ALIENS (1986) Breakdown | Easter Eggs, Hidden Details & Things You Missed
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- ALIENS (1986) Breakdown | Easter Eggs, Hidden Details & Things You Missed. In this video, we break down Aliens. We return to dive deeper into the Alien nest to break down all the Easter Eggs, Hidden Details and Things you Missed throughout the Movie. Released in the year 1986 by James Cameron this movie is an all-time classic and really opened up the genre and did things we had never seen before in a film, the Alien Queen the Marines and some outstanding visual effects for the era, this movie really helped to change the Sci-Fi genre.
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Ok, so I think that Aliens is probably up there on the Mount Rushmore of the best sequels ever made. Though this leans far more into being an action movie than the prior entry, it feels like an evolution of what came before, and it naturally builds on character arcs, the xenomorphs backstory, and everything that made that first film a masterpiece. Throughout this video, we're going to be breaking down the movie and going over the themes, hidden details, easter eggs, and other things you may have missed.Now, whereas Ridley Scott said that he actually preferred the original version of the film, James Cameron has said that the Aliens director's cut is his preferred version of the film. Cameron described it as 40 miles of bad road, saying this is a longer and more intense journey through hell.This is the version I'm going to be reviewing for this movie, and if you haven't seen it then I definitely recommend that you watch it over the theatrical version. Aliens is a far faster and more intense story than its predecessor, which is even clearly shown by the title reveal, which happens way quicker than it did in the prior movie.Now, the story itself features the archetypes of Joseph Campbell's "hero's journey," and in case you're unaware of this, it basically provides an outline for a typical hero character. This starts off with a call to action, which is Ripley being asked to go back to LV-426; we then have a refusal like what we see in the film; the aid and mentor can initially be seen as Carter Burker; and then from here we cross the threshold when going to the planet. New allies and enemies are made in the marines and Newt before we get an ordeal in which they discover the xenomorphs. From here, we have the death of the mentor, the battle with the brother, who could both represent Burke, and so on and so forth..
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Did you misspeak when you said the first movie was action and the second movie was psychological? Because there is no question the first movie is all suspense and the second is all action. I am very curious.
No, not Alien 3, nooooooo.... It's awful.
The director says they prefer the… (checks notes)… directors cut. Yeah, i think you can take that as a given. I want to see the director who says they don’t prefer their version. Even if they didn’t legitimately prefer their version, why would they ever say that publicly?!
Oh no, you poor soul! I'll go watch so you won't have had to torture yourself like that in vain.
This and the first film make me think of your heavily they influenced halo
RIP Bill Paxton. Some of the greatest lines in sci-fi.
Shame. Didn't knew he had passed. Talented actor.
No way man! Were fuckin dead man!
Aliens is right up there with True Lies & Weird Science two of Bill Paxton's best films
@@lhart99 Twister and Titanic. It's gone green...
Aliens is a breed apart in nerd sci-fi. Not only great lines from Bill Paxton, but just lines in general. "In the pipe, 5 by 5' Anyone who has ever played Starcraft knows that line. His soliloquy about nukes, knives and sharp sticks is another reminder. Such an awesome film in all aspects. They mostly come at night. Mostly.
This and terminator 2, two of the best sequels ever. 80s & 90s was the golden age of sci-fi.
And now most sci-fi feels lazy and too cgi-heavy :/
@@alexp601 yep, mostly iterative with little to no imagination on display.
@@alexp601 i agree....relying on spectacle instead of story
I watched Terminator 2 daily for weeks while going through a bad bout of depression back in the 90’s. Oddly I also enjoyed Superman 2 the same way.
Also Godfather part 2 and Mad Max 2.
Gorman redeemed himself by going back for Vasquez. He could have easily escaped with Risley and Hicks, but instead ran to her aid knowing it would probably cost him his life. “You always were an asshole, Gorman” was high praise from Vasquez. I love the camaraderie.
Gorman’s character redemption. One of the best done on screen.
I liked his character because he wasn't a bad guy or a coward, just really inexperienced and not a good leader. After he apologizes to Ripley, he jumps right into action with the rest.
I think this is one of the reasons the film works so well - the antagonists are realistic. In later installments they are just evil pricks. But in this one, the commission that demotes Ripley seem like real people you would meet in a corporation. Burke is evil - but it is not like he is a devil incarnate, he is just extremely greedy and potentially sociopathic. But Gorman is an antagonist that isn’t evil either, he is just inexperienced but his heart is actually in the right place. When he wakes up he apologizes but also defers to Ripley’s leadership.
Vasquez was always my favorite character next to Hicks
Yeah, I love how even a supporting character like him had a redemption arc. He went from over confident, smug Lt. who thought he knew what was what.....to standing down and allowing Ripley,who was an advisor and an enlisted E-4 ,Hicks to take the lead, even though he had rank and was the only officer deployed. He backed everyone up in the last attack(dropped the ball again by allowing Burke to escape and lock the door. Nobody's perfect.lol) to going back for Vazquez. Vazquez calling him an asshole was her letting him know in their final moment that she had forgiven him....and they locked hands....and gone! His arc showed that Lt.Gorman was simply like many inexperienced officers throughout history and froze at a key moment. He panicked,which is human.....he learned from his mistake and his conscience made him correct his character flaws. He wasn't an evil person or true villain,like Carter Burke! What films made recently have developed their supporting characters the way this movie did?
Watching this as a 10 year old for the first time in 1989 literally made my jaw drop! As a 43 year old now, I still watch it every now and then and it is probably my favourite film of all time
sadly I watched the special edition version on VHS first when it came out for my 13th birthday party with my mates, then could never find it again for years and only had the theatrical release ever on tv in the UK and in shops, it blows my mind that then cut so much out, but i guess theatre time constraints?
My dad took me to see it in theaters when I was 15 in 1986. It was insane on the big screen.
Yes, it’s definitely in my top 5, but the Directors cut!
It's definitely in my top 10 favorite of all time. That list includes terminator 2, fight club, no country for old men, hell or high water, the first alien and a couple more.
How were you 43 11 months ago? You're math doesn't track!
i can't hear "why dont ya put her in charge?" without laughing. he really had most of the best lines in that movie
"He's dead...you're dog meat pal"
Bill Paxton really MADE that movie! All performances were strong but Paxton deserved (but did not get) an Academy Award for his performance!
Bill mocks himself in the commentary track right at that point in the movie.
it's one of the best lines in movie history
@@CountingHouse yah, that one is great haha, always makes me grin :D
Ripley's little head tilt, and the change of her facial expression from scared to "kill mode" before she opens fire in the egg laying room is so awesome.
i think its coincidence, but it mimics the movement of the queen.
oh you want some of this!
That's one of the many reasons why Sigourney was nominated for an AA.
@@SerginhoPMoura She really should have won, but the Academy is notoriously snobby against horror and scifi.
I could totally see that as b-roll like she was getting ready for her take and they just thought it was so awesome they kept it.
Cameron's portrayal of marines as having a wide range of personalities actually humanized them and made them more relatable. Had he portrayed them all as Rambo, this would have been the umpteenth movie doing that exact thing. I also kind of think he didn't really mean it when he said that he would have made them look more heroic had he had another chance; I just think he was trying to avoid being labeled "anti armed forces".
unfortunately this movie was the genesis of countless space-marine video games that did exactly what you describe
On a sad note, I saw the actor who played Apone, Al Mathews in an interview several years back, and he had somewhat advanced dementia. It was heartbreaking, because he was probably my #1 favorite actor in the film.
@@DoctorMangler he died several years ago. interesting career, he was an actual marine in vietnam
@@DoctorMangler That's equal parts sad, irrelevant, and weird. In that order.
@@aaizner847 Actually it's exactly relevant, and you're just a little sniveling pissant.
I was a paratrooper, stationed at Fort Bragg in 1986. When I saw it the theater was packed with paratroopers, and we were very vocal and rambunctious in our appreciation for this movie!
Several years later I read the novelization of Aliens (by Alan Dean Foster) [based upon the full script aka the "director's cut"]; just after reading the book A Bridge Too Far (by Cornelius Ryan) about Operation Market Garden in 1944, the largest deployment of paratroopers in history.
I noticed that the names of All of the Marines are shared by historical Paratroopers who participated in Operation Market Garden!
Perhaps it is a coincidence, but it is common to use a literature source to come up with names of secondary characters.
Lieutenant Colonel John Frost was in command of the British Paratroopers at Arhem Bridge. Brigadier Hicks was in command of the British Glider Brigade (or one of the Paratrooper Brigades), there was a Hudson in the 82nd Airborne, a Gorman too. Wierzabowski was in the Polish Paratrooper Brigade, etc.
Several of the names are quite prominent, others very obscure.
Your point is that common last names were also in the 82nd?
@@theengine US 82nd Airborne Division, possibly the 101st Airborne too, definitely the British Paras: Frost, Hicks, and Wierzabowski in the Polish Paratrooper Brigade; at least one German: Dietrich.
Cheers 🍻
Was there a Spunkmeyer??? How about an Apone???
Thats such a good detail. Thank you
Well done, Airborne!
AAtW!
Al Matthews, who plays Apone, was actually a decorated U.S. Marine in Vietnam. He actually helped trained the other actors in their tactical movements to look more realistic to Marines tactics.
👍 Cool factoid I can annoy friends with upon rewatching.
He was the first Dark Green Marine in the 1st Marine Division in Vietnam to be meritoriously promoted to the rank of sergeant. Semper fi, Sgt. Matthews!!! 🦅🌎⚓️
Damn that’s awesome
@@theelder4797hey fun fact, the definition of factoid is “an item of unreliable information that is reported and repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact” -description literally taken from google’s dictionary feature
I always wonder if the "look into my eye" was ad libbed because it was a common phrase in the marines "look into my eyes and tell me if you see any concern"
This is my all time favourite action sci-fi film ever. Think I've watched it more than any other film since I was 8.
Yeah it’s a complete banger, Cameron constantly changing Sci-Fi
Probably the same with me with being my most watched movie of all time
Same here. Best action movie ever, according to me.
Same for me. Accidently watched it on tv when I was 6. Nightmare fuel.
Great movie
I think Alien and Aliens are both perfect movies, but for different reasons. That's why it's really hard for many people, including myself, to decide which one is "better." You can't really judge them by the same metric, but when you look at each one individually, they both end up being rated perfect. Just my two cents.
Same here. It's like apples and oranges with me. Both different flavors but great nonetheless.
They really Are, 2 different animals, which are both perfect films I think also. Too bad Alien 3 is such a disappointer really.. What I hate about A3 is the depressing beginning... Ripley has to be the most tragic of Any heroine that I can think of. The few moments of Any happiness that she experiences in the movies are with Newt, which is a VERY short time. 😞
@@meloralovesdarkness2495 Alien 3 had some cool ideas, but it was executed so badly.
@@meloralovesdarkness2495 I would have been happy if they let the ending of Aliens complete the Ripley arc and they explored a different aspect of the Alien lore.
And 3 was incredible as well. The premise and the characters. Ending was a bit weird with the Bishop-like character. Other than that - near perfect.
I think we all need to take a moment to express our deepest gratitude for Jennifer Lawrence breaking through the glass ceiling and becoming the very first lead female role in an action movie which paved the way for movies like Aliens...
😜
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lets not forget her portrayal of domestic violence (she beat her bloke in Passengers) and rape (she raped her victim in red sparrow)
I don't get the joke sorry.... Did somebody mistakenly say Jennifer Lawrence had the first female action role?
@@MRBJT51 yes... Jennifer Lawrence said it...
Another great thing about this movie is THERE ARE NO WEAK ACTORS - not a single performance was weak - the minimum bar for all the performances was extremely high - Cameron extracted amazing performances from everyone - Bill Paxton deserved an academy award for this film his portrayal of a panicky blustery space marine REALLY MADE the movie and provided all the necessary humor!!
defo
Disagree. Newt.
Yep, all of the characters in Aliens have their own unique charisma and all of them are remembered. Who remembers any of Prometheus' irrelevant characters?
no weak actors, except Sigourney Weaver, who seems to equate having a uterus is better than having a penis. Both are required to proliferate. GG metoo weaver.
@@dawn8542 child actors dont count. its so rare that they have genuine talent so young. she didnt do BADLY tho... just not amazing.
I saw Aliens before I saw Alien. With the descriptive dialogue and references to the previous movie, I was able to mentally visualize what had happened. Several years later I was finally able to see the original, and it was pretty close to what I imagined had happened. Just another example of how much of a good director/story-teller James Cameron is.
Pretty sure I did the same thing!
Yup, me too!
So did I!
Was. Been a while since he's made a good film.
Bill Paxton was an absolute legend in this film. I miss him.
He had the best lines and his delivery was so uniquely perfect
@@deepbluesky6546 There's not a summer that I don't say his line, with his inflection "yeah man, but it's a dry heat"
@@ValEGwangi hahaha
Regarding the suggestion that the marines have come across the Xenomorphs before; I've always understood this to be that they have battled OTHER alien lifeforms before and usually had a pretty easy time of it. "Xenomorph" is just a general term meaning "Foreign Shaped", and not these aliens in particular.
Yeah, I thought that was commonly understood. Xenomorph is just a fancy word for 'alien,' like a scientific Latin name.
@@charlieross4674 Greek, not Latin.
Yea that was always my take too .
Terminology that resulted in " bug hunt " reply and a disappointed mood for the marines.
RE "bug hunt": See the book, "Starship Troopers" by Robert Heinlein.
Hicks sleeping during the drop ship sequence is actually a reference to marines being able to sleep even while riding in the most uncomfortable and rough moving transports. This got a huge laugh when I saw it in the theatre while in the Marine Corps in 86. This was an excellent video.
I rides motorcycle, riding as a passenger in any other vehicle I'm out like a light
I always thought it was because he lost consciousness because of the G-force effect but the sleeping part is more accurate, since he's a marine and was most likely trained to not faint in this kind of situation.
It's also shown in direct contrast to Lt Gorman being tensed up because it's only his second combat drop. The experienced corporal vs the green JO, whose lack of real combat experience leads to poor decision making (all done remotely, to boot), which results in a massacre. It's only after he's knocked out and the cool-headed corporal takes over that they get at least some sort of plan going.
Sigourney Weaver completely leads this film marvelously.. she rightly deserved her Academy Award nomination for, this now, iconic role. Everybody was just so good here, too that's what's crazy about it. The entire cast played their roles beautifully and yet, hers stands out the most..she _is_ Ellen Ripley.
THERE IS NO ELLEN, ONLY ZUUL
Who did she lose to?
@@supadupa6891 Marlee Matlin. "Children of a Lesser God"
@@VaderPopsVicodin10 woooow
She sadly in real life is as woke and anti gun as they come...
Aliens isn’t just one of the best sequels of all time, it’s one of the best action movies of all time. I have loved Aliens since the first time I saw it when I was ten. Just a phenomenal movie.
💪👍🔥💯
It’s one of the best films across all genres of all time
Yep, same here but I saw Alien at that age first, then Aliens a few years later and it was absolutely fantastic, so much of it looked absolutely real, from the drop ship to the tank, to the robo lifter Ripley was running at the end. I still watch these two films regularly. Cheers!
I know right!? Aliens is superb, one of the finest examples of film-making ever created. WHAT HAPPENED TO MOVIES LIKE THIS???
I also saw it in downtown Kansas City theater. Everyone screamed when the egg popped at the beginning lol
The Special Edition of Aliens is the perfect film. 40 years later this film holds right up.
And Ripley's journey from Alien and into Aliens is just one of the great all time character arcs, and she's one of the best written characters ever.
A little detail a lot of people may have missed, in the scene when the marines first enter the Xenomorph nest, and Apone tells them to switch to infrared, you see the part when the character Dietrich, who has her infrared visor on, just looks directly at a hidden Xeno. She even states, “Maybe they don’t show up on infrared at all.” before looking away from the Xeno before it grabs her. This little detail was a crucial moment to use in the later Alien vs. Predator films, explaining why the Predators couldn’t initially see the Xenos without changing their visors to a different spectrum.
I just love that shot and the reveal of that xenomorph in the wall behind her. I think most viewers realize it before it starts moving, already being familiar with their appearance.. but it just looks so great blended in there and to your point, she looks right at it before turning back around. Another piece of evidence that the "xenomorphs in Aliens are so dumb compared to the original" argument is moot.
One thing I loved about Aliens the first time I saw it, was the way the marines changed over time. They were introduced as absolute clowns and probable xenomorph fodder, shallow and the type you wouldn't really be upset about if they died. But they very quickly demonstrate that they are real people underneath all the bravado, and that while they may be terrified of the situation they've found themselves in, they're capable of adapting quickly and fighting bravely.
I was sad Apone died so early, but we had Vasquez and "Micheal Been"
Not introduced as clowns. Confidence to the point of arrogance.
Yep, HORRIBLE writers in the 80s. We NEVER learn the important things, things that define WHO people are, like they do today. Who do the Marines have sm3x with??? What's in their Marine jeans? A twig and berries, or an Arby's roast beef? Or NEITHER, like a true non-binary? Or BOTH, like a truly progressive Bud Light drinker?
And who do they rub that crotchRot up against?? And what COLOR is theirs, the MOST important feature and identity of ANY person?!
The only thing we learned that is important was BEHIND the scenes, when we found out that LatinX womXn was actually a HU-WHYTE womXn! This made me cry, and after that, it made me color with my non-hu-whyte Crayons, and after that, I IMMEDIATELY began cancelling this fake, cultural AND skin appropriating LatinX womXn on X. Hopefully the evil African American Elon Musk and his child, X, will lose everything and then get deleted by my loving, peace loving, life loving androgynous allies and comrades. 🌈
@@christophersmith4897Agreed, but I think the OP may have meant something more like class clowns, which could easily apply to at least 3 of the Marines.
@@kingtonsiljockey528Poor Michael Has Been - he never made it to top A list actor, and IMO he's just as competent as the rest of those who did, and way better than the ones who remained at B- their whole careers.
What I always appreciated about the film is that the special effects were done in such a way that they maintain believability even well into the modern day of CGI. With the exception of a limited few scenes, the viewer is left thinking "how did they make it look so real?!" This remains one of my favorite films of all time.
The only real rough looking part is the drop ship entering the atmosphere, you can just tell it was against a green screen. Everything else is hard to notice unless you're looking for it
And how many 300+ million dollar movies that have been made in the past 10 years will look Fukking AWFUL in a decade, and EMBARRASSING when compared to a then 40+ year old movie.
@@osets2117The electrical storm at the end is pretty rough, too.
@@theelder4797 two things that a simple touch up to the film could fix easily (not saying they should though)
@@osets2117 I've seen some amazing effects touch ups done by amateurs using editing software available to everyone - I agree with you and I am 1000% sure they could make it look near perfect. Depending upon the viewer is where my effects retooling opinion arises: For a modern 20 year old who has never seen Aliens, I would support making the drop and end scenes up to date with the best modern abilities, mainly because that end scene really rips me from suspension of disbelief, and I think that would have a big effect on the emotional immersion on the young, modern viewer.
One super nerdy fact: the two smart guns of Vasquez and Drake consisted mainly of the vest and arm of the Steadicam, a stabilizing device for cameras which were actually also used in Aliens. But the interesting fact was, that those two Steadicams we see in Aliens belonged to Steadicam operator John Ward (RIP) who rented them out to the production and couldn`t work on the movie himself because he was busy filming...Full Metal Jacket :-D John Ward, btw, worked on movies like Robin Hood (with Costner), Fifth Element etc., one of the two Steadicams from Aliens is still in use by an american Steadicam operator.
34:21 Good god, almost 40 years later this scene is still so badass it gives me chills. Not just the scene itself, but the sound track absolutely MAKES the scene. From the rhythmic industrial hammer-like clanking as the structure collapses around them, crescendoing to the adrenaline racing thumping horns and snare drums as Bishop "floors it", making the ship itself heroic as it protects the protagonists from the plumes of flame engulfing it, its engines revving at full blast just barely keeping it ahead of the destruction, and then it all just ends abruptly and goes silent as the nuclear blast goes off. This movie was an absolute masterpiece.
You know when a movie made that long ago stands up today, it's a masterpiece. (40 years? Jeebus.)
So the song here is actually strongly based on Gustav Holst's Mars movement in his orchestral suite The Planets. Horner was definitely inspired by this, which was written in 1914 and played in full in 1918. For that matter, so was John Williams for Star Wars. Also Black Sabbath's main riff is right out of the same movement. That one piece has influenced cinema enormously. Jupiter has a lot of musical history that proceeds from it as well.
The head tilt and facial expression Ripley has when an egg opens just as her and Newt are leaving the Queens Brood Chamber like “oh, you B I T C H!” And almost like, “really? We had a deal.” Then absolutely roasts everything... hands down, my favorite moment in the whole franchise.
my favorite scene too. bad ass level 1000!
But I don't think the Queen opened the egg. They just kinda do their own thing
The way I see it, since so many of these eggs have caused problems throughout the first two films, it's basically her chance to shut it down for once. I've always read it as "Oh, no you don't."
@@seth8629 The eggs do open on their own even when a Queen isn't around. That's how most people get infected with facehuggers in places, where a Queen left a lot of eggs, but isn't around anymore. But there's one thing you might not know (or simply forgotten) about the Queen. She can still influence them through pheromones. It's also how she can control her drones, lead them to places, guide them around the nest, make them do, whatever she wants apart from their usual duties in the hive, in emergencies, as personal guards and stuff. So she could certainly stop the eggs from opening, if she wanted. Seeing that the egg opened and the Queen let it happen, could be perceived as breaking the "deal" with Ripley.
Ya, I've always interpreted it the same way. It's like she was willing to not torch them in order to escape but once that egg opened that look.on her face was like a moment of clarity like "really? Wtf was I thinking, of course I need to eradicate everything here."
Idk if cryo has been done before this in movies, but the whole idea that Ripley spent her daughter's whole life in a cryo pod, especially that scene where she promised to be home for her 11th birthday absolutely blew me away, and crushed my soul.
Cutting the scene with her daughter has to be one of the biggest mis steps in a film. It provides so much more depth to the story and motivation. I was surprised Cameron allowed it to be cut.
It wasn't really a mis-step because as it was edited, it was decided that Ripley would not be portrayed as having strong regret or emotion over a situation she couldn't change. They decided to make it something she would briefly consider, then realize it was no use to try to connect to someone she never knew as an adult. It was too sticky of a plot point to work in a more action based movie. I wish I knew which edition with which commentary I heard that in, but I'm fairly certain one of the writers said it, or it was a writer that Cameron was quoting as his words better explained the decision. Sorry about that.
@@bigguy7353 That makes sense for a cinema release and trying not to be too wishy-washy with the action theme. I'm glad they added it to the director's cut though, because it really brings home the fact that, to Ripley, it's only been a matter of weeks or maybe months since she last saw her 10 year old daughter. She's only out of hyper-sleep for a day in the first movie and then maybe one or two days before she finds out she's been gone for 57 years. Add to that whatever time she spent working on the Nostromo prior to the first movie. So that feeling of regret would still be strong.
It was kind of heartbreaking for me when I realised Ripley's relative timeline from the start of the first to the end of the second movie is only a week or two? Maybe up to a month since I don't think there's any specifics on how long she was working the power loaders before they lose contact with LV-426.
Probably another example of Cameron's preference to axe entire subplots if the movie is running long (remember, action movies were generally shorter back then than they are now), rather than picking away at individual scenes until they become pointless.
He did it in The Abyss too for example by axing the cold war surface tension scenes/big wave sequence, and also much of the husband/wife bickering (to the point that you don't even know why Ed Harris goes through most of the movie with one of his hands dyed blue... lol)
@@pcppbadminton There are some stated times that can give an idea of how long events took during the film. But there is also a lot of room left for assumptions.
It is not mentioned how long Ripley spent recovering in the hospital so an assumption of 2 or 3 days could be made.
It is established that Burke is the one who sent the message instructing the colony to find the alien derelict, something he couldn't have done before Ripley provided her testimony.
The colony administrator states that it takes 2 weeks to recieve a reply to any messages sent to Earth so assuming Burke sent the message on the same day, it would have been read by the administrator one week after Ripleys' testimony.
It isn't stated how long it took the surveyers to find the derelict but it can be assumed that it was on the other side of the moon given that the colony had been there for years and noone noticed it. So a few days, maybe a week to find it?
With normal communication traffic coming in from the colony, noone on Earth would have suspected what would be happening over the next few hours and days. It is later stated that they had lost contact with the colony as opposed to recieving a distress call.
Burke would have expected an update around 3 weeks after sending his message and when none came he would have made the request to investigate. In order to keep his true intentions secret, he would have had to wait at least another week in case the loss of communication was a technical problem.
It isn't stated how much time passed between Ripley being told of the communication failure and her deciding to go investigate so I'll assume a couple more nightmares.
The Sulaco was probably dispatched the next day given the fairly small force being sent, arriving at LV-426 17 days later. The 17 days is stated by Hicks as being how long help would take to arrive after being declared overdue.
It isn't stated how long the events at Hadleys Hope last but could be assumed as one maybe two days so the survivors are back on the Sulaco and in hypersleep by day 19 of the mission.
I think it's safe to say that Aliens takes place over roughly 52 days at the longest, 34 days if Burke starts the investigation immediately after not recieving his expected update and Ripley only spends one day in the hospital and one day making the decision to go.
It also sort of showed a little more of Burke's character, the cut with the scene is much better.
I think cutting the sentry guns for the theatrical release was a huge mistake. They completely explained why so few xenos ultimately penetrated ops. And why there were virtually none left when Ripley infiltrated the hive at the end.
There was quite a few xenos in ops though. Hudson and Vasquez between them must have taken out 20.
@5wheels178 true, but the original xeno population was probably at least 100 (probably more) with 157 colonists to impregnate (Newt didn't, that's why I subtracted one from the population). This is taking into account some colonists likely dying in combat with the xenomorphs.
The main reason there aren’t as many is because the hive is in the atmospheric processor, which Ripley flies to aboard the dropship, so she gets a head start on all the xenos still making their way back to the hive from Hadley’s hope.
from all deleted scenes in all movies, is this scene best. i dont understand, why this storyline with automatic killing machine was cut.
Yeah, the robot sentries were another "Scare the Shit out of the Audience" effect like the scanners or the supposed safety of high-firepower guns! The marine platoon hears the sentries firing on aliens in the hallway and monitors them and you think "Okay this is it they're winning" until the sentries use up 400 ROUNDS OF AMMUNICATION AND RUN DRY !!!
re: The portrayal of the Marines. I had just finished a 4-year enlistment in the Corps when this movie came out. The portrayal was pretty damned spot-on. There were blowhards like Hudson. There were ice-cold badasses like Hicks. There were professional lifers like Apone. There were hard-chargers like Vasquez and Drake. Guys just trying to get the job done like Frost. Every Marine in the movie reminded me of somebody I knew. Cameron has nothing to apologize for.
He probably meant that he apologized for interviews where he basically said all of the enlisted were horrible humans, instead of having issues with the people who say back in the Pentagon being those men killed. Kind of like how the anti war movement didn't actually do anything but leave thousands of Marines and Navymen homeless after Vietnam
@@Matt_History i thought the anti war movement was about preventing guys from dying overseas, and either bringing them home or preventing them from being deployed.
The responsibility for following through with caring for vets is and was the responsibility of veterans affairs/the army, isnt it? Isnt that still the issue, that those who run these operations arent providing the resources for the people they are ensuring will need them?
What a surprise. Marines are diverse like any other group. It’s not that unusual.
One of my favorite moments is the Newt yawn. When the remaining people gather to make a plan on how to defend themselves, there’s a cut to Newt watching and she yawns. “Well, I’ve never seen this plan before.”
One of the things I always appreciate with this movie is how Collette turns around to see the alien, and she doesn't do the cliche scream (not even cliche really, quite understandable lol), instead she pulls out her sidearm and fires.
Well she attempts to pull out her sidearm anyway
@@BLAlley you're posting this because the Pentagon in 2003 , trying to sell a war to the world and the American created a pure fiction cover story about Jessica Lynch to make people like you happy so that you would support the war. Copy. "glamour I'm Jessica Lynch and here's my real story". and "the guardian the truth about Jessica Iraq" One at a time and paste them into a search engine. There was nothing bad ass about Jessica Lynch letting herself be discovered by the rescue mission. Everything you've heard about Jessica Lynch was a made-up cover story because they wanted women to support the war. And just in general have a positive warm sounding war story for the media.
Back when a well written character CAN be a strong woman, instead of modern trash where they have to make men look worse to prop them up, and those VVomen are just pretending to be men, all the way down to getting the girl into bed.
@@theelder4797 But let's be honest: Most men in the movie aren't really portrayed as capable. At least not when you take their job description into account.
The realism and attention to detail in this movie are beyond belief! I remember when they were de-orbiting from the mother ship, and the pilot, corporal ferro (Collette Hiller) says, "We're in the box, 5 by 5". I learned later as a systems engineer for Iridium that when satellites are in orbit the flight control system tracks a "virtual" orbital box (like staying within the ductwork of a furnace) and 5m x 5m is not abnormally small for a high-precision orbital (or de-orbiting) box! Bravo !!
And I always thought "five by five" was the optimal response to "how do you hear me?". There's a Wikipedia page on Signal strength and readability report.
Two small details I really like: One is when Burke and Gorman visit Ripley. Ripley pours two cups of coffee for them and Gorman simply holds his and then puts it down on the table while Burke helps himself to the kitchen to add creamer on his. Two small character details just to show you their personalities. The other one is when Ripley and Newt stumble into the Alien Queen. Ripley tilts her head before burning up the eggs, and later the Alien Queen does the same head tilt when she sees the other elevator open before her and uses it to follow Ripley and Newt.
Actually, I always thought that the queen's head tilt encountering the dual elevators was like a dog tilting its head trying to understand something. There is another scene where the queen moves its head like a dog moving aggressively with its ears back. That's what I saw anyway.
It made Gorman already look a little tense or stiff in this situation. Like he came there for a purpose and can't quickly switch to casual.
If you want to see him again in the Alien universe go play Alien: Isolation where he's Marshal Waits. ;-)
Her "head tilting" expression, is her "Killing mode" turned on.
3 points I want to make...
Ripley didn't really go back for Jonesy. She panicked and dropped him when she saw the alien was blocking her path to the shuttle. After failing to abort the self-destruct sequence, she had no choice but to go back and happened to find Jonesy where she had left him. She obviously cared enough for the cat to make sure he wasn't left behind, but it's not comprable to saving Newt from the hive.
The queen didn't back out of the negotiation. The egg was simply triggered by the presence of a potential host, which was unfortunate for all aliens involved.
That sound at end of the credits is not of an egg opening up, but of a facehugger skittering across the floor. Listen to it in stereo and you can hear it move from one side of the screen to the other.
Overall I enjoyed the video!
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i always thought that the Queen must have known it needed to save itself there. SO i would like to believe the Queen would have let them escape (it wouldn't know about the impending thermo nuke explosion ).
This movie is one of my all time favorites! This film and Predator forever molded my fascination of sci-fi films/shows.
For me my fav scene/detail has always been the non-verbal communication between the 2 mom's when Ripley runs in to the sea of eggs. The "Let us go or I burn your shit to the ground" shot over the port bow with the flamethrower was absolutely brialliant!
Bill Paxton is perfect in this movie. It's crazy that anyone would have imagined his portrayal to be to be disrespectful to the military. His whole character arc starts with being a short timer (a very real thing in the military) and end with being a grade A bad-ass when it comes down to the line and sacrificing himself. Hudson is the most relatable character in the movie, and that's largely due to Bill Paxton's portrayal.
I think, the creative triumph of Aliens is that despite swapping the genre, it still feels like an authentic continuation of the narrative established in the first movie. Mostly because it is so faithful in tone and theme. The fact that Aliens is more action oriented almost feels like a mere technicality, that doesn't really take away from the feel of it all. That is also, why you easily could watch these movies back to back and be excused to believe, that the entire storyline was pre-planned just like this from the get go. It is just so seamless.
The third part has some good ideas at it's core and atmospherically recreates many of the strengths of the first two movies. And I always felt that a self contained prison was actually a clever idea for the setting. But the troubled production and wonky ass CGI definetly brought the 3rd part down a fair notch. Even though, I liked it as a cannonic ending.
Everything that came after that though, I could happily do without. Ressurection was just plain stupid and Prometheus as well as Covenenant feel very pretentious. They also give explanations that do more harm than good, leaning heavily on deus ex machina nonsense, which just feels very lazy and underwhelming.
I actually liked Resurrection more than Alien 3, lol.
But really I would only ever suggest someone watch the first 2 and stop.
@planescaped I actually like Alien 4 till the last act, and even that, while pretty bad, can be explained to some extent.
That being said Alien (1) and Aliens (2) are totally different league.
Fun little fact. When Hudson says that Vasquez thought they said illegal alien and signed up, this is in reference to her audition for the role. The actress that played Vasquez knew she was auditioning for a role in the movie "Aliens", but she didn't know what it was about. She thought it was about illegal aliens crossing the border, so she showed up to the audition in a dress, thinking she was going to audition to be a Mexican woman. Kinda funny, considering the type of person Vasquez is in the movie.
The actress is a pale ginger white woman irl
Kinda tough to buy that considering she had to have been told by her agent what she'd be auditioning for prior to going in.
No fucking way lol
@integral "Since Goldstein didn't have an agent, that was all the information that she had to go on. While she had seen the film "Alien," she did not know that they were doing a sequel, so she figured that it was for a film about immigration [...] So she showed up at the audition wearing "high heels and lots of makeup, and I had waist-length hair." -cbr
Another fun fact she played John Conner's Foster mom in Terminator 2 and she was the mom putting her kids to bed when the ship was sinking in Titanic
Ripley going back for Jones in Alien and then doing the same thing for Newt in aliens has always seem, to me at least, to be a reference to the power and strength of the maternal instinct. Just like how a mother bear will put herself into tremendous danger and take on anything that stands between her and her offspring Ripley has the same response to those she feels that same connection to. She wasn't able to do this for her biological daughter and so that drive is even stronger as she has a need to atone for her failure as a mother. I know a few people who thought going back for Newt was stupid and added nothing to the film but in doing so and confronting the queen we found the queen had the same response, almost like it is universal. So we were left in a mexican stand-off between two mother bears, both of which were willing to do whatever it takes to protect their young. When they weren't able to do this they wrought vengeance upon the one who stood in their way.
Except Ripley was not written as a woman in the first film.
Well said EnjoymentBoy!
And then in Alien 3 she was the mother of an Alien queen inside her.
You need to see Breakfast at Tiffany's...
Or just an example of someone doing the right thing
She isn’t “overly masculine.” She’s a badass marine.
not “overly”, “overTly”- very different words. “Badass Marine” is very traditionally an *overtly masculine* archetype
Just a word on the auto-loader that I think you may have missed. The Power Loader in the film was a full-scale prop constructed around stuntman John Lees, who was concealed inside, immediately behind Sigourney Weaver. Constructed from aluminium, fiberglass and PVC plastic, the finished machine weighed around 600 lbs and included hidden counterweights disguised as machine components to help balance it. Even so, owing to the suit's weight and bulk, it had to be either suspended from wires (concealed within the radio antennae on the suit's shoulders) or mounted on a counterbalanced crane for filming. It featured electrically operated claws, although the various hydraulic systems on the arms and legs were cosmetic only. The tandem design allowed Sigourney Weaver to be in the operator's seat at all times, while Lees controlled the suit from within.
sounds like you may of worked on it?, John Richardsons team in the UK made it, alot of it was lightweight vac forms. There is a funny story about a balloon..
@@multirevelator No, I didn't work on it (wish I did!), but I have a fascination for practical effects, and this movie was full of them! I have quite a few books on Alien, Aliens and H.R.Giger.
With modern computers and balance controls, a thing like this could probably be build in real. But its not an efficient design to move cargo around.
I've read that the Power Loader was so convincing that construction companies contacted the studio to find out where they'd gotten them!
@@Otokichi786 Well, I did not know that. However, I'm not surprised!
I didn't realize the post credit scene was actually just an audio clip of an egg hatching. That is really understated awesomeness... very impressive, and forward thinking.
Ha an easter Egg.....do you think it's the facehugger from A³?
I have seen this film scores of times and if it weren't for your comment, I would not have known about an end credit scene. Thank-you
Post credit stuff has been done for decades, even before Alien.
@@w4tkn It wasn't a scene, so..... 🤷♂️
Wait a minute…what? There’s a post credit scene?!?! On my top 5 fave movie of all time that I’ve watched dozens and dozens of times? That ain’t possible
You missed out how Hudson has a small character ark of from being a cocky coward to going down standing his ground and taking out a bunch of aliens like a boss in the end.
Love your videos
Yeah he arked the most - from show off to coward to self sacrificing hero. Hicks is the best soldier after Apone but Hudson safes the day (at least for the next 5 seconds)
Also the fact that it's said that Bill Paxton was worried people would hate Hudson and was floored that he was so many peoples' favourite character (including me). "Oh you want some of this? F&*K YOU!" Brilliant.
As much as this is a great arc, it's not an easter egg or a hidden detail. We all got it. That's why we love his character so much. This vid is about stuff that we may have missed. I don't think many of us missed this though!
Hicks is the Scarecrow. Bishop is the Tin Man. Hudson is the Cowardly Lion.
Much like the Cowardly Lion, Hudson starts with a false bravado. He gets exposed as a coward, only to eventually find his courage.
Hicks is called a grunt, but helps develop the plan to survive. He comes up with the idea to find Newt with the tracker.
Bishop is stoic and aloof. But in the end he risks himself to rescue Ripley & Newt when he could havw abandoned them.
@@ericmeckl8760 That's a really cool take.
The fact that we are still so into this movie so much so that we are still talking about it nearly 40 years later says everything.
Love this movie. Always will. I don't think we'll get anything of this caliber for a long time.
Top Gun: Maverick belongs as an action classic that rivals even surpasses the original. Mad Max Fury Road is also a banger in that category.
As far as Sci Fi Action Horror goes? . It honestly hasn't been matched yet..
District 9 gets an honorable mention though.. but that's a more intimate and personal film.. with 2 protagonists vs the evil corporation and Merc crew..
Not with woke activists on every movie crew.
@DemiGod_Scrub I think they mean as far as woke activists infecting every writing room, production meeting, idea session and even reviews at this point.
@@bigguy7353 I like how these people insist on having strong independent women in the lead in just about every film as if it never happened before (always at the expense of men who are often portrayed as cowardly, incompetent or just downright evil. Presumably they've never watched Alien/Aliens, Terminator/Terminator 2 or Tomb Raider. It seems Indiana Jones is next for the woke executioners block.
Watching this movie when I was a kid, I was so relieved that they turned down the sheer terror to make room for turning up the action. The xenomorph is the all time scariest plot device of all time, and I love it. Now my daughter has begun collecting the McFarlane toys and when her friends come over I definitely enjoy the initial discomfort they experience when they see alien action figures and Huggy Wuggy stuffies.
I saw that someone made a Covid mask carrier in the detailed likeness of a face hugger. It was awesome!
I remember seeing this the first time in the theater. The main thing I came away with was how I was on the edge of my seat for the final 45 mins of the movie. Cameron was a master at sustaining tension without letting it become tedious.
When I rewatched The Descent I noticed many scenes that are subtle references to the Alien movies. One girl standing under dripping water like Brett, another one crawling through a tight space with the camera pulled in front of her, like Bishop, reaching out and almost managing to grab the arm but she eventually falls down the hole like Newt, the monsters face getting close to the protagonist like in Alien 3 and probably even more...
Great video! it's probably been mentioned already but at 44:00, the reason another elevator comes down is Ripley smashes the elevator call button because she's in such a hurry to leave - just like we all do when waiting for one. Pretty much every action in this film has consequences, which is why it is such a masterpiece still today.
Cheers!
I cannot tell you how absolutely lucky I am to have seen this movie in the theaters when it came out. I was 14, and I must have seen this 8 times in the summer of 86.
Lucky you - I only saw Ghandi once & Spies Like Us twice...
(I know that doesn't relate but it's what I thought ;) )
LET's ROOooCK!!!
1972 babies represent!
I saw this in the cinema and when Ripley is in the power lifter and says to the queen 'get away from her you bitch' The whole cinema cheered.
One of the few good things my dad ever did... he took me to see this. I was 10
Cool I was the same age (child of 72) but in the UK the cinemas were really strict about age limits.
I still watched the film so many times but on VHS
the "longest cigarette" is supposed to indicate that she was sitting there motionless while it just burned.
The one great scene you left out IMO was the scene between Ripley and Newt when Ripley asks her what her dolls (head) thinks. Newt replies :"She doesn't haven't thoughts Ripley, she's just a piece of plastic." Just shows how the reality of what she was going through had made this little girl so practical and aware of the situation.
One of my all time favorites! My dad rented and recorded it on VHS. We used to watch it all the time when I was a kid. I have many great memories associated with this film. ❤
Weaver was nominated for best actress at the Oscars for this role. She should have won.
I remember seeing this at the cinema when it first came out. There was such excitement about it coming and it was the last film I saw with my dad before he died. He observed that the scary thing about Alien is that you don't know where the alien is, and the scary thing about Aliens is that you do know where they are...but there's nothing you can do about it. I still remember the audience reaction when RIpley takes refuge from the explosions and then looks round to find she's surrounded by alien eggs. At that point the air in the cinema became filled with collective gasps and uncomfortable murmuring - and then giggling when everyone realised they were all appreciating how awful a moment it was.
Aliens isn't just one of my favorite sequels, its easily one of my favorite movies of all time, everything they did with this movie was perfect, its truly timeless, no matter how many times i watch the film it never gets old, i actually own multiple versions of the directors cut and i wish so badly that they would release an updated directors cut that includes the rest of the extra scenes not found in the current directors cut. This movie is a masterpiece imo.
20:23 That is mindblowing. That's one of my favorite lines from the movie and to find out it was actually from real life is awesome. That's right up there with a woman telling Winston Churchill "if you were my husband, I'd poison your tea" and he replies "if you were my wife, I'd drink it."
@osmium6832 One of my faves too ! I was at a canal event, some people were doing cosplay, one was a marine from Aliens. To my shame, I didn't recognise the film, but when he told me, I said I love it, my favourite line is when Hudson says Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man? And the guy just finished the line for me ! We both laughed - - -
I first saw this in the balcony section of a very old and cavernous theater a few months before it was closed for renovations. It was a midnight show on a rainy night, and my buddies and I basically had this forlorn balcony section to ourselves. There was audible dripping emanating from dark recesses in the rafters above our heads. Maybe the most intense theater experience of my life.
I was really impressed with the foley soundscape during the power loader fight. After a massive, center of gravity shifting punch, you hear the power loader taking a few baby steps to ensure it and Ripley don't fall over. It really cemented the illusion that it was a huge and powerful machine.
Alien and Aliens are among the greatest movies of all time. It's really a shame they never followed up on them and turned them into a franchise.
Can't get enough of these types of vids on old classics
Thank you
@Heavy Spoilers
Ya really awesome. Have you heard of Roger Aeyer and his breakdowns?
Also Jay Dyer. Her wrote esoteric Hollywood.
Aliens, Terminator & T2, True Lies, Titanic, and the Avatar franchise... what a filmography from Cameron. Would have to say that T2 is my favorite. So groundbreaking. Remember seeing it in the theater, and people were literally gasping at the special effects, and cheering on the action.
Don’t forget The Abyss
Avatar was ass
I don’t think Hudson was a coward he was just afraid. He still saved Nute and still fought hard. He was also hilarious.
When the time to fight came he took care of business he just whined alot during the in between
After the return to the Sulcaco: You forgot the call back to when Bishop reaches for his chest when the tail comes through (Similar to a chest-burster) and Ripley is trying to help him.. But the audience is saying to themselves, "WAIT! Isn't Bishop a robot? How could he have a chest burster inside?" and then the tail of the queen coming through his chest is revealed and he's lifted up and torn in half.
Yes! Exactly
as a kid, I misremembered this as the alien bursting through his chest, rather than what actually happened lol
I was confused upon later viewing when I saw the queen rip him in half
Aliens my All-time favorite movie. Best sequel ever made, best sci-fi story, best acting. Stands the test of time. Thanks for the revisit. I usually watch this movie once a month sometimes more
When Newt calls Ripley "mommy" stills gives me goosebumps. That is brilliant character development.
I think the Hicks mouthing 'where they are' thing was deliberate, like Vasquez always says that and he's just mouthing along. Like Bender in Breakfast Club mouthing "I'm cracking skulls"
R.I.P Bill Paxton
When Ripley confronts Burke about planning to sneak two specimens past quarantine, Ripley says 'I just checked the colony log, dated 6/12/79'. I always thought that the '79' was an Easter egg referring to the year in which Alien was released; 1979.
Love these older movie breakdowns. Could watch for days. Thanks, brother!
I’m 45 years, absolutely love both “Aliens” & “Wrath of Kahn”, seen both of them many times, and can’t believe that I didn’t pick up on the matching scores!!!
I always thought there was a link, I always watch both of these films when they're on, and this has confirmed it for me.
Me too! I completely missed it! Both very serious moments but completely "alien" to each other and that's why the score wasn't apparent.
And there's the bit where Ripley is on the gantry at the end when Bishop is trying to pick them up in the dropship appeared in Die Hard when Al shoots Gruber- it's so weird how there are these little crossovers.
@mattl3729 I'd quite forgotten about that, but I also liken it to Star Trek II, probably because of its slightly more softer orchestral sound?
But yeah, thanks for the reminder on that!
Still one of my favorite movies. Got to meet Lance Henrickeson. Talk about this movie for 10 minutes. He said he got sick off the goop from the final battle, but didn't tell James Cameron cause he didn't wanna loose the pay
I think the only part I could have done without was the restored colony scenes added to the front of the movie. I liked that I was meeting Newt for the first time along with Ripley and the marines.
This is one of the best films ever and Weaver deserved a Oscar. Bill is amazing too RIP. This And T2 Are How To Make Sequel. Cameron is a genius.
Cameron had such talent that I think he could’ve taken a bum off the street and made them into an Oscar winning performance. He truly was a king in his earlier career imo
@@captaincrunch1707 Will love if Cameron came back to direct a new Alien Film.
I think the comments about "bug hunts" were referencing the novel Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein, whom Cameron loved. In the novel the insectoid alien race were referred to as "bugs." He once said he'd read everything Heinlein had written, and Cameron's heroines (Ellen Ripley [Aliens], Sarah Conner [Terminator 1 and 2], Lindsey Brigman (The Abyss), Rose DeWitt Bukater [Titanic], Neytiri and Dr. Augustine [Avatar]) are said to be "Heinlein Women," female characters who are intelligent, brave, capable, and able to take care of themselves in dangerous situations.
Rose is no heroine, merely a survivor as she let Jack die. There was plenty of room on that board for both of them. All the rest you list willingly risked their lives to save others.
So happy to see this comment 😊. After watching Starship Troopers years ago I kind of thought it would be a fun theory if there was a chance of a shared universe. Wouldn’t mind seeing a giant bug vs an alien queen fight.
Ya sure know your HEINLEIN 😊
@@philgreen8101 wrong. Rose in fact rescues Jack from shackles (why is this always overlooked?). It's firmly established that only one could live at the end. Rose went on to grow an expansive family while suffering from PTSD.
@@philgreen8101she's a particular kind of heroine, one who takes advantage of the situation to win in spite of those that lose
I was 12 years old when Alien came out. I went to see it ALONE in the theater. My dad was supposed to pick me up, but he passed out, so I had to walk home by myself in the dark. I was so fuxking scared the entire way and every tiny sound I heard I just knew it was an alien. I hate horror movies but I've loved sci-fi horror my whole life.
I love the Alien and Predator movies so much, and this one was my favorite, and I have seen this dozens of times. This was a great breakdown.
bishop's knife trick also foreshadows his trustworthiness and reliability within asimov's rules of robotics, he allowed himself to be injured to spare hudson
2:44 never caught this before. Riley’s hand looks a lot like a face hugger here. This gives a subconscious hint that she is actually “pregnant” with one of the aliens while sleeping in hyper sleep. Creepy!!!
20:01 Napone immediately sticks a cigar in his mouth. He definitely fell asleep in his pod with the cigar in his hand knowing he’d want it right when he wakes up. Just a little bit of character building that you get in really well written stories.
What about in the beginning sitting with her drooping cigarette along with her curved fingers and knuckle? That immediately occurred to me as facehugger shaped. Brilliant if you think about what must have gone into that in terms of both creative thought and execution.
Dude, the “daughter scene”, the one with Ripley looking at the picture of Amanda as she was old, it’s a shame that one was cut cause Sigourney had some seriously good acting there with being distressed that she missed her daughter’s entire life in what seemed the blink of an eye. Sad it was cut from theatrical.
A newt is an amphibian, not a reptile. Sorry for knit picking but knowledge is key. And I have to say, I absolutely love Alien and Aliens. Both are superb movies in their genres and are a huge part of my childhood cinematic experience. Aliens, in my opinion, is far better of a sequel than T2. I remember that my family had the 1st two alien movies recorded on VHS and other than a little tracking scramble on the screen, they played out just like one long movie and I loved it. I ALWAYS watched them back to back because of this and the experience was nothing short of fantastic when I would pop in the cassette at least once a month.
Cameron built off of the lore, delivered some iconic set pieces and action sequences, and turned the tension up to 11. As a kid who use to play AvP on PC, most of the iconic Alien content is ripped right from Aliens and I love it. The scene with Newt in the water is just a gorgeous shot and could easily be blown up into a wall poster.
They say sequels suck but between Aliens, T2 and Avatar WoW I think we can officially call bs... wait a sec 🤔
Avatar 1 and 2 were trash 😂
I love that you're looking back on the classics Paul.
Cheers to the twins!🍺🍺🍺
Thank you
You mention that Lt Gorman is the only one of the marines to be called by their first name. In the Special Edition, we also learn Hick's first name is Dwayne, as he and Ripley share a small moment just before Ripley goes to rescue Newt. But that got me thinking about the first names of the other marines, and in the list of 12 marine names you show at about 19:40, no less than 10 of them have the same first initial as the actor portraying them. The two that don't follow this pattern are the two we hear the first names of in the film, Hicks.D portrayed by Michael Biehn, and Gorman.S being played by William Hope.
Apone.A -> Al Matthews, Ferro.C -> Colette Hiller, Vasquez.J -> Jenette Goldstein, Drake.M -> Mark Rolston, Spunkmeyer.D -> Daniel Kash, Dierich.C -> Cynthia Dale Scott, Frost.R -> Ricco Ross, Wierzbowski.T -> Trevor Steedman, Crowe.T -> Tip Tipping, Bishop.L -> Lance Henriksen.
One of the best sequels ever made.Super action, the definition of terror and agony, business corruption that tears everything and anything,great adaptation of the brave marines and James Cameron was the proper man for the job.
RIP Bill Paxton. I enjoy this one more than the first though both are classics to me
I saw this in the cinema at Leicester Square back in 1986.
There were screams and gasps as the film really got going.
I remember, when the lights went , everyone had a look of - wow - on their faces.
A truly terrific film which still makes Avatar look like a damp squid.
If only James would get round to making a proper action film again, but with about a million Avatar sequels to go, this seems highly unlikely
Avatar 2, the damp squib....is an awful movie and if you've seen it, you'll know that it is basically aliens in water at various points. I hope you've not missed the various moments that represent the battle between ripley and the queen in the atmospheric processing plant, the moment that Newt fell into the shaft and so on. God, i'll never get that time back.
Aliens was the first one I saw of the franchise. I was 12 or so and it was on late night TV and I was determined to see it. I remember the tense feeling of turning on the family tv at midnight when I should have been in bed and asleep, to cover the light I used my big blanket to cover the screen like a tent and turned the volume nearly all the way down (this was when tvs had knobs) and I got so sucked into it I had forgotten myself and turned up the volume just before the whole place was going up, I can't remember if I woke anyone up but I know I got in trouble for sure. Still even the cut up tv version was amazing
So many iconic moments and quotes in the movie. Amazing film! There was certainly a lot of great action and science fiction movies in the 80's
Ive seen this film probably 60 times, love it to bits. I do prefer it over alien, not taking anything away from the first one, i just love the action and characters in the second. The xenomorphs are just terrifying....they are the only extra terrestrials that have actually given me nightmares.....and thats cool. I love all the little titbits of info youve found too.....like lambert being trans?? I never knew that, or even noticing hicks mimicking vasquez in "where they are" love learning all this new stuff after all this time. Keep up the good work paul
Never realised how much Halo is inspired by this movie with a lot of the scenes with the UNSC ships, the troops and the flood being similar to the Xenomorphs
Especially when you meet the flood for the first time
My dad took me to this in 86. God we had such a good time.
Very awesome breakdown! The length was amazing
Haha cheers
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This is an incredible breakdown. I saw this movie when it first came out on VHS and it completely blew my mind so much so that its my favorite film to this day. There are so many details you can see in the blu-ray or streaming formats as compared to the Extended Version Laser Disc on a CRT monitor. In a way it was even more tense as the scenes played so much darker. Later in life I did finally see the film on both 35mm and a 70mm blowup. It's also hard to imagine now with all the bloated 3 hour plus movies today but back then Cameron had to trim the film down otherwise he would have lost an additional screening at the end of everyday. Many films have tried to replicate the vision of this film and pretty much none have ever surpassed it. I often wonder how is this the same guy who made the Avatar films? Again, brilliant breakdown on one of the best genere films ever made.
The first movie was truly terrifying. Not full of jump scares just great acting and super creepy .
I had the pleasure of watching both Alien and Aliens for the first time as an adult during their initial runs on the silver screen. Alien especially was scary enough as an adult--I'm sure it would have absolutely terrified me as a child. Hell, those damned flying monkeys in The Wizard of Oz were bad enough back then, and Alien is exponentially scarier.
The mention of the arcturians and the fact that it doesn't mather whether are male or female is a reference to a comic written by Dan O'Bannon called The Long Tomorrow. The arcturians are, in the short comic a race of shape shifters. Jean Giraud (Moebius) did the art for those pages as well as the designs for the suits in Alien (1978).
I saw Alien in the cinema when it was first released. I took my mother to see this new science fiction film, because she'd loved Star Wars. When Kane got attacked by the face hugger, she screamed and dropped her ice cream - all over the man in the seat in front of us. She'd had it since the start of the movie and was so engrossed in the story by that time that it had all but melted in the tub. Can you imagine the guy's shock! The Alien face hugger just attacking a member of the crew and you get covered in half melted raspery Ripple - He probably had a near heart attack! He was very understanding though. My Mum was so apologetic and he was "very British" about it - More apologetic and inderstanding than angry. Just one of those moments that I'll always remember.
By the way - I love both of these movies, almost equally, but they let the side down a little with the third one. Though I have warmed to it more over the years. Resurrection, Prometheus and Covenant also have more of that same warming to them on subsequent viewings.
Prometheus was freaking great cinematography. I saw it opening night and had no clue if there would be aliens or not. It had been so long. Fassbender was awesome.
The fact that you remember it was Raspberry Ripple absolutely makes this story!