If you want to truly support your spouse in becoming sober, you do NOT let him open up the bottles for you, you do NOT drink near him. That's flagrantly showing him you're able to drink and he's not, and it could spiral his addiction again. It's cruel.
Especially when someone is that fresh into recovering after being sober for years. I can't imagine how fragile and tempted he felt in those situations. She's gross for the way she treated him.
As someone in recovery I don’t expect people on my life to walk on eggshells around me, I’m the one who has the addiction, not them. I don’t expect them to not enjoy alcohol, they can… they don’t have crippling addiction issues and didn’t make poor life choices that led them to the point where they could no longer enjoy alcohol
@@sjworrier0613 there's a bit of a difference between your SO enjoying a glass of wine at dinner with you and that same SO asking you to open bottles of alcohol and mix drinks for you on a daily basis then catching an attitude and picking a fight if they don't do it. Imagine how hard it would be to resist the temptation when you can smell the liquor and it's just right there, in your hands, in the glass ready to sip, no one is looking...I could take just a sip...
@@sjworrier0613 I am triggered by the smell of alcohol All the sanitation done for covid is hell for me When I am finally home, I am in my safe space If my partner opens a drink inside, I'll be able to smell it for hours Yes I don't expect them to tiptoe around me But before drinking out, they ask me if I am okay with it that day If they want to drink at home, they wait until I'm in bed or drink in the garden, wash their face and teeth before coming close to me again We keep this an open conversation, as I don't want them to feel like they need to hide when they are drinking But the truth is: I have an issue and I can't live my life as if I didn't That's why we communicate and find ways that work for both of us
It’s so so so hard to speak truthfully when your abuser is in the same room. It’s conditioned into a person to keep up the “image” that the abuser requires.
TRUE TRUE. My daughter was s=$ assaulted and even though she was examined by forensic nurse. When recounted the fact, she recanted. Stupid judge wouldn’t even look at the medical reports, he said they were here say. 10 years later my daughter and I are still pissed about the corruption of the courts. $$$$$$$$$
Same here not that long tho it took a lot for me to break the cycle because that's all I knew I used to b like amber when I was young ND didn't Care who it was
I was addicted to OxyContin after a surgery in the 90s and getting off was the most horrible thing I’ve ever lived through. Johnnys description is spot on.
I feel like they let Johnny ramble a bit to show that he remembers little details about people and situations in his life. So if he remembers those things so clearly he probably remembers what happened with Amber very clearly.
We should keep in mind he is considered one of the greatest character actors of our time; therefore, he not only was living his own life but constantly imbuing himself as other characters. Character actor’s literally take on a role by coming up with that character’s personality, childhood, major life experiences. He’s been in movies since he was 22 years old. He’s older than AH so has more life experiences and has been in many more movies. His childhood trauma was heartbreaking. But he obviously loves his children. At least he seemed to select a stable, healthy woman to have his children with and raise them together.
As someone who has a BURNING need to be understood because of being chronically and intentionally misunderstood, he speaks very similarly to me when trying desperately to be heard fully and understood completely. The repeating things again and again, the stammering over my words, the pausing and speaking very slowly to try and think of how to say things next, it's all exactly the same. He seems very genuine to me.
Copy from a comment I left elsewhere on the video, but I exactly agree. I understand the way he's talking completely. I grew up in a household where being gaslit or having your feelings plainly ignored was a constant. When I try to explain how I'm feeling around a topic to my friends now, they often have the same reactions I've seen a lot of people have to the way Johnny speaks. "You don't have to go into that much detail, we understand." "I get it, it's okay, we don't have to talk about it anymore." They mean well, and in most cases they really do understand what I'm trying to get across, but they don't understand that in my mind, if I don't explain every step of my thought process, I'm not going to BELIEVE that they understand me. Because growing up, my parents never listened to the way I was feeling, they never understood the way I was feeling, and they never let me explain the way I was feeling. Even worse, they would just deny the way I was feeling. So now it feels like if I don't explain it all, no one will understand. Johnny didn't just go through that in childhood, he went through that for years with Amber. It's hard enough for me to get out of that mindset from my childhood now, in my 20s, I can't imagine being thrown back into it and having to get out of it all over again at his age.
Reading your comment makes things so clear for me. I have a similar problem with speaking so much so that I just try to shut up because my way of speaking just makes my spouse so upset. What you said(about being misunderstood and way of speaking) just makes so much sense.
It's very common with complex trauma. The repeating because you were never heard, speaking carefully because everything you said was held against you. It's very common. You're not alone. My heart is with you.
I have a brother who would take pieces of the truth and deliberately and intentionally weave a web of lies to misrepresent you so that others would mistreat you. He didn’t only do it to me but I was the youngest and only girl and he resented me for it. Fast forward decades later and there is a woman at work who has the same playbook. She plays the victim and if I or certain others disagree or have an opinion other than hers she will play that role. She is now the lead of our department. When your voice is taken away and you do get the opportunity to speak you try to pick your words very carefully, it’s like trying to navigate a verbal minefield. You’re afraid to tell for fear of not being believed or being accused of starting something because she’s already set it up as though she’s the victim and you’re coming for her when she’s the one who is actually vicious especially when there’s no one around to hear her. I feel bad for all Mr.Depp has gone through. It’s a kind of damage that while it can be repaired enough to go on, you never completely erase it. People tell me I don’t have to explain that much as well, until they witness or know what I’ve gone through as that brother can start still set something off in an instant. God bless Johnny and keep him safe.
As someone who’s also been thru detox, Johnny describes it perfectly as your body trying to exit itself. It’s the most vulnerable you’ll ever feel and I understand why he wouldn’t want Amber there. I’ll be 7 years clean this June. 💜
From the similar perspective (boyfriend in detox): what was miss Heard even doing around him when he was in detox? The first thing doctors do, is remove anyone who had ever taken drugs, and also family members, from "junkie"'s presence - either for suspicion they would bring them drugs, or create a situation which would aggravate detoxee's condition. Once the man has gone through the worst of it, then some short and rare visits gradually get allowed. In a nutshell, miss Heard had no business being on that island while Johnny was in detox.
My father is a recovering alcoholic. I have attended AA functions with him. Here's the thing about addiction or alcoholism. Many people cannot handle being around the substance they are trying to quit. Ms. Heard claims to have attended Al-Anon meetings. She claims she was trying to support him in quitting. If she was getting him to open bottles of wine for her, pour glasses of wine for her, and if she truly believed he was an alcoholic, then she was not supporting his sobriety. These are no nos for a spouse trying to get their spouse to quit a drug or alcohol. You are correct that they are still allowed to drink but goes against her trying to help him stop if she was still doing it in his presence.
Yes! As a child of parents who abused drugs and alcohol and grew up in AA meetings and Al anon… this is exactly what I thought too. She is cruel and vindictive and coordinated in everything she does.
I think it depends on the person n where they are in their journey.. but I cant imagine drinking in front of a person who struggles heavily with addiction.
It's like those families on _My 600 Pound Life_ that continue making unhealthy food in the house knowing the person needs to lose weight or they'll die. Support isn't just cheering from the sidelines; it's walking through the struggle beside them.
Yeah I won't deal with that BS I would straight up say do it I'm out I have seen so many ppl do that no way or I'm pregnant and then not be nuts ppl r nuts
Not supervillain at all. Just whiny spoiled teenager crap. Amber Heard sound very immature and high maintenance. I feel for Depp. A lot of guys have been through it.
Complex trauma makes it VERY VERY difficult to make sense of things and to express them in a succinct manner. I think he is doing incredibly well. He clearly has been very traumatized. I feel his struggle and his pain and even the shame he has to override in order to get all this out
I know I’m late but I’m glad so many people are bringing this up in the comments. It always takes me at least five times as long as my friends to explain even the most simple thing, unrelated to any trauma. I had to pause and check the comments because I found myself getting triggered by all the commentary on how he talks. It’s so difficult when you try to explain something while subconsciously expecting no one to understand or listen to you, or in worst case, attack you for it. It’s what happens when you grow up/live with people who will use anything and everything against you because you can never win in their mind anyway. He’s very brave and if this isn’t genuine and coming from his heart he’d really be the best actor to have ever existed.
@@ixizn your comment has perfect timing. I am currently suffering from the effects of what you say. I've been on double BP meds and double anxiety meds for 3 days. It sucks so much. So .... your timing is perfect and much needed. Than you
@@eileencogan I am so sorry you have to go through that. I know how difficult it is. Wishing you good health and healing, you’re not alone and you deserve the support you need to get through the hard times 💜💜💜
Strangely, I don't have an issue with how slowly he speaks. Or how he has such trouble answering directly, or how he tends to go round and round... All this has to be plain HELL for him. He has PTSD.
I don’t have an issue either . I’m a creative person and it makes sense . He is very interesting to me and also his voice is so calming . And I have focus issues too. So I must be interested in the subjects he is talking about .
I agree. I have ADHD (I believe he does as well) and recalling information on the spot can be really hard. It takes more thought for neurodivergent people to answer questions like these in real time. I would be a mess.
I understand the way he's talking completely. I grew up in a household where being gaslit or having your feelings plainly ignored was a constant. When I try to explain how I'm feeling around a topic to my friends now, they often have the same reactions I've seen a lot of people have to the way Johnny speaks. "You don't have to go into that much detail, we understand." "I get it, it's okay, we don't have to talk about it anymore." They mean well, and in most cases they really do understand what I'm trying to get across, but they don't understand that in my mind, if I don't explain every step of my thought process, I'm not going to BELIEVE that they understand me. Because growing up, my parents never listened to the way I was feeling, they never understood the way I was feeling, and they never let me explain the way I was feeling. Even worse, they would just deny the way I was feeling. So now it feels like if I don't explain it all, no one will understand, no one will believe me. Johnny didn't just go through that in childhood, he went through that for years with Amber. It's hard enough for me to get out of that mindset from my childhood now, in my 20s - I can't imagine being thrown back into it and having to get out of it all over again at his age.
I’m so sorry you have had to deal with people dismissing your feelings. They might do that because they are not sure what to say,. In any case I can relate to people dismissing feelings and treating me like I’m making it up. I hear you! 🙏🏻
I so feel this 100%. It feels hurtful when people shut me down in the middle of my thoughts. People often didn't have enough respect to let me finish. I found it to be rude. I am no longer friends with those kind of people. But it is crazy how triggering just reading the words can be! I'm sorry you have to deal with that too.
The "why he stayed" answer was so powerful. When i was a young child, my father was with someone like this for several years. She got upset if he tried to spend time with me, because she wanted his attention on her. She threatened suicide if he left. Fucking crushing to listen to this.
I’m going back and rewatching the trial, and I’m sorry Emily, it’s killing me that y’all are saying it was Camille questioning Johnny 😅😭 it was Jessica!
When he said he stayed because his father stayed, and he had lost a good relationship, and he didn’t want to fail really makes sense to me. I mean I can understand what he was feeling even if it was illogical. He thought it could get better, even if it never does. And that sounds like a victim to me.
Part of the replay crew because I missed his testimony, and the pang I feel in my chest every time someone becomes impatient with the way he answers is personal since I tend to speak the same way. I always backtrack too far to start from the very beginning, to information that probably isn't important but to me you need to hear to understand where I got to the important part. I lose my train of thought and ramble a bit before I remember what I was saying. I've teared up several times during this testimony because he just seems to want to be heard and to have people understand him and I relate to that so heavily.
@@Spicy_Spores I understand why EDB was gettting annoyed with his pacing and meandering way of speaking, but I 100% agree with you and feel the same way.
The more I see people dissect the way JD talks the more I realize why my past therapists got annoyed with my dissociation and why I had to go to a trauma specialist. As SOON as my brain got near anything bad suddenly it turns into "You know how you go to the store..." instead of "I go to the store" or "Sometimes people go through this..." instead of "I went through this" - and the long winded answers of 'this is what happened, it's not their fault! it hurt. I understand though!" like - this ENTIRE thought process I'm seeing with him was all my therapy sessions leading up to me finally cutting contact with an abuser. This must have hurt him so much... and it doesn't matter if he did it already. You start talking about my past abuser and 30% I'll be okay off the bat but I will always descend back into this exact position. It's like half his brain is saying 'This is wrong. Speak up!' while learned behavior is saying 'This is wrong. It's your fault.'
Also noticed, he faces the lawyers when answering their questions, he only faces the jury when he’s trying to explain “surroundings” or certain “this is what it looked like/how it works” questions. She’s looking at the jury all the time as if she’s doing an audition.
@@AnnaVictrix THANK YOU!! You said that so well. I would often ask myself and a few trusted friends, do I had a sign somewhere that says, "PLEASE ABUSE ME!" I know how strange that must sound to others, but my life of abuse and abusers just seemed too wild to explain otherwise!
Some people may not like the way in which he “rambles”, but it is important for him to tell his truth. He has been through an excruciatingly amount of conflict and public shame based off of exaggerations, half truths and lies. Let him explain it as he sees fit. He’s communicating his truth and we don’t know the complete psychology of the situation. Per his testimony, he doesn’t know legalese and so he is trying his best. His attorneys are doing their best to let him tell his story, and people who don’t completely know the process may have difficulty adhering to those who have been involved in the civil process difficulty expressing their story without keeping feelings and perspectives out of their testimony. Sometimes it’s hard for witnesses to pin down “the things”. So good on him for speaking his truth. If you don’t like it, watch summations of it.
It is interesting how Johnny did go to the doctor ASAP after his finger incident, but Amber whenever she had her supposedly was given a "split lip" and black eye went on the James Corden Show and did not go and seek medical attention. Especially for something so prominent as her face compared to Depp's finger. Then, Depp, even though Heard had traumatized him and committed physical violence not once with the finger incident, but twice with the cigarette burn all within the same time frame, he tries to save face and protect Heard from the media agony if it got out that she did this. He didnt want to hurt her even then! He is a victim of DV. Heard has the audacity to be the face of DV.
I am a pharmacist and understand the necessity of those meds, and I find him having to beg for meds to HELP him get through something safely, is INCREDIBLY BEYOND cruel. I am angry for him. So cruel and nasty. Disgusting. That she would rather watch him beg and cry than help and actually be of support. :(
As a pharmacist are you genuinely saying that Heard had a "responsibility" to provide him with prescription and illicit drug cocktail to be washed down with a few bottles of booze? Seriously? Depp had no business working while so drugged. He put everyone around him at risk.
@@ek7390 who said anything about him washing anything down with booze? That's your interpretation. I was referring to meds that help him detox. What do you think they do at a detox center? They aren't giving them the drugs that they are addicted to but supportive medication to help with withdrawal. They also administer these these in hospitals. Listen to the testimony. His doctor and his nurse were there to supervise the detox because it a process. So back to my ORIGINAL answer, what she did was cruel! There was nothing helpful about what she was doing. She wanted to watch him suffer based on testimony. Bottom line! So AS A PHARMACIST, take your clear Amber bias and get out of my comments.
@@maddicarlson4267 I think you should understand that Depp refused to go into a proper rehab facility. What do you think would have happened if Depp started flipping out and pushing a nurse at a rehab facility to get at the withdrawal meds before the allotted hour? Do you think they would have just given in and given him the meds?
Johnny is extraordinarily natural. everything is together the way he talks; his body language; his story coheres forward and backwards in time; and he's always the same guy; such a difference from Amber
45:20 disagree, I think it's a very cruel thing to do in their sobriety journey to MAKE THEM POUR WINE FOR YOU. It's like making an ex-junkie to prepare the needle for you. It's like asking someone on a diet to slice chocolate cake for you. It's cruel and inconsiderate, any good partner would support removing alcohol from the house. Where as what he's describing is she's a maniac who demanded he get sober while proceeding to get drunk herself and call him an alcoholic and terrible father.
He has an opportunity to tell AH his side of the story. Her face says she has never heard these things from him before. He deserves this time to say his truth.
She's acting. She looks like she's thinking 'Oh Johnny, how could you? It was you who abused me and i'm so sad", to match her eventual testimony that he hit her, raped her with a liquor bottle, threw her naked on broken glass and injured himself. The big lie in action. Her poor sister, obviously her first and ongoing victim on whom she honed her 'craft'; the abuse is written all over her sister's face. imo Heard is a certifiable malignant narcissist [pathological lying its foundation] not borderline personality disorder. But I don't think narcissistic personality disorder [NPD] is recognized in the DSM, maybe because there are so many of them in positions of power, especially at the top of the medical pyramid.
He seems to only be comfortable when playing a character. Doesn't seem to like the fame or anything that comes with it but is truly grateful for everything. Seems like he doesn't believe he has any worth. I completely understand what he is saying too. He did everything to avoid confrontation but he couldn't with her and it was like history repeated itself. I really empathize with him. My mom was very similar and you flash back to that throughout ur adult life, to not fail in a relationship and be everything that ur mom wasn't.
It’s crazy that she watched him like a HAWK during his ENTIRE testimony, whereas Johnny couldn’t look at her once. If this man viciously abused you physically and emotionally for years, the last thing you’d want to do is sit there and stare into their face for hours upon hours while they’re supposedly “lying” about all of it. Amber is so full of it.
100 of 100 psychiatrists surveyed would judge her to be a very vain, self righteous, drama queen, liar, who lives in delusions of persecution, an unrepentant, un self aware abuser.
I agree that the unblinking stare is a bit weird and creepy, and I'm pretty sold that she's an abuser at this point...but, I disagree with your reasoning. Having known friends who've recovered from abuse, having personally gone through SA, I think some of us can feel or fantasize about the opportunity to look your terrorizer in the eyes, stare them down, confront them, and hold them accountable. Even if they were on the stand lying about you, I can understand wanting to stare them down to call their bluff or at least let them know that you're no longer afraid. Again, I don't think that's applicable here with her, but I think you should reexamine that assumption bc it can easily go the other way, y'know?
Rewatching and noticed that it was said Camille Vasquez was questioning Johnny Depp. It was another female attorney. Camille questioned Amber Heard and other witnesses. It was Jessica Meyers who questioned Johnny Depp
I know everyone is having trouble adapting to JD’s style of communication. As someone who also struggles with ADHD we have trouble sometimes articulating responses quickly. I personally need to prepare extensively for public speaking, you can tell he also needs a moment to think about how to answer each question, we are also known for rambling on with more information then what’s needed. Keeping it concise is a struggle , especially if we are worried we haven’t provided enough information. Going off on tangents is also part of the struggles with communication.
Yes, when I want to tell someone some small part of a movie or book I have to go on and on, practically telling the whole story, just to get to that little point I wanted to make.
@@little78lucky Yes 🙌🏻 it’s so difficult sometimes to be aware of that in the moment. This just further makes me believe he is being truthful and not providing responses that are rehearsed.
@@little78lucky yep! and then the mental fear that halfway thru i’m going to miss one tiny plot point that completely derails my train of thought, stop talking and stare into space like this🤔
I understand why he was talking about the day where he drank half a glass of champagne with his crew. After years of battling addiction and alcoholism, even if it was a questionable choice to drink, he was so proud of himself for only drinking half that glass. That was a victory that he deserved to celebrate. It wasn't a perfect choice to make, but it was a stepping stone that he accomplished. To then go back home and get berated to shit by your partner, who drinks and takes drugs around you, with whom you wanted to share what you considered this incredible moment - that's a special kind of heartache that really digs deep. You no longer feel proud of yourself, and you no longer feel like you're even allowed to be proud of yourself. Every victory you achieve will link back to that moment when it was swatted down by the person who's supposed to love you. It's a beating down on the soul. It seemed like such an inconsequential story, but there was SO MUCH depth in that example, and I wish the lawyer had helped him highlight why that story was so important. As someone who also battled alcoholism, that story broke my fucking heart.
It took me the better part of almost fifteen years to stop defending my abusers. I totally understand why he's still protecting her. You feel partially responsible for the actions. You wish you could have done something differently. You often wonder if you did something to cause the abuse. Boundaries are blurry, and you're thinking, if I just fight back with different tactics, be kinder, the bigger person, they'll see what they're doing and stop. But, the boundaries keep being transgressed more and more until there's nothing left. You're left with the damage, and you blame yourself in an unhealthy way. You want to protect them because you remember the person they were before the abuse, and you know it's still there somewhere. You just want to see that light again.
Really what it is, is that it becomes an ingrained habitual way of thinking; & acting to protect the image of the family that you've tried to project for so long as being a "normal" one, a "happy family", you wanted others to think that you have a good husband, that's a normal wish. Everyone wants that to be the truth of their life, but it backfires on an abuse victim because the image becomes more important than the awful reality. I've known quite a few women, sadly in awful marriages, who took an awful lot of abuse before they finally could or would admit it to anyone, or admit it to themselves. It took what never should've had to happen for them to wake up & finally see that they were not going to change and that by them continuing to stay with their abuser, they'd not only damaged themselves, in ways they'd be trying to heal for a long time but it was also harming their children psychologically, with mental damage they'd be struggling with for a long time. Often abused women think they're doing a good job of shielding their kids from the worst stuff, trying to mitigate the damage the kids are exposed to, by maybe having them be over at their friends or some family members homes a lot or thinking the kids were asleep or that the abuser is never mean to the kids. But then they find out years later about some of the bad moments the kids went through but never told you because they either were commanded to not tell you or they knew you'd get angry at dad & there'd be a fight, that'd end up with you either crying or actually hurt. So they never told you. Sad thing is, while the abuser was driving you into numbness, depression, until you were barely able to function, he also thereby stole YOU from his own children, he stole the real you from them, a happy, attentive mom, focused on her children, so the lasting damage goes far deeper than a person stuck in abuse realizes. If they';ve done it once, then twice, do not wait for the 3rd time.
@@Tinuvielthefair I'd ...well I'd say thank you, but I hate the fact that I know those things from others relationships with sick people AND my own experience in just such a marriage for 27+ years and I hate that you have been through enough to recognize how true it all is (what I commented before). I didn't have the internet through my 27+ years of hell, if I had, at least I would've understood they don't ever change or return to the kind, respectful person they pretended to be when you met them. At least I might have known what the real issue was (that they're not able to be "normal", they don't have empathy, not enough when it comes to others feelings, their feelings always come first & their feelings are insane, so....) It's funny how so many of them latch onto strong, capable, intelligent women, then they'll spend every day trying to break her spirit, tear her heart out, tear her down to nothing. We all believe they would never treat their children bad, and mostly they won't.... until they do...until that child does not totally worship them anymore and maybe can see some of their awful flaws or dares to express their dislike for some of his offensive ways. Then as the kid grows into teen hood, young adulthood, the child becomes another grown up who sees who they really are and they hate to be seen.I regret letting him take so ,much of me away from my kids, even though I worked hard trying to keep the damage away from them, it has only been in the last 12 years that they've told me some things he did or didn't do, because he passed away in 2010. More damage was done in so many small ways, for 4xample one of my daughters repeated my life unknowingly.....only how is she unraveling the damage at 38 years old. It breaks mu heart.
He remembers points in his life based on what movies he was in at the time. I've had a good handful of jobs, so I do the same. It seems like he associates things alot. That's a sign of a great memory.
She didn’t want to give him the meds for his withdrawal a little early because she had complete and total control over him. Wouldn’t be surprised if she got enjoyment and satisfaction out of making him beg like that. It really tells you what kind of person she is. She’s really horrible. I couldn’t imagine doing that to anyone, let alone someone I love. Although, I don’t think she ever truly loved Johnny. She loves herself and that’s it. That’s just my opinion though.
I get what you are saying. I don't think a layperson should ever dole meds out for someone though. I did this for someone close to me and it was a total disaster and it can destroy a relationship. Because a person is addicted for a reason. Addiction is not a choice. Should be done by a professional.
@@xino_z exactly you shouldn't and dont want to be around loved ones... You want to die literally...thats why people keep on using even when they want to stop
@@xino_z Agreed. It can really fuck up the relationship and it is so easy to fall into that trap when you care about somebody. Amber should not have been the one with the power to withhold or give meds. Aside from anything else, it wasn't fair for her to be put in that position. He had the resources to be with independent people looking after him, although I understand he may not have wanted that (or she might not have).
Ohhhh, he said he didn't feel any pain initially when his finger was smashed. That's why Amber keeps saying she didn't feel any pain in any of the supposed incidents. I wondered why she kept saying she didn't feel any pain for these obviously excruciatingly painful situations she's been describing. Dr. Curry was spot on with her analysis of Amber Heard
And she called liquor spirits too I had wondered why an American woman her age would call it that. Now I know. Also going back and rewatching his testimony
Yeah I think his not feeling pain must have had to do with shock and probably something to do with how the nerves got severed. I don't remember her talking about how much pain she felt during or after being beaten but I remember her saying several times "it didn't hurt". It's very odd to say the least and what you say makes sense!
@@melodylinsmeyer8616 Actually I’m a few years younger than her and I call them spirits. If you’re a Wine/Spirits nerd you might just refer to them that way.
@@anaturalwoman I was taken aback when she testified that when the SA with the liquor bottle was happening that she couldn’t feel pain, but she felt pressure, and that she thought he was punching her there with a fist and then looked down and it was a bottle. It made little sense to me.
I assumed she said that because it made acting out the lie easier. She already had to feign emotional pain; feigning a sense memory of physical pain she didn't experience would be too taxing. Easier to just stipulate that she wasn't aware of pain, so as not to give jurors more reason to doubt her story.
As someone who has been through abuse and trauma, it's really really hard to put it into words. It's really hard to explain. I know for me, it doesn't always feel real. Like I'm making it up, even though it's true.
Its also my experience that you are desperate to make it work. I think he regretted leaving Vanessa for amber. He knew that since he lost all that to be with her, your gonna do everything in your power to make it work so you don't hear, I told you so.
Definitely fits into the sunk cost fallacy for me. If you put everything into something then when you feel like you fail, then what was all that work and effort for.
@@kathleenbielecki6814 yup. Ive experienced it in the past, where so many people warn you about a person and a situation but being in the situation, you don't see what everyone else does and you follow ur heart, so when things get bad, you try ur damnest to make it work and don't admit to yourself that everyone was right.
What's really incredible is, is Johnny turned this into an autobiography but his team still had time left at the end and hers used almost all. Sorry for the spoilers 😂
So she moved all her friends into his penthouses to live for free, he paid for all her expenses, she rushed the wedding procedures then got angry about her potential inheritance (or lack there of) then allegedly didn't donate her settlement money from the divorce? 👀
I remember telling my girlfriend I was going to the garage to get tools ready for the home improvement she wanted me to do the next day. I got my impact driver, half a dozen screws, went into the spare room and screwed the door shut behind me. I later found the strength to leave but it cost me £20,000. It’s a lot to a working man. I only have my dignity to show for it which I should have by default. You’re not on your own JD. I hope you get over this.
@@bethanychatman9531 Thank you. I’m in Kos airport departure lounge with a wonderful woman having had a fantastic holiday and even a delayed plane can’t wipe the smile off my face. That life and now are poles apart. 👍👍👍
I'm a victim of abuse. I say that to say this: I know from personal experience I was so scared people would missunderstand me or restructure my words or my answer that i have to over explain how everything came about just to try and make sure no one can missunderstand me. I think thats what hes doing here. hes over explaining because thats how he has learned to communicate. A lot of really good story tellers are that way because details are the only way we can ensure people see why we did/do things. I know that fear when you try to answer a question and all you can do is try and over explain to avoid the issue at hand. Stomach twists in knots, i start shaking violently, i think this is just what he is trying to deal with.
Replay crew . Was not that interested in this case until my fav Atty covered it. Now I’m addicted to every word. JD is definitely not the fast talking, outspoken, don’t give a 💩 person I thought he was from his film rolls. He’s so down to earth and relatable.
As someone who struggled with a back injury from my freshman year as a dance major. To finally having a back specialist believe me when I begged many years for help and performed a lumbar spinal fusion when I turned 31, I can completely relate to his opiate addiction. I was able to transition to a medication that allows me to not take opiates, but I must have it on me at all times… otherwise things will quickly get real bad. Withdrawal is one of the most painful things to experience and I feel like his moaning audio is from him dealing with the withdrawal on the plane, that’s just what it immediately made me think of. I don’t even know how he could fly back to LA while in the middle of his detox, it would be impossible for me. It’s beyond triggering to know how she treated him while he was detoxing. I’m horrified by this and can only imagine how traumatizing that was for him. The restless leg syndrome alone freaks me out when I think of it, you’re entire body is shaking and you can’t control it. Please know I supported her in the beginning. I’m a completely left leaning feminist and based on this trial I don’t believe a word of it from her.
Omgd! I mean, this is horrendous. This woman has the guts to come back at him. I am always in awe at how people like her get away with gross abuse like this.
I think it would be wise to hear her side of the story before we jump on the “awe poor Johnny” boat. She was the one who alleged abuse first and he was the one who made her sign an NDA 😂…. It’s literally why this whole case is happening in the first place
@@sjworrier0613 She claimed she was going to donate the 7 million...never did. The NDA I imagine is so she cant keep coming back for more ransom money.
I think Amber Heard not only escalated the arguments.. she instigated them. I've dealt with people like her in the past .. they are very manipulative and narcissistic, pushing buttons every chance they get. NOT the behavior one would adopt if they were 'afraid' ..
I don’t know who is telling the truth, and who is garbage, but I know I could listen to this man talk for the rest of my days and never be bored. His tone, and pitch…..
Johnny’s communication style reminds me very much of my own. I get lost in my thoughts (adhd) feelings are hard because of my traumatic childhood. I understand him very well. If we answer impulsively it’s not usually correct. He tells stories to get his point across. I know people get bored by it. There are tidbits that paint a complete picture to me. He skips the pain because it’s hard to handle in front of other people, let alone the world.
In aware that it may not have a caring on the defamation argument, and that AH may have her demons and JD may not be a perfect person, but throwing heavy bottles at someone and arubbing out cigarettes on their face is horrific. I have no words. I'm disgusted.
Amber Heard seems like a gaslighting abusive partner at this point! She seems to be just staring ahead zoned out during this testimony. I’d love to be a fly on the wall once she’s out of the court during this, I bet she’s so angry!
I just got out of a relationship where the person would gaslight me and use the trauma that I've experienced against me in arguments to get their point across. I'm never going back, and I hope no one else has to experience something like that.
JD seems damaged, but genuine. I would suggest he gets serious counseling before he ever allows himself into another relation. Abuse is cyclical, he will keep choosing the same kind of person, until he sorts out his past. AH seems like she "acting" damaged. She comes across so far as a bit of a vulnerable narcissist. Constantly pushing toward an abusive outcome because it's what she is comfortable with. She also needs serious counseling if she ever wants to have a healthy relationship or she will always be angry and unhappy. In their own weird way, it would seem both people seek damaged people to offset their own damage.
If you’ve watched Emily long enough you’ll know that her brain works super fast. She’s brilliant and insightful but not patient with slow speakers like Depp. She did get better. I’ve found that watching the trial first with no commentary then listening to Emily’s commentary fully informs you. You first hear the testimony then you go hear Emily explain the legal process happening and her hilarious asides. ❤
2:28:50 So I initially saw the most recent coverage of this case that includes Amber’s testimony, and how she bizarrely described not feeling pain, just feeling the heat and pressure of Johnny’s boot in her back from the plane flight from Boston to LA… I’m literally appalled after watching this. She’s copying how Johnny’s describing the Australia incident where he lost his finger in every fictional incident she’s created. From the screaming, to the embarrassment, to the shock. She’s watching the jury and I’m sure she sees how taken they were with his description of his feelings and thoughts, and in my opinion without any genuine feelings to go off of, she is using Johnny’s as her own. I already wasn’t buying her story, not just because the way she tells it involves intense emotion with no real substance in her words, details are missing or skipped over, her face scrunching up when she ‘cries’ but no actual redness showing up or tears, when describing an incident in which Johnny sexually assaulted her in a jealous rage after she was talking to a co-star or something, she says “I won’t embarrass *you*” when pretending to speak as though she was Johnny before quickly correcting herself and saying “You won’t embarrass me”. I know it seems small, but to me that’s a very clear slip up to what I believe really happened. She assaulted Johnny in response to her jealousy over attention he was getting, got triggered over the potential loss of him, and all her testimony is really what she did to Johnny, pretending to be him and mimic what she believes he felt. It’s why it comes across as scattered and disingenuous. You can’t really fake something you didn’t feel. …If only she was a better actress.
Improv classes would have done wonders for her. It would have helped her with coming up with details on the spot. She needed more time to become a seasoned actress.
She is not a very good actress / wife/ person at all. It appears she has taken down people before this she seems confident and composed not at all the victim she wants to put out to the public.
It’s a good thing that AH is NOT a better actress or Mr Depp would have had a much harder time of it and might not have had his slam dunk wouldn’t have been awarded $10 million in Damages…and $5 million in punitive damages
So I saw someone else say that the attorneys might be letting him talk uninterrupted is to show that he remembers all the details and that made me think of *maybe* they also are trying to just let the jury “get to know him.” Is that a strategy? To counteract the celebrity, the legendary status, any preconceived notions, the “otherness” of him that the jury might not relate to or understand, they want the jury to get a sense of who he is?
Hi everybody!! I am a 3rd year uni student studying neuroscience and he thinks very abstractly. So how he explains himself is kind of like, what people refer to as a ‘thought loop’. It can be hard to follow - but think about it like this: he uses analogies to explain his life experiences little by little, and then links all of those back to a general/vague question or statement. :)
Ref Dark Humor. It’s a coping mechanism in very difficult situations. Has anyone else thought how their text message or emails between your own close friends would translate in a courtroom??
Oh I thought so as well. I pretty much said so many nasty stuff against my best friend's exes. Oof, kinda scary that dark jokes like those could be twisted as genuine threats in the court.
From my own experience, it’s so much easier to talk about a disease, like addiction, that has torn your world apart than to say something about your abuser. I’m also a little bit in love with the closed captions.
My dad talks like him. Almost exactly. He has severe social anxiety and adhd and he always has long answers to “easy” questions because in his brain there is no easy answer. He is also an old soul and super reserved. He loves until people, even those who hurt him, until it becomes so toxic that something clicks and he realizes he can’t “save” the person. Plus he looks like JD. So nothing about how he talks bothers me in the least. We old school Hoosiers tend to have this type of cadence.
As I sit here and watch her face and her micro aggressive expressions, and her short micro expressions of satisfaction as he explains what he felt makes me literally sick. My mother did exactly what AH did as she abused me as a child and got away with it, making herself the victim in a situation where she was the abuser. The way her eyes change, my mothers and many other family members did the same. She isn't hiding that she's going to create a narrative around what he's saying to invalidate his trauma, at all. The smug satisfaction micro expressions are what really bother me. He's struggling, and she's enjoying it. I really really hope he is vindicated and the world hears his truth. Before seeing this, I wasn't sure what I believed. Now, I see it very clearly. He is a victim and I believe him.
I am sorry that you had such a mother....I know a liitle about narcissist......As for Johnny Depp...I think that at least..he is winning in the court of Public opinion...she IS a monster....and even used the me too movement. He facial expressions say a lot..
I had skipped over Johnny's testimony, so I'm backtracking to catch up. I will say that I am more emotionally affected by JD's story than Amber's despite hers being much more graphic and her showing more "emotion." While that doesn't automatically mean Amber's lying, her more theatrical presentation coupled with how excessive the violence was (with little mention of how she hid broken bones without medical care) isn't resonating with me like a simple, "She threw a remote at my head."
I just want to say I’ve stumbled on your channel today and I really enjoy your commentary on this case. One thing I do see a lot of comments on is that when you’ve gone through a relationship with a volatile partner it’s really difficult to even think about what happened let alone tell others. Normally I’m a pretty quick talker and almost manic when I’m happy but whenever I talk about what happened with my ex it’s so hard to get any words out. I stutter and I feel almost slow and stupid because I’m so overwhelmed I can barely get the words out. Maybe his cadence is always this slow but I imagine that he’s having a hard time trying to piece together exactly what happened because it was so traumatic his brain gets scattered when he goes near the topic. I really feel for him so this is hard to watch but I think I owe it to him to hear him out and listen to the entirety of his story because I would want others to do the same for me.
Johnny describes trauma bonding when he describes why he stayed. Trauma bonding is created by a sweet-mean cycle when the abuser starts with love bombing and over time becomes abusive and then the abuser alternates between abuse and intermittent love bombing. It's the same phenomenon as playing a slot machine. It starts with an early win, and the gambler then chases the high of the win. The abuser will treat the victim really well, and then intermittently abuse and go back and forth between those cycles. The cycle of abuse becomes shorter and shorter over time. He describes this phenomenon in his testimony and in his emails and text messages. Another thing that happens in abuse is that the abuser will convince the victim they are responsible for the conflict and the victim will then take responsibility for creating the conflict. In this case, Amber preyed on his drug and alcohol use to spin it into the reason for Johnny's "abusive" behavior -- that's why she coined the term "monster" to make Johnny believe that he was a monster when on drugs and to spin it to outsiders (that's why she told all his and her friends and families about his drug use) that he was out of control under the influence of drugs. He's describing, without the vocabulary, the process of abuse. If his drug and alcohol use had really been the problem, she would not have been heavily drinking and doing drugs in front of him. The drugs in Australia were for her. In that audio, she admits she was on Xanax, Adderall, ecstasy, and hallucinogens. The wedding invites -written by Amber- included "dancing and drugs" - when she was supposedly concerned about his drug use. Why does this make any sense? It doesn't, so it's not true. The reverse seems to be true, that she was often high and drunk (we hear from audios) a lot and that drove her abuse of him. The therapist had no business treating these two when she was informed of abuse. Once there is a report of abuse, she should have stopped therapy because abuse is not a couple's problem. I question if she had the qualifications to treat domestic violence and if she didn't, she probably shouldn't have because that's a violation of her professional ethics.
Is it possible that his slow, wandering cadence influenced the decision to put him on the stand this early? Like wanting to present him to the jury while their attention is more fresh?
Aside from this one point- I love Emily’s commentary. Amber said she went to Al-Anon. I grew up sitting in the back of AA meetings and going to Ala-teen because of my family member who is a recovering alcoholic. You absolutely don’t have alcohol around if you want to support someone’s sobriety. She said she tried everything and drank two bottles a day. Imagine being sober around that every day. She made the alcohol very accessible to him by having it in the house. Her drinking in the house they share absolutely can impact his sobriety. This point bothered me every time she’d discuss it. She’s selfish and she wanted to control him.
He doesn't seem like a man who would tell everybody about the ongoings of his relationship. Like those couples that every time I get in a fight they post something and you wonder why are they even together. He doesn't seem like that type at all so I would imagine it makes him uncomfortable to have to talk about it so everyone is watching
i've been rewatching jthe trial because i only really caught about halfway though it when it was live but here's something interesting that comes back up later: at 34:54 he says "what can you do?" talking about not wanting to fight back and forth about being a monster or not. he then says "you accept her vernacular. you accept the WORD that SHE uses then you use that word... to placate her so that it would at least calm part of the aggression." isn't that what she was trying to do later with the pledged/donated fiasco?! she was trying to get camille to use HER word and camille wasn't taking the bait! the fact that camille refused to back down from using "donated" only riled amber up more which aligns with johnny's testimony here to a tee!
He made me sob as it brought me back to where I was in my own life. Heard just pissed me off. It didn't feel the same. One made me feel like I was reliving personal stuff one made me think "you're so full of shit" and I rolled my eyes multiple times during her testimony..I just couldn't help it.
Wow! When he talked about the hot shower and tricking your body, I fully understand but in a different sense. I get scalding hot showers to deal with my chronic pain and I stay in there until the water is cold. It really does take the focus away from other pain. And when you are in that much pain, any diversion is welcomed.
It does I would go sit in the tub for a while and do that several times a day until it was time to sleep. If I could have slept through it all I would have. Had to go through a few times after major surgery and then again after being on pain meds for years with my back. It’s horrible.
I have to take alot of scalding baths and soak to help detract from the discomfort of neuropathic pain from a brachial plexus injury. The sensory distraction is amazing relief.
From about 24:51-32:00 his description of their relationship is my marriage for 21yrs! Actually, almost all of his relationship with her is my marriage. My husband is her. But I want to make clear that he doesn't beat me. We have gotten into a handful of mutual altercations when we were very young but that's it. The other forms of abuse ie; emotional, psychological, verbal abuse have had a huge role in the majority of our marriage. Over the last 5yrs or so we don't deal with too much of that anymore. I stayed for the same reasons he did. But this trial has answered so many questions I have had for 21yrs! It has finally given me answers to what my husband's issues really are. We've talked about it and I think he is going to seek therapy, not just for me but for himself! Maybe he will finally have answers to his own questions he's had throughout his 41yrs of life! This trial shook my whole life. I feel as if he is speaking for me! Just mind blowing to know that my support for him is truly deeper than just because he is famous. I was drawn to believe him and I didn't know why. I knew she was the abuser through her recordings. But I was unknowingly empathizing with his pain. Because I knew what it was like to be in situations like those recordings. I somehow knew or could feel his story before he got to tell it. But getting to hear him actually speak about it, and about himself and his whole life, proves he is more than just a victim to me. He's IS me! I am a woman and he represents me! Thank you Johnny for telling your story because it has opened my eyes.
RLS - It’s been five months so I hope your husband got counseling and the help he needed. It is extremely rare that a Cluster B disordered person gets help.
Johnny is the abused, Heard is the abuser. Some people may be fooled into believing Heard, but I will tell who won’t be fooled by Heard. People who have really lived in an abusive relationship, they know very well, what abusers do, and they all do the same actions. I have had 3 abusive relationships the longest 19 years, the other two lasted only as soon as they hit me once. Of course it’s I am sorry, I will never do it again, but they would have. Heard has ruined Johnny with movie deals maybe, but no matter what this jury decides, Johnny is on his way to becoming a abuse survivor. Truth is the important thing that must be said for an abuse victim to become a survivor. I think that is because abuse victims lie to protect the abuser. I did for sure, the first one, but not the other two. Johnny will always have my support, because I have been where he was. I will never support Heard, not in a movie, not as a person, she needs help!
Im an abuse survivor from my stepmother im physically disabled she used my pain meds to punish me im in severe chronic pain she made me go through withdrawls amber reminds me of my stepmother this really triggers me she called me stupid and fat they wanted me tp act mentally disabled so they could get in free to the zoo because i was in a wheelchair people already treat me bad this was extremely humiliating !
@@LWMurch thank you, like Johnny said on the stand the other day, he said he will carry what Amber did and said about him the rest of his life. He knew this, because his childhood issues, never left his mind. That is the horror of abuse, no matter what kind it is, it stays with you. I like to think of it like this, I will always be a work in progress. I don’t let what happened to me define who I am. I forgave everyone who did hurt me, because hate eats you up, and hate does define who we are. Amber never loved Johnny, and when he was done, and decided it was time to end things, she got angry and decided to ruin him. Like Johnny told her in the beginning of the divorce, if they couldn’t agree, it would be bad for both of them. Johnny will start healing once he tells his truth, but Amber I am not sure about, shes filled with spite and hate.
@@kassandraahuero7962 oh I am so sorry, the kind of abuse you went through is horrific. I never stopped recovery, it’s a every trigger opportunity, because it does stay with you every trigger. Over the years though the triggers have got less sensitive.
Watching this and reading the comments.The division between the perception of JD being a slow talker and meandering , versus his diction maintaining your attention and being poetic is interesting. In a world where everyone is fixated with sound bites this is to be expected. His use of vocabulary is refreshing when most people resort to barrages of meaningless slang with limited literary references or evidence of reading outside what's necessary to pass an exam or interview. Yes it's not a direct answer but he is painting a picture a with complete detail.
The cruelty of pushing his sister away from that island when he was trying to get sober, so selfish and arrogant to think she could replace a family member in a moment like that, turning a safe place into a mine field he had to navigate while fighnting withdrawal. Controling him over his meds and everything, making him beg. She is the monster
I must say, after dealing with my family and seeing him cope in the same way... it's actually very cathartic for me. Hearing someone else go through similar things, and reacting the same.. it really does help a ton. I just wanna hug him! 🥺
I came off of a 100 pill a day habit completely cold turkey. For me the worst part of withdrawal was the anxiety and feeling like all the light and hope had gone completely from the world. The depression was utterly crippling and the anxiety was unbearable. Not to mention punching my arms and legs for days, no sleep for 5 days in a row, not being able to eat or sleep or barely move, yet cant stop moving...you just SUFFER. Every nerve and sense in your body turns on you and punishes you. Thats when you realize that you can make your own body a hellish prison. In alot of ways thats what it is. A prison, a shell. You learn to welcome death.
1:45:47 listening to Johnny talking about how AH withheld his detox meds is such a crap thing to do. Withdrawals are no flipping joke. The thought makes me want to cry thinking about him not getting his meds when he really needed them. Especially bc AH insisted on taking over the detox process. How cruel.
I read body language very well and i'm so impressed with Depp. No self-soothing measures, indicating anxiety, no figeting, well spoken, i'm just really fucking impressed lol his body language is totally calm
I am really glad you mention the thing called “wandering speech” I have struggled with this and it has been getting progressively worse over the years. I suffer from a lot of psychological, sexual, and physical abuse, and, have largely gone without treatment or help due to having no medical coverage. I hate the compulsion of speaking like that because it makes people upset And lately I have felt like I am going crazy because I can’t seem to control it at all And it just… kills my mood. Like it is now. I dunno. I will stop here before I go do it more. But I sincerely thank you for helping me learn a little about this because at least now I can understand myself at least, even if no one else does/wants to.
There is help available for you if you can find a psychologist that has experience with speech or one you click with. Thanks 🙏 feel better. There are good listeners out there.
If you want to truly support your spouse in becoming sober, you do NOT let him open up the bottles for you, you do NOT drink near him. That's flagrantly showing him you're able to drink and he's not, and it could spiral his addiction again. It's cruel.
Especially when someone is that fresh into recovering after being sober for years. I can't imagine how fragile and tempted he felt in those situations. She's gross for the way she treated him.
As someone in recovery I don’t expect people on my life to walk on eggshells around me, I’m the one who has the addiction, not them. I don’t expect them to not enjoy alcohol, they can… they don’t have crippling addiction issues and didn’t make poor life choices that led them to the point where they could no longer enjoy alcohol
@@sjworrier0613 there's a bit of a difference between your SO enjoying a glass of wine at dinner with you and that same SO asking you to open bottles of alcohol and mix drinks for you on a daily basis then catching an attitude and picking a fight if they don't do it. Imagine how hard it would be to resist the temptation when you can smell the liquor and it's just right there, in your hands, in the glass ready to sip, no one is looking...I could take just a sip...
Exactly it's very triggering and almost impossible to change and detox in close proximity to anyone using esp your choice of numbing fuel
@@sjworrier0613 I am triggered by the smell of alcohol
All the sanitation done for covid is hell for me
When I am finally home, I am in my safe space
If my partner opens a drink inside, I'll be able to smell it for hours
Yes I don't expect them to tiptoe around me
But before drinking out, they ask me if I am okay with it that day
If they want to drink at home, they wait until I'm in bed or drink in the garden, wash their face and teeth before coming close to me again
We keep this an open conversation, as I don't want them to feel like they need to hide when they are drinking
But the truth is: I have an issue and I can't live my life as if I didn't
That's why we communicate and find ways that work for both of us
"This drug does not want you to stop taking it." Is a great choice of words.
Poor guy, the courtroom seems like the last place he wants to be.
Next to being at home with his crazy wife yeah he most likely does not want to be going over the hell he is living in.
It’s so so so hard to speak truthfully when your abuser is in the same room. It’s conditioned into a person to keep up the “image” that the abuser requires.
fact.😔
Agree!!
Yep.
TRUE TRUE. My daughter was s=$ assaulted and even though she was examined by forensic nurse. When recounted the fact, she recanted. Stupid judge wouldn’t even look at the medical reports, he said they were here say. 10 years later my daughter and I are still pissed about the corruption of the courts. $$$$$$$$$
Good point.
I grew up in domestic violence and then married an abuser for 17 years. I understand johnnys way of speaking completely
Same here not that long tho it took a lot for me to break the cycle because that's all I knew I used to b like amber when I was young ND didn't Care who it was
Exactly. He spent so long being unheard and ignored. Now he has to over explain everything out of necessity bc he's scared he'll be misunderstood
I was addicted to OxyContin after a surgery in the 90s and getting off was the most horrible thing I’ve ever lived through. Johnnys description is spot on.
I feel like they let Johnny ramble a bit to show that he remembers little details about people and situations in his life. So if he remembers those things so clearly he probably remembers what happened with Amber very clearly.
We should keep in mind he is considered one of the greatest character actors of our time; therefore, he not only was living his own life but constantly imbuing himself as other characters. Character actor’s literally take on a role by coming up with that character’s personality, childhood, major life experiences. He’s been in movies since he was 22 years old. He’s older than AH so has more life experiences and has been in many more movies. His childhood trauma was heartbreaking. But he obviously loves his children. At least he seemed to select a stable, healthy woman to have his children with and raise them together.
As someone who has a BURNING need to be understood because of being chronically and intentionally misunderstood, he speaks very similarly to me when trying desperately to be heard fully and understood completely. The repeating things again and again, the stammering over my words, the pausing and speaking very slowly to try and think of how to say things next, it's all exactly the same. He seems very genuine to me.
Copy from a comment I left elsewhere on the video, but I exactly agree.
I understand the way he's talking completely. I grew up in a household where being gaslit or having your feelings plainly ignored was a constant. When I try to explain how I'm feeling around a topic to my friends now, they often have the same reactions I've seen a lot of people have to the way Johnny speaks.
"You don't have to go into that much detail, we understand."
"I get it, it's okay, we don't have to talk about it anymore."
They mean well, and in most cases they really do understand what I'm trying to get across, but they don't understand that in my mind, if I don't explain every step of my thought process, I'm not going to BELIEVE that they understand me. Because growing up, my parents never listened to the way I was feeling, they never understood the way I was feeling, and they never let me explain the way I was feeling. Even worse, they would just deny the way I was feeling. So now it feels like if I don't explain it all, no one will understand.
Johnny didn't just go through that in childhood, he went through that for years with Amber. It's hard enough for me to get out of that mindset from my childhood now, in my 20s, I can't imagine being thrown back into it and having to get out of it all over again at his age.
Reading your comment makes things so clear for me. I have a similar problem with speaking so much so that I just try to shut up because my way of speaking just makes my spouse so upset. What you said(about being misunderstood and way of speaking) just makes so much sense.
It's very common with complex trauma. The repeating because you were never heard, speaking carefully because everything you said was held against you. It's very common. You're not alone. My heart is with you.
I have a brother who would take pieces of the truth and deliberately and intentionally weave a web of lies to misrepresent you so that others would mistreat you. He didn’t only do it to me but I was the youngest and only girl and he resented me for it. Fast forward decades later and there is a woman at work who has the same playbook. She plays the victim and if I or certain others disagree or have an opinion other than hers she will play that role. She is now the lead of our department. When your voice is taken away and you do get the opportunity to speak you try to pick your words very carefully, it’s like trying to navigate a verbal minefield. You’re afraid to tell for fear of not being believed or being accused of starting something because she’s already set it up as though she’s the victim and you’re coming for her when she’s the one who is actually vicious especially when there’s no one around to hear her.
I feel bad for all Mr.Depp has gone through. It’s a kind of damage that while it can be repaired enough to go on, you never completely erase it.
People tell me I don’t have to explain that much as well, until they witness or know what I’ve gone through as that brother can start still set something off in an instant. God bless Johnny and keep him safe.
Very well said!
As someone who’s also been thru detox, Johnny describes it perfectly as your body trying to exit itself. It’s the most vulnerable you’ll ever feel and I understand why he wouldn’t want Amber there. I’ll be 7 years clean this June. 💜
Kudos to your will and strength!
From the similar perspective (boyfriend in detox): what was miss Heard even doing around him when he was in detox? The first thing doctors do, is remove anyone who had ever taken drugs, and also family members, from "junkie"'s presence - either for suspicion they would bring them drugs, or create a situation which would aggravate detoxee's condition. Once the man has gone through the worst of it, then some short and rare visits gradually get allowed. In a nutshell, miss Heard had no business being on that island while Johnny was in detox.
Well done. Stay strong!
Congrats on the 7 years!
Well done you! I’m so proud. I just marked four years clean on October 31st. You described it perfectly!
My father is a recovering alcoholic. I have attended AA functions with him.
Here's the thing about addiction or alcoholism. Many people cannot handle being around the substance they are trying to quit. Ms. Heard claims to have attended Al-Anon meetings. She claims she was trying to support him in quitting.
If she was getting him to open bottles of wine for her, pour glasses of wine for her, and if she truly believed he was an alcoholic, then she was not supporting his sobriety. These are no nos for a spouse trying to get their spouse to quit a drug or alcohol.
You are correct that they are still allowed to drink but goes against her trying to help him stop if she was still doing it in his presence.
Thank you for this.
Yes! As a child of parents who abused drugs and alcohol and grew up in AA meetings and Al anon… this is exactly what I thought too. She is cruel and vindictive and coordinated in everything she does.
I think it depends on the person n where they are in their journey.. but I cant imagine drinking in front of a person who struggles heavily with addiction.
It's like those families on _My 600 Pound Life_ that continue making unhealthy food in the house knowing the person needs to lose weight or they'll die. Support isn't just cheering from the sidelines; it's walking through the struggle beside them.
Also he had said when he would come in every day there was a glass of wine waiting for him.
The fact that she spoke of suicide to get him to stay, knowing the situation with his mother is pure supervillain shit
Manipulation tactic
Yeah I won't deal with that BS I would straight up say do it I'm out I have seen so many ppl do that no way or I'm pregnant and then not be nuts ppl r nuts
Not supervillain at all. Just whiny spoiled teenager crap. Amber Heard sound very immature and high maintenance. I feel for Depp. A lot of guys have been through it.
@@Ipleadthefifth This was my exact reaction. Do it. I'm out.
Abusers will often do that to make you stay and control you.
Complex trauma makes it VERY VERY difficult to make sense of things and to express them in a succinct manner. I think he is doing incredibly well. He clearly has been very traumatized. I feel his struggle and his pain and even the shame he has to override in order to get all this out
Yes. ♡
I know I’m late but I’m glad so many people are bringing this up in the comments. It always takes me at least five times as long as my friends to explain even the most simple thing, unrelated to any trauma. I had to pause and check the comments because I found myself getting triggered by all the commentary on how he talks. It’s so difficult when you try to explain something while subconsciously expecting no one to understand or listen to you, or in worst case, attack you for it. It’s what happens when you grow up/live with people who will use anything and everything against you because you can never win in their mind anyway.
He’s very brave and if this isn’t genuine and coming from his heart he’d really be the best actor to have ever existed.
@@ixizn your comment has perfect timing. I am currently suffering from the effects of what you say. I've been on double BP meds and double anxiety meds for 3 days. It sucks so much. So .... your timing is perfect and much needed. Than you
@@eileencogan I am so sorry you have to go through that. I know how difficult it is. Wishing you good health and healing, you’re not alone and you deserve the support you need to get through the hard times 💜💜💜
Strangely, I don't have an issue with how slowly he speaks. Or how he has such trouble answering directly, or how he tends to go round and round... All this has to be plain HELL for him. He has PTSD.
I don’t either. I get him. Makes me feel better about my ptsd I guess....
I don’t have an issue either . I’m a creative person and it makes sense . He is very interesting to me and also his voice is so calming . And I have focus issues too. So I must be interested in the subjects he is talking about .
Same. ♡
@@jettnatchez4776 me too
I agree. I have ADHD (I believe he does as well) and recalling information on the spot can be really hard. It takes more thought for neurodivergent people to answer questions like these in real time. I would be a mess.
I understand the way he's talking completely. I grew up in a household where being gaslit or having your feelings plainly ignored was a constant. When I try to explain how I'm feeling around a topic to my friends now, they often have the same reactions I've seen a lot of people have to the way Johnny speaks.
"You don't have to go into that much detail, we understand."
"I get it, it's okay, we don't have to talk about it anymore."
They mean well, and in most cases they really do understand what I'm trying to get across, but they don't understand that in my mind, if I don't explain every step of my thought process, I'm not going to BELIEVE that they understand me. Because growing up, my parents never listened to the way I was feeling, they never understood the way I was feeling, and they never let me explain the way I was feeling. Even worse, they would just deny the way I was feeling. So now it feels like if I don't explain it all, no one will understand, no one will believe me.
Johnny didn't just go through that in childhood, he went through that for years with Amber. It's hard enough for me to get out of that mindset from my childhood now, in my 20s - I can't imagine being thrown back into it and having to get out of it all over again at his age.
I’m so sorry you have had to deal with people dismissing your feelings. They might do that because they are not sure what to say,. In any case I can relate to people dismissing feelings and treating me like I’m making it up. I hear you! 🙏🏻
I so feel this 100%. It feels hurtful when people shut me down in the middle of my thoughts. People often didn't have enough respect to let me finish. I found it to be rude. I am no longer friends with those kind of people. But it is crazy how triggering just reading the words can be! I'm sorry you have to deal with that too.
The "why he stayed" answer was so powerful. When i was a young child, my father was with someone like this for several years. She got upset if he tried to spend time with me, because she wanted his attention on her. She threatened suicide if he left. Fucking crushing to listen to this.
I’m going back and rewatching the trial, and I’m sorry Emily, it’s killing me that y’all are saying it was Camille questioning Johnny 😅😭 it was Jessica!
Haha! I noticed that too!
I keep saying that every time, but Emily doesn't listen 🤣🤣🤣
I noticed that too!
Their voices are so different - must just be a mixup in names
Same lol
When he said he stayed because his father stayed, and he had lost a good relationship, and he didn’t want to fail really makes sense to me. I mean I can understand what he was feeling even if it was illogical. He thought it could get better, even if it never does. And that sounds like a victim to me.
Part of the replay crew because I missed his testimony, and the pang I feel in my chest every time someone becomes impatient with the way he answers is personal since I tend to speak the same way. I always backtrack too far to start from the very beginning, to information that probably isn't important but to me you need to hear to understand where I got to the important part. I lose my train of thought and ramble a bit before I remember what I was saying. I've teared up several times during this testimony because he just seems to want to be heard and to have people understand him and I relate to that so heavily.
This. Let the severely traumatized man speak freely and without judgement at his own trial that he spent millions on to clear his name, please.
@@Spicy_Spores I understand why EDB was gettting annoyed with his pacing and meandering way of speaking, but I 100% agree with you and feel the same way.
The more I see people dissect the way JD talks the more I realize why my past therapists got annoyed with my dissociation and why I had to go to a trauma specialist. As SOON as my brain got near anything bad suddenly it turns into "You know how you go to the store..." instead of "I go to the store" or "Sometimes people go through this..." instead of "I went through this" - and the long winded answers of 'this is what happened, it's not their fault! it hurt. I understand though!" like - this ENTIRE thought process I'm seeing with him was all my therapy sessions leading up to me finally cutting contact with an abuser. This must have hurt him so much... and it doesn't matter if he did it already. You start talking about my past abuser and 30% I'll be okay off the bat but I will always descend back into this exact position. It's like half his brain is saying 'This is wrong. Speak up!' while learned behavior is saying 'This is wrong. It's your fault.'
Rewatching JD speak after watching AH, JD comes off so much more believable and relatable.
Also noticed, he faces the lawyers when answering their questions, he only faces the jury when he’s trying to explain “surroundings” or certain “this is what it looked like/how it works” questions. She’s looking at the jury all the time as if she’s doing an audition.
I agree, although most people speak more believably than Amber Heard in this trial
Replay crew here! What is so heartbreaking is the the fact that she KNEW his past and still treated him like his mother did!
Narcissists use your personal stuff against you.
That's why abusers target us. We learned to take a lot of abuse for love at a young age.
@@AnnaVictrix THANK YOU!! You said that so well. I would often ask myself and a few trusted friends, do I had a sign somewhere that says, "PLEASE ABUSE ME!" I know how strange that must sound to others, but my life of abuse and abusers just seemed too wild to explain otherwise!
Some people may not like the way in which he “rambles”, but it is important for him to tell his truth. He has been through an excruciatingly amount of conflict and public shame based off of exaggerations, half truths and lies. Let him explain it as he sees fit. He’s communicating his truth and we don’t know the complete psychology of the situation. Per his testimony, he doesn’t know legalese and so he is trying his best. His attorneys are doing their best to let him tell his story, and people who don’t completely know the process may have difficulty adhering to those who have been involved in the civil process difficulty expressing their story without keeping feelings and perspectives out of their testimony. Sometimes it’s hard for witnesses to pin down “the things”. So good on him for speaking his truth. If you don’t like it, watch summations of it.
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He is a victim and has spent so much time trying to clear his name because of this girl. Let him talk and heal. I hope he heals from this.
It is interesting how Johnny did go to the doctor ASAP after his finger incident, but Amber whenever she had her supposedly was given a "split lip" and black eye went on the James Corden Show and did not go and seek medical attention. Especially for something so prominent as her face compared to Depp's finger. Then, Depp, even though Heard had traumatized him and committed physical violence not once with the finger incident, but twice with the cigarette burn all within the same time frame, he tries to save face and protect Heard from the media agony if it got out that she did this. He didnt want to hurt her even then! He is a victim of DV. Heard has the audacity to be the face of DV.
The face of DV, but the *other* side....the perpetrator.
I am a pharmacist and understand the necessity of those meds, and I find him having to beg for meds to HELP him get through something safely, is INCREDIBLY BEYOND cruel. I am angry for him. So cruel and nasty. Disgusting. That she would rather watch him beg and cry than help and actually be of support. :(
As a pharmacist are you genuinely saying that Heard had a "responsibility" to provide him with prescription and illicit drug cocktail to be washed down with a few bottles of booze? Seriously? Depp had no business working while so drugged. He put everyone around him at risk.
@@ek7390 who said anything about him washing anything down with booze? That's your interpretation. I was referring to meds that help him detox. What do you think they do at a detox center? They aren't giving them the drugs that they are addicted to but supportive medication to help with withdrawal. They also administer these these in hospitals. Listen to the testimony. His doctor and his nurse were there to supervise the detox because it a process. So back to my ORIGINAL answer, what she did was cruel! There was nothing helpful about what she was doing. She wanted to watch him suffer based on testimony. Bottom line! So AS A PHARMACIST, take your clear Amber bias and get out of my comments.
@@ek7390 wow you have no clue what you are talking about, uh?
@@ek7390 well, I think it may be beneficial for you to learn how they help people detox from addiction.
@@maddicarlson4267 I think you should understand that Depp refused to go into a proper rehab facility. What do you think would have happened if Depp started flipping out and pushing a nurse at a rehab facility to get at the withdrawal meds before the allotted hour? Do you think they would have just given in and given him the meds?
Johnny is extraordinarily natural. everything is together the way he talks; his body language; his story coheres forward and backwards in time; and he's always the same guy; such a difference from Amber
45:20 disagree, I think it's a very cruel thing to do in their sobriety journey to MAKE THEM POUR WINE FOR YOU. It's like making an ex-junkie to prepare the needle for you. It's like asking someone on a diet to slice chocolate cake for you. It's cruel and inconsiderate, any good partner would support removing alcohol from the house. Where as what he's describing is she's a maniac who demanded he get sober while proceeding to get drunk herself and call him an alcoholic and terrible father.
yeh, she was so wrong when she said that. while amber is allowed, she had an issue with it so she could have should have stopped too
I know I’m very late responding here, but omg THANK YOU for saying that and articulating it so well. 💯👍👍
The detox story is heartbreaking. What a cruel woman.
I agree.. he is still trying to protect her. It sounded like she wanted him 💀. How can you look at someone you love suffer like that? So sad 😢😢
Was the recording time of the "moaning" clip ever verified? Because it sounded very much like someone writhing in opioid withdrawal agony.
He has an opportunity to tell AH his side of the story. Her face says she has never heard these things from him before. He deserves this time to say his truth.
I couldn’t have worded it any better myself !!
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As an abuse survivor, I guarantee he's said these things to her before but, yes, she didn't hear him because she was too busy screaming and blaming.
I was thinking the same, normally she would have talked over him.
She's acting. She looks like she's thinking 'Oh Johnny, how could you? It was you who abused me and i'm so sad", to match her eventual testimony that he hit her, raped her with a liquor bottle, threw her naked on broken glass and injured himself. The big lie in action. Her poor sister, obviously her first and ongoing victim on whom she honed her 'craft'; the abuse is written all over her sister's face. imo Heard is a certifiable malignant narcissist [pathological lying its foundation] not borderline personality disorder. But I don't think narcissistic personality disorder [NPD] is recognized in the DSM, maybe because there are so many of them in positions of power, especially at the top of the medical pyramid.
He seems to only be comfortable when playing a character. Doesn't seem to like the fame or anything that comes with it but is truly grateful for everything. Seems like he doesn't believe he has any worth. I completely understand what he is saying too. He did everything to avoid confrontation but he couldn't with her and it was like history repeated itself. I really empathize with him. My mom was very similar and you flash back to that throughout ur adult life, to not fail in a relationship and be everything that ur mom wasn't.
It’s crazy that she watched him like a HAWK during his ENTIRE testimony, whereas Johnny couldn’t look at her once. If this man viciously abused you physically and emotionally for years, the last thing you’d want to do is sit there and stare into their face for hours upon hours while they’re supposedly “lying” about all of it. Amber is so full of it.
I imagine he was told to do that, if he looks at her they will claim he is intimidating her.
She’s a bad actor in every sense.
100 of 100 psychiatrists surveyed would judge her to be a very vain, self righteous, drama queen, liar, who lives in delusions of persecution, an unrepentant, un self aware abuser.
I agree that the unblinking stare is a bit weird and creepy, and I'm pretty sold that she's an abuser at this point...but, I disagree with your reasoning. Having known friends who've recovered from abuse, having personally gone through SA, I think some of us can feel or fantasize about the opportunity to look your terrorizer in the eyes, stare them down, confront them, and hold them accountable. Even if they were on the stand lying about you, I can understand wanting to stare them down to call their bluff or at least let them know that you're no longer afraid. Again, I don't think that's applicable here with her, but I think you should reexamine that assumption bc it can easily go the other way, y'know?
not can't, WON"T. He told her years ago she'd never see his eyes again.
Rewatching and noticed that it was said Camille Vasquez was questioning Johnny Depp. It was another female attorney. Camille questioned Amber Heard and other witnesses. It was Jessica Meyers who questioned Johnny Depp
She stubbed out a cigarette on his face. .why is this even a question? That is horrific.
AH was so traumatized by what JD did in Australia that even her body got amnesia about her injuries...
Or maybe her magic makeup cured all. 😂😂😂
I know everyone is having trouble adapting to JD’s style of communication. As someone who also struggles with ADHD we have trouble sometimes articulating responses quickly. I personally need to prepare extensively for public speaking, you can tell he also needs a moment to think about how to answer each question, we are also known for rambling on with more information then what’s needed. Keeping it concise is a struggle , especially if we are worried we haven’t provided enough information. Going off on tangents is also part of the struggles with communication.
Yes, when I want to tell someone some small part of a movie or book I have to go on and on, practically telling the whole story, just to get to that little point I wanted to make.
@@little78lucky Yes 🙌🏻 it’s so difficult sometimes to be aware of that in the moment. This just further makes me believe he is being truthful and not providing responses that are rehearsed.
@@little78lucky yep! and then the mental fear that halfway thru i’m going to miss one tiny plot point that completely derails my train of thought, stop talking and stare into space like this🤔
exactly, i’m like how much do i have to preface this so i feel like they COMPLETELY understand
Looking back at this after Amber testified and I’m wondering if they’re both “rambling” in different ways
I understand why he was talking about the day where he drank half a glass of champagne with his crew. After years of battling addiction and alcoholism, even if it was a questionable choice to drink, he was so proud of himself for only drinking half that glass. That was a victory that he deserved to celebrate. It wasn't a perfect choice to make, but it was a stepping stone that he accomplished.
To then go back home and get berated to shit by your partner, who drinks and takes drugs around you, with whom you wanted to share what you considered this incredible moment - that's a special kind of heartache that really digs deep. You no longer feel proud of yourself, and you no longer feel like you're even allowed to be proud of yourself. Every victory you achieve will link back to that moment when it was swatted down by the person who's supposed to love you. It's a beating down on the soul.
It seemed like such an inconsequential story, but there was SO MUCH depth in that example, and I wish the lawyer had helped him highlight why that story was so important.
As someone who also battled alcoholism, that story broke my fucking heart.
It took me the better part of almost fifteen years to stop defending my abusers. I totally understand why he's still protecting her. You feel partially responsible for the actions. You wish you could have done something differently. You often wonder if you did something to cause the abuse. Boundaries are blurry, and you're thinking, if I just fight back with different tactics, be kinder, the bigger person, they'll see what they're doing and stop. But, the boundaries keep being transgressed more and more until there's nothing left. You're left with the damage, and you blame yourself in an unhealthy way. You want to protect them because you remember the person they were before the abuse, and you know it's still there somewhere. You just want to see that light again.
Really what it is, is that it becomes an ingrained habitual way of thinking; & acting to protect the image of the family that you've tried to project for so long as being a "normal" one, a "happy family", you wanted others to think that you have a good husband, that's a normal wish. Everyone wants that to be the truth of their life, but it backfires on an abuse victim because the image becomes more important than the awful reality.
I've known quite a few women, sadly in awful marriages, who took an awful lot of abuse before they finally could or would admit it to anyone, or admit it to themselves. It took what never should've had to happen for them to wake up & finally see that they were not going to change and that by them continuing to stay with their abuser, they'd not only damaged themselves, in ways they'd be trying to heal for a long time but it was also harming their children psychologically, with mental damage they'd be struggling with for a long time.
Often abused women think they're doing a good job of shielding their kids from the worst stuff, trying to mitigate the damage the kids are exposed to, by maybe having them be over at their friends or some family members homes a lot or thinking the kids were asleep or that the abuser is never mean to the kids. But then they find out years later about some of the bad moments the kids went through but never told you because they either were commanded to not tell you or they knew you'd get angry at dad & there'd be a fight, that'd end up with you either crying or actually hurt. So they never told you.
Sad thing is, while the abuser was driving you into numbness, depression, until you were barely able to function, he also thereby stole YOU from his own children, he stole the real you from them, a happy, attentive mom, focused on her children, so the lasting damage goes far deeper than a person stuck in abuse realizes.
If they';ve done it once, then twice, do not wait for the 3rd time.
@@KathyHussey063 100%. That's some real insight.
@@Tinuvielthefair I'd ...well I'd say thank you, but I hate the fact that I know those things from others relationships with sick people AND my own experience in just such a marriage for 27+ years and I hate that you have been through enough to recognize how true it all is (what I commented before). I didn't have the internet through my 27+ years of hell, if I had, at least I would've understood they don't ever change or return to the kind, respectful person they pretended to be when you met them. At least I might have known what the real issue was (that they're not able to be "normal", they don't have empathy, not enough when it comes to others feelings, their feelings always come first & their feelings are insane, so....) It's funny how so many of them latch onto strong, capable, intelligent women, then they'll spend every day trying to break her spirit, tear her heart out, tear her down to nothing. We all believe they would never treat their children bad, and mostly they won't.... until they do...until that child does not totally worship them anymore and maybe can see some of their awful flaws or dares to express their dislike for some of his offensive ways. Then as the kid grows into teen hood, young adulthood, the child becomes another grown up who sees who they really are and they hate to be seen.I regret letting him take so ,much of me away from my kids, even though I worked hard trying to keep the damage away from them, it has only been in the last 12 years that they've told me some things he did or didn't do, because he passed away in 2010. More damage was done in so many small ways, for 4xample one of my daughters repeated my life unknowingly.....only how is she unraveling the damage at 38 years old. It breaks mu heart.
He remembers points in his life based on what movies he was in at the time. I've had a good handful of jobs, so I do the same. It seems like he associates things alot. That's a sign of a great memory.
She didn’t want to give him the meds for his withdrawal a little early because she had complete and total control over him. Wouldn’t be surprised if she got enjoyment and satisfaction out of making him beg like that. It really tells you what kind of person she is. She’s really horrible. I couldn’t imagine doing that to anyone, let alone someone I love. Although, I don’t think she ever truly loved Johnny. She loves herself and that’s it. That’s just my opinion though.
As someone who has been through something like that, my narcissistic abuser absolutely relished having control and making me beg.
It not just the making him beg, it’s getting to LOOK like you are doing the right thing while actually enjoying inflicting pain.
I get what you are saying. I don't think a layperson should ever dole meds out for someone though. I did this for someone close to me and it was a total disaster and it can destroy a relationship. Because a person is addicted for a reason. Addiction is not a choice. Should be done by a professional.
@@xino_z exactly you shouldn't and dont want to be around loved ones... You want to die literally...thats why people keep on using even when they want to stop
@@xino_z Agreed. It can really fuck up the relationship and it is so easy to fall into that trap when you care about somebody. Amber should not have been the one with the power to withhold or give meds.
Aside from anything else, it wasn't fair for her to be put in that position. He had the resources to be with independent people looking after him, although I understand he may not have wanted that (or she might not have).
Never been a huge Depp fan but I gotta say, I'm team Depp on this one
Ohhhh, he said he didn't feel any pain initially when his finger was smashed. That's why Amber keeps saying she didn't feel any pain in any of the supposed incidents. I wondered why she kept saying she didn't feel any pain for these obviously excruciatingly painful situations she's been describing. Dr. Curry was spot on with her analysis of Amber Heard
And she called liquor spirits too I had wondered why an American woman her age would call it that. Now I know. Also going back and rewatching his testimony
Yeah I think his not feeling pain must have had to do with shock and probably something to do with how the nerves got severed. I don't remember her talking about how much pain she felt during or after being beaten but I remember her saying several times "it didn't hurt". It's very odd to say the least and what you say makes sense!
@@melodylinsmeyer8616 Actually I’m a few years younger than her and I call them spirits. If you’re a Wine/Spirits nerd you might just refer to them that way.
@@anaturalwoman I was taken aback when she testified that when the SA with the liquor bottle was happening that she couldn’t feel pain, but she felt pressure, and that she thought he was punching her there with a fist and then looked down and it was a bottle. It made little sense to me.
I assumed she said that because it made acting out the lie easier. She already had to feign emotional pain; feigning a sense memory of physical pain she didn't experience would be too taxing. Easier to just stipulate that she wasn't aware of pain, so as not to give jurors more reason to doubt her story.
I really enjoy the way he talks, it is kinda rambling but it's also a bit poetic and witty and his analogies are quality
As someone who has been through abuse and trauma, it's really really hard to put it into words. It's really hard to explain. I know for me, it doesn't always feel real. Like I'm making it up, even though it's true.
Its also my experience that you are desperate to make it work. I think he regretted leaving Vanessa for amber. He knew that since he lost all that to be with her, your gonna do everything in your power to make it work so you don't hear, I told you so.
Definitely fits into the sunk cost fallacy for me. If you put everything into something then when you feel like you fail, then what was all that work and effort for.
@@kathleenbielecki6814 yup. Ive experienced it in the past, where so many people warn you about a person and a situation but being in the situation, you don't see what everyone else does and you follow ur heart, so when things get bad, you try ur damnest to make it work and don't admit to yourself that everyone was right.
Ya it doesn't come eventually but in the moment, u don't see it which is the hard part.
I didn’t care for Johnny Depp much, but after listening to him… I am a fan.
Same here
Same here
No. This is his time for telling his story, and being able to speak without being interrupted. Must be absolutely killing ah.
*The true story.
yes.
What's really incredible is, is Johnny turned this into an autobiography but his team still had time left at the end and hers used almost all.
Sorry for the spoilers 😂
So she moved all her friends into his penthouses to live for free, he paid for all her expenses, she rushed the wedding procedures then got angry about her potential inheritance (or lack there of) then allegedly didn't donate her settlement money from the divorce? 👀
Nice recap and true and can end the trial ! Oh no let's enjoy more of this decent beautiful man !
Right, Yet she’s the victim!
She's a hot mess obviously
His private life is still private hers is different relationships and trying to stay in the public eye.
And if she just kept quiet afterwards she could of just walked with the 7 million.
Heard only looks broken due to her realization she fucked up by bringing it this far.. Justice for Johnny!
When your in this type of abuse it is difficult to remember, it is difficult to define the abuse because it's so jumbled. He is doing a great job!
I remember telling my girlfriend I was going to the garage to get tools ready for the home improvement she wanted me to do the next day. I got my impact driver, half a dozen screws, went into the spare room and screwed the door shut behind me. I later found the strength to leave but it cost me £20,000. It’s a lot to a working man. I only have my dignity to show for it which I should have by default. You’re not on your own JD. I hope you get over this.
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I'm so sorry, that happened to you. I hope you are doing great now.
@@bethanychatman9531 Thank you. I’m in Kos airport departure lounge with a wonderful woman having had a fantastic holiday and even a delayed plane can’t wipe the smile off my face. That life and now are poles apart. 👍👍👍
I'm a victim of abuse. I say that to say this: I know from personal experience I was so scared people would missunderstand me or restructure my words or my answer that i have to over explain how everything came about just to try and make sure no one can missunderstand me. I think thats what hes doing here. hes over explaining because thats how he has learned to communicate.
A lot of really good story tellers are that way because details are the only way we can ensure people see why we did/do things.
I know that fear when you try to answer a question and all you can do is try and over explain to avoid the issue at hand. Stomach twists in knots, i start shaking violently, i think this is just what he is trying to deal with.
Replay crew . Was not that interested in this case until my fav Atty covered it. Now I’m addicted to every word. JD is definitely not the fast talking, outspoken, don’t give a 💩 person I thought he was from his film rolls. He’s so down to earth and relatable.
As someone who struggled with a back injury from my freshman year as a dance major. To finally having a back specialist believe me when I begged many years for help and performed a lumbar spinal fusion when I turned 31, I can completely relate to his opiate addiction. I was able to transition to a medication that allows me to not take opiates, but I must have it on me at all times… otherwise things will quickly get real bad. Withdrawal is one of the most painful things to experience and I feel like his moaning audio is from him dealing with the withdrawal on the plane, that’s just what it immediately made me think of. I don’t even know how he could fly back to LA while in the middle of his detox, it would be impossible for me.
It’s beyond triggering to know how she treated him while he was detoxing. I’m horrified by this and can only imagine how traumatizing that was for him. The restless leg syndrome alone freaks me out when I think of it, you’re entire body is shaking and you can’t control it. Please know I supported her in the beginning. I’m a completely left leaning feminist and based on this trial I don’t believe a word of it from her.
proud of you because all that matters is we support whoever tells the truth.
Omgd! I mean, this is horrendous. This woman has the guts to come back at him. I am always in awe at how people like her get away with gross abuse like this.
I think it would be wise to hear her side of the story before we jump on the “awe poor Johnny” boat. She was the one who alleged abuse first and he was the one who made her sign an NDA 😂…. It’s literally why this whole case is happening in the first place
@@sjworrier0613 She claimed she was going to donate the 7 million...never did. The NDA I imagine is so she cant keep coming back for more ransom money.
Song was Death and Resurrection. He talked about it at nearly every concert w Jeff. And that was name of their tour.
Re watching.
I’m HAPPY they let him talk. That’s alllll he wanted to do. He just wanted to be heard. His attorneys blessed his wishes.
Why can’t I like this beautiful comment 100 times?! ❤️❤️
I think Amber Heard not only escalated the arguments.. she instigated them. I've dealt with people like her in the past .. they are very manipulative and narcissistic, pushing buttons every chance they get. NOT the behavior one would adopt if they were 'afraid' ..
I don’t know who is telling the truth, and who is garbage, but I know I could listen to this man talk for the rest of my days and never be bored. His tone, and pitch…..
Johnny’s communication style reminds me very much of my own. I get lost in my thoughts (adhd) feelings are hard because of my traumatic childhood. I understand him very well. If we answer impulsively it’s not usually correct. He tells stories to get his point across. I know people get bored by it. There are tidbits that paint a complete picture to me. He skips the pain because it’s hard to handle in front of other people, let alone the world.
In aware that it may not have a caring on the defamation argument, and that AH may have her demons and JD may not be a perfect person, but throwing heavy bottles at someone and arubbing out cigarettes on their face is horrific. I have no words. I'm disgusted.
Amber Heard seems like a gaslighting abusive partner at this point!
She seems to be just staring ahead zoned out during this testimony. I’d love to be a fly on the wall once she’s out of the court during this, I bet she’s so angry!
I honestly believe that if he hadn’t left she would’ve killed him.
I am surprised he didn't channel Secret Window movie.
Outrageous she didn't have kids! WTF is he
I just got out of a relationship where the person would gaslight me and use the trauma that I've experienced against me in arguments to get their point across. I'm never going back, and I hope no one else has to experience something like that.
JD seems damaged, but genuine. I would suggest he gets serious counseling before he ever allows himself into another relation. Abuse is cyclical, he will keep choosing the same kind of person, until he sorts out his past.
AH seems like she "acting" damaged. She comes across so far as a bit of a vulnerable narcissist. Constantly pushing toward an abusive outcome because it's what she is comfortable with. She also needs serious counseling if she ever wants to have a healthy relationship or she will always be angry and unhappy.
In their own weird way, it would seem both people seek damaged people to offset their own damage.
I think her new baby is Plan B, if Musk really is the father!
Even when she cracks and shows true emotion she appears cold and distant. Someone who is unapproachable.
If you’ve watched Emily long enough you’ll know that her brain works super fast. She’s brilliant and insightful but not patient with slow speakers like Depp. She did get better. I’ve found that watching the trial first with no commentary then listening to Emily’s commentary fully informs you. You first hear the testimony then you go hear Emily explain the legal process happening and her hilarious asides. ❤
2:28:50 So I initially saw the most recent coverage of this case that includes Amber’s testimony, and how she bizarrely described not feeling pain, just feeling the heat and pressure of Johnny’s boot in her back from the plane flight from Boston to LA… I’m literally appalled after watching this. She’s copying how Johnny’s describing the Australia incident where he lost his finger in every fictional incident she’s created. From the screaming, to the embarrassment, to the shock. She’s watching the jury and I’m sure she sees how taken they were with his description of his feelings and thoughts, and in my opinion without any genuine feelings to go off of, she is using Johnny’s as her own.
I already wasn’t buying her story, not just because the way she tells it involves intense emotion with no real substance in her words, details are missing or skipped over, her face scrunching up when she ‘cries’ but no actual redness showing up or tears, when describing an incident in which Johnny sexually assaulted her in a jealous rage after she was talking to a co-star or something, she says “I won’t embarrass *you*” when pretending to speak as though she was Johnny before quickly correcting herself and saying “You won’t embarrass me”. I know it seems small, but to me that’s a very clear slip up to what I believe really happened. She assaulted Johnny in response to her jealousy over attention he was getting, got triggered over the potential loss of him, and all her testimony is really what she did to Johnny, pretending to be him and mimic what she believes he felt. It’s why it comes across as scattered and disingenuous. You can’t really fake something you didn’t feel.
…If only she was a better actress.
Improv classes would have done wonders for her. It would have helped her with coming up with details on the spot. She needed more time to become a seasoned actress.
So right! I didn’t put that together when she said it didn’t hurt! I was just confused.
She is not a very good actress / wife/ person at all. It appears she has taken down people before this she seems confident and composed not at all the victim she wants to put out to the public.
It’s a good thing that AH is NOT a better actress or Mr Depp would have had a much harder time of it and might not have had his slam dunk wouldn’t have been awarded $10 million in Damages…and $5 million in punitive damages
So I saw someone else say that the attorneys might be letting him talk uninterrupted is to show that he remembers all the details and that made me think of *maybe* they also are trying to just let the jury “get to know him.”
Is that a strategy? To counteract the celebrity, the legendary status, any preconceived notions, the “otherness” of him that the jury might not relate to or understand, they want the jury to get a sense of who he is?
Hi everybody!! I am a 3rd year uni student studying neuroscience and he thinks very abstractly. So how he explains himself is kind of like, what people refer to as a ‘thought loop’. It can be hard to follow - but think about it like this: he uses analogies to explain his life experiences little by little, and then links all of those back to a general/vague question or statement. :)
I love his voice, his manner of speech, his timing and especially his descriptive style. Wonder if he’ll ever write a book on addiction?
Ref Dark Humor. It’s a coping mechanism in very difficult situations. Has anyone else thought how their text message or emails between your own close friends would translate in a courtroom??
🤣🤣 o God I hope I never have to get called to the stand
Oh I thought so as well. I pretty much said so many nasty stuff against my best friend's exes. Oof, kinda scary that dark jokes like those could be twisted as genuine threats in the court.
From my own experience, it’s so much easier to talk about a disease, like addiction, that has torn your world apart than to say something about your abuser.
I’m also a little bit in love with the closed captions.
My dad talks like him. Almost exactly. He has severe social anxiety and adhd and he always has long answers to “easy” questions because in his brain there is no easy answer. He is also an old soul and super reserved. He loves until people, even those who hurt him, until it becomes so toxic that something clicks and he realizes he can’t “save” the person. Plus he looks like JD. So nothing about how he talks bothers me in the least. We old school Hoosiers tend to have this type of cadence.
Is ur dad a crack head wtf r
As I sit here and watch her face and her micro aggressive expressions, and her short micro expressions of satisfaction as he explains what he felt makes me literally sick. My mother did exactly what AH did as she abused me as a child and got away with it, making herself the victim in a situation where she was the abuser. The way her eyes change, my mothers and many other family members did the same. She isn't hiding that she's going to create a narrative around what he's saying to invalidate his trauma, at all. The smug satisfaction micro expressions are what really bother me. He's struggling, and she's enjoying it. I really really hope he is vindicated and the world hears his truth. Before seeing this, I wasn't sure what I believed. Now, I see it very clearly. He is a victim and I believe him.
I am sorry that you had such a mother....I know a liitle about narcissist......As for Johnny Depp...I think that at least..he is winning in the court of Public opinion...she IS a monster....and even used the me too movement. He facial expressions say a lot..
I had skipped over Johnny's testimony, so I'm backtracking to catch up. I will say that I am more emotionally affected by JD's story than Amber's despite hers being much more graphic and her showing more "emotion." While that doesn't automatically mean Amber's lying, her more theatrical presentation coupled with how excessive the violence was (with little mention of how she hid broken bones without medical care) isn't resonating with me like a simple, "She threw a remote at my head."
I just want to say I’ve stumbled on your channel today and I really enjoy your commentary on this case. One thing I do see a lot of comments on is that when you’ve gone through a relationship with a volatile partner it’s really difficult to even think about what happened let alone tell others. Normally I’m a pretty quick talker and almost manic when I’m happy but whenever I talk about what happened with my ex it’s so hard to get any words out. I stutter and I feel almost slow and stupid because I’m so overwhelmed I can barely get the words out. Maybe his cadence is always this slow but I imagine that he’s having a hard time trying to piece together exactly what happened because it was so traumatic his brain gets scattered when he goes near the topic. I really feel for him so this is hard to watch but I think I owe it to him to hear him out and listen to the entirety of his story because I would want others to do the same for me.
Johnny describes trauma bonding when he describes why he stayed. Trauma bonding is created by a sweet-mean cycle when the abuser starts with love bombing and over time becomes abusive and then the abuser alternates between abuse and intermittent love bombing. It's the same phenomenon as playing a slot machine. It starts with an early win, and the gambler then chases the high of the win. The abuser will treat the victim really well, and then intermittently abuse and go back and forth between those cycles. The cycle of abuse becomes shorter and shorter over time. He describes this phenomenon in his testimony and in his emails and text messages. Another thing that happens in abuse is that the abuser will convince the victim they are responsible for the conflict and the victim will then take responsibility for creating the conflict. In this case, Amber preyed on his drug and alcohol use to spin it into the reason for Johnny's "abusive" behavior -- that's why she coined the term "monster" to make Johnny believe that he was a monster when on drugs and to spin it to outsiders (that's why she told all his and her friends and families about his drug use) that he was out of control under the influence of drugs. He's describing, without the vocabulary, the process of abuse.
If his drug and alcohol use had really been the problem, she would not have been heavily drinking and doing drugs in front of him. The drugs in Australia were for her. In that audio, she admits she was on Xanax, Adderall, ecstasy, and hallucinogens. The wedding invites -written by Amber- included "dancing and drugs" - when she was supposedly concerned about his drug use. Why does this make any sense? It doesn't, so it's not true. The reverse seems to be true, that she was often high and drunk (we hear from audios) a lot and that drove her abuse of him.
The therapist had no business treating these two when she was informed of abuse. Once there is a report of abuse, she should have stopped therapy because abuse is not a couple's problem. I question if she had the qualifications to treat domestic violence and if she didn't, she probably shouldn't have because that's a violation of her professional ethics.
I watched most of the trial live without commentary with Law & Crime but I'm watching this all again for your takes which I'm really enjoying
Is it possible that his slow, wandering cadence influenced the decision to put him on the stand this early? Like wanting to present him to the jury while their attention is more fresh?
Aside from this one point- I love Emily’s commentary. Amber said she went to Al-Anon. I grew up sitting in the back of AA meetings and going to Ala-teen because of my family member who is a recovering alcoholic. You absolutely don’t have alcohol around if you want to support someone’s sobriety. She said she tried everything and drank two bottles a day. Imagine being sober around that every day. She made the alcohol very accessible to him by having it in the house. Her drinking in the house they share absolutely can impact his sobriety. This point bothered me every time she’d discuss it. She’s selfish and she wanted to control him.
She burnt him with a cigarett in the face while he was bleeding! That is horrible. That is not normal behavior.
I love him and his testimony. So far he comes across as truthful, kind and even battered.
He doesn't seem like a man who would tell everybody about the ongoings of his relationship. Like those couples that every time I get in a fight they post something and you wonder why are they even together. He doesn't seem like that type at all so I would imagine it makes him uncomfortable to have to talk about it so everyone is watching
Watching months later. I missed so much as I was working. Thank you
i've been rewatching jthe trial because i only really caught about halfway though it when it was live but here's something interesting that comes back up later: at 34:54 he says "what can you do?" talking about not wanting to fight back and forth about being a monster or not. he then says "you accept her vernacular. you accept the WORD that SHE uses then you use that word... to placate her so that it would at least calm part of the aggression." isn't that what she was trying to do later with the pledged/donated fiasco?! she was trying to get camille to use HER word and camille wasn't taking the bait! the fact that camille refused to back down from using "donated" only riled amber up more which aligns with johnny's testimony here to a tee!
I never thought about it like that!
Wow good point!!! 👍👍 (sorry I’m so late commenting here 😅)
He made me sob as it brought me back to where I was in my own life. Heard just pissed me off. It didn't feel the same. One made me feel like I was reliving personal stuff one made me think "you're so full of shit" and I rolled my eyes multiple times during her testimony..I just couldn't help it.
The part about Amber wanting to get her name tattooed on him. She was just trying to find her place in the diary of John. 😆
It sounds like he didn't even know the answer to why did he stay until he was asked it? It is a crazy thing to answer in front of the world.
Wow! When he talked about the hot shower and tricking your body, I fully understand but in a different sense. I get scalding hot showers to deal with my chronic pain and I stay in there until the water is cold. It really does take the focus away from other pain. And when you are in that much pain, any diversion is welcomed.
It does I would go sit in the tub for a while and do that several times a day until it was time to sleep. If I could have slept through it all I would have. Had to go through a few times after major surgery and then again after being on pain meds for years with my back. It’s horrible.
I have to take alot of scalding baths and soak to help detract from the discomfort of neuropathic pain from a brachial plexus injury. The sensory distraction is amazing relief.
Johnny Depp is not capable of giving a yes no answer. He needs to express himself. that's just him.
From about 24:51-32:00 his description of their relationship is my marriage for 21yrs! Actually, almost all of his relationship with her is my marriage. My husband is her. But I want to make clear that he doesn't beat me. We have gotten into a handful of mutual altercations when we were very young but that's it. The other forms of abuse ie; emotional, psychological, verbal abuse have had a huge role in the majority of our marriage. Over the last 5yrs or so we don't deal with too much of that anymore. I stayed for the same reasons he did. But this trial has answered so many questions I have had for 21yrs! It has finally given me answers to what my husband's issues really are. We've talked about it and I think he is going to seek therapy, not just for me but for himself! Maybe he will finally have answers to his own questions he's had throughout his 41yrs of life! This trial shook my whole life. I feel as if he is speaking for me! Just mind blowing to know that my support for him is truly deeper than just because he is famous. I was drawn to believe him and I didn't know why. I knew she was the abuser through her recordings. But I was unknowingly empathizing with his pain. Because I knew what it was like to be in situations like those recordings. I somehow knew or could feel his story before he got to tell it. But getting to hear him actually speak about it, and about himself and his whole life, proves he is more than just a victim to me. He's IS me! I am a woman and he represents me! Thank you Johnny for telling your story because it has opened my eyes.
RLS - It’s been five months so I hope your husband got counseling and the help he needed. It is extremely rare that a Cluster B disordered person gets help.
Johnny is the abused, Heard is the abuser. Some people may be fooled into believing Heard, but I will tell who won’t be fooled by Heard. People who have really lived in an abusive relationship, they know very well, what abusers do, and they all do the same actions. I have had 3 abusive relationships the longest 19 years, the other two lasted only as soon as they hit me once. Of course it’s I am sorry, I will never do it again, but they would have.
Heard has ruined Johnny with movie deals maybe, but no matter what this jury decides, Johnny is on his way to becoming a abuse survivor. Truth is the important thing that must be said for an abuse victim to become a survivor. I think that is because abuse victims lie to protect the abuser. I did for sure, the first one, but not the other two.
Johnny will always have my support, because I have been where he was. I will never support Heard, not in a movie, not as a person, she needs help!
Im an abuse survivor from my stepmother im physically disabled she used my pain meds to punish me im in severe chronic pain she made me go through withdrawls amber reminds me of my stepmother this really triggers me she called me stupid and fat they wanted me tp act mentally disabled so they could get in free to the zoo because i was in a wheelchair people already treat me bad this was extremely humiliating !
I am so sorry this happened! I hope you have/continue to recover! 🤗 Peace.
@@kassandraahuero7962 I am sorry, this had to be extremely awful situation for you.
@@LWMurch thank you, like Johnny said on the stand the other day, he said he will carry what Amber did and said about him the rest of his life. He knew this, because his childhood issues, never left his mind. That is the horror of abuse, no matter what kind it is, it stays with you. I like to think of it like this, I will always be a work in progress. I don’t let what happened to me define who I am. I forgave everyone who did hurt me, because hate eats you up, and hate does define who we are. Amber never loved Johnny, and when he was done, and decided it was time to end things, she got angry and decided to ruin him. Like Johnny told her in the beginning of the divorce, if they couldn’t agree, it would be bad for both of them. Johnny will start healing once he tells his truth, but Amber I am not sure about, shes filled with spite and hate.
@@kassandraahuero7962 oh I am so sorry, the kind of abuse you went through is horrific. I never stopped recovery, it’s a every trigger opportunity, because it does stay with you every trigger. Over the years though the triggers have got less sensitive.
“Why didn’t he want to put her in that mix?”
Why does ANY DV victim protect their abuser? It’s not hard to understand.
To be fair, I think she meant that his attorney should ask him that question to make it clear to the jury that he was protecting her.
Watching this and reading the comments.The division between the perception of JD being a slow talker and meandering , versus his diction maintaining your attention and being poetic is interesting. In a world where everyone is fixated with sound bites this is to be expected. His use of vocabulary is refreshing when most people resort to barrages of meaningless slang with limited literary references or evidence of reading outside what's necessary to pass an exam or interview. Yes it's not a direct answer but he is painting a picture a with complete detail.
The cruelty of pushing his sister away from that island when he was trying to get sober, so selfish and arrogant to think she could replace a family member in a moment like that, turning a safe place into a mine field he had to navigate while fighnting withdrawal. Controling him over his meds and everything, making him beg. She is the monster
I must say, after dealing with my family and seeing him cope in the same way... it's actually very cathartic for me. Hearing someone else go through similar things, and reacting the same.. it really does help a ton. I just wanna hug him! 🥺
It does feel like he is still walking on eggshells with his answers.
I came off of a 100 pill a day habit completely cold turkey. For me the worst part of withdrawal was the anxiety and feeling like all the light and hope had gone completely from the world. The depression was utterly crippling and the anxiety was unbearable. Not to mention punching my arms and legs for days, no sleep for 5 days in a row, not being able to eat or sleep or barely move, yet cant stop moving...you just SUFFER. Every nerve and sense in your body turns on you and punishes you. Thats when you realize that you can make your own body a hellish prison. In alot of ways thats what it is. A prison, a shell. You learn to welcome death.
1:45:47 listening to Johnny talking about how AH withheld his detox meds is such a crap thing to do. Withdrawals are no flipping joke. The thought makes me want to cry thinking about him not getting his meds when he really needed them. Especially bc AH insisted on taking over the detox process. How cruel.
Amber has been looking like she is just doing the court a favor by being there. I have an open mind but the 'ef you attitude is strong with her.
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I read body language very well and i'm so impressed with Depp. No self-soothing measures, indicating anxiety, no figeting, well spoken, i'm just really fucking impressed lol his body language is totally calm
I am really glad you mention the thing called “wandering speech”
I have struggled with this and it has been getting progressively worse over the years.
I suffer from a lot of psychological, sexual, and physical abuse, and, have largely gone without treatment or help due to having no medical coverage.
I hate the compulsion of speaking like that because it makes people upset
And lately I have felt like I am going crazy because I can’t seem to control it at all
And it just… kills my mood.
Like it is now.
I dunno. I will stop here before I go do it more. But I sincerely thank you for helping me learn a little about this because at least now I can understand myself at least, even if no one else does/wants to.
There is help available for you if you can find a psychologist that has experience with speech or one you click with. Thanks 🙏 feel better. There are good listeners out there.