for anyone who is reading this comment wondering which video endtroducing was in, it was the ‘5 albums to get you into trip hop’ vid! a great watch as well.
Since I Left You and Shades of Blue are not plunderphonics. They are sample based albums, which is not the same thing. Also, not including Negativland is like not including Black Sabbath on a metal list.
That cold feeling of dying or rotting over time defines the cold sound of the album, it replicates (the track) describes the depressive and depressing atmospheric sound that the album has, it is my
And his hour long Miles Davis guide? This dude could just wipe out all shit music magazines and start his own if he wanted to. A fucking legend indeed.
Yeah, it's uncomfortable for me. Seriously. Eww. Triggers my OCD. A bit like Floral Shoppe but even worse. Just not for me I'm afraid... idk, might revisit some day. It gives me that whiplash/tic feel
That is one of the most experimental and academic John Oswald has sounded... it's an important record but I think his stuff really shines when you listen to something like Dab (from MJ's Bad). The way that song is used almost in a fractal distorted "concerning" way is incredible and really scratches an itch for sample heavy music I never knew I had.
Just listened to the John Oswald record and my world turned upside down. It was challenging to listen to almost gave me a headache but goddamn it was great. Took a couple minutes to get used to the concept but everything afterwards was an amazing experience. It reminded me of movies where they watch TV and switch between channels and the sound of different shows line up perfectly to make sentences, but like the music equivalent. Definitely gonna check more of this, thanks for making videos about these niche genres dude.
for more john oswald you should check out plunderphonics’ S/T (an album john did earlier than plexure) and plunderphonics 69/96 (a compilation). the s/t is available for free somewhere on his site
Discovered The Avalanches 2 years ago by complete accident. Within 3 weeks, I had listened to all 3 albums multiple times. Saw them in concert over the summer last year. Phenomenal musicians
Plunderphonics is one of my all time favorite genres. The books - The Way Out, and Kids and Explosions - Shit Computer are 2 of my all time favorite albums.
Yes! Every list I find for plunderphonics never seems to have The Books on it which is a shame. The Way Out is just such an amazing and unique experience.
This is the second time you’ve done one of these, “5 albums to get you into” lists where I discover I’m a big fan of a genre that I didn’t even know existed! (The other being “Pigfuck”!) I love three of these albums (particularly Replica, Shades of Blue, and more than anything else, Since I Left You), and actually, I’ve listened to them enough times that they rank pretty high up on the list of albums I’ve listened to most in my life. At one point or another in my life, they’ve all had very important meaning, intimately connected to some life defining experiences in my youth, so I literally can’t listen to them without waves of nostalgia. That’s not always a good thing, but I definitely would have to include them amongst my fav albums. It’s funny, as much as I adore, Since I Left You, I haven’t listened to it probably more than once or twice since 2016, or whenever their sophomore album came out. That album is just so closely tied to my experiences as an early-mid 20something psychedelic freak, and last time I listened to it I got too emotional, even felt “flashbacky” at certain points, and not exactly in a good way, but I still have to include it in my fav albums OAT, and will always cherish it as a soundtrack to my youth. I’d listen to it now, just to revisit and see if I can listen without the annoying flashbacks to friends and lovers no longer with, but I’m almost religiously opposed to playing that album in winter... it’s sac-relig to play that thing in cold weather, let alone without sunshine! I agree with you almost 100% on Girl Talk, and haven’t listened to any of his albums in years, not since probably my mid-late 20s.. It was basically unavoidable to hear about him/know his music, bc he’s from the same town as I am, and there was a time, well over ten years ago by now, where every other week I’d hear someone talking about how awesome his stuff was, followed by, “and he’s from Pittsburgh too!”.. lol, when you’re from a city like this anyone who makes it big at all is considered a town hero.. If I remember correctly, the mayor of the city actually made an official “Girl Talk Day”, or maybe it was a week? I can’t remember, all I know is that I never could get into his albums, mo matter how hard I tried, and I used to get annoyed hearing so many people around me praising him.. I’ve somehow never heard of Oswald (or maybe I did and can’t remember), which seems weird, bc this is right up my alley, and I kind of pride myself with knowing the innovators and “firsts”, particularly where electronic music is concerned. I’m definitely excited to check him out, though! Anyway, great vid, glad to see the content getting pumped out, Olly. Definitely looking forward to your AOTY lists, I’ve been working on mine, and favs per genre, etc... It’s absurd the time I spend doing it, only to share them with friends, but since I was like 15-16, it’s been one of my favorite yearly rituals, even though 9/10 I hate the lists that most publications come up with. Anyway, I’ll stfu now! ❤️🏴♾✌️
In listening to Plunderphonics by John Oswald for the first time, I find myself playing a fun game: how many samples can I recognize? This album is definitely an exercise in how to listen to music one is unfamiliar with, as well as a true landmark of discovery. This album almost feels like a scrap artist taking bits and pieces they like from pre-existing material and creating a new sculpture out of it (this is a stretch, but think of Dean from Iron Giant). Absolutely enjoyed the listen and it will find its way into my playlists for housework or getting things done on the computer
Anything that is an 'exercise' is concept over aesthetics. Post modernist concepts have killed modern art and made people prefer torturous noise drones over well constructed music (because its not 'cool' to be technically proficient). It is harder to make ground breaking music that doesn't insult the ears but why give too much credit to those that do, when you can create music and art for idiots that think 'I can do that'.
@@apexscape Plunderphonics is more of an ethos and methodology than a genre. Donuts is 100% an example of Plunderphonics, especially if you're going by the examples in this video, but it is also a sample based hip-hop album.
@@alexpegg5760 Donuts isn't plunderphonics, it's just an instrumental hip hop album. Plunderphonics is not just sampling, it's a more specific style of sampling that often plays along with the familiarity of the music being sampled, something that doesn't apply to SILY, Donuts, Endtroducing.
The only right decision i've ever made was buying the vinyl while it was still in stock. Now its going for >50 at the least. legitimately great plunderphonics album actually
There's an artist I would REALLY recommend in this specific department, and it's no wonder you don't know 'em 'cause they're danish and not that much famous outside the nation. Den Sorte Skole (IE: The Black School) is an act that very finely dances the line between DJ'ing and composing, and they do it with such finesse it's quite amazing. Started out with somewhat of a concept for the first albums, all named "Lektion (Lesson) *number*", taking danish or international underground old music and splicing it together, creating atmospheres that bounce between sombre, intricate moods to intense, banging styles. Their first two "lessons" somewhat mimick that of Girl Talk, what with talking pre-existing tracks and neatly mixing parts of them together, but with as I mentioned a more dark tone to it (Portishead to rap to a tech-mix of A Nightmare Before Christmas). But where they truly shine is on "Lektion 3", which still to my mind is their magnum opus (and one of my favorite albums ever). With this one they go a step further, piecing out very small components of different songs (a 3-second string loop here, a knife-percussion there, a synth-base tone with a good timbre over there); not to mention the fact they went through over 500 pieces of music, with some loops being ancient (over 80 years old), and others being a folk-song from a distant Vietnamese jungle - and the album feels that way too, like a journey through genres, through cultures and the world, through the natural world w. folk music to the industrialized, smoky world w. skittish electro. It's really gorgeous, and my depiction probably doesn't give it enough credit, 'cause it is also one of those immerse-yourself-records.
I’m so fucking glad that you’re uploading again. These videos are great, especially when it’s regarding something I’m completely unfamiliar with, like this one. Very excited to see the rest of the content you’ve got planned for the near future
I'm studying all this for my masters and you're literally mentioning everything I've been researching. Hauntology, what an interesting concept. And how it mixes with nostalgia, the subtle differences and similarities between each. Plunderphonics is such a controversial style (or shall we call it mashups?) but I suppose that's exactly what you want when you're writing an academic piece of music/context. Thanks for the overview~ and props for mentioning music that you both like and dislike.
After listening to John Oswald's Plexure, I've got to say, what a bizarre album, containing such an insane amount of samples, almost never sticking around for more than a second or 2, yet managing to sound so oddly cohesive at the same time, the breakneck pace of this sampling still sticking to a particular feel within a genre for a while before moving on in a way that both feels natural, yet just as all over the place and chaotic as this album on the whole. Brief moments of reprieve throughout quickly falling back into the disorienting tone that makes up the majority of the album further adds to this extremely surreal experience. It feels extremely clear that you're going to go insane if you try and pick apart this album too much and try finding the underlying structure, and I feel it's way better experienced when you're just letting the music throw you around the place as you once in a while manage to pick out a sample you know that's coherent enough to recognise, as this makes it an extremely fun album that I can see myself revisiting many times, picking new stuff out upon each listen.
I know people in the comments have already mentioned negativland but they're one of may favorite bands. Emergency broadcast network(EBN) and the Evolution Control Committee are other good plunder bands. I have the remixed version of plexure on vinyl so I'm glad to see it here
While I do indeed love the Mouth trilogy, I wouldn't really call it a great start. As Oliver mentions, Plunderphonics definitely has many different iterations, and I think Neil's work is sort of on the extreme end of the genre. Like, the similarities between Since I Left You and the Mouth Trilogy kind of end at "they both use a lot of samples". They both have completely different sound styles and album composition/flow as well as just completely different musical intentions from the get go. I think there are many more albums in the Plunderphonics genre out there that sound like relatives of Since I left You than there are of the Mouth trilogy, hence why I'd say it's a better intro album.
Welcome back! By the time I'd subscribed you'd already gone dormant. A great genre to bring to light. Kind of expecting to see Negativland somewhere in there, though.
So glad that you made a video on one of my absolute favorite styles of music, thank you very much. Currently been listening to a lot of Steinski and Negativland. Also a guide to Oneohtrix Point Never's discography would be very much appreciated if you decide to make it.
@@brianoblivion3328 They are much more creative than the bullshit, besides Oswald, listed here. It's an insult to boil down plunderphonics into sample based dance music.
Happy to hear anything about my boy Daniel Lopatin. OPN is genuinely an overlooked treasure, please please please do a video and expose everyone to his absolutely beautiful chaos even further
_Grey Folded_ I feel is the most pleasant "officially sanctioned" Grateful Dead Plunderphinics release.. The liner notes along are worth owning, just for the incredibly detailed song map. John Oswald was given access to the Dead's vault & didn't even consider himself a fan until after he spent months combining various eras of Grateful Dead performing their penultimate psychedelic song, _Dark Star._ The 2-disc CD #2 even includes one of the best "hidden so you have to press Play on CD player & manually scroll backwards" tracks, perhaps ever. Great examples of the Plunderphonic method of Oswald's "time folding" make the double CD set essential listening, _especially_ to those folks' who are unaware of the Dead's role in musical evolution. Really great, mind expanding release. Honestly a bit gobsmacked no mention of this Plunderphonic Classic was given. But oh well, so it goes.. _Peace&JahBless_ Edited for something or other.. grammar mainly
So happy to see you mention Replica; maybe it’s just me, but that album feels almost haunted to me. It’s one of the only albums that makes me physically tense up and induces serious paranoia in me. I couldn’t tell you why, but it always does. Lovely album though.
You said the magic phrase “Ravedeath, 1972”. Can’t wait to hear Replica now! By the way, I listen to Girl Talk (though I prefer Bruneaux) while I work in a chemistry research lab! Love plunderphonics, thanks for this! By the way, would you classify something like The Books as plunderphonics, or found sound?
I really would love for the following genres (in order): - Rock in Opposition - Cantebury Scene - Jazz Punk/Jazzcore/Jazz Metal - Avant Garde Jazz Give it some thought please Love your channel
Fantastic video, Oliver. I've been a bit of a Girl Talk fan for a while but I didn't know about Feed the Animals because it wasn't on Apple Music. I'll absolutely give it a listen because I do also love Neil's work as well. The Madlib record I've already given a quick glance at and it's absolutely up my alley as well. Thanks so much for going over such an awesome genre, and so glad to see deep cuts is back to business as usual!
Some Girl Talk albums aren't on all streaming services - IIRC they were originally released for free on a website called "Illegal Art" because he couldnt clear the samples. Feed the Animals, Night Ripper, and All Day are all bangers.
Another great 5 albums video. I can’t get enough of these things! I was glad to see Girl Talk on that list. Although I didn’t listen to it on a commute, I did get REALLY into mash-ups like that in college (Girl Talk, Super Mash Bros, The White Panda, Deskhop, The Hood Internet, etc) and would listen to them when walking to class to sort of keep my energy up. It’s also how I got into a lot of pop music that I spend my childhood avoiding. I actively didn’t listen to top 40 stuff growing up, so when I decided to expand my horizons, this genre was a really great “catch-up” exercise for me. To this day, I’ll hear a song everyone knows but I hadn’t heard yet and say “oh that’s where that sample was from!!” and get way too excited while the people around me go “yeah...great...you seriously didn’t realize that was Jay-Z?” Anyway, keep up the excellent work. It’s good to have you back.
I went and saw Girl Talk at RVA Music Fest sometime about a decade ago and honestly the vibe between the album and seeing it live in concert is like day and night. Surrounded by hundreds of drunk hipsters, all dancing and belting out the lyrics to Since U Been Gone while a shirtless Gregg is jumping and sweating over his laptop. I can honestly say I've never been to another concert like that and I've never felt that intense level of energy. It definitely felt communal, with all kinds of styles and decades of music making it feel like everyone was included and everyone could sing and dance along.
Great video as always, I'll make sure to check these out cos I really like the idea of opening up artistic interpretation by using pre-existing music for a different purpose. I'd also recommend "Punk" by Patricia Taxxon, it's kind of like a meta-plunderphonics album, consciously using famous and easily identifiable samples as a middle finger to copyright laws. It opens with a rock radio tag of someone saying "Go ahead and sample one of our riffs; I get it, creativity is hard for you" and goes on to sample a rock riff, with the chorus of "Sorry Not Sorry" playing over it. As you progress through the album, the samples get more and more egregious - one of the tracks is just an AJR song played in its entirety without any changes. It's a really funny plunderphonics album with an attitude.
I clicked on this because I thought I would hear your thoughts on People Like Us, but now I'm not sure if People Like Us is plunderphonics or something else. Anyway, cool video! Great channel too. I'm clicking thought it now.
5 albums to get you into Ye-Ye. Always wanted to get more into international music and I hear this was essential era in French pop. Would like to know where to start.
Watching your videos always reminds me to go appreciate some albums I haven't listened to in a while like Since I Left You. Keep up the amazing work ❤️
For me, the song "Explain" is more like if you were in a sort of virtual world were people used to go to socialize or something, but now it's abandoned, and you are vistting the eerie corridors of this empty world which is now full of glitches but at the same time it's beautiful.
I did enjoy Girl Talk, especially as a teenager. I’ve always been very picky about electronic music (I lean towards electro-funk and electro-soul, as well as instrumental hip-hop, downtempo, and some harder to classify stuff, but I can’t get into more monotonous stuff like trance, techno, D’n’B or house), but I’ve always enjoyed glitchy electronic music- especially glitch music that manipulated samples; human voices; complex textured, automated bass sounds- something more organic and rounded rather than just 16- or 32- bit bleep-bloop noises, so Gillis’ sample-based monstrosities work for me. What I really admire is how he can take trash radio songs I absolutely can’t stand and twist them into something fun and catchy that I can get down with, while occasionally throwing in stuff I love, like Public Enemy or Radiohead in creative ways. Obviously you need to be in the right mood for Girl Talk- I don’t just throw it on either, at least not these days... But if I’m in a silly mood and just want to get hyped up, certain Girl Talk tracks will take me right back. And once in a while he hits on a particular mash-up that’s just golden... In those cases it’s sometimes kind of unfortunate how manically-paced his tracks are, because I couple just listen to a full track of that mix... But that’s the cost of doing business with Greg; that’s just what he’s about. I’ll have to check out several of the albums you named; they sound like I might enjoy them. A lot of my favorite sample-heavy music is stuff like DJ Shadow, RJD2, The Architect, Mounika., DJ Jazzy Jeff, Wax Tailor, Hugo Kang (the first track on Out of Time is sick)... Getting less sample-centric, some of my favorite producers, Gramatik & GRiZ... There are a couple other downtempo and instrumental albums whose artist names I’m blanking on, and lots of other great hip-hop DJs; so many greats.
Love you man! My first plunderphonic's album was replica , it's one of my favorite albums, keep up the great work, I'll check out the other recommendation
i am so happy this video exists, plunderphonics really defined the decade for me, personally, as far as the music i like to listen to and make. i think that vaporwave is a really cool offshoot of this whole thing that many people would be wrong to dismiss. Infinity Frequencies, Internet Club, and Telepath are all very good artists to start with if you like Replica but don't know where to go into VW from there.
"Since I left you" is one of those albums that I end up going back to because it just has such a wide array of emotions going on in it. "Feed the Animals" is an album you DRIVE to. Its full of energy. Its for when you have to wake up when you're power walking to work. Gets me pumped up.
Oneohtrix Point Never - Replica is definitely a great album (in fact, all of his stuff is). I wonder if you ever dove into "The Caretaker" and his library? Thanks for all the videos!
i would love a Oneohtrix Point Never 5 albums! Also great video, gonna check out some albums there, i just know Replica and Since i Left you. And this video helps me a lot to get into plunderphonics. Thank you!!
I absolutely listened to Girl Talk repeatedly. In fact, when I first discovered him, around the time of his last album, All Day, I became completely addicted, listening to his albums every day for weeks and weeks. To this day, over a decade later, I can't hear most of the songs in those mixes without the songs GT combined them with also coming in to my head (for better or worse). His album trilogy of Night Ripper, Feed the Animals and All Day remain among my favorites of the century, and are easily among my most-listened-to.
Hey Oliver, would you consider an artist like Burial as a plunderphonics artist? If not, where would you draw the line when it comes to the ratio of samples/self-produced sounds? Great to have you back by the way.
Escape from Noise and Helter Stupid are legit music masterpieces Especially Helter Stupid, since not only do you get a commentary on the 24-hour news cycle that's arguably Clint Eastwood's Richard Jewell movie and the People vs. OJ Simpson season of American Crime Story as told via the Firesign Theatre, but you also get this distillation of how utterly formulaic and repetitive '70s radio was (itself an expansion of a troll bit the band did on Over the Edge, where Richard and Don pretended that the station was this commercial station, "The California Superstation," and commented on the same phenomenon in a more subtle way).
non-SST albums I love from the band are Fair Use: The Letter U and the Numeral 2 (itself a masterpiece of dark humor about how far labels will take copyright, a potent commentary on how effectively limiting extensive sampling from mainstream music has stifled it while also mocking Greg Ginn and him blackballing the band), Dispepsi (my favorite distillation of late capitalism and a really excellent pop album that happens to comment on how utterly asinine the Cola Wars were), Deathsentences (a very harrowing piece that grows only moreso in the wake of the deaths of Don and Richard), No Business (which is my favorite pure plunderphonic-y album by them - "Piece of Pie" is the track that got me into super-absurdist comedy), and A Big 10-8 Place (mostly because it's the start of every Negativland in-joke that's not just an Escape from Noise or Helter Stupid reference - in order to understand half of the funny bits on the No Other Possibility video, you have to listen to this album). And there's the Guns single SST released in place of U2 - I cracked up when I heard that kid mimicking gunfire in Once Upon a Time in the West. The S/T I'm not too fond of, but it reminds me a lot of how I approached music really early on - the fact that Mark and Richard came up with all these crazy sounds just from recording random things around Mark's house is pretty cool. Points isn't my favorite - it feels like a really rough version of Big 10-8 Place. Free is mostly a drag - and I don't blame them since the Island Records lawsuit about took the wind out of them. These Guys Are From England (the compilation of the Over the Edge shows regarding U2, the U2 single, and the responses to the lawsuit) is nothing more than a curio. Happy Heroes is kinda meanspirited and mostly retreads on Dispepsi. Haven't gotten around to listening to Thigmotactic, It's All in Your Head, and True/False yet - though I should.
excuse me for the multiple replies. I really love my Negativland. (and I forgot about ABCs of Anarchism, which I first listened to in elementary school because, hey, I liked Chumbawamba and they did a collab with some weird band, and it got me into Negativland. I've been listening to the Four Floptops since 2002 - 17 years of Clorox Cowboy goodness)
Btw I didn't include Endtroducing because I talked about it on a previous '5 albums' vid. Calm yerselves, Christ!
for anyone who is reading this comment wondering which video endtroducing was in, it was the ‘5 albums to get you into trip hop’ vid! a great watch as well.
@@senseiparks thank u 😳
I'm just sad there wasn't a "MORE ALBUMS" Spotify playlist like the usual 5 Albums video.
Since I Left You and Shades of Blue are not plunderphonics. They are sample based albums, which is not the same thing. Also, not including Negativland is like not including Black Sabbath on a metal list.
you should probably pin this
Replica is one of those albums that the cover art reallly REALLY describes the vibe of the whole thing.
@clownmoshpit2778 LISA fans have great taste.
That cold feeling of dying or rotting over time defines the cold sound of the album, it replicates (the track) describes the depressive and depressing atmospheric sound that the album has, it is my
Favorite of the genre
Replica is one of the greatest albums of all time, there’s absolutely nothing else out there that feels quite like it. So haunting and beautiful
Pfp checks out.
This man deep cuts just had to come out with another banger didn’t he. Legend shit
If you don't mind, I am going to copy and paste this on every future deep cuts video
And his hour long Miles Davis guide? This dude could just wipe out all shit music magazines and start his own if he wanted to. A fucking legend indeed.
He's overrated.
@@fleaship6134 Miles or this dude?
That John Oswald record kind of sounds like someone's skimming through an analog radio for 20 minutes, but without the static noise.
it's a life changing experience
Yeah, it's uncomfortable for me. Seriously. Eww. Triggers my OCD. A bit like Floral Shoppe but even worse. Just not for me I'm afraid... idk, might revisit some day. It gives me that whiplash/tic feel
That is one of the most experimental and academic John Oswald has sounded... it's an important record but I think his stuff really shines when you listen to something like Dab (from MJ's Bad). The way that song is used almost in a fractal distorted "concerning" way is incredible and really scratches an itch for sample heavy music I never knew I had.
Just listened to the John Oswald record and my world turned upside down. It was challenging to listen to almost gave me a headache but goddamn it was great. Took a couple minutes to get used to the concept but everything afterwards was an amazing experience. It reminded me of movies where they watch TV and switch between channels and the sound of different shows line up perfectly to make sentences, but like the music equivalent. Definitely gonna check more of this, thanks for making videos about these niche genres dude.
for more john oswald you should check out plunderphonics’ S/T (an album john did earlier than plexure) and plunderphonics 69/96 (a compilation). the s/t is available for free somewhere on his site
Discovered The Avalanches 2 years ago by complete accident. Within 3 weeks, I had listened to all 3 albums multiple times. Saw them in concert over the summer last year. Phenomenal musicians
"Sleep Dealer" is another world.
Eugenio Menotti hell yeah. Best song on the album
I slept to replica on my flight and it was amazing lol
'Sleep Dealer' changed my perception of how different sections can be tied together.
Definitely the most creative use of a sampled commercial I’ve ever heard
Plunderphonics is one of my all time favorite genres. The books - The Way Out, and Kids and Explosions - Shit Computer are 2 of my all time favorite albums.
personally i prefer the lemon of pink and thought for food over the way out, but the way out has got some great stuff
@@lx11x that's totally fair. I listened to The way out last week so it is really fresh in my mind but I do also love thought for food as well.
Yes! Every list I find for plunderphonics never seems to have The Books on it which is a shame. The Way Out is just such an amazing and unique experience.
the books is one of the greatest music projects of all time, any genre
yeahhh! The Way Out is so underrated imo -- its a back-to-back delight
This is the second time you’ve done one of these, “5 albums to get you into” lists where I discover I’m a big fan of a genre that I didn’t even know existed! (The other being “Pigfuck”!) I love three of these albums (particularly Replica, Shades of Blue, and more than anything else, Since I Left You), and actually, I’ve listened to them enough times that they rank pretty high up on the list of albums I’ve listened to most in my life. At one point or another in my life, they’ve all had very important meaning, intimately connected to some life defining experiences in my youth, so I literally can’t listen to them without waves of nostalgia. That’s not always a good thing, but I definitely would have to include them amongst my fav albums.
It’s funny, as much as I adore, Since I Left You, I haven’t listened to it probably more than once or twice since 2016, or whenever their sophomore album came out. That album is just so closely tied to my experiences as an early-mid 20something psychedelic freak, and last time I listened to it I got too emotional, even felt “flashbacky” at certain points, and not exactly in a good way, but I still have to include it in my fav albums OAT, and will always cherish it as a soundtrack to my youth. I’d listen to it now, just to revisit and see if I can listen without the annoying flashbacks to friends and lovers no longer with, but I’m almost religiously opposed to playing that album in winter... it’s sac-relig to play that thing in cold weather, let alone without sunshine!
I agree with you almost 100% on Girl Talk, and haven’t listened to any of his albums in years, not since probably my mid-late 20s.. It was basically unavoidable to hear about him/know his music, bc he’s from the same town as I am, and there was a time, well over ten years ago by now, where every other week I’d hear someone talking about how awesome his stuff was, followed by, “and he’s from Pittsburgh too!”.. lol, when you’re from a city like this anyone who makes it big at all is considered a town hero.. If I remember correctly, the mayor of the city actually made an official “Girl Talk Day”, or maybe it was a week? I can’t remember, all I know is that I never could get into his albums, mo matter how hard I tried, and I used to get annoyed hearing so many people around me praising him..
I’ve somehow never heard of Oswald (or maybe I did and can’t remember), which seems weird, bc this is right up my alley, and I kind of pride myself with knowing the innovators and “firsts”, particularly where electronic music is concerned. I’m definitely excited to check him out, though!
Anyway, great vid, glad to see the content getting pumped out, Olly. Definitely looking forward to your AOTY lists, I’ve been working on mine, and favs per genre, etc... It’s absurd the time I spend doing it, only to share them with friends, but since I was like 15-16, it’s been one of my favorite yearly rituals, even though 9/10 I hate the lists that most publications come up with. Anyway, I’ll stfu now! ❤️🏴♾✌️
In listening to Plunderphonics by John Oswald for the first time, I find myself playing a fun game: how many samples can I recognize? This album is definitely an exercise in how to listen to music one is unfamiliar with, as well as a true landmark of discovery. This album almost feels like a scrap artist taking bits and pieces they like from pre-existing material and creating a new sculpture out of it (this is a stretch, but think of Dean from Iron Giant). Absolutely enjoyed the listen and it will find its way into my playlists for housework or getting things done on the computer
Anything that is an 'exercise' is concept over aesthetics.
Post modernist concepts have killed modern art and made people prefer torturous noise drones over well constructed music (because its not 'cool' to be technically proficient).
It is harder to make ground breaking music that doesn't insult the ears but why give too much credit to those that do, when you can create music and art for idiots that think 'I can do that'.
Welcome back.
The caretaker definitely deserves a mention. The way that project uses samples is haunting.
Donuts By J Dilla is another plunderphonics masterpiece
more downbeat or sample based hip hop. the sampling's great tho
@@apexscape Plunderphonics is more of an ethos and methodology than a genre. Donuts is 100% an example of Plunderphonics, especially if you're going by the examples in this video, but it is also a sample based hip-hop album.
He talked about Donuts on his experimental hip hop list
One of my Favourites
@@alexpegg5760 Donuts isn't plunderphonics, it's just an instrumental hip hop album. Plunderphonics is not just sampling, it's a more specific style of sampling that often plays along with the familiarity of the music being sampled, something that doesn't apply to SILY, Donuts, Endtroducing.
Still so happy you're back, BTW Since I Left You is classic, one of my all time favorites
Economics? Sorry i only study
P L U N D E R O M I C S
whats that?
@@richardgamrat1944 colonialist economics
I'd definietly mention death's dynamic shroud and his 'I'll try living like this' album (:
henlo fellow vaporwaver.
henlo pal
also nmesh's dream sequins
Deaths Dynamic Shroud is a group, not one person
@@a.c.7573 amazing albm, Dream Sequins is my Treasure
cant believe you snubbed Blarf like that, took you for a man of taste
The use of the Reading Rainbow theme song is unlike any piece of music heard before
The only right decision i've ever made was buying the vinyl while it was still in stock. Now its going for >50 at the least.
legitimately great plunderphonics album actually
@@stirhaven1981 I knew i should've bought it. Kept putting it off and doubt I'll be able to have it now lol
@@bigfat4172 sucks man, maybe they'll do a repressing in like a decade :P
I was a little worried when I found myself enjoying Blarf tracks unironically
only a little tho
There's an artist I would REALLY recommend in this specific department, and it's no wonder you don't know 'em 'cause they're danish and not that much famous outside the nation.
Den Sorte Skole (IE: The Black School) is an act that very finely dances the line between DJ'ing and composing, and they do it with such finesse it's quite amazing. Started out with somewhat of a concept for the first albums, all named "Lektion (Lesson) *number*", taking danish or international underground old music and splicing it together, creating atmospheres that bounce between sombre, intricate moods to intense, banging styles.
Their first two "lessons" somewhat mimick that of Girl Talk, what with talking pre-existing tracks and neatly mixing parts of them together, but with as I mentioned a more dark tone to it (Portishead to rap to a tech-mix of A Nightmare Before Christmas).
But where they truly shine is on "Lektion 3", which still to my mind is their magnum opus (and one of my favorite albums ever). With this one they go a step further, piecing out very small components of different songs (a 3-second string loop here, a knife-percussion there, a synth-base tone with a good timbre over there); not to mention the fact they went through over 500 pieces of music, with some loops being ancient (over 80 years old), and others being a folk-song from a distant Vietnamese jungle - and the album feels that way too, like a journey through genres, through cultures and the world, through the natural world w. folk music to the industrialized, smoky world w. skittish electro. It's really gorgeous, and my depiction probably doesn't give it enough credit, 'cause it is also one of those immerse-yourself-records.
I'm 15 minutes into Lektion iii and its soooooo good! I'm glad I read your comment today! Thank you! :D
I’m so fucking glad that you’re uploading again. These videos are great, especially when it’s regarding something I’m completely unfamiliar with, like this one. Very excited to see the rest of the content you’ve got planned for the near future
I'm studying all this for my masters and you're literally mentioning everything I've been researching. Hauntology, what an interesting concept. And how it mixes with nostalgia, the subtle differences and similarities between each. Plunderphonics is such a controversial style (or shall we call it mashups?) but I suppose that's exactly what you want when you're writing an academic piece of music/context. Thanks for the overview~ and props for mentioning music that you both like and dislike.
After listening to John Oswald's Plexure, I've got to say, what a bizarre album, containing such an insane amount of samples, almost never sticking around for more than a second or 2, yet managing to sound so oddly cohesive at the same time, the breakneck pace of this sampling still sticking to a particular feel within a genre for a while before moving on in a way that both feels natural, yet just as all over the place and chaotic as this album on the whole. Brief moments of reprieve throughout quickly falling back into the disorienting tone that makes up the majority of the album further adds to this extremely surreal experience. It feels extremely clear that you're going to go insane if you try and pick apart this album too much and try finding the underlying structure, and I feel it's way better experienced when you're just letting the music throw you around the place as you once in a while manage to pick out a sample you know that's coherent enough to recognise, as this makes it an extremely fun album that I can see myself revisiting many times, picking new stuff out upon each listen.
I know people in the comments have already mentioned negativland but they're one of may favorite bands. Emergency broadcast network(EBN) and the Evolution Control Committee are other good plunder bands. I have the remixed version of plexure on vinyl so I'm glad to see it here
Since I Left you is the my favorite album, glad you did a piece on plunderphonics
I'd love to hear someone talk about negativland someday
Adolf Stalin Culturecide is ass compared to negativeland
negitivland should be number 2 on this list
Replica changed my life and the entire way I thought about what music could be.
Yooo eye witness records, you guys have some legendary chillsynth albums on your label. Cool to see you’re an OPN fan
I know it's a silly choice, but I find the mouth trilogy of Neil Cicierega a great start for plunderphonics
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@@shiobuzz3724 Piss beneath my toes
IT'S BEEN ONE WEEK SINCE YOU LOOKED AT ME
I can't agree enough
While I do indeed love the Mouth trilogy, I wouldn't really call it a great start. As Oliver mentions, Plunderphonics definitely has many different iterations, and I think Neil's work is sort of on the extreme end of the genre. Like, the similarities between Since I Left You and the Mouth Trilogy kind of end at "they both use a lot of samples". They both have completely different sound styles and album composition/flow as well as just completely different musical intentions from the get go. I think there are many more albums in the Plunderphonics genre out there that sound like relatives of Since I left You than there are of the Mouth trilogy, hence why I'd say it's a better intro album.
Welcome back! By the time I'd subscribed you'd already gone dormant. A great genre to bring to light. Kind of expecting to see Negativland somewhere in there, though.
So glad that you made a video on one of my absolute favorite styles of music, thank you very much. Currently been listening to a lot of Steinski and Negativland. Also a guide to Oneohtrix Point Never's discography would be very much appreciated if you decide to make it.
Negativland doesn't get enough love man, there albums are so fucking creative.
@@brianoblivion3328 They are much more creative than the bullshit, besides Oswald, listed here. It's an insult to boil down plunderphonics into sample based dance music.
@@explodingnightmareproducti5612 there is no way you listened to replica and thought that
i don't think we're getting that guide to opn any time soon :(
There's just something so beautiful about art that takes an approach of quilting together pieces of other media and making something original
At this point I just hit like before watching the video. Your content is a definite jewel in the music community in UA-cam. PLEASE keep it up.
Thank you for this video! Plunderphonics is one of my absolute favorite genres and it’s great hearing you talk about it
Happy to hear anything about my boy Daniel Lopatin. OPN is genuinely an overlooked treasure, please please please do a video and expose everyone to his absolutely beautiful chaos even further
OPN guide video? HELL YES! That would be great, Oliver!
These 5 albums videos are pure gold... So glad you're back with them.
_Grey Folded_ I feel is the most pleasant "officially sanctioned" Grateful Dead Plunderphinics release.. The liner notes along are worth owning, just for the incredibly detailed song map.
John Oswald was given access to the Dead's vault & didn't even consider himself a fan until after he spent months combining various eras of Grateful Dead performing their penultimate psychedelic song, _Dark Star._
The 2-disc CD #2 even includes one of the best "hidden so you have to press Play on CD player & manually scroll backwards" tracks, perhaps ever.
Great examples of the Plunderphonic method of Oswald's "time folding" make the double CD set essential listening, _especially_ to those folks' who are unaware of the Dead's role in musical evolution.
Really great, mind expanding release.
Honestly a bit gobsmacked no mention of this Plunderphonic Classic was given. But oh well, so it goes..
_Peace&JahBless_
Edited for something or other.. grammar mainly
this is a really memorable CD.
So happy to see you mention Replica; maybe it’s just me, but that album feels almost haunted to me. It’s one of the only albums that makes me physically tense up and induces serious paranoia in me. I couldn’t tell you why, but it always does. Lovely album though.
So I've been a Madlib fan for a long time and Shades of Blue is a favorite of mine. For me it's a lesson in Jazz sampling that can't be matched
I am so happy that this channel is back.
You said the magic phrase “Ravedeath, 1972”. Can’t wait to hear Replica now!
By the way, I listen to Girl Talk (though I prefer Bruneaux) while I work in a chemistry research lab! Love plunderphonics, thanks for this! By the way, would you classify something like The Books as plunderphonics, or found sound?
I really would love for the following genres (in order):
- Rock in Opposition
- Cantebury Scene
- Jazz Punk/Jazzcore/Jazz Metal
- Avant Garde Jazz
Give it some thought please
Love your channel
Fantastic video, Oliver. I've been a bit of a Girl Talk fan for a while but I didn't know about Feed the Animals because it wasn't on Apple Music. I'll absolutely give it a listen because I do also love Neil's work as well. The Madlib record I've already given a quick glance at and it's absolutely up my alley as well. Thanks so much for going over such an awesome genre, and so glad to see deep cuts is back to business as usual!
Some Girl Talk albums aren't on all streaming services - IIRC they were originally released for free on a website called "Illegal Art" because he couldnt clear the samples. Feed the Animals, Night Ripper, and All Day are all bangers.
Im so glad you’re back, I forgot how much I loved this channel
I didn't realize you were back. We've missed you, and I'm glad you're making videos again.
So glad to see you back again!!
Video is doing surprisingly well, it's already doing alot better than many of your previous videos
Another great 5 albums video. I can’t get enough of these things!
I was glad to see Girl Talk on that list. Although I didn’t listen to it on a commute, I did get REALLY into mash-ups like that in college (Girl Talk, Super Mash Bros, The White Panda, Deskhop, The Hood Internet, etc) and would listen to them when walking to class to sort of keep my energy up. It’s also how I got into a lot of pop music that I spend my childhood avoiding. I actively didn’t listen to top 40 stuff growing up, so when I decided to expand my horizons, this genre was a really great “catch-up” exercise for me. To this day, I’ll hear a song everyone knows but I hadn’t heard yet and say “oh that’s where that sample was from!!” and get way too excited while the people around me go “yeah...great...you seriously didn’t realize that was Jay-Z?”
Anyway, keep up the excellent work. It’s good to have you back.
I went and saw Girl Talk at RVA Music Fest sometime about a decade ago and honestly the vibe between the album and seeing it live in concert is like day and night. Surrounded by hundreds of drunk hipsters, all dancing and belting out the lyrics to Since U Been Gone while a shirtless Gregg is jumping and sweating over his laptop. I can honestly say I've never been to another concert like that and I've never felt that intense level of energy. It definitely felt communal, with all kinds of styles and decades of music making it feel like everyone was included and everyone could sing and dance along.
Wow i just realised how much i missed you haha. One of the best things on youtube.
I'm so glad you're back man. You're an absolute gift to music discussion.
Great video as always, I'll make sure to check these out cos I really like the idea of opening up artistic interpretation by using pre-existing music for a different purpose.
I'd also recommend "Punk" by Patricia Taxxon, it's kind of like a meta-plunderphonics album, consciously using famous and easily identifiable samples as a middle finger to copyright laws. It opens with a rock radio tag of someone saying "Go ahead and sample one of our riffs; I get it, creativity is hard for you" and goes on to sample a rock riff, with the chorus of "Sorry Not Sorry" playing over it. As you progress through the album, the samples get more and more egregious - one of the tracks is just an AJR song played in its entirety without any changes. It's a really funny plunderphonics album with an attitude.
Lol as soon as I clicked on this video I said Avalanches needs to have a spot. Knew you would deliver--welcome back dude!
Haven’t seen you in a while, Deepcuts. I am very happy! I’m a big fan of your videos.
So happy that this channel is back. Hope your studies are going well too :)
I clicked on this because I thought I would hear your thoughts on People Like Us, but now I'm not sure if People Like Us is plunderphonics or something else.
Anyway, cool video! Great channel too. I'm clicking thought it now.
So glad to have you back man.
5 albums to get you into Ye-Ye. Always wanted to get more into international music and I hear this was essential era in French pop. Would like to know where to start.
This channel is so awesome. I learn so much from it!
I knew you were going to include 'The Avalanches'. I love their song 'Frontier Psychiatrist'.
I remember asking you about making a plunderphonics guide on Twitter and you actually replied! So glad it's finally here!
I'm so happy you started uploading again!
Damn dude, you've been keeping these uploads consistent. Glad you're able to do so!
Watching your videos always reminds me to go appreciate some albums I haven't listened to in a while like Since I Left You. Keep up the amazing work ❤️
For me, the song "Explain" is more like if you were in a sort of virtual world were people used to go to socialize or something, but now it's abandoned, and you are vistting the eerie corridors of this empty world which is now full of glitches but at the same time it's beautiful.
Yessss, great to have you back and uploading again man! :)
I’ve only heard 2 songs so far, but I think Plexure is my new fav album. This will go hard in the club ngl
So glad that you are back!!!
Absolute unit of a tune.
I'm totally using that.
I love plunderphonics, I'll make sure to listen to every single one. Thank you
I did enjoy Girl Talk, especially as a teenager. I’ve always been very picky about electronic music (I lean towards electro-funk and electro-soul, as well as instrumental hip-hop, downtempo, and some harder to classify stuff, but I can’t get into more monotonous stuff like trance, techno, D’n’B or house), but I’ve always enjoyed glitchy electronic music- especially glitch music that manipulated samples; human voices; complex textured, automated bass sounds- something more organic and rounded rather than just 16- or 32- bit bleep-bloop noises, so Gillis’ sample-based monstrosities work for me. What I really admire is how he can take trash radio songs I absolutely can’t stand and twist them into something fun and catchy that I can get down with, while occasionally throwing in stuff I love, like Public Enemy or Radiohead in creative ways. Obviously you need to be in the right mood for Girl Talk- I don’t just throw it on either, at least not these days... But if I’m in a silly mood and just want to get hyped up, certain Girl Talk tracks will take me right back. And once in a while he hits on a particular mash-up that’s just golden... In those cases it’s sometimes kind of unfortunate how manically-paced his tracks are, because I couple just listen to a full track of that mix... But that’s the cost of doing business with Greg; that’s just what he’s about.
I’ll have to check out several of the albums you named; they sound like I might enjoy them. A lot of my favorite sample-heavy music is stuff like DJ Shadow, RJD2, The Architect, Mounika., DJ Jazzy Jeff, Wax Tailor, Hugo Kang (the first track on Out of Time is sick)... Getting less sample-centric, some of my favorite producers, Gramatik & GRiZ... There are a couple other downtempo and instrumental albums whose artist names I’m blanking on, and lots of other great hip-hop DJs; so many greats.
Just remembered that you had a The Fall guide logo ready....
Ori Domshlak waiting for this too
Honestly cannot wait to put that video together
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Just ordered Replica on vinyl as a blind buy last week and get this video today. Makes me appreciate the album even more.
The man is back! Love it!
im so happy to see you in my recommended again
Another good entry point, Kid606.... Never Underestimate the Value of a Holler (Vipee-Pee Mix), for instance
Love your channel! I am glad you are back.
Love you man! My first plunderphonic's album was replica , it's one of my favorite albums, keep up the great work, I'll check out the other recommendation
i am so happy this video exists, plunderphonics really defined the decade for me, personally, as far as the music i like to listen to and make. i think that vaporwave is a really cool offshoot of this whole thing that many people would be wrong to dismiss. Infinity Frequencies, Internet Club, and Telepath are all very good artists to start with if you like Replica but don't know where to go into VW from there.
"Since I left you" is one of those albums that I end up going back to because it just has such a wide array of emotions going on in it.
"Feed the Animals" is an album you DRIVE to. Its full of energy. Its for when you have to wake up when you're power walking to work. Gets me pumped up.
Just listened to the Avalanches album and, goddamn, what an amazing album, thank you!!!
love your videos dude! your passion for music is always tangible.
WELCOME BACK I MISSED YOU!!!!!!
Oneohtrix Point Never - Replica is definitely a great album (in fact, all of his stuff is). I wonder if you ever dove into "The Caretaker" and his library? Thanks for all the videos!
Panda Bear's Person Pitch is a great plunderphonics album as well, check that one out if you're into bubbly neo-psych guys
i would love a Oneohtrix Point Never 5 albums! Also great video, gonna check out some albums there, i just know Replica and Since i Left you. And this video helps me a lot to get into plunderphonics. Thank you!!
sooo glad you're backk!
Welcome back old friend!! I've missed your videos a lot.
Really enjoying your channel and learning about loads of great music! Thanks very much :)
Aww man I'm so glad you're back
I absolutely listened to Girl Talk repeatedly. In fact, when I first discovered him, around the time of his last album, All Day, I became completely addicted, listening to his albums every day for weeks and weeks. To this day, over a decade later, I can't hear most of the songs in those mixes without the songs GT combined them with also coming in to my head (for better or worse).
His album trilogy of Night Ripper, Feed the Animals and All Day remain among my favorites of the century, and are easily among my most-listened-to.
Hey Oliver, would you consider an artist like Burial as a plunderphonics artist? If not, where would you draw the line when it comes to the ratio of samples/self-produced sounds? Great to have you back by the way.
I think it is more about how the samples are used rather than the number of them
No Pogo? He's probably one of the internet's most popular plunderphonics artists, the musical wizard of nostalgia.
Thank you very much! Always wanted to know more about plunderphonics ^^
Been waitin for this one Oliver!!
How is it you don't have way more subs? Fucking hell... Amazing content bro
Feel out of the Loop , never heard if no plunderphonics . Way Cool 😎 stuff !!
great list, man! i would have also included neil cicierega's mouth moods, that whole album is a BANGER.
Glad that the best music channel is back, I was already sick of melons bullshit. Btw I was puzzled at lack of Endtroducing/Escape From Noise.
Dispepsi by Negativland is up there for me... or really anything by Negativland, or maybe they technically don't count?
Escape from Noise and Helter Stupid are legit music masterpieces
Especially Helter Stupid, since not only do you get a commentary on the 24-hour news cycle that's arguably Clint Eastwood's Richard Jewell movie and the People vs. OJ Simpson season of American Crime Story as told via the Firesign Theatre, but you also get this distillation of how utterly formulaic and repetitive '70s radio was (itself an expansion of a troll bit the band did on Over the Edge, where Richard and Don pretended that the station was this commercial station, "The California Superstation," and commented on the same phenomenon in a more subtle way).
non-SST albums I love from the band are Fair Use: The Letter U and the Numeral 2 (itself a masterpiece of dark humor about how far labels will take copyright, a potent commentary on how effectively limiting extensive sampling from mainstream music has stifled it while also mocking Greg Ginn and him blackballing the band), Dispepsi (my favorite distillation of late capitalism and a really excellent pop album that happens to comment on how utterly asinine the Cola Wars were), Deathsentences (a very harrowing piece that grows only moreso in the wake of the deaths of Don and Richard), No Business (which is my favorite pure plunderphonic-y album by them - "Piece of Pie" is the track that got me into super-absurdist comedy), and A Big 10-8 Place (mostly because it's the start of every Negativland in-joke that's not just an Escape from Noise or Helter Stupid reference - in order to understand half of the funny bits on the No Other Possibility video, you have to listen to this album). And there's the Guns single SST released in place of U2 - I cracked up when I heard that kid mimicking gunfire in Once Upon a Time in the West.
The S/T I'm not too fond of, but it reminds me a lot of how I approached music really early on - the fact that Mark and Richard came up with all these crazy sounds just from recording random things around Mark's house is pretty cool. Points isn't my favorite - it feels like a really rough version of Big 10-8 Place. Free is mostly a drag - and I don't blame them since the Island Records lawsuit about took the wind out of them. These Guys Are From England (the compilation of the Over the Edge shows regarding U2, the U2 single, and the responses to the lawsuit) is nothing more than a curio. Happy Heroes is kinda meanspirited and mostly retreads on Dispepsi. Haven't gotten around to listening to Thigmotactic, It's All in Your Head, and True/False yet - though I should.
excuse me for the multiple replies. I really love my Negativland.
(and I forgot about ABCs of Anarchism, which I first listened to in elementary school because, hey, I liked Chumbawamba and they did a collab with some weird band, and it got me into Negativland. I've been listening to the Four Floptops since 2002 - 17 years of Clorox Cowboy goodness)
@@Malkmusianful No worries, your enthusiasm is infectious.
So happy you're back
A good composer does not imitate; he steals...
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