Is Mouse Accel actually good for shooters?
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- I spent two months using mouse accel for FPSes. Is it actually good?
There is a new kind of mouse accel available now called Raw Accel. It plays nice with anticheats and it's got a more intuitive UI: github.com/a1xd/rawaccel
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Mouse accel resources:
mouseaccel.blogspot.com/2015/1... Download links and installation instructions.
mouseaccel.blogspot.com/2015/1... Quick-start guide to setting it up and making sure it's working.
docs.google.com/document/d/1w... Everything you could ever want to know about mouse accel and Povohat's driver.
• Povohat's Mouse Accel ... KovaaK's very in-depth video on how it all works.
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The Minecraft-style FPS is called Sector's Edge. It's in closed Beta, but I enjoyed the shooting mechanics and combat a lot! If you want to play, join the Discord and join the waiting list for a key! sectorsedge.com/discord
0:00 Intro
0:53 Why I tried accel
1:23 What does mouse accel do?
2:06 Low sens vs High sens
2:55 Why do people hate mouse accel so much?
3:14 Introducing good mouse accel
3:49 What makes this type of accel better?
4:48 My mouse accel learning experience
6:02 Did it ruin my muscle memory?
7:50 How is my aim without accel now?
9:06 KovaaK's: Accel vs no accel
9:35 Should you use accel?
11:10 Reasons to not use accel
11:41 OUTDATED, IT WORKS FINE
11:53 Conclusion - Ігри
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- UPDATE: I've received reports of people who successfully used the mouse accel driver with Valorant. I should've tried it myself before putting out the video lol. Faceit still blocks it however, so keep that in mind.
- *The Minecraft-style FPS is called Sector's Edge.* It's free to play on steam! Check it out here: store.steampowered.com/app/1024890/Sectors_Edge/
- There is a new kind of mouse accel available now called Raw Accel. It plays nice with anticheats and it's got a more intuitive UI: github.com/a1xd/rawaccel
Pinguefy “the Minecraft-style FPS is called counter-blox”
There was a pro CSGO player who used mouse accel (can't remember his name and don't follow the acene anymore).
The issue with accel is it used to be very inconsistent but you can get used ro it I imagine. That's also why optical sensors are preferred as laser sensors usually have built in accel to function iirc
@@terrycoder8328 CS accel is also a completely different beast.
You should play krunker because it's a very fast paced and flick based game
I wanted to ask if you play osu! with this program. I tried it and it doesnt seem so bad
I watched the video thinking it would be cool to try Mouse Accel and then I realised I had it on for all these years.
Man... I feel like a colorblind person watching a video about colorblindness and wondering how it'd feel like being colorblind.
😂
@@sahil1787 😭
Same
But some games ignore windows setting
@@LoopikCZE some...
2:57 ok.. wasnt expecting to see my 5 year old comment in this video. What a surprise lmao
LMAO that's insane
Lmao u still got the same profile pic
bruh
bruh
All lines are straight
6:44 That sync, god damn
No more 69 likes
what is that blocky fps game? im bored I want to now what game is that
@@deadhooman324you found it yet? If not then it is sector’s edge
Watched this video a year ago, came back today after over a year of using mouse accel in FPS games such as Valorant, CSGO, Overwatch and Apex. I decided that after me using it I would give my thoughts on how it went and how I feel about the use of accel in competitive FPS games and why now I am deciding to stop using it.
TLDR:
PROS:
-Good for arcade shooters with fast paced combat such as Apex and Overwatch
-Very versatile for how you want to use it
-Allows for more precise longer range movement and faster flicks if used correctly
CONS:
-You never get perfect consistency with it compared to static sens
-It is harder to get perfect flicks in tense situations
-A lot harder to be precise all of the time
-Good luck getting it installed on LAN machines at a tournament
-God help you if the game you are playing has inbuilt mouse accel already. Fucking NYOOOOM SPEEDS (Thanks Crossfire)
For background on me. I have played FPS games at a decently high elo since I started playing CSGO back in 2013 so I have had a good place to showcase where I started with the whole ordeal. I had been GE in CS, GM in Overwatch, Diamond in Valorant and Diamond 2 in Apex. I decided to use mouse accel because Overwatch was becoming my main game very fast so I decided the idea of having a mouse accel with it would work very well since I always had issues with mouse mat space and played many different heroes which I had mixed sens with. I used to do aim training very often on AimLab and Kovaaks. This was imperative in me deciding on if the driver was worth it over a year later.
I play with a high sens (ESENS = 5000~ in Overwatch) and always had trouble with longer range engagements since it would be hard to move my mouse just a tiny bit to keep hitting shots. My mid/close range was my speciality so I considered having my mouse accel graph focus on this with my normal mouse movements being 1.0 output to input, my slower movements being 0.7 and my fast flicks being capped at 1.3 in a linear graph.
It wasn't such a difference to deeply impact my playstyle but enough so that I hoped it would make a difference. I started using the driver in June 2020 and began my grind to get used to this new mouse playstyle. It took a while, I had some of my deep muscle memory fighting me at times but because of how I made my graph a lot of the time the normal default shots would hit their mark. The issue at first began with flicking. When I would flick I would hard over flick since I wasn't used to the change in sens. And as a flick aimer, was an issue for a while. Valorant didn't allow me to play for a while and CS FaceIt also restricted the driver. So, I moved to Overwatch
Overwatch was where the driver showed it's potential. I had up until early 2020 been a hard DPS main of McCree and Genji, but I had different sensitivities for both of them since Genji required faster flicks and McCree was more about accuracy. With the driver it meant that using the same sens as both McCree and Genji I could have more consistency since I would have my fast flicks matched to my Genji sens but then in neutral I would have my McCree sens allowing for more precision. This also meant that my flicks were getting more consistent on other characters since it matched to what I had been used to.
Using the driver I began to climb, whether this was due to my understanding increasing with joining my University team or because the driver, I cannot say. However, I began to swear by the driver throughout all of 2020 and told several of my friends about it - they didn't get the driver though. The potential was there and I was showing results with the driver. By this stage Raw Accel came out and I was able to swap to other games again since it wasn't detected by Anti-Cheat software. I was, however, dedicated to Overwatch at this point and grinded it for another half a year. Entering 2021 I wanted to compare my aim to what it was now with how I left it before. So, I booted up the old AimLab just like I had over a year ago and did the aim training again.
I know what you are saying - "But you hadn't been aim training for the year so your aim would have gotten worse". So, I did the aim Lab for a month, consistently. And the results shown a dramatic decrease in my overall aim.
It was hard to pinpoint overall why my aim had gotten worse but I ultimately put it down to the fact that I could never get a perfect consistency with the mouse accel. Even if I moved the mouse in the exact same manner every single time there would be minute differences which would throw off my aim. The benefit of having flat sensitivity is that in panicky circumstances you flick your mouse and shoot, every single time it is the same distance, every single time it is the same. My flicks were not improved with the accel, the tracking had not improved with the accel and surprisingly enough, my long range also had not increased with the accel. This last point was the most shocking since it was one of the major reasons, I swapped to it.
Ultimately, I decided myself that despite the benefits the mouse accel had shown and how much I enjoyed using it for the entire year. For me, it just didn't show good results. I don't speak for the entirety of the population. Some love and swear by mouse accel, but after a year of use, I do have great aim with it still. However, I feel that before I had it my aim was more consistent and realistically the accel was just substituting for me changing my sens on different characters but with different steps. So, from this week I have moved back to flat sens since I had quit Overwatch until it gets better again. Here's hoping I can get back to my prime like I was over a year ago.
This was my rant on how I spent a year of my life trying out mouse accel and how I feel it realistically, didn't impact my aim for the better all that much. As the video said "You will only ever be as good as you actually are." And turns out, with aim accel. I am not good. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk.
great review but I suggest you repost this on reddit where more people see this because reviews are always helpful
I enable mouse accel for a few weeks, then disable it, and I've been like this for 1 year now, I see no major difference in my aim with mouse accel or not, but in 2D games like osu and aim trainers like kovaaks and aim lab (yep, they're 3D but you're basically aiming at a wall) I've noticed that... you actually do much worse than with a linear sensitivity, sometimes you end up in very awkward positions with your wrist fully extended and your arm touching the wall, its just a disaster, you'll always change your "neutral aiming position" with mouse accel in a 2D enviroment, so I don't think you can see real improvements or results of using mouse accel in those kind of games
@@78diegox The main thing about games like Kovaaks and OSU in regards to aim training and just precision in general is that it doesn't usually test your aiming ability with a decent amount of the modes (in regards to Kovaaks) but rather your comfort with your sens. OSU mainly is about matching your clicks and flicks with when you are hovering over the target similar to flick training but in a 2D environment. The downside of using accel in this situation is of course the one I mentioned before with flicking that means you cannot have precision as easily. OSU is one of those games where mouse accel is not made for it and it really shows if you tried to play a game with it. At least in my opinion.
I love these comments where the commenter gets self conscious about how long their essay got and add a lil extra touch to the end of it XD
man i do that all the time tell ya wat
@@CarryPotter007 Yeah it is one of those moments where I was like. No one will read this whole thing anyway, so fuck it. TedTalk joke.
I learned how to play with Windows Mouse Acceleration, so imagine how powerful I'll be using a good accelerator
omg same
similar story of when i bought my new laptop, i accidentally turned on mouse accel when setting my pointer speed, ive been using it for almost 4 months now
i had it on for about six months when i put it on accidentally
Helltaker pfp
Me too
"You will only ever be as good as you actually are"
Hacks: Hold my coffee.
Rabbies
What? How do hacks make you good??
Pepethegeek、 Hacks make u become shroud on steroids thats why
Stormoto your gameplay might be enhanced with hacks but your skills wont, that doesn’t make you good
It's so funny when u catch someone legit cheating but they're still bad
There is a successor for povohat's mouse accel - rawaccel, it's working clearly on raw mouse movement so it has no problems with any anti cheats
No way? Someone should do a UA-cam video about it
+1 raw accel user
If anybody is wondering: Sector's Edge is now free on Steam without needing to get any beta keys. They had officially released it to be open on Steam on Oct. 30
I was wondering what that game was called. Thanks
Thank you for your knowledge
Was wondering what jt was, sad that the game is completely dead
@@eivye It's not
@@adamhenrikson4549 what do you mean it not? The game has only 24 current players according to steam charts.
24 fucking players seems pretty dead
*"You will only ever be as good as you actually are."*
Damn that hits deep
me: cries in low rank fps
But you still can improve!
The thing most people forget is that you do routine(including gaming) at an optimal level your brain is comfortable auto-piloting.
IE if you don't make explicit effort to improve or face challenhe from better players you will quickly plato.
Make that effort. Try thinking mid game at how to do things better. I was legit shocked when my logical part of conciousness straight up admited I am doing stupid mistakes on auto-pilot like feeding kills in disadvantegous engagements. Remembering to aim for the head mid gunfight netting a win. Thinking on how to juke the enemy around an obstacle and so on. Once you start doing that your level will catapult from the average.
Also remember that there are two parts of your mind: logical and rationalizational. First allows you to analyze things and make concious decisions, use it more. Second will try to shift the blame of mistakes on outside factors like teammates or luck, don't give in to it. There is a reason someone plays like a pro and someone doesn't, and it is not DNA unless you're a disabled person.
@@DzinkyDzink DAMN RIGHT!
@Noname Nolife damn explains why im stuck
@@DzinkyDzink uhh... rational IS logical. i think you are talking about logical/rational and emotional, no? logic = applying rational thinking
why is this guys voice so calming like what, hes just so calm when he was explaining everything
Brah, I'm high af atm. And I'm in my car and it has a luxury car and it came with premium sound. I'm like melting atm.
@@MrWowh who asked
@@iivo1049 LMAO
he is inspired by 3kliksphillip, that CSGO youtuber
😳
I come back to this video every so often purely for nostalgic value at this point. I first watched this video right as it came out, and it was the first vid of Pinguefy that I've watched. Ever since then, I've used mouse accel, and that was almost 4 years ago. This video came out at the perfect time for me, specifically during that period I've really wanted both low and high sens at the same time, more so because I've played a couple totally fundamentally different games, each requiring different sens, but also just wanted the benefits of both.
Lotta time passed, RawAccel came out, still using mouse accel.
Thank you Pinguefy!
4 days into raw accel and never turning back. your content is so well put together. keep up the great work!
u still on raw accel?
I don’t know why I watch these I play on a controller. You’re just really entertaining my guy
When I just got a pc I found him like 3 days after, And that’s a very useful find
i play on controller too i just feel its very refreshing seeing stuff like this ig its just something different idk🤷♂️
Same
Joooiin uuusss
True
other people: yea this feels good
fps players: OOOH YEAAAH DAT GRAPH
I've used it for a good few months now, and I won't go back. My sens was always either too fast for R6 or too slow for Apex, and InterAccel solved that problem. It didn't take any time at all to commit to memory, and it feels just as natural as no acceleration before.
Me too, for almost 1 year I have been using mouse acceleration in csgo (the version of the game) and the truth is that I feel that month is more comfortable like that, when I started, they told me all the time to deactivate it, but since I started it When using it, I feel that I can have a better positioning of the crosshair when playing and curiously more control when doing flicks or spray transfers.
I started using this and it changed my game 180 degrees. I finally feel as comfortable on mouse and keyboard as I did on a controller. PC gaming just wasn't fun for me until I started using this accel.
I saw pingify at the local Walmart once he kept trying to sneak out the door around the theft sensors with his cargo shorts pockets filled to the brim with snickers, but the guards kept stopping him. Eventually he said haha you got me guys but then he did what can only be described as a “sick juke”. He broke the security guards ankles, causing him to fall down, and threw a snickers bar (king size) up over the sensors and caught it on the other side at a dead sprint. I haven’t seen him again since, but I’d like to think he’s still running.
Truly inspiring
amazing story, really deep and emotional
awesome
movement kinda nice tho
@@Pinguefy what game is that at 3:45
Video: Mouse acelleration sucks
Me: wait, thats why im suck.
My pc: mouse acelleration [off]
Why is this so true
Sometimes the game turns mouse accel on in its code or settings
Me but it was actually on and now my aim is 10 times worse but it’s prolly better that I learn how to aim without windows mouse accel on
@@xltcrusher yes absolutely. Since mouse accel is so ridiculously inconsistent, with minimum practice with ur normal sensitivity ull already be a lot better
Rich Patootie I’ve definitely noticed a difference
i've been following u for 3 months now and i'm so happy this video blew up. Keep it up man!!
I feel like a just watched one of those rare and in-between very enjoyable documentaries
I've played with windows acceleration for ever and never noticed.
I did not mind it too for the longest time, but when i turned it off my aim became way better and much more consistent. It might be that windows curve is shit
@@TheCarnivorousCake Idk i tried turning it off and my aim went everywhere. I'll probably still turn it off.
Tbh, when i disabled the window acceleration, the mouse speed was so damn slow, that i had to max out the mouse movement speed, untill i turned the mous accel back on, and i still have max mouse speed and accel on, but my aim is quite good, just, the fps is my problem of having quite a bad aim
I had it on and I also didnt know
Its been 2 days since i turned it off and i am used to not using it now
if it's actually better with mouse accel it'll be the most unfunny joke in my entire life
5 hours ago
why 5 hours ago and for your information i just realized i had been using mouse accel my whole life and its really good, just because your shit at it doesnt mean everyone else is
well, gonna give it a try
i almost thought the vid is going to be about windows accel
@@himeshadesaram9263 hehe funny joke
Make sure you don't lose your settings if you get used to it.
I started using the mouse accel driver after watching your videos and I used to play with a high dpi for team fortress 2 but always struggled with tracking enemies or doing accurate flicks in other games like CS and Titanfall 2 with the R99 but it is like you said and now I got consistent tracking and kills with automatic guns. I’m glad I found your video and I’m surprised that I didn’t find out about this sooner
This video was really interesting, I think that mouse accell has a similar stigma to motion aiming in games. It's been shunned due to bad examples but when implemented well and learned it can bring a real benefit. I would recommend watching Nerrel's "Motion Control and the Rejection of Progress", I found it really interesting.
One point to be made for not using mouse accell is availability, if someone is using different machines then mouse accell might not always be available so the argument could be made it's better to learn without it so you aren't dependent on it. Although your video shows that aiming skill is fairly transferable between states so it shouldn't be a massive issue unless at tournament level.
Thanks for the video.
his personality is out of this world...
his mindset is literally perfect
nahh, but thank you
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The amount of people realizing they had mouse accel on scares me lol
i just realised i had the shitty microsoft one on and i have no idea how i got decent aim out of it. i understand getting pretty good aim if you know it is on, but i thought that speed didn't matter. now i need to learn to aim without it
the windows acceleration I've become dependant on :'( Literally can't use the pc without it on, even after a week of trying, impossible...
wait what how can i know if i have it on for example in cs?
muumipeikk o go to your settings and go to the “Keyboard and Mouse” tab, and find it, and check if it’s off
muumipeikk o and for windows, ill tell you tomorrow since rn im in bed
I wouldn’t call it muscle memory for fps games. Very few people could look at a position, close their eyes and flick to that position. I would call it eye-hand coordination. Thats why you get used to a new sense very fast and why you managed to learn mouseacel in just 2 weeks
nah its definetely muscle memory with flicking
@@the1ultimatet1u49 yeah but most people aren't good enough to consistently flick. Only some pros on some games
@@the1ultimatet1u49 not really, if it was, great aimers would be constantly paranoid about how dirty their mousepad is, if their sensor is slightly dusty, if their positioned at the exact ideal spot at their desk, if theyr monitor is at a specific distance. But in reality its not a big deal because your brain doesnt "remember" a sens, it might get used to a sens and find it the most comfortable but thats because you only used those specific muscles, for example someone who plays on high sens mainly uses their wrist and fingers while a low sens player leans into their arm to aim. and when they switch sens theyre using a muscle to aim that they never did before, infact its pretty helpful to train on different sensitivities for faster improvement. Personally im more indecesive with my sens than a toddler at a candy shop but im still fairly decent (not great, many areas to improve at, esp smoothness) at aiming
Bro u make such great video that I heard about your video on someone else's video in the comments someone suggested him your video.. thats great content. Keep it up.. old video but you kept it fresh with your comment..
Great to see the video released. Probably the best intro video to accel I've seen, I'm glad you had fun trying it out mate. :^)
What is that pixel game he was playing
@@peytonsmalls2725 sector edge
What was that quake/overwatch looking game you were playing (6:04 to 6:12)
@@honeyyy1913 that's Diabotical. It was in a closed alpha a while back and is now due to release later this year
Surkey thank you!
Can we get an F in the chat for everyone who didn’t know they had mouse accel on until now
Better now than ever
i was one of those and i've been playing FPS games for over 4 years... But after this video i doubt if i should turn it off or not :/
That would be me lol
bruh i had it on this whole time im an idiot
@@gabrielmoreno3027 atleast turn off the windows accel
Whoa man. I'm new to your channel but I'm so glad I found it! This video explains so much. Thanks!
2 years since this video came out, damn
This video made me realize how good mouse accel feels, i remember when i first tried it and it just felt natural only a couple of hours later, nowadays it isnt my default but i still use in some games where mouse accel really helps me (or atleast it feels like it)
thanks for making this video, really showed this new world i had no idea about before
the quality of ur vids: 10/10
the quantity: 1/10
still worth it
lmao yeah, I am horrible with keeping regular content and also doing streams. That said, I've got some ideas for videos that take a while to actually accomplish, like getting good with alternate keyboard layouts. I'm not the type to put out something half-baked!
@@Pinguefy yea your right I should tune more into your streams lol I just keep forgetting. also, the unregular content upload doesn't bother me too much cuz the quality is great and if I want to see more I can just go on your twich so keep doing what ur doing lol ily no homo
Quality over quantity. And these videos are top quality
ikr he's not the most consistent but the quality makes up for it
@@Pinguefy You should try the azeron gaming keypad. I think if anyone can figure out it's potential, it's you.
I love this channel. He's a guy who always wants to learn new, wants to do more stuff and MASTERED it. If he wants to go for something, he does it. And he doesn't stop after just one day like me. What i wanna say this guy needs more subs and more views. Keep it up man!
I want to see him become a Pokémon Master next.
I reckon he could go pro in any game if he wanted to
I've always played on PC with enhanced pointer precision on. For oldschool COD-style shooter it just works for me, because I've learned to flick to turn and then get the nice slow sensitivity for tracking targets.
Been creeping, you just got a subscription with your music choice 👌
"So did it ruin my muscle memory"
Ad: "Lets play raid shadow legends now."
"wow i never noticed Linus had a monobrow" LOLOLOL
lmao
hearing u say 'stupid low sensitivity' & showing the literal exact sens i used (1.6 @ 300dpi) brought back memories of returning 2 fps games after a few yrs of inactivity & developing actual tendonitis in my shoulder after 4 straight hours of playing
i never knew it was actually that hard, i couldnt raise my arm 4 a full day, i always thought my friends were joking when they said it was like throwing a punch every time u flicked
I'm playing Valorant (the mouse accel works here btw), and I had low sens, which was good for my aim at mid and long distances, but close range, moving around with agents like Raze (who can kinda fly by using her blast packs), or clearing angles was a nightmare. But now I've started using mouse accel, and it's just what I needed, so thanks for this video. It helped me a lot
It very interesting to see an in depth FPS aiming technique video with such calm atmosphere. Kinda reminding us that these games in the end should still be fun to play.
Watches whole video with no intent to ever turn on mouse acceleration
*watches whole video without even owning a pc
@@andrevicente4262 same
@@lnderriegel same
same. imagine using that garbage lmao and trying to justify it. actual dummies
I just wanna know if different drivers can make it useful lol
Yo this video was so influencial for me. I come back to it every so often because I love it so much haha
I really liked the mini-fragmovie at 6:02
GG man, nice video.
It pisses me off how good you are. Like Its gonna take me years to get there. But that's the name of it. No one starts off amazing. I can bet it's taken you years to get there. In that case I'm not mad. I'm just gonna get back to practicing!
hell yeah :D A lot of my FPS skill comes from TF2 pubs, so you can definitely get good faster than me lol
@@Pinguefy I have 3k hours on tf2 and 4k hours on cs and I'm pretty sure your aim is better than mine. Now I kind of regret wasting so much time chilling in the tf2 mario kart map and playing hide and seek in csgo, can't say it wasn't fun tho
@@gooseintheshell then why refret it
because in the end I didn't learn anything new or improve on my skills. I only had a little fun that I now barely remember about.
@@gooseintheshell always do what you enjoy tbh. It's just video games at the end of the day, I just happened to enjoy being a huge tryhard.
I had been playing with mouse acceleration for almost my entire time using a computer, I didn't realize that mouse acceleration was labelled as "enhance pointer precision" so I thought it was always turned off. In games, I would always turn mouse accel off because I thought that's what I had been using. So, I was just constantly switching between mouse accel on and off when playing games to going to my desktop.
Same
Same. 4 years.
Same..
Same 2 years then i stopped at 2017
Most games will use raw input and ignore anything your windows tries to add to your mouse data. Although keeping it off is always safer.
My whole life i played with that "enhance pointer precision" thing on, and i never knew it was mouse acceleration....
m y g o d
Hello fellow Serious Bomb pfp enjoyer
I used mouse acceleration at first (unknowingly may i add) and it felt good to be able to add an extra variable to mouse movements. Because mouse acceleration makes sense sort of. When precision aiming you you move your mouse slower and when turning quickly you tend to turn as fast as possible without knocking over the g-fuel on your desk. The reason why i switched it off was because it feels more arcady when it is turned off and i liked it that way.
i've been using window's accelerator for maybe 15 years? i don't have much desk space and much room to get a big desk for huge mousepads. but now that i know there's other accelerators that are made for better customization i'm gonna have to try it out! great vid btw
Same bro...plus i really hated to drag the mouse all the way(as with precision/accel disabled).
RIP as soon as Microsoft changes the acceleration curve
Anthony Varela wdym?
@@kreempa.i.8349 ?
In the end humans are highly adaptive, I consider every method still a method, it's not always the best being the best for one individual. And if it isn't: it can be one day.
Another great video mate! My hands are starting to maybe show early onset arthritis so I might be looking at acceleration going forward and this video helped dispel some of the worries I had making the change. Also, I wondered if you'll be streaming anytime in the future. I see that your twitch VODs are about two years old now :D
4:57 “linear curve” lol
curve can refer to straight line when talking about graphs
@@chikennuget3634 how can there be a curve on a linear graph?
@@cringekid8435 'curve' in a scientific sense doesn't literally mean a curved line, it just refers to the line on a graph
@@chikennuget3634 why don’t they just say line?
@@cringekid8435 no idea lol, my guess would be that "line" can refer to the axis or something, and "graph" refers to the entire thing with the axis and the curve
Dude, your choice of music is impeccable ! Gamers always put garbage music like pop remix's and stuff, but this is great
I spend a lot of time thinking about it and trying things out. Thank you :D
@@Pinguefy I specifically meant the frag movie music, the rest is cool but barely hearable
When you've had your friends tell you mouse acceleration sucks for like 2 years and you finally just figured out why you suck at aiming
HAHA SAME
Is it good or not? Should I enable it?
@@joostwagelaar8837 Not the windows default one. inb4: I also just found out my mouse accel was on because I forgot to turn it off on my new pc lol
@@ellielionheart8083 Man I was so sure I had mouse accel off, no wonder my aim felt inconsistent LMAO, I completely forgot to disable the windows one
Now you have to kill them. what a shame!
hey pinguefy, i just wanted to thank you for shedding some light on this topic. After seeing your video I realised that I have been playing with the windows mouse acceleration on for my whole life. I have installed Raw Accel and I feel confident in saying that it is no different from novohat's version (that I have also experimented with, but due to faceit blocking it i had to drop it)
I’m so happy I found this video, I used to play tf2 sniper with accel on and would destory people, after hearing it was bad I had turned it off and for years never reached that level of long distance flicking control and Precision again. The ability to get people in your peripheral with shots is amazing without the need for a high mouse sense.
I used to use mouse acceleration when I was playing CS 1.6 and Source way back when. And it was better than with it off.
The reason? I was using a *trackpad.*
True gamer
I use a trackpad. Dunno if that's the reason I'm still silver elite master, but mommy never raised a quitter!
I went even further and turned on the momentum feature in the Synaptics driver, which let me make the most out of a small touchpad at the expense of having to decelerate the mouse pointer to aim.
update : just got to gold nova
Oh snap for a little while I played Quake 2 and CS 1.6 with a trackball you just reminded me. That was weird getting used to
Got dammit Piguefy, making me question everything I’ve ever held as gospel when it comes to shooters. I’m never going to try accel personally, as I use a relatively high sensivity where a wrist flick will give me a nice 180 turn, but now you’ve put me at a permanent state of unease. As soon as you said that you would keep using it, I already knew you mindfriggled me for the next 6 months. However, this is totally offset by the fact that this video is a masterpiece just like you and your whole channel. Stay awesome
Same
I stumbled upon a tiktok about this topic last night and I had to check. Mouse accel was on for me and I had been chaning sens for Siege, Valorant and CS for too many times before. Now, my inputs feels consistent which I hadn't had before.
After watching this video i realized I had windows mouse accel on.. I've never gamed without it I dont think. Turning it off made my inputs feel so much more intuitive. I'm now setting up a raw accel profile to see if i like linear more. TY!
honestly this guy could chat about water and it would be zen af lmao
now that he's seen this he should make a video about what water is best for gaming
That's actually really interesting because I never really found something I'm entirely comfortable with. I either have to sacrifice precision for speed or the other way around. I'm definitely gonna try this out and see if I like it or not. Thanks for bringing this up and opening discussion about such a generally disliked thing!
My thoughts exactly, I used to play with a really high sens, I lowered it and saw quick improvements since I was more precise. Right now I still have it fairly high but I don't want to lower it further because it just doesn't feel right to me. I'm very excited to try this, could be the key to achieving the precision I want while still being satisfying.
My sens in warzone was 850 dpi and like 11 ingane sens, now i have went down to 800 dpi and 8.33 ingame sens im more accurate now but i dont feel confident in cqc fights anymore
It IS awesome, if you like the idea, you can be just as consistent with it as with using no accel. If you have parameters for it. And yes, Quake Live's implementation is indeed robust, it would be so nice if every game had an implementation like that. : (
Btw I like how you spew cold facts with no bs; you just earned a new sub, bro.
Cheers,
I've ben using mouse accel for a while now, and i just cant go back. it's just like he said, your tracking and general aim doesnt feel different, but for fast movements like flicking or for mobility it feels amazing
After this video, I checked my windows mouse settings and realized that I have been using mouse acceleration for all my life and never knew it :D
Same
Bruh moment
How does this happen? How do you not notice? Lol.
@@nickthompson1812 you get a new computer and it comes on by default.
I just found out that my entire life i've been using mouse accel by accident. I thank you.
Same, and I am LE in CSGO... Imma try no windows mouse accel and see what happens.
if you used 'm_rawinput 1' then your windows settings don't matter in cs
@@RoryT32 Man, what about my mouse control panel (I mean it was with the mouse not windows one) is it working with rawinput1 ? Or for example in apex legends when mouse acceleration is off
I love this already, I've only been using it for 3 hours, tho I've just come from ps to pc so I'm not quite used to keyboard and mouse, so probably the best time to start using mouse accel
I've been saying this for years and trying to get people to try Povohats driver with no luck. I am a pretty low sense player and always have been really good at aiming with low sense but when becoming interested in TF2 I noticed that it was almost impossible for me to properly rocket jump cause I just couldn't swing my mouse that far of a distance that quick. I started using Povohats driver because of that and it just completely blew me away with how much it improved my aim overall not just helping with rocket jumping. It's really funny seeing your settings screenshot and how it's so similar to mine it's just a few decimals different.
I feel my knowledge of things I don't really need just grows with each passing video. You Sir, are a blessing!
Guys after sitting on the idea I followed in his footsteps. The adjustment period for me was roughly 2 hours of aim trainers. Been using the driver for roughly 2 weeks now and I've broken all my records by roughly 25% (which is insane as up untill that point I reached a skill ceiling so to say). I'm a far better flicker than tracker but mouse acceleration has changed that. It gives me both the speed to track up close and accuracy to track at ranges. For everyone sceptical: try it!. If i can adjust within 2 hours im confident everyone can in at least 3 hours or so :D
I may idk I only really play rainbow so I don’t think I need it
I've been using mouse accel for about a year now and I love it, I've yet to find my curve so yes I do change the values a lot but I really like the feeling of it and maybe ill stop changing them and actually use one curve for a longer amount of time. Thank you for making me relies that I cant just change the curve all the time. Btw I use a more main stream mouse accel software called custom curve.
6:44
*I'm about to end this whole mans career.*
And that beat drop on the headshot 😳😳
Holy. I didnt realize.
Wtf how
I came to see what mouse accel does, stay for the soothing voice
amazing video, really deep and informative. research level. thanks.
“You will only be as good as you actually are” such a good quote
Really good video, most people who I talk to about mouse acceleration tend to be heavily biased towards having it turned off. The fact that you decided to try using mouse acceleration for 2 months after playing without it is insane, so you have my respect in that regard. You also raise a lot of good points, but in regards to the windows mouse acceleration I felt like I could share my experience with it, since I definitely didn't find it terrible, but it had it's shortcomings for sure.
I used to play with windows mouse acceleration since I was 10. I'm 22 now and turned it off a couple of years ago (playing without any kind of mouse accel). Since then, I've found that making large changes in aim with my mouse (flicking to the edge of the screen for example) is not really any harder or easier, and still comes down to muscle memory in the end. However it is definitely more exhausting to do repeatedly without any kind of mouse acceleration.
The biggest difference I found was in making small pixel precise movements (for example, hitting a very small target at long range when you are already aiming in that general direction). With windows mouse acceleration turned on, it is difficult to make these small adjustments in aim quickly, since the difference between aiming too much and too little is extremely small, making it difficult to just react and hit the shot (though not impossible). Without any kind of acceleration, I've found this kind of movement to be a lot more consistent (though still hard).
Additionally, making a smooth consistent movement with your mouse is extremely hard to do with windows mouse acceleration enabled, as you need to maintain the acceleration that you initially start with in order to keep it smooth. For FPS this generally applies to tracking your target, but can be offset by changes in movement and distance. As such, I found that this primarily applied to playing OSU! where specific beatmaps require this kind of movement.
Overall, I don't think it matters too much if you have windows mouse acceleration enabled or disabled, as it comes down to some form of muscle memory in the end.
love how your channel cover about FPS
but with new, fresh contents ,some questions we never asked but curious about
tks
what's tks?
I used to play on the old PC of my mother, And I used windows mouse acceleration for about two years and I got very good with it. Back then, I never thought about aiming and different kinds of aim styles and what so ever. I then watched some overwatch aim tutorial and saw that acceleration thing and turned it off. It felt so weird. But I learned something off my "mistakes" and so I'm able to get along new sensitivitys and game feelings fairly fast
Very good informational video, Thanks for the info. :D
You’re very close to 100k can’t wait for you to hit it
LMAO WHAT? WHEN?
NAME SHOW
Right now, I guess
5:25 irl dodge
Those are the best lol, I used to do that with tf2 rockets
I use Raw Accel on linear acceleration, mostly because I enjoy whenever I move my mouse slow, the acceleration doesn't jump so I don't skip pixels because of having high sens/dpi, and being able to quickly flick at will, there's also the rotation offset option and angle snapping feature in Raw Accel I rely on to get near perfect lines so I can have quick cross-hair placement
I'm loving the background music HAHA!
Me out here without knowing that Enhance Precision was on for 2 years.
i just turned it off...its...weird
same mate lmao
Same boat
Same. I turned it off and it doesn't feel right. I keep missing what I want to click on.
you don't have to turn it off
I'm using mouse accel because i don't want a really often change my sens, and i love low sense + high sens in the same time that's it
it's also a godsend for dual and triple monitor setups for productivity. if i had to drag my mouse 4 times over the whole mousepad every time i want to go from far left to far right of the screens, i'd just fucking end myself tbh.
So you use this software for mouse acceleration?
its a simple as getting a mouse with dpi buttons on it.. u can set the dpi settings and attach to a color, then switch from color to color based on what you're doing.. eg. i play on 800 dpi for gaming, and i like 1000 dpi for using the computer.. i have 800 setting tied to blue, and 1000 setting tied to red... very easy to switch back n forth
@@BLo0DLuST831 but then it's awkward to aim at the icon, unless you're suggesting constantly changing your sensitivity whenever you want to click on a button
I’ve been using accel since my start of pc games. I’ve always thought it was better? Being able to flick with only a short distance needed was always good for me
This video helped me realise I had Windows' Mouse Acceleration enabled this entire time. Thank you.
I just wanna say thank you for the math rock
hell yeah
Pinguefy subbed for getting me into a new math band, and the beautiful sync with the gameplay
@@Pinguefy for a sec I thought I was listening to covet
Gotta love that likes to dislike ratio! That's when you know you've got a high-quality content creator! Looking forward to seeing everything you do!
well, i think i've been convinced that i should get this mouse acceleration because i have a limited space to use my mouse and have been struggling with the low sensitivity setting i try to force on every shooter game not working for non-shooters and screwing up my aim, due to having different settings functioning for different games, thank you
Dude you are so inspiring it’s amazing
6:45 I almost shit myself at how crazy this 360 wall run was.
I've had my mouse accel on for my whole life and didn't even knew this option exist.... wtf my life is a lie.
オフにして改善が見られましたか？
Same lol
Same
Mouse acceleration and/or smoothing annoys me to no end and throws my aim off, so if the game does not allow me to disable it (such games do exist) Igo rage on the forums.
@@SinaelDOverom tf are those games?
Bruh i had the default windows mouse accel on from the begging and now I can't play anything without it. That is the power of getting used to something.
7:12 pathfinder starts getting fried. Pinguefy: cut the cameras
11:50 someone is watching kliksphilip :D
Everyone should.
For years and years Quake players used mouse accel, a lot still do, and some of them have AMAZING aim even by today's standards.
Yup. You aim with your eyes, not with muscle memory. Try closing your eyes before you flick to a target and see how often you hit. It's your EYES that tell you when to pull the trigger
@@ashscott6068 It's not as simple as that - eye-hand cordination is trait that was relevant for human activity long before pc games and researched in psychology for example. It's about how both your eyes and muscle memory work together to allow precise movements - aiming purely by looking at screen without trying to instictively predict where the hand movement will place your crosshair would mean you have 0 muscle memory and would be really slow ( compare how people that never used a mouse slowly adjust the pointer based purely on looking at it to how people who used a pc long enough to develope some of that memory instictively know how far to move the hand to place coursor on something and adjust with a second smaller movement to correct for the inaccuracy of their prediction). It was pointed in the video it's not about acceleration or lack of it but about predictability and patterns you can learn - so if the accel is linear it's predictable and can be learned the same way as mouse without any accelaration. The problem is that most popular way of implementing accel is non-linear curve.
@@desolunatic5045 A+
@@ashscott6068 try to flick without arms
I realized that I was using mouse acceleration for a long time, and had gotten really used to it. I tried turning it off, but my mouse movements felt like they were too fast. I play at 400 dpi. I forced myself to get used to no enhanced pointer precision, and my first shot accuracy is actually much better. I'm able to 1-tap more consistently in valorant, but in Windows, I still have to get used to my pointer movement being faster. So I may continue without mouse acceleration and try turning down in game sense and see if my performance as a whole increases or decreases.
pinguefy:"you can get good with anything"
me:*uses a leather couch as my gaming chair and the leather armrest as my mouse pad and a tv as my monitor*