Leatherman P2 after a few days. Not as “phenomenal” as I first thought.
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- So, when I opened the box up and started playing with the P2, I was super excited with all the anticipation and hype.
Then I used the P2 for a few days (pretty hard) and I’m not nearly as impressed.
Here’s why...
I was pretty excited about these but as soon as I saw one I knew it was a joke. Add to the fact that the implements themselves are lame compared to other LM tools like the Rebar; the polymer bushings in the tool allow too much side to side movement and the handles are not ergonomic. My response to the Free was to replace my Charge TTi with a Victorinox Spirit which is the best multi-tool I’ve ever used in overall terms.
I'm sure Leatherman engineers are watching UA-cam videos and reading all feedback and complains from consumers regarding the new FREE Series and I guarantee they will make some changes so in the mean time, I'll just wait for the new and upgraded P2 or P4 and that's when I'll make my move 🍺😉
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@Naif 123 3 years later, no changes
@@reece758 4 years later, no changes
Maybe the arc will be a real thing? lol
I love my P2. Use it everyday for about 4 months light and hard work no problems
My pair went tight(pliars) after first crimp. P4 did not do this. The P2's should be coming back from Leatherman soon.
the mini driver in the wave is my most used tool in my field, I break it often though
I purposely did NOT purchase the 1st gen for these reasons, hopefully they will get the kinks out in the next round. I will patiently wait.
Cynthia Songco I'm sure Leatherman does this on purpose
Too bad the customers are the testers for Leatherman products. There's no way they tested these in real world situations. If they did, the ergonomic issues, and the tools opening during use, would have been fixed before these hit the market.
Got P4 in 2022. Sold it 2 months after. Still shit. Get Wave, Charge, Surge, Super Tool... Those are solid. This one needs some work from the ground up.
I have to work on eye glasses, mine and others', every so often, and I find that mini screwdriver exceptionally useful. Very disappointed to not have it offered on the Surge I just bought. I'll fabricate one that will fit in the saw/file socket. I love the bit exchanger. P2 not for me. Thank you for the review.
I also do Commercial HVAC/R. Started with a Wave original,broke a pliar tip at the 2 day mark,that was 31 yrs. ago. Currently carrying Free P4 and really happy with it.My P2 has sticky pliar syndrome. Gonna check with Leatherman. Thinking about Surge, Thanks for the video.
Send it to Leatherman and tell them it’s sticky. They’ll get it up and running for you.
If you have the funds, I’d suggest buying a second one to ride you over. Then you’ll always have a backup.
@@Mezna539 Thank you for the info.
I have the P2 and in hind sight I probably should have waited for the new ARK to be released. The short tools are useless so I removed them and went with the bit exchanger from Zap wizard which work out perfectly. I think Leatherman finally got it right with the new ARK coming out with the tool set. When I was working the trades the Surge was definitely my EDC for work hands down.
Nice summary of faults tool definitely not worth recommending
I watched a lot of videos before buying the P4 and I have to say. Everyone made the bit exchanger sound like a huge deal, it's not at all. And I actually haven't seen a youtube review where they were using anything other than a Philips/Flat head bit in the exchanger lol
Well. Everything you said made sense to me. I'm an HVAC guy too. I'm gonna look into that Surge now. Been a Waver but time for new. Thanks for the heads-up.
Terry Harris if you are going from a Wave, to a Surge as an HVAC guy, you’ll love it!
The bigger pliers is awesome!
Who needs that many flat head screwdrivers?? The bit driver is the deal breaker for me. And agree with the pathetic file and ruler, wire stripper. Seen another video a dude was cutting wire, and every time he made a cut... all the inside tools popped out. Surge is King though, rugged and reliable.
Love my p2. Saved me in so many situations. Working in the woods and doing woodworking . oh well to each his own.
Really? It doesn't even have a woodsaw. Must be some strange woods you go to.
leatherman in some particular ways is like gerber: They come up with innovations that are fantastic, but alas... make huge mistakes as well. Leatherman bit kits, the new ratchet and extender piece IMO are outstanding. Between Victorinox's ratchet kit and the new leatherman one has a set that can really tackle sockets, different angles, and take up little room. But in the production of new tools, I see Chinese companies like BiBury making solid products, innovating intelligently, and question what leatherman is doing.
The primary problem I see is how the size of the tool, along with the size of the tools in the set, and finally the durability of the tool set, are all separate metrics. This tool is really a medium sized tool that does not appear to be particularly robust. A Spirit or spirit X can be medium sized, but has a lot more robust and better quality set of tools. So why buy something like this? one handed opening?
Because it’s new and fun and different. The one handed opening is extremely handy and convenient. The P4 is a much better product in my opinion and I do love it for what it is. Thanks for checking out the video and have a great day.
I’ll have to check out some of the Victorinox stuff sometime.
@@Mezna539
The one handed aspect is a metric that it's becoming sort of a standard, I do agree it's important. I look at it like when tools used to be on the inside where the pliers were on so many multi-tools and now? People got it and they put the tools outside the pliers usually.
i have a wave and a surge too and i completely agree with your evaluations. thanks
I also have a Wave and a Surge. Either of them will blow a Free out of the galaxy.
@@michaelcolloton6971_ I have a Wave+,Surge and Super Tool 300. I wouldn't trade those particular ones for any other Leatherman.
I use my charge tti a lot at work when I'm to lazy to get proper tools. It's really abused and looks dirty as hell but it keeps on going
Iam also a hvac guy I use the charge tti with extender bit but yeah quarter inch and 5 /15 is always used lol
i think a lot of people did not like the p2 because of certain features that others will not use. I know for fishing this knife will have everything I need but for jobs like yours it may be less then ideal
Well for the price of this (£120 which is $150) I could get a Spirit X with leather pouch - this has a usable file, not comically short like the one on the Free P2, an actual 3D (Wow!) Phillips which won't slip, scissors which actually cut and many more tools like a woodsaw which the P2 doesn't have. It won't rust like Leathermans do either. For the price of the P4 ($190) I can have the Spirit MX with pocket clip and one handed opening blade. No competition.
Hello brother if say you don’t like the p2 then why not sell it and use the wave instead of putting it up. Just saying do you like p2 better than the wave?
Rc fan C , I returned the P2 back to Leatherman. Got the P4.
I love it!
I sold all my other multitools and got a 2nd. P4 as a backup.
Ok brother. I have wave plus and the rebar. I like them both but I feel the itch for that p4 but don’t that’s why I watch your video to see the difference between the p2 p4. I don’t like the combo blade. P4 is more than I can justify spending the money for new tool when my Leatherman’s are perfecting fine. Maybe when I can find on sale. Thank you for your video brother.
Good info. Still going to get Free P2. All the negative aspects you pointed out are not a problem for me personally. Enjoyed the video, only suggestion I would offer would be to avoid using phrases like "the file and wire stripper are junk" and the extremely popular "Leatherman can do better". Based on this video, I can guess you would dislike the Wingman model, which has been incredible for me for 2 years edc. All personal needs/preference.
Maybe, but the Wingman doesn’t cost 110.00. The Wave is a way better tool, no comparison, for significantly less money. The Rebar is 60% of the price of a Free P2 and is also far superior.
Surge FTW
If they can take the Leatherman wave and make like the p2 or p4 I'd would love that
Thank you for the review 😊👍 I am not buying it, you save me $120 bucks 💵. I rather buy the Surge, or the Victorinox spirit X.
Surge, please, Surge.
Alejandro Sanchez I'm not buying it either you saved me $190
The only problems I have had with my Wave, my favorite model, is keeping the knife blades sharp. I have always been good at sharpening knives. I have SEVERAL of your tools, from the first model to the surge. I carry it everywhere, but I can't get it to take an edge. Don't want it shaving sharp, but better than it is. Would like two Full size blades for me, one plain blade, and the other half serrated. Love you products and have had one or two with me since you started making them. I have other brands of this type tool, but don't care for them. Thanks, and I really like the product.
The free serie is designed for one handed use. If they put a bitdriver in the tool it isn't one handed use cause you need to switch between the drivers with 2 hands.
I don’t understand the bit driver. So many seem to rave but isn’t the point to have an all in one tool and not to have to carry a bunch of bits?
P4 is great. Everyone’s different.
Price is Wr0ng agreed.
Got my P4 today and the P2 is on its way back to Leatherman tomorrow. Thanks for watching.
How does the interchangeable saw work on the surge?
logan flook, it’s a great saw. Takes a little time to get it changed out the first couple times. You get the hang of it eventually and it’s not too bad. I didn’t use the saw too much though. I mainly used the file.
A-Aron M. Thanks man. I’m considering getting one because of the saw. And the other tools of course but mostly the saw lol
logan flook, it’s definitely a great saw. I also like the fact that you can buy extra blades since they are similar to that of a jigsaw blade. You can make several other blades work with the Surge. (Not just Leatherman brand) you won’t regret a Surge. I regret selling mine. I’ve really gotten used to the P4 though. Great for what I need it to do and I have 2 of them. When one breaks, I send it in and use the backup until it returns. Good luck!
A-Aron M. You for sure can’t beat their warranty! Thanks for the advice!
I just got the p4 and carried it all day yesterday. It's awesome. Minor gripes. Your not going to get exactly what you want unless you custom order.
No way would I want a bit exchanger. I wouldn't want to carry anything extra.
brad flament I hear ya.
The one thing I like about the bit exchanger is that if you break a bit, you can swap it out without having to wait for the warranty process. The tools are pretty strong though.
My P4 is arriving in a matter of minutes I hope.
For Leatherman reviews, I think everyone is correct and no almost no one are fault because individual's need are all different. We all can watch it all and evaluate ourselves to satisfy or to avoid each multitool in the market. Everyone pick's each own poison :))
Ive just got the Free P4 and I’m amazed how fantastic it is. I instantly send back the Wave, it’s “technology” feels way primitive than Free P4, the P4 is definitely a step forward. Yes, the ruler is a joke but everything beside that it’s freaking amazing and way better and refined than Wave’s. P.S.: Don’t care about the bit exchanger, the awesomeness of the Free P4 compensate that.
Let me guess, you're under 25?
May be P4 is phenomenal?
Иван Белью I’ve got one on the way. It should be here soon. Returning the P2. I think it’ll be a little better, but I plan on some modifications.
@@Mezna539 I carry with me every day leatherman for work!
So my favorite is Surge. Plus Crunch.
I too carry a Leatherman for work and at home as well. I’m actually really liking the P4. The Surge was my go to for work. It’s a great tool.
Take care.
You immediately discredit yourself within the first 20 seconds of this video.
So why should I or anyone else stay and finish watching?
It took you a long time to understand that the Free P2 or P4 were only[Wingman+Sidekick]PLUS! :)
This was evident when these products were presented months ago.
In addition to that, to misunderstand enough because under no circumstances can the Free P2 or P4 compete with the Wave+ or Charge+.
I don't congratulate you.
diezelle57 why the hate?
@@Mezna539 Do not panic, keep calm.
I’m not panicking. Lol
@@Mezna539 That's good, you know how to face adversity, I had underestimated you.
Hahaha
Whatever...
Strange...everyone I know seems to love the FREE line
I do love the P4, just not the P2. Parts of it are great, but it could be better. Just my opinion.
Have an awesome day!
@@Mezna539 appreciate the response!!
Everyone? Humm, no.
Just look some channels focus on multitools, like txtoolcrib, maxlvledc, or multitoolinthepocket. They all point the weaknesses of this new leatherman line.
Ouch; kinda glad i stayed to my gerber suspension nxt/blackfire multitool. Easier to forgive smaller stuff on cheaper less painfull to lose in contractor work (once PA opens up fully) multitools.
*If the same thing exists with more tools Y would u then be a cheap ass an not buy it ???*
That's a great question! It's been a while, but I actually don't have the P2 anymore. I have 2 of the P4's. (one is a backup)