2020 Camaro SS vs 2020 Mustang GT.. 60-130mph rolls... Insanely close!
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Check out this amazing battle between the 2020 Camaro SS and the 2020 Ford Mustang GT in race from 60-130mph. Both cars weigh about the same and feature a wicked 10 speed transmission. Which car do you think will come out on top?
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I own a 2020 2SS and its so much fun to drive. The handling is amazing and the acceleration is great too. I went with a camaro ss cuz the market is so saturated with mustangs and chargers.
@@GT-43 Charger scat packs everywhere in my town, hell 3 people at my job have them... Have a 18 GT PP1 myself.
I agree. SS for me also. And I’m a Mustang guy.🤷🏻♂️
Yea nobody cares about it or buying for sure.
@@cocacola3269 its all good!👍
I live in Houston u see everything everyday lol
🐎🏁wow! you’re really giving the viewers what they want. be safe out there.
Definitely trying to 👍
@@RacerX9 That was cool, but I'm sure there are other tests you can do. BTW there is a built in Track app in the Mustang that can automatically record things like 0-60 or even 60-0 for break tests and other things. Just use Track mode for 0-60 in the mustang if you want to use launch control, it's the only mode that it'll work in. I personally like to do it the old fashion way, I disable the traction control completely by holding down the Traction control button for 5 seconds and then I use the Drag Mode and launch manually with feel of the G forces. Have fun out there.
Great comparison between the stang & the camaro. I bought my first mustang gt in 2000 & it only came with 260 hp / 302 torque from the factory, which is nothing these days. Next I bought a 2001 svt f-150 lightning that had 380 hp & 450 torque and I won’t lie... I got addicted to the sound of the factory blower. 🤗 Finally I broke the bank and got a 2003 terminator cobra with 390 hp & torque. Still to this day, it’s the fastest thing I’ve ever driven... love my cobra. ⚜️
Good stuff my friend.. much appreciated
I had a 94 Lightning a 97 GT a 01 Lightning and a 06 GT
There's that Prius owner with the thumbs down again. Jealous.
Haha.. maybe it was a tesla owner .. ya never know
What’s funny is I have a 2020 Tesla Model 3, 2018 Toyota Prius Prime and a 1993 300zx twin turbo with 1000hp 416ci rear mount single.
We can have variety! I liked this video.
@Jett Kasen ur right, nobody gives a damn.
Right on time 🔥🔥🔥🐎🐎🐎stang was flying 🦅🦅🦅🦅
It definitely was 👍
@@RacerX9he
Coupe vs coupe I would give it to the camaro probation by the slightest of margins 200 + pounds makes a difference nothing the less both awesome vehicles.
Agreed A10 SS would beat the 10r80 by like half a car from 60mph to 130mph👍🏽
Heat of the day for the Camaro and a convertible vs evening and a hard top 🤣🤣🤣 i knew it when he said my car is the mustang 🤣🤣
I have a Tuned Saab 9-3 Aero 2001 runs on E85 350 whp 2 711 pounds , It does 60-93 mph in 3.6 sec and 60-130 mph in 7.8 sec also 118mph in the 1/4 mile. it's a fun ride..🙂👍
had the Camaro been hard top, it would have won 💯, but love and own both cars just not in A10s
The A10 is better than the A8 in the higher speeds. The gear ratio is just better. Once the camaro shifts from 4-5 it drops in rpm a lot more.
same here, im a manual shift guy. they are just more fun to drive.
@@F_________________ nope, 8 speeds are quicker then the 10 speeds. Already tested it out with buddies. We did four 40 rolls and 8 speed took the 10 speed by half a car every single time. And went to 130 mph.
@@diegogodinez6511 I’ve done the same test. 10 speed won over my friends 8 speed every time too. Some cars just run differently. You’ll see 10 speeds put up faster trap speeds on average though. 8 speed autos have a 5th or 6th gear wall where the rpm’s drop quite a bit. The 10 speed doesn’t have that issue.
@@F_________________in my test the 8 speed was quicker. Imo it's drivers race.
Shout out to Racer X, just bought his own Mustang and still kept the race clean 👌
thank you my friend
I agree! Hard to find honest people now days. Good on you Racer X!
Yeah hard top camaro would have been a little faster.
Yup thats what I was wondering why he used a convertible
Man, the convertibles are pretty hefty (250lbs or so more than the coupe).. and they lose out on a few features the coupes have. I just picked up a 2021 ZL1 (coupe, no sunroof) with the a10.. love it. Love the interior.. Just feels like a fighter jet cockpit and zero visibility issues (for me).. I'm 6'2" 235-240lbs and it has the camera mirror and blind side detection and thus far, no problems for me... I am scared of narrow drive-thrus though, lolll.
Nice.. love the ZL1 trim for sure
@@RacerX9 definitely.. hard to beat the look of the zl1 front end.. super mean looking.
Everyone thinks its all about top end speed when it comes to racing. What a lot of people don't know is that the Camaro is a track car which is why it has such great handling and low end torque. Are we really comparing apples to apples here? Either way, the Camaro was impressive considering it had an extra 200 lbs from it being a convertible. Interesting to see what the hardtop numbers would've been.
I've owned a 2018 Stang GT, 2018 Camaro SS and now a 2021 Charger Scat Pack. Love the Scat the most.
It’s the most comfortable for sure
But the scat pack is the slowest in the bunch and the heaviest and has the least handling capability on a road course
@@rodneyloepker6344 None of that matters in regards to overall ease of use, aesthetics or how a 4400lb car can run low 12’s. Have you owned all 3? I’m assuming no.
@@Sonic_1000 I love the comfort and vibe of a Scat, yet that is really it. The weight makes it unbearable.
I think starting from a steady 60 miles per hour as opposed to rolling into it would have been a more fair test, with the Scat Pack as well. You may be accelerating faster with one car or another going 40-60 then going, just a thought. I just think a steady 60, then stepping on it would be a better comparison
i agree, a 60-130mph test should start at 60 mph and also not uphill on an on ramp!
yeah a floor it outta cruise
Phenomenal Review! Your presentation of both vehicles is simply outstanding! Keep up the Great Work and Stay Safe!
Why didn't you have the stang in sports mode? Doesn't make sense to have it in a mode for drag racing on a 60 to 130 run.
I really like the headlights on the new camaro ss. I’ve seen them in person, and when they light up, they look great!
Some people love them and I have seen others that don’t .. guess it’s subjective
I have a new 2020 1SS 1LE and I haven't found anything I don't like. Its the only car out of the 24 or so that I've bought new that I have 0 regret!
Its a weird look but its a cool weird look
@@blackice7408 most simple yet accurate description I’ve read about them
@@Mr.E22 youve gotta imagine the person that's responsible for the designs of these vehicles - at least the front and rear and lights
You know everyone that watches this owns a mustang or camaro
I didn’t buy a Camaro because you can’t see out of it. And because the refresh is buttass ugly
It does take some getting used to.. but it does drive nice
@@RacerX9 A 72 Cadillac drives nice too but........you know!! Lol
The Mustang looks like a Chinese catfish! Are you kidding me??
I think the Numbers show that the coupe would have beat the Mustang.
Fun video! Just another day at work... chillin, talking to the camera while going over 100 😎
Someone's gotta do it lol
32 valves, 4 cams, 10spd, 7500rpm RL, vs 16 valves, one cam, 10spd, 6500 rpm RL
Of course that coyote is going to breathe way better at higher speeds.
Great video! Been wanting to see this comparison for a while!
It was incredibly close.. the camaro definitely held its own
5.0l vs 6.2l 😂
@@mustangraf DOHC vs OHV
Your comparison totally left out displacement lol 16 valves one cam and just 1.3 liters of more displacement haha
@@mustangraf that doesn’t matter obviously
You compared a heavier convertible SS instead of a coupe like your personal GT. Your last test on the GT was downhill so you could claim to be faster. Pathetic comparison. Shameful. Just be honest and make equal tests.
Can't go wrong with any of the muscle cars now a days. They come down to a drivers race and at what mph you're racing at.
I just saw a stock LT1 10
Speed do a 10.51 60-130. I wonder how much heavier those drop tops are
Than an lt1, probably 600lbs or more.
You gotta do this again and not with a convertible
Chevy rules !
@Nick Crecelius Do you realize how many more moving parts are in that Coyote? The Camaro needs the bigger engine to keep things even.
Why race a convertible against a coupe? You know that’s good 200 lb difference. Camaro coupe would have won judging off this video
Thanks for this great review!
That was fascinating to watch!
Keep them coming.😁👍
Run the hard top Camaro wins everytime
I wouldn't say every time but it would be incredibly close
And this is the reason I’m buying a Mustang GT
smart man,Garbage Motors sucks!!
@@drfaticus lol I got to use that one day, I don’t like Garbage Motors or Super Slow cars 😂😂
@@dontaybreadgangtv5305 i hear ya on that ,the Gigantic Mistake and fiat dodge is junk!!
God GM just keeps making the front on the Camaro uglier every refresh. Last good front end was on the 2016 now it looks like it has a extra chromosome.
i agree 100%
This front end is beautiful. Wtf are you smoking lol.. You can’t see how much better the Camaro looks in the thumbnail pic?
@@sstevocamaro 2011 is the best looking camaro. Sadly there trying to copy the slim front end of the mustang
@@sstevocamaro yeah no I have a friend who is Chevy all the way with a 2016 Camaro SS and he even said GM has ruined the Camaro front. Looks like a weird bubble front bumper where as before it had more of a sharp fighter jet look.
Not quite, 2016 ss front is bad ass but 2017 ZL1 front end is on another level.
Awesome review Racer X! We know the Mustang is a DOHC, but what was the SS? Was it a pushrod OHV?
Yes its a direct injection .. aluminum single cam V8 .. its a beast for sure.. thanks buddy
@@RacerX9 Nice! YW Buddy! The DOHC manages to pull just slightly ahead of the Pushrod. I have to say, for a Pushrod, it's hitting close to DOHC home territory!
Probably should have tested the Mustang GT in Sport Mode since you're doing 60-130 tests. Drag Mode is only beneficial if starting from a dig.
Stock for stock they are pretty much even
Let’s be honest. No one just leaves their sports car stock. Better comparison would maybe be a FBO Camero vs FBO Mustang.
Which one would you say would be faster
FBO vs FBO a mustang. I’ve seen plenty of races of mustangs winning. Other than that it just depends on what you have. Has to be the 10speed automatic. A10 camero vs 6 speed mustang prob Camero.
Really like the color of your GT and would look awesome with some welds, or even forgestars for an inexpensive setup. It's amazing how close these two cars are to eachother, and was a good comparison. Actually racestars would also look good on it and know that you have a set for ur Hellcat, which was one of the things that inspired me to get for my Challenger and love em. Also got the 305x45 MTs on it to, and hooks well now my friend
💪🏼😎
Nice.. yes its a daily so I will have to find a tire and wheel set up that works well for the street and weather.. I have a few things in mind
Doesn’t surprise me that they are close considering the trans is gm / ford collaboration
technically its all ford.. ford owns the pantents.
@@jedishaadu8343 that's not the point of the comment. They had engineers from both work together to build it.
I know they had engineers work together.
@@jedishaadu8343 well your original comment literally added nothing and was off topic.
@@dr3nch_g0d52 just stating a fact my friend. A lot of people don't realize Ford built that transmission.
Kinda confused as to why you didn't test a Camaro SS coupe or both convertibles.. not really a test if isn't apples to apples, if you still have some guesswork
I miss these videos lol. The demon 170 vids are always a letdown. Tired of that chassis
Try the new LT1 I am curious about that outcome
I will definitely keep that one in mind
It’s the same as the ss they have the same driving performance wise it’s just the ss comes with more features
It comes down to the driver. I've beaten the SS in my GT, but it was very close. My take is that from 0-60, slight edge to the Camaro SS, because of that amazing torque (just behind the Scat Pack). But, from 60-90 or 100, it's the Mustang GT. Both are awesome, but I don't like the lack of visibility in the Camaro.
I think your assessment is right on my friend
@@RacerX9 BTW, love your videos. I want to be like you when I grow up. :)
I have an 06 Kia Rio. 1.6L n/a. Runs 87 octane, no slicks, a/c removed. Even my ride does 60-130 in 38.9 pfft mustank and crapero....pfft ..
That Mustang is so ugly.
Like the man said, keep in mind the camaro is 200 pounds heavier than the mustang, and never mind the fact that the camaro has a 1.2 liter bigger engine. It never fails to amaze me that the mustang always has to compete with a substantially smaller engine, and no one ever never brings that up. Against the chevy's its 6.2 liter against 5 liter, and against the mopars its 6.2 liter and 6.4 liter against a 5 liter. Doesn't sound all that fair to me, stop whining about weight all the time. He called this an equal comparison, thats BS.
I had to come back and make sure these two cars were stock after watching the R/T....Scat pack...Hellcat comparision,,,,...21 second for this run in an R/T.....👀
I just can’t get over that camaro back end
Nobody is forcing you to like the back end .. It needed a new look . Everyone has their own opinion and liking ! But at first I hated it but now I love it !
Love the video but kinda unfair to use a convertible due to that extra weight.
They didn't have a couple for me to use unfortunately
@@RacerX9 I know that was unfortunate. Maybe just add 250lbs inside the Mustang’s trunk lol jk
well, to be fair, the camaro was used with like 20k+ miles on it and his mustang is brand new and most likely still under break-in.
Mustang handle heat an breath better at hwy speed because of the big heads , it shines better than the chevys. You should have check the temps after both 3rd runs
That could have played a part as well
This may be true. But if you remove 200 pounds from the Camaro convertible then they are identical. Camaro has always had the edge over the Mustang. Is Ford finally taking the lead!
@@09fatbobmike the Mustang is heavily restricted factory, tune ,air intake ,an exhaust system pound for puond it will out run a Camaro with the same mods .
@@09fatbobmike man what that convertible weigh about 100 pounds more, I just check it still would have lost either that’s not a big power to weight ratio when your talking how far apart the times were it got beat by more than a tenth of a second, no 100 pounds lighter can save that
Mustang really nva lost bad the was always back and forth like come on man
I have a E92 M3 and camaro LT1
.gotta love both revs and torque!!
But comparing a coupe to a convertible smh
Both much faster than the 392 cars. Not really even close.
In the 8th the Scatpack is the king.. highway rolls not so much
@@RacerX9 8th gear?
@@RacerX9 All about what you want out of the car. The 8th mile for me doesn't really do much it's just to short. I like rolls and 1/2 mile races.
I have outrun several GT's in the 1/8th mile. The 1/4 mile is up to the driver. If you live your life from 0 to 100mph then the torque of the 392 wins. If you live your life over 100mph then the Mustang is your baby. My best friend has a GT so I have ample opportunity to test this theory. The Mustang is a high revving high mph beast. The 392 is a low end torque monster. Both are great cars either way.
@@RacerX9 my GT, 40 an 60 rolls i kill scatpacks . On the street digs with both on street tires scatpacks can't get off the line
You didn't put the camaro in sport mode plus the more weight.Camaro SS beats Mustang 5.0.You need to compare hard top in sport mode will smoke Mustang.
Nice vid. I really love the 6.2L LT1 engine. The gen 5 GM small blocks are excellent engines.
Yes they most definitely are.. the coyote is no slouch either 👍
If Chevrolet would hire the designer from Dodge or Ford, they would probably be back on top instead of 3rd place out of the Dodge, Ford, Chevrolet race (for sales).
@@justpray365 If they hired the Dodge marketing team they'd be on top.
@@rosswalther2538 It has nothing to do with poor design. The LT engines are actually more technically advanced than the hemi. Chevy just doesn't advertise the Camaro for some reason.
@@justpray365 Except the Gen 5 GM 6.2 LT1 engine is more advanced than the 392 hemi. And the 10 speed in the Camaro outperforms the 8 speed in the Challenger 🤷🏿♂️
Damn the performance in the new V8 muscle cars is so close nowadays you literally can’t go wrong. Currently own a C6 LS2 w/ full bolt ons (~430hp crank) and in the market for a new daily, any thoughts on how the SS 5.0 and 392 would compare performance wise/fun factor? Great video as always
Own a SS and have driven the other two. I'd say
Straight line: 5.0=SS>392
Handling:SS>5.0>392
Comfort:392>5.0>SS
Practicality:392>5.0>SS
Crowd surfing:5.0>392>SS
I guess it depends on what your definition of fun is. If you like carving up corners on windy roads or trackdays, get the camaro. If you just want a big, comfortable car that does crazy burnouts and is reasonably quick, get the 392. If you are a drag racer or want a Jack of all trades type car, get the mustang.
@@Jr_5646 great advice love it! Challenger & SS for me thank you! 🙂✌❤
I would rather have a C6 than any new muscle car. Atleast the C6 Is unique and has personality. Everybody Is just driving the same car nowadays.
Racer X I don't think this was a fair review considering you compared a convertible to just a non convertible Mustang it would have been more fair if they were both non Convertibles or both convertibles.
This Guy claims to be a Chevy guy but won’t admit the Camaro if it were the coupe would better than the mustang.
Id rather the pushrod big displacement engine with massive low end torque. Just much more enjoyable
Nothing wrong with that
@Andrew V All it needs is a cam kit and then do the SAME thing you said to do with the Coyote 🤷🏽♂️.
@@sstevocamaro you’ll need more then just a cam
Exactly
@Andrew V you don’t need heads to go with a cam. The stock heads flow tons of air. And at a certain point of boost ANY engine would need a built bottom end 🤷🏽♂️
5:11 its angled down to reduce glare from the rear window... Been that way since 2016.
The reality is the camaro SS and mustang GT are the true rivals. The dodge scat packs are cool af but not in the same class.
meh autos are boring! sure they are faster now but no driver needed! just basically who spins less wins every time!
I have to think that if they firmed up the shifts in the Camaro, that would be worth a couple tenths as well.
So on paper from the sounds of this the mustang gonna pull on top end but the Camaro might get it off the line but only we talking from a dig or at the lights
10 speed is the real deal. We had a 2019 1SS Camaro for awhile and there’s just no quit in the 10 speed. You could never catch it out of power, no matter the speed.
i just wonder about longevity and or any problems with the 10spds?
We had ours for just over a year an about 11,000 miles i think. No problems. It was stupid fast too for a factory stock car.
I am saveing up for a 2020 chevy camaro and they are better than a ford mustang honestly
GM and Ford co developed the 10 speed but the feel of the two couldn’t be more different.
Not true. I test drove a Mustang with the 10 speed and I own a 10 speed Camaro LT1. The 10 speed works amazingly in the Camaro.
It is a joint developed transmission from Ford and GM. If they feel different it's in the transmission tuning.
Yeah, it's different. The 10 speed in the mustang shifts more aggressive in track and drag mode compared to the camaros track mode. Almost like the trans is already tuned.
Man you can tell the difference between two cars shifting, great video 👍👍👍👍
Thanks buddy... yes the stang shifts really hard in drag mode
No kidding. I thought the Dodge 8 speed changed gears hard in track mode, but that stang was banging hard. And sounded so good doing it.
Proud of the mustangs journey
You bought a pos ford 🤢🤮👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Doesn’t the mustang gt premium weigh 4,498lbs? Not 3700
no
No it's 3698
@@RacerX9 is that not the base weight?
Well the guy clearly favors the Mustang so of course it’s gonna win
You are a good sport for doing this test these car are very close.👏💪
Thanks Serge.. it was a fun test
200pound is a big difference
Huge
@RacerX - The Mustang and the Camaro are really close. The only real advantage the Mustang has over the Camaro is tunability. The Mustang has separate exhaust and intake cams. That means you can set the timing of the intake and exhaust valves separately. Aftermarket tunes should give the Mustang an advantage over the Camaro. There are flex fuel tunes available for the Mustang. I know that Lund sells one. It would be interesting to see what the difference in performance between the Mustang on E-85 versus 93 octane pump gas.
All solid point my friend.. We are likely to find out very soon on the Mustang tune lol
Coyote picks up a lot of timing and thus performance on E85. I've seen gains of 80WHP on average.
@@ice44567 with LTH and full exhaust on E then yea
I ran a 2015 Manuel GT with e85 and intake and tune. And won him with my stock 8 speed lol we did 4 runs and 2 of them were 40s and won him by a car. And the 50s I barley won him by half a car. Mustangs do better in higher speeds. And he was on tire.
@@diegogodinez6511 that year model and the 10 speed are no where near the same. Let alone it was manual. The 10r80 gains more from mods than the previous gen. Also, stock for stock 10r80 beats a 10L90 at top end.
Not bad, but see if you can compare a 1SS coupe instead a vert due to the weight advantage
I really do think these cars are dead nuts even in this test if its the lighter camaro
Yea. I looked up the curb weights and the convertible is almost 250 lbs heavier then the coupe (3747lbs vs 3993) which is crazy. The base V8 LT1 trim might actually be the fastest 60-130 of all them. The manual is only 3619 lbs.
media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/camaro-ss/2020.tab1.html
@Nick Crecelius The LT1 cylinder bores may displace more volume, but it is far from the "bigger engine". Its not even close.
@Nick Crecelius Thank you. I thought I was going to have to give a math class on cubic inches.
@Nick Crecelius The coyote displaces more physical space...its bigger. Google pictures comparing the size of a coyote engine and an LS/LT and tell me which is bigger.
how about the LT1 v.s. your mustang GT?
Ehy do you keep doing these races how about a freaking drag race
Mustang is ugly though, looks like Sid off of Ice Age
In addition to the bloated weight, a 'loose' convertible chassis also cost power to the wheels.
The camaros touch screen is angled so it won't get dust on it just so yk
Both are very fast but I’d still take my challenger every time!
Those 200 lbs makes a big difference trust me.
Yup like having a linebacker in the passenger seat😂
It certainly can
Facts
Or big Bertha
Of course its close all about hp/weight ratio. Especially on a roll race where traction is not an issue.
Agreed
I’m a lot be hind on this one , but both are awesome by there own rights love them both
what do you think a bout Camaro 2SS and GT 5.0
Love my ‘20 Mustang GT
It’s not an accurate comparison !
The Mustang is his personal vehicle.
His Mustangs computer has “learned” his driving style.
Which may or may not include mapping for his aggressive driving.
The Camaro’s tune is “stock” and doesn’t contain those “learned parameters”.
You can bet the “learned parameters” can make up for the difference, or more, or more. . . ! !
Stock reset computer parameters to stock reset computer parameters ! !
That’s the only fair way to go !
For both manufacturers ! !
Plus . . .
Get a hard top Camaro ! ? !
This video is a waste of time. The Mustang should win in a 60-130mph run on a Camaro based on how its engineered. Especially a convertible Camaro at a 200lbs disadvantage which changes everything. Nothing learned here ...
Camaro coupe is faster under 11s
He's my uncle and I used to work there
Awesome video buddy just bought a 2019 gt mustang convertible 👍
Hell yea.. great news chad
Love the zero bias
Thank you my friend
Highway roll racing equals an expensive speeding ticket.
Drag strip racing equals bragging rights.
Road-course racing equals best driving skills.
Boost the ss and boost the 5.0. The 5.0 will put AIRPORTS on the SS, only stock motor in history SEALED from the factory with boost to run 7s in the 1/4. Before my LS guys start to shout "5.3 sbe!" I said stock sealed unopened motor. No heads and cams or anything. So once more COYOTE FTW.
That wasn’t a race between cars! Wtf?!?!
On stock wheels it’s faster in sport
Ive had the 2016 2ss, and a now a 2021 gt pp1... camaro better quality and handles better, mustang is louder, and puts a smile on my face every time... hard to pick
I personally think the Mustang looks better but track wise goes slightly to the Camaro and strip edges to the Stang
I personally think the Mustang build quality is better, but I agree. lol
A SS coupe is faster than the convertible and has a higher top speed. The SS convertible max at 155 while the coupe does 170 ish
Yes luckily I wasn't trying to hit those speeds on this one ..
The camaro ss top speed is 180
@@texasstreetkings537 the coupe coupe can, not the convertible
@@Chestnut1998 oh
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I feel like my base model gt is a little quicker than this.... I will go test it out soon! Need to know, I smash all the time and look down and notice going well over a hundo in seconds! Almost to 120 quickly a few times now!
Base GTs are kind of slow
@shanebanich1498 you have one? Same engine throughout the line up. Have taken many in the two years since this post. Even a couple gen 2 modded...
Been waiting on the showdown
For sure brother
I kinda felt the 10 speed in the mustang was a dog, I prefer a manual. That interior in the Camaro is Absolutely hideous.