I Regret Ceramic Coating My Car | Hard Water Stains Don't Come Off!
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
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I convey this exact point to all customers who purchase a ceramic coating package and I tell them..if they get their car wet from sprinklers or even right after it rains... they must! wash and dry the vehicle immediately to prevent water spotting. no matter what coating, sealant or wax you apply hard water and the sun doesn't care and will etch your paint. you can use a descaling wash and light clay bar to remove new water spots but know that coating your car comes with extra care to consider. You really have to want to take these extra steps if you're considering a coating. personally, unless customer demands they want a coating. ...I advise that I can save them money by just claying, doing a quick light polish and applying a quality ceramic spray sealant or wax instead. Iditarod me telling them they can save almost 700$ sells them on this .. especially if I'm going v to be maintaining their car and topping up the protective sealant when it starts to deteriorate. Ceramic coatings are great but if one is paying me weekly bi-weekly or monthly to clean their vehicles..a ceramic coating is completely unnecessary. save your money . decon the paint do a light polish and apply a durable temporary spray like Turtle Wax hybrid solutions ceramic spray , Seal n Shine or Griots 3 in 1 ceramic spray wax. they are all no more than 20$ and last a good 3 to 6 months.. I personally choose Griots because one you prep the vast and apply it on dry paint. the next washes you can use one spray per panel and ise as a drying aide to keep vehicles protected indefinitely. People need to really think things through with some great advice from their detailers. and of you as a detailer aren't informing your customers about these potential negative outcomes... you should leave the industry.
thanks for sharing your poor experience to inform people. hope you polished the car again and it looks amazing.
It’s been super hard keeping my S8 V10 clean, but I’m so glad I never wasted my money on a coating that it’s only benefit at this point is quicker washes. Y washes are already quick enough I don’t even touch dry, all air
Ok. I can tell by the shape and size of those spots whatever “coating “ you used doesn’t look to be high quality (sorry😢) water spots are the achilles heel of real ceramics. However, a qualified detailer will ask you qualifying questions before installing a coating and that tells him which coating to use- I use four main coatings, one of which sheets water instead of only beading. Beading only is a disaster for someone in your situation . You can use a strip wash to pull all that off and it will probably kill that coating easily enough. If you still park outside and are prone to getting hit with sprinklers install a sheeting sealant at least. Arte de Shine nano gloss sealant is a good selection for your situation. Prep is key to have it work well. Hope this helps out!
Hey, thank you for commenting and explaining why it’s important to get a certain certain ceramic coating for the water spots… good to know!
I also battle with water spotting with crappy water- am I better off with some kind of wax or polymer sealant? I’m open to any LSP, whatever works best to give me more time to clean off water spots…
Thanks
As commented i’d also question the integrity of the coating and whoever applied it. The paintwork looked quite dull and swirled. A proper install would always involve full paint prep before applying the sealant to ensure proper bonding. This doesn’t look to be a quality job at all
A few thoughts: 1) 100% correct - ceramic coatings are susceptible to spotting as you stated. 2) The coating on your vehicle seems to be weak or to have failed. When you were hosing down the car, there seemed to be weak hydrophobic qualities (near failure in a few spots). 3) You might consider testing a portion of your vehicle (side panel). Ceramic coat 1/2, use whatever protection on the other half. 4) Griot's 3-in-1 spray sealant is pretty easy to apply if you want go a different route. Good luck!
If you think you can ceramic coat the car, just park it overnight on a regular basis with hot sun baking, next to city hard water sprinklers, you can’t expect any degree of ceramic or graphene to last and/or protect your paintwork in the manner you described.
Ceramic coatings are susceptible to environmental degradation just like any form of protection.
Depending on how you maintain it, the speed of degradation accelerates as well.
That’s simply not the purpose or what ceramic coating is suppose to do.
This is exactly whyI never considered Ceramic Coatings. I rather just wax mt car every 3 months.
My car was coated with Supply Shine Coating and the neighbors turned on the sprinklers & all that water landed on my car and I freaked out lmao. The water spots came off with an acid wash from car pro. So no need to re polish or re-coat the car.
Hey, came across your video and I also live in an San Jose. I was ASE master auto tech for many years and now I do professinal detailing. From the loom of your paint you didn't have a high quality ceramic coating and also the water here in SJ is very hard and has high mineral content and it can leave water spots in just a few min of water being on the paint on a sunny day. Using an acid based mineral deposit remover (3D is not that great) is the first step to try and remove the water spots, but at your level of spotting you need a light polish and reapplication of the ceramic coating. You prob only need to do the flat surfaces like the hood, roof and trunk. I. The future if you want to avoid the spotting you need a topper coating like Geyon Skin over your ceramic coating. The topper is specifically designed to force the water beads that the ceramic coating produces to slide of the paint. The two go together like peanut butter and jelly. As I mentioned I also live in San Jose and deal with the same problem as a detailer and I have done tons of ceramic coatings on cars with toppers and they don't have this issue. If you're interested drop me a message and bring your car by sometime and I can help you out
Now if the car dealer did the ceramic coating they never do the ceramic the right way they sometime dont even do the ceramic coating and charge youfor it
Ceramic coatings are prone to water spots due to the nature of the layer that it does to repel the water and that’s why professional detailers recommend using a topper coating every few months as I have coated my suv and using strong ph level from being acidic and alkaline I don’t have that issue with water spots
Good to know! I wonder if the topper is capable of repelling hard water that collects and sits on the car overnight continuously…
Excellent video ,had the same with mine .Ended up machine polishing all the coating off and used Supagard polymer instead ,in my opinion far superior and car easier to clean and maintain.
sprinklers and hard water will spot-up any sealant, ceramic or wax. carpro descale will wash away hard water stains. meguiars wheel brightener 5:1 will also wipe them away- just make sure you follow up with a detail spray or rinse.
Thank you! It’s not just coatings.
Anything that causes beading will result in hard water spots. The CC did its job and protected the actual paint underneath. Maybe try a wax on top of the CC that sheets more than beads?
Was gonna say that beading seems to be the desired effect for a lot of people. But what they probably want is water sheeting, for this reason, and for other reasons as well.
You’re right. It’s the properties of the ceramic coating that causes the beading and it’s just doing it’s job, but those ill-informed (ie. me) wouldn’t know unless they know. Hoping this video can help those out there make informed decisions.
And yes, I did eventually put a thick layer of wax on top of the leftover ceramic coating and it seems to help with the hard water situation
Had gtechniq csl and also exo v4, same thing happened to my car… these coatings need to be maintained every week. I left my car alone outside for a month or two and spots etched onto my car. I figured I might as well just do a spray wax every month and it’s the same thing as getting a coating done. Those coatings need a “topper” anyway to last the “claimed” 3 years
Ceramic coatings need to be maintained you don't need to do all that called using an acid wash called CarPro Descale And if it hasn't been sitting for that long used car spotless 2.0. You're gonna get water spots regardless when you get your car coated or not. you're trading mechanically removing it versus chemically removing it which in hand reduces scratching and maring. Ceramic coatings aren't bad your detailer didn't inform you of all the information about ceramic coatings. But also no offense do some research when you install something on your car, you would have learned about the pros and cons. It's impossible to stop minerals from drying on a surface.
Depending on the coating and age of the coating and how well it was applied, it can certainly be susceptible to hard water etching.
I have had a lot of success in the past using white vinegar to remove the hard water spots. Wash the car as usual and then dry it off. Begin with a 50/50 solution of pure white vinegar and distilled or de-mineralized water and spray liberally over each panel. Do one panel at a time. With a clean microfiber cloth spray some of the solution onto the cloth and gently wipe the panel down. You may need to repeat this process a few times or increase the strength of the solution. Leave the solution on the panel for a few minutes but do not let it dry. Once the spots are removed rewash the entire car with a neutral PH shampoo. And then top up the coating. This process has worked for me almost every time in the past.
If you have a daily driver and don't have a garage, then wash your vehicle once per week.
Yeah sounds scary but gonna have to use an acid based water spot remover. The sooner you do it the better. Don't worry the acid isn't on the surface for more than a couple of minutes.
Hi guys, that's what happen on my black car in summer..remove them is very very easy (but you'll kill your coating).Use a acid shampoo...I use Purifica by Labocosmetica..one wash(regular wash with bucket) with that shampoo will remove everything.
Using a wax is much better for cars that regularly get exposed to hard water. The minerals dry on the wax instead of the paint and are much easier to remove.
I would think any car that's exposed repeatedly to hard water would have this problem. No?
Use wheel brightener next time and it will take them off quicker.
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no ceramic coat on the market can be free or fight hard water spots. instead they are very sensitive to water spots because of the beading behavior (drops turn to magnified glasses in the sun)that is why they need also a topper over the ceramic to fight water spots and give time to remove. Is user error or/and misinformation about the ceramic coating abilities.
I feel like normal consumers just hear about the pros a lot, but not about the cons. We live and we learn
Yea a ceramic coating won’t protect from water spots. That hard sprinkler water + the sun will eat through your paint😢 it needs to be compound and polish again
You’re going to need a 2 step compound/polish to remove the water spots and ceramic coating. Use a good sealant or wax. Wash regularly. Do your best to keep the car away from sprinklers.
I think that’s the plan :)
They do! - If you use 50% white vinegar with 50% water in a spray bottle = Leave for a few mins, then wipe off
If you don’t look after the paintwork it will spot whatever protection you have. It’s very naive to expect any coating to protect your from lack of care. Park next to hard water sprinklers and leave it in the sun and you could coat your car in teflon and still get water spots
Interesting video, I had no idea. But I guess if it encourages droplets it kind of makes sense if you’re in a climate that is warm enough for the water to dry over night. Where I live the car would still be soaking wet in the morning. I wonder if you would still get water spots if you drove it (to drive the water away) before it dried.
Thanks for video, like I said. Interesting
not all ceramic are not made equal if you want a real one use the wipe one from the 60ML bottle. and you need to add UV protector. I recommend Turtle wax Graphene Ceramic Spray wax wash your car and spray the TW graphene then rinse and you are done
Some coatings do that! Unfortunately it is key to pick a right coating manufacturer
All ceramics do this the more expensive the worse it gets ....
I wax my car now once every three months takes 3hrs but never looked back I find it a much better finish then ceramic
Makes it easier to dry actually. And hopefully those waters spots ain’t coming from sprinklers
Lol okay no water sprinklers are contaminated that’s not good. There’s a product out there for you to remove those harsh spots
2 weeks of sprinklers 😂 and expecting ceramic coating to resist that?
I just bought a 2022 Dodge durango RT Plus I personally did chemical guys Hyro slick the whole truck and got caught in a open pump thru the streets and the next day it looks like your car. I used chemical guys citrus car wash and put it in the car wash now by seeing your video yes it really upsetting. Great video thanks.
I have the same problem I call me got that my black heart for mans now and every time it rains I get hard water sports I'm thinking Tom and my car for watch a week or every time about what a week what do you think is the best method I'm thinking to use the water spot remover and then waxing my car so Michael will always looks Sharp
I have a question. Is it better to use like a quick detailer or ceramic spray or using a liquid wax and then buffing it which one has the best gross effect on black car?
Wouldn't this also happen with paint sealants and waxes? Many sealants can give your car hydrophibic qualities for over a month which would be enough time for water spots to be etched.
Prior to ceramic coating, the car was waxed and parked in the same spot exposed to sprinklers. I never saw it to this extent
@@spec_egg Wax on ceramic coating is not a good combo, because it removes the essentials of the use of a ceramic coating.
This just happened to my car right now, dealership coated it after a hard rain and not able to wash it immediately, it left me with that kind of water etching. I am so frustrated because it is all over the paint and glass. I will definitely complain to the dealership about this.
Spray 50% white vinegar and water in a bottle - leave a few mins, then wipe off- Done!
Use 50% white vinegar-50% water - spay - leave a few mins - wipe off. - done!
Ok who ever did the ceramic coating need to fix the problem that you have something they did wrong
CC actually requires a bit of deliberate care. If done right it’s awesome. Sorry you had a bad experience.
@2:16 yep,,, it's me!!! I wish I didn't ceramic coat my car
Was this after it cured or during? And what was the ceramic brand?
This person was just delusional. And believed ceramic coating was som3 kind of magic.
It also happens with rain
I tried this and it don’t work.
I have watched your video when you applied your ceramic coat, but never watched or heard before polish you used clay bars to decontaminate your car. You polished but polish in some areas wont join to paint and same problem with your ceramic coat
My 2024 trax looks like SHIT...I wash it once a week and drive it for 10 minutes after to dry it...Fucking spots all over....
Thanks for the video ! Did the water spot remover remove the Ceramic coat?
Not really :( you’re gonna have to remove the coating, aKa buffing it out
Did you give the new paint a few months to fully cure before applying the coating? Just curious.
The car was left to fully cure for one full month before I added ceramic coating. This was recommended by a local detailer when I was considering having my car professionally detailed. But considering the cost, ultimately I DIYed
I think I would cry.
Brb crying
Does the water spot solution work?
Well you get all this horrible news about coatings but the truth of it all is atleast the coating is taking the hit and not your clear coat which from factory isn't much so the peace of mind is atleast you can correct the coating again if you have to without eating into your clear coat so much again. So even though a ceramic coating isn't always gonna keep it looking like a mirror if not looked after it still did its job of protecting the paint underneath from the etchings. So in a nut shell id rather my cars still have a coating as its going to make your original paint last longer than a car that hasn't which is always being buffed cause eventually you will have burnt threw your clear coat and then you have worse dramas than water spots haha.
No body should ever ceramic coat there car way more work to keep clean and the removal process is a joke it's just a cash grab.
Damn... This sucks. Never heard of this before, but I'm sorry about your little MR2. This definitely changed my feelings on ceramic coating my own frog. Post an update if you figure out a good way to get rid of the marks.
Yeh I was thinking about ceramic coating our work vans as they get pretty grubby, not sure I will bother now.
Wow, I’ve never seen water spots that bad!
What ceramic coating is on the car?
Not all coatings are the same.
Optimum. You can see more about it in my ceramic coating video which is linked
I used armor shield and it did the same thing
Have you tried giving your car a acid bath bilt hambr sells one or can try carpro descale it would help levitate that issue and it really depends on the ph level on the soap to get that water spots off
I’m not familiar with acid bathing and wouldn’t feel comfortable on what that would do to my paint. If anything, I would just polish and buff it away if it really comes down to it
@@spec_egg it would be safe coming from it being made a ceramic coating company but I understand your point
Watch this video...
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He explains well why you should take out ceramic coating.
Ceramic coating wont work well if you have your car outside, nothing can help with sun and contamination, ceramic and graphene coating will help to prevent, but you should do washings with ph neutral soap to preserv duration
@@guillermozepeda6778 thanks! I’ll check it out
@@guillermozepeda6778 you can use higher or lower ph soap but not so much my soap is rated at 8-9 it’s from carpro reset and gyeon restart wash
Use a product like car pro descale
I believe there is no ceramic coating on that car and they charge you for it
What? This is what ceramic coating did
Trust me I have the same problem
Me too
This has nothing to do with the ceramic coating. You parked the car next to sprinklers and didn't do anything about it. It sounds like you had a bad detailer do your coating who didn't explain anything to you. Another point is you got rid of those spots really easily which is a benefit of ceramic coating.
Try the chemical guys product, ceramic coating 😎
Wack
You would be a lot more informative and easy to listen to, if you would lose the “uptalk” on every sentence. You literally sound like you either are unsure of what you’re saying or that you’re asking a question.
Sigh…perhaps the type of content I produce is not for you and that’s okay. You’re welcome to click next and not watch. Next!