5 Albums to Get You Into INDUSTRIAL
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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TOP 5 ALBUMS TO GET YOU INTO INDUSTRIAL:
1) Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats (1979)
2) Einstürzende Neubauten - Halber Mensch (1985)
3) Ministry - The Land of Rape and Honey (1988)
4) Skinny Puppy - Too Dark Park (1990)
5) Young Gods - Only Heaven (1995)
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Now that we're all into industrial music, you've gotta get us into that industrial-strength hair gel you use to keep looking so fresh all the time.
I love and miss you Raul
I don’t even like industrial music, I’m just here for the hair
@@ravanaRTT I'm just here for Oliver
Gimme some of that hair gel so my hair can look like Bill Leeb's
Dude I fucking love your channel, your passion for music is so infectious.
If I could go back in time to before I heard Skinny Puppy I'd do it again and enjoy the experience all over again.
Yes!
There are so many great proto-Industrial / Industrial groups that it is really hard to distill things down to just 5 albums. For the early days [late 70's to early 80's] groups like Throbbing Gristle, Cabre Voltaire, Die Krupps, Non, Wire, Front 242, Skinny Puppy, Monte Cazzazza were very influential (building on groups like Kraftwerk and Walter/Wendy Carlo's/Devo's experimental keyboard exercursions in the early to mid 70's).
However, starting around 1983 and for a decade through 1993, there was the real explosion in the Industrial genre onto the world stage, where there were dozens and dozens of interesting bands collaborating, starting new labels, touring together, and inspiring generations to come. It continued on into the mid 90s when it got more mainstream, but kind of loss momentum in the early 2000s. Here are some bands that stick out from my formative years during that time in the 80's & 90's and I'll just list them alphabetically as it is hard to rank them all:
A Split Second, Accessory, Ajax, Android Lust, Armaggedon Dildos, Assemblage 23, Battery, Bigod 20, Block 57, Blue Eyed Christ, Cabre Voltaire, Cassandra Complex, Cat Rapes Dog, Celldweller, Chemlab, Controlled Bleeding, C-tec, Cyberaktif, Deathline International, Die Krupps, Digital Poodle, Dive, Doubting Thomas, Download, Einstürzende Neubauten ,Excessive Force, Force Dimension, Front 242, Front Line Assembly, Greater Than One, Index, Insekt, Intermix, Klute, KMFDM, Kode IV, Laibach, Leather Strip, Machines of Loving Grace, Mindfield, Ministry, My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, Nine Inch Nails, Nitzer Ebb, Numb, Of Skin & Saliva, Oomph!, Out Out, Pain Emission, Pankow, Rammstein, Revolting Cocks, Schnitt Acht, Sister Machine Gun, Skinny Puppy, The Overlords, Throbbing Gristle and Young Gods.
Looking forward to an EBM guide! Naturally I think an EBM guide could make for also a great introduction or a future guide on techno. Is that something that you would be interested in? Great video and awesome content!
Yeah, industrial music is hard genre to pin down, it's very open ended. I personally would have added Godflesh. Early Swans is indicative of that early meshing of Metal and Industrial too. But, yes difficult to pick only five.
One band that isn't quite industrial, but closely related is the Legendary Pink Dots. They did a collaboration with Skinny Puppy members called The Tear Garden and I highly recommend that to anyone looking for something different. The Dots are basically two keyboard players, one who sings, and various other musicians over the years, including unusual things like violin and sax. They have changed their style over lots of albums, but probably the most industrial-like would be
Shadow Weaver, done in collaboration with Nurse With Wound. For Tear Garden, I would go with Last Man to Fly. Both incredible albums that sound like nothing else I know of.
I won 30 bucks from my dad when he challenged me to say what sample was used in ‘you know what you are’ (Ministry)
We were driving somewhere in Germany and he told me to put Ministry on. I was still pretty young and not into industrial but I will never forget his face when I guessed it right.
So hyped for the NIN guide!
No Foetus? I'd say it's one of the best introductory "industrial" bands for people who wouldn't regularly be interested in industrial music. Especially Nail
The 5 albums that I'd recommend, for someone who wants to get into Industrial are
Downward Spiral by Nine Inch Nails
Dos Dedos Mis Amigos by Pop Will Eat Itself
Psalm 69 by Ministry
Astro Creep 2000 by White Zombie
Splinter (Songs From a Broken Mind) by Gary Numan
Of course, there's a ton more, but those are the 5 that I'd recommend. Antichrist Superstar by Marilyn Manson is a close 6th place.
Industrial is very alive and well, especially the harsh noise scene
It's hard to narrow it down to just five for me. I could easily fill four of the five slots just with Ministry. I wouldn't want to forget Throbbing Gristle, Skinny Puppy, KMFDM, My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult, Revolting Cocks, 1000 Homo DJs, Front 242, The Young Gods, Chris Connelly, Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, or Rammstein.
As far as stigmata goes: when that shit dropped at the club... goosebumps
A respectably solid list. I would switch out Young Gods with Laibach and perhaps go with Rabies instead of Too Dark Park but that's just me. I must mention that the Too Dark Park show was the BEST EVER show amongst the thousands I have seen. No question. You didn't even need drugs. And I even got to see Jerry Garcia w the Dead. I could write a freaking book from that one show. Indelible.
Edit: ok how fukn stoned do you have to be to watch and comment on a video twice within a year without realizing it at first? This stoned apparently.
Broken by nine inch nails if you come from a metal/hard rock background.
how mad would you have to be to make a current 93 guide? :)
My initial reaction: This better have some Skinny Puppy. Prepare to be judged harshly! :P
After watching the video: Pretty good list actually.
Dunno about Young Gods but the other four are greta picks and that one ain't horrible either.
"We won't be talking about Coil"
Now this, this feels bad :(
He'll have to make up for it by doing that Coil artist guide we've been asking for for years ;)
Coil deserves a whole another video!
Coil is post industrial.
Coil deserves a artist guide!!!
When i enter i was expecting musick to play on the dark vol 1 lol
Some more:
Godflesh - Streetcleaner
Coil - Horse Rotovator
Nurse With Wound - Soliloquoy For Lilth (for drone fans)
Foetus - Nail
Streetcleaner is an absolute Juggernaut of an Album
A reminder that Industrial is much more than "bro it sounds like they're playing with machines" , the core idea is provoking the listener using ugly, most of the time electronic noise. It's supposed to represent the alienation, decay, etc. that results from technology and neoliberalism
with that said SPK and Test Dpt. are then essential Industrial bands
100% correct
if so, Merzbow would actually fall to the industrial category
Delta Vox not really. Industrial is more nuanced than noise.
@@gigachad192 though it stems back to the origins of power electronics which is industrial music
I would agree, but would also add a few releases in the genre that may be a bit more obscure but IMHO just as important: Hunting Lodge's "Will" and PGR's "The Chemical Bride", as well as ANYTHING by Esplendor Geometrico.
Maybe too metal for this list but my favorite industrial record is Godflesh’s Streetcleaner
I agree, fantastic record.
Came here to type this.
It's definitely industrial, but that album could filed under alot of things
That record is hard as hell. I believe that would be the standard bearer for industrial metal in my mind.
Classic
For a taste of what Japan were doing with the genre, I can totally recommend Chu Ishikawa’s score for the film ‘Tetsuo: Iron Man’, which you can find right here on YT in its entirety.
Good call also, Dissecting Table, Der Eisenrost and Merzbow, or are they Noise/PE? there's the rub!
@@PolarRed Merzbow is Noise I believe
S.P.K. - Leichenschrei
If you're reading this and want to get into Industrial music, do not sleep on this record. I would absolutely list this album as my number 1 Industrial album (or even Information Overload Unit). It is a quintessential Industrial record that opened my eyes to what this music was capable of, and helped me understand what groups like Throbbing Gristle and Cabaret Voltaire were doing back when I first discovered the genre.
An absolutely frantic, chaotic ride that gradually spirals out of control as the album progresses. Pure sonic mayhem. Not only one of the best Industrial albums, but one of the very best experimental/avant-garde records ever made.
I was looking for someone to mention this album. Definitely a classic in the genre. This one makes an apocalyptic vision of Earth very well.
Shevek I might be misremembering this, but I think he discussed or at least touched on Leichenschrei in his video on power electronics?
I’d actually say System Overload Unit over Leichenschrei
Shevek, Thanks for the recommendation.
It's a pretty good and iconic album though imho the first half is comparatively dull for it's the second half which is the great stuff; the last 5-6 tracks building to an amazing climax. My fave collection of "SPK" though is the "Auto Da Fe" collection which with the first 5 tracks has the original line-up making awesome electro punk industrial noise rock tracks like 'Contact', 'Mekano', 'Slogun', 'Germanik' ... Stuff from 1979-80 which was so influential on so many artists that came after.
Glad you included Skinny Puppy. Nivek Ogre is one of the oddest profound lyricists I've ever heard. Also the music is almost supernatural at its essence.
Too Dark Park is one of my all time favourite albums. It evokes creeping crawling chaos and dread, polluted lakes of toxic fizz and a pitiless cosmic abyss. Shores of Pluto ........All Experiments’ proof not needed...Kiss the Masters Feet.. great stuff !
kind of the height of their popularity.. saw that tour in LA, along with a looot of other people.. never seen so many black leather jackets in one place...
they really sucked then but hilt "call the ambulance" helped
One of my favorites too!
"FLEETING IMAGE, GHOST DESTRUCTION, TV SCREEN"
AWESOME Album!!!
I quite like VIsectVI.
@@StillRightHere OHHH it gives off an ORANGE CLOUD OF LIGHTNING just FLOATING right out of us... (sigh)
What gets me triggered when metalheads, listeners and musicians talk about industrial meaning industrial metal, but skipping word "metal". I mean Industrial and Industrial metal are pretty different styles.
Yeah....I do chuckle when people say Rammstein is an industrial band.
It is pretty funny. Most of the guys into metal have probably only heard Psalm 69 , The Downward Spiral or some ghastly Fear Factory record, and read in Karrang that this is industrial, even when both Al Jorgensen and Trent Reznor have said it isn't. Slabbing on a gabber drum loop and adding a Slayer riff is about as industrial as Blink 182 remix.
@@RootEight Rammstein isn't even industrial metal. Its Neue Deutsche Härte
@@RootEight
LMAO- 'Orgy is an a Industrial band.'
The funny things you read on the internet. Orgy is a pop band, and a poor Depeche Mode rip off imvho. Quite what you'd make of NON/Boyd Rice, Nurse with Wounds or SPK would be amusing to note.
@@RootEight
You really are a funny guy.....Sehnsuch is Arena rock! I mean I dunno if you can 'sing' along with 'Five Knuckle Shuffle', 'What a Day' or 'Hit by a Rock' but really, do yourself a favor and go and listen to Twenty Great Jazz Funk Hits and come back to us. Even Till Lindeman doesn't think they are industrial.....
I’d love to see a Guide to Coil
That would be so interesting!
Based Ramleh
Matan Meir It's funny how with the reissue Hole in the Heart has become their best-known record when, back when I got into them in the late '00s, that cassette was *impossible* to find and you were more likely to hear people talking about Be Careful What You Wish For, Blowhole or Homeless, only the first of which I think is available on any kind of streaming... assuming they were talking about Ramleh at all, as they were really obscure. Either way, wonderfully creepy band.
GUIDE TO COIL! GUIDE TO COIL!
@Obscure Sounds of the Dead Internet please make it clear that Life is Life is a harmonious work of glory, while Leben ist Leben is a noisy stomp of anarchy... I picked the wrong one on a Czech jukebox, and it cleared the bar!
Here are my recommendations:
1) Einstürzende Neubauten - Kollaps
2) Throbbing Gristle - 3rd Annual Report
3) RevCo - Beers Steers & Queers
4) Godflesh - Streetcleaner
5) Cabaret Voltaire - Mix Up
Delta Vox I would replace Mix- Up with Red Mecca or The Voice of America.
I think it's also worth mentioning some of Laibach's work, if nothing else for their introduction of martial elements to the industrial scene and heavy influence on Rammstein and other bands of the Neue Deutsche Härte. If I had to pick just one album I think I would go with Nova Akropola, but even their later albums have their moments, like "We Are Millions And Millions Are One" off of SPECTRE.
I also have to do my duty as a King Crimson cultist and throw in a mention for their industrial metal period: THRAK and The ConstruKtion of Light may be just as divisive among progressive music fans as they are among industrial music fans, but as someone who loves both genres I think they're great.
I think deepcuts could tackle the topic of "separating the artist from the art" really well
I encourage all to check out Severed Heads' 80's works such as "Since the Accident" and "Come Visit (The Big Bigot)" albums. SH was a big influence on Skinny Puppy and others, and they toured with and performed on early SP records like Bites.
My faves include...
LAIBACH "Nova Acropola"
MY LIFE WITH THE THRILL KILL KULT "Confessions of a Knife"
CHROME "Red Exposure"
MANUFACTURE "Terrorvision"
NITZER EBB "Belief"
FRONT LINE ASSEMBLY "Caustic Grip"
CABARET VOLTAIRE "Red Mecca"
FRONT 242 "Front By Front"
Confessions of a knife iz a great pic
Yes early Severed Heads is often awesome (particularly fond of "Since the Accident") and was a huge influence on the others.
Laibach! How could I forget??? Incredible stuff. And from a very different scene, as they came from Slovenia.
And yes also for Laibach, ought to be in an industrial 5 or 10 albums - hard to choose one album though as they are quite distinct - perhaps "Nova Akropola" although tracks on the following "Opus Dei" set a template for acts like Rammstein 10 years later - though I also particularly love the even bleaker "Laibach" album and even moreso the related set on "Rekapitulacija 1980-84" a collection which features their earliest, bleakest and most industrial music.
Great to see Manufacture's debut album mentioned there also; often overlooked.
this is a great list, Clean by severed heads is one of my favorites
I actually prefer The Second Annual Report over 20 Jazz Funk Greats
Third and Final Report or CD1 for me
Yeah, but it’s not the best album for someone new to the genre.
THANKS!
Keith Thomas CD1 is underrated, for sure. Really captures a nice happy medium between their more ambient/soundtrack work and their live vibe.
if you're so eclectic, upload acid hut
A little disappointed no mention of Foetus, not even in the more albums playlist. I feel J.G. Thirlwell is another important figure in industrial music that's worth at least a mention.
Yes. NAIL and HOLE are masterpieces of the genre.
Nail was better than all of the albums on this list.
I feel like there's enough to Foetus that you could devote a whole video to just him without even branching off into stuff about Lydia Lunch et al
Nothing like that classic Wax Trax Sound, Ministry's second album "Twitch" is the record that got me into Industrial. Howdy from Texas y'all
Yeah, I think Twitch was probably the one that got me into it too. That and Skinny Puppy's Remission & Bites.
That is a great one.
STRONGER THAN REASON
STRONGER THAN LIES
THE ONLY TRUTH I KNOW IS THR LOOK IN YOUR EYES
Jawoll, noch so'n stigmatisierter
Obviously didn't get out much.The world is chock full of sociopaths who could pass a lie detector, no prob.
Stigmata
My favorite weapon.. is the look in your eye. 😎
I was taking a college photography class when Too Dark Park came out. The student lab assistant would play it in the dark room lol. A few of us liked it, but even for most art students back then Skinny Puppy in the dark was a bit much.
Delighted that The Young Gods get a mention. Their first two albums are astonishing, and last year's Data Mirage Tangram was my favourite of 2019.
Just saw them in Munich and they were still fantastic.
Agreed, they Data is a stunning album, they have a rock solid discography.
I remember when “Industrial” was experimental music such as Psychic TV, Coil, Chris and Cosey, Foetus, Severed Heads, Throbbing Gristle, Einsturzende Neubauten, etc. It wasn’t the “techno metal” we know today.
Thanks for teaching the youngsters what Industrial really is and where it started. I appreciate your descriptions of the songs. Nice work.
Everyone always forgets SEVERED HEADS, and its a damn shame.
I still listen to them. Dead Eyes Opened is one of my all-time favs.
One of the best, forgotten along with Sunday Painters as Australian originators of electronic music.
Protolamna thats really a synth pop anthem... dig back a bit further. Tom Ellard is really something
Yes. And just on innovation alone. One of the first bands to have a internet message board, a website, sell compressed audio formats (mpeg 2 files on severything), Be a small indie band to create a cd rom, sell mp3s on a website, expand live performance to include real time video mixing etc). On top of that I continue to marvel at the level of sound layering on Severed Heads records. Wholly original and vastly underrated experimental electronic music act.
Wait...you mention an Australian industrial band, and it's not SPK. Very dubious.
Skinny Puppy is THE BAND that made me listen to industrial music. Because prior to them I listened only to Rammstein and Oomph! And well as much as you consider Depeche Mode industrial, you might include them too.
But after Skinny Puppy and Suicide Commando I got really deep into industrial and post-industrial music.
for me, Ministry is what got me into real industrial music. Hence after that, I listened to classic industrial music
I loved Skinny Puppy. Oh the memories.
@@moofoogee still waiting for new album
Oomph's first was really good
Depeche Mode played essentially the same music as a lot of industrial only without as much harsh effect.
I personally would love an album guide for Musiqué Concreté if you can. It’s such an interesting style of music and I find it kind of hard to approach it from an album standpoint.
This
Listen to Edgard Varese ASAP
Musique concrète ?
Great that you've included EN! Einstürzende Neubauten's name essentially comes from Blixa Bargeld's childhood experiences of post-war Germany. He was in a newly-built cinema when everyone had to clear out due to rain pouring through the roof. These new buildings were so hastily and cheaply constructed that a lot of them fell down again. Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft's name was also inspired by growing up in Germany in the 50's and 60's.
Yo Oliver I was wondering if at some point you could do a Deep Cuts essential on Comus - First Utterance. It’s an excellent freak/prog folk album from the 70s that is criminally underrated and is honestly one of the best albums from the 70s in general. Would love to hear your thoughts on it.
Has he ever mentioned this record? Seems like something he'd be all over. It's strangely addictive.
Nick Moss I don’t think so that’s why I’d love to hear him talk about it
Oh fucking hell, I love that record have the original pressing of it!
I love that album, even Out of the Coma is good. I wish they did more when they could but oh well!
Nurse with wound?
I love it that Too Dark Park is on this short list. A true masterpiece that even people who don't like this kind of music would appreciate. It's an uncomfortable experience and at times confusing when it slowly pulls you in and then punches you in the mouth. This album doesn't give a fuck. It was peak Skinny Puppy.
One thing that I will point out to Oliver is that while he rightfully credits Cevin Key as a main contributor to the band's sound, the true mastermind was actually DR Goettel who created Skinny Puppy's apocalyptic and at times claustrophobic atmosphere. RIP Dwayne. If anyone reading this interested in other works by DR Goettel, check out his side project called Doubting Thomas.
Doubting Thomas changed everything for me. the Infidel remains one of my top 5 go-to records, for any reason.
I really do think Coil was the best original Industrial act, because they presented many forms of creating this apocalyptic and difficult landscape, fusing elements of African and Asian music, Darkwave, Acid House, the classic Musique Concréte sampling, ambient and glitch.
I think C93 would be a more adequate pick for maybe a neofolk video, especially presenting their less orthodox side.
COIL was / is not industrial. I never found a name for their style when I try to describe it. They did to much different ways to do musick.
Throbbing Gristle is the original Industrial act and always will be.
@@HerrTelef They kinda created trance music.
@@mst5g826
Yeah, Coil was some kind of Post-Industrial/Ambient project, like Psychic TV,
Didn't they developed dark ambient/ambient industrial? Their music relied more on industrial atmosphere than pure noise.
Deep cuts, I think doing a video concerning the remembrance and exhultation of controversial artists would be really interesting - Industrial as a genre, in my mind, is the most pertinent area to examine. For example, Boyd Rice, operating under the moniker NON, is a venerable innovator in the genre (just listen to his early tape-loop experiments) and has a rich and abrasive discography. Yet, he holds views and maintains associations that, to put it nicely, are pretty unsavoury - in light of this I can enjoy his work yet never become fully invested in it, like with so many other artists in this genre. A video discussing this would be great!
Some other albums that I think are worth mentioning:
KMFDM - "Nihil"
Revolting Cocks - "Steers Beers + Queers"
Celldweller - "S/T"
Coil - "Horse Rotorvator"
Foetus - "Nail"
Great video as always! All great picks 😊
i'd like to recommend another more underrated industrial record, you suck crap by babyland
Great recommendations!
Great list ! I'd add Chance Meeting on a Dissecting Table of a Sewing Machine and an Umbrella by Nurse with Wound. The Unacceptable Face of Freedom by Test Dept, God and Beast by NON and Cop and Filth by Swans.
Orgy and Marylin Manson......not so much
seriously i think foetus is necessary for everyone to hear
Was really hoping that Foetus record would get mentioned.
“Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse” will always be my favourite Skinny Puppy album, though I will definitely be giving “Too Dark Park” a listen tonight. I had no idea about the abuse that Cosi suffered at the hands of Genesis. Very sad. And, it’s got to be “Twitch” for my Ministry pick. Over the Shoulder blew me away the first time I saw the video on MuchMusic here in Canada.
The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste is my favorite Ministry and the later From Beer to Eternity
Clock DVA "Buried Dreams" is a great record as well.
My favourite album of all time, couldn't stand the Clocks before that, always thought they were jazzy crap! but blood hell, not a filler track on that album, from Buried Dreams all the way through to Hacker! Love Velvet Realm and Soul Mirror
Should have had a Coil album on there imo. Probably the greatest electronic post industrial act of all time
Horse Rotorvator is obligatory to Industrial IMO
Age of Naples is a really beautiful tribute. Horse Rotovator is great as well.
I agree but Coil is quite beyond what was initially considered industrial. They are pretty much a genre themselves.
Horse Rotorvator would have been my guess. But also Scraping Foetus Off the Wheel-Nail would have been one of my choices too. I think a future episode about Coil, Nurse With Wound, Current 93, J.G.Thirlwell, Swans, Laibach, but there is so much to be discussed on the topic. It would have been hard choosing just 5 albums.
Julia Sumerling choosing 5 albums is very limited. But yeah the can of worms you mentioned deserves a deep and thorough examination
Yay! Always wanted to be a builder. Didn’t know certain albums were job requirements though! Might have to reconsider :(
The thing about the term "industrial" is that, like punk, it can refer to a truly broad variety of music with varying degrees of digestibility, such that one style will sound almost nothing like another under this same umbrella term. In the same way that Dillinger Escape Plan sounds nothing like Suicide, so Nine Inch Nails sounds nothing like Throbbing Gristle, and that's ok. Genre branches extend with limbs very different from their roots
The problem is that the term was hi-jacked by the music industry and by some Cock rockers like NIN. Suicide was some kind of Disco-Punk. They don't belong in the industrial context. Industrial is a small genre. The only related genres are Japanoise and Power Electronics (Whitehouse). And maybe Ritual music and Martial Industrial. Everything else is a bunch of Crossover spin-offs that are far away from the Industrial Culture movement.
@@daisaigai7 NIN is definitely not cock rock, sir
@Broken Archetype
What else should it be? Even Skinny Puppy called NIN a cock rock band. cEvin Key and Bill Leeb made fun of Reznor, because he tried to steal Ogre's visual appearance and attitude.
@@retrosonique7129 I love Skinny Puppy, but they can certainly be ill-informed about what constitutes cock rock, in much the same way that you are ill-informed about their influence on Trent. If anything, it is more sonic than aesthetic. Reznor never had the horror/psychedelic/ performance art thing going on like SP did, he never made fashion choices similar to Nivek and the gang that weren't already being done by countless other acts of the era, and his whole vibe has always been quite different and more varied for the most part.
@@BR0K3NARCH3TYP3
I'm not ill-informed because I inform you about the content of several Skinny Puppy interviews and Interviews with FLA. Nobody liked Reznor. FLA, S.P. or KMFDM... they all thought the same.
RIP Genesis 🙏😭
🖤
Unto them from whose eyes the veil of life hath fallen may there be granted the accomplishment of their true Wills; whether they will absorption in the Infinite, or to be united with their chosen and preferred, or to be in contemplation, or to be at peace, or to achieve the labour and heroism of incarnation on this planet or another, or in any Star, or aught else, unto them may there be granted the accomplishment of their wills; yea, the accomplishment of their wills.
AUMGN. AUMGN. AUMGN.
I always thought I was an edgy little shit with my Pretty Hate Machine cassette but then I looked up the stuff you're talking about and realized I had no idea what intense was. Great video!
you're the first person in history to admit that
Pretty Hate Machine, as good as it is, was the album that "broke" industrial music, and in relatively short time it burned hot then turned to shite, imo.
larraby you’re clearly stuck in the past. Industrial is an incredibly flexible and broad genre. NIN? Death Grips? Street Sects? Pharmakon? Lingua Ignota? There’s some amazing industrial music being created these days. You need listen to more new music.
@@gigachad192 its more a case of outgrowing it. what about life suggests that its natural state is monitoring recorded audio? i've done more synthesis than all these artists combined. people don't make recordings that interest me, because my work supercedes them. plus, the region of attention, is juvenile in these modern pop artists. there is so much about music people aren't ready to appreciate when they're young, like, the money, and, the masons. and, the demons.
@@larraby But Pigface!
Foetus is a great industrial project for other suggestions, 'Hole' is my favourite album.
yes please, a video about EBM would be great, massively underrated genre
I'm here for this.
Or Electro-Industrial, if there’s even a difference anymore.
No Cabaret Voltaire? How very dare you sir! No SPK, no NON, Monte Cazazza, Clock DVA or Zoviet France. And that's just off the top of my head!
He can only choose 5, and I think it would be a bigger issue if he hadn't included any of the ones he did, except maybe the last one.
@@tomsteele9103 Young Gods could totally be excluded in favor of Cabs' 'Voice Of America' or 'Mix Up'. Arguably, even SP in favor of SPK (I'd say 'AutoDaFe') or Clock DVA (Buried Dreams, absolutely).
I love Soviet France's output. They remind me of of Eno's ambient pieces. "Shouting at the Ground" is brilliant.
Deep cuts is literally just compilations of Bands I’ve never heard of who make genres I can’t even define. I dig all the discovery
Front Line Assembly had some great records surprised they weren't mentioned
Agreed but only 5 its tough to pick and since Leeb was in Puppy its better to start with them
Could argue they are more EBM than Industrial
Their work matured with time, still relevant I’d say
Yes, some of the older Front Line Assembly songs are very close to EBM, especially *"Lethal Compound"* with its bass sequences. Another one is *"Sedation"* from Gashed Senses and Crossfire.
What's a music nerd gotta do get a Deep Cut's Guide To J.G. Thirlwell?
Great video, Oli (as usual).
its good to have you during quarantine, i love to kill my boredom with some new genres of music
a great subject for '5 Albums to Get You Into...' I thought instead of coming up with an alternate list, I'd mention 2 compilations that led me to explore the albums of Legendary Pink Dots, Lustmord, Coil, Nurse With Wound and many others:
1. Rising From the Red Sand originally released on 5 cassettes in 1983, includes a track by Merzbow, as well as a personal favorite, Bene Gesserit.
2. the Elephant Table Album released on vinyl in 1983, my intro to the Pink Dots, Nurse With Wound, Muslimgauze...etc.
I also think it's worth mentioning the band Fad Gadget, as I think Frank Tovey's DIY synth building and industrial noise aesthetic were of the same time as the seminal TG and the Cabs.
speaking of Cabaret Voltaire: all the albums when they were a 3 piece (with Chris Watson adding some unique tape weirdness), are gold imo. I particularly love Voice of America, Three Mantras, and Eight Crepescule Tracks.
I saw Einstürzende Neubauten in LA in 1989 after the release of Haus der Lüge. phenomenal show!
Robert Hardin the rising from the red sand comp was pretty seminal... this guy really has no clue what he’s talking about to be honest.
Legendary Pink Dots don't get nearly enough respect
Hey Oliver! Hope you're doing very well during the pandemic so far. I'm looking forward to see your second video on the Miles Davis discography. I love these album recommending albums as well.
Holy crap I was literally telling my friend how to get into industrial when my phone notification went off. Thanks man LOL
May I take this time to recommend Street Sects?
The Metal Critic wake up and say something, do something, make something, pretend to feel something...
YEEEEES I LOVE THEM, DISCOVERED THEM A WHILE AND GOD THEYRE.SO GOOOOOOD
Plus their live show is unlike anything I've ever experienced: having your entire field of vision whited out by fog, strobes pulsing in and out, manic screaming from Leo who will just appear out of nowhere right in your face. They're a treasure alone on that front.
Quality stuff coming out of Austin.
It’s not an album, but you’ve forgotten an industrial classic. Full of abrasive power tools and uncompromising rhythm. Hardware Store by Weird Al
I was really expecting Streetcleaner by Godflesh. Still good list tho!
I think so many people associate Godflesh with grindcore because Justin was in Napalm Death and they were on Earache, but Streetcleaner is an absolute Industrial masterpiece and I think they are mandatory on any Industrial list. It was one of the most bleak, stark records ever made. A definite reflection of the Industrial landscape of Birmingham they came from.
a great album indeed - recently rediscovered it after decades - it steered things in new directions with industrial metal; for "industrial" overall though it arguably came quite late in the piece being 10 years after the genre was an established thing.
Might be too late for his timeline but great album
Re: Einstürzende Neubauten - their cover of Lee Hazelwood's 'Sand', from around the time of Halber Mensch, is well worth hunting down and listening to.
Also, Industrial, and related music worth a listen;
Test Dept. - Beating the Retreat
Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel - Nail
Sand is an extra track in the CD.
TEST DEPT.’s Unacceptable Face of Freedom is pretty damn great.
Some pronunciation tips: I-Nsturzende NOIbowten (like OI!), BLIXa BARgelt (emphasis on the CAPS)
Also: "Neubauten" was a term to call buildings built after WW II. So in a sense, the band is commenting on the "haste" of the new West-Germany to "build over" the memory of the recent past, while leaving most people who had served in government during the Nazi regime to keep running it. See some Dave Emory's hundreds of podcasts for details...
Building dating back from before the end of the war, were dubbed "Altbauten".
One artist I would mention is Robert Turman. His album Way Down is a really really good Industrial / early EBM album. Super atmospheric and noisy.
I would've added filth by swans as well
Bryson that would be better for a No Wave list
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Too Dark Park is not exactly "user friendly", although it is SP's best. I'd recommend CFM or Vivisect for starters. TDP needs context to fully appreciate or else it's just a chaotic wall of sound.
Love Too Dark Park, used to do acid and listen to it all the time, maybe that’s what’s wrong with me now...
Firstly a big Thank-You and respect for a good list that avoids the dreaded N word ... Thumbs up for picks 234: EN's "1/2 Mensch" is a must, a peak, for the genre; as is something by Skinny Puppy and 'TDP' is imho a great choice with a mix of abrasiveness with some hooks - works better as an album than some of the others of that period - could say it's the pinnacle of electro industrial. Likewise goes to honouring Ministry and "tLoR&H" album is the meeting ground of their post new wave EBM electro cyberpunk & emerging industrial metal. Seeing Young Gods on the list was a pleasant surprise and reminds me to re-explore their (I recall) more exciting earlier (mid-late 80s) works however the mid 90s stuff, while interesting enough at the time, was not considered to be a pinnacle of the genre(s); hardly anyone took notice of it. Which brings me to perhaps the most controversial point being that Throbbing Gristle's studio recordings - while credited as the start of the industrial genre - are pale timid lacklustre shadows (and arguably embarassing) compared to the imho one really amazing album by them which is the live "Mission of Dead Souls" - it is big, epic, cathartic, lively and intense in the way industrial ought to be; the one TG album I heartily recommend; others are for "yep listened to that". And in regards to the earliest period of industrial studio recordings, that have the sense of "danger" (and humour) that industrial is renowned for, I point people to SPK's "Auto Da Fe" compilation which features the original line-up's early singles like 'Contact', 'Germanik', 'Mekano', 'Slogun' ... plus a range of interesting early-80s phases by the following line-ups before the horrors of the attempted commercial electro-pop of the mid-80s. My pick for the most industrial of albums goes to Laibach's collection of early works titled 'Rekapitulacjia 1980-84" = grand, harsh, epic, bleak, chilling, abrasive, hypnotic, euphoric ... and made in an atmosphere of straddling the Iron Curtain, with one foot slightly in the capitalist west and the other in the eastern bloc of Soviet totalitarianism ruling over hundreds of millions; and the worry of nuclear annihilation hanging over us all. The personal danger of being in a band and making the music they (Laibach) then made - holding a mirror up to the state and to society - was real in a way that makes Western artists seem very safe and rather spoilt in comparison.
Great video. Early industrial is VERY difficult to look back on since listeners tend to fall into camps, then follow their bands back leaving them with a skewed perspective. I myself come from the Ministry camp. Land of Rape and Honey honestly changed my life. A friend of mine has an incredibly similar background found Skinny Puppy first and well it's easy to see how our tastes have diverged from there. I applaud you for living Minie Inch Nails out of this video. I am a big Nine Inch Nails as well, and following their progression and sometimes separation from the 'Industrial scene' could definitely be a distraction from your goal of examining the roots of Industrial music. Keep up the great work.
Foetus, Cop Shoot Cop and Pigface are great industrial acts too, but good picks man
Great choices. This is my "comfortable" genre, I grew up with these artists and although I rarely go to concerts I've seen EN and Young Gods live. With EN it was their Haus der luege period but they did perform Yu-gung. With Young Gods it was the tour to support L'eau Rouge. Great artists and great albums.
I was almost certain you would mention Foetus, damn...
I’m gon go git me sum o that city hot horse
Some other greats to look out for "Horse Rotorvator"by Coil, "Nail" by Scraping Foetus off the Wheel, Drawings of OT by Einsturzende Neubauten, "TV Sky" by The Young Gods, "The Menstral Years" by Current 93, "Loves Secret Domain" by Coil, "Sugar Fish Drink" by Nurse With Wound and "Songs of Byzantine Flowers" by SPK, just for starters. Have fun with that!
I know he could only pick 5 but leaving out coil hurt.
@@drackaris_ The five choices covered so much. It was very carefully selected, it took a vast range in. Certainly there is enough for a part 2 with Coil, JG Thirlwell etc. What else is there to do in Lockdown? When you have all the time, why wouldn't he?
Too Dark Park is one of the most abrasive things I've ever heard, but I like it.
Also another band to mention is Laibach, their early work from Yugoslavia... is 80s industrial with a unique sound
Great list and great descriptions from a genre of music that saw me through my teenage & early adolescent years, and that I still enjoy today. I was blessed to see Einstürzende Neubauten live in Chicago during their last US tour in 98', one of the greatest concerts I've ever had the pleasure of seeing. The jet engine on stage reverberated through the room with such deep purring ferocity that my feet vibrated up off the floor like hydroplaning on a rain slicked street. . Unforgettable. Re-sharing this vid, thanks
That is wild.
I've never listened to industrial so this'll be good
A lot of these picks are kinda difficult starters, nine inch nails would be a better, or killing joke
@@lynnpehrson8826 killing joke's first album or their 90s works is a perfect start
How 'bout Front Line Assembly?
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Can't argue with any of this.
Definitely would have had a side branch with Coil, Current 93 and SPK though.
Anyone else here had their mind blown by Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds' guitarist's other band in the early 90s?
Headcleaner.
Neubauten at the Old Greek Theatre (Melbourne, Australia) in 1990 as a 17 year old kid... mind blown, reconstructed and never the same again for the rest of my existence.
Great video as always although skipping over Coil is a deadly sin.
Great list. Damn I remember when some of those albums were released. I would have thrown a CV or Coil album in there but otherwise my list would be almost the same. Laibach deserves some note. Leaetherstrip and then Wumpscut cap the worth while era of industrial transitioning it to electro. Everything since then although sometimes really good, seems to be too derivative. However the current wave of industrial influenced experimental pop and classical is quite worthwhile (thank you melon). TKK is very listenable even now in 2020 IMO perhaps underrated due to their level of camp. Trent reznor's best work is with 1000 Homo DJs.
I read this and thought well someone shares my opinion. And I realized I wrote it lol
Don't forget SPK.
As a huge fan of industrial, here is my list of top-5 favorite industrial albums, which are not obvious:
1. Sister Machine Gun - Torture Technique (trademark Wax Trax! sound, definition of post-industrial to me);
2. Fetish 69 - Atomized;
3. Christ Analogue - In Radiant Decay;
4. Die Warzau - Convenience;
5. Slick Idiot - DickNity.
Skinny Puppy made me buy synthesizers, Kraftwerk made me buy a vocoder, TG made me use gear it wasn't intended.
At a Skinny Puppy show bought Puppy Gristle (Genesis P. Orridge & Skinny Puppy). At a different show also in Amsterdam one year later I met Ogre, very nice guy.
The list is very good yet my fav SP albums are Cleanse Fold & Manipulate and Last Rights. Dwayne Goettel made SP more layered and deeper sounding, fan since 1988.
Yeah SP changed my life. Everyone has that one band that really defined them as a person in the formative years and SP did that for me. I can't say I'm a fan of anything after The Process really. I wish they'd left it there after Dwayne died. TGWOTR was ok but everything that came after sounds like an OHGR album remixed by Download. And they should have acknowledged that and released those albums under a different name. Sigh.
Please make an episode about Laibach
This guy and these videos are a treasure for UA-cam
First of all, your choices for #1, #2, & #3: excellent choices, as an old skool industrial girl myself.
#4: TOO DARK PARK was their worst album (personal opinion) when you have Mind: perpetual Intercourse. That whole album IS so the idea of what Industrial music should and is.
2 bands that you forgot and could of replaced w/ the young gods: Front Line Assembly or KMFDM. Both bands have extensive and great back catalogs -along with their current works.... personally, i never liked the young gods.. just seemed so... 🤨😴😟🥱
pretty cool to hear that coming from an og industrial girl. I dig MPI on a very special level, there's something really sensuous to it depite all the grime, it's so perfect it's got FAT big beats, great noise manipulation, dynamic twists and turns, NO guitar or very few (which I like). Dwayne's shining moment. It's just so hip I agree that it's a real cool sound for Puppy and it's my personal favourite.
I adore the videos for that record also! and the remix they use for Stairs and Flower is SO good! rythmic and punchy
Bourbonese Qualk
Einstürzende Neubauten is my favourite band and Halber Mensch is my favourite album they recorded - probably my favourite album of all time. It's hard to explain how much it shaped me and my music taste. Life is never the same once you heard Neubauten.
Really surprised scraping foetus off the wheel album, nail not mentioned for me thirwell personifies industrial.
I saw the Young Gods live at the Kilburn ballroom, along with Meat Beat Manifesto and Sheep on Drugs. All superb bands/artists.
DieHard coil fan. Please do a video on them. They so deserve it!🙏✌