Dungeons and Dragons Lore: Epic Dragons

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  • @ccvcharger
    @ccvcharger 5 років тому +176

    "Prismatic dragons happen to love insects... I mean mortals." I don't know if that was intentional or not, but I love it.

  • @zacharyhawley1693
    @zacharyhawley1693 6 років тому +16

    Have a fond memory of the prismatic dragon. One of my final 3.5 campaigns had a red dragon great wyrm as the final antagonist. "There is none greater than i". Proclaimed the great wyrm.
    "Well that's a problem" said the old seamstress as her form began to grow.
    "Cause I look upon you as you look upon those mortals" as her wings blocked out the sun with the colors of the rainbow and her body made the castle look insignicant
    Aka welcome to epic.

    • @zacharyhawley1693
      @zacharyhawley1693 6 років тому +9

      fun fact when the DM looks at your entire party dead in the eyes and says.
      "Try to survive." and your party is between both dragons. You are in for a heart pumping 30mins.

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 6 років тому +6

      I'll be stealing this idea thanx

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 років тому +7

      YASS!

  • @nekomaru856
    @nekomaru856 6 років тому +16

    On a side note I once DMed a campaign in which the party (16th level at the time) had to find the 8 Leviathan blades that would destroy the world (of course) and one was hidden in a spot of the world that had been sealed away between planes. The sword was located in the belly of a Prismatic Great Wyrm who was cursed long ago to forever rot in a sea of crude oil (long story). The party summoned him from the bottom of the oil with a legendary war-horn and spoke with the once great creature (who they decided to name Pain) before having to travel through his body as a dungeon. Ultimately they managed to break the magic chains binding Pain to his curse and preventing his death. They then grabbed the sword from his heart and used it to finally end Pain's suffering by ripping a hole in the bottom of the oil leading to the positive plane.

  • @danisrusski6297
    @danisrusski6297 5 років тому +46

    Problem is, if it has stats, it can be killed...

  • @davemarx7856
    @davemarx7856 6 років тому +36

    Adventurer : I fought a dragon god once. Alduin, The World Eater.
    Prismatic Dragon : *Alduwho?*

    • @davemarx7856
      @davemarx7856 6 років тому +2

      Great Beeblebrox by the way

    • @justinmaitland7335
      @justinmaitland7335 6 років тому +4

      I don't think a old or older prismatic would even bother with aldywhatever. Or just 1 round of battle, not including movement.

    • @davemarx7856
      @davemarx7856 6 років тому +2

      @@justinmaitland7335
      Prismatic just needs to grab tiny alduin and shift to a different plane. In terms of *killing* alduin? Assuming his god status doesn't cause some issue... yeah alduin is probably just a fun size snickers.

    • @timothymcknight5765
      @timothymcknight5765 5 років тому +1

      Well he was like 1% of his power when we see him in skyrim.

    • @davemarx7856
      @davemarx7856 5 років тому +3

      @@timothymcknight5765 how do you figure that?
      If memory serves, he was invading the afterlife and was unstoppable by mortal means until a Shout and an Elderscroll were used to make him vulnerable.
      He had also been sent forward through time (likely instantaneous from his pov) through similar means. And that was at the height of his reign when it took a traitorous lieutenant to even affect his control over his lands.
      I love alduin. He's an interesting study in the ambiguity of motive that comes hand in hand with deities. The idea that Alduin is a natural part of the cosmos... possibly an aspect of Akatosh... not in line with the daedric princes at all... that opens up alot of questions about the nature of... well... nature.
      I love it. I love him. He's like a forest fire - necessary destruction.
      But he was duped by some humans using a magic scroll and a polyglot feat... far less impressive than a being that can exist in a realm that kills you through excessive healing till you pop like a microwave burrito.
      (Please not this is not meant as an attack of any kind. Just an ardent disagreement on my part.)

  • @vedymin1
    @vedymin1 6 років тому +15

    "Oh Great Prismatic Dragon, what is the meaning of life ? " "Hey aren't you a pretty little half elf......wanna see my space ship? ;)" ...."Oh God, he's rambling again...where are those damn lemons" :)

  • @Patrick-it8nk
    @Patrick-it8nk 6 років тому +12

    More epic monsters! This is actually fascinating to hear of, and I'd love to see a campaign tastefully include a prismatic dragon.

  • @dogf421
    @dogf421 6 років тому +24

    force dragons just probably breath at you and its like the airblast of a nuclear bomb... exept its continuous rather than just a 1 second pulse that disintegrates buildings but a beam of that type of damage

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 4 роки тому +14

    I imagine an Epic dragon dumping a chunk of fat from a whale into a small nearby town like somebody throwing the crust of a pizza next to an anthill.

  • @austinator1387
    @austinator1387 5 років тому +37

    So...
    These dragons could pick up and fling a Tarrasque...
    First level boyos be like this is fair

  • @bullroarer-took
    @bullroarer-took Рік тому +6

    Omg that Zaphod impression was gold

    • @ryanstewart2289
      @ryanstewart2289 Рік тому +3

      He's just a guy, ya know.

    • @setarcos42
      @setarcos42 10 місяців тому

      I nearly died 😂😂 and this is the second time I've watched this video😅

  • @gargoyles9999
    @gargoyles9999 4 роки тому +22

    Interesting way to deal with a murder crazy party. Party burns down an orphanage only to face off against a prismatic dragon who treated it like humans do a pet rescue

    • @beyblademoses5379
      @beyblademoses5379 4 роки тому +3

      Nah, I would never put these in a game. They just don't really fit in to any kind of setting with how they are presented. I would just use an ancient metalic of some kind.

    • @beyblademoses5379
      @beyblademoses5379 4 роки тому +2

      That would be funny tho

  • @frankalphonso268
    @frankalphonso268 2 роки тому +13

    I imagine a prismatic dragon popping into the positive energy plane for a quick energy bath and then popping back out into wherever they were and just blasting energy everywhere like Godzilla at the end of the king of monsters movie as it discharges

  • @MarkATorres1989
    @MarkATorres1989 6 років тому +18

    Yeah my only encounter with an epic level force dragon was a funny one. Our party needed a certain relic to help us against Kyuss? (The Worm that Walks) and rumor a Force Dragon had this relic.
    Well... we went and paid a visit to the dragon, we all failed our sight and search checks. Kept calling out to the dragon if we could have its audience for just a little while due to a major problem. No answer. Our halfling rogue decides to wander further into the lair to the horde. Yet he walked right into 'an invisible wall' and tries to dispel it.
    Apparently the dragon was there, she was listening in on us, and found it amusing that despite our best attempts... didn't realize she was sitting right in front of us the whole time. The halfling rogue was scared witless and hid behind my Half-Dragon Paladin.
    Thankfully she agreed to 'lend' us the relic in exchange that she 'borrows' me and the halfling because we amused her so... in short our stay was not all sunshines and rainbows... so much questioning and 'cosmic' hide and seek made us wishing we were fighting Kyuss head on.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 років тому +2

      Ha ha! Sounds about right :)

    • @cavareenvius7886
      @cavareenvius7886 6 років тому

      @@AJPickett She lend herself your Half-Dragon Paladin to amuse her.
      I wonder what she mean by "amuse"

  • @genobreaker1054
    @genobreaker1054 5 років тому +25

    AD&D 2nd Edition: Spelljammer.
    Radiant Dragons (separate from 3E Radiant Dragons)
    &
    Stellar Dragons.
    Radiant Dragons grow to be 1,000 feet long and the greatest size for a Stellar Dragon is 3,000,000 feet long. Radiant Dragons have a breath weapon akin to a super Magic Missile, while the Stellar Dragon sweats Pearls of Power, it's shed scales can be used to craft artifacts, it literally subsits on knowledge (and telling a lie or falsehood to one will give it indigestion (highly inadvisable), whether or not you believe it to be true) and has a breath weapon of "a cone of gravitational force that draws victims into an internally generated Sphere of Annihilation", aka, it's breath weapon is a BLACK HOLE. Both dragon species are capable of achieving spelljamming speed on their own and are ludicrously good at arcane magic.
    Behold, I give you, Epic Dragons.

    • @MrByakkoneko
      @MrByakkoneko 5 років тому +4

      Geno Breaker mein gott.....

  • @samwhary5498
    @samwhary5498 5 років тому +19

    Prismatic, force, and astral dragons.
    Making dragons epic again

  • @TristanAndersen
    @TristanAndersen Рік тому +4

    Great video! Watching it brought to mind an epic level 3.5 game I ran a while back where I throw half-farspawn force dragons at my party. A Young adult half-farspawn force dragon one-shotted the Artificer's two Iron Colossuses. My party won in the end but they took a pounding from them. After the game was over my players had permanently banned me from ever using half-farspawn force dragons ever again. Every so often my friends remind of the ban. Left quite the mark on them

  • @devangoad
    @devangoad 4 роки тому +9

    I loved that zaphod impression, very true to style

    • @chazzwozzio
      @chazzwozzio 3 роки тому +1

      I would love a zaphod dragon

  • @Darkboarder4
    @Darkboarder4 6 років тому +22

    AJ: "Take a moment and go read up on what that spell actually does."
    Me: Ok. (pause video, find and read spell effects) oh no.
    AJ: "Now imagine a seventy foot cone of that coming at you."
    Me: OH GODS NO!!!
    Also, nice zaphod beeblebrox

    • @coreymerrill3257
      @coreymerrill3257 4 роки тому +1

      What the prismatic spray? You dont want to be burnt zapped burned stuck in place , knockednout and melted with acid , poisoned and blinded?... Sheesh worrywort...wait...did that change? Prismatic spray used to charm or cause sleep didnt it? Fireball, lightning bolt ( thunder is the sound a lightning bolt makes. Which is called a thunderclap. not a thunderbolt... Thunderbolt is a misnomer and also a sort of crappy, presludge, warmetal band . they always sound like the music will get brutal and fast at any moment...and it doesn't. .its unsatisfying to listen To do to that .) acid arrows, poisonous mist , high level web spell, sleep or charm , darkness instead of blindness and cone of cold (or was it ray of frost?).

  • @JanusHoW
    @JanusHoW 4 роки тому +17

    I'd say the D&D multiverse is a safer place because of the epic dragons' neutral outlook. If they leaned too far in any chaos/law or even good/evil, stuff would be seriously messed up.

  • @ChronoShadow69
    @ChronoShadow69 6 років тому +4

    Oh god, that Zaphot Beeblebrox impression was just fantastic xD

  • @thatdarncat2885
    @thatdarncat2885 6 років тому +29

    Sooo... Godzilla dual classing as a wizard?

  • @hircenedaelen
    @hircenedaelen Рік тому +3

    I've been loving this binge of your old lore videos, really useful in fleshing out my homebrew world, thank you

  • @jharrell23867
    @jharrell23867 2 роки тому +13

    Calling them siege beasts & saying they can easily destroy a castle if they set there mind to it is a huge understatement... That can be said for most ancient or elder wyrm chromatic dragons. A group of elder chromatic dragons laid siege to a entire kingdom while a lone red dragon took the castle by itself in critical role's chroma conclave arc. A epic dragon could of destroyed the entire castle or a good portion of it with a single breath attack and blown most of the population of the city and there homes away with one beat of its wings, a entire kingdom could be done in by just two actions in a single round of combat by a epic dragon. More like flying extinction events than siege beasts which is why they answer to nothing short of a greater deity because lesser ones are beneath them like Mortals are beneath most chromatic dragons.

    • @yami122
      @yami122 2 роки тому +1

      hell the thing could kill shit tons of people and destroy a castle by just belly flopping

  • @GHOST-in-the-MACHINE
    @GHOST-in-the-MACHINE 3 роки тому +16

    I'm putting a prismatic wyrmling in my game... which is a grimdark fantasy setting where there's been no sunlight for over 1000 years and it's being ripped to shreds by interplanar portals. It got dropped into this world by chance and it's now starving, so if my players help it, they'll gain a powerful ally, provided it can keep itself fed in a sunless world. But it'll have 3 or 4 points of Exhaustion by the time they find it.

    • @khalilmason
      @khalilmason 3 роки тому +1

      That you, Danny?! Did I just find the way to beat Orcus?

  • @prettycoolguy3206
    @prettycoolguy3206 5 років тому +19

    If you treat dragons as also having class levels like the gold dragons being Wizards... Well you get the Prismatic dragon's health low, it plane shifts to the positive energy plane, regains health and temporary hit points before plainshifting again to return and whoop your arse. Presuming you didn't run off with what you needed from its hoard that is!

    • @projectbaum
      @projectbaum 5 років тому +5

      I'm sure it wouldn't take a prismatic dragon very long to hunt down the poor adventurers who had the ill-advised idea of stealing from its hoard. There's a campaign arc if ever I saw one: running from one of the most powerful dragons in the entire game.

    • @Lughrochben
      @Lughrochben 3 роки тому

      @@projectbaum Shortest. Campaign. Ever.

  • @antwan1357
    @antwan1357 2 роки тому +8

    Epic dragons are awesome thanks for making this.

    • @Jeffry58835
      @Jeffry58835 2 роки тому

      just emagon if one began to do the same thing as daurgothoth
      or if daurgothoth began to make itself like that

  • @darrylviljoen6227
    @darrylviljoen6227 6 років тому +16

    "respond violently to violence" should read, "respond with mild curiosity or vague annoyance to violence" i doubt anything powerful enough to draw blood would be stupid enough to try.
    I'm sure even the tarasque would think twice before attacking something that dwarfs it on that scale.

    • @justinmaitland7335
      @justinmaitland7335 6 років тому +1

      Tarasque just kinda eat in a straight line, it would unwittingly enter the territory and cause an issue, if it was home it would go and put the puppy back to sleep if it was old enough to cast wish.

  • @setarcos42
    @setarcos42 2 роки тому +5

    That zaphoid impression killed me. Spot on sir

  • @omlo9093
    @omlo9093 5 років тому +14

    A Force dragon in Athas that was banished to this godless planet by Bahamut...but it is near death and Bahamut expected the dragon to become the dying planet's guardian, but the Force dragon has other plans.

  • @joefixxit
    @joefixxit 5 років тому +10

    Your Hitchhikers Guide reference was awesome. I laughed so hard I almost swerved into the ditch lol

  • @questionforme
    @questionforme 6 років тому +15

    please do one on the Time Dragon

  • @bleblancw
    @bleblancw 6 років тому +25

    Do you think if you invited a Prismatic Dragon to play D&D they’d play as a Kobold or something else really weak? I feel like it’d be a really novel experience for someone who has been on the top of the food chain since birth. They’d probably be rolling literal boulders in the shape of dice...

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 років тому +8

      They just might, but when they don't win at everything, they wander off in a dire sulk, melt all the miniatures, and a random village...

    • @tavispergentile1334
      @tavispergentile1334 5 років тому +6

      "I roll a 15 +2 for perception."
      "Actually, I'm going to give you -3 to that roll... for crushing that house and family with your die"

    • @DCdabest
      @DCdabest 5 років тому

      Man. They'd be meta gaming the whole time because they'd know every single rule and stats block

    • @LostSoulNexus
      @LostSoulNexus 3 роки тому

      @@AJPickett so playing wizard then

  • @H3xx99
    @H3xx99 6 років тому +3

    Dude, your Zaphod impression is spot on!
    Also, I don't think I'd like to meet the fool willing to try and put two force dragon eggs into a shipping container, because that is a person with an epic level death wish....

    • @thedarkmaster4747
      @thedarkmaster4747 6 років тому

      maybe they just wanted to retire to two dimensions? XD

  • @khingzluv
    @khingzluv 5 років тому +7

    that impression was pretty spot on! haha

  • @elricengquist9989
    @elricengquist9989 6 років тому +4

    I love the concept of creatures that are so massive they need a new category, much like epic dragons an how they could be used both in more large scale fights, but also in a spell-jammer setting as you travel in the areas outside the spheres with so much space. Though I have always been more into the alien, and bio-mechanical style of dragons when it comes to epic dragons, such as those designs found in Legend of Dragoon. These remind me of he Dragon aspects of wow, or the legendary dragons in Record of lodoss wars, with how they are honestly built to need a huge degree of planning, and have an area built around their presence. So much potential in these whenever I used them, and created something different like a Dragonic-like native being of the Far-realm (not merely something corrupted/changed by the far realm).

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 років тому +2

      You are going to love the Axial dragons from the Clockwork Nirvana of Mechanus :D

    • @elricengquist9989
      @elricengquist9989 6 років тому

      Oh yeah that plane just by itself is so fun to do adventures in. This actually got one of the groups in my D&D community to dig up an old Legend of Dragon-ish campaign I had developed six years ago using a mixture of 2'nd and 3'rd edition rule sets (i heavily prefer the old proficiency system of 2'nd to what we have afterwards). In my own setting of Tear there are twin suns that ae actually gateways to other planes, but between them hanging in the sky is a massive moon, which in the campaign begins to change an affect the world below. So the players begin to seek both a reason why this is happening, and methods of reaching the moon to try and fix what is happening. It is than learned that in the ancient past bio-weapon was created using a dragon as the basis yet it was too dangerous, and so sealed in/on the moon using the twin portals. We all were Legend of dragoon fans, so I used the design of the divine dragon from that game for the look of the dragon in question scaled up.
      img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140429042513/legendofdragoon/images/thumb/4/41/TheDivineDragon.png/500px-TheDivineDragon.png

  • @supersmily5SS5
    @supersmily5SS5 6 років тому +17

    Guys. I NEED to make this for 5e. It's too good to not exist. PRISMATIC DRAGON IS SUPERMAN DRAGON. Help.

  • @skippyzc8608
    @skippyzc8608 6 років тому +3

    You're one of the only good dnders left on UA-cam

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 років тому

      Well, I dabble. There are some very good channels around still.

  • @zmishiymishi5349
    @zmishiymishi5349 Рік тому +8

    As for dragon feeding habits, i remember that some of them (silver?) can sustain themself on simple lick of morning dew, so prismatic dragon have rather normal diet in comparison to force dragons. Who btw, i strongly suspect, doesn't want to get attached to mortals and their lives because this is what they eat. Process of creating magical items in 3e was consuming experience points from a mage. No wonder force dragons are so buffed. They eat EXP!

    • @ronald1416
      @ronald1416 3 місяці тому +1

      Iirc, the it’s Brass dragons that could sustain themselves off of just morning due. This is a known fact because they typically lair in deserts.

  • @mussante
    @mussante 5 років тому +9

    Worth replaying months later: 6:14
    You were meant for the stage, AJ.

  • @InfiniteBalance
    @InfiniteBalance 6 років тому +2

    I'm absolutely in love with these

    • @InfiniteBalance
      @InfiniteBalance 6 років тому

      Is there any circumstance in a campaign aside from a divine-esque meeting that these would be useable in combat? It seems like they would just annihilate epic level characters before they could do anything

  • @guuspot923
    @guuspot923 2 роки тому +3

    Epic meal time and a much favored snack all at once. Well done!

  • @mjrtaurus2714
    @mjrtaurus2714 2 роки тому +17

    So what you're telling me is that prismatic dragons are like the biblical angels of our world. Beauty and otherworldliness so great an incomprehensible that it leaves us weeping.

    • @orkface234
      @orkface234 2 роки тому +1

      Well DND already does have angels so kinda sorta

    • @RedSunUnderParadise
      @RedSunUnderParadise Рік тому +2

      "Be NoT aFrAiD!"
      My adventurer who failed a wis save: AAAAAAAAAAAÀAAAAAAAAAAÆAAAA

  • @nathanielchance9751
    @nathanielchance9751 6 років тому +1

    new video from AJPickett, this is the best way to start my work day (I listen to the audio, you help the day go so much faster)

  • @petedarock1521
    @petedarock1521 5 років тому +11

    are you gonna eventually do 1 on ao

  • @salt-monkeymcgee401
    @salt-monkeymcgee401 2 роки тому +4

    Bruh your Hitchhikers moment was epic lmao

  • @jthomas669
    @jthomas669 6 років тому +2

    I'm also super curious about ninja clans in Toril.. I haven't been able to find much myself. Also Kozakura is super fascinating! You could probably come up with great info on both!! Keep up the awesome work brother 🎆🤙

  • @linguisticallyoversight8685
    @linguisticallyoversight8685 6 років тому +5

    I like to think of the Prismatic dragons look at humans the same way elephants do they find this adorable like we find small little puppies

  • @levimorne
    @levimorne 6 років тому +3

    Ack I have gotten so behind in watching this stuff! I am glad that I get back for the epicness of DRAGONS!

  • @kathymckee2401
    @kathymckee2401 5 років тому +20

    My DM ran a campaign awhile ago with the prismatic Dragon as full size and it slept it a HUGE forest and he made it so it was always invisible but could turn visible on a whim and we kept hearing about this great rumbling comeing from the forest by npc and went to find out what it was yeah none of our dumb asses put together it was the thing breathing until we got close enough for true sight to kick in and we shit out pants when the DM said you see a collouses shape start to form revealing the biggest creature you have ever seen dwafing the castles. But it turned out to just wanted to talk and we were very careful being as respectful as possible.

  • @Knifetogunfight18
    @Knifetogunfight18 6 років тому +16

    so for a prismatic dragon we are basically ant colonies and they like to watch XD

  • @Daimon-X
    @Daimon-X 6 років тому +3

    Trully EPIC VIDEO. Epic Dragons are awesome. And big. Kaiju dragons.

  • @canudeiro
    @canudeiro 4 роки тому +13

    I wonder where you find most of the information you've just put in this video. I've read the epic handbook and I don't remember finding most of the content you presented here.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +7

      Well, there are four draconomicon books, dragon magazines, dungeon magazines, white dwarf magazine, Polygon magazine, articles on official web sites now hosted in the Internet Archive, wiki articles, games and novels, as well as monster manuals and third party products that refer to other work I don't have access to.

  • @einsibongo
    @einsibongo 6 років тому +2

    I spam your videos to all D&D or fantasy friendly floksa and groups I belong to.
    Thank you for another addition. Best regards from us in the North.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 років тому

      I very much appreciate that :)

  • @christophermzdenek
    @christophermzdenek 6 років тому +4

    The campaign I ran (mentioned in the earlier Weight video) had a Player that had a warlock character that had a pact with an unknown ancient. The game fell apart before he got to find out it was an adult Prismatic dragon. Yeah, just adult. I own the epic book and have used it as inspiration for adventures all the way down to the beginning at first level. Great to see this video happen.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 років тому

      What monster should I cover from the book in the next epic creature video?

    • @christophermzdenek
      @christophermzdenek 6 років тому

      Well, I suppose that depends on if you'd prefer to tie it to the previous biology you've covered. For example, you hit on the epic weights in the discussion of weights. To that end, epic Slaad, as well as Primal elementals, could be impressive. There are of course the epic levels of standard Dragons, but I don't know how that might blend with this very video.Shadow of the Void and Shape of Fire could tie in nicely as the very most terrifying of Undead.
      Separate from existing, but maybe tying into the plane series of videos is the possibility of LeShay. If I could only suggest one or two, though, then Atropal, Infernals, or Phaethon/Xixecal.
      Beyond any of that, though, I suggest whatever has the most backup info (Dragon Magazine, et al...)
      Thank you for the question, Sir. I'm sure you've already had many of these thoughts, but happy to contribute.

  • @mrnotadoor6066
    @mrnotadoor6066 5 років тому +6

    Prismatic dragons may just take the title of my favourite dragons (mostly because of that zaphod beeblebrox)

  • @thegreatharborshipofbentus3567
    @thegreatharborshipofbentus3567 2 роки тому +12

    The cr for a prismatic great wyrm is 66. Demogorgon, who is a fucking DEMON LORD has a cr of 26, Grazzt 24 and Orcus also 24 someting like that. Just one epic great wyrm is the equivalent of 3 demon lords. Either there are no more then 2 or 3 epic dragons in existence or there is just something wrong with these stats. If im not mistaken their stats are equal to lesser deities. For a bunch lizards thats quite the accomplishment.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  2 роки тому +6

      There's always a bigger fish

    • @Jeffry58835
      @Jeffry58835 2 роки тому

      what if there were more then that lets say 10 and they began on the same thing as daurgothoth
      what would happen how fucked would the univers be if they began killing every thing

    • @thegreatharborshipofbentus3567
      @thegreatharborshipofbentus3567 Рік тому +1

      @@Jeffry58835 i dunno, would they even bother destroying things if there are that many of them? they might forge their own friggin planes for the heck of it.

  • @Hethreck
    @Hethreck 6 років тому +3

    Very interested in learning about the positive and negative energy planes. I always find it hard to imagine these abstract planes

  • @chandlermontano9910
    @chandlermontano9910 2 роки тому +14

    With all that info, would a full grown prismatic dragon overpower tiamat? Would they be deities? Would they be greater deities? Thanks

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  2 роки тому +5

      demigods (Empyreans) and lesser gods might have difficulty with one prismatic dragon.

    • @Jeffry58835
      @Jeffry58835 2 роки тому +4

      @@AJPickett what will happen if 5 full grown epic dragons just show op
      is that just death to whatever is in there way
      like gods that arnt to strong but not to weak to be counted as lesser

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  2 роки тому +4

      @@Jeffry58835 I don't know, sounds like an exciting encounter

  • @reubenfromow4854
    @reubenfromow4854 6 років тому +8

    Imagine what happens when one of these becomes a dracolich...

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 років тому +5

      Considering the very long lifespan of the Epic dragons, and Sammaster's ritual for creating a Dracolich has only been around for the last 590 years, perhaps it is just a matter of time before it happens.

  • @KuLaydMahn
    @KuLaydMahn 5 років тому +15

    So these things can rival lesser gods? Could they serve as warlock patrons? I'm sure you'd need some creative reason but that could be pretty cool

    • @draxthemsklonst
      @draxthemsklonst 4 роки тому +8

      They're definitely similar in capability of archfey, demon lords, ki-rin and the like. Good question, wonder if there's an official answer.

    • @gargoyles9999
      @gargoyles9999 4 роки тому

      The Infinity Sock offer shinies

    • @LostSoulNexus
      @LostSoulNexus 3 роки тому

      Thought that was the lore behind dragonmarks I'm probably wrong though

    • @snowman9631
      @snowman9631 2 роки тому

      They are strong magically... They can be patrons

  • @brotheralaric7177
    @brotheralaric7177 3 роки тому +11

    0:42 i have that book , sometime i read it before going to bed .

  • @isaaccordova9119
    @isaaccordova9119 5 років тому +2

    I'd like to take the time to say how awesome this page is and how priceless it is to me as a DM and player.

  • @candiwalkowski7480
    @candiwalkowski7480 6 років тому +2

    An infinitely powerful creature with the personality of Zaphod Beeblebrox? I love this.

  • @Good.shepherd420
    @Good.shepherd420 6 років тому +5

    This was cool, more epic stuff!

  • @---qt2cm
    @---qt2cm 5 років тому +28

    Technically there is a third epic dragon in a dragon mag. The time dragon, the most powerful creature ever in D&D. This is a cr 90

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  5 років тому +19

      There is always one more dragon to cover :)

    • @saeyabor
      @saeyabor 5 років тому +11

      @@AJPickett "There's always a bigger dragon..."

    • @narev6569
      @narev6569 5 років тому +2

      The biggest I saw was Hecatoncheires at like CR85.

    • @draxthemsklonst
      @draxthemsklonst 5 років тому +3

      AJ just uploaded time dragon episode today.

  • @gigatwin5298
    @gigatwin5298 4 роки тому +20

    Wait
    If a Force Dragon is all but invisible too most people then how would anyone know if one was still living in the Forgotten Realms or maybe treating it as a summer home

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +18

      Assume the worst, and you will never be disappointed

    • @lorekeeper685
      @lorekeeper685 4 роки тому

      They thanfully prefer to live away from civilazitons if thats was not the case they won't be much left

    • @gargoyles9999
      @gargoyles9999 4 роки тому +3

      Gigatwin Just hold a Star Wars convention and see if anything happens

    • @truck6859
      @truck6859 4 роки тому

      @@gargoyles9999 😆

  • @steakdriven
    @steakdriven 2 роки тому +9

    Honestly I would hate to see what kind of water down statistics they give them because of how amazing they were in Third Edition

    • @RealLifeIronMan
      @RealLifeIronMan 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah for real. My memory is hazy but I think An Ancient Force Dragon had a strength stat in the high 60's and a CR in the 40's in 3e.

    • @mung01re
      @mung01re 2 роки тому +1

      If they ever show up in 5e, they’ll definitely be weakened. A single great wyrm force dragon outpaces most gods.

  • @jackiesantos2121
    @jackiesantos2121 5 років тому +9

    These Dragon sounds more badass what their names a Epic Dragons

  • @kidwithcards2390
    @kidwithcards2390 6 років тому +13

    Did anybody do an early-game prismatic dragon sighting by the party ,like when Ash sees Ho-oh for the first time?

    • @kidwithcards2390
      @kidwithcards2390 6 років тому

      Like, the players see it but don't interact with it and nobody believes them when they say they saw it.

    • @johntheherbalistg8756
      @johntheherbalistg8756 6 років тому

      Not yet, but let's see what happens after I've watched this video 😂
      I started my campaign at level 5, but I've got epic level designs. They may even (later) try to plead for help from one

  • @nathanmitchell9752
    @nathanmitchell9752 5 років тому +14

    Our next campaign is in a homebrew setting in which the surface of the planet is covered by a magical darkness and most civilisations have escaped by creating floating islands like the Netheril. It requires a great amount of arcane or divine power to keep an island afloat so most islands are mobile, being piloted around the planet to scour the surface for magical artefacts to channel. Not all islands are successful, indeed islands being raised and falling are a semi-regular occurrence. Pirate islands that fly around raiding other islands are not uncommon. There are three known islands that exist; one is kept afloat by an intermediate deity of law and civilisation that commands the worship of those that live there, one is the prison of a demon prince whose power is such that he unknowingly keeps the island afloat, the last is the home of a prismatic dragon who simply enjoys observing the goings on of the civilised races and who dislikes the darkness below. Indeed, my character is the result of said prismatic dragon going 'I wonder what would happen if I fathered a child with a human' and as such is an Aasimar Draconic Sorcerer.

    • @placeholdername3818
      @placeholdername3818 5 років тому

      Unless things changed recently. Aasimar are celestial descendants. So a half dragon won't create one.

    • @janedoe4929
      @janedoe4929 5 років тому +1

      @@placeholdername3818 The child of an epic dragon is no mere half-dragon aasimir is fine for an epic dragon's child regardless of anything.

    • @placeholdername3818
      @placeholdername3818 5 років тому

      @@janedoe4929 Aasimar are celestial descendant not draconic. Where would the Aasimar come from after mating with a human?

    • @grilledleeks6514
      @grilledleeks6514 5 років тому +1

      mortal engines was a shitty movie and you should feel bad

    • @Amardarial
      @Amardarial 5 років тому

      @@placeholdername3818 Celestial + Dragon = Half Dragon Aasimar, who said the other parent was normal :P

  • @Eldagusto
    @Eldagusto 6 років тому +1

    Yes Epic stuff! Talk about the nature of mortal beings and leveling, like what it mean to level up to 20, and then level beyond that. And the Nature of Gods and Immortals!

  • @NodDisciple1
    @NodDisciple1 6 років тому +6

    I often wanted to do a campaign where a Dwarf hold had a large bank/vault and a Dragon was resting on the pile of coins. Either the Dragon was hired to watch the horde or it was the original owner and agreed to found a bank to get more money. Which dragons are the most likely you could convince to agree to such an arrangement, if any? Same for best age group to engage in such negotiations.

  • @jaredjohnson8200
    @jaredjohnson8200 5 років тому +11

    My DM is trying to run an encounter with a force dragon and a solar. Do you have any advice on how to run it well? Because lore wise solars are practically gods. Mechanically not so much.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  5 років тому +7

      Think of the stats as the 'basic' solar, add magic artifacts and really powerful allies, since Solars are hugely important figures, they literally travel with accompanying armies of angels and inevitables (divine super warforged), the Force Dragon's solitary nature puts them at a massive disadvantage to the forces of light.

    • @jsizzlesaurusrex
      @jsizzlesaurusrex 5 років тому

      AJ Pickett x

  • @brianmanning764
    @brianmanning764 4 роки тому +15

    Good Lord I wonder what a party would have to do to piss off their DM enough to get one of these monstrosities put into the game!

    • @gormold4163
      @gormold4163 4 роки тому +8

      Well, we killed a god too quickly.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +7

      That would do it.

    • @gormold4163
      @gormold4163 4 роки тому +2

      AJ Pickett Update: I made peace with the dragon, and kept the others from killing themselves on him.

    • @JadeDarkness8822
      @JadeDarkness8822 2 роки тому

      It’s my campaigns end game boss

  • @_Tzer
    @_Tzer 3 роки тому +14

    one other epic true dragon the time dragon not much is known besides its connection to time
    my theory is they are actually reincarnated steels done completing their quest for io made into his servants
    one of io's domains is time after all and their power rivals gods at a WHOPPING cr90
    to me this is the only logical explanation for their power... besides dragons being born in a rift in time.
    and epic dragons in general could be servants of io..
    also time dragons should be able to exist in the positive energy planes for quite a long time considering their time capabilities

    • @agentchaos9332
      @agentchaos9332 Рік тому

      CR 90 doesn't rival gods, it surpasses gods by about 30 CR levels. That's the challenge level of Overgods & Great Old Ones

  • @rickchainey830
    @rickchainey830 4 роки тому +3

    Love your epic creature lore

  • @hakuoh4919
    @hakuoh4919 5 років тому +11

    I wonder which would win in an epic dragon clash. Prismatic or Force personally I think force has the slight edge in a fight.

    • @KnightBokura
      @KnightBokura 5 років тому +7

      According to their CR and as well the lore. Prismatic Dragons keep the Force Dragons in line and make sure they don't fuck with people too much.

  • @telenNG
    @telenNG 6 років тому +4

    Well that's certainly gives me an idea for an Encounter not a fight though talk about trying to find a great sage for knowledge that has been Lost to the world prismatic dragons fit perfectly

  • @snapst
    @snapst 6 років тому +2

    Thanks AJ! Ive been running/playing (2DM's) my first ever DnD game - which turned in to a campaign, where these dragons are a huge part of the adventure. it is overpowered for them (lvl4 at the moment), but i just wanted to see how epic the campaign might get. My ideology was - being at the wrong place at the right time might lead up to some great adventures. it is a shame they have no idea whats coming to justify such a powerful ally for them..
    some ideas - the most powerful artifacts, the trickster-est of deamonlords and the weirdest combination of races and classes is the way to go in a world where everything is allowed.

  • @Gwagia
    @Gwagia 3 місяці тому +3

    After watching all of the Dragon Videos The Prismatic Dragon is my Favourite.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  3 місяці тому +2

      My Zaphod impression was one of my finest moments.

  • @Andromansis
    @Andromansis 6 років тому +2

    Dragons of The Great Game, I forget which 3.5e Monster Manual it was in, it was like 2 pages, but I remember I made like 12 sessions of material centered around the ideas present therein for 4th edition and then my players quit after the 1st session because they hated the combat in 4th edition so much. it was extremely cobbled together, launching off of one of the level 1 adventures contained in the DMG with some additional flavor stuff thrown in, they fought this kobold that really knocked them around and he has a talisman for a white dragon on him, if it would have continued they would have taken that to town and then been directed to whatever the D&D equivalent of a Mister Johnson from Shadowrun is (internally I just called them Mister MacGuffin) who would send them to do things for a white dragon without them knowing too much about it, and if they'd declined they would have been approached by some rival group to sort of put them on the path to adventure.in a world where dragons work as shadow brokers.

  • @elricengquist9989
    @elricengquist9989 6 років тому +4

    Thought of an idea for a epic dragon that would be fun to develop, and want to get the opinions of some of the community an Aj as well on it.
    Monster name: Beholder Dragon
    Ideas for history or method of creation: This Epic Dragon would be either be created from the dreaming of a beholder that had a traumatic experience with a epic or extremely power dragon. Or was a dragon that had entered into the far realm long ago prior to when it was found how dangerous the far realm was.
    General description: This dragon would be different with how it's size would work, as it would be largely look-like a colossal creature in size, but it's weight an actual size would be much larger, since it could constrict itself within it's carapace-like shell. This Dragon would in appearance would be like most dragons a feline-like reptile creature yet instead of the typical scales covering it's body it would have more of a insect-like carapace that holds it massive body constricted behind it, which might allow it to lash out further than expected for surprise attacks. Also the head of the Dragon would be very much Draconic in style with a metallic smoothness to it, and what looks like a hinged area between a set of six eyes (three on each side of the head) that looks to be able to pull back an up, which would reveal a single massive eye that would function much like a Beholder's main eye does.
    This is what i got for the idea so far. Any ideas, or opinions on the idea of it? Also what kind of breath weapon would you think would be used by such a Dragon? I am thinking that the hinged shutter on the top of the head that hides the main-eye would be something it has to allow it to use it's magic abilities, and breath weapon instead of turning off the eye like some Beholders can.

    • @draxthemsklonst
      @draxthemsklonst 6 років тому

      Since beholders tend to not like non-beholders, I doubt a dragon type one would spawn from how they are said to form new ones/reproduce...unless...
      A brainstealer dragon (illithid-dragon) were to enslave a beholder and force one to dream up a beholder of draconic form.
      Of course, D&D is what YOU WANT to an extent, so it's still a novel idea! I like your idea.
      If you want some information on brainstealer dragons, check out AJ's mind flayer episode.
      D&D Beyond info here:
      www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/100369-brainstealer-dragon

  • @BlackWingedSeraphX
    @BlackWingedSeraphX 5 років тому +12

    Can there be Half-Dragon's from these guys? A Half-Prismatic or Half-Force Dragon guy would be pretty cool

    • @wally99szarek
      @wally99szarek 5 років тому +3

      My dm and I homebrewed a prismatic drwgonborn. It was pretty awesome

    • @wally99szarek
      @wally99szarek 5 років тому +4

      Prismatic Breath:
      You can use your action to exhale destructive energy. Your draconic ancestry makes your breath weapon a prismatic spray.
      To determine damage type roll a d6 and compare it to the following table
      [d6] [Color] [Damage Type]
      [1] [Red] [Fire damage]
      [2] [Orange] [Acid]
      [3] [Yellow] [Lightning]
      [4] [Green] [Posion]
      [5] [Blue] [Cold]
      [6] [Special] [Roll twice more, rerolling any 6]
      When you use your breath weapon, each creature in the area of the exhalation must make a dexterity saving throw. The DC for this saving throw equals 8 + your
      Constitution modifier + your proficiency bonus. A creature takes 2d6 damage on a failed save, and half as much damage on a successful one. The damage
      increases to 3d6 at 6th level, 4d6 at 11th level, and 5d6 at 16th level.
      After you use your breath weapon, you can't use it again until you complete a short or long rest.
      Prismatic Resistance:
      You have damage resitance of the same type as your last breath attack

  • @unusefulidiot
    @unusefulidiot 6 років тому +1

    5:04 Not family friendly subtitles, i don't know if you can change that. The way you described the dragons power and size worked well.

  • @kareth117
    @kareth117 6 років тому +1

    I would LOVE a video on the Positive Material Plane!

  • @carloss3499
    @carloss3499 6 років тому +12

    Larger than a tarrasque
    :O (jaw drops)

    • @spikegilfer1997
      @spikegilfer1997 6 років тому +6

      *Blood-crazed level 2 Barbarian* : "TELL ME, DO YOU BLEED?!"
      *"YOU WILL!!"*

  • @sintechnics7838
    @sintechnics7838 6 років тому +2

    I couldn't even imagine putting these dragons in a 5e game, but God I want to

  • @foxunix101
    @foxunix101 6 років тому +7

    Holy shit this is what I needed and I did not know. I am running a homebrew campaign where the Cult of the Dragon and the Pact of the Lich are trying to resurrect a Chaos dragon. (Which I am making epic level) and now I have dragons that can fight something so dangerous. I can have the force dragon give them all Dragoon sprits to help in the battle to save the mortal plane!!!!!! YESSSSS (yes that is a legand of dragoon sprit reference)
    Thank you!!!!!

    • @darrylviljoen6227
      @darrylviljoen6227 6 років тому

      you sir, are the first person i have ever heard mention legend of the dragoon.

    • @johntheherbalistg8756
      @johntheherbalistg8756 6 років тому

      Sounds like you have a fun game on your hands. Do your PCs say their prayers? 😂😂😂

    • @Jaghatai_Kahn
      @Jaghatai_Kahn 6 років тому

      @@darrylviljoen6227
      I think i still have a copy of the legend of dragoon along with a game guide lying somewhere in my room.

    • @darrylviljoen6227
      @darrylviljoen6227 6 років тому

      you should consider doing a lets play. my friend had a copy but we could never get it to work

    • @foxunix101
      @foxunix101 6 років тому

      You can buy it pretty cheep on the play station network. I rebought it there and played it through again like 3 years ago. Hahaha would you want a let’s play of leg and of dragoon or the D&D game? For an update my party is in a war with Gnolls and frost giants. I have a half orc battle master in the party and gave him command of 10 orc tribes ( names taken from the wheel of time Trollic clans ;) ). Anyway they are all invisible right now heading to the gnoll command center to try and cut out their leadership. Little do they know the Gnolls are being led by a Drow house!!! Hahaha they just found out Drow were about before i ended the session. Now they are freaking out that they be walking into a cave (command center) where very powerful Drow are. ( yes I have a matron mother inside hehe 😉). Anyway I still plan on having a finally where they basically become dragoon’s and fight along side good dragons vs the evil (or chaos in my world). Any ideas you guys got I’ll take m. Hahahahaha. Glad you guys like the idea.

  • @jaredjohnson8200
    @jaredjohnson8200 6 років тому +9

    How do you think a fight between an epic dragon and an arch devil or the terassque would end?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 років тому +5

      Hard to say, Tarrasque is a massive, stupid brute, so, intelligence wins over brute strength, as for epic dragon and epic fiend, they are too smart to confront each other directly.

    • @iddaishan
      @iddaishan 5 років тому +2

      Arch Devil vs Epic Dragon would be a war of proxies.

  • @LaffyWaffy89
    @LaffyWaffy89 Рік тому +1

    Love these dragons number 1 all time favorite species in all editions so far with force, stellar,time and solar my top 5 as of now

  • @throne-gaming393
    @throne-gaming393 6 років тому +19

    A pigeon is faster than an epic dragon 😂 400 miles in a day isn't anything special for birds

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 років тому +11

      Speeds are really off in D&D... it is the most broken part of the game.

    • @krisostomoyabarrera2255
      @krisostomoyabarrera2255 5 років тому

      @@AJPickett too true.

    • @MrByakkoneko
      @MrByakkoneko 5 років тому +1

      A day of travel in dnd is just 8 hours

  • @jacobwilson8579
    @jacobwilson8579 6 років тому +2

    can you please do a video on the dire creatures

  • @storytime6263
    @storytime6263 3 роки тому +6

    I bet the pris dragon would protect a village if it seen it in danger. Also have a friend from the said village the dragon has known sense the man was a boy. Well in my game he would.

  • @tomjack1000000
    @tomjack1000000 6 років тому +4

    This would make a cool Warlock patron if you could work the relationship right

  • @_Tzer
    @_Tzer 5 років тому +6

    Time for a lesson on lesser known epic dragons glacierdark it hides as a mountain and gravewyrm they ressurect people to eat them and hangs around graveyards

  • @umage1
    @umage1 6 років тому +6

    I believe the time dragon from dragon 359 is also an epic dragon breed.

  • @gabrieladerre2862
    @gabrieladerre2862 6 років тому +1

    Awesome! Thanks AJ!!!

  • @jthomas669
    @jthomas669 6 років тому +1

    Awesome post! Hope you haven't forgotten the Braxat.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 років тому +1

      I FORGET NOTHING! *consults notes*

  • @gamrr_NERD
    @gamrr_NERD 7 місяців тому +4

    I picture Epic Dragons the size of Godzilla from Godzilla Vs Kong remake.