I just wanted to say thank you for putting this fantastic work together. After watching this I purchased a ALP pinball with vibs board and the haptics kit from Buy Stuff Arcade and this is really awesome to have in my basement. We have come a long way since playing these games in arcades and bowling alleys back in the day. How cool to have something like this in the basement and for a really good price in my opinion. Your videos are thoughtful and easy to follow I Love the virtual table with all the different games. Thanks again!
Due to your valuable time, attention and tutorials, I got FX3 running on my ALP!! Thank you!! Once I disabled vsync in nVidia control panel and FX3 as I discovered on reddit, the flipper lag disappeared. Sorcerer's Stone and all the others look and play fantastic! Love to hear the dude say "You are not welcome here!!"
Man... i really wish they had USB access in back of the machine or underneath it because those wires look like ASS!!!!! lol. Other than that i'm looking forward to getting one of these, and setting it up with a PC eventually, likely going to swap out that horrid backbox for the $500+ version offered on buystuff. I nearly bought a really expensive custom machine but i hear it's best to mod these yourself and learn the ins and outs of the software so they're easier to troubleshoot when things go wrong. PLUS if i can't manage to get things running well enough, i'll always have the default tables and optional Zaccaria/Taito ones to fall back on.
It would be ideal to have the USB+HDMI at the back. At one point I was thinking of designing a 3D printed cover (to hide the wires), but when I asked for feedback few seemed interested in it. I may do it anyway, at some point. Not sure if you've seen this guide, but you may find it helpful: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1
Great detail on the setup from a completely new Pc. Only thing I did differently was being this machine was dedicated to my ALP, I set my monitor 1 to portrait. Having to navigate pc / steam sideways until I get into fx3 or steam zaccaria just didn’t seem worth it. Luckily it works flawlessly.
yeah i followed your setup and it is a pain having to sit beside the alp and navigate landscape. ive got the hang of using the trackball and can get around the desktop for minor windows tweaks before i launch the game. i use teamviewer as per your recommendations when i have to do some more major files tranfers etc. wouldnt it make more sense to setup alp playfield to portrait and then tweak settings in fx3 to show playfield portrait? would be easier to navigate in windows prior to launch. will this work or screw things up?
I have a Radeon RX570 video card. I followed everything most everything in your video, but cant get the backglass to display at the same time as the table. The only thing I have setup different is both HDMI connections directly from the video card. I have the table directly input into the video card, and the other VIBS into a HDMI/DVI converter. I can get the backglass to display if i switch the connections on video card. Do I need the station setup like you have?
Some AMD cards may have difficulty as discussed here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#PC_Requirements . You may want to adjust the AMD Software settings to see if you can get it to work. In my early testing, I started with an AMD GPU but wound up switching to NVIDIA for similar reasons.
Thank you Joshua! When arranging the displays, move your laptop display to the far-right. Far-left should be your Playfield monitor. If you have a VIBS board and connected, it would be in the middle of the 3. See the 2nd point here for more details: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you so much! So I ordered my Vibs board just recently and I am waiting for it to be delivered. I wanted to see if I can play FX3 without the VIBS board. Also, I was able to get the FX3 to show on my atgames monitor. However when I use and of my buttons to play. Nothing seems to work. I have to use the laptop to play while it shows on my machine. Any help? Also.. thank you so so much for reaching out and your help!!
No problem, happy to help out! Did you connect a USB-A to USB-A cable (also known as OTG) between the ALP and your laptop? Here's a quick setup that should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Quick_Setup . A powered hub is only needed if the OTG connection isn't connecting to the PC (some PC's may need it).
VIBS is required only if you want to use the backglass on the micro. More on VIBS/Micro here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro . Steam Deck with the ALP (HD) is here: wagnerstechtalk.com/sd-alp , basically the same on the micro.
I built a pin cab a few years ago and run about 200 tables on it including FX3. This cab however is a game changer and makes the world of pinball more readily available to people. I might just sell my old Cab and purchase one of these. Your content is really well appreciated and has given me the urge to start playing pinball again. Many thanks for posting this tutorial. Tony. 👍👍
Thank you Tony, I've been totally impressed with this machine. I have some additional modding videos coming, one later this week. For an overview of some of the different ways to use this machine you may want to see this guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1 . Just as an fyi - if you decide you want to pick one up, there is a good sale starting 6/16. BitPixel HV, VIBS Board, Arcade Control Panel, etc. are some items that you may want if you decide to pick one up. More details here: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-news . There will likely be another sale in ~3 mo., so no rush if you miss this one. No idea what will be in the next sale.
@WagnersTechTalk You have one of the best setup videos around. The holy grail of ALP setup videos! Can you please help with something that happened with my Pinball setup? My setup was working great but then for some reason Pinball FX3 stopped displaying on the ALP. It shows up on my laptop but now on the ALP I just get a black screen with a URL on the side of the screen that says: c:\program files [x86]\steam\steamapps\common\pinball fx3\data\steam\pinballfx3.[bmp, gif, png, jpg, jpeg] No idea what to do about this. Please help. Thanks!
Thank you Joel! I think what's happened here is that Windows got confused with the monitor/HDMI arrangement. Try plugging the HDMI connections in the same way you had it working before. Then restart the PC and see if Windows restores everything back. If not, the black screen you're seeing is the backglass display. See the 2nd point here to make sure your displays are arranged properly: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations . The first point here has a .jpg file that I created as a default backglass image until a game is selected: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#FX3_Troubleshooting
Hi - added the LegendsPB-WTT config file to JoyToKey documents folder, but the settings don't appear when I open JoyToKey. Will they only show up when connected to the ALP, or should I see them on my PC when it's not connected to ALP? Should I remove JoyToKey Config 1 and replace with LegendsPB-WTT. I can't seem to get the settings from the new config to show up.
Hello there, I see the JoyToKey Profile I downloaded/copied listed. It's highlighted when I open JoyToKey. The flippers are still not working ( not a single button or flipper is working ) . What could I be possibly be doing wrong ?
Sounds like something with the OTG connection. Please see here for some tips that should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting (the 3rd point is how to check)
I'm trying to set up FX3 on my Legends Pinball, but all I get on my playfield is my computer's main home screen in landscape position. It does not move, just shows same thing. Does not show my mouse and nothing works. My back screen works perfect and shows everything I do on the computer, mouse works, etc. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I'm using all the cables you used when setting the Legends Pinball to Steam Deck in your video about 10 days ago. Thanks in advance. Gary
It sounds like your displays are oriented properly, but double-check the settings for the display here (2nd bullet point): wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations . Also, make sure when you pressed the Channel button you set things like this: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Switch_HDMI_Input
I've been using that file that you talk about on here for joy2key, it works great, unfortunately my plunger is broken and I'm forced to launch the ball using the enter key on my keyboard, i have the arcade control panel installed on my legends pinball, is there anyway i can change the button on joy2key to launch the ball with like my X,Y OR Z top buttons? Cause they don't do anything in fx3 right now anyway, and i dont think i can launch my wizard power either on fx3 with this setup the way the file comes, please help me out if you can, really just want to be able to map my wizard power button and especially the launch the ball button to my control panel so I don't have to use my keyboard at all anymore while playing fx3
My usb 3 port on alp has not worked since day one. And still doesn't work even after a replacement of both boards and the cable. Support and myself are both confounded by this. Nothing in usb 3 detects. The hmdi input and usb2 ports do work. Because of this. My alp tables are saved on usb flash drive plugged into usb 2. To avoid a bunch of back and forth. I thought a powered hub plugged into my usb 2 would be the answer. While the flash drive loads, steam does not detect my alp controls when the OTG cable is plugged into one of the hubs 4 ports. I have to have OTG direct connect to pc and ALP, making my usb hub useless. Any advice? Is your hub connected to your ALP with your OTG cable to pc in one of the ports? Or is the hub connected to your pc with the OTG to ALP in one of the ports?
The powered USB hub is connected to the PC, in my case. I would try plugging the USB drive and OTG cable into this hub: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L32B9C2 and the OTG cable from this hub to the powered USB Hub on the PC and see if that works. Just a thought, I've not had this issue so can't be 100% sure if it will help.
So Mr. Wagner what do you think of Zen Studios new upgrade to all their pinball tables & the fact that people have to re-buy all their tables for the new generation..& what’s your take on the ticket system they’re trying to implement..?..thank you‼️ HollerBack Wagner
First off, I'll be honest, I've not tried their new system/games yet (I did buy Indiana Jones for FX3 though and it's a cool table - but overpriced). I know it's been almost a month since it's release, though without the cabinet mode feature being available (at last I heard, should be available at any time) I'll wait until it is. Their ticketing system sounds like a pain and I'm not jumping at buying the same tables I already own just because a different publisher has released them. I'm sure the rendering engine will make a difference and that I'll be digging into it at some point.
Love your vids .. but how come your vpx and fx3 tables look so bright on the ALP?? Mine look a bit dull and dont pop anywhere near as much as yours do .. is there settings or anything anywhere to adjust brightness settings??
Thank you! How do the stock tables look? If they look bright/colorful there, it may be a setting in the graphics card you're using with the ALP. That's where I'd start looking.
My ALP controller is not being detected by Windows. It's acting like I have no controllers plugged in at all. When I plug the USB cable in, it makes the windows chime and opens a folder, so I know everything is connected, but I can't figure out how to get it to work. Any ideas?
Sent a comment earlier. Got everything working, but has flipper lag. Problem was with display settings. Thanks Have a steam deck on order, maybe that will fix flipper lag.
Interestingly enough, I really didn't feel any noticeable flipper lag on the Steam Deck. Here are some things you can do to minimize flipper lag on the PC: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Minimize_Flipper_Latency
I followed your tutorial for setting up Joy to key it is not picking up the other file that I downloaded now as far as pinball fx3 ever since I downloaded that other stuff I no longer have any controls on the pinball fx3 I have the Legends pinball with the arcade stick I went into steam and try to set it up like an Xbox one controller. I also followed the pinup popper install video I first did this a few days ago and it worked fine now that I've installed pin-up popper I have no controls on anything that work only the keyboard and that's not what I want to play with since I have an app games Legends pinball machine. One issue that I have also had is when I did have it actually working it had no sound and nothing on the back glass and when I would back out of the game the screen would just continuously scroll very fast
Hi Daniel, not sure what other file that you downloaded but the correct profile will need to be selected in j2k for it to work. Also, if you define the button mapping in two places, you'll of course get double entries when pressing buttons. For more information on j2k, this section should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#How_to_Setup_JoyToKey
Joytokey folder only shows a notepad file. I can open Joy to key though no problem. The legends pinball file does not have a controller next to it. I still dropped under the joytikey file and nothing... Any help would be great
Be sure that you copy the file after exiting j2k (right-click the icon on the taskbar and terminate). Copy the profile, then restart j2k, should pick it up then.
The sound will come through the primary HDMI (playfield). You likely need to click the small speaker icon on the taskbar and set it to the primary HDMI. Also, make sure that the HDMI cable from the graphics card is plugged into the top port on the ALP. Also, see the last point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#VIBS_Troubleshooting
Do you need 2 hdmi ports, as well as a usb 3.0 to usb cord on your pc to play fx3 with backglass display? My pc has 1 hdmi port, 1 ethernet port, and 3 usb ports...... I don't have any usb-type c ports either.
If you want anything to show up on the backglass while connected to a PC, you'll need the VIBS board and a 2nd HDMI port. This guide goes into much more detail: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1 . Yes, you will need a USB cable (A-to-A) between the PC and the ALP, it's what allows the flippers, nudge and ball launch buttons to work.
Developed an entirely new guide for Pinball FX here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx . However, the good news is the Xpadder application/profile mentioned on this guide also works with FX3/VPX/FP. Hope you find it helpful!
Ok needs some help. I had this running on old PC. I have another PC that I cannot get the OTG controls to work and its making me nuts. Yes I use ugreen and atolla hub. When plugged in it just does not show up. In PC device manager how and where should it show up? Do you have video how to test with joy2key, I read it on your page but a video could help for visual learners. ?
Make sure you have the OTG cable plugged into the USB 2.0 port (white connector on the ALP). It should work, everything I know is here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting . Sounds like you've got the hardware you need, just double check all the connections.
The VIBS board is only used to provide the ability to use the backglass with a PC (or Steam Deck, etc.) It has nothing to do with Internet access. If you want to connect the ALP to the Internet, you have two options: WiFi or Ethernet. If you have a connected PC, it would also typically use either WiFi or Ethernet.
Congrats, hope you're enjoying it! Sure, I have that pretty well documented here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#PC_Requirements May want to check out some of my other ALP guides here to help you get started: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides/#Legends_Pinball
Thank you! I assume you mean the AtGames Legends Pinball Micro? If so, yes. Remember, what you see in this video is coming from a connected PC so it would be the same regardless if it's on the larger ALP or the smaller ALPu. Hope that helps!
So I followed these directions and it’s working, but, sometimes when I launch FX3, the backglass screen is not recognized by FX3 and it’s blank, despite the playfield working. Is there a way to insure the backglass always shows when launching the app?
The blank/black screen on the backglass simply means the artwork is missing for the selected table. Look closely and you'll see a path with a file name mentioned. You can locate the artwork for the table, rename it exactly as what's shown and place it in that folder and the artwork will show up for it.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! actually the screen isn't black, it just shows the rest of the extended desktop.. meaning that FX3 is not using both screens... I need to figure out why it won't launch and use both screens all the time... Any ideas?
I'm having serious flipper lag on my ALP with FX3. So bad, no table is playable. When I connect the pc to a monitor there's no lag at all. What am I missing? JoytoKey doesn't seem to do anything. I have to use the pc keyboard. Again..am I missing something? Please help.
Make sure you have the latest firmware (there was a patch that went out Sat.), see if that fix the issue. Last bullet here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#Operation
Can someone please help me? Where in alp is the option to connect via ethernet? I clearly can see the wifi option but that's it. I have ethernet plugged in but no internet.
If you're using a PC playing FX3 and need internet, the PC itself will need to be connected either via Ethernet or WiFi. When in OTG mode, the network is supplied by the PC and not the ALP. However, once out of OTG (playing stock tables), just plugging an Ethernet cable into the back of the ALP is all you need to do on the ALP itself. Make sure you see the link light and some blinking activity lights. If you don't, could be the cable or connection to the switch/router. Hope that helps!
Thank you so much for making this. I am a little confused, how did you set up the second HDMI connection into the VIBS exactly? I rewinded the vide 20 times and I still can't understand. Did you somehow do USB from your computer to HDMI or did you split the HDMI. I am so excited to set this up but also so so very confused
Hi MichaelB, for the second HDMI connection to the VIBS board I could have used a DV to HDMI adapter on the PC. But, I was previously testing another PC (which didn't work out) and on that PC I had used a USB 3.0 to dual-HDMI adapter. My thought is to use the 2nd HDMI port at a later time for a dedicated DMD. The HDMI Adapter worked great on both machines (the one I returned and the new one I setup recently). So, I stuck with that. All the non-AtGames hardware (and software) can be found on this page: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Additional_Hardware . It should help quite a bit, especially the JoyToKey tutorial which basically you download the LegendsPB-wtt archive and everything will be pretty much ready to go. I did make a minor change to that file to allow using the A/B button on your Arcade Control Panel for a Lef/Right mouse click. Hope all this helps!
I'm trying to use Koy to key for my Legends pinball hD, I copy the WTT config file, paste in, it shows up in JtoK but its empty, all fields blank, uninstalled and reinstalled multiple times any help?
I tired that snd unisntalled and reinstalled, finally uninstalled, rebooted, installed, did not start, rebooted, loaded in the config file, restart, launched and it worked.....I'm sure the bulk of the restarts werent necessarry, but that menthod has worked in the past, having some lag issues with the flippers now, Vsync off in game abd CP, the back box quit working so I'm using a monitor plugged into the vid card for backglass and DMD.. Thanks! @@WagnersTechTalk
See 09:19, you want your playfield display to be on the far left and the backglass display immediately to the right of it. The numbers aren't what's important, it's the arrangement of the displays is important. You can click the identify button to see which display is which. Your laptop display will be on the very far right of the other two. Also, make sure the backglass HDMI is connected to the VIBS HDMI input and that you've flipped the VIBS switch button.
This tutorial is awesome except I can't get Joy2Key working with my AtGames Legends Micro Pinball machine. I used the file you suggested for mapping buttons but nothing worked. Is there an update to the key mappings for the Micro or is there another solution besides Joy2Key that will make the buttons on the Micro work? Thanks!
j2k definitely works with the Micro as well, I used it with a Steam Deck running Windows. After copying the file, make sure that you exist/restart j2k. A few sections that should helop:wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#JoyToKey and wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting . Alternatively, you can map the buttons directly in Steam, if you prefer.
@@WagnersTechTalk Most mappings seem to work from Steam directly without the need for JoytoKey - except my right flipper button which isn't working for some reason.
hi, at around @9:39 in the video you are showing how your main screen (the playfield) is set to landscape. I currently have my backglass screen (on the computer settings) set to portrait mode. And I can see everything on my computer (on the pinball arcade screen just fine with screen #1 being set to portrait). And I even have Pinball Arcade up and running using the joytokey, with this configuration (my #1 screen set to portrait, and my #2 set to landscape -like yours). So I am not sure why I would need or want to have my #1 screen on the PC, set to landscape....when it seems all pinball machine games will need the primary PC screen #1 to be in portrait mode. I hope that makes sense... Also if I left the screen #1 in landscape mode then it would look sideways when viewing it on the Arcade Legends pinball backglass (hence why my screen #1 is set to portrait mode currently). I have a feeling if I dont have the same settings as you showed in your video for the PC screen configuration, then when you explain all the cabinet mode settings in the Pinball FX 3, those settings would not work for me....since my screen #1 is already in portrait mode....So I was just wondering why you would not have have your screen#1 in the PC settings to be in portrait mode??? thanks
That's correct, in the guide you'll find landscape is how it's documented. Like you, I started with Portrait as it seemed to make the most sense. However, as I began setting up PinUP Popper it was clear the landscape would provide the ability to see the entire screen (in portrait, while trying to configure anything things won't fit properly). It became very problematic to launch VPX and not be able to see the entire screen or get much done in Windows. I also find it easier to use TeamViewer to remotely connect to the PC used by the ALP to configure it and it's easier to do in landscape orientations. I also found the community recommended using Landscape for similar reasons. So, went that way and simply rotate the display in software when the tables are launched. This has worked out well and the numbers I show in the guide should match fine if done that way. But, they won't if you stick with portrait. You'll have to do a bit of tweaking for the backglass/DMD positioning.
@@WagnersTechTalk OK, I think I see what you are getting at. I would rather follow your directions, since it would save time in trying to figure out all the dimensions etc as you explained in your video. I could also use VNC or teamviewer etc, to remotely connect to my machine just like you mentioned, and operate it in landscape mode (without worrying about how it looked on the atgame pinball screen (if that happened to be turned on when I was messing with Steam and like Pinball FX 3, etc) And then, as you clarified in yuor comment above, I just use the settings within the software (Pinball FX3) to change Display settings. That makes sense. The only other thing about using Vertical mode on my Windows machine is that I want to play stuff like Worms Pinball and maybe some older games too (that may not have fancy Display settings like PFX3 has). So maybe in those cases, I can just rotate the settings of my primary monitor (and therefore the backglass) to play a game like Worms. Only time will tell, once I experiment some more with some of the more esoteric games like Worms and even some possible Gog.com pinball games like Epic pinball
Can you do this with the VIBS so that you only have the play field but the backglass is just not functioning? Also, JOY2KEY says trackball mimics mouse movement, I don't have a trackball on my ALP, how do you control or can you still use your mouse.
Sure, you can set it up such that everything goes to the playfield. Just skip the parts that discuss the backglass setup. To use the keyboard+mouse, you'd have to connect one to your PC or use the Arcade Control Panel (what this guide assumes you have). More on the ACP here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#Arcade_Control_Panel_Installation
Why are you saying the AMD APU will not work with the VIBs board? Is it the Vega graphics or atgames implementation? I was looking at some of the 5600 and 5700GX builds that ETA Prime was putting together. Don't want to waste my money on a a small PC build if it won't work.
I can say the BeeLink mini-PC I initially started with did not work with the VIBS board without using an external USB Adapter (I used a dual HDMI adapter). There were many reasons why I returned it, mainly the GPU performance was terrible (and can't be upgraded, VEGA 10) I could see screen tearing during screen transitions. Many others have stated they had issues with an AMD GPU + VIBS. Wrote up a troubleshooting guide here to assist: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#VIBS_Troubleshooting . I won't say it won't work, but didn't work well for me at all and don't recommend it based on my personal experience.
Don't understand the first bit about the drive backup? What drive? I just connect up the laptop, hdmi and USB to the pinball legends and play it with joytokey and FX3. FX is way too laggy compared and I cannot get it better, despite killing v sync etc. I am running 4070 and an I9 on my laptop with 16GB Ram./
So, how do you send the images to the backglass. Followed the video completely, but this seems to be left out. Where is the step showing the image being sent to the backglass display? I can't seem to find this information anywhere, in any guide. It just seems like you set the settings, and it works upon launch. However, I'm getting nothing on the backglass except the static windows display.
Great video. Quick question. I only have one hdmi on my PC and want to install vibs board. Is there any way I could use one of my DP slots as a extra hdmi out? Thank.
I've not tried it, but pretty sure it will work. You'd just need a DP to HDMI adapter cable between the two and make sure you have the video signal set at 1920x1080, 100% scaling, landscape, etc. (guide and video mention this in more detail).
Love the video. Very helpful and my games are running great. Unfortunately the sound doesn't work well. It is low volume. I have my pc volume at 100%, the Legends volumes settings all the way up, and all of the FX3 volume slides at high, but still get weak sound. Tried switching the HDMI cable but no help there. Don't have weak sound when playing the games installed on the machine, but also get weak volume with Visual Pinball and Future Pinball. Any thoughts? Could it have anything to do with Nvidia settings? Thanks for any help you can provide.
Thank you Douglas, happy you've got everything working! The very last bullet point here is if there is no sound: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#VIBS_Troubleshooting which doesn't seem to be exactly the issue you're having. But, it reads: No sound when using FX3/VPX or Future Pinball (OTG) - click the speaker icon in the lower-right of the taskbar in Windows. Make sure it’s set to output audio to the primary HDMI output (your backglass). Once set properly, the audio should play through just fine. I'd double check the playfield HDMI connection is the primary HDMI, then adjust the volume control in Windows and see if that helps. If not, honestly not sure what may be the cause. If it sounds fine on the ALP itself but weak audio only when the PC is connected, it's something on the PC/Windows side that I've not seen. May just take some additional tinkering/searching to find a solution. Sorry I may not be very helpful in this reply. You can also ask your question on the Legends Ultimate subreddit here: www.reddit.com/r/LegendsUltimate , good chance someone there has had the same issue and can be more helpful.
When I connect my pc to the agl, the display will not show up on the cab. I am in otg mode my display settings are 100% and 1080p. My MacBook works fine. Not sure what the issue is with the pc
Connect the HDMI/OTG cables to your PC, power off the ALP, wait 10 sec. and back on and re-try. As long as the display is set to 1080p and 100% as you said, should show up. If not, double check the main playfield display (far left display) is set the same. Maybe you're looking at the Backglass instead? Hard to tell.
@@WagnersTechTalk so I hooked up another monitor to my pc and I got it to display as the second and it looked great. I switched the alp to be the main display and unplugged the second monitor from the pc and my alp screen went bonkers? I don’t really understand and the resolution automatically switched to something other than 1080 too I’m at a loss here
I assume you're asking for the ALP HD model (not 4k). If that's the case, I have some information and suggestions here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Chapter_5_PC_Requirements . Those suggestions are older and not intended for the 4K machine. Though, the Skytech PC shown seems like it may work fine for 4K, I've not personally tested it. If you're looking for one that is more future-proof, I'd recommend posting your question here: www.reddit.com/r/LegendsUltimate The reason for asking on reddit, there are many that are already using different PC configurations and can provide better responses. I wish I had a bunch of machines that I could use to perform benchmarks, but I don't.
Hello Wagner's Thanks for the set up. I am however getting 1 problem. My backglass still shows black screen with location path. Yes I have vibs. What do I need to do to fix this?
How do you clear the controls in Steam Fx3? They are already set by default to the keyboard and mouse. I read your instructions and it said to clear the controls if they are set, in order to use Joy2key
Thank you so much for the videos! Couple questions... I finished my haptics and it works GREAT but in OTG mode the exciters don't seem to be working. On the original tables they work great. Secondly when installing the vibs board. I am able to view my desktop perfectly on the backglass but no images. (FX3) Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Very welcome Michael. I'll point you to some info. to help: 1. OTG Mode - It may be that you didn't press the switch button to swap from original tables to OTG (PC Audio, also here wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-haptics/#Troubleshooting or here if it's VPX that's an issue wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-haptics/#Option_1_Haptic_Effects ). 2. No artwork on backglass - see the 3rd point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations Until you select a table, you won't see any backglass artwork, here's one I made up that you're welcome to download (first point/link): wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#FX3_Troubleshooting Hope that gets everything going for ya!
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you again! Im sooo close, as the backglass is the only thing im still stuck on. The cabinet settings inside FX3 didn't work BUT when i inputted the settings on at games it put me close. The screen is solid black and the top shows the jpg switching through tables at the top but no image?
You could do the same thing on the ALU 1.1, just don't use the cabinet code (won't look good on the ALU) and don't worry about setting up the 2nd screen. The rest of the stuff may apply, might need to tweak the JoyToKey profile for the ALU as well to work with the pinball kit. Hopefully some of that is helpful.
got fx3 running thanx to your walkthru so thanks for that. only thing im noticing is that sides of the playfield are slighly cut off. some tables worse than others. i cant even see the shooter lane on indiana jones. thoughts? just wondering if normal or i need to tweak some settings
Great news Jay, happy to hear it was helpful to you! One thing I can think of off-hand is to check and make sure both displays are scaled to 100% in Windows. During the initial setup, Windows may try to scale it to 150% which might explain the issue you're seeing. See the 2nd bullet point here for more details: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations
Great video. I’m getting an ALP tomorrow and wanted to do this but it seems I need a dedicated pc. I have a high end gaming PC but it seems like I would have to change steam settings and monitors every time I go between pc gaming and playing fx3? That seem accurate?
Yes, that's accurate. You may find it better to have a dedicated PC for FX3/VPX/FP on the ALP. If you haven't already, may want to see this: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1 , it will cover many upgrade options that might be helpful to you.
@@zlanders77 Sure, I've read that as well. However, the problem with using steam directly is that it won't help with VPX/FP. I have a single j2k profile which works with all. If you were going to use FX3 exclusively then it may provide better performance. I have virtually no noticeable lag on my machine. I did optimize my machine, based on information here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Minimize_Flipper_Latency However, definitely set it up the way that performs best for you. I choose to go with j2k for various reasons, one stated above the other is that the information provided in the guide can get anyone up and running far faster/easier than explaining multiple mapping configurations. I may add more options at some later time, but I've been pretty happy with j2k myself.
So followed the guide and no video on my pinball table. It has sound but just a grey screen. I’ve emailed atgames they said my best bet is to check with you. The cord is fine I can plug it into my monitor it works fine. I’ve check all settings they are where they are supposed to be.
If you've hooked an HDMI cable from the primary HDMI output from your PC and plugged it into the top HDMI Input port on the ALP, pressed the Channel button and set the input according to this: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Switch_HDMI_Input you should see the video signal on the main playfield.
Make sure the video resolution on the PC is set to 1920x1080 when connecting to your external monitor (not 4k). If that doesn't help, try a different HDMI cable. If neither of those, may be an issue with the HDMI input on the ALP.
Awesome, glad to hear you're good-to-go! Hope to have more guides available for more fun ways of getting the most out of your ALP! I appreciate you watching/using the guides. Don't hesitate to let me know what you want to see in the future.
You only need a cabinet code for Pinball FX3, in Pinball FX you can immediately activate cabinet mode. More on that in this guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks, looks like my bestbuy USB-A to USB-A cable didn't work and is the last piece of the puzzle for me. Waiting on the one you linked on amazon to come in a few days. everything else looked good though. hoping i dont need xmapper unless im using the other two pinball systems - which it sounds like could be a bit of a pain to setup?
Yes, I've heard from others that the Insignia USB cables don't work for whatever reason. Spent a week with one individual trying to narrow down the problem and the cable was it. Give j2k a try first, if the performance is good great. If not, Xpadder is another option. You can also map the buttons directly in steam, but I've had issues with it in the past.
I don't have a 3 screen setup, so can't tell you exactly. But basically, the 3rd screen would be on the very far right and you'd need to change the dot matrix positioning values according to your display resolution, etc.
The numbers aren't important, it's their arrangement from left-right. Playfield, Backglass and then DMD (left to right). Make sure are scaled to 100%, 1920x1080, etc. as mentioned in the guide. Hope that helps!
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! I just bought an ALP so there is a learning curve! I see there's a box for "live stream" so do I put my Twitch credentials in and then hook the ALP to my capture card somehow?
I don't personally use Twitch, but after you enter your credentials and enable live streaming it will stream directly to your Twitch account. There won't be a need to add a capture card. I tried it with YT years ago and that's how it worked then, but haven't tried since.
@WagnersTechTalk I'm so thankful for your video. I've ran into quite a problem with the display, however. When I hook everything up, the backglass display shows the main screen and the main display shows what should be on the backglass. My laptop only has two USB ports and one HDMI. So I bought an HDMI to USB adapter and used both USB ports and the one HDMI port. Did I do that incorrectly? Why are the videos on the backglass and main displays switched? Thanks for any help you can provide!
Hi Joel, I think the problem in this case is that the arrangement of the displays is wrong in Windows. Click the Identify button, there you'll likely see the backglass as 1, Playfield as 2. Instead, this move the displays around such that the playfield is on the far left, then the backglass, any other display to the far right. More on the settings for each on the 2nd point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations Make sure they are fully aligned at the tops of each displays (don't want them crooked in anyway or it will throw things off - straight line at the top of each display).
@WagnersTechTalk Thanks. So, I checked out the display and it shows I have three displays. The first box says "1/3" and the second box says "2". When I plugged in the USB and HDMI from the Pinball machine it only showed "1" and "2" and worked fine. I bought a USB to HDMI adapter to connect the VIBS board to the laptop and when I added the VIBS connection to the second USB port that's when it showed 3 screens. My laptop only has 2 USB ports and 1 HDMI which is why I got the adapter. Thanks for your help.
@WagnersTechTalk Hi! How would I get my Display options to show two screens instead of three screens please given my above reply. Thanks so much in advance for whatever help you can provide me! I really appreciate it.
You could use the HDMI out from the laptop as the playfield display, then one of the other HDMI ports for VIBS. Anything connected to an HDMI port is going to show up under Windows. I hope this answers your question. From the adapter standpoint, only one of those should be needed/connected.
Thanks for this video! Just way out of my league.. I think I might try, but will fail! Old school guy that has owned OG coin op pins back in 1999 ; Frankenstein, Elvira, Tales from the Crypt, Dracula, Freddy, etc. and had to sell them off in 2018 due to life! I just bought this Atgames pinball in hopes to get these games back to play! I was way off! I guess I will stick to the games it came with which are pretty cool! If anyone can help out with a easier way to get the games mentioned on my Atgames Legends Pinball, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks again!
Hi Eric, I totally get it. That's part of why I created this guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1 . It meshes other guides into one that steps you through everything. Please start at the beginning here, take your time and I hope it walks you through the process in an easier to consume manner. It won't be that hard, you should be able to get going with FX3 within an hour or less.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks for the kind reply brother, I appreciate it! I think I'm going to give it a go due to your positive response and Digital Victory on youtube along with many positive responses on VP Universe! You guys are way cool and so stoked now to make it happen! Thanks for all your hard work to help out others, so admirable! Happy New Year man!!!
Bonjour Mon Ami. Merci pour vos vidéos. J'aurais besoin de Vous SVP. J'ai cassé le connecteur vert - vidéo 6:39- ( réf :HA 8819-STB-V1) qui relie le tableau arrière au flipper. Je ne peux pas en trouver en France. SVP aidez-moi. Merci.
Très bienvenu et merci d'avoir regardé! Il existe un certain nombre de distributeurs en Europe. Je ne sais pas lesquels ont la disponibilité des pièces, mais je vérifierais avec ceux répertoriés en Europe ici: www.atgames.net/arcades/shop-now/. Ils peuvent être en mesure de commander des pièces spéciales pour vous.
Bonjour, Je souhaitais CHALEUREUSEMENT vous remercier pour votre intervention. Je vous confirme avoir reçu la pièce expédié par Just For Game ce jour. Un peu de soucis avec le transporteur mais Just For Game a été SUPER. J'ai passé réservation de la carte VIB'S et vous REMERCIE encore une fois. Joël
Do you have no table / ball lag or stutter at all when using fx3 and vpx on OTG on the ALP cab? Fx3 and vpx run so smooth on my laptop .. but when i plug the hdmi into the alp there seems to be slight ball stutter etc. The flippers work fine. I can't get my head around it. Any help please?
Thansk mate. Im just baffled .. like i say everything runs perfect on my laptop .. like a dream. Then as soon as i hook up to ALP with the hdmi lead thats when im noticing ball stutter ( not flipper lag )
I thought about designing a 3d printed cover for it to hide them. Created a poll if there was interest, only 30% were interested so I never did. I may do it anyway at some point, I'm with you on that.
Thank you kindly! The PC I purchased is no longer available (Dell G5 Gaming Desktop PC), you can find the specs for that as well as a similar, yet more powerful machine here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Suggestions . Also, if you find a different machine and want a good idea of how it will perform, see the grey box here for a link: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Chapter_5_PC_Requirements . That link will allow you to enter the specs and get an idea on how it will perform with FX3.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you! I want to remove the dot matrix size in UI/steaming but it will not allow me too. Any suggestions because I could not find it guide unless I’m missing something.
The link above shows you what to do. Are you saying that didn't work? If you're talking about the black rectangle, that's in the artwork itself. You'd have to find your own artwork that doesn't show the black box area.
Thanks very much for this guide, really helped me set up my ALP with Pinball FX3 - working perfectly. Was expecting it to be a pain but with this guide I had it working in no time - cheers!
You can, just make sure the playfield and backglass are arranged at the left and the laptop display is on the far right. Some additional information may be found here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Chapter_4_PC-Based_Virtual_Pinball_Overview
I'm unable to configure OTG mode and can only use legendslink to stream locally (main board won't give any type of signal). This is causing major issues with mapping buttons (unable to correctly use JoytoKey with LegendsLink). Could someone please post their working steam controller config?
At this point, I've not used Legends link myself and can't offer any substantial recommendation. You may want to ask this question at the Official AtGames Pinball Fan Page (Facebook). You can find links to that and other resources here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#Resources
Using a GTX 1650 Super, the FX3 guide does link to the PC Requirements guide (here wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#PC_Requirements ) as it's shared by both FX3/PinUP Popper guides. I tested a BeeLink mini-PC first, not happy with it and returned it. Then went with the Dell/1650. Hope that helps.
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks for the details. I was wondering about the 3 HDMI (table, back box, DMD). You mentioned an option for use a “Dual HDMI Adapter”, the question I have is, will it know (the card or the adapter) to send the back box down one HDMI and the DMD down the other HDMI. (I can’t base my plans on theory.) ;)
I'm not using a DMD currently connected to the 2nd HDMI port on the adapter, I can't 100% answer your question. Although, I have no issues with the PC consistently sending the signal to the backbox so I presume the same will be true if/when the DMD is connected to the 2nd port.
Hi Jon. I’ve been looking at this vid over and over a vid ,its great since I never had a PC before. When I boot up the computer it doesn’t show up on my main ALP playfield but when I use the VIBS button it pops up on the bottom of my backbox. I must have an HDMI cable plugged in the wrong spot so I can’t call up the display screen with 2 windows . I have one plugged into the back and the other p-lugged up to the HDMI spot in back up higher Is this right?
Hi Al, please start here : wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Chapter_6_VIBS_-Do_I_need_it , if this doesn't help let me know. It explains what you describe in a bit more detail. There is a video at the top of the page that summarizes this guide also.
I have my VIBS board installed and works. I am going to download steam and fx3 for the games that I purchased. I have the Legends Pinball Control panel installed, so after Joytokey is installed do I install LegendsPB-WTT or LegendsPB-WTT-PUP? Thanks Gary
Either one will work with FX3, the one ending in PUP has additional buttons for PinUP Popper mapped (but also works with FX3). I'd say, go with the first one until such time that you want to use PinUP Popper. With PUP, you'll have to map two keys for the nudge in FX3 with LegendsPB-WTT you don't.
A splitter will take the same video signal to two different monitors, not what you want. One HDMI output should be the playfield, the other to VIBS (backglass). If you have DVI output, you would need an adapter from DVI to HDMI. However, I tried DVI to HDMI for VIBS and didn't have any luck. In my case, for the VIBS monitor I went with the HDMI Adapter here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Additional_Hardware I would try it with the two HDMI Output ports (assuming both are HDMI) that you may have first, if that doesn't work at least you have another option with the HDMI Adapter.
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks for answering. I figured it wouldn't work. New Dell laptop only has 2 outs. Forget the name but its a small out that I had to get adapters for to hdmi and data usb out. Oh well no backglass display. Thanks for this video too. It was my guide yesterday. Do you have one or one coming for pinball emporium?
If you have two HDMI Output ports, you may be good (1 to Playfield, 1 to VIBS). I would start with getting FX3 up and running with the VIBS board, then I do have a guide for PinUP Popper Baller Installer: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpbi . While Pinball Emporium may be easy to install, using Popper may be the best long-term solution. It's more work, but you can add any tables you want. Keep in mind, you can't run Pinball Emporium and Popper at the same time as they overwrite registry entries and will cause problems. I never used Emporium myself, only went with Popper for several reasons.
@@WagnersTechTalk No. 2 usb type c ports only. So 1 for hdmi table display other for USB data for controls. I can live without the back box display. Woulda been nice. Ha. I'll watch that link for sure. Thanks again
This guide was meant to get you up and running, for some of the more advanced features check out Nailbuuster website here: www.nailbuster.com/wikipinup I plan to add PUP Pack info. in the future, just haven't gotten there yet.
@@WagnersTechTalk the issue is I can only get the resized/repositioned one from the menu in FX3. If I follow the steps on nail buster and make it that tiny 520x136 size I just end up with a tiny little dmd on my huge 1920x515 lcd lol. And then there is no dmd like there should be.
Great video! Just got mine setup last night. I had one question though, why do you keep the playfield in landscape mode? Isn’t there a way to adjust the rotations in FX3 and have it in portrait mode. It sure is a pain to start up with everything sideways. Also, how do you boot straight into FX3 from Windows 10? Thanks
Most of the sites recommend the playfield in Landscape and I tend to agree. Plus, if you change it to portrait none of the settings in the guide will work as the display layout numbers in FX3 will all need to be re-calculated and update. You can copy the shortcut for FX3 to your /Startup group in Windows. When you boot, it will launch then.
QUESTION: How can I access the original version of Monster Bash on FX3? When I play this game all I see is the remastered version with 3D moving toys/figures. I want to play the original version with the toys/figure simulating the real table. Any tips? Thanks in advance for your help.
There is only one version available on FX3 that I'm aware of. However, there are other options through VPX ( example: www.vpforums.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=15415 ). A guide for setting up PinUP Popper Baller Installer here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpbi/
I finally got fx3 working on Legends Pinball, but have flipper lag. Tried turning off Nvidia 3d vertical sync but it did not help. No lag at all on ATgames pinball tables, just fx3. Any suggestions? I'm 78 years old and a computer dummie, so anything will help. Thanks Gary
Hi Gary, I do have some recommendations here to reduce flipper lag: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Minimize_Flipper_Latency Hopefully some of these will help. If none of those help, you can also try not using JoyToKey and map the buttons in Steam to see if that helps. However, if you eventually plan to run Baller Installer PinUP Popper as well then the JoyToKey profile will be helpful for that as well. I'd start with the recommendations above, disabling unnecessary services will likely help.
Another question is I couldn't get any backglass images to show up? On anothe rforum I was told that PBFX3 doesn't come with backglass images and you have to download them yourself and install them. Is there a video tutorial that just shows how to do that? I found most of the backglass images online in a shared Google Drive, but I'm not sure how to add them to PBFX3 and how to edit the settings.ini file.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! I actually followed this exactly but the images are not showing up. So I've used Retropie a lot in the past and it uses a gameslist.xml file that has all the data / directory information that points to the right images in the media folder - is there something like a gameslist.xml file in PBFX3 that would point to the right image files as well? Is that the settings.ini file? If so, where is that file? Or if not, do all the files have to be .jpg files or will .png work as well? Sorry for the long question!
@@coinop29did you ever figure this out? I’m having the same issue. All the files are PNG I downloaded. I copied them in the directory but they still won’t appear on black glass. Just get black screen with the dot Matrix
@@coinop29 heck yeah. That fixed the problem! When i downloaded they only were named table with a number. After renaming to match table name it pops up on back glass 🤝🏾
How do you remove the dmd on the Williams tables. My main playfield screen has one on the top of the screen with graphics of the cab speakers that doesn't remove. The other tables are full screen. Thanks for any help!
Hi question for you - so I just got my ALP today and quickly set off in setting up OTG. The optiplex I ordered along with the VIBS has not been delivered yet should be anyday now. So I currently have the ALP as the main playfield then I have the Backglass and DMD on my laptop screen. The question is: Is this the best I can do until I get the VIBS board? meaning I cannot use the ALP back glass at all until the VIBS board comes? I know I can't switch back and forth without it but was wondering if I could just HDMI straight into it but it does not seem to detect it. So this is likely the best I can do unti that VIBS board shows up yes?
Correct, you won't be able to use the backglass until the VIBS board arrives. Don't plug anything HDMI into the backglass connector, it looks like HDMI but it's not and can cause damage to either the backglass or the device connecting to it. Wait for the VIBS please, if anything is connected to the backglass, remove immediately.
Sorry Mate I have a new one for you. Been running a setup mentioned previously with my laptop which on OTG mode where the laptop is the backglass and DMD. The laptop is strong Dell G7 with powerful i7 and GTX 2070. Obv the ALP is new and on the latest firmware. BUT I have some kind of unplayable flipper lag on FX3. I have turned off ball trails and gone to like 2x AA etc etc. But yah its very noticeable and not good. Using a USB 3.0 cable from laptop to ALP and its about 6 feet. This is very disheartening. Any thoughts?
@@thesmoness You can try mapping the buttons directly within FX3. While my PC and Steam Deck are fine with j2k, others recommend mapping using FX3. A few other points here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting
@@WagnersTechTalk been doing some slow motion camera testing. Not super accurate being my iphone on slow mo and my eyeball. But it seems native tables are ~50ms lag, my using my keyboard with no j2k running is about 100ms, and full j2k with 16x cpu time checked is ~150ms. What is realistic? is yours running same as native or is that 100ms the target? Gonna try and figure out how to just bind in FX3 see if that gives me same 100ms performance as keyboard
I assume you'll be using only 2 correct? If so, connect the playfield to the main HDMI port (up to you to determine). Then connect the secondary HDMI to the VIBS board. Arrange the playfield display to the far-left in Windows, VIBS to the right of that as shown in the guide. The 3rd monitor would be all the way to the far-right. Make sure each display is set at 100% (windows may try to change it to 150%, this won't work), 1920x1080, etc. per the guide. When you press the channel button, select OTG and 90 degrees. Should see the two displays on the ALP at this point. If you plan on using a 3rd, I'm not much help I only use two at the present time. Hopefully the above will get you going.
Superb video, very informative and to the point. I am sure this will help many people out.
Thank you so much Martin!
@@WagnersTechTalk I would like to so this. What laptop programs to I need on my computer to do this? Would appreciate it
@@timwise1014 Hi Tim, full guide that walks you through the entire thing here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/ and also, the video. Hop that helps!
@@WagnersTechTalk Or I could hire you to do it :) computer chalkenged here.
@@WagnersTechTalk can you help me with why my LegendsPB-WTT.zip file won't let me extract the files
I just wanted to say thank you for putting this fantastic work together. After watching this I purchased a ALP pinball with vibs board and the haptics kit from Buy Stuff Arcade and this is really awesome to have in my basement. We have come a long way since playing these games in arcades and bowling alleys back in the day. How cool to have something like this in the basement and for a really good price in my opinion. Your videos are thoughtful and easy to follow I Love the virtual table with all the different games. Thanks again!
Thank you so much Levi! It's been a rough past 24 hours (son was in a car accident, he's ok). Your message is very uplifting and appreciated!
Due to your valuable time, attention and tutorials, I got FX3 running on my ALP!! Thank you!! Once I disabled vsync in nVidia control panel and FX3 as I discovered on reddit, the flipper lag disappeared. Sorcerer's Stone and all the others look and play fantastic! Love to hear the dude say "You are not welcome here!!"
Awesome news! Happy to hear you're up and running, hope you enjoy it my friend!
Just got everything set up on my Legends pinball and it is great. I would have never been able to do it properly without this video. Thanks so much!!
Awesome Clark, so glad it was helpful to you!
Man... i really wish they had USB access in back of the machine or underneath it because those wires look like ASS!!!!! lol. Other than that i'm looking forward to getting one of these, and setting it up with a PC eventually, likely going to swap out that horrid backbox for the $500+ version offered on buystuff.
I nearly bought a really expensive custom machine but i hear it's best to mod these yourself and learn the ins and outs of the software so they're easier to troubleshoot when things go wrong. PLUS if i can't manage to get things running well enough, i'll always have the default tables and optional Zaccaria/Taito ones to fall back on.
It would be ideal to have the USB+HDMI at the back. At one point I was thinking of designing a 3D printed cover (to hide the wires), but when I asked for feedback few seemed interested in it. I may do it anyway, at some point. Not sure if you've seen this guide, but you may find it helpful: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1
Great detail on the setup from a completely new Pc. Only thing I did differently was being this machine was dedicated to my ALP, I set my monitor 1 to portrait. Having to navigate pc / steam sideways until I get into fx3 or steam zaccaria just didn’t seem worth it. Luckily it works flawlessly.
Thank you, got it and definitely understand.
yeah i followed your setup and it is a pain having to sit beside the alp and navigate landscape. ive got the hang of using the trackball and can get around the desktop for minor windows tweaks before i launch the game. i use teamviewer as per your recommendations when i have to do some more major files tranfers etc. wouldnt it make more sense to setup alp playfield to portrait and then tweak settings in fx3 to show playfield portrait? would be easier to navigate in windows prior to launch. will this work or screw things up?
Its 2024 and I'm using a Legends HD and this guide is epic!
Awe, thank you, Larry! Several more at wagnerstechtalk.com/guides if you need them.
Man this video is the best I’ve seen I sincerely thank you
Wow, thanks! I'm happy it is helpful to you 👍
I have a Radeon RX570 video card. I followed everything most everything in your video, but cant get the backglass to display at the same time as the table. The only thing I have setup different is both HDMI connections directly from the video card. I have the table directly input into the video card, and the other VIBS into a HDMI/DVI converter. I can get the backglass to display if i switch the connections on video card. Do I need the station setup like you have?
Some AMD cards may have difficulty as discussed here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#PC_Requirements . You may want to adjust the AMD Software settings to see if you can get it to work. In my early testing, I started with an AMD GPU but wound up switching to NVIDIA for similar reasons.
Love the video! So I followed everything and for some reason my laptop displays my fx3 while my atgames machine just shows my desktop.. can you help?
Thank you Joshua! When arranging the displays, move your laptop display to the far-right. Far-left should be your Playfield monitor. If you have a VIBS board and connected, it would be in the middle of the 3. See the 2nd point here for more details: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you so much! So I ordered my Vibs board just recently and I am waiting for it to be delivered. I wanted to see if I can play FX3 without the VIBS board. Also, I was able to get the FX3 to show on my atgames monitor. However when I use and of my buttons to play. Nothing seems to work. I have to use the laptop to play while it shows on my machine. Any help? Also.. thank you so so much for reaching out and your help!!
No problem, happy to help out! Did you connect a USB-A to USB-A cable (also known as OTG) between the ALP and your laptop? Here's a quick setup that should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Quick_Setup . A powered hub is only needed if the OTG connection isn't connecting to the PC (some PC's may need it).
Is my steam deck capable of this or does it have to be a windows pc? Is the vibs board required? Are there different steps for the micro? Thanks!
VIBS is required only if you want to use the backglass on the micro. More on VIBS/Micro here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro . Steam Deck with the ALP (HD) is here: wagnerstechtalk.com/sd-alp , basically the same on the micro.
I built a pin cab a few years ago and run about 200 tables on it including FX3. This cab however is a game changer and makes the world of pinball more readily available to people.
I might just sell my old Cab and purchase one of these. Your content is really well appreciated and has given me the urge to start playing pinball again.
Many thanks for posting this tutorial.
Tony. 👍👍
Thank you Tony, I've been totally impressed with this machine. I have some additional modding videos coming, one later this week. For an overview of some of the different ways to use this machine you may want to see this guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1 . Just as an fyi - if you decide you want to pick one up, there is a good sale starting 6/16. BitPixel HV, VIBS Board, Arcade Control Panel, etc. are some items that you may want if you decide to pick one up. More details here: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-news . There will likely be another sale in ~3 mo., so no rush if you miss this one. No idea what will be in the next sale.
@WagnersTechTalk You have one of the best setup videos around. The holy grail of ALP setup videos!
Can you please help with something that happened with my Pinball setup? My setup was working great but then for some reason Pinball FX3 stopped displaying on the ALP. It shows up on my laptop but now on the ALP I just get a black screen with a URL on the side of the screen that says:
c:\program files [x86]\steam\steamapps\common\pinball fx3\data\steam\pinballfx3.[bmp, gif, png, jpg, jpeg]
No idea what to do about this. Please help. Thanks!
Thank you Joel! I think what's happened here is that Windows got confused with the monitor/HDMI arrangement. Try plugging the HDMI connections in the same way you had it working before. Then restart the PC and see if Windows restores everything back. If not, the black screen you're seeing is the backglass display. See the 2nd point here to make sure your displays are arranged properly: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations . The first point here has a .jpg file that I created as a default backglass image until a game is selected: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#FX3_Troubleshooting
Hi - added the LegendsPB-WTT config file to JoyToKey documents folder, but the settings don't appear when I open JoyToKey. Will they only show up when connected to the ALP, or should I see them on my PC when it's not connected to ALP? Should I remove JoyToKey Config 1 and replace with LegendsPB-WTT. I can't seem to get the settings from the new config to show up.
Make sure you completely close out of JoyToKey (see taskbar icon at the bottom right). Then re-start and you should see it in the list.
Hello there, I see the JoyToKey Profile I downloaded/copied listed. It's highlighted when I open JoyToKey. The flippers are still not working ( not a single button or flipper is working ) . What could I be possibly be doing wrong ?
Sounds like something with the OTG connection. Please see here for some tips that should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting (the 3rd point is how to check)
I'm trying to set up FX3 on my Legends Pinball, but all I get on my playfield is my computer's main home screen in landscape position. It does not move, just shows same thing. Does not show my mouse and nothing works. My back screen works perfect and shows everything I do on the computer, mouse works, etc. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I'm using all the cables you used when setting the Legends Pinball to Steam Deck in your video about 10 days ago. Thanks in advance. Gary
It sounds like your displays are oriented properly, but double-check the settings for the display here (2nd bullet point): wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations . Also, make sure when you pressed the Channel button you set things like this: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Switch_HDMI_Input
I've been using that file that you talk about on here for joy2key, it works great, unfortunately my plunger is broken and I'm forced to launch the ball using the enter key on my keyboard, i have the arcade control panel installed on my legends pinball, is there anyway i can change the button on joy2key to launch the ball with like my X,Y OR Z top buttons? Cause they don't do anything in fx3 right now anyway, and i dont think i can launch my wizard power either on fx3 with this setup the way the file comes, please help me out if you can, really just want to be able to map my wizard power button and especially the launch the ball button to my control panel so I don't have to use my keyboard at all anymore while playing fx3
There is already an alternative mapped, press and hold the forward nudge button to launch the ball. Should work fine for you.
My usb 3 port on alp has not worked since day one. And still doesn't work even after a replacement of both boards and the cable. Support and myself are both confounded by this. Nothing in usb 3 detects. The hmdi input and usb2 ports do work.
Because of this. My alp tables are saved on usb flash drive plugged into usb 2.
To avoid a bunch of back and forth. I thought a powered hub plugged into my usb 2 would be the answer.
While the flash drive loads, steam does not detect my alp controls when the OTG cable is plugged into one of the hubs 4 ports. I have to have OTG direct connect to pc and ALP, making my usb hub useless. Any advice?
Is your hub connected to your ALP with your OTG cable to pc in one of the ports? Or is the hub connected to your pc with the OTG to ALP in one of the ports?
The powered USB hub is connected to the PC, in my case. I would try plugging the USB drive and OTG cable into this hub: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L32B9C2 and the OTG cable from this hub to the powered USB Hub on the PC and see if that works. Just a thought, I've not had this issue so can't be 100% sure if it will help.
So Mr. Wagner what do you think of Zen Studios new upgrade to all their pinball tables & the fact that people have to re-buy all their tables for the new generation..& what’s your take on the ticket system they’re trying to implement..?..thank you‼️ HollerBack Wagner
First off, I'll be honest, I've not tried their new system/games yet (I did buy Indiana Jones for FX3 though and it's a cool table - but overpriced). I know it's been almost a month since it's release, though without the cabinet mode feature being available (at last I heard, should be available at any time) I'll wait until it is. Their ticketing system sounds like a pain and I'm not jumping at buying the same tables I already own just because a different publisher has released them. I'm sure the rendering engine will make a difference and that I'll be digging into it at some point.
Love your vids .. but how come your vpx and fx3 tables look so bright on the ALP?? Mine look a bit dull and dont pop anywhere near as much as yours do .. is there settings or anything anywhere to adjust brightness settings??
Thank you! How do the stock tables look? If they look bright/colorful there, it may be a setting in the graphics card you're using with the ALP. That's where I'd start looking.
My ALP controller is not being detected by Windows. It's acting like I have no controllers plugged in at all. When I plug the USB cable in, it makes the windows chime and opens a folder, so I know everything is connected, but I can't figure out how to get it to work. Any ideas?
Hi Jim, please see this -should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting
Sent a comment earlier. Got everything working, but has flipper lag. Problem was with display settings. Thanks Have a steam deck on order, maybe that will fix flipper lag.
Interestingly enough, I really didn't feel any noticeable flipper lag on the Steam Deck. Here are some things you can do to minimize flipper lag on the PC: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Minimize_Flipper_Latency
Is there no way to just stream your PC Steam pinball games to the ALP? That would save you trouble of drilling holes and sitting a PC next to the ALP.
Might be able to use LegendsLink. Not sure how well it will perform, I don't use it myself.
I followed your tutorial for setting up Joy to key it is not picking up the other file that I downloaded now as far as pinball fx3 ever since I downloaded that other stuff I no longer have any controls on the pinball fx3 I have the Legends pinball with the arcade stick I went into steam and try to set it up like an Xbox one controller. I also followed the pinup popper install video I first did this a few days ago and it worked fine now that I've installed pin-up popper I have no controls on anything that work only the keyboard and that's not what I want to play with since I have an app games Legends pinball machine. One issue that I have also had is when I did have it actually working it had no sound and nothing on the back glass and when I would back out of the game the screen would just continuously scroll very fast
Hi Daniel, not sure what other file that you downloaded but the correct profile will need to be selected in j2k for it to work. Also, if you define the button mapping in two places, you'll of course get double entries when pressing buttons. For more information on j2k, this section should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#How_to_Setup_JoyToKey
Joytokey folder only shows a notepad file. I can open Joy to key though no problem. The legends pinball file does not have a controller next to it. I still dropped under the joytikey file and nothing... Any help would be great
Be sure that you copy the file after exiting j2k (right-click the icon on the taskbar and terminate). Copy the profile, then restart j2k, should pick it up then.
Ok. How do you get the sound to work? I have a PC with a graphics card, so the sound can't come thru the graphics card. What do I do?
The sound will come through the primary HDMI (playfield). You likely need to click the small speaker icon on the taskbar and set it to the primary HDMI. Also, make sure that the HDMI cable from the graphics card is plugged into the top port on the ALP. Also, see the last point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#VIBS_Troubleshooting
Do you need 2 hdmi ports, as well as a usb 3.0 to usb cord on your pc to play fx3 with backglass display? My pc has 1 hdmi port, 1 ethernet port, and 3 usb ports...... I don't have any usb-type c ports either.
If you want anything to show up on the backglass while connected to a PC, you'll need the VIBS board and a 2nd HDMI port. This guide goes into much more detail: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1 . Yes, you will need a USB cable (A-to-A) between the PC and the ALP, it's what allows the flippers, nudge and ball launch buttons to work.
Great video! Question...do I need to enter my cabinet code every time I log in? Is there a way for it to retain the code I received from Zen?
Thank you sir! Once you enter your code, it should "stick". I think over the years I've had to enter it twice so hold on to it, just incase.
this video will be very helpful. Did you make a video like this but for Pinball Arcade on Steam?
No I didn't, mainly because they charged a lot for cabinet mode support and wasn't going to spend the extra $. I'm cheap lol
Is the process the same for Pinball FX? It seems like Pinball FX3 is no longer having new tables added?
Developed an entirely new guide for Pinball FX here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx . However, the good news is the Xpadder application/profile mentioned on this guide also works with FX3/VPX/FP. Hope you find it helpful!
I do not understand I have copied the config file to the joytokey subfolder but it never shows up in joytokey???
Probably missed the step of exiting J2K and restarting it. See the 2nd bullet point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#JoyToKey
Ok needs some help. I had this running on old PC. I have another PC that I cannot get the OTG controls to work and its making me nuts. Yes I use ugreen and atolla hub. When plugged in it just does not show up. In PC device manager how and where should it show up? Do you have video how to test with joy2key, I read it on your page but a video could help for visual learners. ?
Make sure you have the OTG cable plugged into the USB 2.0 port (white connector on the ALP). It should work, everything I know is here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting . Sounds like you've got the hardware you need, just double check all the connections.
tHATS RIGHT mARTY IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!
So how do you hook up to the internet if you do not have a VIBS board??? You show how with the VIBS but not without. Thanks in advance
The VIBS board is only used to provide the ability to use the backglass with a PC (or Steam Deck, etc.) It has nothing to do with Internet access. If you want to connect the ALP to the Internet, you have two options: WiFi or Ethernet. If you have a connected PC, it would also typically use either WiFi or Ethernet.
I am a nub and go the machine yesterday. I want to add a computer to it. What is the min computer requirements to run all this stuff? Thanks
Congrats, hope you're enjoying it! Sure, I have that pretty well documented here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#PC_Requirements May want to check out some of my other ALP guides here to help you get started: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides/#Legends_Pinball
Well done for your video !
Is it the same path for micro pinball?
Thank you! I assume you mean the AtGames Legends Pinball Micro? If so, yes. Remember, what you see in this video is coming from a connected PC so it would be the same regardless if it's on the larger ALP or the smaller ALPu. Hope that helps!
Will an I-Mac computer work for this on my ALP? It’s all I got.
I don't think the GPU is going to be powerful enough to run it. I could be wrong, never owned an iMac though.
So I followed these directions and it’s working, but, sometimes when I launch FX3, the backglass screen is not recognized by FX3 and it’s blank, despite the playfield working. Is there a way to insure the backglass always shows when launching the app?
The blank/black screen on the backglass simply means the artwork is missing for the selected table. Look closely and you'll see a path with a file name mentioned. You can locate the artwork for the table, rename it exactly as what's shown and place it in that folder and the artwork will show up for it.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! actually the screen isn't black, it just shows the rest of the extended desktop.. meaning that FX3 is not using both screens... I need to figure out why it won't launch and use both screens all the time... Any ideas?
I'm having serious flipper lag on my ALP with FX3. So bad, no table is playable. When I connect the pc to a monitor there's no lag at all. What am I missing? JoytoKey doesn't seem to do anything. I have to use the pc keyboard. Again..am I missing something? Please help.
Make sure you have the latest firmware (there was a patch that went out Sat.), see if that fix the issue. Last bullet here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#Operation
Are you gonna do a new pinball FX tutorial. I just downloaded it and having issues
Eventually, cabinet mode is what I'm waiting on.
This is top notch UA-cam content, sir! Well done and thank you! I can't wait to duplicate your setup!
Thank you Greg, much appreciated! I hope you find it helpful in getting up and running quickly. 👍😎
Can someone please help me? Where in alp is the option to connect via ethernet? I clearly can see the wifi option but that's it. I have ethernet plugged in but no internet.
If you're using a PC playing FX3 and need internet, the PC itself will need to be connected either via Ethernet or WiFi. When in OTG mode, the network is supplied by the PC and not the ALP. However, once out of OTG (playing stock tables), just plugging an Ethernet cable into the back of the ALP is all you need to do on the ALP itself. Make sure you see the link light and some blinking activity lights. If you don't, could be the cable or connection to the switch/router. Hope that helps!
Thank you so much for making this. I am a little confused, how did you set up the second HDMI connection into the VIBS exactly? I rewinded the vide 20 times and I still can't understand. Did you somehow do USB from your computer to HDMI or did you split the HDMI. I am so excited to set this up but also so so very confused
Hi MichaelB, for the second HDMI connection to the VIBS board I could have used a DV to HDMI adapter on the PC. But, I was previously testing another PC (which didn't work out) and on that PC I had used a USB 3.0 to dual-HDMI adapter. My thought is to use the 2nd HDMI port at a later time for a dedicated DMD. The HDMI Adapter worked great on both machines (the one I returned and the new one I setup recently). So, I stuck with that. All the non-AtGames hardware (and software) can be found on this page: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Additional_Hardware . It should help quite a bit, especially the JoyToKey tutorial which basically you download the LegendsPB-wtt archive and everything will be pretty much ready to go. I did make a minor change to that file to allow using the A/B button on your Arcade Control Panel for a Lef/Right mouse click. Hope all this helps!
Is anyone having issues with the plunger working on FX
I'm trying to use Koy to key for my Legends pinball hD, I copy the WTT config file, paste in, it shows up in JtoK but its empty, all fields blank, uninstalled and reinstalled multiple times
any help?
Locate the j2k icon on the taskbar (lower-right) and right-click it and terminate it. Then re-launch it and see if it shows up now?
I tired that snd unisntalled and reinstalled, finally uninstalled, rebooted, installed, did not start, rebooted, loaded in the config file, restart, launched and it worked.....I'm sure the bulk of the restarts werent necessarry, but that menthod has worked in the past, having some lag issues with the flippers now, Vsync off in game abd CP, the back box quit working so I'm using a monitor plugged into the vid card for backglass and DMD.. Thanks!
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thanks. very helpful but my backsplash shows up on my laptop
See 09:19, you want your playfield display to be on the far left and the backglass display immediately to the right of it. The numbers aren't what's important, it's the arrangement of the displays is important. You can click the identify button to see which display is which. Your laptop display will be on the very far right of the other two. Also, make sure the backglass HDMI is connected to the VIBS HDMI input and that you've flipped the VIBS switch button.
This tutorial is awesome except I can't get Joy2Key working with my AtGames Legends Micro Pinball machine. I used the file you suggested for mapping buttons but nothing worked. Is there an update to the key mappings for the Micro or is there another solution besides Joy2Key that will make the buttons on the Micro work? Thanks!
j2k definitely works with the Micro as well, I used it with a Steam Deck running Windows. After copying the file, make sure that you exist/restart j2k. A few sections that should helop:wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#JoyToKey and wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting . Alternatively, you can map the buttons directly in Steam, if you prefer.
@@WagnersTechTalk Most mappings seem to work from Steam directly without the need for JoytoKey - except my right flipper button which isn't working for some reason.
hi, at around @9:39 in the video you are showing how your main screen (the playfield) is set to landscape. I currently have my backglass screen (on the computer settings) set to portrait mode. And I can see everything on my computer (on the pinball arcade screen just fine with screen #1 being set to portrait). And I even have Pinball Arcade up and running using the joytokey, with this configuration (my #1 screen set to portrait, and my #2 set to landscape -like yours). So I am not sure why I would need or want to have my #1 screen on the PC, set to landscape....when it seems all pinball machine games will need the primary PC screen #1 to be in portrait mode. I hope that makes sense...
Also if I left the screen #1 in landscape mode then it would look sideways when viewing it on the Arcade Legends pinball backglass (hence why my screen #1 is set to portrait mode currently).
I have a feeling if I dont have the same settings as you showed in your video for the PC screen configuration, then when you explain all the cabinet mode settings in the Pinball FX 3, those settings would not work for me....since my screen #1 is already in portrait mode....So I was just wondering why you would not have have your screen#1 in the PC settings to be in portrait mode???
thanks
That's correct, in the guide you'll find landscape is how it's documented. Like you, I started with Portrait as it seemed to make the most sense. However, as I began setting up PinUP Popper it was clear the landscape would provide the ability to see the entire screen (in portrait, while trying to configure anything things won't fit properly). It became very problematic to launch VPX and not be able to see the entire screen or get much done in Windows. I also find it easier to use TeamViewer to remotely connect to the PC used by the ALP to configure it and it's easier to do in landscape orientations. I also found the community recommended using Landscape for similar reasons. So, went that way and simply rotate the display in software when the tables are launched. This has worked out well and the numbers I show in the guide should match fine if done that way. But, they won't if you stick with portrait. You'll have to do a bit of tweaking for the backglass/DMD positioning.
@@WagnersTechTalk OK, I think I see what you are getting at. I would rather follow your directions, since it would save time in trying to figure out all the dimensions etc as you explained in your video. I could also use VNC or teamviewer etc, to remotely connect to my machine just like you mentioned, and operate it in landscape mode (without worrying about how it looked on the atgame pinball screen (if that happened to be turned on when I was messing with Steam and like Pinball FX 3, etc)
And then, as you clarified in yuor comment above, I just use the settings within the software (Pinball FX3) to change Display settings. That makes sense.
The only other thing about using Vertical mode on my Windows machine is that I want to play stuff like Worms Pinball and maybe some older games too (that may not have fancy Display settings like PFX3 has). So maybe in those cases, I can just rotate the settings of my primary monitor (and therefore the backglass) to play a game like Worms. Only time will tell, once I experiment some more with some of the more esoteric games like Worms and even some possible Gog.com pinball games like Epic pinball
Can you do this with the VIBS so that you only have the play field but the backglass is just not functioning? Also, JOY2KEY says trackball mimics mouse movement, I don't have a trackball on my ALP, how do you control or can you still use your mouse.
Sure, you can set it up such that everything goes to the playfield. Just skip the parts that discuss the backglass setup. To use the keyboard+mouse, you'd have to connect one to your PC or use the Arcade Control Panel (what this guide assumes you have). More on the ACP here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#Arcade_Control_Panel_Installation
@Wagner's TechTalk great thanks!
Excellent! This should be on everyone's radar. Clear, crisp and consise.
Thank you, hope it's helpful!
ANY VIDEOS COMING FOR SETTING UP ALP TO PINBALL FX ON STEAM?
Yes, I'm working on it. Adding the final touches to the written guide here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx
Why are you saying the AMD APU will not work with the VIBs board? Is it the Vega graphics or atgames implementation? I was looking at some of the 5600 and 5700GX builds that ETA Prime was putting together. Don't want to waste my money on a a small PC build if it won't work.
I can say the BeeLink mini-PC I initially started with did not work with the VIBS board without using an external USB Adapter (I used a dual HDMI adapter). There were many reasons why I returned it, mainly the GPU performance was terrible (and can't be upgraded, VEGA 10) I could see screen tearing during screen transitions. Many others have stated they had issues with an AMD GPU + VIBS. Wrote up a troubleshooting guide here to assist: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#VIBS_Troubleshooting . I won't say it won't work, but didn't work well for me at all and don't recommend it based on my personal experience.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks very much. I think I will wait for the next AMD APU that will have the RDNA or wait for the video card prices to go down!
Don't understand the first bit about the drive backup? What drive? I just connect up the laptop, hdmi and USB to the pinball legends and play it with joytokey and FX3. FX is way too laggy compared and I cannot get it better, despite killing v sync etc. I am running 4070 and an I9 on my laptop with 16GB Ram./
It's an optional step, just made an image backup of the drive as it was sent from the Mfgr. nothing more.
@@WagnersTechTalk aw ok. Do you notice FX has more lag than FX3?
This section helped with my configuration: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp4k-pcsetup/#Improve_Latency_with_NVIDIA_GPUs
So, how do you send the images to the backglass. Followed the video completely, but this seems to be left out. Where is the step showing the image being sent to the backglass display? I can't seem to find this information anywhere, in any guide. It just seems like you set the settings, and it works upon launch. However, I'm getting nothing on the backglass except the static windows display.
It was the side-by-side screen setup in display manager. Nice.
Just double-checking, you're good to go now right?
I cannot get the controls to work on my legends pinball machine
Please see the 3rd point down in this section and see if it helps: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#FX3_Troubleshooting
My VIBS board just shipped so thank you for this!!!
Very welcome, I think you're gonna love it! Love your channel SMR!
Great video. Quick question. I only have one hdmi on my PC and want to install vibs board. Is there any way I could use one of my DP slots as a extra hdmi out? Thank.
I've not tried it, but pretty sure it will work. You'd just need a DP to HDMI adapter cable between the two and make sure you have the video signal set at 1920x1080, 100% scaling, landscape, etc. (guide and video mention this in more detail).
Thanks! Will try it out..
Love the video. Very helpful and my games are running great. Unfortunately the sound doesn't work well. It is low volume. I have my pc volume at 100%, the Legends volumes settings all the way up, and all of the FX3 volume slides at high, but still get weak sound. Tried switching the HDMI cable but no help there. Don't have weak sound when playing the games installed on the machine, but also get weak volume with Visual Pinball and Future Pinball. Any thoughts? Could it have anything to do with Nvidia settings? Thanks for any help you can provide.
Thank you Douglas, happy you've got everything working! The very last bullet point here is if there is no sound: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#VIBS_Troubleshooting which doesn't seem to be exactly the issue you're having. But, it reads: No sound when using FX3/VPX or Future Pinball (OTG) - click the speaker icon in the lower-right of the taskbar in Windows. Make sure it’s set to output audio to the primary HDMI output (your backglass). Once set properly, the audio should play through just fine. I'd double check the playfield HDMI connection is the primary HDMI, then adjust the volume control in Windows and see if that helps. If not, honestly not sure what may be the cause. If it sounds fine on the ALP itself but weak audio only when the PC is connected, it's something on the PC/Windows side that I've not seen. May just take some additional tinkering/searching to find a solution. Sorry I may not be very helpful in this reply. You can also ask your question on the Legends Ultimate subreddit here: www.reddit.com/r/LegendsUltimate , good chance someone there has had the same issue and can be more helpful.
When I connect my pc to the agl, the display will not show up on the cab. I am in otg mode my display settings are 100% and 1080p. My MacBook works fine. Not sure what the issue is with the pc
Connect the HDMI/OTG cables to your PC, power off the ALP, wait 10 sec. and back on and re-try. As long as the display is set to 1080p and 100% as you said, should show up. If not, double check the main playfield display (far left display) is set the same. Maybe you're looking at the Backglass instead? Hard to tell.
@@WagnersTechTalk so I hooked up another monitor to my pc and I got it to display as the second and it looked great. I switched the alp to be the main display and unplugged the second monitor from the pc and my alp screen went bonkers? I don’t really understand and the resolution automatically switched to something other than 1080 too I’m at a loss here
What do you recommend for a desktop to connect to the Legends Pinball for virtual pinball
I assume you're asking for the ALP HD model (not 4k). If that's the case, I have some information and suggestions here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Chapter_5_PC_Requirements . Those suggestions are older and not intended for the 4K machine. Though, the Skytech PC shown seems like it may work fine for 4K, I've not personally tested it. If you're looking for one that is more future-proof, I'd recommend posting your question here: www.reddit.com/r/LegendsUltimate
The reason for asking on reddit, there are many that are already using different PC configurations and can provide better responses. I wish I had a bunch of machines that I could use to perform benchmarks, but I don't.
Yes the HD, the computer you referenced is no longer available and it was a few years ago, I was wondering if you had an updated one.
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Wagner's
Thanks for the set up. I am however getting 1 problem. My backglass still shows black screen with location path. Yes I have vibs. What do I need to do to fix this?
Hi Michael, did you see the 3rd point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations for copying the artwork?
Thank you again for your help. It seemed to work. You mentioned fan communities for made backglass. ?
How do you clear the controls in Steam Fx3? They are already set by default to the keyboard and mouse. I read your instructions and it said to clear the controls if they are set, in order to use Joy2key
If you didn't map anything yourself, just the j2k profile is all you need to setup.
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you sir
Thank you so much for the videos!
Couple questions... I finished my haptics and it works GREAT but in OTG mode the exciters don't seem to be working.
On the original tables they work great.
Secondly when installing the vibs board. I am able to view my desktop perfectly on the backglass but no images. (FX3)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Very welcome Michael. I'll point you to some info. to help:
1. OTG Mode - It may be that you didn't press the switch button to swap from original tables to OTG (PC Audio, also here wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-haptics/#Troubleshooting or here if it's VPX that's an issue wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-haptics/#Option_1_Haptic_Effects ).
2. No artwork on backglass - see the 3rd point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations
Until you select a table, you won't see any backglass artwork, here's one I made up that you're welcome to download (first point/link): wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#FX3_Troubleshooting
Hope that gets everything going for ya!
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Thank you again! Im sooo close, as the backglass is the only thing im still stuck on. The cabinet settings inside FX3 didn't work BUT when i inputted the settings on at games it put me close. The screen is solid black and the top shows the jpg switching through tables at the top but no image?
2nd link above should get you to the artwork, you'll copy those files and next time you launch FX3 should see the backglass artwork.
Any suggestions for doing this with legends ultimate 1.1 w pinball kit from sams club?
You could do the same thing on the ALU 1.1, just don't use the cabinet code (won't look good on the ALU) and don't worry about setting up the 2nd screen. The rest of the stuff may apply, might need to tweak the JoyToKey profile for the ALU as well to work with the pinball kit. Hopefully some of that is helpful.
Thank you for the info and all your videos and guide!
got fx3 running thanx to your walkthru so thanks for that. only thing im noticing is that sides of the playfield are slighly cut off. some tables worse than others. i cant even see the shooter lane on indiana jones. thoughts? just wondering if normal or i need to tweak some settings
Great news Jay, happy to hear it was helpful to you! One thing I can think of off-hand is to check and make sure both displays are scaled to 100% in Windows. During the initial setup, Windows may try to scale it to 150% which might explain the issue you're seeing. See the 2nd bullet point here for more details: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations
I heard you no longer need a cabinet code. Is that correct?
I've not heard that, set it up about a month ago and needed to enter my cab code.
Wasn't able to find / get a cabinet code so couldn't get past the first step here. Any ideas would be great.
It may take them a day or two to send it to you.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! I got the cabinet code - but as mentioned before I couldn't get Joy2Key working with my Micro.... ideas?
Great video. I’m getting an ALP tomorrow and wanted to do this but it seems I need a dedicated pc. I have a high end gaming PC but it seems like I would have to change steam settings and monitors every time I go between pc gaming and playing fx3? That seem accurate?
Yes, that's accurate. You may find it better to have a dedicated PC for FX3/VPX/FP on the ALP. If you haven't already, may want to see this: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1 , it will cover many upgrade options that might be helpful to you.
@@WagnersTechTalk I was reading that mapping within steam eliminates flipper lag, do you agree with that or still recommend J2K?
@@zlanders77 Sure, I've read that as well. However, the problem with using steam directly is that it won't help with VPX/FP. I have a single j2k profile which works with all. If you were going to use FX3 exclusively then it may provide better performance. I have virtually no noticeable lag on my machine. I did optimize my machine, based on information here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Minimize_Flipper_Latency However, definitely set it up the way that performs best for you. I choose to go with j2k for various reasons, one stated above the other is that the information provided in the guide can get anyone up and running far faster/easier than explaining multiple mapping configurations. I may add more options at some later time, but I've been pretty happy with j2k myself.
Any changes if you have windows 11?
Heard of some folks who are running Windows 11 and reverted back to Windows 10 due to issues. Sticking with Windows 10 here for now.
So followed the guide and no video on my pinball table. It has sound but just a grey screen. I’ve emailed atgames they said my best bet is to check with you. The cord is fine I can plug it into my monitor it works fine. I’ve check all settings they are where they are supposed to be.
If you've hooked an HDMI cable from the primary HDMI output from your PC and plugged it into the top HDMI Input port on the ALP, pressed the Channel button and set the input according to this: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Switch_HDMI_Input you should see the video signal on the main playfield.
@@WagnersTechTalk yes I’ve done that. No video. It plays sound sound threw the atgames speakers but no video.
Make sure the video resolution on the PC is set to 1920x1080 when connecting to your external monitor (not 4k). If that doesn't help, try a different HDMI cable. If neither of those, may be an issue with the HDMI input on the ALP.
Thanks. Got mine all setup. Watched your video numerous times and your Reddit post.
Awesome, glad to hear you're good-to-go! Hope to have more guides available for more fun ways of getting the most out of your ALP! I appreciate you watching/using the guides. Don't hesitate to let me know what you want to see in the future.
Do you still need to request the pinball cabinet code for pinball FX? I filled it out +1 week ago and never heard back
You only need a cabinet code for Pinball FX3, in Pinball FX you can immediately activate cabinet mode. More on that in this guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks, looks like my bestbuy USB-A to USB-A cable didn't work and is the last piece of the puzzle for me. Waiting on the one you linked on amazon to come in a few days. everything else looked good though. hoping i dont need xmapper unless im using the other two pinball systems - which it sounds like could be a bit of a pain to setup?
Yes, I've heard from others that the Insignia USB cables don't work for whatever reason. Spent a week with one individual trying to narrow down the problem and the cable was it. Give j2k a try first, if the performance is good great. If not, Xpadder is another option. You can also map the buttons directly in steam, but I've had issues with it in the past.
How do I make this work with a 3 screen setup?
I don't have a 3 screen setup, so can't tell you exactly. But basically, the 3rd screen would be on the very far right and you'd need to change the dot matrix positioning values according to your display resolution, etc.
If my PC has dual monitors already do I mark the ALP and back glass as display 3 and 4?
The numbers aren't important, it's their arrangement from left-right. Playfield, Backglass and then DMD (left to right). Make sure are scaled to 100%, 1920x1080, etc. as mentioned in the guide. Hope that helps!
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! I just bought an ALP so there is a learning curve! I see there's a box for "live stream" so do I put my Twitch credentials in and then hook the ALP to my capture card somehow?
I don't personally use Twitch, but after you enter your credentials and enable live streaming it will stream directly to your Twitch account. There won't be a need to add a capture card. I tried it with YT years ago and that's how it worked then, but haven't tried since.
Can you turn the ball streaks off?
Not near the machine presently, but check the settings within fx3, you can turn it on/off.
@WagnersTechTalk I'm so thankful for your video. I've ran into quite a problem with the display, however. When I hook everything up, the backglass display shows the main screen and the main display shows what should be on the backglass. My laptop only has two USB ports and one HDMI. So I bought an HDMI to USB adapter and used both USB ports and the one HDMI port. Did I do that incorrectly? Why are the videos on the backglass and main displays switched? Thanks for any help you can provide!
Hi Joel, I think the problem in this case is that the arrangement of the displays is wrong in Windows. Click the Identify button, there you'll likely see the backglass as 1, Playfield as 2. Instead, this move the displays around such that the playfield is on the far left, then the backglass, any other display to the far right. More on the settings for each on the 2nd point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations Make sure they are fully aligned at the tops of each displays (don't want them crooked in anyway or it will throw things off - straight line at the top of each display).
@WagnersTechTalk Thanks. So, I checked out the display and it shows I have three displays. The first box says "1/3" and the second box says "2". When I plugged in the USB and HDMI from the Pinball machine it only showed "1" and "2" and worked fine. I bought a USB to HDMI adapter to connect the VIBS board to the laptop and when I added the VIBS connection to the second USB port that's when it showed 3 screens. My laptop only has 2 USB ports and 1 HDMI which is why I got the adapter. Thanks for your help.
@WagnersTechTalk Hi! How would I get my Display options to show two screens instead of three screens please given my above reply. Thanks so much in advance for whatever help you can provide me! I really appreciate it.
You could use the HDMI out from the laptop as the playfield display, then one of the other HDMI ports for VIBS. Anything connected to an HDMI port is going to show up under Windows. I hope this answers your question. From the adapter standpoint, only one of those should be needed/connected.
Thanks for this video! Just way out of my league.. I think I might try, but will fail! Old school guy that has owned OG coin op pins back in 1999 ; Frankenstein, Elvira, Tales from the Crypt, Dracula, Freddy, etc. and had to sell them off in 2018 due to life! I just bought this Atgames pinball in hopes to get these games back to play! I was way off! I guess I will stick to the games it came with which are pretty cool! If anyone can help out with a easier way to get the games mentioned on my Atgames Legends Pinball, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks again!
Hi Eric, I totally get it. That's part of why I created this guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1 . It meshes other guides into one that steps you through everything. Please start at the beginning here, take your time and I hope it walks you through the process in an easier to consume manner. It won't be that hard, you should be able to get going with FX3 within an hour or less.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks for the kind reply brother, I appreciate it! I think I'm going to give it a go due to your positive response and Digital Victory on youtube along with many positive responses on VP Universe! You guys are way cool and so stoked now to make it happen! Thanks for all your hard work to help out others, so admirable! Happy New Year man!!!
The score part of my table is still on the main screen.
How do I move it to the back glass?
Bonjour Mon Ami. Merci pour vos vidéos. J'aurais besoin de Vous SVP. J'ai cassé le connecteur vert - vidéo 6:39- ( réf :HA 8819-STB-V1) qui relie le tableau arrière au flipper. Je ne peux pas en trouver en France. SVP aidez-moi. Merci.
Très bienvenu et merci d'avoir regardé! Il existe un certain nombre de distributeurs en Europe. Je ne sais pas lesquels ont la disponibilité des pièces, mais je vérifierais avec ceux répertoriés en Europe ici: www.atgames.net/arcades/shop-now/. Ils peuvent être en mesure de commander des pièces spéciales pour vous.
MERCI @@WagnersTechTalk MERCI pour votre réponse . J'ai fait un mail pour 1ére demande et vous informerais de la suite. Merci.👍👍
Bonjour,
Je souhaitais CHALEUREUSEMENT vous remercier pour votre intervention.
Je vous confirme avoir reçu la pièce expédié par Just For Game ce jour.
Un peu de soucis avec le transporteur mais Just For Game a été SUPER.
J'ai passé réservation de la carte VIB'S et vous REMERCIE encore une fois.
Joël
Do you have no table / ball lag or stutter at all when using fx3 and vpx on OTG on the ALP cab?
Fx3 and vpx run so smooth on my laptop .. but when i plug the hdmi into the alp there seems to be slight ball stutter etc.
The flippers work fine.
I can't get my head around it. Any help please?
In FX3, turn off VSync and it will likely play better. In VPX, I don't have any ball stuttering.
@@WagnersTechTalk what pc/laptop are you using?
I'm using the DELL PC mentioned here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Suggestions , however it's no longer available.
Thansk mate.
Im just baffled .. like i say everything runs perfect on my laptop .. like a dream.
Then as soon as i hook up to ALP with the hdmi lead thats when im noticing ball stutter ( not flipper lag )
Hate the wires on the top a real eye sore !!
I thought about designing a 3d printed cover for it to hide them. Created a poll if there was interest, only 30% were interested so I never did. I may do it anyway at some point, I'm with you on that.
Hi great vid, what are the pc specs you used for this mod, thanks!!
Thank you kindly! The PC I purchased is no longer available (Dell G5 Gaming Desktop PC), you can find the specs for that as well as a similar, yet more powerful machine here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Suggestions . Also, if you find a different machine and want a good idea of how it will perform, see the grey box here for a link: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Chapter_5_PC_Requirements . That link will allow you to enter the specs and get an idea on how it will perform with FX3.
@@WagnersTechTalk awesome thanks for the quick reply 👍
How do you remove the dot matrix in fx3. I turned it off but it will not remove from the backglass. Any suggestions.
Please see the first bullet point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#BitPixel_HV_FX3_Tweaks
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you! I want to remove the dot matrix size in UI/steaming but it will not allow me too. Any suggestions because I could not find it guide unless I’m missing something.
The link above shows you what to do. Are you saying that didn't work? If you're talking about the black rectangle, that's in the artwork itself. You'd have to find your own artwork that doesn't show the black box area.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you!
Thanks very much for this guide, really helped me set up my ALP with Pinball FX3 - working perfectly. Was expecting it to be a pain but with this guide I had it working in no time - cheers!
Glad it helped, have a great weekend!
Can I use a laptop for this setup?
You can, just make sure the playfield and backglass are arranged at the left and the laptop display is on the far right. Some additional information may be found here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Chapter_4_PC-Based_Virtual_Pinball_Overview
I'm unable to configure OTG mode and can only use legendslink to stream locally (main board won't give any type of signal). This is causing major issues with mapping buttons (unable to correctly use JoytoKey with LegendsLink). Could someone please post their working steam controller config?
At this point, I've not used Legends link myself and can't offer any substantial recommendation. You may want to ask this question at the Official AtGames Pinball Fan Page (Facebook). You can find links to that and other resources here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#Resources
Wil Joy2key help with flipper lag?
Most likely not, but this might: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Minimize_Flipper_Latency
You never mentioned which graphics card you had. . . ??? Please let us know in a reply. Thanks
Using a GTX 1650 Super, the FX3 guide does link to the PC Requirements guide (here wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#PC_Requirements ) as it's shared by both FX3/PinUP Popper guides. I tested a BeeLink mini-PC first, not happy with it and returned it. Then went with the Dell/1650. Hope that helps.
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks for the details. I was wondering about the 3 HDMI (table, back box, DMD). You mentioned an option for use a “Dual HDMI Adapter”, the question I have is, will it know (the card or the adapter) to send the back box down one HDMI and the DMD down the other HDMI. (I can’t base my plans on theory.) ;)
I'm not using a DMD currently connected to the 2nd HDMI port on the adapter, I can't 100% answer your question. Although, I have no issues with the PC consistently sending the signal to the backbox so I presume the same will be true if/when the DMD is connected to the 2nd port.
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks, I really appreciate your time and answers.
Got it running again! Yeah!
Awesome buddy, have fun!
Hi Jon. I’ve been looking at this vid over and over a vid ,its great since I never had a PC before. When I boot up the computer it doesn’t show up on my main ALP playfield but when I use the VIBS button it pops up on the bottom of my backbox. I must have an HDMI cable plugged in the wrong spot so I can’t call up the display screen with 2 windows . I have one plugged into the back and the other p-lugged up to the HDMI spot in back up higher Is this right?
Hi Al, please start here : wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Chapter_6_VIBS_-Do_I_need_it , if this doesn't help let me know. It explains what you describe in a bit more detail. There is a video at the top of the page that summarizes this guide also.
I have my VIBS board installed and works. I am going to download steam and fx3 for the games that I purchased. I have the Legends Pinball Control panel installed, so after Joytokey is installed do I install LegendsPB-WTT or LegendsPB-WTT-PUP? Thanks Gary
Either one will work with FX3, the one ending in PUP has additional buttons for PinUP Popper mapped (but also works with FX3). I'd say, go with the first one until such time that you want to use PinUP Popper. With PUP, you'll have to map two keys for the nudge in FX3 with LegendsPB-WTT you don't.
Wondering if you can help me. My cpu only has 2 outs. Can I use an hdmi splitter to get to the panel and vibs board?
A splitter will take the same video signal to two different monitors, not what you want. One HDMI output should be the playfield, the other to VIBS (backglass). If you have DVI output, you would need an adapter from DVI to HDMI. However, I tried DVI to HDMI for VIBS and didn't have any luck. In my case, for the VIBS monitor I went with the HDMI Adapter here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Additional_Hardware I would try it with the two HDMI Output ports (assuming both are HDMI) that you may have first, if that doesn't work at least you have another option with the HDMI Adapter.
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks for answering. I figured it wouldn't work. New Dell laptop only has 2 outs. Forget the name but its a small out that I had to get adapters for to hdmi and data usb out. Oh well no backglass display. Thanks for this video too. It was my guide yesterday. Do you have one or one coming for pinball emporium?
If you have two HDMI Output ports, you may be good (1 to Playfield, 1 to VIBS). I would start with getting FX3 up and running with the VIBS board, then I do have a guide for PinUP Popper Baller Installer: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpbi . While Pinball Emporium may be easy to install, using Popper may be the best long-term solution. It's more work, but you can add any tables you want. Keep in mind, you can't run Pinball Emporium and Popper at the same time as they overwrite registry entries and will cause problems. I never used Emporium myself, only went with Popper for several reasons.
@@WagnersTechTalk No. 2 usb type c ports only. So 1 for hdmi table display other for USB data for controls. I can live without the back box display. Woulda been nice. Ha. I'll watch that link for sure. Thanks again
How do I get pup packs for FX3 working with pinup popper?
This guide was meant to get you up and running, for some of the more advanced features check out Nailbuuster website here: www.nailbuster.com/wikipinup I plan to add PUP Pack info. in the future, just haven't gotten there yet.
@@WagnersTechTalk the issue is I can only get the resized/repositioned one from the menu in FX3. If I follow the steps on nail buster and make it that tiny 520x136 size I just end up with a tiny little dmd on my huge 1920x515 lcd lol. And then there is no dmd like there should be.
Minimum PC requirements? Thank you.
here you go, also check the blue box here for a link that will fine tune it a bit: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#PC_Requirements
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you so much!
Great video! Just got mine setup last night. I had one question though, why do you keep the playfield in landscape mode? Isn’t there a way to adjust the rotations in FX3 and have it in portrait mode. It sure is a pain to start up with everything sideways. Also, how do you boot straight into FX3 from Windows 10? Thanks
Most of the sites recommend the playfield in Landscape and I tend to agree. Plus, if you change it to portrait none of the settings in the guide will work as the display layout numbers in FX3 will all need to be re-calculated and update. You can copy the shortcut for FX3 to your /Startup group in Windows. When you boot, it will launch then.
QUESTION: How can I access the original version of Monster Bash on FX3? When I play this game all I see is the remastered version with 3D moving toys/figures. I want to play the original version with the toys/figure simulating the real table. Any tips? Thanks in advance for your help.
There is only one version available on FX3 that I'm aware of. However, there are other options through VPX ( example: www.vpforums.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=15415 ). A guide for setting up PinUP Popper Baller Installer here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpbi/
I finally got fx3 working on Legends Pinball, but have flipper lag. Tried turning off Nvidia 3d vertical sync but it did not help. No lag at all on ATgames pinball tables, just fx3. Any suggestions? I'm 78 years old and a computer dummie, so anything will help. Thanks Gary
Hi Gary, I do have some recommendations here to reduce flipper lag: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Minimize_Flipper_Latency Hopefully some of these will help. If none of those help, you can also try not using JoyToKey and map the buttons in Steam to see if that helps. However, if you eventually plan to run Baller Installer PinUP Popper as well then the JoyToKey profile will be helpful for that as well. I'd start with the recommendations above, disabling unnecessary services will likely help.
Another question is I couldn't get any backglass images to show up? On anothe rforum I was told that PBFX3 doesn't come with backglass images and you have to download them yourself and install them. Is there a video tutorial that just shows how to do that? I found most of the backglass images online in a shared Google Drive, but I'm not sure how to add them to PBFX3 and how to edit the settings.ini file.
See 10:25 and the 3rd point here for the archive shown in the video: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! I actually followed this exactly but the images are not showing up. So I've used Retropie a lot in the past and it uses a gameslist.xml file that has all the data / directory information that points to the right images in the media folder - is there something like a gameslist.xml file in PBFX3 that would point to the right image files as well? Is that the settings.ini file? If so, where is that file? Or if not, do all the files have to be .jpg files or will .png work as well? Sorry for the long question!
@@coinop29did you ever figure this out? I’m having the same issue. All the files are PNG I downloaded. I copied them in the directory but they still won’t appear on black glass. Just get black screen with the dot Matrix
@@hornets303 yes I figured it ou - you just have to name them exactly the same as the table file in FX3 - then they will work.
@@coinop29 heck yeah. That fixed the problem! When i downloaded they only were named table with a number. After renaming to match table name it pops up on back glass 🤝🏾
How do you remove the dmd on the Williams tables. My main playfield screen has one on the top of the screen with graphics of the cab speakers that doesn't remove. The other tables are full screen. Thanks for any help!
Hi Chad, it's not something I dug into much. Don't recall off-hand if you can.
Hi question for you - so I just got my ALP today and quickly set off in setting up OTG. The optiplex I ordered along with the VIBS has not been delivered yet should be anyday now. So I currently have the ALP as the main playfield then I have the Backglass and DMD on my laptop screen. The question is: Is this the best I can do until I get the VIBS board? meaning I cannot use the ALP back glass at all until the VIBS board comes? I know I can't switch back and forth without it but was wondering if I could just HDMI straight into it but it does not seem to detect it. So this is likely the best I can do unti that VIBS board shows up yes?
Correct, you won't be able to use the backglass until the VIBS board arrives. Don't plug anything HDMI into the backglass connector, it looks like HDMI but it's not and can cause damage to either the backglass or the device connecting to it. Wait for the VIBS please, if anything is connected to the backglass, remove immediately.
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you! And I guess maybe I got lucky I did have something in it briefly but all seems fine. Thanks again.
Sorry Mate I have a new one for you. Been running a setup mentioned previously with my laptop which on OTG mode where the laptop is the backglass and DMD. The laptop is strong Dell G7 with powerful i7 and GTX 2070. Obv the ALP is new and on the latest firmware. BUT I have some kind of unplayable flipper lag on FX3. I have turned off ball trails and gone to like 2x AA etc etc. But yah its very noticeable and not good. Using a USB 3.0 cable from laptop to ALP and its about 6 feet. This is very disheartening. Any thoughts?
@@thesmoness You can try mapping the buttons directly within FX3. While my PC and Steam Deck are fine with j2k, others recommend mapping using FX3. A few other points here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting
@@WagnersTechTalk been doing some slow motion camera testing. Not super accurate being my iphone on slow mo and my eyeball. But it seems native tables are ~50ms lag, my using my keyboard with no j2k running is about 100ms, and full j2k with 16x cpu time checked is ~150ms. What is realistic? is yours running same as native or is that 100ms the target? Gonna try and figure out how to just bind in FX3 see if that gives me same 100ms performance as keyboard
when i set up the vibs board my pc shows 3 monitors not 2. Any tips on that?
I assume you'll be using only 2 correct? If so, connect the playfield to the main HDMI port (up to you to determine). Then connect the secondary HDMI to the VIBS board. Arrange the playfield display to the far-left in Windows, VIBS to the right of that as shown in the guide. The 3rd monitor would be all the way to the far-right. Make sure each display is set at 100% (windows may try to change it to 150%, this won't work), 1920x1080, etc. per the guide. When you press the channel button, select OTG and 90 degrees. Should see the two displays on the ALP at this point. If you plan on using a 3rd, I'm not much help I only use two at the present time. Hopefully the above will get you going.
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks. I guess the third screen is because I am using a laptop. Thank you for the response.
Yes, 3rd screen would be your laptop display. Just move it to the far-right.