2023 GMC Canyon vs Chevy Colorado: Can Either of GM's Twin Midsize Trucks BEAT Poor EPA Ratings?
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#GMC #chevy #denver100 - Авто та транспорт
The Denver 100 is a great idea. Looking forward to a Ranger 2.7 and a Taco iForce Max when they become available
Ranger 2.3L turbo 4cyl
Andreas' color is the Colorado Urine. Haha.sorry
@D B - the way the Ranger performs with the 2.3, I’m pretty excited about driving the 2.7. It is a rocket in the F150,,,, just imagine, Eh!! 😊
I’m really interested in the fuel economy of the new Tacoma engines, too! Gonna be a decision point for me
@@WoodrowWoods2007 - that hybrid,,,, big numbers AND it’s likely very efficient.
I consistently get better mpg without using cruise control because cruise control will try to maintain speed at all costs whereas feathering the gas pedal will allow more opportunity for coasting and gradual acceleration.
I have never beat cruise control for mileage and I drove hundreds of thousands of miles as a LEO. You have a very magic touch!! 😂😂 I’m jealous.
Depends on the twitchyness of the cruise control. Modern cruise control is very twitchy and doesn't let the speed drop at all. Even if that means 3mpg
@@HAHA.GoodMeme - like I said elsewhere,,, some will believe what they want.
No doubt. The computer has no ability as to what’s ahead. Doesn’t know how to take advantage of hills. Downshifts way to much to regain speed, Ect. If you can’t due better than a computer you don’t know how to drive or hyper-mile. Truth.
@@fritty9927 - yeah yeah
With the prices of this trucks now, having not cruise control and halogen headlights is stupid!
Halogen is cost efficient for those that go offroading. If you break a light less than half price to replace.
Mr. Truck just keeps hitting Andre with the zingers about his truck
😂😂😂 gotta love Mr truck
My favorite 1 was - My color is probably more aerodynamic than whatever your color is! 😂🤣
The constant cruise control jabs and him telling Andre “Well you ain’t got crap do you” 😵💀
Andres truck sucks
@Robert Flores the similar mpg shows Andre is a good driver or the TB gets better mpg than epa ratings.
Love the name of the Denver 100! Hope you guys make this the new standard for MPG loops.
Yellow truck? Grey Chevy same model
Just picked up my 2023 Colorado Z71 today. Not even broke in yet and I got 21mpg at 73mph for 200+ miles. Yes, I drove over 3hrs to go test drive and buy a truck because that was the closest dealer that actually had one on the lot. I can't wait to see mpg after it breaks in.
I recently went on a 2700 mile trip in my 2022 Silverado and averaged 24.1 MPG. This was mixed driving across the Smokey’s and Appellation mountains. On the way back I averaged 25.2. I have the previous generation 2.7 in my Silverado crew cab 4x4. EPA rated the truck at 18-21 mpg. I’ve never got below 18. Also I calculated fuel economy the same way as TFL. My trip meter is within .2 mpg of my calculator.
*Appalachian
And I hear those hills in the “Appellation” mountains (more gentle hills than anything) are rough!
Great video idea. Can you run a Silverado with the 2.7 on the same loop to see the difference in MPG with a fullsize body but the same engine?
They could throw in a Silverado with a 6.2 and or a 5.3 to compare also…..would be good
And they’d get better fuel economy…
@@dansherwood9851 you think the larger trucks would get better fuel economy with the same engine ?
@@semiauto3148 I do. I currently have a 2018 Denali 1500 with the 6.2 that got 25mpg on the hiway at 65mph. My 2015 Tacoma with the 4.0 6cyl would only get 22, weighing less and the newer 2018-2022 Colorado trucks would routinely only get 22-23mpg with the 6 cyl in them. I would think this new gm 4 cyl turbo with just a few tweaks would be more efficient and easily get 25+mpg. But if my full size truck with a 6.2/8 spd trans gets 25mpg weighing 5500lbs than surely a newer canyon weighing 4500lbs with the same engine and trans should pick up 1-2 mpg. I think GM with the 11:1 cr of the 6.2 and other items is just a more efficient engine and would not have to work hard in a mid size truck, along with a smile when pushing on the go pedal!
@Semi Auto
It would just be interesting to see the difference the extra weight makes.
Yes I like the longer loop, keep'em coming.
Mr. Truck was killing Andre with the cruise control. 😂😂
"Well you ain't got crap, do you?!" - way to put a stamp on it haha
Now that is an MPG test. That is a pretty cool balance of driving between the hwy. & city roads. I say keep this mpg test coming. Thanks Andre and Mr. Kent.
You bet
Great video guys. I have cruise control on all my cheap old vehicles. I never use it. Thanks guys
Same! 😂 thinking if my truck wasn’t a 2004 and had the new cruise control that maintains distance and even stops for you, I might use that. Still not sure though.
@@chrisdemas8246 I'm just the opposite. I would never use cruise control if it was adaptive cruise.
Now the question for me next year is Canyon VS Tacoma VS Ranger. This new Canyon is very tempting.
The lack of cruise control just makes me wonder how much Andrea’s foot influences results 🤔
The answer is not nothing.
I would guess nil. They were following in line.
@@jimsomerville3924 the cruise control in modern vehicles isn’t just rudimentary speed control. It is capable of using the least amount of throttle to maintain a given speed, a hyper miler can beat cruise control with experience and patience, but the average driver and average scenario cruise control will beat a driver almost every time.
@@spcneary - exactly.
@@spcneary I have 21 Tundra with adaptive cruise and on several trips between Indy and Dallas I always beat the cruise by 2 or 3 mpg. Computers can’t think in advance. Big draw back. But it is convenient and I love it.
You can't be more consistent, but you can be more efficient than cruise control.
Denver 100 is a great new video idea for testing mpg's. Keep up the great work.
The idea of a standard mpg loop test is a great idea. The Ike Gauntlet for towning, the Denver 100 for mpg.
i cant wait to see this done with the ranger raptor. zr2 bison and the tacoma trd pro or the trailhunter.. good stuff guys.
Would be nice to see you guys do this with prior vehicles you've tested. Namely, the previous generation diesel variants of Colorado/Canyon, plus both the hybrid and EcoBoost versions of the Ford Maverick.
Awesome video, thanks for sharing.
Awesome test, would love to see the other new midsized trucks tested as well to see how they all compare.
Main gripe with the GM twins is putting most of the controls into the infotainment system. Seeing you all have to dig into the menus just to reset trip meters makes me thankful for the system control buttons on my steering wheel.
It’s really not that big of a deal.
2nd that. I only reset my trip when I get gas, takes me couple seconds extra to reset maybe. I leave the headlights on auto
Great idea. Denver 100. Actually a good driver can safe gas not using a cruise control. Going uphill the cc keeps the speed meaning it pumps more gas in order to do so. I would lift my foot a bit going uphill, losing a couple of miles in speed and gaining it again once I go downhill easily. BTW. I do low 30s mpg on my 2019 BT-50 diesel.
lol ok
I agree, though MPG figures for other countries are not quite apples to apples if they use imperial gallons vs our US gallon which is smaller.
absolutely. Cruise control kills MPG. much better to go with the ebbs and flows of elevation in hilly places like Colorado. Also, CC is usually pretty aggressive, it will immediately downshift with you fall a few MPH on a hill, where a smart human would just lightly roll on the gas in that situation. I have to give adaptive cruise systems like Tesla's autopilot kudos for being much calmer about this sort of thing, i.e. when the slow car in front of you moves out of the way, the tesla slowly and smoothly applies power instead of just ripping back up to your set speed.
If you maintain the speed going up the hill you use more fuel as well!! 😂😂😂. If you don’t, you are a giant pain in the arse slowing down and impeding traffic. It’s not illegal, just annoying.
Computer has no chance of beating your mpg with own foot. It never takes advantage hills and traffic. It will floor it to gain 5 mph. I use the momentum to propel me. Computers can’t even begin to match.
Once, and only once my 2008 GMC Sierra 1500 got 25 mpg ! This was heading eastbound on I 80 in Nebraska. The wind was minimal and the road tilted slightly down hill. To do it the speed had to be kept down to 55 mph to make the 5.3 L churn along. At 65 mph it can get 17.9 mpg. In town it gets about 12.5 mpg. Now the truck has 246,000 and I still am using it. It is currently having it's rough spots smoothed out by a competent and considerate mechanic.
What was the weight of each truck?
The Canyon should be heavier with the extra options, right?
They've been rubbing that cruise control thing in for awhile now. 😂
That was a very interesting result and a cool video to watch, I didn't fast forward in it all because I didn't want to miss out on any of the conversations, I love the brutal honesty of mr. Truck and how Andre rolls with the punches great team up!
Thanks
It would be very interesting to see what the fuel economy comes ot to doing a reverse loop.
The Denver 100 is an excellent way to find fuel efficiency.
Keep doing the Denver 100, please. In fact, it would be interesting to see the Silverado 1500 in 3.0 diesel run that track.
My 11 Colorado get about 22 MPG crew cab Z71 3.7L 5 cylinder. I haven't done the 30 sec wait after the pump shuts off.
To see the ECO light you must “ADD” the MPG to the dash guage cluster. Its an option when youre in the trip menu. I just saw mine today. So when ECO lights up, the engine is in 2 cylinder mode?
The canyon also should have a bed outlet where the Colorado trailboss doesn’t. That and the slightly more premium interior is why I like the canyon more both great trucks and great video
Don’t forget those yellow halogens on a 2023 next gen model, I’d much rather have the canyon.
@@muminrahman7088 I like the Colorado Trailboss, but I wish they at least had optional LED lights. Even the Colorado LT comes standard with Halogens but you can option it with LED lights, so I don't know why they wouldn't offer LED lights on the Trailboss also.
Last October I used E470 to get from I 70 west to I 25 north.
It was about 18 miles. I got billed three times, for a total of just over $20. That's the last time I visit Colorado !
Andre: I'll eventually get cruise control.
Also Andre: I'm selling my colorado, here's my new truck.🤣love the video
NICE TO HAVE YOU BOTH BACK 👏👏👏..... HAVE A BEAUTIFUL SATURDAY EVERYONE ✌️
I had a Pea Green Chevy Luv that was so rusty when it rained water sprayed into the cab through the floor when I bought it. Learned how to pop rivet tin to replace the floor.
The little loop on the tailgate that’s missing on Andre’s truck is inexcusable. The holes are in the gate!! Literally two little pieces of steel to increase the utility of the truck bed. Horrible cost cutting by GM.
Love the Andre & Mr. Truck combo.
Thanks
I'm looking forward to seeing the off road video of Andre's new truck as I have the same one ordered, I can't wait for it!
Great video! My issue is, that my 2022 V6 Canyon gets 26MPG Highway, and 15MPG city!
Would like to see you test with the cylinder deactivation off vs on
My 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL Sport with literally no options besides the hard top comes with cruise control standard. Genuinely surprised it's not standard on the Colorado even on the lower end trims.
Edit: also nice to see they might be under-rating their truck rather than overrating like manufacturers tend to do.
Hey andre cruz control might be as easy as getting a different knob thats how it was on the Silverados. Everything was there as far as wiring. People were getting the knob with cruise and changing it and then connected the existing wire from the cruise and they had cruise
this is a great real-life test. Lots of people are going with a midsize truck to save money. So it would be good if they could.....thanks for doing this. but i do have to throw down a gauntlet of sorts. I recently bought a 2014 Grand Cherokee HEMI with the cylinder deactivation. I drove Golden to Colorado springs (going over monument hill twice at 7343 feet) and back at normal highway speeds (i.e. 75ish, MPH, but trying to save gas, and got 25MPG average running mild AT tires. This was confirmed with a fill-up within about 2%. This is a 2.5 ton full time AWD vehicle. I think there are two factors-- the cylinder deactivation of 'ECO' mode, the halfway decent aero in the front, and the 8 speed. There's no reason why anything new shouldn't be able to do this.....
Very nice comparison. On my 2022 1500 ZR2 (V8) , w/ easy traffic, light foot and consistent speed (w/ or w/o cruise control) I can get about 18 MPG in the city (suburbs). About 21 MPG on the highway (cruise at 65 MPH). I think EPA numbers may be the average of different driving conditions.
Great comparison video!👌
Great video Mr Truck and Andrey!! Fun and informative. It’s getting to be more common that vehicles are meeting or exceeding EPA mpg estimates. Toyota has done so for a very long time,, except the Tundra, haha, but with the new Tundra I expect it will happen now as well. GM is also good at meeting or exceeding.
This is at real world use as well, so technically it should be worse than the ideal conditions EPA estimates are obtained. Interesting.
Thanks
I always enjoy your videos.
Great video @Andre & @MrTruck longer loop 👍 and more laughs 😅 works for me. Keep up the good work fellas @TFL
Thanks
I'd love to see more MPG test with no load and also with something like a 1500pound trailer (trailer and motorcycle or 17ft bass boat etc)
The gauntlet is cool but does not give me data for making a purchase.
Not bad for the power output, My Tacoma manages 21ish MPG driving in Denver metro with the V6 and 6 speed auto. Now I'm curious how well that i-Force MAX Tacoma will do, I wouldn't be surprised if it averaged 25+ mpg.
I saw you have added a spray in bed liner to your Colorado. What kind is it?
Andre love the video but I want to see you tow your tige' to Horsetooth and tell us how it feels! I have a similar boat and am considering the canyon At4 because of you!
You should try this in different areas of the country due to composition of gasoline varying from region to region due to smog concerns in metro vs non-metropolitan areas.
Nicely done… You guys beat the mileage numbers.
My 2023 Silverado LT Z71 crew cab with the 3.0 LZ0 gets 22 around town and 30+ on the freeway. Best average is 44.5.
Need that 3.0, in the Canyon and Colorado. Best combination of size, power and mpg
They’d sell all they could make. Throw the 6.2 in there while ur at it.😊
@@dansherwood9851 a man could dream..... Chevy, needs to pull a Ram
@@amatureskater15 The 3.0 Duramax would not physically fit in the Colorado/Canyon chassis. Saw two cylinders off of it and make a turbo 2.0 L Duramax and it likely would be a very fuel efficient base engine option if one didn't need to tow a large trailer.
Awesome test, keep up the great videos, we need more Mr truck on them, he’s funny😊
Thanks
I ordered my Trail boss in radiant red. I didn’t get the cruise control, or any bell and whistles. I don’t need any of that bull! It’s a great looking truck, factory lift, wider stance, 391 foot pound of torque, locking diff, 11.1 inch info screen and easy to clean inside. At a reasonable price because everything is so damn expensive.
GM did right with this Trailboss 👍🏻
I like this test. Keep ‘em coming.
Love your videos. Keep up the good work. My 02 Dakota 4.7 gets at best on hwy. 16! Ha. But it is paid for
Definitely need the Denver Loop for the inevitable CO/Canyon/Ranger/Tacoma/Frontier/Gladiator shootout. Hell, make it a series with the Ike, Goldhill, and Immogene Pass or Red Cone. Really see what each one is capable of.
Coming from last gen zr2, this is a huge help! Looking to purchase a new truck and it gives me hope I’ll see better than 15-16mpg
New ZR2 is getting 16mpg fuel mileage
Nothing to write home about. Put the 6.2 in there and see that be 20mpg around town.
I like both of these trucks; really leaning to the Chevy ZR2, but haven’t seen any on local lots yet.
Start of Regular Production (SORP) slipped from April, to mid May, and now mid June per my local dealer. I have a ZR2 on order and it can't arrive soon enough.
Considered downsizing and going back to GM, but my ‘21 F-150 SCrew 2.7 gets 24mpg down the highway and that’s with 33” Cooper Discoverer AT2’s. I got 25-26 with factory Hancooks.
Need to try the Duramax from last year
How you guys make a 20+ min video with 3 minutes of real content is ironically impressive.
Cry about it
Andre, the color of your truck is amazing! It's like if you lit gold on fire. Don't listen to that chuck-e- cheese extra with the "old woman lipstick color" truck.
Remove the spoiler and see how close they really are. Then we would have a better idea of what the tires cost you in mileage. Good review.
Would love to see a hyper mile loop, watching rpm’s and keep speed under 55 and on flat roads
I'm picking up my Trail Boss Tomorrow. This makes me very happy!!!
So much fun with you two. Great team.
glad to see you extent the milage of your test. 50 miles its to subseptable to pumping error
I heard in our 2023 Chevy Colorado 2.7 Turbos that the fuel management cuts out cylinders #2 and #3 at higher speeds, that where you get the better fuel mileage at higher speeds.
I can't wait until the same aftermarket parts for the 1500's with the 2.7 turbo become available for the Colorados and Canyons. That should help squeeze more MPG's out of them. Cold air intakes and tunes, particularly.
The 23 Ridgeline has a V6, which gets about 19 city, 24 Highway. I get average 22 mixed, 26 mpg Highway at 70. But at 78 I get 23,24mpg. 8 speed auto. I wonder what the taco hybrid will get.
My takeaway from this is that the bigger tires only cost about .5 mpg which is negligible
Poor Andre's never gonna hear the end of the cruise control thing.
I had a 1982 Mazda b2000 sundowner pickup truck with a standard transmission. I almost always got just under 30 miles per gallon driving it normal.
Great video!
Y'all should have factored in the weight difference of the two trucks as well. All the add-ons for the Canyon definitely add weight. I'd be interested to see how much closer they would have been. haha
Even my 1964 Cadillac had cruise control. Makes me chuckle.
Being turbocharged, would it get better mileage with premium?
I just started looking at the Colorado! What does High output mean?
I just started watching. Waiting for someone to bring up cruise control 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you Mr. Truck 😂
Curious how this compares to the old model with the V-6. I know a couple people with those that see 27 on the highway.
My 22 Canyon with the V6 gets 26 Highway, 15 city.
can you guys do another Denver 100 Denver loop with the ram 1500 and a ram 3500.
My Canyon 2wd gets 22mpg combined hwy and city. With all that torque I don't have to floor the gas pedal to get average performance out of the truck. I stay at the speed limit and coast a little bit more when coming up on a red light or an exit from the freeway. I accelerate with out using alot of RPM'S and let the torque do its thing.
Jhc, how much do you need to spend to get cruise control?
Good to see the EPA must be driving like a maniac to get their ratings during their testing.
From what I can tell this would be similar results to the outgoing V6 from my experience. Sometimes you can get 24+ in the gen 2s but you really need to be going between 55-70 mph.
If there is elevation change, weather, and traffic you're looking at more of a 20-22 mpg on the highway with the stock Wranglers that come on the Z71.
I feel like the ZR2 model getting 16 mpg is especially misleading. I wouldn't be surprised if that gets somewhere around 19-20 mpg around this loop.
Could you review the Ford Ranger Wildtrak?
I wonder what the mpg difference between the old Colorado v6 vs the new Colorado in the real world would be
I see usually a low of 18-19 and have seen up to 23.9 with a peak of 25 in my 2022 gmc canyon at4. I mostly see 22-23.5mpg consistently with most of that being highway driving
I have a 2015 gmc canyon 4wd crew cab long bed and no cylinder deactivation and was able to get a high of 35.1 miles per gallon. I got this number from driving on a 50 mile per hour speed limit roads on a 3 hour road trip last year. Mix of flats and hills. Around town rural roads I average 24 to 26 mpg.
@@TB-dj8kl damn thats pretty good. I hate cylinder deactivation. It doesn't do shit other than cause engines to fail quicker
I agree with Mr. Truck, the difference in mpgs was due to different colors of these trucks :D
Even my base 2015 Colorado WT had the tailgate piece to hold it halfway up. I'm surprised Chevy cheaped out on something like that on this one.
cool video, thanks
You're telling me we're back to having cruise control as an option now? Even with that touchscreen?
Do you have cruise control....LOL.
Next year it could be standard as is now in the base model of Maverick.... though that Maverick is $2700 more than when it came out last year.
I now have a Maverick EcoBoost, awd, 4ktow, fx4 off road (the tow pkg gets a different final drive).
I'm getting about 25 mpg, yet mileage improves as much as 3 mpg IF I go 65 in the 65 zones, rather than 72 mph or more as most do around here. Unfortunately, it seems quite dangerous driving the speed limit.
I like the Denver 100. Keep up the great work.
Andre. You’ve had your Colorado now for a year? What are your thoughts.
I’d buy one if they would offer a 6’ bed. They look front heavy to me. I’ve always liked the look of a slightly longer bed… to me the Tacoma with the 6’ bed or the chevy 2500 with the standard bed, I think it’s about 6’8”’.
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I have a '21 Nissan Titan Pro-4x and get 18-21 on the highway and 19-22 on 55mph secondaries with few stops. City, I get 15-16. That's with a 5.6L V8 and AT tires. This is in upstate NY where it isn't flat anywhere.
This is one of the reasons I got a full size truck instead of a midsize. The midsize don't get any better gas mileage and I get all the extras of a full size.
Great to see Mr. Truck back with Andrey!!!