THE LONG GAME WINS. Why you can't quick-fix nervous system regulation.

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  • @gyorgybernard8647
    @gyorgybernard8647 Місяць тому +71

    I’m a person with chronic dysregulation. I have to keep reminding myself that I must let my body set the pace, not my mind, not my ambition. I must allow titration. Slow and steady wins the race. Rest is productive. In the long run it will make me more efficient…. I may have internalised some toxic productivity beliefs 😅

    • @klaramolitva
      @klaramolitva Місяць тому

      Same here ❤

    • @suem.3651
      @suem.3651 Місяць тому

      I am glad I am a subscriber. I saw your short and it honestly, made me feel like you are running scared from all the competition out there. The tone of this video and your pauses and smiles make all the difference here. It would be a shame if you were losing business as I have long believed you are one of the top experts in nervous system healing. If only I could afford SBSM on just my SSDI (US term for Social Security Disability), I would be there in a heartbeat!

    • @alanfrancis9225
      @alanfrancis9225 23 дні тому +1

      Find a practice, do the process without craving a result. Craving will push results away.

    • @MultiKoko73
      @MultiKoko73 5 днів тому

      Do you do any inner work? Therapy? Your dysregulation has a reason. You weren't born dysregulated. If you clear those hurts, your body can release the stored tension. This is my experience. I have released decades old tension from my body. It comes with emotions. You have to make sense of your emotions and story.

  • @sistaschin
    @sistaschin Місяць тому +24

    And thank you also for emphasizing the importance of repetition and integration. It's so easy to become discouraged and to give up.

  • @laylas5341
    @laylas5341 Місяць тому +26

    Every word is true. I am in my 3rd time through as an SBSM student of Irene's expertise. What i have noticed and experienced through the process of this work is that it is profoundly empowering. Each exercise in this program is an opportunity for a brand new experience of the world and your experience of this world. I will say that this is not a journey for the faint of heart, because each experience you have will be different from the last. This work is for the warriors, the lovers and the dedicated. Just today I did an SBSM exercise I'd done many times before and experienced clearing in my sinuses that I didn't know needed to happen!
    Irene and her team are awesome - but yes, you need to dedicate yourself to the process in order to experience the benefits of this legacy.

    • @ninarydehn6458
      @ninarydehn6458 Місяць тому

      Wow! Clearing sinuses? Got bacterial sinuitis since one year and cant get rid of it..what was the excersice?

    • @laylas5341
      @laylas5341 Місяць тому +1

      @ninarydehn6458 I was working REALLY slowly with the Gentle Head Rolling. I had to blow my nose afterwards and I also coughed up a little phlegm🤣 !

  • @gloriabarrett6476
    @gloriabarrett6476 Місяць тому +28

    Ive been in this program 4 years-it’s slo-motion magic. It’s not what you see or feel immediately, it’s what you notice being different later…sometimes much later. And sometimes it’s sooner, that’s why the education is key. And then there’s times a cherished habit that has got you through hard times… like drinking an ocean of beer -just evaporates. The subtlety of molecular change is sublime .

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  Місяць тому +9

      @@gloriabarrett6476 ohh. I love that: slo-motion-magic 🌟✨💖
      Can we "steal" that from ya Gloria? Keep up the slowness #slowhealing and #solidhealing

    • @holistic-therapist.
      @holistic-therapist. Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for this. On the flipside of this point.. if one is just starting their journey and a therapy treatment (somatic session with a practitioner) made me feel horrible and triggered symptoms, would you advise going slower? Maybe just starting with sensory exercises?

    • @gloriabarrett6476
      @gloriabarrett6476 Місяць тому +1

      @@holistic-therapist. Irene stresses go at your own pace-especially if you have EDT because we are so full of “ beach balls” we can do too much too soon and be really discombobulated

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  Місяць тому +1

      ​@@holistic-therapist., Jen here from Irene's Team. Yes, going more slowly may an option to consider. As Gloria mentioned, it may also be helpful to learn about early developmental trauma (EDT) and to see if it might resonate with your experience.
      When EDT is in the picture, we often need to take a different approach to this work (and not all somatic practitioners are trained in working with EDT). Irene and the team do also strongly emphasize the importance of engaging with this work at one's own pace.
      I'll share some related info in case you want to learn more.
      Q&A w/ Irene, Seth, & Janice. Special focus on healing early & developmental trauma - ua-cam.com/video/78Qix0D6eLk/v-deo.html

    • @slimelove3493
      @slimelove3493 9 днів тому +1

      i like that. "keep up the slowness"

  • @jenniferflower9265
    @jenniferflower9265 Місяць тому +29

    As someone who has nearly recovered from cptsd. I have not gone through her program and has listened to many of her posts and many others. I have used their advice in recovering and what she speaks of here is true. It needs to be repetitive, as much as necessary until there’s a budge in change, then keep going. It’s worth it.

    • @Miss-Hellcat666
      @Miss-Hellcat666 Місяць тому +3

      I've been at this work for close to a year now, using only free resources and the occasional self help book. I'm noticing changes and improvements, but the process is very cyclical with lots of ups and downs (mostly downs really🙃). Would you mind telling me how long your journey has been? My ACE score is 8 (not accounting for the generational trauma) and I fear I'll never reach any sense of normalcy before it's "too late". I am already years into physical disability due to the effects of cptsd and I can't lead a functional life. I have a strong sense of urgency to heal soon and fast! Is there any hope for me?
      Sorry for dumping all this out, you don't have to answer this, but I'd appreciate if you do❤

    • @jenniferflower9265
      @jenniferflower9265 Місяць тому +14

      @@Miss-Hellcat666 I went through that sense of urgency. I noticed that it actually slowed or haunted my progress. I was quite ill myself and became bedridden. The times when I was able to truly accept where I was at is where I would find healing. I used this work plus EMDR in my healing. It took two years for myself but everyone is different. Today, I am no longer bedridden nor do I have any signs of what I was diagnosed with. I do have a back injury that is slowly healing do to begin down for so long or some say it’s caused from a trauma reflex. I became a yoga teacher and then got my personal training certification. Currently, I am taking a training for teaching somatic yoga. I wish you well, keep taking really really good care of yourself.

    • @Miss-Hellcat666
      @Miss-Hellcat666 Місяць тому

      @@jenniferflower9265 Thank you so much, this gives me hope! I am really happy for your recovery ☺️ I'll do my best to slow down, I've already sensed that the urgency was detrimental to my healing, but it's a tough habit to break🫠 Thank you again🙏❤️

    • @Miss-Hellcat666
      @Miss-Hellcat666 Місяць тому

      @@jenniferflower9265 Thank you❤️

    • @sam.e16
      @sam.e16 Місяць тому

      @@jenniferflower9265 It's nice to hear of people's accounts like yours. I just got back from therapy today, and I was literally covering this aspect with my therapist, about feeling desperate and feeling the urge to find the right modality to move forward as I'm so fed up still dealing with this years later. I've been so focused on psychotherapy the last few years, but I'm realizing that it alone won't help me proceed. Going into the body and doing less intellectualizing is what's required. Somatics does feel quite overwhelming however, so trying to get a good basis on how to approach it is needed I think.

  • @ellenik7407
    @ellenik7407 Місяць тому +10

    This is so true. Normally when I’ve done something to help with my anxiety and depression I would be so harsh on myself because a lot of programs out there promise that you will have improved by the time it’s finished, only to get to the end and feel like a failure. That pressure to perform is not great for the nervous system at all if anything, it makes it worse. I am doing the 21 day nervous system program and I really love Irene’s message about it being a marathon and not a sprint. This takes the pressure off and even if you have a few setbacks it’s a comfort knowing that it’s a lifestyle journey and learning to listen to your body’s needs and following your natural impulse. Repetition and being patient and kind to yourself really is key to build a solid foundation for healthy nervous system regulation.

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  Місяць тому +1

      @@ellenik7407 💖💪

  • @kevinmasterson5733
    @kevinmasterson5733 Місяць тому +1

    This is great. I heard something similar said somewhere else, that nervous system regulation is like developing a muscle. Thanks Irene.

  • @thenicolemartinez
    @thenicolemartinez Місяць тому +20

    I am one of those people who spent the majority of my time in bed, for nearly 3 years. Depression, chronic fatigue, suicidal ideation, it was awful. And before😮 I was mostly bedridden I was reactive, and my traumas were spilling all over the ones I love. I’m about 2.5 years into doing SBSM and this year I’ve gotten my master gardener certification, reiki level 1, and I’m 3 weeks into massage therapy school. I’ve done trauma therapy with a therapist in tandem with SBSM and did a week long intensive at Onsite in June. SBSM has been foundational and absolutely necessary for all of the other work that I’ve done to be effective and “stick.” Some of the practices are natural for me now, some of them I go back and listen to regularly. I get something new, a deeper layer every time. I cannot thank you enough for giving me the tools to come home to myself. 🙏🏼

    • @dfinite1111
      @dfinite1111 Місяць тому +2

      What is SBSM?

    • @thenicolemartinez
      @thenicolemartinez Місяць тому

      @@dfinite1111SmartBody SmartMind. It is Irene Lyon’s comprehensive nervous system healing program.

    • @annemurphy8074
      @annemurphy8074 Місяць тому +3

      @@dfinite1111 Smart Body Smart Mind.

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  Місяць тому +2

      @@dfinite1111, here's a link to where you can learn more about SmartBody SmartMind (SBSM): smartbodysmartmind.com/
      - Jen from Team Lyon

  • @sistaschin
    @sistaschin Місяць тому +9

    Thank you for this important reminder to not rush this procress or expect immediate dramatic results. ♡

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  Місяць тому

      @@sistaschin Yes. You are welcome.

  • @sharang747
    @sharang747 Місяць тому +8

    I did this I said those things and I can Say Irene is right! I’m happy to give a testimony about it all. Guys time. And understanding letting this stuff set in. Let it become and integrate in your daily life

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  Місяць тому

      @sharang747, great to hear that long game worked for you! Thanks for offering to share a testimonial. I'll pass your comment along and someone may reach out to you. - Jen from Irene's Team

  • @catherinevankampen1262
    @catherinevankampen1262 Місяць тому +3

    Right. Ok. I feel a bit of a friendly kick in the pants to re-start the 21 day Tune Up. It was great, but the practices are fading, so I will run through again and maybe a bit more will 'stick' this time. Good reminders, Irene. Simple truths that we already know in our core still need to be repeated. Often.

  • @CrystalVideo9
    @CrystalVideo9 Місяць тому +5

    Yes, it's common sense that if you want to achieve ANYTHING it takes consistent practice and a positive mindset over a period of appropriate amount of time. TY Irene!❤

  • @maryannribble3254
    @maryannribble3254 Місяць тому +3

    Having been involved in listening to my body’s communications since before I lost most of my hearing at age 2 1/2 - because I “knew “ there was wisdom there , I was being given that was meant to help me … survive and express my soul / uniqueness at the same time - I can say that what Irene is communicating here and in her reaources is Spot On ! And my life experience has (70 years ) reinforced this!
    Listening deep within , I believe , is my connection to the Divine Design of this Magnificent Universe . My own intimate and yet vast - broad - connection .
    Caroline Myss puts it well: Intimate and personal and yet Impersonal and Detached at the same time .
    ❤🎉

  • @GinaK12
    @GinaK12 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you! As we get near to the end of the year, I start to beat up on myself and say "you should be farther along than this!" So this video helps. ❤

  • @suem.3651
    @suem.3651 Місяць тому

    And after just 1, 3-part live my friend gifted me I am here to agree with Irene!! After just repeating some of her exercises you notice subtle differences.

  • @annemurphy8074
    @annemurphy8074 Місяць тому +6

    Lots of people are looking for a quick fix, they want to "feel better" RIGHT NOW! This work is an ongoing process and challenge, not an outcome.

  • @TheIVOC
    @TheIVOC 28 днів тому +1

    thank you for doing shorter videos. your content is very usefull, but I am not able to watch more than 15-20 in one go. this length is great!

  • @DivoraStern
    @DivoraStern Місяць тому +1

    oh my goodness so practical advice no quick fixes a little long winded is all...

  • @tiarianamanna973
    @tiarianamanna973 Місяць тому +12

    I started sbsm two years ago. I ve gone through just a few modules of it really, because im a complete mess, i live in total chaos and my life is a catastrophy after another continuously.
    I ve been listening to all these youtube videos, going through some 21days tune up classes, i do orienting inconsistently here n there, some times going back to study the sbsm lessons. So its all totally unorganized.
    Yet it seems there has been some positive changes anyway.

    • @spaced-outbutterfly4680
      @spaced-outbutterfly4680 Місяць тому

      Consider organizing and sorting the work

    • @tiarianamanna973
      @tiarianamanna973 Місяць тому +3

      @@spaced-outbutterfly4680 thanks for the great advice 🥴
      I dont think you really understood anything i wrote in my comment. If you did, this would most likely be the last suggestion on your list 😑

    • @gloriabarrett6476
      @gloriabarrett6476 Місяць тому +5

      Hang in there-i started 4years ago and its new land. Never been to where i am now. Although the body is 73, its on an adventure of discovery. There’s still messyness and chaos but given that this is a toxic society and culture and disproportionately cruel to women and children how could it be anything else? Self-compassion is crucial and needed in bucket loads! Be gentle and good to yourself.its not you its the world

    • @tiarianamanna973
      @tiarianamanna973 Місяць тому

      @@gloriabarrett6476 i think you are very much right..! 🍀

  • @megpierce979
    @megpierce979 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for the encouragement. :)

  • @michellem9616
    @michellem9616 Місяць тому

    Thank you 🥰

  • @diarmidbaillie
    @diarmidbaillie Місяць тому +1

    We have conditioned ourselves to feel entitled to instant gratification.

  • @caitlin7325
    @caitlin7325 Місяць тому +4

    Since you are being cheeky, l will be too. 😂
    How clear are you in your vids that your suggestions are not a quick fix? Maybe in some spaces it needs to be repeated, and repeated? Love your work btw. 🙏💜

  • @alanfrancis9225
    @alanfrancis9225 23 дні тому

    If the body has repressed and disassociated from something ( emotion) it has done it for your survival. In particular Functional Freeze. As this process saved your physical and or psychological life it will not give this up without a fight. Why? Well it still believes the threat is there, Now. So it’s learnt a Skill for you to survive.
    Over 3 years I did 2 10 day silent Vipassana retreats. My experiences were mixed. On day 9 of my 3rd retreat I released a pre birth trauma compete with the scars of an umbilical cord around my neck.Took photos. So without the grounding of the 1st and 2nd retreat nothing would have surfaced. On the 6th retreat a few weeks ago I had a 10 hour energy release ( Kundalini). Find a practice and stick at it. The body hold the secrets.

  • @SabRina-kf2hu
    @SabRina-kf2hu Місяць тому +1

    thank you so much for your valuable content! I had a question, i recently read an article saying that people wo anxiety issues have synapses dysfunction, do you think this might be the main cause of the pathology? and do you think somatic work can help restore the synapses function please?

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  Місяць тому

      @SabRina-kf2hu, Jen here from Irene's Team. Many people who are drawn to this nervous system work come with symptoms of anxiety. We see this an an expression of underlying sympathetic nervous system (SNS) activation and it does tend to change as people explore this work.
      We don't tend to talk in terms of "synapses dysfunction", and we do consistently see people having very different experiences after exploring this work over time.
      You can learn more here:
      Healing anxiety, addictions and repressed anger [Jerika’s FULL story] - irenelyon.com/2024/02/18/healing-anxiety-addictions-and-repressed-anger-jerikas-full-story/
      3 things to know when healing anxiety - irenelyon.com/2022/08/17/3-things-to-know-when-healing-anxiety/

    • @monicapower6049
      @monicapower6049 Місяць тому

      Synapses dysfunction, “chemical imbalances” etc are the symptoms, the consequences, not the cause of anxiety. They are the downstream effects manifesting physically in our bodies as a result if let’s a dysregulated nervous system.

  • @slimelove3493
    @slimelove3493 9 днів тому +1

    "for it to work," one quick walk won't make you able to climb K2, we may even need to do a couple weeks of walking for the trek to K2 "to work" without falling off, breaking bones. likewise, repetitive slowness dislodges the molecular structure of the disregulation. it's slow motion magic. same with night time affirmations while you sleep.

  • @AftreGaol
    @AftreGaol Місяць тому +3

    Im not scared of asking stupid questions. I just get offended when I get stupid answers
    I'm not invited to a lot of Xmas parties

  • @annee00
    @annee00 Місяць тому

    Hi Irene and team, I am curious how nervous system work and human design can go together. Do you have any experience with this, yourselves or with clients and/or colleagues? Thanks in advance 🙏

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  Місяць тому

      @annee00, Jen here from Irene's Team. I don't have much expertise in human design, and I do know that some of Irene's students have integrated this work with aspects of human design. This work can be quite complementary to many approaches. Essentially, it teaches us about ourselves and how to listen to and support ourselves at a deep level.

  • @nicolesalmon5537
    @nicolesalmon5537 Місяць тому +1

    I’m curious though, if your nervous system is completely burnt out / long COVID etc how long does it roughly take to fully rewire it?

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  Місяць тому

      Hi @nicolesalmon5537 - We can't answer that in general because it depends on how life was for you at birth and in the early years, how your childhood and adolescence and young adult years progressed, where you hit adversity, and where you built resiliency. Often, it takes concerted effort for multiple years but many of us find important shifts within the first weeks and months, a sort of knowing that this path offers a true way toward improved health. -Mara with Team Lyon

  • @ibolyamoor236
    @ibolyamoor236 Місяць тому

    That burning sensation in your arms, what you mentioned, i have that in my chest and upper back. Can that be stored old trauma? Freeze? It hurts so much and a have so many panic attacks and a severe sleeping disorder.

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  26 днів тому

      @ibolyamoor236, Jen here from Irene's Team. Yes, the burning sensation can be related to storied sympathetic nervous system (SNS) activation. People sometimes feel burning too as freeze thaws.

  • @Curiopus
    @Curiopus Місяць тому

    💯

  • @omarelizalde329
    @omarelizalde329 Місяць тому

    21 days or even months are not enough time to change a lifetime of trauma. This is just a first step that will lead you to change. This requires patience and more patience with yourself and the process. Be kind to yourself. Gradually change will come.

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  Місяць тому

      @omarelizalde329, yes, for sure. As you may have heard in this video, what you shared here is consistent with the approach that Irene teaches.
      The 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up is intended to be an introduction to the nervous system work, and is intended to be repeated over and over, practicing the neurosensory exercises until they become automatic.

  • @thepaintscrapers6741
    @thepaintscrapers6741 Місяць тому

    Its not instant it's a course of time of talking to yourself and meditating on the exercises and allowing yourself time for it to sink in and to take root for the moment that it does BAM break through

  • @M-i-k-a-e-l
    @M-i-k-a-e-l Місяць тому +2

    Well, some people do. I have been speaking with esoteric folks around the world and it certainly happens, so it is absolutely false statement to rule that out.
    One famous example is Eckhart Tolle who turned from extreme life long dysregulation, not just to regulation but way deeper resolutions, in one single night.
    If you have not the deeper esoteric/spiritual knowledge, Irene, then you should humble yourself with your many absolute statements. There are levels of healing that can, by grace, work upon a human soul and by so doing affect physical and etheric fields immediately.
    From my research I must say that there is lots of authentic testimonies from particularly christian groups where these things occur.
    This said, the most common thing is that it takes time. No question about that.
    There is one more point to this, and it is that many mystic/esoteric teachers also remind us that we are not here to have physical and/or psychological health as our goal, but 'theosis', sanctification. These may go together but the former is in no way an indication of the latter.

    • @sallywalsh94
      @sallywalsh94 Місяць тому +9

      While I agree with what you're saying, I think there is also something to be said about healing in its wholeness, which is what I think Irene is talking about. Eckhart is an anomaly. If we seek to attain his state with this belief that we will have one big cathartic event, then we will be waiting a while. The goal isn't to achieve health and love, which many spiritual practices teach, but with Irene's work it's more so to understand what survival energies stand in the way of love and health and work with them to release them. That's the work that takes time. Not doubting people who have had these miraculous events, but the aim of this work is to leave no stone unturned on the journey back to self and autonomic regulation

    • @MonkeyMagicMonk
      @MonkeyMagicMonk Місяць тому +4

      Eckhart Toll has terrible posture and severe blocked energy. No matter what he says that cannot be solved in "one night".

    • @M-i-k-a-e-l
      @M-i-k-a-e-l Місяць тому

      @@sallywalsh94
      Hi Sally,
      thanks for responding. These topics are worthy of careful examinations and discussions in good faith, so I am happy to read your words.
      I do not know where the borderline to "anomaly" goes but my comment was intended to point out that things like that does happen and most often very few will ever know about it, except when those people becomes famous, like Eckhart, or Byron Katie, or Ramana Maharshi.
      I agree that no stone should be left unturned eventually, but I do not consider Irene's work as in any way coming from those depths of existence that authentic spiritual/esoteric schools comes from. It is obvious that neither she, nor her staff, have penetrated the very bedrocks of the ego's system so there are still those unpassed thresholds inside these people, as with 99,99% of us studying these programs. Just because of me saying this, I don't in any way, shape or form try to diminish the incredible importance of working with the health of our nervous system, fascia and energetic bodies. But a false statement should always be called out, and that's what I did. Irene often speaks in absolute terms about topics where she isn't in authority. That doesn't subtract any worth of her teaching where she does have authority. I have seen quite a few people responding in comments exactly about this so I hope she will heed these calls.
      I do not believe regulation and sanctification is one and the same process, although they share the same pathways most often. The body have zero intelligence on it's own since it doesn't exist in the first place. Consciousness forms, informs, sustains and eventually disintegrates the body. The body is neutral in itself and not to be neither a goal in itself nor something to avoid.

    • @M-i-k-a-e-l
      @M-i-k-a-e-l Місяць тому

      @@MonkeyMagicMonk Sure, terrible posture. Ramana Maharshi was even worse, but the most advanced mystics and spiritual teachers from all around the world unanimously regards him as one of the few real, true, saints ever to set foot upon earth. One shouldn't get to attached to stuff like posture or appearance. The heart is all, literally all.

    • @MonkeyMagicMonk
      @MonkeyMagicMonk Місяць тому +3

      ⁠​⁠@@M-i-k-a-e-l Trauma and fear will hold the neck down, and bad posture will put strain on the heart.. and vice versa. This is a somatic education 101. Tolle, Maharsi et all are subject to the same laws of nature as the rest of us. W Reich, FM Alexander, Feldenkrais, Rolf, Levine etc would I’m sure agree.

  • @teamTERF
    @teamTERF Місяць тому

    Does she really have to say this? This sounds like stuff you have to tell your 10 year old when they don't win their first soccer match 😆😆😆

  • @northstarearthstar
    @northstarearthstar Місяць тому