Great review, perhaps you could put a small amount of plastic tubing around the contact points on the kickstand to prevent noise (rattling) and wear produced whilst riding over bumpy surfaces! I've subscribed. Thanks for sharing the very informative review, it's appreciated. Safe riding.
Thanks for this informative and comprehensive review. I am looking to get the GT rohloff Supercharger 2, so an unbiased review of a Riese and Mueller bike is really helpful. I am 184cm tall and reasonably strong, so the weight doesn’t put me off (even though I am getting into later middle age). It would certainly be a factor for my wife though as it would make it difficult for her to have to muscle around at slow speeds.
Great to know the video was helpful. Can I ask why you're looking at the Supercharger 2 instead of the Superdelite? The dual suspension seems like a great feature to me. Cheers!
Ruirodtube Good question. Price is a big consideration. Plus I like the higher load limit of the Supercharger 2 rear rack. I like the simplicity of the hard tail design. Having said that, I have an open mind. I still have an open mind. If the Super Delite is clearly superior I will still consider it. Have you ridden both and how did you think they compare? I want to buy an ebike that I can own and enjoy for a long time, which is why I am drawn to the Riese and Muller. Which is w
@Bruiser 64 I just traded my 2018 Supercharger in on the Super Delite Rohloff. I highly recommend the Supercharger. R&M can only improve on the 2020 model. The Cane Creek Thudbuster should be on the latest Supercharger: I have 2 spinal injuries & I rode 5,900km on the Supercharger with NO issues, I highly rate it.
@@holyfox94 Hi, I got the Riese and Muller GT Rohloff Supercharger 2. I have had it since August 2020. I have no regrets whatsoever. It really has the feel of a premium product. It is comfortable, stable, and reliable. Everything works really well on it. I am pleased I bought the dual battery version as I never experience range anxiety. If you can afford one, I really recommend them.
Just ordered one with Rohloff. The Rohloff was a must because I live in very steep terrain. I don’t know if I should’ve ordered the Superdelite.🤔 I didn’t because I don’t like the wobbly feeling of a Fully.
Very nice video, and great it's not from a dealership or the company! Thanks for taking the time to create an independent review! Did they design their bikes yet so that you can have forward power and not have to peddle? Is there regenerative braking?
Hi, thanks for the compliment. I'm glad you liked it. I always look for independent reviews before making such an expensive purchase. I'm hoping this will help future buyers. This e-bike requires pedalling to benefit from assistance. It doesn't have regenerative braking. Cheers!
Congrats for this new bike. How much would you rate the comfort ? Comfortable or Very comfortable ! It’s a good review however I am a bit disappointed. You said your first impression of the bike is quite good. I was expecting very good instead. Let’s see what your appreciation will be in the long run. I am waiting for a Delite GT touring.
Thanks! I didn't rate it very good because of the heavy weight and because of the not-so-comfortable saddle. I also don't quite see how I'll be able to carry something on the forward rack without it interfering with the headlight (because the headlight turns with the handle bar while the rack doesn't). I believe the Delite will be a better choice if you don't want to go for very long rides. Let me know what you think about it. Cheers!
Hello, I have studied the question a lot before ordering the bike and I still have second thoughts with my purchase ! With the HS version there are no others options than the Super Delite. Your range will be limited with the Delite HS version. Regarding the front rack, I am going to fit it with a MIK adapter and a BASIL trunk bag ( 7-15 liters). Anyway the load is limited to 5 kgs on the front rack.
This is my dream electric bike (one day maybe!). Incidentally, given that it’s an electric bike, you seem to be putting in a lot of effort riding it - are you trying to conserve energy?
Hi Rob, I'm not trying to conserve energy but once the bike goes beyond 25 km/h the electric assistance stops and you have to keep it rolling exclusively on your muscle strength. This is indeed a dream bike and if you can get it I'd highly recommend it. I keep my car in the garage more and more, which saves me money. Cheers!
omarmerle not yet but I have only ridden less than 400 kms on them. I have the same Super-Moto-X tires on another bike and they’re very puncture resistant.
Congrats on your new ebike! I enjoyed your video and your remarks about your new Superdelite. But you sounded surprised that your new bike is so heavy, as if you never test rode one before you purchased. Is that true? Also, you rode through some very beautiful countryside with superb cycle paths! Where do you live? I wish we had such bike paths here in California like you have! My wife and I ordered Superdelites a few weeks ago (after you did), and we are still waiting for them to arrive! We are very excited! Anyway, I wish you many, many happy kilometers ahead with your new ride! Best wishes!
Thanks! I was surprised indeed because I couldn't take a test ride before ordering it. The local supplier was closed for weeks due to the current pandemic and when it opened it didn't have the newest model for testing. Furthermore for financial reasons they don't keep a stock of expensive bikes for testing. I was able to hop on a regular Superdelite to test frame size but I couldn't take it out of the shop.
I live in Luxembourg where the cycle paths are indeed spectacular. That day I rode 130 kms almost exclusively on cycle paths like that and there are a whole lot more like them around the country. A truly great resource! We have shorter summers compared to California but when the sun is out people are out enjoying the countryside. I hope you get your Superdelites soon. I took delivery of mine earlier than expected but I'm not sure how fast they ship them to America. I hope Cargolux will fly a couple of them to you soon. Let me know when you get them!
They told me one and a half month but I got it sooner. I'm not sure about the delays for the USA. Mine cost approx 7.000 €. If you order the Rohloff option, plus GX and so on it can get a lot more expensive. Which model and options do you have in mind?
mwj5368 - I’m in California, and I was told 1.5 months. Usually it take 3 months here, but my bike dealer is paying extra for express (air) shipping from Germany. Superdelite prices vary considerably depending on what you get. You can confirm a price at the R&M website based on the features you want.
Thank you for your reviews. Very helpful. Do you know about the compatibility of the bosch smartphone hub with superdelite (45kmh, rohloff el. Shift)? My dealer in Switzerland said, it doesn‘t work. Is there an alternative to integrate the samrtphone?
Hi, You’re welcome! I’m glad they help. Unfortunately the SmartphoneHub isn’t compatible with the electronic shifting of the Rohloff E-14. If you want to have the SmartphoneHub option, like I did, you must select either the Vario or the Touring versions. I’m very happy with the Vario. It’s a step-less CVT (constant variable transmission) with reduced “gear” range of 380% but it works fine on most roads. Cheers!
@@ruirodtube I have the Delite GT Rohloff. It’s also my bike of choice when I go for 3 or 4 days’ rides. Mainly on paved roads ( departementales ) and trails. Very good for exploring a region. I do a mixture of railways and bike trips.
Good question. Each bike is better in its specific task. You can't ride on rocky/muddy terrain uphill on the Superdelite and you can't ride cycle paths for 150 kms on the Cube. It's like a dirt bike vs a Harley Davidson.
I'm just using a GoPro camera. The sound changes when the wind affects the built-in microphone. I believe the camera has some sort of filter that removes the wind noises but then also alters the recording of the voice. The alternative is that I wear a separate microphone and I don't want to make it that complicated. Cheers
that's the only drawback in these E bikes.. the weight. It is way too heavy for a petite woman like my wife to even attempt to lift it into our home when she gets home, other than that they are very cool.. R&M rule!
The Delite is lighter and the centre of gravity is lower too. Let her try that one. P.S. Just to be clear, the Delite has only one battery and mine is the Superdelite which has two batteries.
I’ve riding E Bikes for a decade nowm Weight was never a issue. It’s actually very rare that you will lift or even carry your bike and if necessary and you don’t have the power, get some help or put the batteries out.
@@holyfox94 I'd like to see you lift a 60lb, bike onto a car rack.. then when home carry it up a few flights of stairs..removing a battery does not make that much of a difference.
@@stateniland If the car rack is on top, it’s very difficult, I agree. Thank god, my rack is at the end of the car. Lifting it knee high, is no problem for me as a women.
Congratulations on your choice! I still wouldn't recommend the bike for women or elderly people because of the heavy weight. That being said, there are strong women and fit elderly people who will judge for themselves and decide if they want it or not.
@@ruirodtube And weak guys. I bought the Delite HS Rohloff because I'm a lightweight and didn't want to carry the superdelite up 3 flights of steps. Also, my bike rack is at shoulder height in my hallway and when I tried to lift the Superdelite up that high in the showroom I nearly put my back out. It's a beast. The Delite is hardly a lightweight, but at least I have a fighting chance getting that on my bike rack without asking the wife to help. :)
🙋🏼♀️Weight on E Bikes was never a issue to me. I drive it and don’t carry it on a backpack. For ppl. who have to carry it up in the apartment, any e- bike will be a problem. Except the Go Cycle maybe, but you don’t want to make a bike tour on a Go Cycle.Believe me. Just sold mine.
Great review, perhaps you could put a small amount of plastic tubing around the contact points on the kickstand to prevent noise (rattling) and wear produced whilst riding over bumpy surfaces! I've subscribed. Thanks for sharing the very informative review, it's appreciated. Safe riding.
Thanks for this informative and comprehensive review. I am looking to get the GT rohloff Supercharger 2, so an unbiased review of a Riese and Mueller bike is really helpful. I am 184cm tall and reasonably strong, so the weight doesn’t put me off (even though I am getting into later middle age). It would certainly be a factor for my wife though as it would make it difficult for her to have to muscle around at slow speeds.
Great to know the video was helpful.
Can I ask why you're looking at the Supercharger 2 instead of the Superdelite? The dual suspension seems like a great feature to me.
Cheers!
Ruirodtube Good question. Price is a big consideration. Plus I like the higher load limit of the Supercharger 2 rear rack. I like the simplicity of the hard tail design. Having said that, I have an open mind. I still have an open mind. If the Super Delite is clearly superior I will still consider it. Have you ridden both and how did you think they compare? I want to buy an ebike that I can own and enjoy for a long time, which is why I am drawn to the Riese and Muller. Which is w
@Bruiser 64 I just traded my 2018 Supercharger in on the Super Delite Rohloff. I highly recommend the Supercharger. R&M can only improve on the 2020 model. The Cane Creek Thudbuster should be on the latest Supercharger: I have 2 spinal injuries & I rode 5,900km on the Supercharger with NO issues, I highly rate it.
Did you get your bike?
Which one did you choose? Any regrets?
@@holyfox94 Hi, I got the Riese and Muller GT Rohloff Supercharger 2. I have had it since August 2020. I have no regrets whatsoever. It really has the feel of a premium product. It is comfortable, stable, and reliable. Everything works really well on it. I am pleased I bought the dual battery version as I never experience range anxiety. If you can afford one, I really recommend them.
Nice review. Learned a few new things. I’ve yet to do test ride but will do based on this. 👍ty
Beautiful countryside
Just ordered one with Rohloff. The Rohloff was a must because I live in very steep terrain.
I don’t know if I should’ve ordered the Superdelite.🤔
I didn’t because I don’t like the wobbly feeling of a Fully.
nice ride along with you! 🚴 just got into ebikes and love em!
Right on!
Very nice video, and great it's not from a dealership or the company! Thanks for taking the time to create an independent review! Did they design their bikes yet so that you can have forward power and not have to peddle? Is there regenerative braking?
Hi, thanks for the compliment. I'm glad you liked it. I always look for independent reviews before making such an expensive purchase. I'm hoping this will help future buyers.
This e-bike requires pedalling to benefit from assistance.
It doesn't have regenerative braking.
Cheers!
Rumour has it that the new Supercharger for 2021 will have duel 625 watt batteries .
Wow! 1250 Wh on a bike... how far could you go with that? :-)
Congrats for this new bike. How much would you rate the comfort ? Comfortable or Very comfortable !
It’s a good review however I am a bit disappointed. You said your first impression of the bike is quite good. I was expecting very good instead. Let’s see what your appreciation will be in the long run. I am waiting for a Delite GT touring.
Thanks!
I didn't rate it very good because of the heavy weight and because of the not-so-comfortable saddle.
I also don't quite see how I'll be able to carry something on the forward rack without it interfering with the headlight (because the headlight turns with the handle bar while the rack doesn't).
I believe the Delite will be a better choice if you don't want to go for very long rides. Let me know what you think about it.
Cheers!
Hello,
I have studied the question a lot before ordering the bike and I still have second thoughts with my purchase ! With the HS version there are no others options than the Super Delite. Your range will be limited with the Delite HS version. Regarding the front rack, I am going to fit it with a MIK adapter and a BASIL trunk bag ( 7-15 liters). Anyway the load is limited to 5 kgs on the front rack.
This is my dream electric bike (one day maybe!). Incidentally, given that it’s an electric bike, you seem to be putting in a lot of effort riding it - are you trying to conserve energy?
Hi Rob, I'm not trying to conserve energy but once the bike goes beyond 25 km/h the electric assistance stops and you have to keep it rolling exclusively on your muscle strength.
This is indeed a dream bike and if you can get it I'd highly recommend it. I keep my car in the garage more and more, which saves me money.
Cheers!
Just my opinion, I think TQ motor, would be great, for this bike,with 120 NM.
Have you had any tire/tube punctures yet? I installed Tannus Armour on my Supercharger2. Hopefully, no more flats!
omarmerle not yet but I have only ridden less than 400 kms on them.
I have the same Super-Moto-X tires on another bike and they’re very puncture resistant.
Congrats on your new ebike! I enjoyed your video and your remarks about your new Superdelite. But you sounded surprised that your new bike is so heavy, as if you never test rode one before you purchased. Is that true? Also, you rode through some very beautiful countryside with superb cycle paths! Where do you live? I wish we had such bike paths here in California like you have! My wife and I ordered Superdelites a few weeks ago (after you did), and we are still waiting for them to arrive! We are very excited! Anyway, I wish you many, many happy kilometers ahead with your new ride! Best wishes!
Thanks! I was surprised indeed because I couldn't take a test ride before ordering it. The local supplier was closed for weeks due to the current pandemic and when it opened it didn't have the newest model for testing. Furthermore for financial reasons they don't keep a stock of expensive bikes for testing. I was able to hop on a regular Superdelite to test frame size but I couldn't take it out of the shop.
I live in Luxembourg where the cycle paths are indeed spectacular. That day I rode 130 kms almost exclusively on cycle paths like that and there are a whole lot more like them around the country. A truly great resource! We have shorter summers compared to California but when the sun is out people are out enjoying the countryside.
I hope you get your Superdelites soon. I took delivery of mine earlier than expected but I'm not sure how fast they ship them to America. I hope Cargolux will fly a couple of them to you soon. Let me know when you get them!
How long did they say it would be now days to get your bikes? I'm in the USA too. Are they still 8,700 USD?
They told me one and a half month but I got it sooner. I'm not sure about the delays for the USA.
Mine cost approx 7.000 €. If you order the Rohloff option, plus GX and so on it can get a lot more expensive.
Which model and options do you have in mind?
mwj5368 - I’m in California, and I was told 1.5 months. Usually it take 3 months here, but my bike dealer is paying extra for express (air) shipping from Germany. Superdelite prices vary considerably depending on what you get. You can confirm a price at the R&M website based on the features you want.
Thank you for your reviews. Very helpful. Do you know about the compatibility of the bosch smartphone hub with superdelite (45kmh, rohloff el. Shift)? My dealer in Switzerland said, it doesn‘t work. Is there an alternative to integrate the samrtphone?
Hi,
You’re welcome! I’m glad they help.
Unfortunately the SmartphoneHub isn’t compatible with the electronic shifting of the Rohloff E-14.
If you want to have the SmartphoneHub option, like I did, you must select either the Vario or the Touring versions.
I’m very happy with the Vario. It’s a step-less CVT (constant variable transmission) with reduced “gear” range of 380% but it works fine on most roads.
Cheers!
About the bikes weight-that’s about average. I have 3 different ebikes and all 3 weigh about 60-70#.
Great cycle paths. Where is that? Wish there were paths like that everywhere.
Unitedflyier welcome to Luxembourg! 😉
Where is this? There seems to be a wonderful lack of traffic to contend with!
Hello, still happy with your superdelite ?
Yes, still super happy. It’s reliable and comfortable. It’s my bike of choice for long rides on paved surfaces.
Are you considering getting one?
@@ruirodtube I have the Delite GT Rohloff. It’s also my bike of choice when I go for 3 or 4 days’ rides. Mainly on paved roads ( departementales ) and trails. Very good for exploring a region. I do a mixture of railways and bike trips.
Is it better than your Cube?
Good question.
Each bike is better in its specific task. You can't ride on rocky/muddy terrain uphill on the Superdelite and you can't ride cycle paths for 150 kms on the Cube.
It's like a dirt bike vs a Harley Davidson.
Needs more reverb.
I'm just using a GoPro camera. The sound changes when the wind affects the built-in microphone. I believe the camera has some sort of filter that removes the wind noises but then also alters the recording of the voice.
The alternative is that I wear a separate microphone and I don't want to make it that complicated.
Cheers
this isnt HS option is it?
Hi Chris, this isn’t the HS variant.
Cheers!
Me and wife just bought 2 riese bikes. I got the super gx hs.We are very excited.
@@ruirodtube I bet it is something simple to get it to HS if you want to?
You forgot to mention it’s £10,000. Important piece of missing information.
Actually this model costs almost €7.000.
that's the only drawback in these E bikes.. the weight. It is way too heavy for a petite woman like my wife to even attempt to lift it into our home when she gets home, other than that they are very cool.. R&M rule!
The Delite is lighter and the centre of gravity is lower too. Let her try that one.
P.S. Just to be clear, the Delite has only one battery and mine is the Superdelite which has two batteries.
@@ruirodtube yes I'm aware of the 1 battery.. but it still weighs 55lbs
I’ve riding E Bikes for a decade nowm
Weight was never a issue. It’s actually very rare that you will lift or even carry your bike and if necessary and you don’t have the power,
get some help or put the batteries out.
@@holyfox94 I'd like to see you lift a 60lb, bike onto a car rack.. then when home carry it up a few flights of stairs..removing a battery does not make that much of a difference.
@@stateniland If the car rack is on top, it’s very difficult, I agree.
Thank god, my rack is at the end of the car. Lifting it knee high, is no problem for me as a women.
You're saying woman are not capable of riding this bike this is a sexes comment. We own 2 of these bikes and we take them everywhere around town.
Congratulations on your choice! I still wouldn't recommend the bike for women or elderly people because of the heavy weight. That being said, there are strong women and fit elderly people who will judge for themselves and decide if they want it or not.
@@ruirodtube And weak guys. I bought the Delite HS Rohloff because I'm a lightweight and didn't want to carry the superdelite up 3 flights of steps. Also, my bike rack is at shoulder height in my hallway and when I tried to lift the Superdelite up that high in the showroom I nearly put my back out. It's a beast. The Delite is hardly a lightweight, but at least I have a fighting chance getting that on my bike rack without asking the wife to help. :)
🙋🏼♀️Weight on E Bikes was never a issue to me.
I drive it and don’t carry it on a backpack.
For ppl. who have to carry it up in the apartment, any e- bike will be a problem.
Except the Go Cycle maybe, but you don’t want to make a bike tour on a Go Cycle.Believe me.
Just sold mine.
Chill out, his comment about weight was an obvious one. Nothing chauvinistic about it. Go and find another battle to fight.