When Chess Cheaters Get Caught

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  • Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
  • Chess cheaters have been an ongoing issue for a while, so in this video we'll be showing moments where these chess cheaters get caught during the act.
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    Note: Richard Rapport in thumbnail is not a cheater, just needed a thumbnail that was over the board
    (Sorry in advance)
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  • @drazenano409
    @drazenano409 Рік тому +11739

    imagine being so evil that you decide to cheat on a charity event

    • @godoftrash5535
      @godoftrash5535 Рік тому +743

      bro is the type of guy to be soo evil to kick a woman in the balls

    • @rafikislam589
      @rafikislam589 Рік тому

      @@godoftrash5535 which drug are you on to think women have balls °__°

    • @Total1
      @Total1 Рік тому +426

      especially as a billionaire

    • @aighty7216
      @aighty7216 Рік тому +118

      Type of guy to accuse someone of cheating for a clickbait thumbnail

    • @acutechicken5798
      @acutechicken5798 Рік тому

      ​@@harshmehta143it is rare, but it does exist occasionally

  • @d2r3krs33
    @d2r3krs33 Рік тому +5051

    A billionaire that had the compulsion to cheat in a casual chess game tells a lot about his character

    • @cariboubearmalachy1174
      @cariboubearmalachy1174 Рік тому +418

      Tells a lot about billionaires.

    • @shindoxxx
      @shindoxxx Рік тому

      @@cariboubearmalachy1174 I know most rich people like to cheat and always gain unfair advantage in life using their money, but this was so obvious it didn't even make sense.

    • @greatclutzz8763
      @greatclutzz8763 Рік тому +385

      in a charity event too 😭

    • @Turnpost2552
      @Turnpost2552 Рік тому +40

      Moral of the story Chess players dont get laid. So why is he cheating?

    • @thomasgrabowski2202
      @thomasgrabowski2202 Рік тому +54

      he's a cheater in general. !!!! Nobody loves a cheater!

  • @TuxedoMedia
    @TuxedoMedia 8 місяців тому +1926

    I remember watching the Magnus game live. You could see his mindset change after he notices they take about 5 seconds to move on obvious and complex moves. At that point he's not looking for a winning advantage but a time advantage.
    Truly amazing.

    • @TheMusicLauncher
      @TheMusicLauncher 8 місяців тому +217

      The cheater forgot that his software learned form Magnus xD

    • @Cumshotdaddyfuckgaming
      @Cumshotdaddyfuckgaming 5 місяців тому

      Hello my um

    • @KakashiHatakeTheCopyNinja1
      @KakashiHatakeTheCopyNinja1 4 місяці тому +23

      ​@@TheMusicLauncher Magnus GOAT showing levels.🗿

    • @bandido1244
      @bandido1244 4 місяці тому +7

      Magnus sabe que la máquina si la atacas no intercambia piezas a menos que este acorralado

    • @thebig12conference73
      @thebig12conference73 4 місяці тому +16

      And I think he surrendered and the cheater was jewish

  • @raulramirez449
    @raulramirez449 Рік тому +1960

    The audience: "But Magnus you're in danger, cheater has a chess engine."
    Magnus with his integrated chess AI in his brain: "I'm not in danger, I'm the danger."
    Magnus Plays at the same frikin' level and wins on time 🤯

    • @fananime6495
      @fananime6495 11 місяців тому +33

      engines tries to kill you slowely by taking all your advantages bcs they know they can win a game without there strongest pieces
      that is way in most of the time the engines would trade pieces before killing you
      and that is way engines are better than magnus

    • @jay5411
      @jay5411 11 місяців тому +21

      @@fananime6495 still loss lol

    • @fananime6495
      @fananime6495 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jay5411 what???!

    • @mrsillytacos
      @mrsillytacos 10 місяців тому +15

      ​@Fan Anime if you've seen, magnus actually played higher rated games than Stockfish before, sometimes getting a 3900 estimate.

    • @Tearsofaclown01
      @Tearsofaclown01 5 місяців тому

      No he doesn’t, AI beats him. Stop it m.ua-cam.com/play/PLRgWUx3d-JMwGByKRg0GY2zXN_jz6RzeL.html

  • @davidnguyen4353
    @davidnguyen4353 Рік тому +6693

    magnus carlsen is so amazing. I'm not surprised the world chess champion defended himself well against someone using stock fish

    • @CALXB4YOU
      @CALXB4YOU Рік тому +52

      damn right.

    • @barxmorOnYT
      @barxmorOnYT Рік тому +210

      Bro was using stockfish lowest depth 💀💀

    • @Mega_The_Friendly_Shark
      @Mega_The_Friendly_Shark Рік тому +123

      @@barxmorOnYT stockfish lowest depth is the same as martin

    • @MegaUnwetter
      @MegaUnwetter Рік тому +74

      @@Mega_The_Friendly_Shark What makes you think that? stockfish lowes depth still uses its openings Database meaning Stockfish would still play the first 5-15 moves perfectly martin wouldn't

    • @MegaUnwetter
      @MegaUnwetter Рік тому +37

      @@Mega_The_Friendly_Shark I set stockfish to search depth 1 in arena and didn't have a chance . I'm a 1200 elo player. martin is a joke against this.

  • @BauxB
    @BauxB Рік тому +3008

    Everyone talking bout magnus, but no one talking bout Anand taking the game into the next level by letting him win to expose him 😂

    • @leonardsmith9870
      @leonardsmith9870 Рік тому +72

      You're over thinking it. When interviewed, Vishy said he was just playing what he thought were the best moves and didn't think much of it and that his opponent played well.

    • @hermesthegreek5247
      @hermesthegreek5247 Рік тому +502

      @@leonardsmith9870 You're underthinking it. He knew he was cheating, everyone knew he was cheating, but there's no reason to yell it out loud like a child. He just exposed him, gave a quick friendly words and moved on.

    • @hermesthegreek5247
      @hermesthegreek5247 Рік тому +231

      @@leonardsmith9870 Again, you're too naive if you believe in an adults' words as given. We always speak around the table. There's no reason to make a billionaire hate him, so why would he say "Yeah he's a cheater"?

    • @AXL6657
      @AXL6657 Рік тому +41

      now this in the comment section is a type of irl chess i would like to read

    • @leonardsmith9870
      @leonardsmith9870 Рік тому +13

      @@hermesthegreek5247 The irony of you putting words in Vishy's mouth.....

  • @demilung
    @demilung 11 місяців тому +267

    A billionaire cheating on a charity chess event, that's some comic book stuff

    • @esmokems
      @esmokems 3 місяці тому +5

      Yeah but I'm sure he was entirely ethical to become a billionaire. Tony Farce.

    • @jingyu97
      @jingyu97 10 днів тому +1

      Entrepreneur getting rich through charity is common occurrence.

  • @rama4913
    @rama4913 Рік тому +548

    It's not the fact that he cheated, but what's really mind-boggling is that he probably thought he would get away with it. This makes me question a couple of things about this fella.

    • @bobbyhines8504
      @bobbyhines8504 Рік тому +4

      that's not cheating .. divulging how good you are.
      if a hooper goes to a park and he plays D1 or Overseas basketball and he says let's play 1on1 for 100$ but doesn't tell you he's really good and you accept that's on YOU!
      These chest players ARE crying cheating playing a game against what they thought are lesser competition.
      That's unfair for YOU as a GM or higher ranked player to accept the game for $250 if you know it's easy money. What does that say about your morals and mindset?

    • @das6109
      @das6109 11 місяців тому +34

      @@bobbyhines8504 If a 900 rated guy asks to play a Chess GM for $250 on Twitch, he's either a cheater, or he considers it a fun way of donating to someone he likes. Obviously he knows he won't win normally, and obviously the GM knows the 900 elo guy knows that. There's no lack of morals here for the GM accepting this. Their fan wanted to play them and wants to donate to them, great. It's not like this is some contract either, the user could just not pay when they lose if they don't have the kind of cash they're offering to throw around. These 'donations with extra steps' are pretty obvious. It's the same thing when someone asks a player to do a 'challenge' like 'I'll gift you 10 subs if you get a pawn checkmate'. The player isn't secretly hoping you are unable to do that so they don't have to pay, they just want to see you attempt this challenge and hopefully succeed.
      Your basketball analogy doesn't make much sense btw. If it was like a top ten player using a smurf account rated 900 that might make some sense. A better analogy for what happened here would be saying we're gonna do 100 free throws and see who gets more, and then rolling out a robot that never misses to make the shots. It's not a better player hiding their strength, it's a player taking a car to a track meet.

    • @soakedbearrd
      @soakedbearrd 9 місяців тому +3

      @@bobbyhines8504you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The guy is rated 400 are you serious?

    • @alisonk2474
      @alisonk2474 9 місяців тому

      @@bobbyhines8504you clearly do not know what ur talking about. If he was good enough to beat vishy anand he would be playing top level. People would know who he is. But he was cheating. Just because ur not smart enough to see that doesn’t mean we can’t. You clearly don’t play chess because your ignorance is astounding

    • @curious_banda
      @curious_banda 9 місяців тому

      ​@@soakedbearrdhe is talking about the first clip

  • @criticalstan
    @criticalstan Рік тому +638

    his apology *at the end*
    its probably something like this
    "I'm sorry you found out that i cheated... i thought i hid it very well"

    • @Randomperson-nl4hw
      @Randomperson-nl4hw Рік тому +7

      I think it needs to be a bit more generic ( just saying )

    • @Danso_3000
      @Danso_3000 Рік тому +52

      What he actually said was more along the lines of "Of course I was cheating. The guy is a grand master, surely no one ACTUALLY thought I could beat him? What idiots. I'm sorry everyone got upset, but it's just chess. (A silly little board game). Who cares?"

    • @dragonmage372
      @dragonmage372 Рік тому +2

      I thought for sure he would admit it right after the game ended and be good humored about it. Surprised and disappointed that he didn't.

    • @sonhonguyenthai1075
      @sonhonguyenthai1075 Рік тому +25

      If it’s a silly little board game then why bother cheating, scared of people hurting your little pride huh 😂

    • @macrez_ryan
      @macrez_ryan Рік тому +20

      ​​@@Danso_3000 bruh if its a silly little game then just play legitimately? 😂 its on charity event too

  • @Vannox10
    @Vannox10 Рік тому +1350

    Even stockfish was suprised that the ones using him lost to the goat

    • @Shionsti
      @Shionsti Рік тому +26

      Because of time, without time stockfish wouldn't have won

    • @danielaburger9380
      @danielaburger9380 Рік тому +5

      Because of time You see engines have limited Power when they have limited time

    • @shaansingh6048
      @shaansingh6048 Рік тому +42

      @@danielaburger9380 same with humans, they have to do the same calculations lmao

    • @cevdetustun539
      @cevdetustun539 Рік тому +46

      @@shaansingh6048 under the same amount of time stockfish would crush anybody. The real problem is the person who is cheating taking unnecessary time to follow a copied game against stockfish on another window and make the moves which makes him lose time in the end.

    • @shaansingh6048
      @shaansingh6048 Рік тому

      @@cevdetustun539 not necessarily, under time crunch humans can beat stockfish because stockfish takes time taking absolutely everything into account whereas humans only focus on what seems important to them

  • @karanpunjabi1861
    @karanpunjabi1861 Рік тому +294

    Anand letting him win is so bold move... Because what kamath would done was just loose on time... But vishy predicted the consequences of that ❤

    • @NerAEus96
      @NerAEus96 Рік тому +37

      I would call that "outplaying the opponent". He didn't aim to win on the checkerboard, he aimed for a IRL checkmate.
      It's not about winning, it's about sending a message.

    • @aurorasdawn4681
      @aurorasdawn4681 9 місяців тому +1

      @@NerAEus96 Why would it have been bad for him to win that game though? Wouldn't Kamath have been exposed anyways - perhaps even more conclusively?

    • @kashishaggarwal2217
      @kashishaggarwal2217 9 місяців тому +17

      ​@@aurorasdawn4681most probably no. As Anand winning against him wouldnt have made headlines like it did now

  • @AidsPizza
    @AidsPizza Рік тому +71

    You cheat by copying a robot,
    I Cheat by eating the chess pieces when you aren't looking
    We are not the same.

  • @EthanWorks_
    @EthanWorks_ Рік тому +480

    Magnus beating stock fish was actually sick. I’m not too surprised, but it’s still super impressive

    • @zada4a
      @zada4a Рік тому +65

      He did not beat stockfish, he beat the guy using stockfish on time. What are you on

    • @davidAnonsen
      @davidAnonsen Рік тому +3

      Found myself watching chess videos whilst not knowjng anything about it. What is stock fish?

    • @Infinitesimally_Big
      @Infinitesimally_Big Рік тому +3

      ​@@davidAnonsen Chess Engine

    • @das6109
      @das6109 11 місяців тому +24

      @@davidAnonsen A chess engine is a computer program that is really good at calculating moves and continuations, far far better than any human can. The only real way to beat a chess engine is in shorter time controls. If you're really good you can make accurate moves quickly, where the cheater has to continuously feed those moves back into the engine and then respond a couple seconds later when the analysis is done.

    • @anomaly3215
      @anomaly3215 11 місяців тому +3

      @@das6109 nah, you can just use a chrome extension to automatically show the best moves on screen in real time instantly, so people likely use that in faster games

  • @defectumdefectum9642
    @defectumdefectum9642 Рік тому +215

    It’s honestly depressing that people would cheat. Can’t imagine the thought of them getting banned too many times and getting frustrated that they keep getting caught but lord knows NO one can hide from the fair play team.

    • @bluegiant13
      @bluegiant13 Рік тому +9

      It is completely pointless. It isn't even cheating it is simply stockfish vs human. And the other person using stockfish is merely its slave moving the pieces that stockfish wants you to move. There is no dignity, honour or pride in winning like that.

    • @glauberbispo8922
      @glauberbispo8922 Рік тому +1

      ​@@bluegiant13 the pleasure is beat ur opponent and see he rage, not win :p
      by the way, i dont use stockfish, I like to beat mu opponents in a fair game

    • @anomaly3215
      @anomaly3215 11 місяців тому

      @@bluegiant13 nah completely slaughtering high level opponents and seeing them rage has lots of honor 😆try again kiddo

    • @finlaytemple1744
      @finlaytemple1744 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@anomaly3215what's your problem?

    • @superyeah4ever2
      @superyeah4ever2 9 місяців тому +1

      @@anomaly3215 define honor.

  • @jahsehdwayne9525
    @jahsehdwayne9525 Рік тому +92

    Now, imagine Stockfish using Magnus.

  • @atma2037
    @atma2037 Рік тому +35

    Imagine Rapport just scrolling through UA-cam and sees the thumbnail

  • @maulenjustine3300
    @maulenjustine3300 Рік тому +929

    Levi sips tea while beating cheaters for content 💀

    • @harry69007
      @harry69007 Рік тому +37

      Levy*

    • @Eye_Is
      @Eye_Is Рік тому +5

      hes not even an GM

    • @thecaptain10
      @thecaptain10 Рік тому +44

      @@Eye_Is you should learn more about vowels and consonants
      ...
      just kidding

    • @Snaproductions
      @Snaproductions Рік тому

      @@Eye_Ishe is one…… look it up

    • @aquaphoenix200
      @aquaphoenix200 Рік тому +22

      ​@@Eye_Is being a GM or IM doesn't matter coz everyone using the same bot to cheat its not like if you are low rated the cheaters will use low rated bots

  • @tomas-wi8dy
    @tomas-wi8dy Рік тому +906

    change the thumbnail, Richard Rapport never cheat

    • @t.alexander4764
      @t.alexander4764 Рік тому +14

      more than 100 likes and zero comments? il fix that

    • @guardianoflight1442
      @guardianoflight1442 Рік тому +13

      more than 140 likes and only 1 comment? I'll also fix that

    • @ajaygocher4685
      @ajaygocher4685 Рік тому +7

      more than 200 likes and only 2 comments? I'll also fix that

    • @pedrodaffunchio675
      @pedrodaffunchio675 Рік тому +22

      Report this channel, this is just wrong

    • @smitha21is
      @smitha21is Рік тому

      @@pedrodaffunchio675 no its not

  • @joshm689
    @joshm689 Рік тому +18

    I know absolutely nothing about chess but it's 2am and it's time for me to watch the most random stuff that UA-cam throws my way

  • @jondoe5590
    @jondoe5590 10 місяців тому +76

    You could tell by Vishy's demeanor, he caught on early that Nikhil was cheating. I think he didn't protest because he still wanted to fight, or he didn't want to hurt the charity event's ability to raise funds.

  • @arjav7
    @arjav7 Рік тому +14

    Is click Bait cheating

  • @RigMaster_
    @RigMaster_ Рік тому +15

    Really bad idea to put Rapport in the thumbnail. Very deceptive because I thought it would be showing Rapport being caught cheating.

  • @Requiredfields2
    @Requiredfields2 Рік тому +51

    Richard Rapport in the thumbnail has never been accused of cheating which, ironically, makes you a cheater for using his image.

    • @bulgslel
      @bulgslel 3 місяці тому +2

      That's not cheating. That's clickbait.

    • @TheStrings-83639
      @TheStrings-83639 11 днів тому +1

      Which is basically cheating the UA-cam algorithm.

  • @VizualDK
    @VizualDK Рік тому +44

    Magnus: makes a one-move threat
    this guy: MAGNUS MAKES A DEADLY ATTACK

  • @Incepter.
    @Incepter. Рік тому +80

    Nikhil is very bad at trying to hide the fact that he is cheating against Vishy and the commentators didn't even notice like what the heck

    • @CALXB4YOU
      @CALXB4YOU Рік тому +3

      i still dont understand how he knows he cheating im dumb

    • @dread7252
      @dread7252 Рік тому +27

      @@CALXB4YOU He knows because a 400 rated player does not beat a super GM.

    • @teslainvestah5003
      @teslainvestah5003 Рік тому +17

      It's a pretty spicy conclusion to come to, and they shouldn't do it without a careful investigation. Maybe they had their suspicions but they shouldn't share them as commentators. If they did, they would be wrong sometimes and squash innocent people's reputations very publicly for nothing. If there was even a chance of that happening, the cure would be worse than the disease.

    • @SomethingSomethingComplete
      @SomethingSomethingComplete Рік тому +2

      @@CALXB4YOU I don't know if you play any games, but if you do; take a professional player from that game, and put them up against someone who has never played the game before. If that new player wins... it kinda speaks for itself(unless it's poker or some other luck-based game. Still unlikely though).
      A grandmaster in chess vs someone 400 rated is like putting Mike Tyson vs a child in a boxing match, we know Tyson wins, but if that kid suddenly shows up in a tank, we're 100% certain he is not following the rules.

    • @FS4SS
      @FS4SS Рік тому +9

      @@teslainvestah5003 Well let's put it into perspective. Let's start by assuming that Nikhil is actually a 400 rating strength player and isn't a Super GM in disguise. Then let's consider the possibility that he just had a very good game. That should be possible for a 400 rated player to have a very good game and beat a super GM, right?
      The short answer is no, that is not possible. It's hard to explain why if you're not an experienced chess player, but one way might be to talk about what the rating number actually means. A difference of 400 rating strength is one of the pillars that the ELO system is based on - theoretically, a player will *always* lose to someone playing at an elo strength that is 400 points higher. 100% chance to lose - that is a defining characteristic of the ELO system.
      In practice, rating doesn't always correlate to strength - some days an 800 rated player will play like a 1000; other days, a 600. As humans, we vary greatly day to day.
      That being said, Vishy is showing a rating of 2434 (he must hardly play on that account because he should easily be over 3000, as a recent world champion). So let's use that 2400 number. Nikhil would have a 0% win chance, against an 800 rated player who would have a 0% win chance, against a 1200 rated player who would have a 0% win chance, against a 1600 rated player who would have a 0% win chance, against a 2000 rated player who would have a 0% win chance, against Vishy Anand.
      So no, Nikhil cheated. The best game that Nikhil could ever comprehend playing in his best possible day wouldn't let him win against someone who has 1/3rd of Vishy's strength.

  • @bermuda333
    @bermuda333 Рік тому +122

    its so absurd how somebody can cheat against one of the greatest players in the world live and expect people not to notice? like even without the whole "looking to the side" thing, I just looked at the game and he had 98.6% accuracy compared to vishy's 92%, which is absurd in itself.
    it seems to me like people who cheat on chess just do not comprehend basic logical reasoning skills

    • @bobbyhines8504
      @bobbyhines8504 Рік тому +1

      that's not cheating .. divulging how good you are.
      if a hooper goes to a park and he plays D1 or Overseas basketball and he says let's play 1on1 for 100$ but doesn't tell you he's really good and you accept that's on YOU!
      These chest players ARE crying cheating playing a game against what they thought are lesser competition.
      That's unfair for YOU as a GM or higher ranked player to accept the game for $250 if you know it's easy money. What does that say about your morals and mindset?

    • @bleeem
      @bleeem 9 місяців тому

      @@bobbyhines8504 if you are less skilled than someone and you challenge them everything that happens after its on you, you brought that to yourself, and if you wanted to bet against a better player thats on you also.

    • @curious_banda
      @curious_banda 9 місяців тому

      ​​@@bobbyhines8504don't spam same thing. This is about the last game. Vishy probably didn't earn anything.

    • @xaf15001
      @xaf15001 8 місяців тому

      ​@@bobbyhines8504The problem is how the fuck is an unknown player not just win, but be getting consistently better scores than a world renowned grandmaster. Chess isn't hoops. There's stockfish, but it's first and foremost a multiplayer game. And you can't be better if you just beat weaker players either. So it's really improbable for this guy to be so good and stay so hidden.
      Also, you need to put in effort into something to be good at it. Even if he's a billionaire, doesn't mean he has 200 IQ, nor does being a billionaire or being a genius means you'll be good at chess. You can't solve your problems with just money Frankie, you need to grow out of your fantasy.

    • @mikegordon697
      @mikegordon697 8 місяців тому +1

      what does mean acuuracy? how it calculated?

  • @betohax
    @betohax Рік тому +27

    4:30
    No stockfish would've won just he ran out of time, human error. Also it's possible Aleksander didn't always do best move just to not raise suspicion.

    • @animeworld1035
      @animeworld1035 28 днів тому

      Who told him to run out of time it's his fault also he was with the world champions himself he is the world champions for a reason of course he will give a good fight to the most advanced robot of chess they both have equal knowledge of cheese but robots have more knowledge and think in a nanosecond still it's impressive that the world champions can give blow to blow with the world unbeatable robot

  • @occamsrazor9183
    @occamsrazor9183 Рік тому +18

    I know who Magnus is from watching an awesome documentary of him a long time ago, and chess is one of my favorite games. I really didn't know that it was even possible to cheat at chess. I have always thought that where ever correct you decide to move a piece is where you want it, I don't understand...

    • @das6109
      @das6109 11 місяців тому +5

      Basically computer programs called 'engines' can analyze a tremendous depth of positions with very efficient branching (knowing what move to check next and which to discard) now. They have long since surpassed human analysis even by the top players. Anyone can beat the strongest super GMs simply checking what move to play from an engine. Of course an amateur has to check with the engine every time, as even missing a single tactic may put the cheater at enough of a disadvantage that the gm can beat them despite the engine's stronger play. This is why when players suspect engine play they often play closed defensive positions that force a longer game. Since the gm can play great moves almost immediately, and the cheater must reference the engine each move to gain advantage, it's possible to win vs the cheater in lower time formats like blitz. That's how Magnus won in this video.

    • @occamsrazor9183
      @occamsrazor9183 11 місяців тому

      @@das6109 Thank you for all this information, but if you and I set up a chess board, and we played by choosing whichever positions either of us chooses to place our pieces during a game, I am still not understand that a move you make, or a move I make can be defined as (not allowed)...

    • @BaneHydra
      @BaneHydra 10 місяців тому +2

      @@occamsrazor9183 Let's say you and I set up a chess board and we play against each other. But each time it is my turn, I ask my buddy Magnus Carlsen what the best move is and I just play whatever move he tells me. That wouldn't be fair, would it?
      It's not the moves that's not allowed, it's asking for help. Cheaters ask the chess engine for help and just play whatever move it suggests.

  • @MarceloSiqueiraLima_CdC
    @MarceloSiqueiraLima_CdC Рік тому +122

    It's obvious that Stockfish is capable of defeating Magnus. The cheater lost in time because he doesn't move the pieces instantly like a software does.

    • @GeorgeDCowley
      @GeorgeDCowley Рік тому +17

      And probably has to input both their moves into the engine.

    • @outkast187
      @outkast187 Рік тому +12

      I can run the 100yrd dash like every record breaking olympian. But i just dont do it as fast so they win.

    • @Berek71182
      @Berek71182 Рік тому +2

      And that's why some GM consider Classical Chess (on PC) to be DEAD. On Blitz and Rapid a GM can at least stall against a cheater to win on time.

    • @momoshikioot9177
      @momoshikioot9177 Рік тому +7

      @@outkast187 Lol that's not the same analogy at all. Chess AI has been shown to be better than any human alive. That's just the nature of AI, they can see moves many steps ahead in real-time. The cheater lost because he wastes time inputting the chess moves and probably has the basic engine that takes longer to compute moves. Stockfish is still superior.

    • @Thesamurai1999
      @Thesamurai1999 Рік тому +3

      Magnus isn’t capable of moving instantly either, he has to think so I find it quite impressive.

  • @GreyGhost.
    @GreyGhost. Рік тому +36

    This thumbnail is APPALLING !!! ........ the inference is easily misinterpreted.

  • @quetzalcoatlus6639
    @quetzalcoatlus6639 9 місяців тому +3

    The first player is not a cheater. This is JC Denton. He just added a new augmentation and now he calculates a million moves ahead

  • @akshpatel40
    @akshpatel40 17 днів тому +1

    In a podcast he said , he didn’t know anything about chess , how big chess is and how strong a grandmaster can be , and of course how dull it is to cheat against a grandmaster …….his friend showed him this engine trick and day ago and he thought it won’t be a big deal to cheat….

  • @ShunOkamotoMusic
    @ShunOkamotoMusic Рік тому +44

    Phew I thought Rapport was some cheater with that thumbnail

    • @desertfox20
      @desertfox20 Рік тому +5

      They should change the thumbnail at once

    • @JMZReview
      @JMZReview Рік тому +1

      Look at description

  • @wandering_trading
    @wandering_trading Рік тому +128

    remove that thumbnail, Rapport didn’t cheat

  • @dasmooze
    @dasmooze Рік тому +7

    0:13 challenged to a "1v1" in chess...so many things i wanna say about how dumb that sentence is.

  • @MrTheDif
    @MrTheDif Рік тому +4

    The ever brilliant tactician Anand resigned in order to expose him. It was the best move.

  • @machintruc9457
    @machintruc9457 Рік тому +55

    - cheater : computers are beating world champions for 26 years, and they’ve been improving each year. I’m sure to defeat you, magnus !
    - magnus : please try…

    • @jiranchhetri8863
      @jiranchhetri8863 Рік тому +3

      yea when it tries magnus looses ☠☠

    • @machintruc9457
      @machintruc9457 Рік тому +1

      @@jiranchhetri8863 in a classic game with no time limit and no noob executing orders, yes of course

    • @jiranchhetri8863
      @jiranchhetri8863 Рік тому

      @@machintruc9457 even in like fucking rapid it better ☠, even in bullet (MOST CASES)

    • @machintruc9457
      @machintruc9457 Рік тому +2

      @@jiranchhetri8863 that’s why I said « and noob executing orders », I meant the cheater was too slow to enter inputs, read outputs, and obey the computer in time (or rather : magnus was too accurate and too fast, so the cheater couldn’t follow)

    • @zacharyhunt3939
      @zacharyhunt3939 Рік тому +3

      @@jiranchhetri8863 true but that’s just how it was made, magnus wasn’t born for the sole purpose of playing chess lol, magnus could beat the ai if they just swapped to checkers, it doesn’t have any information on that game

  • @sherrymahomes
    @sherrymahomes Рік тому +48

    Wow magnus carlson was actually able to beat a cheater and I got here 15 minutes after this was made

    • @drown4486
      @drown4486 Рік тому +5

      I feel like this should be rephrased to magnus went head to head with the best chess ai

    • @enxitesi1623
      @enxitesi1623 Рік тому

      ​@VeryLogicalGuy ?

    • @melzz
      @melzz Рік тому +2

      @VeryLogicalGuy well that's still an achievement isn't it?

    • @lewarzebari2894
      @lewarzebari2894 Рік тому

      That’s nonsense, that dumbass cheater was using very depth calculations which ofc would take so much time, if he used something like 18 at opening and midgame, and something 10, even if you give magnus days for each move he would still lose against engine

    • @malsawmzela609
      @malsawmzela609 Рік тому

      @@melzz no lol. If gm's played carefully, knowing they are up against an engine and not some 900 elo snubs. Then they beat low depth engines.

  • @mboiko
    @mboiko Рік тому +4

    @ 5:14 you can also literally see what appears to be the reflection of a monitor flickering on the far left wall. It's way too small to be a TV or monitor hanging on the wall. So it very well could be a reflection of a monitor he was looking at ...

  • @mycookie011
    @mycookie011 9 місяців тому +8

    Idk why but i love watching chess videos with this magnus guy. Seems like he is a legend at beating the impossible games most of the time. My 11yr old is in a chess club at school and he easily beats me. I wouldnt be able to understand how a average player or person could even come close to beating these guys lol. Even that engine stood no chance vs magnus 😂

  • @chesscomsupport8689
    @chesscomsupport8689 Рік тому +54

    Poor Richard Rapport

  • @rakki2798
    @rakki2798 Рік тому +20

    If you dig deep, in the same event that Vishy 'lost' to the billionaire, which was a simul, he also faced two others who used engines. The bossman did win those games apart from 3 other games

  • @user-rm3nk4cq4s
    @user-rm3nk4cq4s Рік тому +12

    Rapport isn’t a cheater, remove the thumbnail!

  • @pyboy2434
    @pyboy2434 8 місяців тому +1

    Its better to lose than to cheat against any world champion

  • @CALXB4YOU
    @CALXB4YOU Рік тому +10

    The facts that they know how he is cheating and me trying to focus on how he is cheating

  • @NotQuiteFirst
    @NotQuiteFirst Рік тому +14

    Dislike video for shamefully accusing Rapport of cheating for a clickbait thumbnail

  • @riesenhobbit3958
    @riesenhobbit3958 Рік тому +4

    Funny thing is, when a grandmaster reports stuff like this, the opponent gets banned right away. If it happens to a low rated player like me, they dont even take a look at it. i cant even tell how many points i lost against 1700 players with an accuracy of 95-98%. thats ridiculous

  • @ThatKingAlex
    @ThatKingAlex Рік тому +50

    Magnus really is one of a kind. He inspires me.

  • @jjjnnn1249
    @jjjnnn1249 Рік тому +10

    As a big Magnus fan i must say that Stocfish is actually able to destroy Carlsen, in the end of the day its one of the best chess computers.. Thing is, cheater didnt have enough time to put his moves into engine.. Thats why Carlsen will be always better than any of them. Even if they wouldve time, Magnus's draw changes are pretty high.. 🎉

  • @pratham_pai
    @pratham_pai Рік тому +15

    6:45 As a Konkani myself, I can confirm I feel disgusted by this act

  • @ChaoticHeretic
    @ChaoticHeretic 9 місяців тому +1

    Imagine thinking someone is cheating because they are playing good. Magnus is such a cry baby.

  • @JettWade
    @JettWade Рік тому +2

    Nikhil’s apology “sorry guys i just really needed the money”

  • @OG_CK2018
    @OG_CK2018 Рік тому +7

    I like how in the last game the commentators are like yeah this is completely normal play by a 400 rated player lol

  • @taktikz6925
    @taktikz6925 9 місяців тому +5

    Only just started playing Chess, really enjoying it. I can't for the life of me though comprehend why someone would cheat. I embrace every defeat because I feel like I am learning something. I just don't understand what satisfaction or sense of achievement cheaters would get when they win. Like I say, I can't comprehend it.

    • @Mwgsse
      @Mwgsse 9 місяців тому

      Lol how can someone even cheat in this game? What? You get free 2 moves?

    • @fabuxverchatura
      @fabuxverchatura Місяць тому

      keep it real

    • @pipootkelter3289
      @pipootkelter3289 22 дні тому

      ​@@Mwgsseusing ais like stockfish and torch

  • @lapalabrainfinita
    @lapalabrainfinita Рік тому +1

    LOVE that the cheater's picture is JC Denton and that you chose Deus Ex type music for it. If that was on purpose I send you gamer love ♥

  • @Pehnos
    @Pehnos 9 місяців тому +3

    Bro how to f*ck can you cheat in chess 💀

  • @htetmyat6496
    @htetmyat6496 Рік тому +13

    2:17 😂😂😂magnus is on the next level😂

  • @shadowgang9616
    @shadowgang9616 Рік тому +20

    chess community better be happy cause they were begging for magnus to go against stock fish and he did and won

  • @NekoVenture
    @NekoVenture Рік тому +7

    How low do you have to be to cheat during a charity event against the *world champion* as a 400 rating.
    Like.. Did he expect to get away with it?? That shit was obvious. 💀

  • @AxOwLynx00777
    @AxOwLynx00777 Рік тому +18

    Slight misconception, not even Magnus can beat Stockfish, a cheater however is human and requires a set amount of time to use the engine, which means Magnus can move nigh immediately and the cheater will simply grind down his clock. That is to say, it's literally the only way he could have won that game.

    • @yes-qw6om
      @yes-qw6om 9 місяців тому

      wrong the stockfish takes a lot of time to process because we saw how it ran out of time

    • @AxOwLynx00777
      @AxOwLynx00777 9 місяців тому +2

      @@yes-qw6om You pretty much dumbed it down, but that's exactly what I said, and technically it only takes a few seconds at a time to process upwards of dozens of variants of the move, mathematically computing the best possible outcomes from the top down. In other words, the engine can't lose, the cheater simply cannot instantly input Stockfish's commands and thus the reason they lost is because of human limitation, not computation.

  • @kerbygator
    @kerbygator Рік тому +4

    I cheated at a poker game once, and the guys I was playing against would have surely killed me if they would have caught me. I went home with over $1000 . I started with less than $100. They were all drunk and talking very loud at each other, while I was swindling them.

    • @outkast187
      @outkast187 Рік тому +3

      In reality it was your family, playing uno, and they were just sleepy.

  • @cameronmitchelo7596
    @cameronmitchelo7596 Рік тому +4

    geniune question but how tf do you cheat in chess? do you just get like a bot to play for you?

  • @1212zeek1212
    @1212zeek1212 9 місяців тому +1

    Wait, how is the first one cheating? It's digital so I'm guessing all the moves made must be legal ones. Is the idea that the person was using some kind of bot to calculate moves? Or that they lied about their chess player rating? I'm guessing bot but how do you prove it?

  • @lukemartineau490
    @lukemartineau490 Рік тому

    How do you cheat in a chess game? Is there a computer program that analyzes the board state and tells you how to move?

  • @fungameslife2460
    @fungameslife2460 Рік тому +1

    It's good that you have changed the thumbnail 👍

  • @cedrics7374
    @cedrics7374 9 місяців тому +3

    Anand smart guy as he is, takes the loss to expose the cheater, smart move 😂

  • @jaredwoods5284
    @jaredwoods5284 7 місяців тому

    None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with ME!

  • @toxiccroc5357
    @toxiccroc5357 Рік тому +1

    Nah bro you know you built different when you can be the AI in chess

  • @francisjoshuabautista-uj9rm
    @francisjoshuabautista-uj9rm Рік тому +4

    Bro still drinks water even if it's not even a tournament

  • @VI69420
    @VI69420 Рік тому +4

    2:30 I’m sorry? Ng3?

  • @RealMotivationalMadness
    @RealMotivationalMadness 10 місяців тому

    i watched 3 videos and you earned a sub

  • @MagisterVeritas
    @MagisterVeritas 9 місяців тому +1

    I don't wonder anymore how that guy got his billions

  • @RainBro-ki3ry
    @RainBro-ki3ry Рік тому +3

    "Wow they're playing so well, must be cheating!"

  • @guitarmichael
    @guitarmichael Рік тому +4

    I don't know much about chess, so can someone explain why Anand resigning helped expose the cheater. Is it just because the shock of him losing would draw more attention? Vishy a G for that regardless.

    • @classScribbler
      @classScribbler Рік тому

      A few facts:
      - The billionaire guy is actually a known cheater. His wife left him because of it some years ago
      - Anand was unhappy that the guy used his name in the media and gave the impression that they were "buddies"
      - Anand was also unhappy and his manager(his wife) distanced him from any support of the cheating
      - The guy is also a known moron who resting on the laurels of his elder brother. He is seen as a pestering presence in the company
      Also, I think he might just have resigned given the position and not thought much about it. However, once it is known that someone was cheating in a charity match, no one takes that lightly.
      Zerodha runs the largest trading platform in India. Imagine how much of order flows he is monetising.

  • @donkylefernandez4680
    @donkylefernandez4680 11 місяців тому

    that resign to flag was the smartest move in any chess match

  • @Gelo19
    @Gelo19 14 днів тому +1

    Imagine the shame of playing against a legend in your own country while cheating😂

  • @user-zf8gm8kf7d
    @user-zf8gm8kf7d Рік тому +5

    Have you no shame depicting Richard Rapport, one of the top 100 FIDE players, as a cheater in the thumbnail?

  • @mrityunjaynayak6950
    @mrityunjaynayak6950 Рік тому +3

    Bro Anand could have won but just see how briliant he is to let his opponent win

  • @BreezyVibes92
    @BreezyVibes92 Рік тому +1

    For a chess cheater, the only checkmate that matters is the one between their ego and self-respect.

  • @ManpahulSingh
    @ManpahulSingh 10 місяців тому +2

    Vishy sacrificed the game to win Nikhil's Account. I would call this the Anand Gambit.

  • @marissaxrose
    @marissaxrose Рік тому +4

    This is so satisfying, I love seeing cheaters get caught.

  • @Manbun_Carlsen
    @Manbun_Carlsen Рік тому +7

    Hans Niemann left the chat

    • @scottekoontz
      @scottekoontz Рік тому

      Magnus Carlson cried and cried, left the board. Cried more. Went on to lose to other 2700s without crying. He's growing up.

  • @TheValkyrieDev
    @TheValkyrieDev 2 дні тому

    Imagine you are a world champion chess player goes undercover and gets banned because of ‘cheating’😂

  • @mubarkqardas46
    @mubarkqardas46 11 місяців тому +1

    I cant believe magnus held an engine for 55 moves...

  • @IconicMongolianSponge
    @IconicMongolianSponge Рік тому +7

    Dude imagine having nothing better to do than cheating in a board game.

    • @hearmeout1767
      @hearmeout1767 Рік тому +1

      I agree I'm glad I stopped 😂

    • @blackjoester
      @blackjoester Рік тому +1

      @@hearmeout1767 bro what

    • @hearmeout1767
      @hearmeout1767 Рік тому +1

      @@blackjoester I used to cheat in chess all the time back when I had no life. Cheaters are extremely annoying but they will always get their karma.

    • @ElNiNjA246
      @ElNiNjA246 Рік тому +1

      ​@HearMeOut17 why do that?

    • @hearmeout1767
      @hearmeout1767 Рік тому +1

      @@ElNiNjA246 because I didn't know how the pieces moved and assumed I'd be too dumb to learn, so I instead learned how to cheat at chess. Originally I just wanted to cheat against my friend once to beat him, but then I got addicted to it cuz it made me feel like the best player in the earth.

  • @matthewmcneill5320
    @matthewmcneill5320 Рік тому +6

    not a chess fan, never watched a match before in my life (intentionally anyway) but I found this fascinating, well done!

  • @fullyilluminated
    @fullyilluminated 8 місяців тому

    So do the cheaters download a software that has a really good chess A.I to make the decisions for them? Genuinely curious.

  • @sam-psonsmith9951
    @sam-psonsmith9951 4 дні тому

    imagine your an inhumanly good chess player which actually knows every move someone could make. Just to never be able to play anyone online because people keep banning you for cheating.

  • @punimarudogaman
    @punimarudogaman Рік тому +5

    this makes us start to wonder how that cheater became millionnaire 😏

    • @lastfirst1
      @lastfirst1 Рік тому

      *Billionaire actually"🤓

  • @yolzie_gmz420
    @yolzie_gmz420 Рік тому +10

    Can't the cheater just be an old high-rated player that lost their account?

    • @drewishgaminginc.3942
      @drewishgaminginc.3942 Рік тому +10

      Some moves in chess humans just don't make....stockfish sees 17 or 18 moves ahead and gives you the best possible move, something no human can do even magnus.... that's why when they see these moves that don't make sense they get suspicious and 10 moves down the line they are confirmed....also when they use the around the same amount of time in between each move they make is a big cheater tell.... that signifies them inputting the position, reading the move, playing the move... normally about 7-10 seconds on every move means you're playing a cheater. That's also why cheaters tend to lose on time but never checkmate

    • @cannotfigureoutaname
      @cannotfigureoutaname Рік тому +3

      Anti-cheat doesn't just consist on how good someone is basing on their rating, it wouldn't even make sense as the skilled players are bound to climb rating anyway.

    • @B3an01
      @B3an01 Рік тому

      @@drewishgaminginc.3942 hear me out what if somebody had a brain on the level of 2 supercomputers and could think 17 or 18 moves ahead and he gets falsely accused of cheating

    • @drazach_7819
      @drazach_7819 4 місяці тому

      The guy's actually a retired grandmaster from Indonesia.

  • @hamzabuhh1404
    @hamzabuhh1404 3 дні тому

    I love how delusional this man is 😭 he thought stockfish couldn't beat Magnus😭

  • @muridtahmatgnas2184
    @muridtahmatgnas2184 10 днів тому

    Not only in chess, but anywhere, imagine cheating and still losing

  • @dealincat933
    @dealincat933 Рік тому +8

    Classical, go ahead and change the thumbnail your videos are great no need for clickbait

  • @NOHAN-NPT2-CR7
    @NOHAN-NPT2-CR7 Рік тому +3

    bruh in the thumbnail it shows tht richard rapport was a cheater
    imagine

  • @jblocker118
    @jblocker118 Рік тому

    Magnus is that good, even AI can't beat him, you know your just that good when a robot can't stop you

  • @rphilipsgeekery4589
    @rphilipsgeekery4589 2 місяці тому +1

    I won a chess game, I asked for my winnings ,, he said I will send you a cheque... mate

  • @cagnusmarlsen6457
    @cagnusmarlsen6457 Рік тому +4

    Lmao bruh change that thumbnail ain’t no way they did my boy Rapport like that 💀

  • @Player-df7ny
    @Player-df7ny Рік тому +8

    2:26 is Nf3, not Ng3

  • @FahadFacts.
    @FahadFacts. 3 місяці тому +2

    0:06 haha samay raina

  • @markhooijberg1493
    @markhooijberg1493 Рік тому +2

    I saw this video on my recommendeds, but why isnt the channel called Chessical, missed opportunity