Pinkysil is the best! It is technically foodsafe once cured, it’s been used for making moulds for chocolate and sugarcraft stuff for years. Modelling chocolate is also amazing to make the walls of silicone moulds and to mount half of an object into when you’re making a two part mould. It’s like monster clay but way, way cheaper, you can make it yourself and it’s even reusable.
People are saying the same thing about them reca- "duplicating" this model plus there's files online and I think 3d printing it is probably safer if the model was created from scratch and not a scan of a stormbird. However this is kinda were things get muddy since they both a model from FW to do this whilst with 3d printing they didn't. but if your using it for personal use in some countries it is legal regardless of the laws in the manufacturers home country since you can't really enforce your laws on consumers in a nation without those laws who did the action there. Again very muddy and grey but honestly I think what theses dudes are doing is fine, especially if you take into account whether a person was going to buy additional models or not, in this case it would be a stretch to argue they would for parts on a diorama.
Haha Love it. "Inserts 90s Aussie copyright music" . You wouldn't steal a car. You wouldn't steal a movie. You wouldn't steal a Stormbird ..... Love it!
When making a mould I always mix up a small amount of silicone and then dribble that all over the model and use a stick to poke it into all the detail and then remove bubbles. Then, you can mix up all the silicone you need and just pour it in and not worry about air bubbles on the part your casting. It also helps to pour from fairly high up, to make the steam of silicone "thin" which pops air bubbles as you pour.
Glad others have mentioned Robert Tolone, definitely the guy for expert advice. I would straight off the bat say though that Dave would have had a much easier time vac pulling the silicone before pouring into the mould. Nice to see you guys having a bash at this sort of thing though, love it 👍
Bit of a hint for two part molds as well, add dowels or posts that touch the model to have a pour gate and air hole as well so you can place the molde together then pour through the hole allowing the air to escape through the other.
how on earth does a company full of geeks not have at least one massive box of miscellaneous lego knocking around at home? they will usually be found in the area set aside for, no i'm not getting rid of this i'll totally get around to doing something with this some day...
Best part is that they used the soundtrack of the unscippable "piracy is a crime" warning video that was displayed on old dvd's!!! (17:50) aaah, the details!
You should use the replica storm bird pieces as wreckage. The wing and engines could be strewn across a desert environment with scorch lines and dunes implying there is a ship under the sand
I get that time is valuable, however I think getting a slower curing silicon is probably a good idea for getting a better result. It also is more mistake proof if you need to mix more up, or take more time to use the vacuum chamber.
These are great! Though if you want to pull the cast out of the one piece mold easier, you should use the exacto to cut a slit down the side of it. It will create some flashing, which can be easily gotten rid of, but it can also be minimized by cutting along an edge of the original piece that you're pulling out.
I really feel like "Hobby" And crafts have came a lot closer over the last few years, and hopefully with that a lot more of the predigests in the hobby community
Every time I hear that "you wouldn't steal a car" music, I am delightfully reminded that the people behind the PSA did not, in fact, have permission to use that music for it.
So long as they're not selling it, they have every right to do this with their property. The same way you can make backups of digital files or take photographs of a painting you own even if it's of a copyrighted property. Anyone who tells you otherwise is anti-consumer as these are basic rights. You own the physical goods you buy, and what you do with them is your business.
Reproduction is one of the restrictions in copyright even if it is just for personal use, same way as if you made a digital copy of a movie but didn't buy a digital copy. This is especially true for model companies that make money by selling the model, if you want another copy you need to buy one. This is why there's so much legal questionality about some of the knockoff stuff made in China that is not by the original brand.
@@WolfRose11 except the knockoff ones from China that you’re talking about are actively hurting the copyright owner, because it is an illegal competitor in the market. These guys are not distributing stormbird models that will make other customers NOT buy a stormbird. You are just wrong or you are lying
@@WolfRose11 Unfortunately You are completely mistaken here. In fact for personal use You are free to make a digital copy of any file You legally own and no EULA or anything can suppress that right. Commercial/for sale, even making copies for Your friends is a completely different case.
@@Andriosza I guess that, if GW comes after them, Dave and Jazza can claim fair use under "satire". They were certainly throwing shade at Forge World, and they were funny 😂
Please include a crane or bridge in the Killteam board, connecting engineering catwalks, and a unit can use an action to flip a lever and move the bridge
.. it works for jazza becuse he has the lick of inanity on his side and it has been coming out more but you were verry amazing and that wat so trippy that you did the chocolate good job and thank you for being realy clear and mostly preperd! Loved how you did all the difrent tests
Hello! I discovered this channel a while ago and I am loving the content! I love the space bears and the sakura sept; Jazza's enthusiasm is simultaneously hilarious and infectious
So Jazza took my suggestion and watch the Robert Tolone videos apparently. And proceeded to do it his first time on camera... lol Oh Jazza, never change! Dave, these are DEFINITELY NOT 1 use molds. They are Cut Molds. Watch Robert Tolone here on YT. You should be vacuuming the silicone before pouring, and then pressure potting the molds after pouring.
You mad lads, you both did well considering it was the first time and this was a thoroughly entertaining watch. This was exceptionally similar to the sh*tsh*w I went through doing this to begin with and your comments at the end are on the money in that respect. As others have said, if you have time, go watch some Robert Tolone videos on re-cas...*cough* "DUPLICATING, you'll really love and appreciate the techniques and knowledge the man departs. Keep up the awesome work.
You need to make a jagged edge when your cutting into your mold. This will make the seal better when you reca… duplicate it. Also add in your pour spout and another spout to let air escape while your making your mold.
You have to put the petroleum jelly thick on the silicone. An Legos are amazing for those molds wish I could mail you some and some resin to make me a copy. Lol
At first I was wondering what all these comments are about with the GW legal team. Recasting models for personal use is absolutely allowed under copyright law. Then I remembered GW tried to sue someone for the use of the term "space marine" and I remembered their legal team are a bunch of clowns with no idea what is or isn't legal. So yeah might watch out.
You wouldn't download a Stormbird... would you? There are only a few cardnal rules of using long pieces of anything, and smacking your friends over the heads with them is essential. Love to see it within the first two minutes!
If this video proves anything its that GW would make a killing if they introduced a confectionary line of products. Bring on the Chocolate Marines!
...that would be SO spiky XD
OmG i would eat so many deamonettes
I want a Salamanders Easy Bake Oven.
@@Glamorous_Tiefling those are the spicy marines🤣
"Taste the Emperor's Mercy!"
As a professional mould maker I am hyped by your enthusiasm for moulding but horrified by your execution. Practice make perfect my dudes!
Ah yes, “duplicate”, as opposed to the other word we all know and love.
My first thought on seeing the thumbnail hahahahaha
You wouldn't "duplicate" a car....
“Multiply” 🤔… 😂
What
What's the joke?
@@caitlinabbott7895 Recast. Recasting. Thats the joke
I love how Jazza's chaos is so disturbing to Dave. He is so mellow and controlled while Jazza is like an over caffeinated squirrel.
I love how Dave is giving off the vibe of a tired dad trying to chaperone his insane child named Jazza
Pinkysil is the best!
It is technically foodsafe once cured, it’s been used for making moulds for chocolate and sugarcraft stuff for years. Modelling chocolate is also amazing to make the walls of silicone moulds and to mount half of an object into when you’re making a two part mould. It’s like monster clay but way, way cheaper, you can make it yourself and it’s even reusable.
In the age of 3d printing, this seems needlessly complex, but I salute you.
you cant really 3d print these, its technically not fully legal, plus gw is really tight with their assets
People are saying the same thing about them reca- "duplicating" this model plus there's files online and I think 3d printing it is probably safer if the model was created from scratch and not a scan of a stormbird. However this is kinda were things get muddy since they both a model from FW to do this whilst with 3d printing they didn't. but if your using it for personal use in some countries it is legal regardless of the laws in the manufacturers home country since you can't really enforce your laws on consumers in a nation without those laws who did the action there. Again very muddy and grey but honestly I think what theses dudes are doing is fine, especially if you take into account whether a person was going to buy additional models or not, in this case it would be a stretch to argue they would for parts on a diorama.
@Jack do it in pieces doesnt make it legal?
@@devoutmordexfollower5289 I have 3 of them. Fully 3d printed
@@alecmiller5296 isnt that patent infringement? gw would definitely not like that
Haha Love it. "Inserts 90s Aussie copyright music" . You wouldn't steal a car. You wouldn't steal a movie. You wouldn't steal a Stormbird ..... Love it!
When making a mould I always mix up a small amount of silicone and then dribble that all over the model and use a stick to poke it into all the detail and then remove bubbles. Then, you can mix up all the silicone you need and just pour it in and not worry about air bubbles on the part your casting. It also helps to pour from fairly high up, to make the steam of silicone "thin" which pops air bubbles as you pour.
Glad others have mentioned Robert Tolone, definitely the guy for expert advice. I would straight off the bat say though that Dave would have had a much easier time vac pulling the silicone before pouring into the mould. Nice to see you guys having a bash at this sort of thing though, love it 👍
The answer is yes it is incredibly easy to recast stuff in resin using a silicon mould.
I am in the middle of "duplicating" My old metal thunderhawk, and this video just gave me the inspiration to continue!
It is very easy to duplicate stuff ;)
Many many times using a silicone mould ;)
I love how Dave explained the monster clay as something made just for two part molds
2:46 I was caught so off guard with the little "holla" in the background! THE SOPHISTICATED JOKES ARE APPRICIATED!!!
I heard "thats what ahe said" lmao
Yes@@thedyingmeme6
I feel like you two embody the dichotomy of chaos and order in your approaches.
Bit of a hint for two part molds as well, add dowels or posts that touch the model to have a pour gate and air hole as well so you can place the molde together then pour through the hole allowing the air to escape through the other.
This was fantastic! Great stuff Dave! Jazza was good too... ;)
how on earth does a company full of geeks not have at least one massive box of miscellaneous lego knocking around at home? they will usually be found in the area set aside for, no i'm not getting rid of this i'll totally get around to doing something with this some day...
Best part is that they used the soundtrack of the unscippable "piracy is a crime" warning video that was displayed on old dvd's!!! (17:50) aaah, the details!
You should use the replica storm bird pieces as wreckage. The wing and engines could be strewn across a desert environment with scorch lines and dunes implying there is a ship under the sand
The first few minutes is just Dave thinking, "Please just let me do these videos with Jenn."
The "That's what she said"s in the Background killed me
17:50 - Brilliant, a wave of nostalgia mixed with IT crowd.
Oh that was great! Now you can make a whole warehouse full of parts for a diorama or game board.
I get that time is valuable, however I think getting a slower curing silicon is probably a good idea for getting a better result.
It also is more mistake proof if you need to mix more up, or take more time to use the vacuum chamber.
The "They stole a Stormbird" reference made my week
Using silicone and resin to make extras of GW models is awesome!!
And GW has absolutely no issue with this at all
... Honest
The "thats what she said" at around 2:45 😂😂😂
These are great! Though if you want to pull the cast out of the one piece mold easier, you should use the exacto to cut a slit down the side of it. It will create some flashing, which can be easily gotten rid of, but it can also be minimized by cutting along an edge of the original piece that you're pulling out.
10:14 "that's what she said"
as in you can hear it quietly in the background. Nice lil touch that I appreciated
I can only imagine Robert Tolone crying as he watches this
Lucky I was wearing my headphones when you were commenting on sticking that piece of silicon in the mold. I would've missed it otherwise. *wink*
Thats what she said
You need vents in your molds so that the air is not trapped inside.
Vacuum pot pulls all the o2 out
I love watching people do no research into something they want to use many times.
2:47 the “that’s what she said” lol
I really feel like "Hobby" And crafts have came a lot closer over the last few years, and hopefully with that a lot more of the predigests in the hobby community
I feel like cold casting would work really well for the engines. Get a metallic finish right out of the mould.
Imagine if they make an entire Stormbird out of chocolate, and eat it...
Every time I hear that "you wouldn't steal a car" music, I am delightfully reminded that the people behind the PSA did not, in fact, have permission to use that music for it.
Don't forget to clean the fresh mould release off the original parts
😆
Being from forgeworld it was probably already dripping with mould release anyway.
Really enjoyed this video! Well done.
Jazza + unsafe liquid chemicals = great time!
You should be pulling your vacuum before you pour, and pour from a high distance with a thin pour. This will insure no new bubbles show up after
"They stole a stormbird" -An Ultramarine captain referring to a group of Blood Ravens
So long as they're not selling it, they have every right to do this with their property. The same way you can make backups of digital files or take photographs of a painting you own even if it's of a copyrighted property. Anyone who tells you otherwise is anti-consumer as these are basic rights. You own the physical goods you buy, and what you do with them is your business.
Reproduction is one of the restrictions in copyright even if it is just for personal use, same way as if you made a digital copy of a movie but didn't buy a digital copy. This is especially true for model companies that make money by selling the model, if you want another copy you need to buy one. This is why there's so much legal questionality about some of the knockoff stuff made in China that is not by the original brand.
@@WolfRose11 except the knockoff ones from China that you’re talking about are actively hurting the copyright owner, because it is an illegal competitor in the market. These guys are not distributing stormbird models that will make other customers NOT buy a stormbird. You are just wrong or you are lying
@@WolfRose11 wrong here. you can reproduce your property for your own use, but not sell to others.
@@WolfRose11 Unfortunately You are completely mistaken here. In fact for personal use You are free to make a digital copy of any file You legally own and no EULA or anything can suppress that right. Commercial/for sale, even making copies for Your friends is a completely different case.
@@Andriosza I guess that, if GW comes after them, Dave and Jazza can claim fair use under "satire". They were certainly throwing shade at Forge World, and they were funny 😂
About 1:45 in I am screaming Jazza, too much caffeine! Dave, hair protection when working with chemicals and a kinetic learner beside you!
Gareth with the "that's what she said" off camera 😂
Or was that Rob?
I really hope that silicone is food safe and you cleaned the mold release off.
Dave: That's not safe for youtube
Me: *Bursts out laughing* I see what you mean.
Pour on one side so you push the air out of any crevices in stead of spreading out your silicone on the bottom.. ;)
Alittle bit of air from a compresser removes parts nice and easy
When you do plaster casts, you can brush on resin. It will soak in and harden and it wont chip or flake.
seeing these videos all till the end are a treat
17:51 Blood ravens be like
Probably
they do steal things?
The quiet "that's what she said" 😂😂
Please include a crane or bridge in the Killteam board, connecting engineering catwalks, and a unit can use an action to flip a lever and move the bridge
lol still better than most Forgeworld models
.. it works for jazza becuse he has the lick of inanity on his side and it has been coming out more but you were verry amazing and that wat so trippy that you did the chocolate good job and thank you for being realy clear and mostly preperd! Loved how you did all the difrent tests
Anybody hearing gareth’s “that’s what she said “ hahahaha so funny !
They stole a storm bird edit broke me. Fascinating process to watch ,seems an authentic beginners experience.
Here in the USA they have generic legos that you can buy at discount stores like Dollar General etc.
Hahahaha the piracy song GG - Would you download a Stormbird ?
You should do a sqaud of terminators maybe someone speed paints normal terminator and chaos terminator
Games workshop are gonna love this
lol
Hello! I discovered this channel a while ago and I am loving the content! I love the space bears and the sakura sept; Jazza's enthusiasm is simultaneously hilarious and infectious
I ♡ Dave. He's the son I always wanted but couldn't have.
awesome, not sure how the liquid clay works, were parts cut out?
meanwhile in the GW headquarters: can we duplicate the cease and desist order we used last time on that animation guys on yt?
You must now make a full Gummy Bear Force One
Once again ! Please watch Robert Tolone videos on casting.... it will blow your minds and open a huge array of techniques
16:57 You can probably cast a model out of wet cat litter and it'd come out better than your average Forge World model.
Oh, yeah! Within the hour!
Just watching this while the video is still up 😆
So Jazza took my suggestion and watch the Robert Tolone videos apparently. And proceeded to do it his first time on camera... lol Oh Jazza, never change! Dave, these are DEFINITELY NOT 1 use molds. They are Cut Molds. Watch Robert Tolone here on YT. You should be vacuuming the silicone before pouring, and then pressure potting the molds after pouring.
Recast in chocolate sounds amazing
Jazzas backkkkk !!!$$!$$$$!!!!!
I'm picturing in my head the chinese recasters with a paternal smile while reading that title...
Put spacers in your two-part molds. Or else you risk your castings not lining up right.
Pinky-Sil.. FTW 🙌
HAHAHHAHA; Gorgeous use of the Anti-Movie-Piracy music..!!!
ive been waiting ages for this its been killing me since
You mad lads, you both did well considering it was the first time and this was a thoroughly entertaining watch. This was exceptionally similar to the sh*tsh*w I went through doing this to begin with and your comments at the end are on the money in that respect. As others have said, if you have time, go watch some Robert Tolone videos on re-cas...*cough* "DUPLICATING, you'll really love and appreciate the techniques and knowledge the man departs. Keep up the awesome work.
Let's send our thoughts and prayers down to Australia, so that Dave's barber makes a quick recovery and can go back to cutting hair
You need to make a jagged edge when your cutting into your mold. This will make the seal better when you reca… duplicate it. Also add in your pour spout and another spout to let air escape while your making your mold.
You have to put the petroleum jelly thick on the silicone. An Legos are amazing for those molds wish I could mail you some and some resin to make me a copy. Lol
Fun fact, you can buy specific sized lego. I use 2x4 but 2x4, 2x6, 2x8 would be nice to stock up on
At first I was wondering what all these comments are about with the GW legal team. Recasting models for personal use is absolutely allowed under copyright law. Then I remembered GW tried to sue someone for the use of the term "space marine" and I remembered their legal team are a bunch of clowns with no idea what is or isn't legal. So yeah might watch out.
GW lawyers are drop podding in
Interesting . Thank you.
I feel a GW lawyer stirring from their coffin right now
If u put red silecone in a cup and white in a cub why both in a new cub insted of red on top of the white cup then 1 less dirty cup ?
Didn't we used to put air vents in more complex moulds to avoid bubbles and voids?
I cast pewter in pinkysil works great.
Forget Vacuum chambers. Any tiny air bubbles trapped in the mould will expand. If you dont want air bubbles use a pressure pot.
GWs lawyers are writing their letter ;)
Wonderful video as always!
You wouldn't download a Stormbird... would you?
There are only a few cardnal rules of using long pieces of anything, and smacking your friends over the heads with them is essential. Love to see it within the first two minutes!
I can't wait to see it complete, see you guys next time. :D
How the comment section should be: You shouldn't make molds you should only buy official products
Current comment section: CHOCOLATES
What time is it and who are you two?
Love the editor note”why do you hate me dave”