Pinball FX Cabinet Mode Setup on the Legends Pinball/Micro +Game Play
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Pinball FX is the latest pinball platform available from Zen Studios and supports cabinet mode. This video will step you through the installation and setup of Pinball FX for use on the AtGames Legends Pinball or Legends Pinball Micro. The written guide will always have the latest information and may be found at: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx
Chapters
00:00 - Intro
01:04 - Install Steam & Pinball FX
03:38 - Legends Pinball Connections
05:12 - Windows Display Configuration
07:24 - Copy Backglass Art
08:50 - Cabinet Mode Setup
12:00 - Cabinet Button Mapping
14:34 - Pinball FX Tour and Game Play
Additional AtGames Guides:
* Legends Pinball FX Guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx
* Legends Pinball Micro Guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro
* Legends Gaming Guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-gaming...
* Legends Core Guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alcore
* Legends Core MAX Guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alcoremax
* Legends Gamer Mini Guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/algm
* Legends Gamer Pro Guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/algp
* Legends Ultimate Mini Guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alum
* Main Legends Ultimate Guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alu
* Main Legends Pinball Guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp
* Legends Pinball Mod Series: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1
* CoinOpsX Guide (Horizontal): wagnerstechtalk.com/al-coinopsx
* CoinOpsX Guide (Vertical): wagnerstechtalk.com/al-coinopsxv
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Thank you for your kind words, just love this kind of stuff and hope it's helpful!
The perfect setup guide. Atgames is lucky to have you make these great tutorials! Your Logo should be on all the cabinets or at the very least in the instruction guides! Thanks John!
Thank you so much Mike, I appreciate you Sir!
As soon as I heard Addams Family was available for this on Steam it became a priority. Been waiting 30 or so years to be able to replay this game and now in comfort of my own home. Thanks for the upload of the how to.
It is a fun table, I'm not good at it by any means but love the animations Zen added! Very welcome Ed!
Thanks as always for your tutorials John. It's always a pleasure to have someone who makes it so easy to follow.
Thank you so much David, I appreciate your kind words!
This channel is simply God Tier. Every week more gaming geek goodness. Thank you John!
Lol thank you XR and very welcome!
Thanks for putting this video together Wagner tech talk ! I’m not that computer savvy and have been reluctant to connect a Pc cause I would have no idea how to do this. But these games look amazing ! I’m definitely missing out on some great tables.
This video gives me more confidence that I can do this OTG. So Thankyou.
Very welcome, I hope the video+guide helps you to play what you want. These tables are fun, I actually even enjoyed My Little Pony and Trolls more than I thought I would. lol
Thank you for making this video and the guides!
Very welcome Jackie! Thank you for checking them out.
Bonjour. MERCI pour ce Super tuto d'installation. Au plaisir de vous suivre.
Très bienvenu, merci pour votre aimable soutien!
Now that this tutorial is available, looks like I have no choice but to finally get Pinball FX. I already have all the Pinball FX3 tables :)
Good luck- I felt immense sadness playing old tables in the new engine and its the first time Ive hovered over the refund button on Steam. My feeling is old tables no- new tables Yeah sorta- My Little Pony and Borderlands play okay- but have the nagging feeling they would be better in the FX3 engine. I have a 4090oc and 64Gb of Ram, my system is no slouch and I echo many of the same complaints in reviews.
Thank you once again John! Excellent tutorial video kind sir!
Thank you so much for watching So18W! I'll check out your channel, sounds like a topic I may be interested in also 😉
@@WagnersTechTalk Very cool. Brother thank you! Feel free to contact me anytime! My email is in the about section.
Thanks as always for your content 👍
Most welcome Chris, thank you for watching!
9:08 thanks this helped 👍
Great to hear, happy to help PJ! It would be great to collab sometime brother.
your videos are a god send! thank you so much!
I appreciate it Glynn, you're very welcome and happy they are helpful to you!
Thank you! Great video!!!
Very welcome, thank you for watching!
Thank you... your content is A-mazing!!
Much appreciated BP!
John you should release self help tapes (or mp3s now ) that people used to listen to when they sleep and supposedly retain the information. You have that non aggressive teaching voice. Where my voice tapes would be more along the line of the late great comedian Sam kinison! Lol
Great work as usual.
I loved Sam Kinison, he was such a great comedian! Over the years of doing this YT thing, you're the first to ask. Never really thought about it, thank you for your very kind comments and encouragement!
Cool video. Unfortunately this does a significant disservice to the quality of the newer full DMD's. Squishing them down to a 4:1 aspect hurts the look significantly in my opinion. It would be nice if someone would do a backglass with space for a Full DMD cut out instead of cookie cutting them into the same template. But I appreciate everything you do for the community and I enjoy all of your content. Thank you.
One of these days, I'll actually get a dedicated DMD. At this point, may wait for the 4kP for that. Thank you for your feedback and kind comments!
Thank you for your time making this. I was really hoping Xpaddr would help eliminate the one issue I've had for several weeks; latency on the right flipper (left is fine) Unfortunately, even with Xpaddr, I still have that issue. ALP native tables run fine. I've tried innumerable tweaks recommended by videos; no luck, After weeks on the project, I think I'm going to throw in the towel. I hope someday AtGames adds some of the more popular tables to their catalog.
Hi Terrence, very welcome! Xpaddr helped tremendously on my machine over j2k, however the specs of your PC play a big factor in the performance. Before you throw in the towel, if you're using an NVIDIA card please try this: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Improve_Latency_with_NVIDIA_GPUs . On my machine, it did help as well as with the person who sent me the info. Might improve the performance on your machine as well.
@@WagnersTechTalk OK, I just tried that, no diff. What's really odd is that it's only the right flipper; left is fine. Even holding down the flipper is odd; it goes up and then back down, as though I released the flipper button. Also, when I use the keyboard shift keys as paddles, it (right flipper) works just fine. I'm tempted to order replacement buttons that advertise to be more responsive than the OEM. It's just odd that the ALP tables all work just fine. BTW, I have also tried a new USB cable.The PC is a Dell OptiPlex with Core I7-3770 4 core processor, 16 gb RAM, and an SSD. I added a GeForce RTX 2060 GPU
Ah, you have the right-flipper issue. Please try this: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Right_Flipper_Issue . Many don't, but some do. Haven't figured out the root cause, but we have a fix for it: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Right_Flipper_Issue
@@WagnersTechTalk BINGO! Right flipper is now working as advertised. There might be a very slight hesitation remaining, but it's certainly playable. Thank you ever so much for your assistance!
@@terrenceryan8773 My pleasure, happy I could assist. Have fun!
John can you do a video on making videos? I’m being 100%honest here. Some things to learn like how to cut down some video and add it to a second video etc . I’m still using a iPhone camera and shooting everything in one full take. When I was an actor for all of 3 months , a director would love if you could shoot one continuous scene. But it doesn’t work so well when your trying to 1) work on a machine yourself and 2) also worrying about if the people can see what your doing etc. I know your busy but I can follow your tutorials . 😊
I shoot all my video using a Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra. Sure I do have other cameras that I use, when needed. I just prefer the image quality from my phone. The channel hasn't grown to a point where I would even consider an expensive $2-6k dedicated camera and honestly I don't know that I would use it if I had one. I don't know that I would be a good candidate to make a video on making videos. Years ago, I had started a project like that but never finished it. I record most everything without voice, then do a first rough-edit where the main scenes I want in the video are included/organized. Then I write a script around each scene and edit further with voice-overs. This is why I'm rarely on camera. I probably do things backassward lol. This doesn't work for every kind of content.
Hello - thanks for all your great and helpful videos. Have you tried to set up the new Pinball M on the Atgames Legends Pinball? Since it is made by Zen, I would imagine the set up would be similar to FX. Do you think you will make a separate video for Pinball M setup on the ALP?
Thank you so much! What's available at the moment is a demo that doesn't yet have Cabinet support. But, hope to find out more about Pinball M this week while in Chicago (more here: wagnerstechtalk.com/pe2023/ )
Thank you so much for your instructional videos. They have been a great resource and I am very grateful. I am new to virtual pinball on the ALP. Started with FX steam and Xpadder (using your guide) on new build with specs well over required. Notice a small amount of flipper lag that is tough to get used to. Is that something that cannot be eliminated completely? Is there same slight lag with Pinup Popper? Thanks in advance.
Very welcome on the guides, great to hear they have been helpful to you! I think Pinball FX has just a little inherent lag. If you were to compare FX to FX3, you'll notice a difference in responsiveness (you can use the same xpadder profile for either). I've mentioned it to Zen but haven't heard back. It's not bad, but it is a bit noticeable. VPX/FP plays pretty well with the xpadder profile also.
Hello. First thanks alot of these very helpful videos of ALP🤝 You’ve helped alot so far👍 Unfortunately I have issue with Xpadder right flipper & fixing doesn’t help. I have Steam version & never had Epic version. Luckily Joy2Key with your setting still works well with FX and even great with FX3.
Very welcome, thank you for your kind feedback! I've not heard where this section hasn't helped the right flipper issue, just wondering if perhaps this was missed? wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Right_Flipper_Issue
I'll update the comment regarding the Epic version having been installed previously. I've received enough feedback that it's safe to say that assumption wasn't correct.
Hi,
Thanks for your video!
For the buttons mapping, did you tried with x360ce ?
For me it works with PFX3 but not with PFX.
Thanks for your feedback.
Thank you, I did take a look at x360ce but found Xpadder to work well and only documented that option. In the future, I may add other options but j2k (latest version) did not work out well during my testing.
Great video, as usual. Do you have a tutorial on adding FX to Pinup Popper? I'm having a hard time with the nail busters guide.
Thank you! I don't at present, I have it listed for my todo list when I get back on the VPX guide.
FYI it seems to work a bit better to use Steam Input rather then add more middleware. If your using joy-to-key or xpadder you end up in a world of hurt. A little bit of work and you can get a much better experience. Less to break, easier to ensure consistency across emulators and popper, and you already have all the tools needed to get the accelerators and other features working for you in emulators that support it.
Please use whichever works best for you. In assisting many different folks on PFX, PFX3, VPX, FP, etc. my intent is to make the process as easy as possible, yet perform well. I receive a lot of trouble-shooting questions for various pinball applications and the methods I discuss are those that have worked best for me with the least amount of setup difficulty for the end-user to get up and running. Hope that all makes sense.
OMG …thank you Jon for getting me setup with these tables…just one thing I followed your instructions on getting BG andDMD on with the images but the scores don’t show up on the DMD while playing. Did I miss a step?? Regardless you da man for getting me this far
Hi Al, happy to hear it's just about there! My guess is that it's not something you missed/did wrong. Please see the first item here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Troubleshooting . I have seen where sometimes you press the VIBS Switch button after FX is loaded, the backglass+DMD won't show up or if you power off/on the ALP. Typically, if you exit FX and re-start it the backglass will appear after pressing "any key". But, if you already have FX running, you can also use the point above to force it to re-load. Hope that resolves the issue!
Thank you for yet another great easy to follow video! I have two questions for you. My left flipper seems unresponsive at times in FX3 and in FX. it doesn't feel like lag as it just does not respond at times. This is with using joy to key for fx3 and xpadder in FX. My other question is for FX what is the main difference of using this over FX3? Thanks again for any feedback sir
Hi Levi, thank you for your kind comments and for checking out the video! If it's occurring with FX and FX3, it very possibly may be the left flipper button itself. Mine has recently started acting up also (left flipper). I ordered a set of replacement buttons but haven't yet put them on ( link where I ordered: www.ebay.com/itm/392436810423 ). In my case, I can often power off the ALP for about 5 min, power it back on and it's fine. It doesn't happen all the time, but often enough to be a little irritating.
Looks good to go thus far. I followed the setting accordingly, but the DMD is small in comparison to the space provided if that makes any sense. I am not sure why the configuration seems correct, not sure if there is a setting I missed.
The DMD is small, the numbers in the guide match the outline around the artwork. If yours doesn't, maybe there was something missed. Also, you can easily change the values if you want to make the DMD larger.
Your guides are so perfect and easy to understand. I have a weird situation going on. Xpadder works perfect for me, but when I have it running and using VPX and make the leaderboard and have to place my initials into the screen using either the left or right flipper to choose a letter it seems to skip. For example, I try and select the letter "B" and it jumps from "A" to "C". If I turn off Xpadder then I do not seem to have the issue at all. Any idea on how I could resolve this? I assume that there must be some confusion with VPX and Xpadder that is causing some issue. Not sure if in Xpadder I need to choose different mapping for Left and Right Flipper?
Thank you very much! Make sure that you don't have any button mappings already made in VPX and/or running Joy2Key when Xpadder is running. Based on what you stated above, it sounds like there is another tool in the mix that is interfering with the Xpadder mapping?
@@WagnersTechTalk I am having the same issue. So I do not have J2K running at all, but i do have controls mapped in VPX. Would the easiest fix be to remove the mapping in VPX and that way xpadder would be the default program for controls?
Thank you ! Do you know if there is there are any plans for eye tracking?
Most welcome, I'm not aware of any plans for eye tracking.
I’m getting the twitchy right flipper as well. Gonna try your remapping fix later.
Curious if you had the Epic version of FX installed previously to setting up the Steam FX version?
@@WagnersTechTalk No. I just downloaded it a few days ago after it became available outside of Epic.
@@madastra Very good to know, thank you!
I had to change the mapping on the right flipper to any other key than the one the creator chose. That fixed it for me.
Thanks Wagner! Did you experience laggy gameplay as well as flipper lag when you used joy2key on FX? I’m experiencing ball lag most of the time.
FX3 runs perfect for me. My gaming laptop should handle FX with graphics on medium.
I’ll check out the other controller mapping you suggested.
Thank you!
Hey Jason, yes I did and wrote about it in the guide here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Button_Mapping . It was unusable with j2k on my machine (FX3 was also fine here with j2k). j2k did not work well with FX and don't know why (mentioned in the video). However, xpadder was an option I came across, tried it and was a night-day difference (not perfect, but much better). Even FX3 was more responsive using xpadder. There may be some optimizations needed in FX itself to bring it up a bit. I have a few messages into Zen but haven't heard back yet. They have been very helpful and fully expect I'll hear back soon.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you so much! You are the man! 👍🏻
Dear Wagner, thank you once again for your great content. I am playing Pinball FX on my Atgames Legends Pinball (the original large one) in cabinet mode. I had originally used JoyToKey but had realized lag in the response between pressing the flipper button and the flippers actually moving. Your video here pointed me towards Xpadder which I gladly purchased and installed. It solved the issue (THANKS!) and work(ed) perfectly up to around April/May 2023. But since about July 2023 I have a severe delay between pressing the button and the flipper moving. I even decreased the graphics quality but this didn't help. I am wondering if this has something to do with an update from Pinball FX and if you have the same issue. I have only installed one more game after that on my PC (Forza Horizon 5) and otherwise not changed the system.
Thank you so much for your kind comment and you're very welcome for the content! I've not noticed anything lately and was playing it earlier this month. I'm currently focusing on Legends Pinball 4KP information, but if you have an NVIDIA GPU, see if this helps: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Improve_Latency_with_NVIDIA_GPUs . It did make a difference here.
I have the Alp, but setup the backglass as my DMD and a 40 inch monitor above that as my back glass. What would the settings be for a setup like that? I’m going to try the fx3 numbers and see if that works, just wanted to see if you had the numbers for that, or if anyone else did. Thanks for another awesome video!
My ALP doesn't have a DMD, so I don't have the #'s for it. Though, you can easily move the displays around in FX by using the arrow keys. I hope to have some settings soon as I'll be working on the OTG setup for the 4KP.
Hi John, thank you for all of the wonderful content you provide. I'm trying to decide on whether to get a Steamdeck or PC to run pinball tables on the AtGames Legends Pinball. Any thoughts that might help me make this decision? I noticed in this video you are running FX using a PC - will Steamdeck be able to run this directly in the future?
Hi Chris, thank you for your kind comment! I've asked Zen directly about Steam Deck support, they told me it's in their plans but supporting PC's in cabinet mode is their current priority. I don't have any content, at this time, on FX for the Steam Deck, but may in the future (it's still a little over a week ago when it was released on Steam). I do have Steam Deck content with FX3, VPX and FP which you can find here: wagnerstechtalk.com/sd-alp . I love my Steam Deck, it's about the only portable gaming device I use. If you need more info. on that, you can check it out here: wagnerstechtalk.com/steamdeck (lots of stuff, more coming as soon as I can get it completed). As to which to buy, it's not an easy question and one I can't answer honestly. Each has it's pros/cons and something you'll have to weigh based on what you want to do.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks so much for the quick reply - recognizing this is kind of a personal decision, your input really helps. Keep up the great work and thank you for everything you do for the community!
Is there a way to get the accelerometer to work with the ALP in OTG mode? I don't mind the nudge buttons, but do like to push the table too :)
Honestly, not sure at this point. If I (or someone else) figures it out, I'll add it to the guide. FX has only been out on Steam for about a week at this point, there is more to be done. The good thing about a written guide is it's dynamic and can be enhanced as we learn more.
Hey Wagner. I followed your entire guide, but for some reason I am unable to use my plunger. Has anyone else run into this?
I've not received any reports of the plunger not working, but I have about the right-flipper. Are you able to press+hold the front nudge button to launch the ball? I documented how to change the mapping for the right flipper here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Right_Flipper_Issue . You can use this information to help re-map the plunger.
Thanks John! Very helpful video, thanks for your time and efforts! I had this working using a mini pc, but the specs weren’t quite enough for smooth gameplay. Now i’m trying to use a recently acquired gaming laptop but running into trouble withe the displays. I get 3 displays, 1 to ALP OTG, 1 to Vibs, and the native laptop screen. I cannot get the playfield to show on screen 1. I can reposition the the laptop display to the far right but it still remains display 1 and playfield remains 2. I’m not a windows guy, longtime Mac user. I’m sure its something stupid but I just cant get it right. Any ideas?
Hi Kelly, the important thing is to make sure the playfield is on the far-left (numbers don't matter), followed by the backglass to the right of the playfield, then the laptop screen to the right. That should get you going.
@@WagnersTechTalk I’ll try that, thanks. I appreciate you taking the time. The expadder controller change from joy2key worked great for me too, other than the B/C and Y/Z buttons on the legends pinball arcade panel being swapped. Thanks again.
Hey! Thanks for this very detailed tutorial, you can help a lot of players. Keep up the good content!
Thank you kindly!
Thanks for all your hard work. Does FX3 allow for a real DMD/3rd screen?
Very welcome, I think you mean FX right? If so, you can reposition the DMD to a 3rd screen yes. I don't have one here myself, but should be good on that if you do.
Thanks for the video!
I set it up using Joy 2 Key, but I found the flipper lag to be really high. Is that why you're using the Xpadder?
Hi Rick, I encountered the same. That is why I went with Xpadder and it made a huge difference on my machine.
@@WagnersTechTalk You rock thanks!
This was awesome, but I am having one small problem. I am not getting sound from the cabinet after following this setup. I think I narrowed it down to the UDB-C cable to the VIBS board, because when I unhooked everything when done, I forgot to disconnect the cable to the VIBS board, and I wasn't getting sound from the built in games. I though I blew something, then realized I forgot to disconnect that cable. Once I did, sound was back.
My setup is a laptop, so I have on HMDI and I use the thunderbolt for the backglass display. I do hear some pops and scary sounds when I click the button to switch to the backglass display. I also checked that all cable are securely inserted.
It might be that you need to click the speaker icon in the lower-right of the taskbar in Windows. Make sure it’s set to output audio to the primary HDMI output (your playfield). Once set properly, the audio should play through just fine.
@@WagnersTechTalk Yep, silly me. I don't know why I didn't check that first. Maybe it is just my situation, but on my laptop, it defaulted to displayport sound as soon as I plug in the USB-C to HDMI cable in (which to me actually makes sense), but I had to switch it to plain old speakers. Thanks.
Thank you sir for the great tutorial! I used your fx3 guide and everything has been flawless! following this guide the graphics seem glitchy. any ideas on a solution? Thank you in advance if you do. Levi
Very welcome, happy to hear it's been helpful to you! When you say glitchy, can you please explain a bit more? Is it not smooth animations? If so, please let me know more about the kind of PC you're using. It could be due to the hardware being used isn't sufficient for smooth playback. Also, could be an optimization needed to the Graphics card (GPU). You'll find some information on NVIDIA GPU changes toward the bottom of the guide that you may find helpful. If you don't find an answer in the Troubleshooting section, I'll try to help.
@@WagnersTechTalk its the pc. time to upgrade. thanks for responding.
I cannot get the dmd or backglass to display with games. I followed the exact steps in your guide for cabinet mode and enabling the dmd. it's like it shows when I hit alt-tab but it never displays
Try exiting FX entirely and going back in. The values in the guide should have you setup. Double check the display settings also (1920x1080, scale 100%). Make sure the playfield is the left-most display, backglass immediately to the right of it and both are aligned perfectly at the top in the Display settings. I've done this 3-4 times in the past month, if everything is correct you should be good.
How does FX do with the Hepatics Kit from BuyStuff? Can we separate out sounds like VPX, or is it like FX3?
No, can't separate the audio like on VPX. It operates more like FX3. I have a little more info here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Q_A
For those who will want to run both FX and FX3, is Xpadder capable of supporting both as a single solution rather than having to juggle between it and JoyToKey?
Yes, please see here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Q_A for more info.
Once again, you have proven to be a gentleman and a scholar. Many thanks!
Do you need a code from Zen to use the Legends Pinball as with FX3?
You do with FX3 for cabinet mode. For FX (shown in this video) and Pinball M, you do not need a code.
Wait, where's the THING letters on the backglass? TPA had them in cab mode, and it's a vital part of the game being able to keep track of each letter you get.
First off, love the videos and appreciate everything you've done for this community. I've got everything working on FX and have Xpadder working, but for some reason my right flipper just immediately toggles off. Meaning I can't HOLD the ball, it is only capturing the single click, with no hold. The Right flipper works just fine! Tried to find similar issues, but no luck, so hoping someone here can help. I've got Xpadder working on FX3 just fine for both flippers, as well as verified that it works with Joy2Key, but with the noted lag. Am I missing a setting in FX for Xpadder?
Hi James, very welcome and thank you for watching! Yes, it's a known issue for some. But sure why, but there is a solution to it here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Right_Flipper_Issue
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you so much, I missed this when looking through the documents! Appreciate the help.
Thank you for this! I wanted to ask if there's any way to use the built-in steam controller mapping. In the steam settings, it seems to be detecting the legends pinball as a controller and the buttons register as button presses, however when I start up Pinball FX it doesn't seem to use the mapping.
I prefer not to use Steam's mapping for various reasons. I use the one single xpadder profile for FX, FX3, VPX and FP. I prefer a single simple solution that works for everything. Steam mapping only works for FX/FX3, if you can get everything mapped correctly. I had issues with it, that's why I haven't added it to the guide.
@@WagnersTechTalk that all makes sense, thanks! I ended up just using XPadder. It was great being able to plug and play those mappings you provided!
If anyone is curious about steam controller. I just needed to enable steam input controllers in the Pinball FX properties (in steam, not the in game settings).
Not sure if you have any other tips for reducing lag. It seems to be with the monitor. I'm using an MSI gaming laptop with a gtx 1050 and an "ultra high speed hdmi" cable. Using the buttons and the laptop display I'm able to play with no problem but when I switch Pinball FX to the ALP display, there's a noticeable lag that makes it almost unplayable. It seems to be apparent even in the XPadder window so I don't think it's an issue with the Pinball FX settings. The display framerate is set to 59Hz. I've also tested with another computer monitor and it also seems fine. Is there anything else you'd suggest trying before I look into swapping out the ALP monitor?
@@roneld23 Can't tell if you've seen this, but it has made an improvement on my machine: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Improve_Latency_with_NVIDIA_GPUs
@@WagnersTechTalk Yep, tried those to no avail :( Thanks though!
Is this possible to set up without the VIBS board? I am trying to find out and having a bit of trouble. Thanks!
I've only installed with a VIBS board + backglass, but I assume it will work without it. Might have to play around with the settings some.
@@WagnersTechTalk Just as an fyi for people possibly doing the same thing, I received my legends pinball and it works no problem without the VIBS board, its been great!
Hey ... I was curious on when we can get the new backbox art for Texas chainsaw massacre along with the newest additions to pinball fx like night rider
Ok, I get everything setup and working. For some reason all my back art displays except for the South Park tables? It just shows the file path on a black screen.
It just means it's missing the backglass image. You can find another source of backglass images here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp4k-pcsetup/#Backglass_Image_Setup . Write down the image name you're missing, unzip the archive and copy the image to the same folder as you did before.
I just bought myself a at legions micro will the settings be exactly the same?
Yes indeed! If you picked up the VIBS for the Micro, you can utilize the backglass with Pinball FX. More details on this page: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro
I have a question, please. When I installed XPadder, it didn't look like yours does. I don't have the controller icon to allow me to add anything. That spot on the app is blank for me. Any idea how to get the controller icon to appear? Thanks!
Hi Rick, if you received the download from Xpadder (info. here wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Purchase_Xpadder ), it should look identical to the one shown in this video. Click the "?" icon in the upper-right and double-check you have Version 2022.05.01. If not, v2022.05.01 is the only version I tested.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! I hadn't turned on the ALP, so Xpadder didn't recognize a controller attached. Once I turned it on, all went as it should have. My bad. Thanks for the reply! You rock!
Ah, makes sense! I should document that in the Troubleshooting section :) Glad you're up 'n running! EDIT: Added to the TS section.
Is there a tutorial on how to create the backglass art so we can keep up with new releases?
I don't have a tutorial on that specifically, however an easy way to check is when you don't have an image just look at the backglass screen for the filename. Then, create/find/copy the backglass artwork you would like added to the folder mentioned in the written guide that has the same filename. It needs to be 1920x1080.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you for the quick response. I appreciate your tutorials.
Very welcome, thank you for your kind comments!
Regarding the fx M pinball ... I have the art work downloaded to my pc however it doesn't wanna appear on the back glass. Has like a error messege. How do I fix this issue
It's likely showing you the full path and filename where the image files should be copied. Double-check the path it's showing you and make sure the files are in that folder with the correct file extension shown. Then, restart FX and see if the images show up then.
@WagnersTechTalk thank you, and on another note regarding and new tables that come to pinball fx like star trek. Do I download the art from your website??
I am having issues with DMD not being able to be enabled on dot matrix screen . I have the back glass images and the DMD is on main playfield . All I have is windowed and disabled on the dot matrix options . Any ideas?
Hi Dave, have you set the DMD Window according to these settings wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Dot_Matrix_Window_Setup ? Or are you trying to use a separate DMD, it's not clear from your question.
@@WagnersTechTalk Yes just the standard Legends pinball without any additional screens . I am able to change the window size by entering the values as you outlined ,but not able to change from the two choices of enabled or windowed for the dot
Matrix window. I even tried to deactivate and go back in and that produced the same result .
I being told that it is the way it will operate going forward because of the addition of adding additional external screens .
This recent patch introduces Freezy's DMD extension tool - "External DMD Device", which is why there's no simple Enabled/Disabled setting.
With pinball M. Do I need to download DMD freezy files to beable to function my DMD for pinball M ? Cause it won't let me move my score screen down to my DMD screen like I can on Pinball fx
The window positioning in M is nearly the same implementation as in FX. Are you running on the ALP HD or 4KP? If on the 4KP, this guide should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp4k-pcsetup . At the bottom, you'll see what values were used for all displays in FX and M ( wagnerstechtalk.com/alp4k-pcsetup/#Cabinet_Settings ).
@@WagnersTechTalk I am running HD ALP
The same settings you use in FX should work in Pinball M just fine.
I'm going to purchase the Mars 4k in the next week or so and have a question a probably know the answer to😅
Can you run the pinball fx from an Xbox? I'm guessing no, but 🤞
Thank you!
I've not heard anyone try it on the 4KP, I personally have not and don't think you can.
Looks like I'ma buying a computer too. Shouldn't be to different from window 3.1, right? 😅
Thank you!!
Is there a way to map the keys thru steam and also to use the bitpixel i can use jottokey i already have it running something
Yes, you can map the keys through Steam. It's not something I cover, at present.
@@WagnersTechTalk is it something you may in the future
@@ZeroCool423 BitPixel doesn't appear to be supported, currently for FX (from what I see here pixelcade.org/pindmd-guide ). But yes, I may cover/document it in the future. Some of what drives future related-content is the likes/subscribers to a video or topic. It helps me determine what it is people are really interested in and wanting help with. The FX3 guide was one of those videos and why FX is being covered here and of course most all AtGames videos. Those aren't the only factors, but a few indicators that help.
Where did you get the usb to dual hdmi adapter?
What I used can be found here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Hardware_Recommendations . It's under the PC / Asus ROG Ally point.
that particular item it's not listed there
How would Pinball FX work on a steam deck using Lengends Pinball Micro?
Check out this video from Raskull ua-cam.com/video/fIjbzRG_tKg/v-deo.html
I don't get what I'm doing wrong my screen doesn't give me the icon to browse and open the file layout 😤. I watch the video and read the instructions but I'm just at a standstill 😢.
Are you talking about Xpadder? If so, make sure the PC is connected to the ALP via the OTG cable. Should be able to load up the profile.
Thank you for your help it's working perfectly now.😊
Does this same method work for steam pinball FX I'm Launchbox but in regular horizontal orientation?
It's not clear what you're wanting to do. In this video, I demonstrate how to setup cabinet mode. Is that what you're wanting? If so, please explain your idea a bit more.
@@WagnersTechTalk i want to be able to add the individual tables to Launchbox and launch straight into the table from Launchbox.
Zen recently released an update to Pinball FX that supports launching via a command-line. I've personally not used it, nor Launchbox in quite sometime. I'm not going to be much help to you, at the present time, with this. Instead, I would recommend posting to the PinballFX3 Subreddit here: www.reddit.com/r/PinballFX3 . There is an FX forum, but with very few members. The FX3 subreddit has more members that are more likely to provide you with some assistance.
@@WagnersTechTalk awesome thank you very much.
Hey guys ... I ran the steps however I'm having a issue getting the backglass image up.... it just shows my windows desk top. Where did I go wrong ???
Howdy! Double check that you have the Windows displays setup left-right (playfield, backglass, dmd, etc.) More on that here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Windows_Display_Configuration . Then, you should be able to follow along and move the backglass display. Hope it helps, lots of info. on that page that should get you going.
Thank you... one difference is I have 3 window displays up not just 2. I have ordered the new backbox 2.0 but have not got it yet. Im new to this and hope I can get this figured out
In that case, setup the displays arranged in Windows as (left to right), playfield, backglass and then DMD. Make sure each is aligned perfectly across the top of each display. Here are the settings I used with the ALP 4KP that may be helpful to you: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp4kevt/#4K . However, the 4KP has a 4k display for the playfield and therefor the numbers may need to change for you. In that case, you can use the UI to adjust the settings to fit properly fit.
I don't have the 4k ALP. I'm staying with the HD but upgrading to the 2.0 back box from buystuff store. So im just curious if I did something wrong with the back box image files
Will installing this along side of fx3 cause and issues??
No sir.
Nice Thank You@@WagnersTechTalk
What issue did you encounter using Joy2Key?
j2k was very laggy/unusable with FX. At least on my machine.
Does anyone else not see a Mods folder in the Steam folders? I have my cabinet code and everything and have played, would be great to get the backglass artwork loaded up!
Are you talking about FX or FX3? FX doesn't require a cabinet code, you activate it from within the Options menu. FX3, on the other hand, does require a cabinet code.
@Wagner's TechTalk ah I'm on FX 3!
In that case, see the 3rd point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations . This guide will help you get setup.
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks, Mr. Wagner! Your guides have been so valuable!
Pretty badass thanks
What does FX offer that FX3 doesn't (other than the opportunity to re-purchase tables)? At face value It looks to me like it still doesn't compare to VPX and FP.
I hear you on the re-purchase part. I've bought many tables on multiple platforms (starting with xbox 360). I think it really depends on each individual. Some want something fairly easy to setup. Baller Installer definitely makes it easier than it used to be, but still a bit more complicated than FX/FX3. I'd recommend trying the 3 free tables included, if there are any others that are of interest then up to you. My goal is to show how to set it up. I like and play FX, FX3, VPX & FP and rotate between them all.
@@WagnersTechTalk So it really doesn't offer anything except different tables? What a bummer. Definitely doesn't seem worth the effort to bother setting up.
It uses the Unreal engine, offers improved effects, lighting, etc. It's not just the tables, there are other overall improvements. Best way to know for sure is to try some of the free tables and see what you think or watch some of the game play towards the end of this video for examples.
I have some feedback and a question or two.
I have the ASUS - TUF 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i7 with 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 - 1TB SSD, which seems to be a powerful PC. I tried both Xpadder and JoyToKey with the refresh rate set to 59Hz and graphics set to performance. JoyToKey works great, but I get a lot a frame dropping, tearing, etc. with Xpadder. Maybe this will help someone.
I get the same exact experience with both as far as key mapping. Nothing seems to work. I have the Arcade Control Panel, I followed instruction for loading the downloaded files, but I have to use the laptop keyboard to do anything. The trackball works, but when I hit A or X, all they do is overlay some keymaps on the cabinet screen and don't do anything. The front of the pinball machine does not function as it is supposed to. It seems I have to use the laptop keyboard for everything until I pick my table and then I can use the front nudge to start it. What am I doing wrong?
See the 4th point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Xpadder_Troubleshooting and see if that helps. On one machine, there was only one square at the top. On another, there were two. Apply the profile to both (if you see two) and see if that resolves the issue. The squares at the top are what your PC is seeing as the controller (i.e. the ACP). If one isn't working, it's likely the other. PC specs. seem good, should be able to play smoothly. However, the button mapping isn't likely going to impact gameplay performance.
Also, make sure to terminate j2k if you test Xpadder again. You don't want both running at the same time.
@@WagnersTechTalk This is what I found. With Xpadder up and not in the game yet, all the pressed buttons display properly in Xpadder when pressed. Good. I go into the game and now nothing works correctly, until I actually get into the board. When I go into the game, all buttons do "something" but not what they are supposed to do. The escape keys work, but Enter does not, so I cannot select anything. I have to use the laptop keyboard to do anything until I get into the board. The plunger actually works as Enter, but that is annoying to use to Select something to execute. Like I said before, the buttons display "keys" onto the screen, but they just not do anything, except Escape. This is the same with JoyToKey. I do appreciate immensely that you respond to me so quickly and the service you provide.
@@WagnersTechTalk Oh, and I forgot to say that I am at least smart enough to not have both kay mapping programs running at the same time.
@@MultiKevorkian That's odd, I'm using an ASUS laptop (over OTG with the ALP 4KP) as well with an i9/rtx 4070 and not experiencing the same. I meant no disrespect regarding j2k/xpadder being run at the same time. It's just something I've run into from some in the past when they had double-presses. Based on what you're saying, it sounds like something else may be interfering but I don't know what that is. You might try ditching Xpadder and j2k and see if Steam button mapping works for you. I can't honestly think of anything else it could be.
My otg mode keeps disconnecting when I go to play pinball fx on my ALP. Does anyone know why this could be happening ??
I had that happen with a BeeLink mini-PC that I tested sometime back. Turned out to be the BeeLink itself, I returned it. You can try a powered hub to see if that helps (it didn't in my case).
Powered hub as in usb bar ??... iv been running hdmi from my laptop to ALP along with USB
Powered USB Hub from the OTG connection on the ALP to your PC. See here for more: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting
So my mute button was turned on my pc. When I put up my volume the disconnecting stopped. I played a hour so far n it's been smooth. Thanks for help wagner!.
This valid for 4k legends pinball?
I will have new guides for ALP 4K, ramping up on it now.
Wait, do you need the vibs board?
If you want the backglass to work, yes.
@@WagnersTechTalk so all I have to do is configure in the app and plug it in?
@@MccTube First install the VIBS board, then configure FX as shown in the video and you should be rock'n and roll'n.
@@WagnersTechTalk but I don’t want to get a vibs board, will the main glass still work if I follow everything else?
@@MccTube Yes, you can set it up without the backglass. Same steps, just skip the part about the backglass.
Any lag? I had lag with fx3
I can't say there is no lag, but as you can see from the game play portion I didn't have any major issues. Now with j2k, yes you'll have extreme lag. With Xpadder on my fairly low-mid level PC setup, it worked good. FX3 played better also.
HEI Pinball FX does not display scores What is the reason?
If you setup the dmd as described here, you should see the dmd/score, etc.: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Backglass_Window_Setup
@@WagnersTechTalk ok thanks, i'll try again
@@WagnersTechTalk The score problem has been solved, but there is a new problem yesterday, suddenly the back flashed, and then the screen disappeared, and the screen came back after a while, but the mouse control has changed abnormally, and it is stuck. Now I can’t play it, but I play PINBALL FX 3 is normal, I play it with atgames legends pinball
I set mine up exactly like you did and I have considerable flipper lag. I have a pretty beastly system so I doubt that’s it. It has to be something FX is working on because it renders it unplayable in my opinion. They supposedly fixed the problem with a fix but it didn’t help with the lag at all.
What model GPU do you have? If it's an Nvidia, give this a try and see if it helps:
1) set the monitor frequency to 59Hz instead of the default 60Hz.
2) update the Nvidia 3D setting to favor Performance over Quality.
It's helped one other person, may be adding it to the guide soon.
of course, down loading windows updates to get my computer in check for this. My computer has now been taken over by peppermint OS when I went to reboot, it went to Peppermint OS install screen and I can't get off of it And I never download anything on this computer so much for playing pinball.
I can't help with Peppermint OS, I've not used it.
I haven't either didn't even download it
Anyone else experience that pinball f/x runs pretty bad compared to pbfx3? Something just feels sluggish. I'm running a pretty high end rig and have never had an issue running any current games at max settings....but this game....something feels off.
Just curious, are you mapping the buttons in steam, j2k or Xpadder?
@@WagnersTechTalk I'm not using it through the AGL machine. I gutted that machine a long time ago and am using an ULTIMARC IPAC 2 for the keys to button connection. My issue is just the way the game runs in general on my pc. It makes no sense why it plays the way it does. It's like it's just not optimized or something. I've tried tweaking the game settings , updating my computer drivers...nothing really makes it better.
@@gmee123 I'm guessing it likely runs poorly because it was just released 2 months ago. Pinball FX3 didn't run well at launch either. It took many updates for FX3 to be as polished as it is now.
Very poor optimization
I thought the Epuc version played and looked like garbage compared to FX3.
So in order to play the fx games you have to keep your pinball machine tethered to your pc?
You can’t just download the games straight on?
That’s a shame
You'll be happy to know, that will change with the new Legends 4KP. Please see here: ua-cam.com/video/fzFG0-eFMWk/v-deo.html . More details and closer look at this new machine here (going on pre-order tomorrow, for 3 days): wagnerstechtalk.com/alp4kevt
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you, I will check this out :)
Bonjour Wagner,
J ai un retard sur les flippers ce n est pas fluide...
Aidez moi.
Merci
Vous ne savez pas quel type de carte graphique ou de PC vous avez. Il se peut que votre machine/GPU soit sous-alimentée. Si vous utilisez un GPU NVIDIA, veuillez consulter ceci : wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx/#Improve_Latency_with_NVIDIA_GPUs
Bonjour Wagner,
Merci pour votre réponse.
Mon ordinateur est un Magic Book x15
Intel core i3-10110U CPU 2.10ghz 2.59ghz
Memeoire ram 8,00 go utilisable.
64 bits processeur x64.
Merci de votre retour.
Kevin
@@WagnersTechTalkpour info fx3 fonctionne parfaitement
I see you have the same issue. Lame how the new Godzilla King Kong tables don’t have a matching marquee that’s the same dimensions as all other tables.
You can always modify the artwork however you want, not a big deal really. I think it would be great if Zen included a set of official backglass images. Maybe they will someday.
@@WagnersTechTalk true, but I can barely read the marquee dmd.
It is small, but you could make it larger than the black area on the backglass images. I didn't in this tutorial as most will likely want the DMD positioned inside the black area of the backglass image. You can adjust the initial settings using the arrow keys and fit it exactly how you want.
@@WagnersTechTalk yeah but then all other marquees will be too big right? You can’t adjust a marquee for each table differently, correct?
It's global across all yes, not for each individual table. It means it might block some of the backglass art that you don't want it to depending on how large you make it.
it's a shame that you can't transfer all the games you purchased for other systems over to the PC version so you don't have to buy them over and over . I bought every table on the PlayStation 5, the Xbox one and the Xbox series X so that I can play them on those systems. Now I have to re-purchase them on steam. Why can't we all just get along?
I've done the same for Xbox 360, android, etc. I get it.
“Upgraded” to windows 11.
I'm a cabinet user - until FX is supported by DOF, DOFLinx, and SSF like FX3 is - why bother - seems like a downgrade.
I have alote of lag on the left flipper with pinballFx but none with PinballFx3. Anyone have a tip ??