I fully support devs punishing cheating by cleverly ruining the gaming experience for said cheaters. Not being able to see other players in an MMORPG or FPS is totally fair. I find it especially delicious when the anti-cheat measures get the cheaters to out themselves because they think the game itself is bugged, when it’s actually only messed up for them. Letting them submit tickets, or post complaints on forums and having the devs explain how the anti-cheating measures are working as intended 😂
That was actually the case for Batman: Arkham Asylum. Cheaters couldn't glide properly - and the amount of forum posts from people asking why they couldn't was just a thing of beauty to watch.
That was honestly devious as hell, if I were the Devs and saw a slew of players complaining about "bugs" knowing they basically outed themselves. I'd have a laugh for days man.
It's the equivalent of being accused of steroid use in gym while being an actual natural. Unfortunately today, most fitness influencers are on gear and set unrealistic standards for people.
Not only are the "messing with the cheaters" anti cheats amusing, the players, especially streamer cheaters happily out themselves. That is arguably the most glorious bit. I remember a big streamer getting dunked on for uploading a COD "bug" because his chute was deactivated. All the comments were "stop cheating then" 😂
I worked at a major studio. One of our anti cheat methods was able to very subtly change your UI if the game client was being tempered with. We caught soooo many streamers with it.
@ROCKYPLAYA no reason to believe this user is what hr says he is; but that is an actual strat used in some games popular among streamers. It's usually something innoccuous, a single icon is a different shape or different color on the edge of the screen, and it is still done.
@@Taolan8472 It's not that you *couldn't* do this, but *why* would you do this? If the game client can detect the user cheating, it could just tell the server directly. Why go to the effort of sneaking visual cues into the UI and hoping a dev will see the results on a stream?
There are 3 reasons why I never play online multiplayer games. 1) I prefer to just play single player games 2) Online multiplayer generally means microtransactions galore 3) Cheaters are everywhere, regardless of the game.
You are overstating massively. 1) That is fine, your preference is vaild 2) CS:GO, Overwatch.. They do only cosmetics atleast for the years that I played. 3) I play on european servers and in the thousands of hours I played I encountered maybe 10 cheaters. Though less competitive, more casual friendly games like COD or Tarkov have a lot more that is certainly true. But you can play normally for long times and cheaters are extremely rare occurances, atleast if you don't automatically accuse everyone better than you of cheating.
@@Jartran72 How do you know who's cheating? My issue is, now you have to assume they're just better than you when they could be doing something dodgy. How does one know?
I just find cheating so bewildering. You got a game to play, but you don't play it. Nobody cares about your video game playing skills. It's not an impressive skill set on its own.
@@ConnorHammond most cheaters are just bad at the game, so it's pretty easy to know when they cheat. i once (in a CoD game) ran in front of a building, no windows, at a distance that i wouldn't be heard and a guy steps into the hallway of that building and one shots me. seeing as he had no way of knowing me running past that building and only having a split second for that one shot it's pretty obvious he used an cheats to see through walls to know where other players were, and maybe even had an aimbot. cheaters don't have to put in the effort so they become even more lazy and often don't even try to hide that they are cheating.
OH YEAH, YOU STILL GONNA FEEL THAT WAY WHEN IT COMES OUT THAT HE WAS DATAMINING TOO??? OR IS HIS CRIME OKAY BECAUSE YOU DONT LIKE CHEATERS??? HOW ABOUT WHEN A PRESIDENTIAL ELECITON IS CHEATED???
I like the music he played over the demo recordings. I don't know what it's called but it just made the exploits funnier. Like the one where they could never plant the c4, lol, or the non existent round that would make a firing sound
Bad Egg doesn't hatch outside of Ruby/Sapphire. It just sits there mocking you and taking up space, unless you check it's summary (in the games that let you) then the game crashes sometimes. It's an error handler they implemented after learning from the Missingno glitch. Originally it wasn't specifically there just to stop cheaters, the game's hardware was prone to failure especially during things like trading over link cable or saving the game. Better to end up losing just that one glitched Pokemon than possibly bricking the entire save or even the cart itself.
That's how I do it. The ONLY online cheat/mods I partake in, is on game servers with that in mind. Take for example GTA V modded online RP servers where everyone has an equal advantage, but still admins on the server that'll step in if you're being unreasonable about it. But I mostly stick with single-player games for that, and typically will try to beat the game first unless it was boring.
CHEATING ONLY RUINS SOMEONE ELSES GAME WHEN YOU ARE ACTIVELY GREIFING THEM...I USED CHEATS IN SOLO LOBBIES IN GTA, HOW IS THAT RUINING ANYONE ELSES EXPERIENCE
@@leonIdas002 Did you forget to turn off All Caps? Your comment translates you shouting/yelling to others reading your comment. To me it reads as incomprehensible ranting.
There's a lot less cheaters on Xbox Live. It's a lot harder to cheat on there compared to a PC IMO. Not impossible, but still much harder and more technical.
@postmodernmining glad you mentioned it. I listen to the soundtrack still to this day. There's an hour long loop of Foregone Destruction here on UA-cam. At least in that sense, the future isn't all *that* bad.
Public shame of cheaters in games is literally the best way to handle cheaters in my opinion. Cheating is about getting an advantage over others for a false ego boost. A silent slap on the hand doesn't fix anything.
Not true. People cheat because it's fun while legit players cry and give some hilarious reactions. Shaming does absolutely nothing when you can just make a new account
@@lukasz4282 it depends on the game. Getting an unfair advantage online, kinda a dick move, but sure, some are just trolling rather than 'no one can beat me with these cheats'.
Proud to say I've never cheated in any multiplayer game, but the presence of cheaters has absolutely pushed me to primarily single player games. Trying to cheat other people just trying to have fun doesn't sit right with me. Very unfortunate.
I remember Adventure Quest Worlds had a funny way to deal with Bots. When detected, the next time the player logged in, the character would be stripped down to their boxer shorts, their entire inventory removed except for a note giving you a warning to not do it again.
That part might be wholesome, but the devs are really out of their depth. I played that game religiously for years and they kept shooting themselves in the foot by removing levels, features, sometimes outfits, and then when they added user levels, they'd either pick streamer levels that sucked, or little Timmy levels that were downright unplayable/unfinished. It's nice that they got rid of those who'd fly to the finish line, but... now we get to all slog through 2% of the game in a loop while the other 98% are "vaulted because the Nintendo Switch can't handle it". And of course if the cheater was popular on their Discord/Twitter/etc., devs and other community members would go "lol it's just lag, you got skill issue"
Cheaters are the reason why I am strictly a single player kind of gamer. I only play 1 multiplayer game and it's an MMO. Everything else I play is single player. Not worth my limited time after work to deal with these scums.
One of my favorite stories is of indie tycoon game Software Inc which, if pirated, would let you play normally but when you release a piece of software, would make people get pirated copies instead of legitimate copies, making the game impossible to play.
I think you mean Game Dev Tycoon... and yeah, there were even forum posts with pirates asking how to research DRM. Irony truly _is_ lost on some people!
0:23 Number 20 Valve's Dummy Code Trap 1:23 Number 19 Script Kid's Fake Cheats 2:30 Number 18 Call of Duty's Cheater Punishment 4:20 Number 17 GTA Online's Exploding Cars 5:25 Number 16 Titanfall's Cheater Lobby 6:44 Number 15 Eve Online's Bot Executions 8:56 Number 14 Hypixel's Invisible NPCs 10:15 Number 13 Call of Duty's Fake Enemies 11:31 Number 12 Pokémon Go's Shadow Bands 12:55 Number 11 Fall Guys' Cheaters Island 13:52 Number 10 Valkyrie Profile 2's System Infection 15:14 Number 9 Modern Warfare 2's Gun Disarming 16:08 Number 8 Bohemia Interactive's Russian Snitch 17:27 Number 7 Pokemon 18:15 Number 6 Escape from Tarkov's Bounty System 19:36 Number 5 War Zone parachute cut 20:35 Number 4 RuneScape's Botney Bay 21:41 Number 3 Guild Wars 2's Cheater Punishment 22:39 Number 2 World of Warcraft's Cleaner 23:36 Number 1 XBox1 changing your name To Cheater MC cheat
Stopping cheats in multiplayer games is a noble but ultimately futile effort. But punishingly harsh consequences for cheating in single player games? Why? Who cares if you cheat in a single player game! It's not affecting anybody else.
@@Redwan777Nah if someone wants to do drugs they should be able to do it and government shouldn't be able to stop them or put them in jail for their own self destructive choicesm
See, my take on cheating is like this: in a multiplayer title, it's a no-go. But in a single player game, it is fine. I have Fallout 4 and Starfield modded to hell and back, and one of my FO4 mods I use is legit called "Cheat Terminal". So ye, that's just my stance.
This. The only problem with cheating in single player games is that rare Achievements tend to be easier to obtain. I always _try_ to play each game legitimately. Only if I decide a portion of a single player game is unnecessarily difficult do I fire up a cheat program. Even then, I limit my cheating to slowing down games to a playable level (as much as 90% slowdown). Multiplayer games, on the other hand, are supposed to put everyone on equal footing. In multiplayer, it's definitely more along the lines of "git gud scrub" and I never, ever cheat in multiplayer games. In nearly all cases of cheating, cheaters are still beatable by far more skilled non-cheating players.
I heavily modified my first Fallput 4 playthrough, and after hundreds of hours the only negative was no achievements. It the 2024 update scrubbed all my mods, been interesting to see what disappeared. I only started modding it so Dogmeat wouldn’t get hurt, and once I did one mod…. Hard to stop.
Of course, a detail you left out is that Eve's own GMs have been caught cheating (and helping specific in-game corps cheat) more than once. The last time I played Eve (years ago), I found a few marketplace bots, managed to bait them into making me a multi-billionaire, reverse-engineered one of them, sent CCP (the developers) all the data (where I specified that someone running one of those bots could basically pay for a fully upgraded account in about 6 days), and they thanked me for my report and said they "were going to look into it"... _twenty-seven _*_months_* later. And when I asked if they were joking their reply was "no, this shows we're taking action". So, either I reported bots operated by yet another GM (who deliberately hid them), or they really _are_ that incompetent.
There was(?) a guild in Ark Survival Evolved that was notorious for being cheating scum employees of the publishing company. You couldn't do anything about it, you just had to avoid the hell out of them because there were never any consequences for them. No idea if they're still playing in Ascended, but I assume they are.
Oh I got one for you Falcon. In EverQuest 2, they took all the problem people and locked them via IP to there "special server" which got no regular updates like the main servers. So they can still pay and play the game, but there accounts are locked so they can't interact with anyone else in the game, and miss out on special developer run events and such.
I'm the kind of legitimate player who would want to go to a server/POI full of cheaters to train and get stronger by fighting and annihilating every single cheater without any special powers like they have. Much like how Vegeta does pushups at high gravity to get stronger.
The PlayStation 2 games that had loads of cheats in were amazing! Writing down all the button inputs and getting cheat books with magazines made the game so fun after you had completed it legitimately:) … the issue is when it comes to modern games with cheating online
or with the ratchet and clank games you have the earn the cheats by collecting the gold bolts meaning all those new game pluses your doing you will be all powerful in
Indeed. I sometimes use cheats on single player games just for fun, or to test the limits of the game, or simply to skip a boring part and get to the fun parts faster.
Pokémon Sapphire was my first Pokémon game. I received a bad egg from an NPC in the sunken ship. Never cheated in the game. I imagine something in my save file corrupted and that was the result. The bad egg didn't spread nor ruin anything, thankfully.
I've dealt with bad egg mess in an emulator while looking at the memory viewer, it's gross Sometimes they overflow and fill a little of the next pokemon box slot (data-wise, I mean; you can't see it), and that's just bad news for whatever pokemon you had there or maybe even one that you put there in the future
Batman Arkham Asylum punishing cheaters by not letting them glide was a great one. You could get 20 minutes into the game before you realised you couldn’t progress any further
IT WAS NOT THAT LONG... IT WAS LIKE THE FIRST SECTION WHEN YOU HAVE TO GLIDE OVER TO SAVE THE INMATE FROM FALLING... I REMEMBER THAT BEING AN ISSUE WHEN THE FIRST CRACK WAS RELEASED, THEN I BOUGHT ARKHAM KNIGHT AND GOT ALL THE OTHERS FOR KEEPING IT...
Last time I cheated in a Single Player game was during the Sega Mega Drive followed by the PS1 era. Haven't cheated in a game since then. Honestly though I don't care if people cheat in Single Player but online is obviously a big no no.
@daniels9226 Honestly it depends I like cheating in single player games after beating them, it's more fun to find what makes the game tick than the actual game sometimes
I mean, I can totally understand that you want to get rid of cheaters in PvP Games, but Singleplayer? Nobody gets harmed if I make my Pokémon into a god or something.
Titanfall’s way of handling cheaters is my favorite method, put them in a dunce lobby, Sea of Thieves could really benefit from that when it comes to the PvP diving mode.
The last time I logged into RS, which was about a year ago, they still had the cages and the NPCs, but since the devs had moved onto other more effective anti-cheat measures years ago, those were more of a memento.
Hot damm love this bird, I remember the days playing modern warfare 2 and being accused of having a lag switch, but was just having really bad internet living in ireland 😂
I want to see more of them do something like Runescape, that's hilarious and pulls legitimate players into it in a fun way, makes a sort of event out of it. I can see how that would also help foster a community of legit players who don't take botters lightly. Where they wouldn't be only vaguely annoyed at their presence, depending on how many you see 24/7 and how commonplace it is, but actively reporting those they find so that they have more opportunities to throw tomatoes.
Personally, I don't care if people cheat in games, as long as its a single player or campian, who cares how they play. But I'm defiantly against cheating on compation/multiplayer-online games. Like why? Either get good or get gone
Anyone else happen to play Phantasy Star Online on the Dreamcast? The cheating on there was insane, if you joined a game with someone they could literally turn your character into different NPCs and there was nothing you could do about it. They could reset your Dreamcast, bsod you all kinds of stuff.
That, and by plugging a PS1-adaptor keyboard (The old school ones, with the circular plug!) you could type more symbols then was originally intended for in PSO; you could send mail that contained an *illegal symbol* which crashed the game on their end. I will admit it was an amazing game, but it's a showcase in how *not* to do security for a game. If your mail system allows people to reprogram the game from the inside out you can be absolutely certain that people will do it.
NUL, level 5 . My brother was super into it, including being a victim and doing other stuff. Of course when it came out on PC they went right back into it - I remember a trick that messed over the anti-cheat was just clicking hook/unhook exe repeatedly in Cheat Engine, and it wouldn't get caught lol
@@doublepinger That's due to a major dev oversight for PSO1 particularly; when it thinks there might be something listening in (A port sniffer, or a range finder) it'll throw up something to try to make it lag while it "feels" if it's being watched. This fails because it's called exactly *ONCE* and never used again. By hitting hook/unhook, it meets the criteria for "I Think I am being Watched" but can't get the criteria for "I caught you!" and ends up looking like a conspiracy theory lunatic. "I Think i am being watched, but can't prove it, so I'm gonna act out." An easy fix is obfuscation; or using a float to provide a custom key for the current dataset. Harder to hack then making your programming behave like it smokes rocks.
I literally like b4 i watch the video lmao. Been watching for years. Y'all are consistent and I've purchased multiple games because you guys, and found a new genre thanks to Falcon. Love you guys!!
Back when i was a kid, I had pokemon emerald on the gameboy. I got a bad egg, and it broke the entire game lol. There's no way to delete the save file, and the game itself crashes. I was so sad. I was young so I never realized it was because I used a gameshark. I'm 28 now and never cheat in singleplayer games anymore, jsut because I think it's boring. But I think it was f'd up to do that to kids just playing a game boy game.
its starting to seem like they just rename videos but the content is the exact same. same concept for the video just different games talked about...also just did a search and they do at least 1 of these "how companies punish cheaters" videos every year so yeah, rehashing ideas with different list. hate to see it.
Only so many unique videos a gaming channel can make before it comes to scraping the bottom of the barrel and it happens fast, Gameranx is getting to be an old channel. I think this is the highest number of entries they have done for this type of video but yeah it is not the first.
Capitalism is an irrational system that demands we all generate ever increasing amounts of money, so there are times where people producing anything (UA-cam videos, games, food, housing) have to do seemingly strange/irrational things to keep up with the ridiculous growth demands of the system
This title had me duped for a second hoping for a "Traps that everyone fell for in games" before i read cheaters, i would absolutely love a video like that tho
20: Real trap 19: 3rd party bait 18: Not a trap, just fun punishment 17: Not a trap, just fun punishment 16: Not a trap, just fun punishment 15: Not a trap, just fun punishment 14: Real trap 13: Real trap 12: Not a trap, just fun punishment 11: Not a trap, just fun punishment. It's also a repeated concept. 10: Not a trap, just fun punishment 09: Not a trap, just fun punishment 08: Real trap 07: Not even a punishment, just error handling 06: Not a trap, just fun punishment. It's not even out yet! 05: Not a trap, just fun punishment 04: Not a trap, just fun punishment 03: Not a trap, just fun punishment 02: Not a trap, just fun punishment 01: Not a trap, just fun punishment In conclusion: 4 / 20 real traps. You are the cheater here.
One cool thing Tarkov did was put high value loot in high up shelves or other spots that are impossible to reach, but in plain view, so that cheaters who have vacuum loot, looting through walls or extended looting reach will pick up the item, and be flagged, where as any normal player will not be able to reach it(and probably be mad about that lol)
Not only do cheaters never learn their lesson, but more than a few get really angry that someone had the gall to catch and punish them! How dare you punish me for cheating!
As someone who has cheated in a game in the past (Combat Arms), I can say I didn't start out cheating, I noticed cheaters more and more in the game and all my complaints and evidence was falling on deaf ears, until one day a friend said "I found out where they're getting the hacks". It wasn't that good of a feeling though because for all the hackers you get revenge on with your own hacks, you're ruining the fun for tons of other normal players by doing so, and in all likelihood I'm not the only one that found their way into hacking by wanting revenge on other hackers, so it's a vicious cycle. Bottom line, the devs need to care about stopping hackers as much as they care about BS like micro-transactions or whatever games in question they're working on will suffer the same fate as... well frankly most online games.
I respect that and believe that’s how many get into it, in fact I’m the same, and since everyone on bo4 cheats I do too, it’s fun and a small community of just cheaters and a lot of them lol, but I won’t take it to another game. I’ve decided cheating is something I just won’t encourage, especially in today’s era. However I will jump back on an old game full of cheaters and cheat the shit out of them sometimes 😂
@@RedFighterNL Agreed. Often your IP is assigned from a pool available through your service providers, and rotates every so often...so banning an IP would just screw over others that use the same ISP.
@davidmcgill1000 they could crash the game, not the PC. Unless you're talking about exploiting unlatched OS vulnerabilities, which would make the game straight up malware.
The "invisible" NPCs that minecraft servers used were so horrifying. You'd be mining in a cave at 3am and you see a random mf running around behind you.
@@harry4502 i'm not very familiar with watchdog or any Minecraft anticheat. But I can tell you with 100% certainty that Brawl used some anticheat that would show random players flying around you. Visibly. Their anticheat was ass, and consistently false auto-banned legit players. Their anticheat system was an ongoing problem the entire time I played on that server.
One of my favorite anit-cheats was, back in the very early days of online first person shooting (we're talking Battlefield 1942 days), every once in a while someone would throw into chat that if you hit alt+F4, you could shoot through wall, or get unlimited ammo without having to reload, or be invisible, etc. Than, about 1/4 of the players would just "inexplicably" drop from the game. It's pretty well know today what alt+F4 does, but back then, there was much more ignorance about what it did. I miss those days.
@@DeLePlays It literally is anti cheating. Sure, it's not a program specifically designed to combat cheating, but if someone believes it's going to let them cheat, and they do it, that would-be cheater is out of the game. Anti-cheating.
cheating is so dumb. You are paying extra money to get bored of a game faster and have your skills get worse. Any temporary positivity you earn from your gameplay pails in comparison to the negativity you receive when discovered. The fact that their are players capable of stomping aim botting and wall hacking clowns should be enough for everyone to understand cheating will never actually meet the level of greatness the cheat makers claim. We know that low effort instant gratification can lead to serious mental health problems. Ain't nothing cheats offer that isn't harmful to the user and everyone that interacts with them. Its like someone going woohoo I stuck a piece of uranium up my ass now I can run faster than everyone, just sucks I and anyone near me is gonna get cancer... We just need more psa type commercials explaining all the downsides to cheating, if their is no desire to cheat then they will disappear
For world records, there's a reason. The prestiege and sometimes money from it (direct payouts or indirect, like being invited to paid events). It's absolutely gross and pathetic.
you're using logic to try and understand the lowest IQ demographic. People who want the game to be as easy as possible are often the kids who barely scraped by in school. I'd bet most cheater IQ falls under 100. Why would u wan the game easier? Because you don't have the brain capacity to play it regularly, because the easiest setting is too difficult for them
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Those who do that will get found out eventually. When you have eyes and ears on you, you will never get away with it. But most online cheaters are actually frustrated basement dwellers with no skills.
Dude you're acting like getting skills in a videogame is something to be desired 😂 A cheater cheats to have fun, not waste hours and hours like a full time job grinding for pixels
fun note about the cod anticheat - it affected hundred and hundreds of innocent people too, because it would detect hardware like specific GPUs as cheats.
Rarely is it about the actual game. Some people get a rush from it. Others get off on making people miserable or ruining their experience. Some crave the attention - you start cheating in a multiplayer game & everyone else in that match begins talking about you. And others just have very little control about anything in their life, but they find one thing they can control, the outcome of a video game match. There’s a lot of reasons. I’ve seen many cheaters in the Division franchise over the years, they aren’t doing it for the rewards, you don’t get much honestly anyways. It’s definitely some external factor.
I have cheated, in a game, ONCE. It was in 1985 on the Commodore 64, a game called “The Bard's Tale”. This games was SO GOOD. There were “traps” spread throughout the game, you never knew when you were going to run into one. Once in the trap, if you did not get out, in time, you would be setback to your last save. So it was an actual ticking clock, and failure REALLY hurt. After I beat the game, I tossed the game into a “HEX” decoder? I can't remember the name. You could take a file from the game, compare the two files and adjust what was changed. By doing this you could adjust your Gold, Items, whatever you wanted as long as you knew the location of the code. It was the first time I had figured out how to “CHANGE” a game. After that, I never did it again because A) It was BORING B) I had already proved I could do it, so the thrill was gone.
Just found you today, good stuff! What do you think of Bungies cheating problem in Destiny 2? Supposedly Battleye is taking care of it but i still run into wall hackers and instant teleport
I get cheating in single player games, but if you have to cheat in multiplayer you are a full blown addict and should have your game taken away from you and go through full blown withdrawal. A week or two and you will realize just how pathetic your obsession was. And lets be honest, it's streamers that cheat because there income depends on it.
I’d say it’s the other way around. I kinda get cheating in multiplayer. If you’re a casual who only has time to put a couple hours in a week and you are just spending your time getting absolutely farmed by sweaty tryhards who have more time in game in the past week than you have overall then I understand trying to get something to even the playing field. It’s still shitty and you deserve the ban, but I understand it. Single player though? Games literally have a difficulty slider, crank it to easy and wander around doing your thing. If you need to install cheat software for a single player game, just unplug and go outside for a while.
@arkhaan7066 I'd have to disagree with your take on single player games, finding what makes a game tick and developing a cheat for it is fun (after beating it of course), and sometimes the game mechanics suck and the story is good, so you want to finish it, and sometimes games just want to waste your time farming stuff Those are my usual scenarios
Fun fact, the real addicts are the ones spending hours and hours grinding for ingame pixels, while cheaters party it out and have real fun at the cost of these losers
Back in 2007, my friend and I played MLB The Show 07, and there were a bunch of cheaters using delay switches to lag the game to throw off timing and defense. So we pitched in and bought one ourselves. He'd use it on me, and we played a crap load. Then, I used it on him extensively. Got to a point when ever someone started to cheat with this, it was like we had a 2nd muscle memory that would kick in. We never used the cheat except to practice ourselves. It was hilarious to get all the rage quit messages from these scumbags because they were using high-profile teams like Yankees or Red Sox, and we still beat their asses with Oakland A's. Good times
Correction falcon on the "cheaters dont learn". you have two basic types of cheaters BOTH of which can be "taught" to leave a game alone and it really comes down to time/money invested per return. So for your cheaters that are after profit(botting, duping etc) they need to be undetected for a certain period of time before being banned before it becomes unprofitable. that is going to vary depending on how "valuable" that bot time is, cost of the game(if any), amount of copies that can be run on one system, etc. For the other type the "doing it for fun" its more of a "how much of a hassle is it" in both cases making a new account/buying one every say 6 months..well thats a lot of time to "enjoy" or "profit" from the cheat so they are probably doing it again. 3 months? you actually get a reasonable falloff in people that will "reinvest" into cheating into the game, 1 week? they are gone if you are consistently banning them in days or weeks. its too much hassle for MOST to cheat at that game. the reason cheating is so prolific is A almost no one bans quickly, and B even if they DO ...its f2p or absurdly cheap to do it again. hence why they are always infested with cheaters.
Most of the time cheater account will last weeks or months and they will just buy a stolen account from shady Russian websites for like 5 dollars. Cheaters usually want to have fun, not treat videogames like a full time job like you 😂
Furthermore, I can't imagine getting banned after buying the game, just to end up buying the game again just to keep cheating, and eventually banned again, falling into a endless cycle of me spending money for cheat.....way a second?....did I just figure out the best anti-cheat system? Bankrupting cheaters? jaja
@@aborda0987 cheaters dont buy the game over again. they buy bulk stolen accounts for literal pennies with the games they want to cheat on. As cheap as 1 dollar for an account that will last up to a week in call of duty
There were 2 cheaters in a cod 4 server back in the day, and eventually, they crossed paths. They accused each other of cheating in chat, and we all just slowly left after they outed themselves. Was the weirdest shit ever that I'll never forget.
There is a certain kind of content creator that believes - truly and deeply, in their heart of hearts - that if they are not talking CONSTANTLY through literally every second of their video, they're somehow doing it wrong. It's almost impressive. Almost.
So many great ideas, and I think maybe the ultimate solution is to do multiple of these but in a cycle, and you keep adding more methods so cheaters trying to circumvent the anti-cheat will probably find it easier to just play the game.
I'm currently developing a browser based multiplayer warfare game. Cheaters simply have their stats reduced over time without telling them. I also allow players to set a minimum opponent experience so even if the cheater notices, and even if they roll a new account, they won't be able to bother well-established players.
While these methods might not be the most effective, they are great for morale for players. Hearing about bans but still seeing hackers feels like nothing is happening. But when you get to see hackers get executed (in game) or humiliated or stuck with other hackers, it warms my soul
I've botted in WoW when grinding for certain mats got insane. It didn't last long before I gave it up but I was so tired of killing the same things over and over. It was so long ago, I don't even remember which expansion.
Another clever way to combat cheaters: A lot of games nowadays let you alt-tab without difficulty. Why not set it so the game checks for known cheats during the startup--during black screen--check web history, takes a screenshot and sends to the devs for evaluating, and if found guilty, **hardware ban**. Permanent ban is great, however, hardware ban is better. Also propose gaming devs worldwide unite on this. PLayer gets hardware ban from one gaming company, it's mirrored across them all. Name and shame them too.
I remember using so many cheats during the Campaign of gta san andreas on xbox that somehow my game got permanently broken. NPCs would do bizarre, unhinged stuff during cutscenes like shooting each other (resulting in a immediate game over) or turning invisible or they wouldnt show up at all which resulted in weirldy hilarious mission cutscenes. I couldnt fix it or progress past certain missions anymore and my game was damaged forever
I love that you either didn't know or couldn't think of a rare pokemon and just said rats. I imagine some Pokemon Go players finding something like Groudon and one dude in the friend group just seeing a photo-realistic rat. Everyone is excited and he's like, aww man, I just got rats...
One of the best things about half of these clever punishments, is that it could possibly lead to cheaters getting bored with the game. If you ban someone they can just make a new account and get right back into it. But if you do something that just makes the game unfun, if they don't quite realize that they were caught cheating and are thus being punished, they are likely to just give up playing entirely because the game just isn't fun.
This reminds me, I got banned from a server back in Bad Company 2 because people didn't know that you could get on top of the windmills on the Heavy Metal map, so they thought my 30-0 KD was cheating. Not everyone you think is cheating, is cheating. 😁
I still remember back on 360 using Modio and a save file editing tool after I finished a game to buff various stats, skills, abilities, etc., and get more joy out of it. Never used it in PVP but helped a lot of people in co-op on Dark Souls, DS2, and other games
I fully support devs punishing cheating by cleverly ruining the gaming experience for said cheaters.
Not being able to see other players in an MMORPG or FPS is totally fair.
I find it especially delicious when the anti-cheat measures get the cheaters to out themselves because they think the game itself is bugged, when it’s actually only messed up for them. Letting them submit tickets, or post complaints on forums and having the devs explain how the anti-cheating measures are working as intended 😂
That was actually the case for Batman: Arkham Asylum. Cheaters couldn't glide properly - and the amount of forum posts from people asking why they couldn't was just a thing of beauty to watch.
That was honestly devious as hell, if I were the Devs and saw a slew of players complaining about "bugs" knowing they basically outed themselves. I'd have a laugh for days man.
@@cybercifradoits a single player game tho right?
@@cybercifrado - Serious Sam 3 also had an invincible scorpion if it detected cheating xD
@Wicked061 i think it was for pirated copies of the game, not cheating
Being called a cheater while youre not cheating is the highest form of gamer respect.
that is also one of the oldest excuses cheaters use
Frankly, you're not great at anything if no-one calls you out for cheating at least once.
@@mikitz still remember my first time playing overwatch 1 I got called a smirf.... I was just super lucky in my first match
It's the equivalent of being accused of steroid use in gym while being an actual natural. Unfortunately today, most fitness influencers are on gear and set unrealistic standards for people.
Cheaters using an mnk on console when everyone else is using a controller.
hi Falcon, it’s me folks
Never gets old
Hey
Falcon responded.😂
@@gameranxTV what song was in the intro?
@@ant1csGamingidk but i transcended
Not only are the "messing with the cheaters" anti cheats amusing, the players, especially streamer cheaters happily out themselves. That is arguably the most glorious bit. I remember a big streamer getting dunked on for uploading a COD "bug" because his chute was deactivated. All the comments were "stop cheating then" 😂
Some even have a sense of humor about it when they get caught.
@@jgkitarel trying to save face more like haha
I worked at a major studio. One of our anti cheat methods was able to very
subtly change your UI if the game client was being tempered with. We caught soooo many streamers with it.
Can you tell what game it was?
If he still works there I think it would be better to remain quiet
Suuuuure, I'm going to believe a random user.
@ROCKYPLAYA no reason to believe this user is what hr says he is; but that is an actual strat used in some games popular among streamers.
It's usually something innoccuous, a single icon is a different shape or different color on the edge of the screen, and it is still done.
@@Taolan8472 It's not that you *couldn't* do this, but *why* would you do this? If the game client can detect the user cheating, it could just tell the server directly. Why go to the effort of sneaking visual cues into the UI and hoping a dev will see the results on a stream?
There are 3 reasons why I never play online multiplayer games.
1) I prefer to just play single player games
2) Online multiplayer generally means microtransactions galore
3) Cheaters are everywhere, regardless of the game.
You are overstating massively.
1) That is fine, your preference is vaild
2) CS:GO, Overwatch.. They do only cosmetics atleast for the years that I played.
3) I play on european servers and in the thousands of hours I played I encountered maybe 10 cheaters. Though less competitive, more casual friendly games like COD or Tarkov have a lot more that is certainly true. But you can play normally for long times and cheaters are extremely rare occurances, atleast if you don't automatically accuse everyone better than you of cheating.
@@Jartran72 How do you know who's cheating? My issue is, now you have to assume they're just better than you when they could be doing something dodgy. How does one know?
I like games with online co op that way if you cheat well your assisting the team in a sense pvp is of limits though
I just find cheating so bewildering. You got a game to play, but you don't play it. Nobody cares about your video game playing skills. It's not an impressive skill set on its own.
@@ConnorHammond most cheaters are just bad at the game, so it's pretty easy to know when they cheat.
i once (in a CoD game) ran in front of a building, no windows, at a distance that i wouldn't be heard and a guy steps into the hallway of that building and one shots me.
seeing as he had no way of knowing me running past that building and only having a split second for that one shot it's pretty obvious he used an cheats to see through walls to know where other players were, and maybe even had an aimbot.
cheaters don't have to put in the effort so they become even more lazy and often don't even try to hide that they are cheating.
The ScriptKid trap was so iconic and hilarious to see back then, wish we could see even more on other games
yup we do have this on cod tho with the fall damage but i havent seen vids for it like scriptkid csgo
OH YEAH, YOU STILL GONNA FEEL THAT WAY WHEN IT COMES OUT THAT HE WAS DATAMINING TOO??? OR IS HIS CRIME OKAY BECAUSE YOU DONT LIKE CHEATERS??? HOW ABOUT WHEN A PRESIDENTIAL ELECITON IS CHEATED???
Should be a game mode tbh. So much fun with your or others character freaking out, throwing the gun away, running around screaming😂
I like the music he played over the demo recordings. I don't know what it's called but it just made the exploits funnier. Like the one where they could never plant the c4, lol, or the non existent round that would make a firing sound
He did a couple vids on CS but I do want him to do more
Bad Egg doesn't hatch outside of Ruby/Sapphire. It just sits there mocking you and taking up space, unless you check it's summary (in the games that let you) then the game crashes sometimes. It's an error handler they implemented after learning from the Missingno glitch.
Originally it wasn't specifically there just to stop cheaters, the game's hardware was prone to failure especially during things like trading over link cable or saving the game. Better to end up losing just that one glitched Pokemon than possibly bricking the entire save or even the cart itself.
I do cheat on Offline games, mostly open world games because its fun. But cheating in online game AND ruining others experience?
That's a big NO NO.
That's how I do it.
The ONLY online cheat/mods I partake in, is on game servers with that in mind.
Take for example GTA V modded online RP servers where everyone has an equal advantage, but still admins on the server that'll step in if you're being unreasonable about it.
But I mostly stick with single-player games for that, and typically will try to beat the game first unless it was boring.
CHEATING ONLY RUINS SOMEONE ELSES GAME WHEN YOU ARE ACTIVELY GREIFING THEM...I USED CHEATS IN SOLO LOBBIES IN GTA, HOW IS THAT RUINING ANYONE ELSES EXPERIENCE
@@leonIdas002 Did you forget to turn off All Caps?
Your comment translates you shouting/yelling to others reading your comment.
To me it reads as incomprehensible ranting.
@@leonIdas002 i mean i get you but it still kinder does
Cheating is for loser with no skills
Online shooters are dead to me. Cheaters ruined it.
Real
Cheaters half by half with developers and their shitty copies.
Remember the good days of Unreal Tournament?
There's a lot less cheaters on Xbox Live. It's a lot harder to cheat on there compared to a PC IMO. Not impossible, but still much harder and more technical.
@postmodernmining glad you mentioned it. I listen to the soundtrack still to this day.
There's an hour long loop of Foregone Destruction here on UA-cam. At least in that sense, the future isn't all *that* bad.
Public shame of cheaters in games is literally the best way to handle cheaters in my opinion. Cheating is about getting an advantage over others for a false ego boost. A silent slap on the hand doesn't fix anything.
Not true. People cheat because it's fun while legit players cry and give some hilarious reactions. Shaming does absolutely nothing when you can just make a new account
@@lukasz4282 it depends on the game.
Getting an unfair advantage online, kinda a dick move, but sure, some are just trolling rather than 'no one can beat me with these cheats'.
@@lukasz4282depends, I just leave and block (makes sure I’m less likely to be paired) I then SS their name and post on discord and Reddit
@@lukasz4282 that's the oldest cope in the book.
Not true. Some cultures say if they are available why are you not using them.
Proud to say I've never cheated in any multiplayer game, but the presence of cheaters has absolutely pushed me to primarily single player games.
Trying to cheat other people just trying to have fun doesn't sit right with me. Very unfortunate.
I remember Adventure Quest Worlds had a funny way to deal with Bots. When detected, the next time the player logged in, the character would be stripped down to their boxer shorts, their entire inventory removed except for a note giving you a warning to not do it again.
didnt they stop that? as like huge amount of the playerbase is using bots?
IIRC they added too much content that required a bunch of time to complete that they gave up punishing the bots@@baldy117irl
At this point I'm certain they encourage bots more than anything, considering the requirements to get the NSoD
The Fall Guys’ devs hoping to teach cheaters empathy is so wholesome and extremely endearing.
That part might be wholesome, but the devs are really out of their depth. I played that game religiously for years and they kept shooting themselves in the foot by removing levels, features, sometimes outfits, and then when they added user levels, they'd either pick streamer levels that sucked, or little Timmy levels that were downright unplayable/unfinished.
It's nice that they got rid of those who'd fly to the finish line, but... now we get to all slog through 2% of the game in a loop while the other 98% are "vaulted because the Nintendo Switch can't handle it".
And of course if the cheater was popular on their Discord/Twitter/etc., devs and other community members would go "lol it's just lag, you got skill issue"
Trying to teach cheaters empathy is like teaching rats to play violin.
Cheaters are the reason why I am strictly a single player kind of gamer. I only play 1 multiplayer game and it's an MMO. Everything else I play is single player. Not worth my limited time after work to deal with these scums.
Just say you are bad af Bro 😂
Cheating isnt THAT ramped lmao might be a skill issue
@@Lundeer- and here we have the other reason multiplayer games sucks.
One of my favorite stories is of indie tycoon game Software Inc which, if pirated, would let you play normally but when you release a piece of software, would make people get pirated copies instead of legitimate copies, making the game impossible to play.
I think you mean Game Dev Tycoon... and yeah, there were even forum posts with pirates asking how to research DRM. Irony truly _is_ lost on some people!
0:23 Number 20 Valve's Dummy Code Trap
1:23 Number 19 Script Kid's Fake Cheats
2:30 Number 18 Call of Duty's Cheater Punishment
4:20 Number 17 GTA Online's Exploding Cars
5:25 Number 16 Titanfall's Cheater Lobby
6:44 Number 15 Eve Online's Bot Executions
8:56 Number 14 Hypixel's Invisible NPCs
10:15 Number 13 Call of Duty's Fake Enemies
11:31 Number 12 Pokémon Go's Shadow Bands
12:55 Number 11 Fall Guys' Cheaters Island
13:52 Number 10 Valkyrie Profile 2's System Infection
15:14 Number 9 Modern Warfare 2's Gun Disarming
16:08 Number 8 Bohemia Interactive's Russian Snitch
17:27 Number 7 Pokemon
18:15 Number 6 Escape from Tarkov's Bounty System
19:36 Number 5 War Zone parachute cut
20:35 Number 4 RuneScape's Botney Bay
21:41 Number 3 Guild Wars 2's Cheater Punishment
22:39 Number 2 World of Warcraft's Cleaner
23:36 Number 1 XBox1 changing your name To Cheater MC cheat
Stopping cheats in multiplayer games is a noble but ultimately futile effort. But punishingly harsh consequences for cheating in single player games? Why? Who cares if you cheat in a single player game! It's not affecting anybody else.
Exactly. If I read a bunch of single-player game hints, is that not also, "cheating"? Stupid....
It's like the war on drugs
@@donk6765Drugs abuse affect everyone in the family. So, that's not a good analogy
@@Redwan777Nah if someone wants to do drugs they should be able to do it and government shouldn't be able to stop them or put them in jail for their own self destructive choicesm
@@TenmasSchoolOfThought It still doesn't just affect them. It's not conducive for society as a whole.
See, my take on cheating is like this: in a multiplayer title, it's a no-go. But in a single player game, it is fine. I have Fallout 4 and Starfield modded to hell and back, and one of my FO4 mods I use is legit called "Cheat Terminal". So ye, that's just my stance.
Single player is just like lucid dreaming. More justified for P2W games. Money is just the acceptable cheating, so what do they expect?
This. The only problem with cheating in single player games is that rare Achievements tend to be easier to obtain. I always _try_ to play each game legitimately. Only if I decide a portion of a single player game is unnecessarily difficult do I fire up a cheat program. Even then, I limit my cheating to slowing down games to a playable level (as much as 90% slowdown). Multiplayer games, on the other hand, are supposed to put everyone on equal footing. In multiplayer, it's definitely more along the lines of "git gud scrub" and I never, ever cheat in multiplayer games. In nearly all cases of cheating, cheaters are still beatable by far more skilled non-cheating players.
What about cosmetics mods i see no problem der
You can't mod starfield there has to be a game first for mods to work 😂.
I heavily modified my first Fallput 4 playthrough, and after hundreds of hours the only negative was no achievements. It the 2024 update scrubbed all my mods, been interesting to see what disappeared. I only started modding it so Dogmeat wouldn’t get hurt, and once I did one mod…. Hard to stop.
Of course, a detail you left out is that Eve's own GMs have been caught cheating (and helping specific in-game corps cheat) more than once.
The last time I played Eve (years ago), I found a few marketplace bots, managed to bait them into making me a multi-billionaire, reverse-engineered one of them, sent CCP (the developers) all the data (where I specified that someone running one of those bots could basically pay for a fully upgraded account in about 6 days), and they thanked me for my report and said they "were going to look into it"... _twenty-seven _*_months_* later. And when I asked if they were joking their reply was "no, this shows we're taking action".
So, either I reported bots operated by yet another GM (who deliberately hid them), or they really _are_ that incompetent.
There was(?) a guild in Ark Survival Evolved that was notorious for being cheating scum employees of the publishing company. You couldn't do anything about it, you just had to avoid the hell out of them because there were never any consequences for them. No idea if they're still playing in Ascended, but I assume they are.
Admiral Ackbar would be proud
Admiral Hackbar is dissapoint.
"It's a trap!"
Ambushed by a plastic sheet
It's a tarp!
Ambushed by a small piece
It's a part!
Oh I got one for you Falcon. In EverQuest 2, they took all the problem people and locked them via IP to there "special server" which got no regular updates like the main servers. So they can still pay and play the game, but there accounts are locked so they can't interact with anyone else in the game, and miss out on special developer run events and such.
I'm the kind of legitimate player who would want to go to a server/POI full of cheaters to train and get stronger by fighting and annihilating every single cheater without any special powers like they have. Much like how Vegeta does pushups at high gravity to get stronger.
The PlayStation 2 games that had loads of cheats in were amazing! Writing down all the button inputs and getting cheat books with magazines made the game so fun after you had completed it legitimately:)
… the issue is when it comes to modern games with cheating online
or with the ratchet and clank games you have the earn the cheats by collecting the gold bolts meaning all those new game pluses your doing you will be all powerful in
I love watching Camomo destroy cheaters in Rust. A true UA-cam gem.
It that time of the day that finished my shift at work
Have rode my bike home
And openned up youtube just to chill with gameranx
I love you guys 🔥🔥
Stopping players from cheating in an off-line single player game is a big no-no for me
Indeed.
I sometimes use cheats on single player games just for fun, or to test the limits of the game, or simply to skip a boring part and get to the fun parts faster.
These days, I just refer to single player cheats as mods. They should be encouraged, IMO. Just not competitively.
I'm really loving these longer videos. Please keep it up! 20 minutes flies by when I'm listening to you talk about things I like.
Pokémon Sapphire was my first Pokémon game. I received a bad egg from an NPC in the sunken ship. Never cheated in the game. I imagine something in my save file corrupted and that was the result. The bad egg didn't spread nor ruin anything, thankfully.
I've dealt with bad egg mess in an emulator while looking at the memory viewer, it's gross
Sometimes they overflow and fill a little of the next pokemon box slot (data-wise, I mean; you can't see it), and that's just bad news for whatever pokemon you had there or maybe even one that you put there in the future
I hear Falcon, I watch. At least you don't owe all of us pizza 🤣
Haha Nice Baldino burn😂
@@ShadowProject01 Jake...man what a deadbeat! Years of watching him and I still haven't gotten even one slice!
last words are pure gold - normal people learn, it seems like cheaters are always the type of person who dont learn
Batman Arkham Asylum punishing cheaters by not letting them glide was a great one. You could get 20 minutes into the game before you realised you couldn’t progress any further
I pretty sure it wasn't cheating, but stealing the game.
IT WAS NOT THAT LONG... IT WAS LIKE THE FIRST SECTION WHEN YOU HAVE TO GLIDE OVER TO SAVE THE INMATE FROM FALLING... I REMEMBER THAT BEING AN ISSUE WHEN THE FIRST CRACK WAS RELEASED, THEN I BOUGHT ARKHAM KNIGHT AND GOT ALL THE OTHERS FOR KEEPING IT...
@@leonIdas002 Stop typing in caps please. It looks like you're shouting or getting angry at people.
Last time I cheated in a Single Player game was during the Sega Mega Drive followed by the PS1 era. Haven't cheated in a game since then. Honestly though I don't care if people cheat in Single Player but online is obviously a big no no.
@@DarkAnomalyShut up you whopper
Rust server owners hire admins to mess with cheaters, which is pretty fun to behold. Camomo has no chill when it comes to cheaters.
SecondLife use to send players to "The Cornfield" map, and RuneScape use to send players into the Void ( were the 'disc of returning' came from ) .
Crazy to think theres MILLIONS of cheaters in gaming in the first place. What a sad life lol
For real might as well not play. Your just doing work at that point
Nadia, Swagg, Bams, Faze, Zlance etc😂😂😂 cheaters
@daniels9226 Honestly it depends
I like cheating in single player games after beating them, it's more fun to find what makes the game tick than the actual game sometimes
The real sad life is grinding out videogames like a full time job, only to get stomped on by a cheater who makes people like you cry 😂
the cheaters in multiplayer really ruin the experience
ScriptKid’s were amazing lmao. The montage of cheaters just jumping off the map 😂
I mean, I can totally understand that you want to get rid of cheaters in PvP Games, but Singleplayer? Nobody gets harmed if I make my Pokémon into a god or something.
Until you take said gawd into a battle against another player.
@@metae.4256 He specifically said "Single Player".
@@endlessstrata6988 but then referred to a game where your progress in single player and multiplayer is the same. Pokemon was just a bad example.
You can. get a PC and use console cmds they exist in every game
@@metae.4256 Learn to read. It's amazing how you got 4 likes.
Titanfall’s way of handling cheaters is my favorite method, put them in a dunce lobby, Sea of Thieves could really benefit from that when it comes to the PvP diving mode.
I remember the bot tomato throwing in runescape. Man the memories.
The last time I logged into RS, which was about a year ago, they still had the cages and the NPCs, but since the devs had moved onto other more effective anti-cheat measures years ago, those were more of a memento.
@@Dargonhuman I remember you could put yourself in them too via a wizard in one of the members areas iirc
love these creative ideas on how to break cheaters.
Glad you like them!
22:28
The happy wave before taking a digger off the bridge is laugh out loud funny.
Hot damm love this bird, I remember the days playing modern warfare 2 and being accused of having a lag switch, but was just having really bad internet living in ireland 😂
I want to see more of them do something like Runescape, that's hilarious and pulls legitimate players into it in a fun way, makes a sort of event out of it.
I can see how that would also help foster a community of legit players who don't take botters lightly. Where they wouldn't be only vaguely annoyed at their presence, depending on how many you see 24/7 and how commonplace it is, but actively reporting those they find so that they have more opportunities to throw tomatoes.
The Pokémon Go shadow ban struck me. I barely play the game, and don't cheat - I did go cross country twice, but that was legitimate travel!
Thank you for never calling them "hackers"
Personally, I don't care if people cheat in games, as long as its a single player or campian, who cares how they play. But I'm defiantly against cheating on compation/multiplayer-online games. Like why? Either get good or get gone
Making "Take a shot every time Falcon says cheater" a drinking game was a bad idea....
Anyone else happen to play Phantasy Star Online on the Dreamcast? The cheating on there was insane, if you joined a game with someone they could literally turn your character into different NPCs and there was nothing you could do about it. They could reset your Dreamcast, bsod you all kinds of stuff.
That, and by plugging a PS1-adaptor keyboard (The old school ones, with the circular plug!) you could type more symbols then was originally intended for in PSO; you could send mail that contained an *illegal symbol* which crashed the game on their end. I will admit it was an amazing game, but it's a showcase in how *not* to do security for a game. If your mail system allows people to reprogram the game from the inside out you can be absolutely certain that people will do it.
NUL, level 5 . My brother was super into it, including being a victim and doing other stuff. Of course when it came out on PC they went right back into it - I remember a trick that messed over the anti-cheat was just clicking hook/unhook exe repeatedly in Cheat Engine, and it wouldn't get caught lol
@@doublepinger That's due to a major dev oversight for PSO1 particularly; when it thinks there might be something listening in (A port sniffer, or a range finder) it'll throw up something to try to make it lag while it "feels" if it's being watched.
This fails because it's called exactly *ONCE* and never used again. By hitting hook/unhook, it meets the criteria for "I Think I am being Watched" but can't get the criteria for "I caught you!" and ends up looking like a conspiracy theory lunatic. "I Think i am being watched, but can't prove it, so I'm gonna act out."
An easy fix is obfuscation; or using a float to provide a custom key for the current dataset. Harder to hack then making your programming behave like it smokes rocks.
I literally like b4 i watch the video lmao. Been watching for years. Y'all are consistent and I've purchased multiple games because you guys, and found a new genre thanks to Falcon. Love you guys!!
Back when i was a kid, I had pokemon emerald on the gameboy. I got a bad egg, and it broke the entire game lol. There's no way to delete the save file, and the game itself crashes. I was so sad. I was young so I never realized it was because I used a gameshark. I'm 28 now and never cheat in singleplayer games anymore, jsut because I think it's boring. But I think it was f'd up to do that to kids just playing a game boy game.
I used a gameshark back then too. i lost my save file on saphire
But you still do in multiplayer? :o
5:20 "it's like the Cyber truck"... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I literally stopped the video and laughed out loud for about ten seconds at that. Mostly because of how unexpected it was.
Is it just me, or has Gameranx done this exact same video topic before? Still love the content, though!
its starting to seem like they just rename videos but the content is the exact same. same concept for the video just different games talked about...also just did a search and they do at least 1 of these "how companies punish cheaters" videos every year so yeah, rehashing ideas with different list. hate to see it.
Only so many unique videos a gaming channel can make before it comes to scraping the bottom of the barrel and it happens fast, Gameranx is getting to be an old channel. I think this is the highest number of entries they have done for this type of video but yeah it is not the first.
Honestly the gaming industry is just bone dry compared to 20 years ago
Capitalism is an irrational system that demands we all generate ever increasing amounts of money, so there are times where people producing anything (UA-cam videos, games, food, housing) have to do seemingly strange/irrational things to keep up with the ridiculous growth demands of the system
that was years ago, i for one will never go back n scroll their old videos... so this is nice...
This title had me duped for a second hoping for a "Traps that everyone fell for in games" before i read cheaters, i would absolutely love a video like that tho
20: Real trap
19: 3rd party bait
18: Not a trap, just fun punishment
17: Not a trap, just fun punishment
16: Not a trap, just fun punishment
15: Not a trap, just fun punishment
14: Real trap
13: Real trap
12: Not a trap, just fun punishment
11: Not a trap, just fun punishment. It's also a repeated concept.
10: Not a trap, just fun punishment
09: Not a trap, just fun punishment
08: Real trap
07: Not even a punishment, just error handling
06: Not a trap, just fun punishment. It's not even out yet!
05: Not a trap, just fun punishment
04: Not a trap, just fun punishment
03: Not a trap, just fun punishment
02: Not a trap, just fun punishment
01: Not a trap, just fun punishment
In conclusion: 4 / 20 real traps. You are the cheater here.
Thanks! Almost every video today has a click-bait title-LIE
One cool thing Tarkov did was put high value loot in high up shelves or other spots that are impossible to reach, but in plain view, so that cheaters who have vacuum loot, looting through walls or extended looting reach will pick up the item, and be flagged, where as any normal player will not be able to reach it(and probably be mad about that lol)
Always look forward to videos with Falcon's wonderful bird voice narrating
It's actually amazing the amount of content you guys can put out, ontop of it being high quality!
Scriptkid. That’s a genius move.
Not only do cheaters never learn their lesson, but more than a few get really angry that someone had the gall to catch and punish them! How dare you punish me for cheating!
As someone who has cheated in a game in the past (Combat Arms), I can say I didn't start out cheating, I noticed cheaters more and more in the game and all my complaints and evidence was falling on deaf ears, until one day a friend said "I found out where they're getting the hacks". It wasn't that good of a feeling though because for all the hackers you get revenge on with your own hacks, you're ruining the fun for tons of other normal players by doing so, and in all likelihood I'm not the only one that found their way into hacking by wanting revenge on other hackers, so it's a vicious cycle. Bottom line, the devs need to care about stopping hackers as much as they care about BS like micro-transactions or whatever games in question they're working on will suffer the same fate as... well frankly most online games.
Combat arms was the only game I ever cheated in it was hard not too 😅
I respect that and believe that’s how many get into it, in fact I’m the same, and since everyone on bo4 cheats I do too, it’s fun and a small community of just cheaters and a lot of them lol, but I won’t take it to another game. I’ve decided cheating is something I just won’t encourage, especially in today’s era. However I will jump back on an old game full of cheaters and cheat the shit out of them sometimes 😂
There are things that I had no idea about, but I'm loving finding out about this. Gameranx knocks this outta the park with Falcon at the bat! 🤘
Is there a reason why they can't ban an IP address or even a MAC address to eliminate the cheater from ever using the same PC in the a game like COD?
Generally your IP address isn't static, it can change. As for MAC address, this can be spoofed fairly easily
@@RedFighterNL Agreed. Often your IP is assigned from a pool available through your service providers, and rotates every so often...so banning an IP would just screw over others that use the same ISP.
Best they could do is deploy an update specifically for said cheater that crashes the PC, but that's unethical.
@davidmcgill1000 they could crash the game, not the PC. Unless you're talking about exploiting unlatched OS vulnerabilities, which would make the game straight up malware.
The "invisible" NPCs that minecraft servers used were so horrifying. You'd be mining in a cave at 3am and you see a random mf running around behind you.
Not at all what watchdog does
@@harry4502 i'm not very familiar with watchdog or any Minecraft anticheat. But I can tell you with 100% certainty that Brawl used some anticheat that would show random players flying around you. Visibly. Their anticheat was ass, and consistently false auto-banned legit players. Their anticheat system was an ongoing problem the entire time I played on that server.
Good Morning Falcon! Thanks for the awesome video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
YESS, LONGER GAMERANX VIDEOS 🙌
One of my favorite anit-cheats was, back in the very early days of online first person shooting (we're talking Battlefield 1942 days), every once in a while someone would throw into chat that if you hit alt+F4, you could shoot through wall, or get unlimited ammo without having to reload, or be invisible, etc. Than, about 1/4 of the players would just "inexplicably" drop from the game. It's pretty well know today what alt+F4 does, but back then, there was much more ignorance about what it did. I miss those days.
That's literally not anti-cheating. That's being an asshole. Funny all the same though.
@@DeLePlays It literally is anti cheating. Sure, it's not a program specifically designed to combat cheating, but if someone believes it's going to let them cheat, and they do it, that would-be cheater is out of the game. Anti-cheating.
Impressive how u guys found 20 different ways that devs dealt with cheaters, very interesting video!
cheating is so dumb. You are paying extra money to get bored of a game faster and have your skills get worse. Any temporary positivity you earn from your gameplay pails in comparison to the negativity you receive when discovered. The fact that their are players capable of stomping aim botting and wall hacking clowns should be enough for everyone to understand cheating will never actually meet the level of greatness the cheat makers claim. We know that low effort instant gratification can lead to serious mental health problems. Ain't nothing cheats offer that isn't harmful to the user and everyone that interacts with them. Its like someone going woohoo I stuck a piece of uranium up my ass now I can run faster than everyone, just sucks I and anyone near me is gonna get cancer... We just need more psa type commercials explaining all the downsides to cheating, if their is no desire to cheat then they will disappear
For world records, there's a reason. The prestiege and sometimes money from it (direct payouts or indirect, like being invited to paid events). It's absolutely gross and pathetic.
you're using logic to try and understand the lowest IQ demographic. People who want the game to be as easy as possible are often the kids who barely scraped by in school. I'd bet most cheater IQ falls under 100. Why would u wan the game easier? Because you don't have the brain capacity to play it regularly, because the easiest setting is too difficult for them
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Those who do that will get found out eventually. When you have eyes and ears on you, you will never get away with it. But most online cheaters are actually frustrated basement dwellers with no skills.
Nadia, Swagg, Bams, Faze, Zlance etc cheaters😂😂😂
Dude you're acting like getting skills in a videogame is something to be desired 😂 A cheater cheats to have fun, not waste hours and hours like a full time job grinding for pixels
fun note about the cod anticheat - it affected hundred and hundreds of innocent people too, because it would detect hardware like specific GPUs as cheats.
I never understood why anyone would want to cheat… Like why even play the game at that point?
Rarely is it about the actual game. Some people get a rush from it. Others get off on making people miserable or ruining their experience. Some crave the attention - you start cheating in a multiplayer game & everyone else in that match begins talking about you. And others just have very little control about anything in their life, but they find one thing they can control, the outcome of a video game match.
There’s a lot of reasons. I’ve seen many cheaters in the Division franchise over the years, they aren’t doing it for the rewards, you don’t get much honestly anyways. It’s definitely some external factor.
I’m so glad y’all are making longer videos❤️
0:12 "(inaudible)" in the manual subtitles. It's RUSES.
Are we sure they're not auto-generated? Genuinely don't know lol
I have cheated, in a game, ONCE. It was in 1985 on the Commodore 64, a game called “The Bard's Tale”. This games was SO GOOD. There were “traps” spread throughout the game, you never knew when you were going to run into one. Once in the trap, if you did not get out, in time, you would be setback to your last save. So it was an actual ticking clock, and failure REALLY hurt.
After I beat the game, I tossed the game into a “HEX” decoder? I can't remember the name. You could take a file from the game, compare the two files and adjust what was changed. By doing this you could adjust your Gold, Items, whatever you wanted as long as you knew the location of the code. It was the first time I had figured out how to “CHANGE” a game. After that, I never did it again because A) It was BORING B) I had already proved I could do it, so the thrill was gone.
0:09 This weird question is answered within the question itself.
What question? 😂
Just found you today, good stuff! What do you think of Bungies cheating problem in Destiny 2? Supposedly Battleye is taking care of it but i still run into wall hackers and instant teleport
how can max payne 3 ban cheaters isnt it a sp game only
"Randomly get flash-banged in the face..." Guess I'll be cleaning the coffee of my monitor now. Thanks, Falcon.
I get cheating in single player games, but if you have to cheat in multiplayer you are a full blown addict and should have your game taken away from you and go through full blown withdrawal. A week or two and you will realize just how pathetic your obsession was. And lets be honest, it's streamers that cheat because there income depends on it.
I’d say it’s the other way around. I kinda get cheating in multiplayer. If you’re a casual who only has time to put a couple hours in a week and you are just spending your time getting absolutely farmed by sweaty tryhards who have more time in game in the past week than you have overall then I understand trying to get something to even the playing field. It’s still shitty and you deserve the ban, but I understand it.
Single player though? Games literally have a difficulty slider, crank it to easy and wander around doing your thing. If you need to install cheat software for a single player game, just unplug and go outside for a while.
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@arkhaan7066 I'd have to disagree with your take on single player games, finding what makes a game tick and developing a cheat for it is fun (after beating it of course), and sometimes the game mechanics suck and the story is good, so you want to finish it, and sometimes games just want to waste your time farming stuff
Those are my usual scenarios
Fun fact, the real addicts are the ones spending hours and hours grinding for ingame pixels, while cheaters party it out and have real fun at the cost of these losers
Using spellcheck is cheating too.
*their
Back in 2007, my friend and I played MLB The Show 07, and there were a bunch of cheaters using delay switches to lag the game to throw off timing and defense. So we pitched in and bought one ourselves. He'd use it on me, and we played a crap load. Then, I used it on him extensively. Got to a point when ever someone started to cheat with this, it was like we had a 2nd muscle memory that would kick in. We never used the cheat except to practice ourselves. It was hilarious to get all the rage quit messages from these scumbags because they were using high-profile teams like Yankees or Red Sox, and we still beat their asses with Oakland A's. Good times
3:18 wow, get on with it
You only care about the amount he talks about this one? Get over yourself
@@nicememes7570 no, that was the point I realised he was filling time with waffle. Get over yourself?? What
@@damedusa5107 dog he was talking for like 20 seconds omg such a time waster ?????? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 okay buddy
@@damedusa5107 make your own videos?
@@nicememes7570 now you are affected by my comment as much as I was by his waffle. So??…….
Correction falcon on the "cheaters dont learn". you have two basic types of cheaters BOTH of which can be "taught" to leave a game alone and it really comes down to time/money invested per return. So for your cheaters that are after profit(botting, duping etc) they need to be undetected for a certain period of time before being banned before it becomes unprofitable. that is going to vary depending on how "valuable" that bot time is, cost of the game(if any), amount of copies that can be run on one system, etc. For the other type the "doing it for fun" its more of a "how much of a hassle is it" in both cases making a new account/buying one every say 6 months..well thats a lot of time to "enjoy" or "profit" from the cheat so they are probably doing it again. 3 months? you actually get a reasonable falloff in people that will "reinvest" into cheating into the game, 1 week? they are gone if you are consistently banning them in days or weeks. its too much hassle for MOST to cheat at that game.
the reason cheating is so prolific is A almost no one bans quickly, and B even if they DO ...its f2p or absurdly cheap to do it again. hence why they are always infested with cheaters.
I cant imagine spending money on a game and then getting banned from playing it because i just dont want to put in the work to get good. 🙃
Most of the time cheater account will last weeks or months and they will just buy a stolen account from shady Russian websites for like 5 dollars. Cheaters usually want to have fun, not treat videogames like a full time job like you 😂
@@lukasz4282 You completely missed her point.. "put in the work" does not mean "full time job ... 😂"
@@sixten8493 the only way to get better at a videogame is to waste countless hours on it. You cant word your way around it
Furthermore, I can't imagine getting banned after buying the game, just to end up buying the game again just to keep cheating, and eventually banned again, falling into a endless cycle of me spending money for cheat.....way a second?....did I just figure out the best anti-cheat system? Bankrupting cheaters? jaja
@@aborda0987 cheaters dont buy the game over again. they buy bulk stolen accounts for literal pennies with the games they want to cheat on. As cheap as 1 dollar for an account that will last up to a week in call of duty
There were 2 cheaters in a cod 4 server back in the day, and eventually, they crossed paths. They accused each other of cheating in chat, and we all just slowly left after they outed themselves. Was the weirdest shit ever that I'll never forget.
#19 is literally the best one. EVERY game should have something like this available.
Re-release it under different names every 2 weeks. lol
There is a certain kind of content creator that believes - truly and deeply, in their heart of hearts - that if they are not talking CONSTANTLY through literally every second of their video, they're somehow doing it wrong. It's almost impressive. Almost.
So many great ideas, and I think maybe the ultimate solution is to do multiple of these but in a cycle, and you keep adding more methods so cheaters trying to circumvent the anti-cheat will probably find it easier to just play the game.
Can’t believe Valkyrie profile 2 made this list lol such a niche game but my fave game of all time. So happy to see it get some attention
I'm currently developing a browser based multiplayer warfare game. Cheaters simply have their stats reduced over time without telling them. I also allow players to set a minimum opponent experience so even if the cheater notices, and even if they roll a new account, they won't be able to bother well-established players.
While these methods might not be the most effective, they are great for morale for players. Hearing about bans but still seeing hackers feels like nothing is happening. But when you get to see hackers get executed (in game) or humiliated or stuck with other hackers, it warms my soul
I've botted in WoW when grinding for certain mats got insane. It didn't last long before I gave it up but I was so tired of killing the same things over and over. It was so long ago, I don't even remember which expansion.
I like the one where they did a hardware ban... meaning the particular machine is banned instead of the account...
I'd love a deep dive into the psychology of cheating
Am I the only one that mouths falcons exit because we've heard it so many times?😂 lol good work as always guys love the content!
Another clever way to combat cheaters:
A lot of games nowadays let you alt-tab without difficulty. Why not set it so the game checks for known cheats during the startup--during black screen--check web history, takes a screenshot and sends to the devs for evaluating, and if found guilty, **hardware ban**.
Permanent ban is great, however, hardware ban is better. Also propose gaming devs worldwide unite on this. PLayer gets hardware ban from one gaming company, it's mirrored across them all. Name and shame them too.
I remember using so many cheats during the Campaign of gta san andreas on xbox that somehow my game got permanently broken. NPCs would do bizarre, unhinged stuff during cutscenes like shooting each other (resulting in a immediate game over) or turning invisible or they wouldnt show up at all which resulted in weirldy hilarious mission cutscenes. I couldnt fix it or progress past certain missions anymore and my game was damaged forever
I love that you either didn't know or couldn't think of a rare pokemon and just said rats. I imagine some Pokemon Go players finding something like Groudon and one dude in the friend group just seeing a photo-realistic rat. Everyone is excited and he's like, aww man, I just got rats...
Aw, rats!
One of the best things about half of these clever punishments, is that it could possibly lead to cheaters getting bored with the game. If you ban someone they can just make a new account and get right back into it. But if you do something that just makes the game unfun, if they don't quite realize that they were caught cheating and are thus being punished, they are likely to just give up playing entirely because the game just isn't fun.
5:16 unless they have god mode..which apparently rockstar doesnt feel like doing anything about the cheaters anymore
Finally... you actually mention World of WarCraft in a video...
This reminds me, I got banned from a server back in Bad Company 2 because people didn't know that you could get on top of the windmills on the Heavy Metal map, so they thought my 30-0 KD was cheating.
Not everyone you think is cheating, is cheating. 😁
I still remember back on 360 using Modio and a save file editing tool after I finished a game to buff various stats, skills, abilities, etc., and get more joy out of it. Never used it in PVP but helped a lot of people in co-op on Dark Souls, DS2, and other games