@@theguywhousedtocare Had that happen to me too but on Phantom Forces on Roblox. Never played it before but I am really good at FPS games so when a level 6 is wiping the enemy team. People tend to get suspicious, it never got serious but I had the entire team accuse me of cheating because “A level 6 gamer shouldn’t be destroying the entire team”
@@theguywhousedtocare Haha thanks most were pretty mad and the hate continued on to the next couple of matches lol. But like I said it didn't get so bad where I was kicked but it was getting there haha
Wrong. The rule says if you cheat once, you get a warning. It doesn't say it's not cheating. In my opinion, it's theft by fraud and should be prosecuted. He literally stole money from the other charities.
@@adlilzafri2322 Agreed. This is totally fine IMO. You played within the rules set. In hockey you get penalties for doing certain actions. Most of the time its not worth it, however when the opposing team has a break away and is 1vgoaling it can be highly advantageous to take a penalty cause a 5v4. Instead of a free shot, They call these "good penalties." You can choose to do anything that would cause a penalty and accept the consequences that is all they did in this instance.
Nick is nice overall he knew that isn’t cheating that’s why he did that for *A good cause* that is the point!he “cheated” for a good cause not for selfish money
Exploiting a warning system isnt cheating. It's like in high school, we'd get 10 unexcused absences throughout the year before graduating would be put in jeopardy. Well, another way to look at it is that I get 10 free no-questions asked vacation days.
Camping is a valid strat in a lot of games, I think it's fun going up against campers, or having to tip toe around areas to keep an eye out for them. Fun in BF5 watching people get pinned down by someone holding a really good position on a window. I don't usually do it but I do think it's fun and makes for interesting gameplay.
Nick didn't cheat, in fact he followed the rules exactly. The rules said if you land outside the landing zone, you get a warning. All he did was go for the warning. I don't see how that is even in the same realm as aimbotting and wallhacks.
@@kuni7547 I'm diamond - immortal currently and can't progress any further because of people going AFK or people fooling around causing me to loose rank.
Well cheating is basically the reason for the worlds ills. Education and intellect are not the same. They choose the easy option with their knowledge making them not so clever but inexperienced will not understand this.
I think there's 2 kinds of cheaters: bored kids who think it's absolutely hilarious and make little to no attempt to hide it, and grown adults whose self-esteem is deeply tied to the game.
@@doboom7948 true there is nothing wrong privately imo....these people are con artist though. taking donations, completely fraudulent people... pathetic
Adults were once kids so they are one in the same. A Cheater is a cheater, to think such feat is okay and gain fake fame, it's all about addiction for popularity.
And then there are the third type, "the farmer" they cheat inorder tolevel up or rank up an account really quickly and then sell it online. Best example of this is r6s.
I remember back in the day when MW2 was a big I remember I hacked my PS3 I was giving everyone Prestige 10 I was giving them all their guns and I was putting people into games that were just completely ridiculous. All around I hacked game so that way other people can have fun. The most fun was when you activated and hack and other people were able to use it. I hacked for charity.
A word of advice for future game developers reading this, instead of banning cheaters, just create a special server to move them to without them knowing. Let the cheaters play with each other while still granting them the ability to spend money. Also make the bots god tier with all the best cheats. Or design that AI to be deep learning. But definitely force them against each other.
Yeah, some games have done this and it's honestly a really good strategy. It gives the cheaters opponents of equivalent ability (each other) and keeps the normal players from having to deal with them.
What a great idea. I used to work for Activision and EA, and I know that the resources to do something like that could cost a fortune in people hours. Imagine QA testers working on perfecting the cheat sever mechanic. That would be so fun!!! Hopefully an indie dev could pull that off.
People who get caught cheating should still be allowed to play the games, but only with other cheaters. Poetic justice is the best justice for cheating.
I appreciate the way you explain everything simply for people that may not know what hacks look like or have never played certain games. great vid :-))
Cheatings have been there in the mid 90s as far as I know in pc gaming. That's why I don't want to deal with all these hacks. Wall hacks isn't anything new to me. I've seen it and done it. Yeah I cheat once but grown tire of not being a great experience of my own ability. Aim bot is something new that I don't have any experience with because I stop playing fps games in mid 2000.
13:46 He did not cheat though, he followed the rules. He landed outside, got a warning like the rules said... There was nothing saying it was prohibited doing it once.
Yes, Its more so that he Bent the rules, and thought outside of the literal box. I can see how people would be mad if they are following the rules to a T but the rules did say just a warrning not get insta banned. I feel that was a legit strat on his point.
This is exactly what I was thinking! You basically gave me at least a single free landing outside the zone. Sounds like everyone could have done it at least once. If they didn’t want people to land outside at all make it straight prohibited. It’s hard to accidentally land outside that area.
From my understanding you're absolutely right and even if it would have been judged cheat by the tournament rule, he clearly didn't think it was cheat if he was so openly speaking about it. He was just trying to use the rule at the best of his advantage that's all.
I love it when cheaters do get caught. Personally, I don't think there is any lower kind of human being. I'm not talking murderers or rapist's or being a felon but every day life. When you compete you want it to be fair and win with your skills. You are no winner when you cheat.
lol i like this one yes there is nothing in common with those 3 well types of people but hackers kinda have something where if you get found out make it look like its someone elses fault
It's just people cheating on games, it's not nearly the worst kind of human behaviour out there. That said, seeing these people get caught is delicious. I'm so SOOO glad a bunch of them stream their shit
Yes. I fully agree with the phrase, "As the gaming community knows, the only thing worse than cheating is cheating and still losing". In bedwars, I've taken out a few killaura cheaters through the use of spamming fireballs and it's always hilarious when I do succeed at killing them. Bonus if their bed is gone so they can't respawn!
"you'll get a warning for breaking this rule" "OK, lets break that rule because a warning doesn't really hurt us" is NOT cheating, it is bad administrating
You had me at “The tournament had a grand price of TWO THOUSAND dollars, attracting the best of the best teams from around the world” lmao it wouldn’t even cover the cost of airline tickets
Love how they blame others when they get caught cheating or pretending they don't understand how they got there. So sad that they're that desperate to be liked or looked up to.
It's just like when you're driving and someone runs a light or cuts you off and then they throw their hands up like you're the one that did something wrong.
That's basic sociology.. Specifically while an individual is Streaming in real-time, knowing that there are many watching, it's natural human instinct to protect themselves in the immediate moment... What is truly sad is when in the aftermath, after having time to think on it, they still choose to do so, by lying instead of coming clean. The immediate reaction is understandable , the secondary reaction is unforgivable
I always tell myself I'd rather uninstall than cheat, and that is 100% true. Gun to my head someone tells me to hack in a game or break my PC to prove it, I'm throwing the tower into a swimming pool and leaving it there. Cheating is shame.
“Both hacks are expressly banned in Call Of Duty.” Probably the most unrealistic take out of this whole video seeing how they still haven’t done anything about it
If people keep pumping in money for cosmetics or other meta shit the studio could care less. I'm an old Defiance ps3 player and know just how shady shit can get.
14:53 Dude did nothing wrong. In gaming, you have to be smart with your resources. If the first offence was just a warning, it can be used for an advantage, no different than anything else. I'm pretty sure there were others who did the same thing, they just didn't get caught talking about it on stream.
Yeah, I don’t consider that “cheating” at all. I’d say it’s being smart, analyzing the rules laid out, and working within them to get an advantage. They never said you CAN’T land outside of the zone
15:00 That wasn't cheating, that was opportunity taken, the penalty was already clarified, land outside the green zone and you will get points off your total score, THAT was the penalty, they agreed to it, and went with it. Not a cheat, that was strategy.
I remember playing Golden Eye on the N64, 1v1v1v1 on one TV, and everyone would look at each other's screen and immediately call out cheater, but we played anyway. Ah. Those were the days.
14:06 how come that's called cheating, the rules clearly says you can enter on the off-limits zone for a limited time. It didn't said you cannot, if it was considered cheating by firing people from a off-limits zone, then the rules should include of not able to use weapons or any similar ones. It's like taking damage in the off zone, whats so bad about it. Also he didn't use any wall hacks or aim bots nor any other softwares, he just utilised the game's rule in different perspective. And thats what I call a tactical move.
@@_djxx Then it's not cheating. If the rules say, "If you do this, we will warn you.." well then it's not cheating. He did it, he got warned. What would be cheating is if they said UNDER ABSOLUTELY NO CIRCUMSTANCES CAN YOU LAND HERE, UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DUE TO (insert whatever crazy scenario would cause for them to have to land there), AND ANYONE CAUGHT WILLFULLY ABUSING THE SYSTEM TO LAND THERE ON PURPOSE KNOWING WE ONLY WARN FOR IT, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE TOURNAMENT" - and then did it anyways, and didn't get removed (or did) you could say he 100% cheated. Breaking a rule is not always cheating. If that were the case, we'd call every NFL team cheaters. Hey man, Brady's lineman held onto Aaron Donald. Grabbed his jersey and tackled him to the ground to stop him from sacking Brady on that play. AND THE REF DIDNT EVEN FLAG IT and now Tom Brady threw a TD Pass to Gronk.. and it counted!!! They won by 1 point at the last second. That's not "CHEATING". Tell the refs to call the penalty/enforce it. Do you know how many NFL plays would be considered "cheating" if they investigated every penalty that occurs on a play? Oh probably around 99.9%. Give or take 0.1% or so.
@@_djxx That's not cheating , that's called a good TACTICS, and he didn't use any other softwares nor any other malpractices outside the game. He just utilised what the game has to offer. If you take a gamer's perspective you will understand how it's not called cheating
Eh.I've ran into hackers in minecraft and they beat me 50% of the time other 50% of the time their absolute garbage and somehow manage to get killed by me,which is then followed by me trash talking them.
@@gaminglichgamer4035 i had the same experience, and in roblox too but i win 70% every time they try to roast me, I've encountered cnps/random stupid kids online dating and they judge me by my avatar then when i roasted them so much they used cheats but then left
What gives gamers feeling of POWER: -Doing someone so hard they call you a hacker out of rage -Maxing out the game *-Defeating a hacker that isn't hiding their cheats*
That charity thing wasn't even cheating. He was just exploiting what was within the rules. Being outside the area wasn't really against the rules, it was just costing them points.
A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him. An exploit is the same as cheating hence why in competitive anything you still get banned for cheating.
@@franciosdauteuil4626 your making such a big deal when all the money is going to charity. The people on it aren’t even getting anything from it. And if the shitty Fortnite rule makers really wanted to keep them inside then they should of just made banned to go out instead of just a mistake.
@@richardakasunny5977 do people that cheat with hacks gain anything either? they just win the match and nothing else, just cuz the rules say that you get a couple of chances doesnt mean its okay to abuse that, and so what if all the money is going to charity, its just supposed to be fun and by cheating your ruining it for everybody else
I want to see a tearful apology, then a deletion of all social media, then never hear from them again. Hate cheaters. Love that games track hardware ID so they can’t just use multiple accounts.
Imagine buying some used PC parts on ebay to play this valorant game everyone has been talking about only to find out you've already been banned for hacking
"I don't know how the hacks got on my computer", sure buddy, they just came down with the Microsoft patch Tuesday update. Best reaction I ever saw was at a LAN party, where the organiser picked up the cheaters rig and literally threw it into the parking lot- there were tears that day.
tbh it happen so many time to have an computer compromised and that the hacker troll the guy it happen in apex and cs pro with their compromised computer had been trolled by hacker and they injected hack into their game midgame you were playing apex and randomly you would had silent aim or wallhack on everyone
13:20 I think Nick played the rules. The rules said you'd get a warning so he used his free warning. Technically all the players had a warning they could have used. It's funny that he had a football player as his teammate because they use technicalities in professional sports to gain an advantage all the time. I'd give him a pass for being clever.
A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him.
I don’t have valorant and I’m not a fan but I’m honestly jealous of how good they are at getting rid of hackers. As a long time dead by daylight fan, I can only dream for that to happen
Anti cheating here. But, the charity one was just clever. That's maximising the rules to your advantage. If this were a professional sports organisation every team in the comp would sacrifice a warning for a better result. If they wanted to stop the practice of landing outside of a set zone, they'd make it a straight penalty without warning. For motorsport fans - think of it like track limits. You get issued a warning (or multiple warnings) before a bad sportsmanship flag before a penalty. If you're in a battle with warnings to spare, you absolutely use that to your advantage. The rest of the videos are clear-cut cheating.
I think, there's a difference between "cheating" and "exploiting". If you exploit the System, Rules or for an example the Game Mechanics - It's ain't cheating.
Exploiting is pretty much breaking the game in in one way or another but cheating is also exploiting cheating is anything that gives you an unfair advantage (autoclicker, cheat softwares, glitches, modifying game files) that is cheating but it’s only an unfair advantage if the other person isn’t doing the same thing you are for example if someone is bullying you they overpower you if they punch you and you don’t punch back that’s bullying but if you punch back now that “bully” is just a mean guy since nobody is overpowering eachother and what i am saying is that if you cheat on someone who is using cheats it’s not longer cheating because no one has an unfair advantage over eachother
A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him.
I hate the fact that most hackers don't get banned but the tryhards and sweat gamer who grind continuous have to suffer through their hacking 😢😢😢 Love ur vid by the way ❤❤❤❤
My friend was being accused for cheating in GTA 5 because there level was over 1000, my friend had been playing that game for years but this jealous person kept saying my friend was cheating
Not just the sweats and tryhards, imagine how many more "casual" type players spent money on a game only to get beat by cheaters every time they get a chance to play like after work or on the weekends or something. Then they would just quit playing and chalk it up to a loss of $70 on a game that's not even fun because cheaters ruined it. It really pisses me off to no end. I know Warzone is free, but as an example, my brother and I quit playing the 1st one altogether because it just ruined any and all fun.
@@TheIrishRushin Yeah sucks to be accused of cheating when you are just locked in that one day. I had a match like that in Halo Infinite once. What's really funny is, they were on my team the very next match, and I went SUPER negative KDR lol.
@@samc9133 Funny, I've never been accused of cheating even when I've had crazy strong games and dominated everyone else. People can generally tell the difference between good gameplay and suspicious gameplay.
He exploited a loophole to steal money from the other charities. The rule says if you cheat once, you get a warning. It doesn't say it's not cheating. I think cheating with money involved should be a felony. It's theft by fraud.
Yup most of the streamers that gained their followings from consistently dominating lobbies (especially ranked) are cheating. Unfortunately most top players in most games are cheating and very few (if there is any) are up there due to skill but overshadowed and struggle busing it by all the cheaters. Nearly every product now is geared to helping players cheat now... because it sells. I wouldn't doubt if companies are producing the games and also cheats on the back end to double up $$ also. It's glorious to see hackers get caught but unfortunately they are unicorns compared to those whom continue to get away with it thus others will forever take their chances. The streamers should have to pay every single donation, their ad revenue, merch sales etc. etc. back when they're caught - make the consequences heavy and maybe others will think twice before grifting in such a way.
@@510Redneck it’s crazy how many people cheat at mtg tournaments, it’s funny seeing all the paper players trying to play on mtga and not making the tournament they went from 100% always there and now only 1 of like 8 they will make
I cheat on FiveM mostly to troll players ( like locking cars changing car colors breaking their vehicles etc) and to get back at other cheaters or at people doing anti rp
@joshuasimpson6374 you're missing one key reason why they do it. It's not like they're doing it at home for themselves, they're tryna get big on socials and make money.
My son is an avid COD player, and I remember him being enraged when they’d kill him off so easily. Many seem to have been using cheating software or hacks. He never ONCE used any. I know, since I’ve watched him playing games myself, not just because I’m his mom and defending him. He’s got really good eye-hand coordination, even though he’s left handed.
Happy to see cheating is taken seriously and I'm not alone thinking its disgraceful to cheat , thank you for making the world a better place by exposing the cheaters
14:30 - This is not cheating this is taking a penalty. The rules stated going outside the zone would get warnings and point deductions so they were willing to take those penalties in hope of recouping them for an overall better score.
This 100%. Cheating is when you break rules that would have you disqualified. Taking point deductions is more akin to being in a sport and getting a penalty like offsides.
@@I2ed3ye Its more like taking time to run out the clock. its frowned upon and too much leads to a penalty or dq but sometimes taking that penalty is a strategic choice
@@I2ed3ye I would say it's more akin to a basketball player forcing a foul in order to stop the clock and hope to get the ball back. Going offsides is usually an unintentional act where you either have a brainfart or the offense gets you to jump. The player didn't want to go offsides but accidents happen.
Exactly. Stupid children whine about innocent poorly-worded-rule abuse while making excuses for guys like Dream, who made his whole career by cheating. Idiots
"I don't know how they got there" Ahh yes, we've all had those days where we boot up a game and cheat software is just magically there on your PC for no reason and automatically running when you start playing. Hate it when that happens!
Same thing kids say when Mom finds their stash of weed, or worse, your collection and dubious floppy things. Thats a lose/lose situation. Just save yourself the pain and rip that band-aid off. Sooner the better, you can just get on with life asap without anymore embarrassment. You'll remember those moments with laughter as a kid. And dread when your sister gets drunk and starts talking about something you weren't caught for later in life to your parents.
I wouldn't say that... if you ask anyone outside his specific fandom, they'll all say they hate him because he cheated and rigged the votes and whatever else. The man isn't being careful about his reputation and even if it is his responsibility to some degree, he cannot control his fandom without causing more harm. Opinions and beliefs will stay black/white rather than grey because people want to focus on the negatives. Dream hasn't done anything that's more or less bad than the rest of the population, it's only getting attention because he's basically on the front page of minecraft atm. His very existence is being used by others to gain money and attention, every little "bad" thing that has ever happened will stick around for the public to see and be exploited, for the rest of his life and there's nothing he can do about it. He donated so much money to cancer, but that's not interesting, nobody cares if he contributed more than most people ever will, that's not putting everyone else on a higher horse, so why talk about it, right..?
Honestly, Nick was mainly having good fun with his partner, pointing to his laugh about it, but he shouldn't really, at the end of the day, one thing many people forget is that games should be played for fun
@@tyupchurch3423 I do think he just goes with the (fortnite) community's reaction, which is why he even gave us the chance to say if we think Nick is a cheater or not
That landing outside the zone thing isn't cheating. It's gaming the system. If they tell you you can go out of bounds X times and you choose to use that to your advantage, there's nothing about that that's against the rules.
Exactly and if the creators of this event didn't want players to do that, they would've instantly banned them if they were to land out of bounds and stay longer than a few minutes. Also, wouldn't allow a few warnings to repeated offenders before banning.
these 2 landed on the no play zone and stacking up for gun munition and material before going into battle that is a Hot Drop Zone tournament these 2 were no where to be found in the battle
The landing out side the specified area "cheat" seems more like a tactical play. I don't know much about fortnight or sports but don't sports teams do similar things. If it was a bigger deal would there be harsher punishments. Like the player said it was a warning and if being outside the area gave an advantage then any team even doing it on accident would get an advantage.
I Dnt c that as a cheat the rest could of did the next match to me a cheat is when someone uses something the plays or does parts of the game for them like aiming see people throw walks extra Health or invincibility
Exactly if he lands outside the map he loses points. And if they still managed to get more points than people inside the zone, they need to play better. If they wanted it to be cheating the rules should’ve been they get kicked immediately
This was interesting to watch. Definitely educated me more to keep a look out for these hackers using cheating software. It was pretty funny how majority of their followers caught them red handed in the act lmao. Keep up the good work. Im gonna go watch part 1 now :D
The dream situation should have been a quick "I'm sorry for cheating" but he had to be an idiot and defend himself against something literally impossible
Regarding the guy beating the odds... I have that problem all the time in games, and I can't explain it. Playing Lord of the Rings Online, I was crafting silver rings on my jeweler. Using various buffs, I got my chance of a critical success up to about 70%. That means I had a 70% chance of making a superior ring on each crafting attempt. After making 500 rings, I got ZERO superior rings. Playing Magic the Gathering (the first PC game, I don't recall the name), I built a 40 card deck with 16 mana. The odds of drawing 0 mana in the first 10 cards is pretty small. The odds of doing that 25 times in a row... it's a statistical impossibility, yet it happened OFTEN. The AI opponent, meanwhile, was drawing absurdly "lucky" combinations of cards allowing him to defeat me by the second turn (eg. Black Lotus and a forest, summons a Sprite, then drops 3 Giant Growths and a Berserk on turn 2... which the game did 12 times in one night of playing). There comes a point where you wonder how something that SHOULD be impossible keeps happening.
Regarding the landing zone, as long as they had the pre-arranged amount of points deducted, they were not cheating, they were working creatively within the pre-arranged limits.
A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him.
@@franciosdauteuil4626 Allow me to fix that. Cheating is something that gets you disqualified, not stated up front to be a tactical option that has points deducted.
@@KB-kp2ozLate 2000s? I hope you do not mean born late 2000s. I am 1998 and am close to if not pro level on many games. I am the best, we are the best. You kids know nothing. When you are 16-25, your aim is at its peak and as your mind develops closer to 25, you can outplay anyone if you have +20K hrs.
@@pseudophp did I say born in 2000? Reading comprehension has fell off the planet. You literally created a strawman to argue your entire comment. Vaccinated?
@@pseudophp No, more like 13-18/19. On average, the only thing stopping actual kids from becoming professional players is their age. Otherwise 13 year olds would clap everyone. Case in point as above, Rocket League.
Another detail about Lee's faked run is that the first thing viewers asked him to do to prove he was doing the run legit was to make certain movements during an autoscrolling section of the game (an autoscrolling section being one where the camera advances through the level at a fixed speed, meaning a speedrunner can do whatever they want during them as long as they are in the right position when the exit becomes accessible). He refused which brought the community members to demand the controller cam instead.
Obviously the charity event wasn't cheating. The rules were clear: warning followed by point loss. Point loss in exchange for advantage. Totally legitimate strategy.
That's exactly what i think. If they didn't want them to land anywhere else, they would have said "no warning, you'll get kicked out of the tournament if you land anywhere else". Anyone who got mad at Nick for using this strategy is just a kid who is just jealous
@@KarlMarkEarl It's not even considered to be in a "cheating" category. The rules are clear: you'll get a warning and you'll lose points if you land somewhere else. If they wanted to prevent others from landing somewhere other than the location they told them too, they would have taken immediate action, like banning or kicking them out of the tournament, like every other "cheating" case.
Yeah, i came here to agree, you can see that it is a potential vantage point, you can pinpoint where they are to where the bullets come from and I dont think they 'guiltily shut off their stream' what kind of valorant steam is worth watching when the person cant play?
@@tkoqqhax3961 i agree with jailtime. People are spending their precious free time after work to enjoy stuff. You cheat you ruined other people's time. Tell me buddy. Can you buy time???
@@TheWindows72306 that’s too childish now u cheat in an online game and u go to jail? That’s way too much I mean that’s already dumb but then think about people who didn’t actually cheat and we’re falsely accused they will still have to go to court and crap this idea is just stupid
Hilariously enough, the guy that first called out Dream for cheating by saying Dream was getting impossible luck in his speed runs ultimately got caught cheating himself because pro players noticed he was getting impossible luck in his speed runs. Takes a cheater to know a cheater, huh?
Honestly, the Charity thing seemed more like an abuse, or loose interpretation, of the rules than an actual "cheat". The hosts set the system up for manipulation by putting in the "warning" system. Easiest way to handle it from there would be a hard reset on the match once someone was caught out of bounds. Next time, begone. Better than just a warning.
A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him.
Nick "cheating" in the charity event is a simple example of exploiting a loophole, nothing more than that, he didnt deserve a punishment for simply outplaying the event hosters
While it's technically not "cheating" as he was just abusing badly designed rules it's more about the moral of it. It was a charity event and he played dirty.
I don't see what nickeh30 doing as cheating but a strategy that could of cost him points or whatever. My dude didn't use wall hacks or aim bot or actual cheats.
this reminds me of a story i once heard. a man checks into a hotel, and the front desk informs him that there's a $200 fine if he's caught smoking in his room. He then promptly pulls out $200, hands it over, and says he's going to be smoking in there. the reason why i find this story similar is because the event organizers said it would be a warning for non-compliance, so the ground rules were laid out. how the participants chose to deal w/that was up to them.
I’m still amazed by how quickly everyone forgave Dream. His channel got almost no punishment from it and everyone forgot about it in 2 seconds. If that happened to anyone else, they would be disowned in a minute.
This is true. I think he got off so easy just because it was a 'for fun' thing, and he really did seem to have done it accidentally. Owning up to it was a big step in the right direction considering most people double down even when their cheats are super obvious. Dream did a lot to try and prove his authenticity with hiring an expert and spending so much time trying to figure out the problem, and not making any money off of it was a huge point in the overall look. Having dipped into other content than just speedruns also had an impact, imo. If he was solely a speedrunning channel, I feel like he wouldn't have come out as easy as he did.
I'm still amazed by how quickly everyone forgave Dream. His channel got almost no punishment from it and everyone forgot about it in 2 seconds. If that happened to anyone else, they would be disowned in a minute.
I used to play COD but when I saw countless people tracking me perfectly through walls in their kill cams I abandoned the franchise. It's pathetic how rampant cheating is throughout the cesspool that is the player base.
@@yikes6969 The last time I played warzone I was killed by a person that had glitched under the map. Literally shot me through the ground. The devs are such a joke.
Cheating at online games is basically admitting you cant compete with other players, at that point you should give up and donate your gaming rig to charity.
well do you know what the german word "schadenfreude" means? It's beeing happy about something "bad"(in this case getting banned live) happening to others :D
I remember getting banned in ICE Vixens chat for calling her out. I'm glad somebody was able to do it.
well done for calling her out! hero 😎
@@BeAmazed wow its u
edit: why the heck are so many people liking this
You are a hero sir
You the guy simping for stargirl?
@frostspiritgaming111 fire fire fire fire fire fire fire fire
"If you're stupid enough to cheat, be smart enough not to get caught." Loved that lol
I had once killed 17 player's in a row, then I got threatened of cheating even though I was not and got unnecessarily banned lol
@@theguywhousedtocare Had that happen to me too but on Phantom Forces on Roblox. Never played it before but I am really good at FPS games so when a level 6 is wiping the enemy team. People tend to get suspicious, it never got serious but I had the entire team accuse me of cheating because “A level 6 gamer shouldn’t be destroying the entire team”
@@ohHeyKev lol but wow! You wiped out a squad, always remember that haters means
Having
Anger
Towards
Everything
Reaching
Success
@@theguywhousedtocare Haha thanks most were pretty mad and the hate continued on to the next couple of matches lol. But like I said it didn't get so bad where I was kicked but it was getting there haha
@@ohHeyKev lol it happens bro
"Better to rage quit than cheat."
- Me
Faaax
😅🤣👍
- An Important Quote Every Gamer Needs
I did now i broke me laptop :(
You could have just said that instead of quoting yourself
That look on a cheaters face, when they realize they have
been caught, is priceless.
Charity guy didn't cheat, he just took advantage of poorly thought out tournament rules.
thats what im saying its not cheating if they say it is a warning that means he gets a free go outside the area
Yeah your right
Wrong. The rule says if you cheat once, you get a warning. It doesn't say it's not cheating. In my opinion, it's theft by fraud and should be prosecuted. He literally stole money from the other charities.
Imagine telling your GF your cheated on her but it was for charity. You were in a different country. Poor rules.
hmmmmmm i can sense smort
"I don't know how those wallhacks got there" is equivalent to "No, Mom. This isn't a cookie from the cookie jar that's in my hand". LOL!
I agree
Lmao
It's like robbing a bank and walking out the front door, while telling the cops it was a withdrawal...
@@GoldenSpace6016facts
It's like "The virus pulled my pants down! I swear."
@@benzyb9746 eueejj
14:50 I mean… he isn’t wrong. They were allowed a warning. I’m not surprised they exploited something that wasn’t a disqualification
It looked more like taking advantage of a loophole than cheating to me
@@adlilzafri2322 Agreed. This is totally fine IMO. You played within the rules set.
In hockey you get penalties for doing certain actions. Most of the time its not worth it, however when the opposing team has a break away and is 1vgoaling it can be highly advantageous to take a penalty cause a 5v4. Instead of a free shot, They call these "good penalties." You can choose to do anything that would cause a penalty and accept the consequences that is all they did in this instance.
Nick is nice overall he knew that isn’t cheating that’s why he did that for *A good cause* that is the point!he “cheated” for a good cause not for selfish money
Exploiting a warning system isnt cheating.
It's like in high school, we'd get 10 unexcused absences throughout the year before graduating would be put in jeopardy. Well, another way to look at it is that I get 10 free no-questions asked vacation days.
i dont see it any differently than an intentional foul in basketball lulz
Things people hate online: cheaters, teamers, campers,and the people who just go afk for xp.
Camping is a valid strat in a lot of games, I think it's fun going up against campers, or having to tip toe around areas to keep an eye out for them. Fun in BF5 watching people get pinned down by someone holding a really good position on a window. I don't usually do it but I do think it's fun and makes for interesting gameplay.
I'll tolerate AFK, but the rest? Nah
Did you become someone's victim Hy camping or cheating?😅😅😅 That's one annoying fellow 😂😂😂their patients are off the chart when camping lol
insurance companies hate this one simple trick
dont forget daters
Nick didn't cheat, in fact he followed the rules exactly.
The rules said if you land outside the landing zone, you get a warning. All he did was go for the warning. I don't see how that is even in the same realm as aimbotting and wallhacks.
exactly my thought!!
exactly bro
I was coming to comment this exactly. I knew the story as soon as he started, and I was shaking my head saying "Nah. Slimy? Yeah. Cheating? No."
Yup, i was thinking the same thing. He didn't break any rules
Yeah I agree
Thumbs up to Riot and Vanguard for banning the hardware of the cheater entirely. More companies should follow this practice.
Even though you can evade those HW bans now, by using an ID Spoofer
@@ItsJustRuru Maybe. The point is I've been playing Valorant for more than a year and i haven't encountered a cheater yet. Their method works.
@@Dimitris4110 LOL no... u just didnt notice or are very low rank.
@@kuni7547 I'm diamond - immortal currently and can't progress any further because of people going AFK or people fooling around causing me to loose rank.
@@Dimitris4110 Well then you encounter them everyday and just don't notice. Valo had cheaters before the game even fully came out.
"You don't need an aimbot to hit that subscribe button."
*accidentally hits dislike button.
Ye, gods, my aim is terrible.
How could he have hit the like button if he just clicked on the page? Thats pretty sus if you ask me...
@@TopSuperDude yeah ikr grey lookin sus
Yikes, I just closed my goddamn browser (talk about being this bad at aiming)
@@anormalperson1188 😏😏😏😏😏😏😱😱😱😱😱🤫🤫sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus
Yes
There is so much injustice in the world that it is therapeutic seeing cheaters caught like this.
Well cheating is basically the reason for the worlds ills. Education and intellect are not the same. They choose the easy option with their knowledge making them not so clever but inexperienced will not understand this.
The live ban of Minininja was so satisfying to watch here, and I can only imagine how it felt in person!
I'm sure they were fucking pissed and tried to pull that
WHAT THE FUCK WHY DID I JUST GET BANNED
I DID NOTHING WRONG
If you know what I mean you know
The fact that they can just make a new account is hilarious
@@loavy4007 Yeah they don't hardware ban do they? :/
@@Errxr_Cyn q
timestamp?
I think there's 2 kinds of cheaters: bored kids who think it's absolutely hilarious and make little to no attempt to hide it, and grown adults whose self-esteem is deeply tied to the game.
sometimes you just wanna mess with your friends and troll them with hacks in a private game
@@doboom7948 true there is nothing wrong privately imo....these people are con artist though. taking donations, completely fraudulent people... pathetic
Adults were once kids so they are one in the same. A Cheater is a cheater, to think such feat is okay and gain fake fame, it's all about addiction for popularity.
And then there are the third type, "the farmer" they cheat inorder tolevel up or rank up an account really quickly and then sell it online.
Best example of this is r6s.
I remember back in the day when MW2 was a big I remember I hacked my PS3 I was giving everyone Prestige 10 I was giving them all their guns and I was putting people into games that were just completely ridiculous.
All around I hacked game so that way other people can have fun.
The most fun was when you activated and hack and other people were able to use it.
I hacked for charity.
A word of advice for future game developers reading this, instead of banning cheaters, just create a special server to move them to without them knowing. Let the cheaters play with each other while still granting them the ability to spend money. Also make the bots god tier with all the best cheats. Or design that AI to be deep learning. But definitely force them against each other.
Bro i love hvhs this is a great idea
oh like the soft-ban server for DS3
Yeah, some games have done this and it's honestly a really good strategy. It gives the cheaters opponents of equivalent ability (each other) and keeps the normal players from having to deal with them.
@@reinhard7164 its not actually, a lot of games have done this already
What a great idea. I used to work for Activision and EA, and I know that the resources to do something like that could cost a fortune in people hours. Imagine QA testers working on perfecting the cheat sever mechanic. That would be so fun!!! Hopefully an indie dev could pull that off.
Hahahahaha 7:56 "What next, is he going to start blaming Clara?" That just made me laugh for straight 5 minutes!
i laughed 2
did it really?...
Damn it, Clara! 😠
People who get caught cheating should still be allowed to play the games, but only with other cheaters. Poetic justice is the best justice for cheating.
This. Add in long queue times in between matches.
there are some games who do or did just that. having cheater only queueing.
Sounds like warzone's policy before Richochet
If they make money from their streams, I'd like to see them charged with fraud
Isn't this what VAC tries to do? :)
I appreciate the way you explain everything simply for people that may not know what hacks look like or have never played certain games. great vid :-))
But I dont like how he resaid the same thing over and over again haha
@@justintietz4477 Yeah but the godly roasts he makes make up for it lol
Cheatings have been there in the mid 90s as far as I know in pc gaming. That's why I don't want to deal with all these hacks. Wall hacks isn't anything new to me. I've seen it and done it. Yeah I cheat once but grown tire of not being a great experience of my own ability. Aim bot is something new that I don't have any experience with because I stop playing fps games in mid 2000.
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After 5 parts of this series, I think Clara is the one responsible for catching all these cheaters.
13:46 He did not cheat though, he followed the rules. He landed outside, got a warning like the rules said... There was nothing saying it was prohibited doing it once.
Yes, Its more so that he Bent the rules, and thought outside of the literal box. I can see how people would be mad if they are following the rules to a T but the rules did say just a warrning not get insta banned. I feel that was a legit strat on his point.
This is exactly what I was thinking! You basically gave me at least a single free landing outside the zone. Sounds like everyone could have done it at least once. If they didn’t want people to land outside at all make it straight prohibited. It’s hard to accidentally land outside that area.
no but he did tho they aren't allowed outside the rectangle they'll get a warning if they didn't notice they're outside so yeah he cheated
@@Jotolink nah he didn't "bent the rules" he literally just broke it the rule states to not go outside the box or rectangle and he went outside
@@Canlass Yep he broke the rules but in the same way as when you break the rules in football and get a yellow card.
The "Charity Rule" stated you'd be warned on first offense, so he used it to his advantage. Not cheating, bending the rules a bit though.
I totally agree
From my understanding you're absolutely right and even if it would have been judged cheat by the tournament rule, he clearly didn't think it was cheat if he was so openly speaking about it. He was just trying to use the rule at the best of his advantage that's all.
Exactly.. more of an exploit. Lol
There weren’t even hacks used so it’s fine, bit dickish but still.
Every one of you is THAT kid that only uses leg sweeps when playing a fighting game.
I love it when cheaters do get caught. Personally, I don't think there is any lower kind of human being. I'm not talking murderers or rapist's or being a felon but every day life. When you compete you want it to be fair and win with your skills. You are no winner when you cheat.
lol i like this one yes there is nothing in common with those 3 well types of people but hackers kinda have something where if you get found out make it look like its someone elses fault
I want to eat these people
@@certifiedbrickbattler canibals!!!👀👀👀
It's just people cheating on games, it's not nearly the worst kind of human behaviour out there. That said, seeing these people get caught is delicious. I'm so SOOO glad a bunch of them stream their shit
Agreed
Dream saying he "accidentally" cheated is the flimsiest excuse ever
“I gotta call one of my Clara friends rq. Told her not to use hacks on my pc”😭😭. That ones a classic😂.
I think so you are lying
@@drako10m what ?
i know thar refrence..poor clara
@@ttrroollttooll6911 😂😭😭
Lmao yeah
Yes. I fully agree with the phrase, "As the gaming community knows, the only thing worse than cheating is cheating and still losing". In bedwars, I've taken out a few killaura cheaters through the use of spamming fireballs and it's always hilarious when I do succeed at killing them. Bonus if their bed is gone so they can't respawn!
nobody asked
@@muey5265 public forum. don't like comments? get off the entirety of online! simple ;)
@@muey5265 nobody asked u either
@@muey5265 don't
@@livewellwitheds6885 cry about it
"I guess becoming a pro player just wasn't apart of his Destiny" Have to applaud that pun 👏🏾
: )
A part, not “apart”
Thank you, typo.
Typo still exists.
@@kemicallx just doing my job👍
Low key, I could listen to your voice for hours lol😂 Awesome Video.
"you'll get a warning for breaking this rule" "OK, lets break that rule because a warning doesn't really hurt us" is NOT cheating, it is bad administrating
That's what I was thinking
facts
Facts
Thought the same..! Make a clear rule, a warning is a warning nothing more.
That's what I was thinking. It's like in a game where there's a kill barrier. As long as you get back in before time runs out you're good.
You had me at “The tournament had a grand price of TWO THOUSAND dollars, attracting the best of the best teams from around the world” lmao it wouldn’t even cover the cost of airline tickets
It was an online tournament.. so no airfare.. but ta 2k isnt a whole lot split 5 ways lol
Lol
@@souza-m7l 2k is a joke. "the best of the best" wouldn't even consider using that shit as toilet paper.
You sound spoilt
@@OMEGA_575 Who? I work for my own money ;)
Love how they blame others when they get caught cheating or pretending they don't understand how they got there. So sad that they're that desperate to be liked or looked up to.
😂🤣😂sad behaviour
It's just like when you're driving and someone runs a light or cuts you off and then they throw their hands up like you're the one that did something wrong.
It was probably Clara
ok
That's basic sociology.. Specifically while an individual is Streaming in real-time, knowing that there are many watching, it's natural human instinct to protect themselves in the immediate moment... What is truly sad is when in the aftermath, after having time to think on it, they still choose to do so, by lying instead of coming clean. The immediate reaction is understandable , the secondary reaction is unforgivable
Fun Fact: Every year cheaters gather at the Cheater's Annual Ball Room for festivities and cake.
Like I’ve always said, “I would rather suck than cheat.”
now that's my 2nd quote appart from "It isn't even a fight anymore, its an execution!"
@@LzLc- "You're a raider, LEGENDARY!"
Wish my ex felt that way. Lol.
@@moshunit96 XD if you read that and say your ex said that thats a whole other level of the sentence
I always tell myself I'd rather uninstall than cheat, and that is 100% true. Gun to my head someone tells me to hack in a game or break my PC to prove it, I'm throwing the tower into a swimming pool and leaving it there. Cheating is shame.
“Both hacks are expressly banned in Call Of Duty.” Probably the most unrealistic take out of this whole video seeing how they still haven’t done anything about it
Yeah fr, they aren’t expressly banned they’re expressively used☠️
they lock the hacker in the stadium now... bout it...
@@dawsongamblin5246 Do they really? That’s pretty funny
If people keep pumping in money for cosmetics or other meta shit the studio could care less. I'm an old Defiance ps3 player and know just how shady shit can get.
10:35 is even more unrealistic. the player doesn't even kill the enemy, nor does he even hit the shots. but the narrator says so...
Cheaters getting banned is one of the greatest things. Seeing them get banned on live stream is a cherry on top of the cake
I love it more when people in cs accuses you of cheating when you are just better than them and you get map knowledge / muscle memory after 4000 hours
Sounds suspiciously similar to what these hackers said before being caught.
25:57
If you are one of those whose game has been ruined by those cheaters... Man you can feel this moment
Agreed, RIP BO3
@@Coleslaw97 what happened to black ops 3?
@@BillyYo17 nearly every team death match is hacked.
Hopefully valve fixes TF2 and we can remove it from this list
@@Coleslaw97 what?!
14:53 Dude did nothing wrong. In gaming, you have to be smart with your resources. If the first offence was just a warning, it can be used for an advantage, no different than anything else. I'm pretty sure there were others who did the same thing, they just didn't get caught talking about it on stream.
Yeah I agree, you know you get a warning use it to your advantage
He didn't use an outside program to give him an unfair advantage. I would argue that they didn't cheat.
You can argue its scummy tactics but scummy tactics are allowed. If they dont want it in the future, then they shall give no warnings.
@@buddmcstudd6994 or put in like a warning barrier that could kill in a certain amount of time just like in apex.
Yeah, I don’t consider that “cheating” at all. I’d say it’s being smart, analyzing the rules laid out, and working within them to get an advantage. They never said you CAN’T land outside of the zone
15:00 That wasn't cheating, that was opportunity taken, the penalty was already clarified, land outside the green zone and you will get points off your total score, THAT was the penalty, they agreed to it, and went with it. Not a cheat, that was strategy.
the only problem i have is it being a charity event
@@otisthecow and he got more money for his charity event nothing too bad if you think about it
@@otisthecow and? it's still not cheating. Using the rules to your very advantage is literally not cheating.
@@vichilfgalanida4010 still a dick move but not cheating that's for sure...
It's only cheating if you somehow are able to do it without getting a penalty.
I remember playing Golden Eye on the N64, 1v1v1v1 on one TV, and everyone would look at each other's screen and immediately call out cheater, but we played anyway.
Ah. Those were the days.
"You dirty screen looker!"
"Thats 69% *giggle* nice"
Ah i see, you're men of culture as well
noice
The men culture meme is cringe
@@holdencommodorehsv okay
@@holdencommodorehsv c
@@holdencommodorehsv finally someone said it
14:06 how come that's called cheating, the rules clearly says you can enter on the off-limits zone for a limited time. It didn't said you cannot, if it was considered cheating by firing people from a off-limits zone, then the rules should include of not able to use weapons or any similar ones. It's like taking damage in the off zone, whats so bad about it. Also he didn't use any wall hacks or aim bots nor any other softwares, he just utilised the game's rule in different perspective. And thats what I call a tactical move.
Yeah, he didn't cheat, he just received a warning
because it was cheating he only did it because he knew that they only get a warning
@@_djxx Then it's not cheating. If the rules say, "If you do this, we will warn you.." well then it's not cheating. He did it, he got warned. What would be cheating is if they said UNDER ABSOLUTELY NO CIRCUMSTANCES CAN YOU LAND HERE, UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DUE TO (insert whatever crazy scenario would cause for them to have to land there), AND ANYONE CAUGHT WILLFULLY ABUSING THE SYSTEM TO LAND THERE ON PURPOSE KNOWING WE ONLY WARN FOR IT, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE TOURNAMENT" - and then did it anyways, and didn't get removed (or did) you could say he 100% cheated. Breaking a rule is not always cheating.
If that were the case, we'd call every NFL team cheaters. Hey man, Brady's lineman held onto Aaron Donald. Grabbed his jersey and tackled him to the ground to stop him from sacking Brady on that play. AND THE REF DIDNT EVEN FLAG IT and now Tom Brady threw a TD Pass to Gronk.. and it counted!!! They won by 1 point at the last second. That's not "CHEATING". Tell the refs to call the penalty/enforce it.
Do you know how many NFL plays would be considered "cheating" if they investigated every penalty that occurs on a play? Oh probably around 99.9%. Give or take 0.1% or so.
@@_djxx That's not cheating , that's called a good TACTICS, and he didn't use any other softwares nor any other malpractices outside the game. He just utilised what the game has to offer. If you take a gamer's perspective you will understand how it's not called cheating
ahhh yes loopholes
Seeing Northernlion laugh while watching the cheater was therapeutic.
The charity guy didn’t cheat. He broke the rules. There’s a difference
That just goes to show that "cheaters never win, and winners never cheat". If you can't play fair competitively, don't play at all.
Eh.I've ran into hackers in minecraft and they beat me 50% of the time other 50% of the time their absolute garbage and somehow manage to get killed by me,which is then followed by me trash talking them.
@@gaminglichgamer4035 i had the same experience, and in roblox too but i win 70% every time they try to roast me, I've encountered cnps/random stupid kids online dating and they judge me by my avatar then when i roasted them so much they used cheats but then left
Cheets sux.
@@Pupperpats *Cheats suck.
@@d9gepro2 I was being silly, I know it is cheats suck.
What gives gamers feeling of POWER:
-Doing someone so hard they call you a hacker out of rage
-Maxing out the game
*-Defeating a hacker that isn't hiding their cheats*
Defeating a smurf is also in that list
Defeating the maus is the best feeling in world of tanks
@@diggitydiggity5523 Yea, especially one shotting it with altilery (it is possible)
Also killing a pro player
@@lemon4692 Sadly it's out of top 4, but it's pure satisfactory
That charity thing wasn't even cheating. He was just exploiting what was within the rules. Being outside the area wasn't really against the rules, it was just costing them points.
@The Sociopath because it's riot games, they have been power tripping all this time
@The Sociopath but it’s literally not cheating so why would he even have to say anything about it. He did a play that cost him points
A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him. An exploit is the same as cheating hence why in competitive anything you still get banned for cheating.
@@franciosdauteuil4626 your making such a big deal when all the money is going to charity. The people on it aren’t even getting anything from it. And if the shitty Fortnite rule makers really wanted to keep them inside then they should of just made banned to go out instead of just a mistake.
@@richardakasunny5977 do people that cheat with hacks gain anything either? they just win the match and nothing else, just cuz the rules say that you get a couple of chances doesnt mean its okay to abuse that, and so what if all the money is going to charity, its just supposed to be fun and by cheating your ruining it for everybody else
love seeing NL popping up in random youtube video
I think we should have a "Cheat Con" where cheaters around the world will compete & see whose the world greatest cheater :)
Invite the entirety of 2B2T
Interesting
That will support others to cheat, but i like your idea :))
That would be funny
Let's keep their exposure to a minimum. That's what they deserve.
I want to see a tearful apology, then a deletion of all social media, then never hear from them again. Hate cheaters. Love that games track hardware ID so they can’t just use multiple accounts.
hardware spoofers. there are games with hardware band and reoccurring hackers
Just keep creating more work for em is the best they can do I guess lol.
Imagine thinking that Hardware ID bans actually prevents people to keep cheating. Hahaa peanut brain
u know that they could buy new pc’s and play on those right?
Imagine buying some used PC parts on ebay to play this valorant game everyone has been talking about only to find out you've already been banned for hacking
Lmao
Rekt
They ban the ip.....
@@AndyKPOV Hardware ID Ban (HWID Ban) is pretty common. Windows itself uses your HWID to make sure you didn't pirate Windows
@@xYOSIYAx what do you mean by "pirate windows" ?
BE AMAZED, awesome video keep it up dude
It blows my mind that people would cheat themselves out of the satisfaction of actually learning and mastering a game. Weird.
It's never looking for genuine satisfaction of a job well done, it's just people looking for the quick dopamine hit of completely destroying someone
well many streamers make money off their successful gameplay so it isn’t just about winning but win enough that people give you money
Peer pressure.
@@ChineduOpara All of these are right, but for a lot of cheaters its about the ego boost, as they usually have fragile egos that can't handle losing.
@@wandereringshadow8658 That too. Probably some combination of both.
"I don't know how the hacks got on my computer", sure buddy, they just came down with the Microsoft patch Tuesday update. Best reaction I ever saw was at a LAN party, where the organiser picked up the cheaters rig and literally threw it into the parking lot- there were tears that day.
that's one way to throw out a cheater
It was Clara
and the organiser gets charged for criminal damage lol
Wasnt that back in the early 2000's while playing cs?
tbh it happen so many time to have an computer compromised and that the hacker troll the guy it happen in apex and cs pro with their compromised computer had been trolled by hacker and they injected hack into their game midgame you were playing apex and randomly you would had silent aim or wallhack on everyone
13:20 I think Nick played the rules. The rules said you'd get a warning so he used his free warning. Technically all the players had a warning they could have used. It's funny that he had a football player as his teammate because they use technicalities in professional sports to gain an advantage all the time. I'd give him a pass for being clever.
A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him.
@@franciosdauteuil4626 204 people disagree with you bud.
I like how you're telling me 500 times that the boxes around players aren't normal
I don’t have valorant and I’m not a fan but I’m honestly jealous of how good they are at getting rid of hackers. As a long time dead by daylight fan, I can only dream for that to happen
Vanguard is a massive encroachment on a user privacy honestly and I'll never get that disgusting spyware on my system
Wish this could also happen in warzone
@@morningstar3178 gay
@@morningstar3178 it's just modern warfare with new maps lol same engine.
@@bigsherk42069 oh not the game, i meant valorant's anti cheat it's called vanguard
Anti cheating here. But, the charity one was just clever. That's maximising the rules to your advantage. If this were a professional sports organisation every team in the comp would sacrifice a warning for a better result. If they wanted to stop the practice of landing outside of a set zone, they'd make it a straight penalty without warning.
For motorsport fans - think of it like track limits. You get issued a warning (or multiple warnings) before a bad sportsmanship flag before a penalty. If you're in a battle with warnings to spare, you absolutely use that to your advantage.
The rest of the videos are clear-cut cheating.
Exploiting the gray area and loopholes of the rules
I think, there's a difference between "cheating" and "exploiting".
If you exploit the System, Rules or for an example the Game Mechanics - It's ain't cheating.
Exploiting is pretty much breaking the game in in one way or another but cheating is also exploiting cheating is anything that gives you an unfair advantage (autoclicker, cheat softwares, glitches, modifying game files) that is cheating but it’s only an unfair advantage if the other person isn’t doing the same thing you are for example if someone is bullying you they overpower you if they punch you and you don’t punch back that’s bullying but if you punch back now that “bully” is just a mean guy since nobody is overpowering eachother and what i am saying is that if you cheat on someone who is using cheats it’s not longer cheating because no one has an unfair advantage over eachother
Yes, professional foul.
A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him.
The craziest thing in this video is , every hacker didn’t even become number one ranking in their games
Number one makes you a hunting target for the community even more.
Because the best cheaters don't get caught .
@@ejkr2051exactly, I'm convinced at least half of those leaderboards are filled with cheaters
@@ejkr2051Ong. Imagine some of those top 15 players are actually hackers but KNOW how to conceal themselves so well they don't get caught 😂
Cheaters get beaters I thought that up myself
I hate the fact that most hackers don't get banned but the tryhards and sweat gamer who grind continuous have to suffer through their hacking 😢😢😢
Love ur vid by the way ❤❤❤❤
My friend was being accused for cheating in GTA 5 because there level was over 1000, my friend had been playing that game for years but this jealous person kept saying my friend was cheating
Not just the sweats and tryhards, imagine how many more "casual" type players spent money on a game only to get beat by cheaters every time they get a chance to play like after work or on the weekends or something. Then they would just quit playing and chalk it up to a loss of $70 on a game that's not even fun because cheaters ruined it.
It really pisses me off to no end. I know Warzone is free, but as an example, my brother and I quit playing the 1st one altogether because it just ruined any and all fun.
@@holliday5516 I hate the sore losers that are just really bad. They'll make it their life's mission to ruin you.
@@TheIrishRushin Yeah sucks to be accused of cheating when you are just locked in that one day. I had a match like that in Halo Infinite once. What's really funny is, they were on my team the very next match, and I went SUPER negative KDR lol.
@@samc9133 Funny, I've never been accused of cheating even when I've had crazy strong games and dominated everyone else. People can generally tell the difference between good gameplay and suspicious gameplay.
Meanwhile 99% of hackers are still out there vibing because they don’t stream themselves hacking
For me Nick didn't cheat, he just bending the rule..
yep. big brain moment
Same
He exploited a loophole to steal money from the other charities. The rule says if you cheat once, you get a warning. It doesn't say it's not cheating. I think cheating with money involved should be a felony. It's theft by fraud.
xd
@@mckrackin5324 Never seen someone so mad about children with cancer getting a 30K donation.
"Both Call of Duty and Twitch have a 0 tolerance policy towards cheating"
LMFAO
Nadia cheated for months and streaming 😂
@@FilipeFlemingwell she's a loser
@@FilipeFleming did Nadia-chan get banned? is that a NOOOOOOOO I HEAR? she got a spell from me to cloak herself XD
I love it when these cheaters panic , it adds to the flavor.
Heck yes! Watching cheaters get what the deserve give me a nice warm feeling.
Vanguard really has a good system to detect cheaters. Well done
Imagine being a streamer making great money, then you get caught cheating and have to get a normal job lmao
Yup most of the streamers that gained their followings from consistently dominating lobbies (especially ranked) are cheating.
Unfortunately most top players in most games are cheating and very few (if there is any) are up there due to skill but overshadowed and struggle busing it by all the cheaters.
Nearly every product now is geared to helping players cheat now... because it sells.
I wouldn't doubt if companies are producing the games and also cheats on the back end to double up $$ also.
It's glorious to see hackers get caught but unfortunately they are unicorns compared to those whom continue to get away with it thus others will forever take their chances.
The streamers should have to pay every single donation, their ad revenue, merch sales etc. etc. back when they're caught - make the consequences heavy and maybe others will think twice before grifting in such a way.
@@510Redneck who told you that shit lmao, you think they cheat in tournaments aswell? lmaooo
@@perawidmowa3822 Several of these clips are from tounaments with cash prizes and charity money...🤣
@@Instafishingmax only one, and this was not cheating by program aka cheat engine or that kind of shiet lol.
@@510Redneck it’s crazy how many people cheat at mtg tournaments, it’s funny seeing all the paper players trying to play on mtga and not making the tournament they went from 100% always there and now only 1 of like 8 they will make
6:00
"You don't need a wallhack to find the like and subscribe button and you don't need an aimbot to hit them"
This is legendary
No it’s very cringe
@@yakub888 your name is more
@@gamerinfinix8170 GAMErInfiNix? and you play cod mobile?
@@yakub888 noe
@@yakub888 Wow the hater of BE AMAZE yay😒
This is why I can't cheat because I probably out myself from my own stupidity
This is why I can't cheat because I probably out myself from my own stupidity
I cheat on FiveM mostly to troll players ( like locking cars changing car colors breaking their vehicles etc) and to get back at other cheaters or at people doing anti rp
Or just don't cheat homie. It's not worth it. If you suck, get better. If you can't get better play a different game?
@joshuasimpson6374 you're missing one key reason why they do it. It's not like they're doing it at home for themselves, they're tryna get big on socials and make money.
My son is an avid COD player, and I remember him being enraged when they’d kill him off so easily. Many seem to have been using cheating software or hacks. He never ONCE used any. I know, since I’ve watched him playing games myself, not just because I’m his mom and defending him. He’s got really good eye-hand coordination, even though he’s left handed.
Happy to see cheating is taken seriously and I'm not alone thinking its disgraceful to cheat , thank you for making the world a better place by exposing the cheaters
He isn’t though he just saying known cheaters
@@thegreatpleco3920 Clearly you don't know what your talking about.
He isn’t though he just saying known cheaters - 🤓🤓🤓
@@kaliquake04 He is not exposing them, Einstein. Hence the word KNOWN was used.
exposing is gonna do nothing
14:30 - This is not cheating this is taking a penalty. The rules stated going outside the zone would get warnings and point deductions so they were willing to take those penalties in hope of recouping them for an overall better score.
I kinda feel like he did it for content more than to win or something - all those 500k of prize pool was donated anyway
This 100%. Cheating is when you break rules that would have you disqualified. Taking point deductions is more akin to being in a sport and getting a penalty like offsides.
@@I2ed3ye Its more like taking time to run out the clock. its frowned upon and too much leads to a penalty or dq but sometimes taking that penalty is a strategic choice
@@I2ed3ye I would say it's more akin to a basketball player forcing a foul in order to stop the clock and hope to get the ball back.
Going offsides is usually an unintentional act where you either have a brainfart or the offense gets you to jump. The player didn't want to go offsides but accidents happen.
Exactly.
Stupid children whine about innocent poorly-worded-rule abuse while making excuses for guys like Dream, who made his whole career by cheating.
Idiots
Ryut's aimbot not aiming at the closest opponent, who's not even behind the door or walls and getting killed is instant karma for trying to cheat.
never cheat
always stay on the good side of gaming chaps
I always use wallhacks with bloodhound in Apex legends i don't know what it wrong with it
@@zajinramirez2780 people just like seeing people legitimately beat the game without hacks for entertainment
@@pizzapizza6144 its a joke,apec legends is a battle royale where every character has an ability and bloodhound's is seeing through walls
unless its a single player game then go wild
Mmm pubg has a lot of cheaters.... i find 2 hackers every week
"I don't know how they got there" Ahh yes, we've all had those days where we boot up a game and cheat software is just magically there on your PC for no reason and automatically running when you start playing. Hate it when that happens!
No no, it was my cat!
Wait it doesn’t happen to you? Damn.
Same thing kids say when Mom finds their stash of weed, or worse, your collection and dubious floppy things. Thats a lose/lose situation. Just save yourself the pain and rip that band-aid off. Sooner the better, you can just get on with life asap without anymore embarrassment. You'll remember those moments with laughter as a kid. And dread when your sister gets drunk and starts talking about something you weren't caught for later in life to your parents.
It was "Clara"🤣
@@nonoohoh2780 I knew it!
Honestly Dream recovered shockingly well from that.
Yea dream stans saved him.
I dont believe him that it was an accident
Awwww, little dream stan dont like the truth?
I wouldn't say that... if you ask anyone outside his specific fandom, they'll all say they hate him because he cheated and rigged the votes and whatever else.
The man isn't being careful about his reputation and even if it is his responsibility to some degree, he cannot control his fandom without causing more harm.
Opinions and beliefs will stay black/white rather than grey because people want to focus on the negatives. Dream hasn't done anything that's more or less bad than the rest of the population, it's only getting attention because he's basically on the front page of minecraft atm.
His very existence is being used by others to gain money and attention, every little "bad" thing that has ever happened will stick around for the public to see and be exploited, for the rest of his life and there's nothing he can do about it.
He donated so much money to cancer, but that's not interesting, nobody cares if he contributed more than most people ever will, that's not putting everyone else on a higher horse, so why talk about it, right..?
It just goes to show that if you have a community full of no lifes you can get away with anything sadly
"I don't care he is still the best and smartest in Minecraft!!!" - dream stans after revealed the truth
Honestly, Nick was mainly having good fun with his partner, pointing to his laugh about it, but he shouldn't really, at the end of the day, one thing many people forget is that games should be played for fun
I don’t think nick is a cheater though, he knew the rules and pushed them to its limits, he never broke them.
agreed that was how the rules were set up so how is it cheating after all they lost the point for doing it
Yea
No offense to be amazed but he acts like nick is a bad guy a little bit
@@tyupchurch3423 I do think he just goes with the (fortnite) community's reaction, which is why he even gave us the chance to say if we think Nick is a cheater or not
@JoshStar yea
That landing outside the zone thing isn't cheating. It's gaming the system. If they tell you you can go out of bounds X times and you choose to use that to your advantage, there's nothing about that that's against the rules.
Exactly and if the creators of this event didn't want players to do that, they would've instantly banned them if they were to land out of bounds and stay longer than a few minutes. Also, wouldn't allow a few warnings to repeated offenders before banning.
its also cheating
these 2 landed on the no play zone and stacking up for gun munition and material before going into battle that is a Hot Drop Zone tournament these 2 were no where to be found in the battle
it takes skills not strat to get in fight on Hot Drop Zone
@@aldrichcruz9321 wether they cheated or not the money went towards charity who gives a fuck
Nick just had fun man.
No cheating there 😂
The landing out side the specified area "cheat" seems more like a tactical play. I don't know much about fortnight or sports but don't sports teams do similar things. If it was a bigger deal would there be harsher punishments. Like the player said it was a warning and if being outside the area gave an advantage then any team even doing it on accident would get an advantage.
I Dnt c that as a cheat the rest could of did the next match to me a cheat is when someone uses something the plays or does parts of the game for them like aiming see people throw walks extra Health or invincibility
Exactly if he lands outside the map he loses points. And if they still managed to get more points than people inside the zone, they need to play better. If they wanted it to be cheating the rules should’ve been they get kicked immediately
Fortnite not fortnight
@Palu Fisiitalia and
It still gives an unfair advantage if you land on a hotdrop with no opponents to interfere with your looting time
This was interesting to watch. Definitely educated me more to keep a look out for these hackers using cheating software. It was pretty funny how majority of their followers caught them red handed in the act lmao. Keep up the good work. Im gonna go watch part 1 now :D
The dream situation should have been a quick "I'm sorry for cheating" but he had to be an idiot and defend himself against something literally impossible
He went too far that his 8 yrs old stans starts sending death threats
This is fraud. In anything else it would be jail time. Hundred of thousands of dollars earned in adrev fraudulently attained. Felony
@@natel7382 what?
@@natel7382 you have no idea what fraud is.
@Titus M it has been proven that he cheated. But it's all in the past now.
Regarding the guy beating the odds... I have that problem all the time in games, and I can't explain it.
Playing Lord of the Rings Online, I was crafting silver rings on my jeweler. Using various buffs, I got my chance of a critical success up to about 70%. That means I had a 70% chance of making a superior ring on each crafting attempt. After making 500 rings, I got ZERO superior rings.
Playing Magic the Gathering (the first PC game, I don't recall the name), I built a 40 card deck with 16 mana. The odds of drawing 0 mana in the first 10 cards is pretty small. The odds of doing that 25 times in a row... it's a statistical impossibility, yet it happened OFTEN. The AI opponent, meanwhile, was drawing absurdly "lucky" combinations of cards allowing him to defeat me by the second turn (eg. Black Lotus and a forest, summons a Sprite, then drops 3 Giant Growths and a Berserk on turn 2... which the game did 12 times in one night of playing). There comes a point where you wonder how something that SHOULD be impossible keeps happening.
Regarding the landing zone, as long as they had the pre-arranged amount of points deducted, they were not cheating, they were working creatively within the pre-arranged limits.
if they just get points deducted that's not cheating in my opinion 🤷🏽♀️
ok hes not cheating but hes just a morally bad person
@@crisyyoo4771 How is he a bad person he didn’t get the money it went to a charity of his choice.
A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him.
@@franciosdauteuil4626 Allow me to fix that.
Cheating is something that gets you disqualified, not stated up front to be a tactical option that has points deducted.
Makes you admire actual pro players even more.
They don't exist anymore. Just above average gamers. Late 2000's we're a completely different and savage breed. The ones now are just shmucks.
@@KB-kp2ozLate 2000s? I hope you do not mean born late 2000s. I am 1998 and am close to if not pro level on many games. I am the best, we are the best. You kids know nothing. When you are 16-25, your aim is at its peak and as your mind develops closer to 25, you can outplay anyone if you have +20K hrs.
@@pseudophp did I say born in 2000? Reading comprehension has fell off the planet. You literally created a strawman to argue your entire comment. Vaccinated?
@@KB-kp2oz seen rocket league esports before?
@@pseudophp No, more like 13-18/19. On average, the only thing stopping actual kids from becoming professional players is their age. Otherwise 13 year olds would clap everyone. Case in point as above, Rocket League.
Another detail about Lee's faked run is that the first thing viewers asked him to do to prove he was doing the run legit was to make certain movements during an autoscrolling section of the game (an autoscrolling section being one where the camera advances through the level at a fixed speed, meaning a speedrunner can do whatever they want during them as long as they are in the right position when the exit becomes accessible).
He refused which brought the community members to demand the controller cam instead.
Noticing a pattern of "beardy white hipster" cheating😂
Obviously the charity event wasn't cheating. The rules were clear: warning followed by point loss. Point loss in exchange for advantage. Totally legitimate strategy.
That's exactly what i think. If they didn't want them to land anywhere else, they would have said "no warning, you'll get kicked out of the tournament if you land anywhere else". Anyone who got mad at Nick for using this strategy is just a kid who is just jealous
exactly
@@hosseinenayati3318 theyre only mad because they didnt think of it first
Cheating for a charity case, that's somewhat heroic. Nevertheless it's cheating..
@@KarlMarkEarl It's not even considered to be in a "cheating" category. The rules are clear: you'll get a warning and you'll lose points if you land somewhere else. If they wanted to prevent others from landing somewhere other than the location they told them too, they would have taken immediate action, like banning or kicking them out of the tournament, like every other "cheating" case.
10:50 could easily have been done without hacks. First shot was just pre aiming and the second shot u could see the enemy’s shot go trough the smoke
True lol, but its always the good players that gets instantly banned, but when they are actually cheating they dont get banned for a year...
serious, pax didnt even hit the shot and like you say, you can see the enemies bullets from his returning fire come through the smoke
I was just finding this comment
Yeah, i came here to agree, you can see that it is a potential vantage point, you can pinpoint where they are to where the bullets come from and I dont think they 'guiltily shut off their stream' what kind of valorant steam is worth watching when the person cant play?
i agree , he didnt even connect them , he may be hacking but that clip has 0 proof of hacking
I love this. Cheaters in video games is the saddest thing I’ve ever seen. They need to be taken to court.
Ah yes cheated in cod = jail time
@@tkoqqhax3961 yeah
@@tkoqqhax3961 i agree with jailtime. People are spending their precious free time after work to enjoy stuff. You cheat you ruined other people's time. Tell me buddy. Can you buy time???
they need to be game court marshal
@@TheWindows72306 that’s too childish now u cheat in an online game and u go to jail? That’s way too much I mean that’s already dumb but then think about people who didn’t actually cheat and we’re falsely accused they will still have to go to court and crap this idea is just stupid
Hilariously enough, the guy that first called out Dream for cheating by saying Dream was getting impossible luck in his speed runs ultimately got caught cheating himself because pro players noticed he was getting impossible luck in his speed runs.
Takes a cheater to know a cheater, huh?
Honestly, the Charity thing seemed more like an abuse, or loose interpretation, of the rules than an actual "cheat". The hosts set the system up for manipulation by putting in the "warning" system. Easiest way to handle it from there would be a hard reset on the match once someone was caught out of bounds. Next time, begone. Better than just a warning.
Yeah honestly. It's so easy to abuse.
It's more like annoying but less like cheating
Technically, he did follow the rules
Designated drop....nah screw that who cares it's a charity event lol...
A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him.
Nick "cheating" in the charity event is a simple example of exploiting a loophole, nothing more than that, he didnt deserve a punishment for simply outplaying the event hosters
All it does is show how he really is in regards to the situation, underhanded or unsporting yes but technically not cheating
I guess in this case The rules are in the eye of the beholder
While it's technically not "cheating" as he was just abusing badly designed rules it's more about the moral of it. It was a charity event and he played dirty.
I don't see what nickeh30 doing as cheating but a strategy that could of cost him points or whatever. My dude didn't use wall hacks or aim bot or actual cheats.
this reminds me of a story i once heard. a man checks into a hotel, and the front desk informs him that there's a $200 fine if he's caught smoking in his room. He then promptly pulls out $200, hands it over, and says he's going to be smoking in there. the reason why i find this story similar is because the event organizers said it would be a warning for non-compliance, so the ground rules were laid out. how the participants chose to deal w/that was up to them.
even better than being banned, the panic look on their faces is ever so priceless.
i like how he showed a picture of VAC (in 2022) to demonstrate how "game companies spend years working on their anti-cheats"
I’m still amazed by how quickly everyone forgave Dream. His channel got almost no punishment from it and everyone forgot about it in 2 seconds. If that happened to anyone else, they would be disowned in a minute.
This is true. I think he got off so easy just because it was a 'for fun' thing, and he really did seem to have done it accidentally. Owning up to it was a big step in the right direction considering most people double down even when their cheats are super obvious. Dream did a lot to try and prove his authenticity with hiring an expert and spending so much time trying to figure out the problem, and not making any money off of it was a huge point in the overall look. Having dipped into other content than just speedruns also had an impact, imo. If he was solely a speedrunning channel, I feel like he wouldn't have come out as easy as he did.
His main channel is entertainment purposes. A huge majority of his fans don’t care about speed running
Unfortunately Dream gets away with a lot that he really shouldn't
Dream isn't primarily a speedrunner, he just did one. His other content is why people watch him.
I'm still amazed by how quickly everyone forgave Dream. His channel got almost no punishment from it and everyone forgot about it in 2 seconds. If that happened to anyone else, they would be disowned in a minute.
I used to play COD but when I saw countless people tracking me perfectly through walls in their kill cams I abandoned the franchise. It's pathetic how rampant cheating is throughout the cesspool that is the player base.
sounds like a skill issue
all american cheaters should say , these are all russian hackers - klara
nigga what@@yikes6969
@@yikes6969 The last time I played warzone I was killed by a person that had glitched under the map. Literally shot me through the ground. The devs are such a joke.
@@jacobhosier4568you’re a joke for playing on pc. That’s where 98% of the hackers are. Just play on console and disable cross-platform play
Cheating at online games is basically admitting you cant compete with other players, at that point you should give up and donate your gaming rig to charity.
Cheaters are the lowest form of life. What's the point, it's ridiculous and tells you all about their mental-ity.
lol
That is true
What if, and this is definitely a theoretical, I suck at games. So I fuck around rather than care about winning.o
@@rattail887 That's the fun part.
watching this makes you wonder how many of the big streams do this
Schadenfreude's reaction when the player was banned was both priceless and wholly accurate to how it feels when something like that happens.
well do you know what the german word "schadenfreude" means? It's beeing happy about something "bad"(in this case getting banned live) happening to others :D
@@linsetv He used the word correctly, implying he knows the definition, why explaining to him what it means?
@@VM-lp6rg He didn’t use the word. He thought it’s the name of the streamer
@@linsetv Ha yes, you're right, i read his comment wrong
Got to love when someone gets caught cheating they ban people from their chats, it’s such a spineless move
I think they want to keep the damage small until they realize that it is much too late for that.
Cheating itself is spineless, so at least they're being consistently terrible.
Inside they're probably going full damage control mode, hoping to sweep everything under the rug before the entire chat knows.