an interesting one for me is the Looney Tunes Private Snafu 1945 short "Secrets of the Caribbean", it was completely finished but unreleased due to WW2 ending, the story is that the army was given the master of that short and they disposed of it due to having no real use for it anymore, but i've not heard any actual concrete evidence to back up that claim so it could potentially still be out there somewhere.
City had quite a lot of bumpers, especially internationally, so many of them easily slip under the cracks. And don't get me started on Toonix, the international version of Noods.
There was a local TV kids show in Denver called Blinky the Clown. It ran for like 50 years and apparently out of the thousands of episodes produced, only 10 are known to be taped. There's not a listing on the Lost Media Wiki, and I find this kind of fascinating
With Splatoon 3 releasing today, the alternate versions of Splatoon 2 and Splatoon 3 that we would have gotten had the other team won their respective final splatfests definitely sounds like it'd fit into this idea of theoretical lost media.
I haven’t finished the vid yet, but I’d just like to add that a good example of “Theoretical Lost Media”, would be all the books that existed in ancient times that we just don’t know anything about. Like, we don’t have complete lists of what books were available in the Library of Alexandria or Dar Al-Hikma, so who knows what’s exactly lost or not? And it’s also kinda sad to think about all the stories and songs that used to exist but don’t anymore and that there’s no info or references mentioning their existence.
One of the few comforts about ancient lost media is that they're so old that their legacy lived on through inspiring other ancient artists and being used as reference material for ancient historians.
@@mr_indie_fan I actually found out about it while browsing Wikipedia bored one day before Austin McConnell did his vid on it. The story is still funny even 2,000 years later.
@@r.jclark4641 TREY the Explorer did a great vid about this kind of topic, and this vid reminded me of TREY’s. I recommend checking it out if you haven’t already.
I think a REALLY good example of this is Banjo-Threeie. The whole thing at the end of Tooie was repeated ad nauseum in the early 2010s by game reviewers, but correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think there were ever any plans to make a "true" Banjo-Threeie. Like yeah there were planned follow-ups and sequels and by all technicality, Nuts and Bolts is the third game in the series, but "Banjo-Threeie" is nothing more than a gag by the developers.
I believe at least Mumbo or Humba Wumba makes a comment about having at least a 3 game contract and there being a joke of Threeie near the end of the game of Tooie. At least I remember that..
And please speak faster. We need to listen at 1.5x speed for you to sound almost normal. If you have reading issues, that's fine, but if not then stop acting like you're targeting pre-schoolers.
@@thegekkoguy189 it’s not he’s very slow and pronunciation out every single word, but talks fast af in his live streams. It’s just how he reads. I speed the vids sometime too.
@@thegekkoguy189 I hate to be mean but it's not only him. I have to use the speed option as well. it's not a big deal to me though since the speed option exists
My theoretically lost piece of media is a lost final cliffhanger scene in the series finale to the 2017 reboot of DuckTales. In 2021 it was revealed that the series was canceled and season 3 would be the last season. In response to this one of the show runners said on twitter something around the lines of this “We wrote every season finale to work as the series finale”. The thing is if you look back at the previous 2 season finales the final scene was always a cliffhanger to hype up the next season. My theory is that season 3 had a cliffhanger scene like this too, but it was cut when the crew found out it was going to be the last season. If this was the case, I wouldn’t even be shocked if only story boards exist of that scene.
I get why call it theoretical, but I'm not sold on the lost part, at least with the ones known to not exist. To get lost it has to exist first, doesn't it? Interesting topic nonetheless.
@@SparkieGoth some cancelled media maybe even most is worked on at least a little bit so there is still some stuff from it that exists at least sometimes
@@SparkieGoth cancelled media existed in a physical mediatic form of any stage of development, even if unreleased. These just don't exist, so they can't be lost if they weren't accessible by anyone (even their own creator)
By his logic, every single pitched idea that got rejected is also lost media. I can get it in a sense, though. But really for that idea calling it 'lost' isn't as accurate as calling it "a loss." It's a loss that we didn't get all these ideas never got any further than that, not that it's actually lost to time.
Sailor Moon's original dub by DiC/Cloverway never extended to the fifth season, called Sailor Stars. The dubbed version was heavily censored, and that original last season had many major plot points that would've been very difficult if not impossible to cut or rewrite to keep the same age rating. We don't know if there was an attempt made, but I'd be morbidly curious if there is some lost content for it that was from them trying to work out how to work around the Starlights gender bending and all the death.
Here’s a piece of theoretical lost media, the Cartoon Network 2017 April fools prank. What they did was insert google eyes into every character of all of their shows, and these episodes were exclusive to this day only. It’s safe to say that probably not all of the edited episodes were saved. It’s theoretical due to the fact that we don’t really know if we have all of the edited episodes, or if we don’t. I’m pretty sure we don’t have them all, but who knows.
Thank you for this. I guess an example would be songs written by the late Andrew Fletcher of Depeche Mode. At the time of his premature demise, just shy of four months ago, he was the only member of Depeche Mode - past or present - who had never written a song for the band. Now, of course, he never will. Any music that be would have written for the band was lost forever when he passed away. May his memory be a blessing. I'm a Depeche Mode fan, and it still hurts. 😔😢
Speaking of the ostrich segment, I have an experience kinda similar to that. I was a huge fan of the channel Black Nerd Comedy during the early to mid-2010's, and one series of his I watched the most was his reviews/recaps of the 2012 TMNT series. He covered most of the show, up until the season 5 episode, "Lone Rat and Cubs," and abruptly stopped reviewing the show after that. The final review doesn't give any indication that it was going to be the last one either, so I sometimes wonder if Andre had reviews of any of the remaining episodes that were scrapped for whatever reason.
I loved to see you mention scykoh because his glitch quest is the reason im so into pokemon and the glitches that infest those games, along with just glitches in general after seeing his glitchfests
This reminds me of my theory of there being a lost Pokémon episode with Ash as a Pikachu. For context, at the end of the episode Hocus Pokémon, Ash gets accidentally turned into a Pikachu by a spell gone wrong, but while he doesn't revert back before the episode's end, he does right at the beginning of the following one. Since I feel the concept of a human turning a into Pokémon has too much potential to be used so briefly in the anime, I've considered the possibility of there being an episode planned to be in between them, in which he's transformed for the entirety of the episode, which got scrapped early on.
@@SSJacksWolf What I was trying to say is that the main Pokémon anime has not explored the narrative possibilities of a human being transformed into a Pokémon to the degree it could have.
@@SSJacksWolf It has 3 episodes, one of which isn't related and the other two don't tell a linear story. Plus it's a bit different than being turned into a pokemon in the actual normal human-Pokemon world like Ash was. Still a great anime tho, I wish they expanded on it.
Self or Selph from the semi-obscure game franchise NiGHTS Into Dreams is technically considered "lost media" since that character was originally meant to be a SECRET UNLOCKABLE boss fight after completing the objectives whether hidden or shown in some ways just like how the classic Sonic games have objectives to get the Chaos Emeralds. But alas Self was cut due to lacking enough time to prioritize NiGHTS' 1996 SEGA Saturn debut unfortunately, Self is so far 1 of the NiGHTS' fandom holy grail of NiGHTS lost media. Well any 'Self' related concept art or official art is considered as "theoretical or potential lost media" since it has yet to be found, whether via data mining the original NiGHTS game and its prototypes or through other methods. Another "potential or theoretical NiGHTS game related lost media" is the so called rumored "Air NiGHTS Sequel" project for the SEGA Dreamcast, before said console got discontinued along with SEGA's unfortunate console war dropout. Nothing else much known about the Air NiGHTS project other than perhaps another code name for NiGHTS' game sequel NiGHTS Journey of Dreams. Yeah, Air NiGHTS is kinda "POTENTIAL OR THEORETICAL LOST MEDIA" to me at least. I really do recommend checking out DigiValentine's videos about NiGHTS, especially the 1s about the NiGHTS data mining for the original SEGA Saturn game where a lot of NiGHTS related discoveries have been made there! That data mining fan project started last year and still continues, 25 plus years since that game's release finally revealing its secrets after such difficulties and long time to eventually figure out the SEGA Saturn's code. Also DigiValentine's 1 of the NiGHTSIntoDreams' fandom website's cofounder/co-admininistrator as well as gaining connections with SEGA themselves from a 1 time Sonic mascot job to attending some official Sonic related events that SEGA invited him over and his girlfriend also made official but unfortunately unreleased NiGHTS related artwork as stickers.
Fellow NiGHTS fan here, and I love you for making the comment before I could, we need more attention on Selph so we can get people talking, and maybe increase our chances of finding them.
how about doing a video about media in danger of becoming lost, as a sort of warning for the community. Whay i mean is that they are technically not lost, but are very hard to find /its sources of availability are slim. my best example of this would be something like infinity train, or other streaming exclusive delisted content
In that same theme, you could include many of the 3ds/dsiware and the wiiu digital exclusives that are going to disappear after the 3ds and wiiu's eshop closure on march of the next year
One example of theoretical lost media would be the continuation series after Hot Wheels acelleracers. It ended on a huge cliffhanger and it’s unknown if a continuation was ever planned, or if it ever made it into any stage of development. There’s nothing to suggest that it did exist except for the cliffhanger
here is a semi-lost media that people didn't know or talk about it yet. When I work as intern at one of the animation studio X, they show use their studio reel which is similar to what they show on their site. Until at the end of the reel there's an one Mock Up animation of He-Man in a Marvel's Super Hero Squad style in fully 2D rig style. In that shot, He-Man as Prince Adam pull his iconic sword transformation, but nothing happen. He shaking his sword (like when you hit the flashlight when it wont work) and do again. Then he become He-Man and they show the Title (I forgot the full name) then after that we see Skeletor as Marvel's Super Hero Squad style but bigger head and smaller (super cute) sneak into random space-car and jump in it and ride off. The End. I really like that shot so much, I tried to find it but I can't (cos I didn't work on the project) and later on I heard that they decide the scrap the project due to the backlash of The new Thunder Cat Reboot (IMOP they r super different). I think at the end the pitch become He-Man and the Masters of the Universe on Netflix, but I could be wrong on that one. I have no clue where is the mock up shot anymore as far as I know my intern studio sent it off the client and can't access to the shot any more. Thats the not so good part about working as outsource.
Great video dude. something worth noting that could be theoretical lost media was in my Toonami Iceberg video that a Cartoon Network Nood Bumper could exist as Toonami was still around during the first 3 months of the Nood Era. i even made a mockup to go along with it. speaking of Mockups. i think coming up next bumpers mockups of the nood era are probably my favorite!
A Bright Way Productions English dub of the Tamagotchi anime past season 1 is my personal favorite piece of theoretical lost media since it’s fun to think how characters introduced in later episodes could’ve sounded like.
The only anime I’m familiar with that dubbed the omake are Demon Slayer and Cardcaptor Sakura. There’s probably more, but western networks likely cut out the bleach ones due to commercial breaks
you could consider the owl house season 3 under this, since they had to severely truncate an entire season's worth of content and change the story with the cut to 3 extended specials, and we won't get to see what could have been in a full third season
This is probably the greatest example I've seen of theorethical lost me- Wait, I have an even better one!! Do you know Epithet Erased? It was going to have 5 seasons but the lack of budget made the show to only produce Season 1. Now Season 2A will come in the form of a novel, but well...
I recently posted about some local Lost media of my country (Spain) in the Lost media wiki forums, and all of them had examples of this theoretic Lost media. One of the topics was sketchs from a programming block called Club Super 3, of which probably hundreds if not thousands existed. There obviously are no lists of every single one, but the "plot" sketchs followed a timeline we do know. On the other hand, I shared about 2 TV shows (Spain's first animated TV show and a catalan shorts compilation show), of which there are no episode lists. One because its from the 60s and finding that kind of stuff from the era is nearly impossible, while the other one just wasn't archived properly, even tho It released in the late 2000s. I still do find these topics interesting, and the more supposed media can be found, the better!
The idea of theoretical lost media made me think of one from my tv watching experience: On Seattle, WA’s local channels between 2004 and 2006 (no cable for me back then), there were lots of commercials for Orville Redenbacher popcorn that were the old ads from the 70’s featuring Orville, with modern title cards at the end. Once I remember seeing an Orville Redenbacher ad similar to those, except it was the outtakes (or made to look like the outtakes) of his classic ads, for humorous effect. He’d start to talk about his popcorn, but then spill the pot of popcorn he was holding mid-sentence, and he even got swarmed by bees in another scene. It seems like this commercial would have gotten internet buzz for how strange and funny it was, but I can’t find it or mention of it anywhere.
This makes me think of something that I'm not sure if you could consider Lost Media, but it's a unreleased yugioh card. Back in 2021, Konami hired soccer player antoine griezmann as an ambassador of sorts to promote the game, and they said that they would release a card featuring him in the future. However about a month later a video surfaced of antoine and another soccer player harassing an asian hotel worker and he was dropped by konami. So we don't exactly know if the card was already made and just not released or if they had just announced it and were planning on working on it later. We may never know.
For me I'm most interested in the possible Toonami edit of Trigun that may or may not exist. Jason Demarco confirmed that Trigun was almost going to be on Toonami but the standards and practices said no because of the gun violence. He never said if they actually went as far as attempting to edit it, though or if it was just a flat "no" without even trying. But part of me wants to think there's at least an episode of Vash with a "blaster" and totally secular Wolfwood out there and that someday we'll find it. Also the Toonami edit of Inuyasha which is much more likely to exist. They actually confirmed that they were very, very close to getting it onto the block but Inuyasha being pinned to the tree was the ONLY thing preventing it and it couldn't be edited. Meaning they probably edited at least the first episode, but there's still no proof it exists.
This reminds me of how Winx Club was bought by Nickelodeon and continued by them instead of Rainbow and the original people who worked on it. I remember noticing the shift in quality as a kid and wondering what episodes and concepts the original writers would've come up with, and how 4Kids would've dubbed it (since they infamously changed so many lines of everything they localized).
No one will care about this comment but there’s this series I loved called Michi Guau. It was by a UA-cam kids channel called El Reino Infantil. Yes, I know it’s strange to say I unironically love a YT kids series, but it was actually good. Anyway, the series only lasted for 2 volumes due to unpopularity (volumes are Reino Infantil’s equivalent to seasons, so whenever I say volume, just imagine them as seasons). Volume 2, as well as the whole series ended with its final song La Tía Monica in 2018, which I believe that was Reino Infantil’s final song of that year. I’m mentioning all this because by your definition, I think volume 3 of Michi Guau could be considered theoretical lost media. It never existed, but it’s a possibility it could have at one point. I think it’s possible someone at the head of the company had thought of or even had planned to continue the series for a 3rd volume, but ultimately decided otherwise, again, because of unpopularity. My evidence for this is that despite the series ending at the end of 2018, the channel was still using their songs in compilations all the way until October of 2019 (since El Reino Infantil is a kids channel, they very frequently post compilations of their songs). I think the fact that they kept using the songs in compilations in all that extra time, it could’ve meant that they were possibly intending to keep the series going but again, decided not to. So again, I’d say by your definition, Michi Guau volume 3 could be considered theoretical lost media, although volume 3 definitely should’ve happened, and still should happen, the series was awesome.
When you mentioned lost "youtuber lost media", one that comes to mind to me personally is a series of anime/cartoon reviews called "3, 30, 300 Reviews" by a channel whom I forgot the name of, regrettably. These were pretty unique reviews that got me into a lot of shows, which took the format of 3 back-to-back reviews of whatever show that episode was, first, a 3 second review, 30 second review, 300 second review, it was pretty neat. Sadly some years ago they were all deleted with no backup/reupload in sight, I assume because of copyright, but I wish an archive existed somewhere of the videos. I don't know if the creator of them is still active online, since I dont remember his username, but maybe someone who knows can help.
Yesterday I had a sudden desire after someone in a video said "After these messages", to see if there was a video of an old bumper that ABC would use on Saturday mornings in the 1980s. There was a video to my surprise and delight. But it did make me think of the Lost Media videos I've seen discussing bumpers. The bumper I was looking for was so indelibly imprinted in my brain as part of a movie we recorded and watched over and over, that it seemed like it could only exist in that one movie. When I discussed looking it up later with my brother, I found myself actually feeling a bit shocked that it existed on it's own.
As a slight correction, while 4kids one piece skipped 2 story arcs, the episode count is also lowered due to the amount of censorship going so high that they had to start taking footage from future episodes to fit a half hour timeslot, leading to some very strange episode endings. My own personal example of this concept is the Zatch Bell dub, that aired on CN in the US. The first 77 episodes aired, then episodes 78-104 only aired in Canada. However, despite the dub's cancellation, the episode preview for episode 105 still exists, and it confirms that they cast a voice for the upcoming new character, Coral Q. This makes me wonder, if there was any progress on dubbing episode 105 and later, how much of it existed? It feels wasteful to cast someone just for the dub to be cancelled after they voiced in a single preview.
They skipped WAY more than two story arcs They cut out multiple story arcs(they mostly cut anime filler arcs) and also cut the two times the anime adapted the manga cover stories. in the Manga, the cover(which in most Shonen manga is just an art page) tells stories for characters somewhere else in the story. The anime only adapted two of these. And 4kids cut both.
@@matthewmartin1852 You're right. The story arcs I was referring to was Reverse Mountain and Little Garden, but I had forgotten about the cover stories and the anime-only stuff. The two I mentioned is probably more egregious though, since cutting them would have huge consequences if the dub survived past Alabasta.
@@matthewmartin1852 Much as I hate that they did that, that first filler arc about the dragons was lame and boring and caused a massive continuity snare years in the future. Plus, it was in English so the ONLY good thing about it, Junpei Takiguchi as Nelson, wouldn't have been retained anyway. They were right to cut it. I say that because I wound up getting that Funimation uncut box set cheap and wondered why that was. A couple episodes into that arc, I said to myself, yeah... that's probably why.
i guess this sort of counts? how the entire touhou series might have been if the 6th game had not cut the third playable character found in the code (rin satsuki)
Fun fact about One Piece dubbing: 4kids wasn't the first, it was Odex, a Singaporean network that dubbed the series in English for that region. They only dubbed 104 episodes, and the first 24 had their own really weird censorships some people say were worse than 4kids. Ep 25 onwards were left uncensored, the voice cast is interesting to listen too and their choice of translations were quite odd (for example they used literal translations for some attacks like calling the Gum Gum Fruit the Rubber Rubber Fruit, or renaming Zoro's Tatsumaki to "Zoro Tornado". You can find some clips from the dub online but they apparently released DVD's, the entire dub is very hard to find and might actually be lost media ironically enough
Also on the topic of 4kids, I think Tokyo Mew Mew/Mew Mew Power would also fit theoretical lost media. They only dubbed half of the anime, and didn't have money to buy the rest of the episodes, so the dubbed version just ended on a cliffhanger. And it would have been really interesting to see the rest of the dubbed version since 4kids made SO many changes to the plot and characters, to the point that it felt like a different anime altogether
There's a lot of stuff 4kids never dubbed, even in their big name series. They stopped their dub of Yu-Gi-Oh GX before the last season, and for Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's they stopped after the fakout big bad.
One category thats always interesting to think about is movies and tv shows that almost had different actors, like Back to the Future started filming with Eric Stoltz before he was replaced with Michael J Fox. Or all the other actors that were considered for roles like Nic Cage as Neo, Will Smith in Django unchained or Bob Odienkirk as Michael Scott. Makes you wonder how the film would have been made or received if it had a very different actor in a key role.
It's weird to me that Gin Tama didn't get an English dub until way later, not because of its content (which, yes, is very Japan-focused for its pop culture references), but because I had sworn that I had watched the Owee episodes in English back when I first learned about the show in the early 2010's. I actually had to go back and check and my memory was wrong. I just remember seeing the subtitles and my mind had framed them as just there for clarity, like translator notes.
For the anime segment, little things like this (plus things like censorship or poor characterization to appease to different audiences) is why I overall prefer watching sub to dub. Nothing against dub in itself, you just really are missing out a lot sometimes. Digimon Adventure is a good example, that series was butchered in the dub imo, especially the movie which in original is actually three entire separate movies they decided to frankenstein together for the US audience for whatever reason. Actually this makes for a good potential lost media - if all the separate movies were dubbed instead of what we got.
Almost every Beatles album Ringo had at least one song the exceptions are A Hard Day’s Night, Magical Mystery Tour, and Let It Be. Magical Mystery started as an EP so it isn’t an intended Beatles album, which explains why there isn’t a Ringo song on it. The other two A Hard Day’s Night and Let It Be offer much more speculation for why there is no Ringo song. Another case of Beatles theoretical lost media is Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane on Sgt Pepper. In 1967 EMI wanted a new Beatles single and contacted George Martin, so he could Get two songs to turn into a single. Two of the completed songs were Strawberry Field and Penny Lane, George Martin thought theses were the best songs in the batch so he pick them. In an alternate world George Martin picked another combination of the songs to be made into a single while the rest were kept on the album.
this video makes me think of this other kinda lost media rumor thing. there were two previously lost king of the hill ads crossing the show over with fox kids shows (one was with the silver surfer, the other with a variety of fox kids characters). at the ends of these bumpers it would say "fox kids heads for the hills" which may have indicated at there being a censored version of some of the episodes, but none of them when found (if there are any) to prove that they exist.
Actually for this exact topic, I did find something myself. I assume you are no stranger to Lost music or unidentified music. Music so obscure that no one can find it. Even 40 years ago it was common for music to have music videos. However even obscure music has had music videos. Some of which may be lost. A theoretical lost music videos. I've found a playlist with a lot of obscure music videos.
There's a theoretical lost episode of the infamous Ghost Stories dub, which also ties into a lost episode of the OG Ghost Stories. So, there was supposed to be an episode of Ghost Stories that focused on the slit-mouthed woman. However, it was pulled from broadcast before airing because of backlash that her scars resembled a cleft palate. So all that remains of this episode is previews at the end of the episode before it. Because of this, it also was not included for dubbing. But had it aired, we could've had one more tasteless, hilarious, and wild episode to include in an already insane anime dub catalogue. So it is theoretically lost.
i have an amazing addition to the third one: AJ English dub, and even English subs for some episodes, of the Chinese show all saints street. the only way to currently have an English sub is a non-official one on UA-cam. or a theoretical dubbed version of the last episode of popee the performer!
Here's a piece of theoretical lost media involving your favorite bird: more Mel Blanc cartoons! As some of you may know, I was originally voiced by Mel blanc, the same man who voiced several other cartoon characters such as bugs Bunny and Daffy duck, but he only voiced me for three cartoons before he left universal to permanently join Warner Bros (but the original laugh he did for me was still used for the next few years), had he not joined the Warners and continued to work for universal, not only would more cartoons involved him, but the iconic bugs Bunny moments you know and love today probably wouldn't exist.
It's a very interesting thought experiment. It greatly depends on what you consider to be "lost" as many people would describe it as a pre-existing thing going missing. This could also bleed into the "many worlds" interpretation so its very neat food for thought
I remember this short thing airing on YTV back around 2012-2014 where some kids find a downed Spaceship and they just live in it... i can't remember the name...
I wonder if the original Reboot movie would fit into this category? I believe that it was meant to be a conclusion to the original series + the first few movies. The team behind it (I think they were called Mainframe at the time) teased it for years and even released bits and pieces of what it would look like (two short videos and I think a few stills?) then for whatever reason, the project seemed to halt and we got this hybrid CGI/live action kid's show instead. EDIT: I think there was a webcomic somewhere down the line as well, but I'm not sure if that's currently lost or not.
Kinda funny you ended up showing Bleach and Katekyo Hitman Reborn because those series could be considered theoretical lost media in a different way. Because other series anime got discontinued, you can’t watch the anime from start to finish. Which is a shame for any anime that have gotten such treatment. And even if they get continued one day, it wouldn’t be the same as if it was produced at the same time as the original run of the series. Anyways this was a fun thought process at the very least, especially the bumper one because you actually got a point.
Not sure if it fits in these catagories, but I had a dream about trying to find a lost Charlie Chaplin film that had a train shot. There were only 10 seconds of it found before it dissolved, so they kept trying to find it.
would this apply to an english dub of electric soldier porygon, given that there seem to be conflicting reports from voice actors about whether they recorded one or not?
I feel like Banjo-Threeie is definitely a good example of theoretical lost media. It was referenced in the final boss fight of Tooie by Grunty, but apparently the team never had serious plans to make Threeie.
when you mentioned One Piece, that reminded me of when 4Kids dubbed Ojamajo Doremi (retitled Magical DoReMi) and they only dubbed the first season, which initially aired in 1999 and 2000, but around the time the dub released, in 2005, the entire series had been finished,, with a total of 4 seasons and an OVA, the season that was dubbed was about as hammy as every other dub, and since said season ended as if the show was done for, the idea of whether or not they'd even do the second season was debatable, though they had used promotional art online using art from the third season, so who knows
5:25 You know I was actually thinking this was going to be about stuff like how some games have completely different ideas and even sometimes entirely different genres in mind early in development and the idea being those original ideas could fall under the idea of "theoretical lost" media in that if things were just a bit different the game might've stayed true to it's original plans unlike how it actually did. For an example of what exactly I mean, the pitch for Tokyo Mirage Sessions was that it would be a SMT x Fire Emblem crossover and the final game is pretty far from what you'd expect from that initial idea being more of a Persona game with some Fire Emblem stuff in it and I've always wondered what the game would've turned out like had they stuck to that original pitch more stringently.
I'm almost tempted to think the one Nickelodeon bumper I remembered seeing during an episode of Ned's Declassified from either 2005 or 2006 (the latest I'm willing to go for when it aired is possibly 2007) is theoretical lost media. Honestly, I've pretty much given up on trying to find it and now I'm just hoping to have someone come forward and say that they remembered seeing it too just so I can have someone else confirm that I didn't make it up.
@@JacksonSTUFF777 Keep in mind I am recalling this entirely from memory, so there is a chance I may get a detail or two wrong. I might even be wrong about it being aired during an episode of Ned's Declassified. I think it was a one of the Nick Extra bumpers. As for the bumper itself, a girl and this friend of hers went into this backstage area. The girl took her hair out of this ponytail and started having her friend do her hair in different ways. The girl would have her hair in rollers for a bit before having them taken out only to have her hair pinned next before the pins came out and it would show how it looked once it was all done before the announcer said "We'll be right back." Then there was the "Back to the show" version which was photos of the girl who had her hair done from the before phase through all the ways she had it styled in the first bumper. Does it sound familiar to you?
@@JacksonSTUFF777 I wouldn't have checked them if I wasn't trying to find it. I usually skim through the compilations to see if they have it and so far, none of them have that bumper. It's sort of why I tend to feel like I'm the only one who actually remembers seeing it.
The one example I can think of off the top of my head is Pokemon Gray. They planned and made Black and White 2 to break from the previous games' pattern.
It's wild to imagine what 4kids One Piece would be like for the full series and all the hack job censorship they would do knowing now how the series progresses into some heavier themes and genuinely horrific events, not to mention how they already cut Laboon out.
I know right? This makes A Bug's Life 2 jokingly mentioned in Toy Story 2 theoretical lost media, The Tomb Raider nude codes, and literally any and everything you can just make up in your mind this concept of "theoretical lost media". What a freaking joke and a complete waste of 14 minutes.
I know it's not related. But when you talked about how that youtube series that never got continued it reminded me of a markiplier video where he was gonna say something but got scared and never said what he was gonna say
That cancelled sequel from Sonic Chronicles fits here too right?? The first game ended with a cliffhanger but since the game failed (plus Ken Penders' shit) they cancelled the saga...
Will the rest of The Rimini Riddle be found? I've watched a couple vids on it on UA-cam only one Full Episode has been found I've been fascinated with this Lost Irish Puppet show If there are any Irish People have y'all found any more VHS Tapes that contain more episodes?
some theorectical lost media id like to see come out is unfinshed episodes from the Mission to Mars series and Squid and Stampys FTB series, just random minecraft series that got cut short by world corruption. like multiple people were involved so there has to be unfished episodes or clips from at least some perspectives from before everything got corrtupted or otherwise messed up to the point of things ending
This might sound highly offensive, but finding the entirety of the "true cross" the cross Jesus was killed on. Is probably theoretical lost media. Although several Cathedrals and such possibly may have parts of the cross.
Eyeshield 21's dub probably a good contender in the anime category as well. Sort of is lost too since there was a veeery brief attempt to localize it that didn't pan out and got cancelled about a single episode in, if I'm even remembering right.
I have a piece of lost media for you, I used to watch a lot of roller coaster videos and there was a 50 part series which each episode was 1 1/2 minutes long. It was a series about a park called chessington and was by a guy who also made a series called Easter eggs at Alton towers. Probably quite obscure and I have searched for it but no luck,
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an interesting one for me is the Looney Tunes Private Snafu 1945 short "Secrets of the Caribbean", it was completely finished but unreleased due to WW2 ending, the story is that the army was given the master of that short and they disposed of it due to having no real use for it anymore, but i've not heard any actual concrete evidence to back up that claim so it could potentially still be out there somewhere.
Seems a bit odd that you are selling the Kekcroc artwork as someone else made that fake artwork.
Finding CN City bumpers is like catching Pokemon.
You try to catch them all, but then there's a whole new load of them you have to find.
Well here’s a good ballpark number for you. 600+. Happy searching!
City had quite a lot of bumpers, especially internationally, so many of them easily slip under the cracks.
And don't get me started on Toonix, the international version of Noods.
Except new Pokemon come out in mostly predictable waves.
There was a local TV kids show in Denver called Blinky the Clown. It ran for like 50 years and apparently out of the thousands of episodes produced, only 10 are known to be taped. There's not a listing on the Lost Media Wiki, and I find this kind of fascinating
Maybe 10 are tapped,but there is a chance the rest of these still exist,like in a form of storyboards.
With Splatoon 3 releasing today, the alternate versions of Splatoon 2 and Splatoon 3 that we would have gotten had the other team won their respective final splatfests definitely sounds like it'd fit into this idea of theoretical lost media.
I still want to know what Team Order would have turned the game into.
I haven’t finished the vid yet, but I’d just like to add that a good example of “Theoretical Lost Media”, would be all the books that existed in ancient times that we just don’t know anything about. Like, we don’t have complete lists of what books were available in the Library of Alexandria or Dar Al-Hikma, so who knows what’s exactly lost or not? And it’s also kinda sad to think about all the stories and songs that used to exist but don’t anymore and that there’s no info or references mentioning their existence.
One of the few comforts about ancient lost media is that they're so old that their legacy lived on through inspiring other ancient artists and being used as reference material for ancient historians.
Somewhat related: i recommend the ancient story "true story" to any scifi or fantasy fans, its a trip of a story.
@@mr_indie_fan I actually found out about it while browsing Wikipedia bored one day before Austin McConnell did his vid on it. The story is still funny even 2,000 years later.
@@r.jclark4641 TREY the Explorer did a great vid about this kind of topic, and this vid reminded me of TREY’s. I recommend checking it out if you haven’t already.
Not, they aren't “theatrical lost media” but lost media.
I think a REALLY good example of this is Banjo-Threeie. The whole thing at the end of Tooie was repeated ad nauseum in the early 2010s by game reviewers, but correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think there were ever any plans to make a "true" Banjo-Threeie. Like yeah there were planned follow-ups and sequels and by all technicality, Nuts and Bolts is the third game in the series, but "Banjo-Threeie" is nothing more than a gag by the developers.
no there were plans, many of the levels in Nuts and Bolts were originally intended for Threeie.
@@jadedheartsz Wasn't Nuts and Bolts born from a remake of the first game?
Yeah it was just a gag.
If it is a gag, then it's one that backfired pretty badly as it got fans hoping for a game that was never gonna come.
I believe at least Mumbo or Humba Wumba makes a comment about having at least a 3 game contract and there being a joke of Threeie near the end of the game of Tooie. At least I remember that..
Very cool to see you production value go up, but please never get rid of your classic movie maker transition slides!
And please speak faster. We need to listen at 1.5x speed for you to sound almost normal. If you have reading issues, that's fine, but if not then stop acting like you're targeting pre-schoolers.
@@j_c_93 dog I think that might just be a you problem.
@@thegekkoguy189 it's just add
@@thegekkoguy189 it’s not he’s very slow and pronunciation out every single word, but talks fast af in his live streams. It’s just how he reads. I speed the vids sometime too.
@@thegekkoguy189 I hate to be mean but it's not only him. I have to use the speed option as well. it's not a big deal to me though since the speed option exists
If you think about it every single failed pilot episode has a complete theoretical lost series after it
And there's dozens of theoretical lost pilots from people who never made one.
If you ACTUALLY think about it they are not.
My theoretically lost piece of media is a lost final cliffhanger scene in the series finale to the 2017 reboot of DuckTales. In 2021 it was revealed that the series was canceled and season 3 would be the last season. In response to this one of the show runners said on twitter something around the lines of this “We wrote every season finale to work as the series finale”. The thing is if you look back at the previous 2 season finales the final scene was always a cliffhanger to hype up the next season. My theory is that season 3 had a cliffhanger scene like this too, but it was cut when the crew found out it was going to be the last season. If this was the case, I wouldn’t even be shocked if only story boards exist of that scene.
Lost puppetry
dude it sounds so interesting, did you think about starting some thread on reddit about it?
All I could find is a show called Puppets Who K/ll. What year did it play?
I get why call it theoretical, but I'm not sold on the lost part, at least with the ones known to not exist. To get lost it has to exist first, doesn't it?
Interesting topic nonetheless.
True, but cancelled media is also considered lost. I completely get where you're coming from, though.
@@SparkieGoth some cancelled media maybe even most is worked on at least a little bit so there is still some stuff from it that exists at least sometimes
Personally this was a topic that I feel more or less missed me, but I still appreciate the effort put into the video.
@@SparkieGoth cancelled media existed in a physical mediatic form of any stage of development, even if unreleased. These just don't exist, so they can't be lost if they weren't accessible by anyone (even their own creator)
By his logic, every single pitched idea that got rejected is also lost media. I can get it in a sense, though. But really for that idea calling it 'lost' isn't as accurate as calling it "a loss." It's a loss that we didn't get all these ideas never got any further than that, not that it's actually lost to time.
Sailor Moon's original dub by DiC/Cloverway never extended to the fifth season, called Sailor Stars. The dubbed version was heavily censored, and that original last season had many major plot points that would've been very difficult if not impossible to cut or rewrite to keep the same age rating. We don't know if there was an attempt made, but I'd be morbidly curious if there is some lost content for it that was from them trying to work out how to work around the Starlights gender bending and all the death.
Here’s a piece of theoretical lost media, the Cartoon Network 2017 April fools prank. What they did was insert google eyes into every character of all of their shows, and these episodes were exclusive to this day only. It’s safe to say that probably not all of the edited episodes were saved. It’s theoretical due to the fact that we don’t really know if we have all of the edited episodes, or if we don’t. I’m pretty sure we don’t have them all, but who knows.
Thank you for this.
I guess an example would be songs written by the late Andrew Fletcher of Depeche Mode. At the time of his premature demise, just shy of four months ago, he was the only member of Depeche Mode - past or present - who had never written a song for the band. Now, of course, he never will. Any music that be would have written for the band was lost forever when he passed away. May his memory be a blessing.
I'm a Depeche Mode fan, and it still hurts. 😔😢
Speaking of the ostrich segment, I have an experience kinda similar to that. I was a huge fan of the channel Black Nerd Comedy during the early to mid-2010's, and one series of his I watched the most was his reviews/recaps of the 2012 TMNT series. He covered most of the show, up until the season 5 episode, "Lone Rat and Cubs," and abruptly stopped reviewing the show after that. The final review doesn't give any indication that it was going to be the last one either, so I sometimes wonder if Andre had reviews of any of the remaining episodes that were scrapped for whatever reason.
Should have called it Theoretical Media. adding "Lost" to it just seems like you're fishing.
I loved to see you mention scykoh because his glitch quest is the reason im so into pokemon and the glitches that infest those games, along with just glitches in general after seeing his glitchfests
This reminds me of my theory of there being a lost Pokémon episode with Ash as a Pikachu. For context, at the end of the episode Hocus Pokémon, Ash gets accidentally turned into a Pikachu by a spell gone wrong, but while he doesn't revert back before the episode's end, he does right at the beginning of the following one. Since I feel the concept of a human turning a into Pokémon has too much potential to be used so briefly in the anime, I've considered the possibility of there being an episode planned to be in between them, in which he's transformed for the entirety of the episode, which got scrapped early on.
" I feel the concept of a human turning a into Pokémon has too much potential to be used so briefly"
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon
@@SSJacksWolf two games not one and yes 2015
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 I'm talking about in the anime.
@@SSJacksWolf What I was trying to say is that the main Pokémon anime has not explored the narrative possibilities of a human being transformed into a Pokémon to the degree it could have.
@@SSJacksWolf It has 3 episodes, one of which isn't related and the other two don't tell a linear story. Plus it's a bit different than being turned into a pokemon in the actual normal human-Pokemon world like Ash was. Still a great anime tho, I wish they expanded on it.
Self or Selph from the semi-obscure game franchise NiGHTS Into Dreams is technically considered "lost media" since that character was originally meant to be a SECRET UNLOCKABLE boss fight after completing the objectives whether hidden or shown in some ways just like how the classic Sonic games have objectives to get the Chaos Emeralds. But alas Self was cut due to lacking enough time to prioritize NiGHTS' 1996 SEGA Saturn debut unfortunately, Self is so far 1 of the NiGHTS' fandom holy grail of NiGHTS lost media. Well any 'Self' related concept art or official art is considered as "theoretical or potential lost media" since it has yet to be found, whether via data mining the original NiGHTS game and its prototypes or through other methods. Another "potential or theoretical NiGHTS game related lost media" is the so called rumored "Air NiGHTS Sequel" project for the SEGA Dreamcast, before said console got discontinued along with SEGA's unfortunate console war dropout. Nothing else much known about the Air NiGHTS project other than perhaps another code name for NiGHTS' game sequel NiGHTS Journey of Dreams. Yeah, Air NiGHTS is kinda "POTENTIAL OR THEORETICAL LOST MEDIA" to me at least.
I really do recommend checking out DigiValentine's videos about NiGHTS, especially the 1s about the NiGHTS data mining for the original SEGA Saturn game where a lot of NiGHTS related discoveries have been made there! That data mining fan project started last year and still continues, 25 plus years since that game's release finally revealing its secrets after such difficulties and long time to eventually figure out the SEGA Saturn's code. Also DigiValentine's 1 of the NiGHTSIntoDreams' fandom website's cofounder/co-admininistrator as well as gaining connections with SEGA themselves from a 1 time Sonic mascot job to attending some official Sonic related events that SEGA invited him over and his girlfriend also made official but unfortunately unreleased NiGHTS related artwork as stickers.
Fellow NiGHTS fan here, and I love you for making the comment before I could, we need more attention on Selph so we can get people talking, and maybe increase our chances of finding them.
@@ShiofukiTheDreamDragon You're welcome mate!
how about doing a video about media in danger of becoming lost, as a sort of warning for the community. Whay i mean is that they are technically not lost, but are very hard to find /its sources of availability are slim. my best example of this would be something like infinity train, or other streaming exclusive delisted content
In that same theme, you could include many of the 3ds/dsiware and the wiiu digital exclusives that are going to disappear after the 3ds and wiiu's eshop closure on march of the next year
One example of theoretical lost media would be the continuation series after Hot Wheels acelleracers. It ended on a huge cliffhanger and it’s unknown if a continuation was ever planned, or if it ever made it into any stage of development. There’s nothing to suggest that it did exist except for the cliffhanger
here is a semi-lost media that people didn't know or talk about it yet.
When I work as intern at one of the animation studio X, they show use their studio reel which is similar to what they show on their site.
Until at the end of the reel there's an one Mock Up animation of He-Man in a Marvel's Super Hero Squad style in fully 2D rig style.
In that shot, He-Man as Prince Adam pull his iconic sword transformation, but nothing happen. He shaking his sword (like when you hit the flashlight when it wont work) and do again. Then he become He-Man and they show the Title (I forgot the full name) then after that we see Skeletor as Marvel's Super Hero Squad style but bigger head and smaller (super cute) sneak into random space-car and jump in it and ride off. The End.
I really like that shot so much, I tried to find it but I can't (cos I didn't work on the project) and later on I heard that they decide the scrap the project due to the backlash of The new Thunder Cat Reboot (IMOP they r super different). I think at the end the pitch become He-Man and the Masters of the Universe on Netflix, but I could be wrong on that one.
I have no clue where is the mock up shot anymore as far as I know my intern studio sent it off the client and can't access to the shot any more. Thats the not so good part about working as outsource.
Great video dude.
something worth noting that could be theoretical lost media was in my Toonami Iceberg video that a Cartoon Network Nood Bumper could exist as Toonami was still around during the first 3 months of the Nood Era. i even made a mockup to go along with it.
speaking of Mockups. i think coming up next bumpers mockups of the nood era are probably my favorite!
A Bright Way Productions English dub of the Tamagotchi anime past season 1 is my personal favorite piece of theoretical lost media since it’s fun to think how characters introduced in later episodes could’ve sounded like.
The only anime I’m familiar with that dubbed the omake are Demon Slayer and Cardcaptor Sakura. There’s probably more, but western networks likely cut out the bleach ones due to commercial breaks
you could consider the owl house season 3 under this, since they had to severely truncate an entire season's worth of content and change the story with the cut to 3 extended specials, and we won't get to see what could have been in a full third season
I see that you're a TOH fan. nice
This is probably the greatest example I've seen of theorethical lost me- Wait, I have an even better one!! Do you know Epithet Erased? It was going to have 5 seasons but the lack of budget made the show to only produce Season 1. Now Season 2A will come in the form of a novel, but well...
I recently posted about some local Lost media of my country (Spain) in the Lost media wiki forums, and all of them had examples of this theoretic Lost media.
One of the topics was sketchs from a programming block called Club Super 3, of which probably hundreds if not thousands existed. There obviously are no lists of every single one, but the "plot" sketchs followed a timeline we do know.
On the other hand, I shared about 2 TV shows (Spain's first animated TV show and a catalan shorts compilation show), of which there are no episode lists. One because its from the 60s and finding that kind of stuff from the era is nearly impossible, while the other one just wasn't archived properly, even tho It released in the late 2000s.
I still do find these topics interesting, and the more supposed media can be found, the better!
The idea of theoretical lost media made me think of one from my tv watching experience:
On Seattle, WA’s local channels between 2004 and 2006 (no cable for me back then), there were lots of commercials for Orville Redenbacher popcorn that were the old ads from the 70’s featuring Orville, with modern title cards at the end. Once I remember seeing an Orville Redenbacher ad similar to those, except it was the outtakes (or made to look like the outtakes) of his classic ads, for humorous effect. He’d start to talk about his popcorn, but then spill the pot of popcorn he was holding mid-sentence, and he even got swarmed by bees in another scene. It seems like this commercial would have gotten internet buzz for how strange and funny it was, but I can’t find it or mention of it anywhere.
To be honest LSuperSonicQ talking about ScykohPlays is the greatest crossover of the century.
This makes me think of something that I'm not sure if you could consider Lost Media, but it's a unreleased yugioh card. Back in 2021, Konami hired soccer player antoine griezmann as an ambassador of sorts to promote the game, and they said that they would release a card featuring him in the future. However about a month later a video surfaced of antoine and another soccer player harassing an asian hotel worker and he was dropped by konami. So we don't exactly know if the card was already made and just not released or if they had just announced it and were planning on working on it later. We may never know.
I wonder what happened to scykoh's glitchfest anyways. I absolutely loved seeing him breaking these games with his hilarious commentary.
For me I'm most interested in the possible Toonami edit of Trigun that may or may not exist. Jason Demarco confirmed that Trigun was almost going to be on Toonami but the standards and practices said no because of the gun violence. He never said if they actually went as far as attempting to edit it, though or if it was just a flat "no" without even trying. But part of me wants to think there's at least an episode of Vash with a "blaster" and totally secular Wolfwood out there and that someday we'll find it.
Also the Toonami edit of Inuyasha which is much more likely to exist. They actually confirmed that they were very, very close to getting it onto the block but Inuyasha being pinned to the tree was the ONLY thing preventing it and it couldn't be edited. Meaning they probably edited at least the first episode, but there's still no proof it exists.
This reminds me of how Winx Club was bought by Nickelodeon and continued by them instead of Rainbow and the original people who worked on it. I remember noticing the shift in quality as a kid and wondering what episodes and concepts the original writers would've come up with, and how 4Kids would've dubbed it (since they infamously changed so many lines of everything they localized).
No one will care about this comment but there’s this series I loved called Michi Guau. It was by a UA-cam kids channel called El Reino Infantil. Yes, I know it’s strange to say I unironically love a YT kids series, but it was actually good. Anyway, the series only lasted for 2 volumes due to unpopularity (volumes are Reino Infantil’s equivalent to seasons, so whenever I say volume, just imagine them as seasons). Volume 2, as well as the whole series ended with its final song La Tía Monica in 2018, which I believe that was Reino Infantil’s final song of that year. I’m mentioning all this because by your definition, I think volume 3 of Michi Guau could be considered theoretical lost media. It never existed, but it’s a possibility it could have at one point. I think it’s possible someone at the head of the company had thought of or even had planned to continue the series for a 3rd volume, but ultimately decided otherwise, again, because of unpopularity. My evidence for this is that despite the series ending at the end of 2018, the channel was still using their songs in compilations all the way until October of 2019 (since El Reino Infantil is a kids channel, they very frequently post compilations of their songs). I think the fact that they kept using the songs in compilations in all that extra time, it could’ve meant that they were possibly intending to keep the series going but again, decided not to. So again, I’d say by your definition, Michi Guau volume 3 could be considered theoretical lost media, although volume 3 definitely should’ve happened, and still should happen, the series was awesome.
Wow. Tough of that too
When you mentioned lost "youtuber lost media", one that comes to mind to me personally is a series of anime/cartoon reviews called "3, 30, 300 Reviews" by a channel whom I forgot the name of, regrettably. These were pretty unique reviews that got me into a lot of shows, which took the format of 3 back-to-back reviews of whatever show that episode was, first, a 3 second review, 30 second review, 300 second review, it was pretty neat. Sadly some years ago they were all deleted with no backup/reupload in sight, I assume because of copyright, but I wish an archive existed somewhere of the videos. I don't know if the creator of them is still active online, since I dont remember his username, but maybe someone who knows can help.
Yesterday I had a sudden desire after someone in a video said "After these messages", to see if there was a video of an old bumper that ABC would use on Saturday mornings in the 1980s. There was a video to my surprise and delight. But it did make me think of the Lost Media videos I've seen discussing bumpers. The bumper I was looking for was so indelibly imprinted in my brain as part of a movie we recorded and watched over and over, that it seemed like it could only exist in that one movie. When I discussed looking it up later with my brother, I found myself actually feeling a bit shocked that it existed on it's own.
As a slight correction, while 4kids one piece skipped 2 story arcs, the episode count is also lowered due to the amount of censorship going so high that they had to start taking footage from future episodes to fit a half hour timeslot, leading to some very strange episode endings.
My own personal example of this concept is the Zatch Bell dub, that aired on CN in the US. The first 77 episodes aired, then episodes 78-104 only aired in Canada. However, despite the dub's cancellation, the episode preview for episode 105 still exists, and it confirms that they cast a voice for the upcoming new character, Coral Q. This makes me wonder, if there was any progress on dubbing episode 105 and later, how much of it existed? It feels wasteful to cast someone just for the dub to be cancelled after they voiced in a single preview.
From what I heard their were legal disputes with zatch bell copyright in Japan that led to the dub getting canceled early
They skipped WAY more than two story arcs
They cut out multiple story arcs(they mostly cut anime filler arcs) and also cut the two times the anime adapted the manga cover stories. in the Manga, the cover(which in most Shonen manga is just an art page) tells stories for characters somewhere else in the story. The anime only adapted two of these. And 4kids cut both.
@@matthewmartin1852 You're right. The story arcs I was referring to was Reverse Mountain and Little Garden, but I had forgotten about the cover stories and the anime-only stuff. The two I mentioned is probably more egregious though, since cutting them would have huge consequences if the dub survived past Alabasta.
@@matthewmartin1852 Much as I hate that they did that, that first filler arc about the dragons was lame and boring and caused a massive continuity snare years in the future. Plus, it was in English so the ONLY good thing about it, Junpei Takiguchi as Nelson, wouldn't have been retained anyway. They were right to cut it. I say that because I wound up getting that Funimation uncut box set cheap and wondered why that was. A couple episodes into that arc, I said to myself, yeah... that's probably why.
i guess this sort of counts? how the entire touhou series might have been if the 6th game had not cut the third playable character found in the code (rin satsuki)
Fun fact about One Piece dubbing: 4kids wasn't the first, it was Odex, a Singaporean network that dubbed the series in English for that region. They only dubbed 104 episodes, and the first 24 had their own really weird censorships some people say were worse than 4kids. Ep 25 onwards were left uncensored, the voice cast is interesting to listen too and their choice of translations were quite odd (for example they used literal translations for some attacks like calling the Gum Gum Fruit the Rubber Rubber Fruit, or renaming Zoro's Tatsumaki to "Zoro Tornado".
You can find some clips from the dub online but they apparently released DVD's, the entire dub is very hard to find and might actually be lost media ironically enough
Lmao
Also on the topic of 4kids, I think Tokyo Mew Mew/Mew Mew Power would also fit theoretical lost media. They only dubbed half of the anime, and didn't have money to buy the rest of the episodes, so the dubbed version just ended on a cliffhanger. And it would have been really interesting to see the rest of the dubbed version since 4kids made SO many changes to the plot and characters, to the point that it felt like a different anime altogether
There's a lot of stuff 4kids never dubbed, even in their big name series. They stopped their dub of Yu-Gi-Oh GX before the last season, and for Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's they stopped after the fakout big bad.
I do that lost media joke with people too lmao
Perhaps a little too frequently
This sounds like something a stoner would come up with.
This whole thing reminds me of the Astrology with Squidward segments for the signs that didn't actually get segments but people theorized existed.
One category thats always interesting to think about is movies and tv shows that almost had different actors, like Back to the Future started filming with Eric Stoltz before he was replaced with Michael J Fox. Or all the other actors that were considered for roles like Nic Cage as Neo, Will Smith in Django unchained or Bob Odienkirk as Michael Scott. Makes you wonder how the film would have been made or received if it had a very different actor in a key role.
still waiting for an episode that mentions family guy online. despite that, nice video!
Agreed. We need a lost MMOs video.
"Theoretical media" would be a better, more accurate term.
Oh my gosh I love Scykoh! Also great video!
What an interesting concept to think about, I struggled a bit getting to understand it but it was a really nice topic to bring up.
Best way to start off the weekend with a LSSQ video
It's weird to me that Gin Tama didn't get an English dub until way later, not because of its content (which, yes, is very Japan-focused for its pop culture references), but because I had sworn that I had watched the Owee episodes in English back when I first learned about the show in the early 2010's. I actually had to go back and check and my memory was wrong. I just remember seeing the subtitles and my mind had framed them as just there for clarity, like translator notes.
my fave theoretical lost media is all the wicked amvs of the hannah montana anime that my friends and I would’ve made had it been released
The Scykoh bit was was just a big excuse to talk about your favorite UA-camr, wasn't it?
Things that don’t exist can be lost media is a bold statement, even for a thought experiment.
For the anime segment, little things like this (plus things like censorship or poor characterization to appease to different audiences) is why I overall prefer watching sub to dub. Nothing against dub in itself, you just really are missing out a lot sometimes. Digimon Adventure is a good example, that series was butchered in the dub imo, especially the movie which in original is actually three entire separate movies they decided to frankenstein together for the US audience for whatever reason. Actually this makes for a good potential lost media - if all the separate movies were dubbed instead of what we got.
It’s pretty funny how the 4kids dub of One Piece ends with the Straw Hats about to get crushed by the ship that fell from Skypiea.
Almost every Beatles album Ringo had at least one song the exceptions are A Hard Day’s Night, Magical Mystery Tour, and Let It Be. Magical Mystery started as an EP so it isn’t an intended Beatles album, which explains why there isn’t a Ringo song on it. The other two A Hard Day’s Night and Let It Be offer much more speculation for why there is no Ringo song.
Another case of Beatles theoretical lost media is Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane on Sgt Pepper. In 1967 EMI wanted a new Beatles single and contacted George Martin, so he could Get two songs to turn into a single. Two of the completed songs were Strawberry Field and Penny Lane, George Martin thought theses were the best songs in the batch so he pick them. In an alternate world George Martin picked another combination of the songs to be made into a single while the rest were kept on the album.
Okay that Bleach clip came straight out of nowhere, thank you for that °v°
this video makes me think of this other kinda lost media rumor thing. there were two previously lost king of the hill ads crossing the show over with fox kids shows (one was with the silver surfer, the other with a variety of fox kids characters). at the ends of these bumpers it would say "fox kids heads for the hills" which may have indicated at there being a censored version of some of the episodes, but none of them when found (if there are any) to prove that they exist.
Did not expect you to reference Reborn, hell yeah!
seems more like "theoretical media" than "theoretical lost media"
Actually for this exact topic, I did find something myself.
I assume you are no stranger to Lost music or unidentified music. Music so obscure that no one can find it.
Even 40 years ago it was common for music to have music videos. However even obscure music has had music videos. Some of which may be lost. A theoretical lost music videos. I've found a playlist with a lot of obscure music videos.
There's a theoretical lost episode of the infamous Ghost Stories dub, which also ties into a lost episode of the OG Ghost Stories.
So, there was supposed to be an episode of Ghost Stories that focused on the slit-mouthed woman. However, it was pulled from broadcast before airing because of backlash that her scars resembled a cleft palate. So all that remains of this episode is previews at the end of the episode before it.
Because of this, it also was not included for dubbing. But had it aired, we could've had one more tasteless, hilarious, and wild episode to include in an already insane anime dub catalogue. So it is theoretically lost.
i have an amazing addition to the third one: AJ English dub, and even English subs for some episodes, of the Chinese show all saints street. the only way to currently have an English sub is a non-official one on UA-cam. or a theoretical dubbed version of the last episode of popee the performer!
Here's a piece of theoretical lost media involving your favorite bird: more Mel Blanc cartoons!
As some of you may know, I was originally voiced by Mel blanc, the same man who voiced several other cartoon characters such as bugs Bunny and Daffy duck, but he only voiced me for three cartoons before he left universal to permanently join Warner Bros (but the original laugh he did for me was still used for the next few years), had he not joined the Warners and continued to work for universal, not only would more cartoons involved him, but the iconic bugs Bunny moments you know and love today probably wouldn't exist.
It's a very interesting thought experiment. It greatly depends on what you consider to be "lost" as many people would describe it as a pre-existing thing going missing. This could also bleed into the "many worlds" interpretation so its very neat food for thought
I remember this short thing airing on YTV back around 2012-2014 where some kids find a downed Spaceship and they just live in it... i can't remember the name...
I wonder if the original Reboot movie would fit into this category? I believe that it was meant to be a conclusion to the original series + the first few movies. The team behind it (I think they were called Mainframe at the time) teased it for years and even released bits and pieces of what it would look like (two short videos and I think a few stills?) then for whatever reason, the project seemed to halt and we got this hybrid CGI/live action kid's show instead.
EDIT: I think there was a webcomic somewhere down the line as well, but I'm not sure if that's currently lost or not.
Ostrich Island! You just made me remember Panoots (KawaiiPiranha) played it years ago too, the video has been deleted :(
There was going to be a sequel to Among Us, but it got cancelled because the original Among Us was so popular.
Istg the face bumpers were a fever dream from when I was 3. Ty for confirmation thst it isnt
Kinda funny you ended up showing Bleach and Katekyo Hitman Reborn because those series could be considered theoretical lost media in a different way. Because other series anime got discontinued, you can’t watch the anime from start to finish. Which is a shame for any anime that have gotten such treatment. And even if they get continued one day, it wouldn’t be the same as if it was produced at the same time as the original run of the series.
Anyways this was a fun thought process at the very least, especially the bumper one because you actually got a point.
Not sure if it fits in these catagories, but I had a dream about trying to find a lost Charlie Chaplin film that had a train shot. There were only 10 seconds of it found before it dissolved, so they kept trying to find it.
would this apply to an english dub of electric soldier porygon, given that there seem to be conflicting reports from voice actors about whether they recorded one or not?
seeing that damn nick jr face unlocked a whole region of my brain - its like remembering you had a 3rd parent
I feel like Banjo-Threeie is definitely a good example of theoretical lost media. It was referenced in the final boss fight of Tooie by Grunty, but apparently the team never had serious plans to make Threeie.
I never thought the additional animation for the opening credits became now a part of established norm for your show now.
This reminds me of how it was thought that we were missing 6/12 Astrology With Squidward shorts when, in reality, there were only ever 6.
when you mentioned One Piece, that reminded me of when 4Kids dubbed Ojamajo Doremi (retitled Magical DoReMi) and they only dubbed the first season, which initially aired in 1999 and 2000, but around the time the dub released, in 2005, the entire series had been finished,, with a total of 4 seasons and an OVA, the season that was dubbed was about as hammy as every other dub, and since said season ended as if the show was done for, the idea of whether or not they'd even do the second season was debatable, though they had used promotional art online using art from the third season, so who knows
5:25 You know I was actually thinking this was going to be about stuff like how some games have completely different ideas and even sometimes entirely different genres in mind early in development and the idea being those original ideas could fall under the idea of "theoretical lost" media in that if things were just a bit different the game might've stayed true to it's original plans unlike how it actually did. For an example of what exactly I mean, the pitch for Tokyo Mirage Sessions was that it would be a SMT x Fire Emblem crossover and the final game is pretty far from what you'd expect from that initial idea being more of a Persona game with some Fire Emblem stuff in it and I've always wondered what the game would've turned out like had they stuck to that original pitch more stringently.
I'm almost tempted to think the one Nickelodeon bumper I remembered seeing during an episode of Ned's Declassified from either 2005 or 2006 (the latest I'm willing to go for when it aired is possibly 2007) is theoretical lost media. Honestly, I've pretty much given up on trying to find it and now I'm just hoping to have someone come forward and say that they remembered seeing it too just so I can have someone else confirm that I didn't make it up.
Well, what was it? I watched Nick at the time so I could have seen it.
@@JacksonSTUFF777 Keep in mind I am recalling this entirely from memory, so there is a chance I may get a detail or two wrong. I might even be wrong about it being aired during an episode of Ned's Declassified. I think it was a one of the Nick Extra bumpers. As for the bumper itself, a girl and this friend of hers went into this backstage area. The girl took her hair out of this ponytail and started having her friend do her hair in different ways. The girl would have her hair in rollers for a bit before having them taken out only to have her hair pinned next before the pins came out and it would show how it looked once it was all done before the announcer said "We'll be right back." Then there was the "Back to the show" version which was photos of the girl who had her hair done from the before phase through all the ways she had it styled in the first bumper.
Does it sound familiar to you?
@@ZeldaEd123 Sorry, but I don't recall this one. I assumed you've checked the compilation and other Nick Extra videos on UA-cam, right?
@@JacksonSTUFF777 I wouldn't have checked them if I wasn't trying to find it. I usually skim through the compilations to see if they have it and so far, none of them have that bumper. It's sort of why I tend to feel like I'm the only one who actually remembers seeing it.
The one example I can think of off the top of my head is Pokemon Gray. They planned and made Black and White 2 to break from the previous games' pattern.
man, i watched so much sykoh as a kid, that brought back a lot of nostalgia to me
@LSuperSonicQ when will you do a video about Spawn lost media? that guy totally deserves that kind of a video.
That PBS Kids bumper just brought back my whole childhood holy crap
Is there a full compilation of all the found CN bumpers?
Can you do a lost media video about The Banana Splits?, i love your channel btw
This was a really cool idea!
It's wild to imagine what 4kids One Piece would be like for the full series and all the hack job censorship they would do knowing now how the series progresses into some heavier themes and genuinely horrific events, not to mention how they already cut Laboon out.
The concept of theoretical lost media is stupid, It can’t be lost media if it doesn’t exist at all
I know right? This makes A Bug's Life 2 jokingly mentioned in Toy Story 2 theoretical lost media, The Tomb Raider nude codes, and literally any and everything you can just make up in your mind this concept of "theoretical lost media". What a freaking joke and a complete waste of 14 minutes.
@@AStrangerOnTheInternet yea
Oh man I haven't thought about Scykoh in years, used to watch his channel all the time back in middleschool
I know it's not related. But when you talked about how that youtube series that never got continued it reminded me of a markiplier video where he was gonna say something but got scared and never said what he was gonna say
That cancelled sequel from Sonic Chronicles fits here too right?? The first game ended with a cliffhanger but since the game failed (plus Ken Penders' shit) they cancelled the saga...
Will the rest of The Rimini Riddle be found? I've watched a couple vids on it on UA-cam only one Full Episode has been found I've been fascinated with this Lost Irish Puppet show If there are any Irish People have y'all found any more VHS Tapes that contain more episodes?
some theorectical lost media id like to see come out is unfinshed episodes from the Mission to Mars series and Squid and Stampys FTB series, just random minecraft series that got cut short by world corruption. like multiple people were involved so there has to be unfished episodes or clips from at least some perspectives from before everything got corrtupted or otherwise messed up to the point of things ending
awww it's so cool to find other fans of scykoh, he's one of my favorites too!! :D
This might sound highly offensive, but finding the entirety of the "true cross" the cross Jesus was killed on. Is probably theoretical lost media. Although several Cathedrals and such possibly may have parts of the cross.
Eyeshield 21's dub probably a good contender in the anime category as well. Sort of is lost too since there was a veeery brief attempt to localize it that didn't pan out and got cancelled about a single episode in, if I'm even remembering right.
I have a piece of lost media for you, I used to watch a lot of roller coaster videos and there was a 50 part series which each episode was 1 1/2 minutes long. It was a series about a park called chessington and was by a guy who also made a series called Easter eggs at Alton towers. Probably quite obscure and I have searched for it but no luck,
Does also a unreleased game applied here? Like a game that only got trailers and they never mentioned as cancelled.
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