@@richboy900 *it's Ferrari and Aston Martin who are honest about horsepower. For the last two decades, both manufacturers' cars have produced claimed crank horsepower on the dyno. If the world wants to switch to wheel horsepower as the new standard, that's fine, but don't blame Ferrari, Aston Martin, et al. for using the standard that's been around for 100 years.
Steve Sutcliffe is such a superb reviewer, I wish we could see more of his great driving. He entertains in a similar way to Chris Harris and has such a soothing voice :)
@@5thgearouttahere That's because he's humble. Harris is a vastly superior and far more entertaining car journalist. His insights and descriptions of cars are second to none, and he's not a bad driver either.
BeyerT1 I can’t stand the guy and would watch anything else presented by Sutcliffe or Catchpole any day of the week. I’d even put Dickie Meaden, Jethro Bovingdon and Harry Metcalfe above Harris. But its just a persobal prefference because I can’t stand shouty personas.
Probably a bit faster but again, the F8 pista will be topping it out as usual. Don't forget the F8 is the true competitor to the 720s since the 488 gtb was the direct competitor to the 650s
@@nik7bkh965 that's probably debatable as the F8 is at least two full years newer than the 720S. Not necessarily saying you're wrong, just that the two companies release schedules don't really line up with direct competitiors. (F8 =2019/2020, 720S =2017, 488= 2015, 650S = 2014. Though the 650S was really more of an updated version of 2011s 12C than a properly new car)
@@kiwidan2271 you are probably right. The release schedules of the trackfocused mid engined V8 cars of both ferrari and McLaren are too far apart, that their cars can be compared in a fair way. However I still think it is "fairer" to compare the 650s with the 488gtb (and therefore 675lt with the 488 pista) and the 720s with the F8, because it Makes more sense when putting the time lines of all models of each brand next to each other. Now it's mclarens move to beat the 488 pista with the 765lt, because if that's not happening, then Ferrari is the clear winner overall.
The Pista loses to the 720 s in a drag race. Ferraris always have been slower than Mclarens in the past years with the same power to weight ratio. It's a shame what Ferrari has become
Depreciation is McLaren's fault. They are obsessed with releasing new cars at a far faster rate than anybody else, so that they can always be the quickest, but they are killing their own market.
Crazy that the 720s is just to complete with a normal 488 and is faster than a pista on the street and arguably as fast on track. The 765lt is going to be insane
So the direct competitor in its class it's the 488 right? So shouldn't the pista be up against the 765lt when its released? Mpt to mention it was harder compound tyres.
Great video! Just a thought, could you in the future put the speed the car is travelling up on the screen? It would add a extra level of interest. The viewer could see the speed into and exiting corners and v-max on the straights.
Who gives a shit, the Pista is the track focused model and is 10 years old, the Mclaren has already one as it comes within tenths of it on WAY LESS aggressive tires. The 765LT will literally destroy the Pista when it’s released at the end of the year
Go see the french Motorsport magazine supercar comparison from last year for apples-to-apples. All cars had the same tires, same driver, same track conditions, and the Pista easily beat everything on Magni-Cours, by huge margins. 720S and Huracan Perfromante were the only ones remotely close, within 1-2 seconds per lap, while cars like the GT3 RS, AMG GT-R, Corvette ZO6, etc. were like 5-6 seconds per lap slower than the Pista. And they were all factory cars supported by mechanics and engineers. Pista was just lent to the magazine by some rich dude, zero support, drove up, wiped the field, went home. People underestimate just how capable Ferrari's are, for some reason, a lot of people still have this opinion that they're poser cars for fanboys who want to show off, when in fact, dynamically and in terms of raw performance, they've been the benchmark for more than decade now.
Great lap. Maybe I'm the only person interested in this, but given the sizing on the 720S you could perform a tire test with 3 different tires: Goodyear - EAGLE F1 SUPERCAR 3R Michelin - Sport Cup 2 Pirelli - P Zero Trofeo R All are available in the OEM size, and they run the full gamut of tread wears: 180 (M), 100 (GY), 60 (P).
How about adding some telemetry? Speeds, G -forces etc. GoPro camera's have this feature built in. Allows one to truly appreciate the abilities of these cars
Boom way to go McLaren socking it to the Italians again. Stock vanilla standard car as good as the lightweight track edition. 765LT will blow 488 pistake away but I would still have a 675LT spider myself
I'm a Ferrari fan but I'm sure the 720s will be as fast if not faster than the Pista, if fitted with stickier tires. Steve, you're one of the last True Drivers around YT. Keep on!
Many parameters can change this result as the track conditions, the weather, the tyres and the shape of the driver, in short, I have a big doubt about this final classification especially about such a small time gap.
the more i see of the 720, the less impressed i am with the P1. The 720 is just so beautiful compared to the P1 and almost as fast if not faster, without any hybrid tech. Looking back i feel the P1 was inflated and hyped a lot, not only in between the holy trinity (always liked the 918 way more), but compared to other supercars as well.
MrSaintRaptor P1 is as fast as 918 and Laf if not more , and for a 2012/13 that was the hypercars level ,”the problem “is that the technology is advancing so quick these days
Done a 1.09.8 in my Spire GT3 sports 1000 race car. A048s, no wings, no diffusers, standard cbr1000rr engine 170hp at the wheels, and a hell of a lot cheaper than anything on the Evo leaderboard. Video of the lap my channel amongst many others.
I mean Steve is one of the best reviewers. Along with Chris Harris, and Dickie Medan. Evo also has the best magazine too. EVO INVEST IN YOUR UA-cam CHANNEL CONSISTENCY.
This video has just come 16 hours ago and I am still wondering why are they comparing the 720 s with 488 pista instead they should compare it with F8 tributo, as it is a new car or the F8 will be competing with 765 LT?
This is very interesting! The 720s is already a monster and so will the 765lt but what's interesting is Ferrari is coming out with the SF90 Stradale and a track version of the F8 Tributo soon enough so it'll be interesting to see how the numbers stack up.
You guys at EVO need to start uploading regularly again, miss the high production quality and expert opinion from journalists there.
Hey silly question, but where did u find your picture 😅
Costly
@J0B0 not really
7 seconds into this lap and I have goosebumps all over me. 😳 God I love that car.
Looking forward to the 765LT lap! Good to have the evo videos back!
Mclaren still claiming “only” 710hp on this car, dynos show 780-790 when converted
Thats usually normal with german manufacturers. It's usually Ferrari amd Aston Martin who lie about their horsepower
@@richboy900 *it's Ferrari and Aston Martin who are honest about horsepower. For the last two decades, both manufacturers' cars have produced claimed crank horsepower on the dyno. If the world wants to switch to wheel horsepower as the new standard, that's fine, but don't blame Ferrari, Aston Martin, et al. for using the standard that's been around for 100 years.
Its because mclaren quote wheel horsepower unlike everyone else as that the only number that matters....
Not this time. The 488 pista has been dynoed putting out around 640whp. The 720s has dynoed between 690-700whp.
And still slower than Ferrari 488 Pista!!!!!!
Steve Sutcliffe is such a superb reviewer, I wish we could see more of his great driving. He entertains in a similar way to Chris Harris and has such a soothing voice :)
Steve is just the best.
No Chris Harris is the best. Period.
@@ImMikoFreako Mate even Harris says Sutcliffe is untouchable.
5thgearouttahere in what way?
@@5thgearouttahere That's because he's humble. Harris is a vastly superior and far more entertaining car journalist. His insights and descriptions of cars are second to none, and he's not a bad driver either.
BeyerT1 I can’t stand the guy and would watch anything else presented by Sutcliffe or Catchpole any day of the week.
I’d even put Dickie Meaden, Jethro Bovingdon and Harry Metcalfe above Harris.
But its just a persobal prefference because I can’t stand shouty personas.
Definitely we need more evo LEADERBOARD! Cheers 🍻
The 720s set the benchmark for the supercar league imo
Mega lap. The best I’ve heard a modern McLaren sound since the P1.
But both still can't beat the sound of Mclaren F1.
The 765LT will be an absolute beast
And most uncomfortable thing in the world....
@@campkira not a mclaren mate
Sadly it is a mclaren lmao 20% down in price in the first year with multiple quality issues🤣🙈
campkira Well, it’s built for the track so i’d hope so...
campkira rubbish.
Omg his voice is like butter.
I call it the Attenborough of cars.
How about my voice?
@@osamabinladen824 *run away*
I have to agree with you. It is definitely a competitive advantage he holds over others!
@@board.member who is the voice?
Thank you Steve and Evo. I'm still subscribed, here and to the mag, and hope you continue delivering great stuff and enjoying it as you do. Keep safe
I am really looking forward to a Leaderboard test of the new version of the BAC Mono. Please!!!!!!
When the world starts turning again it's on the list.
I love this reviewer he really loves to drive quickly and you can see his enjoyment.
Love these leaderboard vids! Thanks for posting
Steve can read me even quantum physics with his deep, bassy voice and I will love it.
Pista too, is Ferrari's track variant and technically the 720S isn't. The upcoming 765LT will be very interesting I'm sure!
Evo videography is amazing
Lexus LFA double octave exhaust trick!! This McLaren sounds amazing is this a refresh by Mclaren to new cars? Sounds sooo good 😁
newcareachyear let’s hope the LTs sound like this!
If it is this fast, I can't imagine how bonkers quick the 765LT is going to be.
Probably a bit faster but again, the F8 pista will be topping it out as usual. Don't forget the F8 is the true competitor to the 720s since the 488 gtb was the direct competitor to the 650s
@@nik7bkh965 that's probably debatable as the F8 is at least two full years newer than the 720S. Not necessarily saying you're wrong, just that the two companies release schedules don't really line up with direct competitiors. (F8 =2019/2020, 720S =2017, 488= 2015, 650S = 2014. Though the 650S was really more of an updated version of 2011s 12C than a properly new car)
@@kiwidan2271 you are probably right. The release schedules of the trackfocused mid engined V8 cars of both ferrari and McLaren are too far apart, that their cars can be compared in a fair way. However I still think it is "fairer" to compare the 650s with the 488gtb (and therefore 675lt with the 488 pista) and the 720s with the F8, because it Makes more sense when putting the time lines of all models of each brand next to each other.
Now it's mclarens move to beat the 488 pista with the 765lt, because if that's not happening, then Ferrari is the clear winner overall.
The Pista loses to the 720 s in a drag race. Ferraris always have been slower than Mclarens in the past years with the same power to weight ratio.
It's a shame what Ferrari has become
@@User-th6yy ferrari still the best, it's not a shame, because i don't think that when you own one of those cars you mind to Do drag races
Short and sweet and like Steve says stay safe everybody :)
Yes, definitely interested to see how it will fair with Trofeo R tires.
765LT is going to kill that time
So....if you say it's not a fair competitor to the 488 pista using the trofeo tires, why you didn't use those trofeos on the 720 to match??
Too bad they aren't selling any due some reliability and depreciation.
It would be hand down the best on the market
Depreciation is McLaren's fault. They are obsessed with releasing new cars at a far faster rate than anybody else, so that they can always be the quickest, but they are killing their own market.
My boss has one. In a wonderful clear gray almost ice colour
That gets the power to the ground so smoothly for being so ferocious! Huge power means nothing if it spins or upsets the chassis.
The downshifts sound awesome 🔥
With the 765lt right around the corner we are a bit late aren’t we?
Looking forward to the speed tail and 765lt lap comparison
Good old Stevie boy, one of the best car reviewer out there.
Crazy that the 720s is just to complete with a normal 488 and is faster than a pista on the street and arguably as fast on track. The 765lt is going to be insane
Ferrari's whole team was there when you tested the 488 Pista. Not to mention the stickier compound tires the 488 had.
rforracing @ they send one dude and they didn’t even care when the track was wet, they knew it would be faster
I think the most impressive part about that list of times is how competitive the GT3RS is with how much less power it has compared to other top times.
Always great videos. Perhaps waiting to accelerate carrying in a bit more speed and getting direction would take a few tenths off!
Get this back on the track with Trofeo Rs and it will quite possibly demolish the competition.
On of the greatest supercar ever built...
Thank you, Mr Sutcliffe
So the direct competitor in its class it's the 488 right? So shouldn't the pista be up against the 765lt when its released? Mpt to mention it was harder compound tyres.
Great video! Just a thought, could you in the future put the speed the car is travelling up on the screen? It would add a extra level of interest. The viewer could see the speed into and exiting corners and v-max on the straights.
Steve + McLaren= Legend
The sound is epic!
I think it has novetic exhaust or some other aftermarket exhaust
Kanishk jain nope
Yep and the spider factory sports exhaust sounds even better!
Too bad this test wasn't done on Trofeo Rs, as it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison with the Pista.
Who gives a shit, the Pista is the track focused model and is 10 years old, the Mclaren has already one as it comes within tenths of it on WAY LESS aggressive tires. The 765LT will literally destroy the Pista when it’s released at the end of the year
Go see the french Motorsport magazine supercar comparison from last year for apples-to-apples. All cars had the same tires, same driver, same track conditions, and the Pista easily beat everything on Magni-Cours, by huge margins. 720S and Huracan Perfromante were the only ones remotely close, within 1-2 seconds per lap, while cars like the GT3 RS, AMG GT-R, Corvette ZO6, etc. were like 5-6 seconds per lap slower than the Pista. And they were all factory cars supported by mechanics and engineers. Pista was just lent to the magazine by some rich dude, zero support, drove up, wiped the field, went home. People underestimate just how capable Ferrari's are, for some reason, a lot of people still have this opinion that they're poser cars for fanboys who want to show off, when in fact, dynamically and in terms of raw performance, they've been the benchmark for more than decade now.
@@derbigpr500 when the track focused Pista goes against the track focused 765lt, we can revisit this conversation.
Great lap. Maybe I'm the only person interested in this, but given the sizing on the 720S you could perform a tire test with 3 different tires:
Goodyear - EAGLE F1 SUPERCAR 3R
Michelin - Sport Cup 2
Pirelli - P Zero Trofeo R
All are available in the OEM size, and they run the full gamut of tread wears: 180 (M), 100 (GY), 60 (P).
How about adding some telemetry? Speeds, G -forces etc. GoPro camera's have this feature built in. Allows one to truly appreciate the abilities of these cars
Boom way to go McLaren socking it to the Italians again. Stock vanilla standard car as good as the lightweight track edition. 765LT will blow 488 pistake away but I would still have a 675LT spider myself
Nice one. Enjoyed that 👍👌
More videos please EVO 👏
Why not trying the car on Trofeos to leave the guessing out?
I really wonder what is the issue if any with this car on Trofeos with MC spec...
Nice vid. Not done a Nissan GTR 35 round this track? Would be interested to see how that stacks against these or GR Supra.
That 488 Pista is a monster
Evo is the type of channel you always forget exists when someone asks you what car channels you watch.
I'm a Ferrari fan but I'm sure the 720s will be as fast if not faster than the Pista, if fitted with stickier tires.
Steve, you're one of the last True Drivers around YT. Keep on!
Cheers, Sooty.. Stay well, mate
Off topic, but how do the GT2 RS and GT3 RS have exactly the same lap time?
Not sure who the videographer and editor were for this video, but this is Neil Carey good in places.
That’s the perfect spec on this car. 🔥 White on black
One of the best testers.
Stev is the man 👍👏
Production is on fire!
My opinion is very important And I choose 720s as the supercar of the past decade
Sound coming from speakers or exhaust
Was not expecting this to be slower than the GT3 RS, even with those tires :O
Cannot wait to see what the 765LT does
Beautiful ! Thank you.
Cheers 4 sending 👍
The McLarens always sound like the mufflers they use are very restrictive (hissing). Would be great to test drive one with an aftermarket system.
Nice Portuguese reference! Bonkers supercar!
any chance to put stickier rubber to match pista setup?
please test the SVj
Too bad about that engine sound. They need help from AMG to get that 4.0L sounding better. Curious what this puts down with some cup tires
Such a pure driving machine.
exhaust cant be stock....sounds amazing......
Many parameters can change this result as the track conditions, the weather, the tyres and the shape of the driver, in short, I have a big doubt about this final classification especially about such a small time gap.
Which track is that one?
the more i see of the 720, the less impressed i am with the P1. The 720 is just so beautiful compared to the P1 and almost as fast if not faster, without any hybrid tech. Looking back i feel the P1 was inflated and hyped a lot, not only in between the holy trinity (always liked the 918 way more), but compared to other supercars as well.
MrSaintRaptor P1 is as fast as 918 and Laf if not more , and for a 2012/13 that was the hypercars level ,”the problem “is that the technology is advancing so quick these days
Did that one have a non standard exhaust?
pretty much every Mac came with a sports exhaust....
Thank you, Sir.
765LT on Trofeo R please!
Done a 1.09.8 in my Spire GT3 sports 1000 race car. A048s, no wings, no diffusers, standard cbr1000rr engine 170hp at the wheels, and a hell of a lot cheaper than anything on the Evo leaderboard. Video of the lap my channel amongst many others.
I mean Steve is one of the best reviewers. Along with Chris Harris, and Dickie Medan. Evo also has the best magazine too. EVO INVEST IN YOUR UA-cam CHANNEL CONSISTENCY.
Goose bumps! Sounds epic
Pista + Mc720s= ♥
Nice video ! Like it so much
Looked like a lap after very limited pratice. Much time in it. Indeed with more suitable tyres.
cant wait to see what the c8 z06/zr1 will do D;
The black hood makes the 720S look extra menacing
812 superfast and f12 tdf please
Why do it w/out the Rs
The UA-cam auto captions were translating the soundtrack as [Music].... Hmmm.
Fairly accurate.
very fast for a car that im guessing will be cheaper than a m3 by the end of the year with all the new models mclaren bring out every 5 min
Joe Tee how many models did Ferrari release last year? Hm?
@@75KoDe exactly but don't waste your time with fanboys or haters lol
Sounds so damn good. EVs are the future, but man, they gotta do something about the aural aspect of them. True motoring is a full sensory experience.
Steve is the living legend
It looks great in white color.
This video has just come 16 hours ago and I am still wondering why are they comparing the 720 s with 488 pista instead they should compare it with F8 tributo, as it is a new car or the F8 will be competing with 765 LT?
Probably according to their release dates
The 765LT will blow the Pista away
Turn the turbos up on the Pista then itd probably still rape the 765LT.
@@1010thechamp so it can't take the 765lt in stock form?
Sf90 stradale will rip the 765lt
@@ShadowGodOfDarkness No but then the 765LT's reliability will be piss poor so it might as well be a tuned car.
@@matzepizzaheld8541 Yes it will tear the 765LT into nothing.
Wow. So impressive
Would love to see 765 LT performance on the same track.
This is very interesting! The 720s is already a monster and so will the 765lt but what's interesting is Ferrari is coming out with the SF90 Stradale and a track version of the F8 Tributo soon enough so it'll be interesting to see how the numbers stack up.
I need a 720s in my life!
Should had been with the trofeo r they are equals to the cup 2.
Imagine it on trofeo R tyres It would most likely beat the Pista if not come equal with it. What a beast !
Put Trofeo R on the Pista and teh Pista will be even faster!!
@@MarcSob22 .It has been proved in tests that cup2rs are superior to trofeo r
@@MarcSob22 at least the 720s is comfortable and made with better quality than the pista.
@@MarcSob22 lol the cup2 r are significantly faster than the trofeo r
Sam Fleming 720 quality? Lol