Great topic, John. All of our smaller clubs in my area (SE Wisconsin) are still doing well. No one is getting rich, but business is stable. A lot of owners are getting creative with ways to keep traffic coming through the doors, which seems to help. One club in particular will only cater to original music, and the scene has been very loyal and appreciative of this stance. --Mike
Here in Ventura, CA we have a strong local music scene thankfully. For instance, a year or so ago we had a new venue open up, holds about 300ish people. They must have a connected promoter, the classic English punk band, Subhumans played there a few months back and tomorrow night I'm going to see Early Moods play there. Being in my mid 50's I agree with you, it's not the same as it was by any stretch. Hard Rock and Metal back in the 80's fueled a tremendous club scene here in So Cal. Really miss those days!
So true John I find it sad that people won't pay a reasonable price for local venues yet pay $100s for huge bands. Here in UK same with theatres Opera etc no demand very sad 😢😢
Yes not just in the USA there has been a trend of smaller entertainment venues such as pubs,, bars, clubs closing up in the UK - particularly from around 2015 to now.
Yes, Texas as a whole has been dealing with this for a while. It’s just too expensive for all involved. Consider yourself lucky to have experienced the way it used to be.
I played on the local Dallas Fort Worth Alt Rock Scene in the 90’s .. turned 30 in 2000 went back to school got my degree a wife and had some kids few years later and now I am far removed from local scene but I do check out clubs showings here and there and some of the same local clubs have been around since the 90’s ( Trees since 1990 and Club DaDa since 1986) .. but I don’t know about any upcoming clubs that come and go , no idea.. my kids don’t appreciate live music they can’t get past the imperfections of live music .. but there is some hope, my daughter does love Smashing Pumpkins, RadioHead, The Smiths and Jeff Buckley 😊
Not so much now. I live in pinellas county and we went through a rash of smaller venues closing around 2013-2020. Most of them closed because of either the rent being jacked up to the point where they can't make money (most of the venues on Central Ave in St.Pete) or just not being able to compete with say The Brass Mug or Crowbar.
The market is shrinking and it seems like any given area can't really have more than one or two venues that appeal to the same demographic, there just aren't enough people to support multiple venues of the same style.
Merry Christmas John to you and your family 🎉❤⛄️☃️☃️.
Great video as always if it was a sad topic 🥲🥲🥲
Great topic, John. All of our smaller clubs in my area (SE Wisconsin) are still doing well. No one is getting rich, but business is stable. A lot of owners are getting creative with ways to keep traffic coming through the doors, which seems to help. One club in particular will only cater to original music, and the scene has been very loyal and appreciative of this stance.
--Mike
Here in Ventura, CA we have a strong local music scene thankfully. For instance, a year or so ago we had a new venue open up, holds about 300ish people. They must have a connected promoter, the classic English punk band, Subhumans played there a few months back and tomorrow night I'm going to see Early Moods play there. Being in my mid 50's I agree with you, it's not the same as it was by any stretch. Hard Rock and Metal back in the 80's fueled a tremendous club scene here in So Cal. Really miss those days!
So true John I find it sad that people won't pay a reasonable price for local venues yet pay $100s for huge bands.
Here in UK same with theatres Opera etc no demand very sad 😢😢
Yes not just in the USA there has been a trend of smaller entertainment venues such as pubs,, bars, clubs closing up in the UK - particularly from around 2015 to now.
Dingbatz in Clifton NJ and Debonair in Teaneck NJ are two great small clubs in my area that are still going strong. Thankfully.
The crowbar in Tampa closing really hurts
Yes, Texas as a whole has been dealing with this for a while. It’s just too expensive for all involved. Consider yourself lucky to have experienced the way it used to be.
I have read that car parking charges at venues in USA are expensive, think Mr Alo said up to $50 to park your car then a walk 😢
I played on the local Dallas Fort Worth Alt Rock Scene in the 90’s .. turned 30 in 2000 went back to school got my degree a wife and had some kids few years later and now I am far removed from local scene but I do check out clubs showings here and there and some of the same local clubs have been around since the 90’s ( Trees since 1990 and Club DaDa since 1986) .. but I don’t know about any upcoming clubs that come and go , no idea.. my kids don’t appreciate live music they can’t get past the imperfections of live music .. but there is some hope, my daughter does love Smashing Pumpkins, RadioHead, The Smiths and Jeff Buckley 😊
Not so much now. I live in pinellas county and we went through a rash of smaller venues closing around 2013-2020. Most of them closed because of either the rent being jacked up to the point where they can't make money (most of the venues on Central Ave in St.Pete) or just not being able to compete with say The Brass Mug or Crowbar.
The market is shrinking and it seems like any given area can't really have more than one or two venues that appeal to the same demographic, there just aren't enough people to support multiple venues of the same style.
These small clubs are now charging $25 or more for no name artists.
They can all go out of business..
Most fans of live music are getting too old to go out. Younger people do not care too much about live music instead prefer EDM DJs