Long Band Life vs Fastest Speed can you have both?

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  • Опубліковано 30 лип 2022
  • long Band Life vs Fastest Speed can you have both?
    in this video I will answer a question I get all the time. What is the best taper for Fast speeds and longest Band Life. I will answer this questions and more in this video. lots of good stuff in this video. be sure to watch to the end.
    #slingshotbandlife #ammospeed #slingshotbandtests #speedvslongevity #Ato #atoslingshot
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  • @wrightyc
    @wrightyc Рік тому +6

    You are a ambassador to the sport mate. Really appreciate the effort and research you do. Much love from the 🇬🇧

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому +2

      Hey thanks man. I really appreciate the comment. I think passing on the information I have learned will help some new shooters see results a little faster and the goal is it will help the sport grow.

  • @forkshootertb96
    @forkshootertb96 Рік тому +4

    Never heard it explained better! I was actually surprised a centimeter gave that much more draw length maxed out.

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      Ya a good 2.5 inches more makes a big difference

  • @merchantsvillage
    @merchantsvillage 8 місяців тому +1

    I love all your well prepared and presented sling shot analyses!

  • @mikehallows6992
    @mikehallows6992 Рік тому +1

    Totally fascinating! Thanks so much and please keep up the good work! Mike from the UK.

  • @axsomoutdooradventures
    @axsomoutdooradventures Рік тому

    This is one of the best videos I've ever watched concerning bands, tapers, draw weight, speeds, etc. Great job as always.

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому +1

      Hey thanks man! I actually almost passed on this one. But I got so many questions about it I did it anyway. Thanks for the feedback man. I appreciate it.

  • @darrellallen7931
    @darrellallen7931 Рік тому +2

    Fantastic explanation Mark, thanks for taking the time to put all that together brother, great info !

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching Darrell. I figured it was time to shoot a video after getting asked the question so many times. Now I will just send the link instead of trying to explain it all through test. Hopefully it wasn't too boring of a video.

  • @jaygarrett4952
    @jaygarrett4952 9 місяців тому

    Great video Mark. I learn something new every time I watch your video's.

  • @ryanlange7133
    @ryanlange7133 Рік тому

    Love your videos! Very informative with clear information, thanks for putting in the work so I can make informed decisions.

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      My pleasure man and thanks for the feedback. Let's me know I am on track.

  • @charlesdang2557
    @charlesdang2557 Рік тому

    Appreciate your videos man. Good info. Straight talking, straight shooting 😆

  • @cpt.pushbeard4348
    @cpt.pushbeard4348 Рік тому

    Great Job! This was super informative!

  • @k.o.skeeponshooting235
    @k.o.skeeponshooting235 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video, that was very well explained. 👍

  • @bikramjeetsidhu9749
    @bikramjeetsidhu9749 Рік тому

    Great video. Special thanks for info on non tapered bands. Also looks like you finally got over the sound recording issue.

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому +1

      Ya I was happy with the sound on this one.

  • @leemulford9246
    @leemulford9246 Рік тому

    Thanks an excellent video.

  • @zachslingshots
    @zachslingshots Рік тому

    Very informative! Thank you sir!

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching

  • @TijAFK
    @TijAFK Рік тому

    Cracking video! Very well explained : )

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      Thanks. Im glad you enjoyed it Tij

  • @golasoff
    @golasoff 6 місяців тому

    Congratulation for the detailed info we get

  • @tyronekim3506
    @tyronekim3506 5 місяців тому

    That was an excellent slingshot demonstration video. It's the kind of demonstration that you would see in a science class. The only thing missing in this video were the chalkboard and the physics equations for the slingshot on the chalkboard. However, if you did that, you would tune out a lot of people.
    Excellent job. My hat's off to you.
    PS. I would wear eye protection.

  • @tuongtitan
    @tuongtitan Рік тому +1

    Rất tốt

  • @coyoteslings
    @coyoteslings Рік тому +2

    Well explained Mark.👍

  • @SBryck
    @SBryck Місяць тому

    The straight cut band was a bit slower however it seemed more consistent. Have you done some shot string testing side by side to see which holds a tighter velocity spread? Great content, thanks for the info

  • @rgilroy1909
    @rgilroy1909 Рік тому

    great info, very detailed. Oh, nice fluffy muff too

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      Lol it seems to work well. I just have to find a place to clip it where I don't bang into it all the time. Lol thanks for the tip.

  • @mattcarolina
    @mattcarolina 10 місяців тому

    I hope i can learn a lot from you bro you are awesome

  • @mannynieves493
    @mannynieves493 Рік тому

    Good video and orientation.

  • @edmcgugan2079
    @edmcgugan2079 Рік тому

    Good video. Good info. It is amazing the difference just a bit more speed makes. Have not done the calcs but on wind turbines, the energy produced goes up exponentially with the wind speed (cubed actually). So wondering if with our ammo, the energy delivered also goes up exponentially with the ammo speed. In other words, tapered bands, lighter pouches, lighter pouch ties all yeild better results in energy delivered to the target. Worth pursuing that perfect spot on the curve eh!?

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому +2

      That should make a big difference. That's why many shooters use microfiber pouches because they are lighter. The whole goal is to reduce the overall weight of the pouch.

    • @alansmith2292
      @alansmith2292 11 місяців тому

      I have an app designed for airguns. Hawke Chairgun. (It can also be used for catapults.) Anyway a JSB Exact pellet, 8.44 grains at 800ft/s has muzzle energy of 12ft/lbs, the same pellet at 400ft/s has muzzle energy of 3ft/lbs. So double the speed you get 4 times the energy.

  • @davidhansen9665
    @davidhansen9665 Рік тому

    I been using 15 ×22 tappers for 9.5 steel, dont completely max out leave some room, and they perform well, one set I've clocked over 300 shots with precise accuracy. 7ml thick

  • @AmericanSlingshot
    @AmericanSlingshot Рік тому

    Best video on UA-cam, get some cans!

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      Lol thanks man. I will

    • @AmericanSlingshot
      @AmericanSlingshot Рік тому

      Just wondering if you have Merch, hat, shirt, hoodie?

  • @northeastslingshot1664
    @northeastslingshot1664 Рік тому

    Man. Your videos are great. Im always fiddling with band length. I burn thru bands but I also shoot a lot as a newer shooter. 100 a day if possible.
    I use .7 Snipersling for 9.5 and .5 for 8mm.
    My draw length is 30 inches....I cut them at 6 inches and it feels really stressed.

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      Well the .7 is heavy and feels heavy. Do you know how to check the elongation of the bands?

    • @northeastslingshot1664
      @northeastslingshot1664 Рік тому

      @@ATOMark Yes. My band length is 6 inches from 30" draw length.

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      @@northeastslingshot1664 you see I only ask because my draw is 30" too. We use inches up here in Canada but I learned all my measurements for bands in metric inch talk throws me off lol. Is 6" the total length of your bands? Before the pouch and fork attachment?

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      I like to mess with band length too. I like to try to get my draw weight down as far as I can while still shooting 265fps for target shooting. It really helps my accuracy with the light draw.

    • @northeastslingshot1664
      @northeastslingshot1664 Рік тому

      @@ATOMark i add a quarter inch for my last set for the clip. Thanks bub!!

  • @ChuckinSteel
    @ChuckinSteel Рік тому +1

    Very nicely done

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому +1

      Thanks man.

    • @ChuckinSteel
      @ChuckinSteel Рік тому +1

      @@ATOMark I forget a lot that some of our viewers are fairly new to the sport

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      Ya me too. I had just been asked this question alot lately. So I figured it was video time.

  • @Yinn224
    @Yinn224 Рік тому +1

    Hey Mark! Great video learnt a lot thanks!
    Quick question, I usually shoot 8mm steel and am using 0.5 Snipersling as per your previous recommendation, but I'm looking to change to Precise at it is easier to source from where I live. I know Precise is lighter than SS, which thickness would recommend for 8mm steel? 0.5, 0.55, 0.6 or 0.65?

    • @emandalli6537
      @emandalli6537 Рік тому

      From my past experience 0.55 is the best if you set it up right. its the perfect combination between speed and accuracy for an 8mm. Just my opinion

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      If you are just target shooting all of them will work fine. .5 I have reviewed before. It has a nice draw and lasts pretty well. I never tried .55 or 6. But the lighter draw the better for accuracy.

    • @Yinn224
      @Yinn224 Рік тому

      @@ATOMark appreciate the input Mark and Eman. Will probably try 0.55, just because I prefer yellow color over amber.

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      Really it's all about how you tune them.

  • @user-jj2sr6ql3y
    @user-jj2sr6ql3y 10 місяців тому

    항상 궁굼했던 결과물을 보여줘서 감사합니다

  • @mattcarolina
    @mattcarolina 10 місяців тому

    Badass

  • @Igorfun
    @Igorfun Рік тому

    I like precise bands , I have the 0.60 and 0.80 , for 8mm and 11mm, the 0.80 with 11mm steel breaks a brick in two in one shot.... nobody does their marketing but they are good.
    greetings from Belgium

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому

      Yes precise bands are great.

  • @danielgreen3715
    @danielgreen3715 Рік тому

    Will you do some Band Tests with some of the Thicker Elastic. 8 and. 7 with 9.5/10mm steel and say 12 mm steel

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому +1

      I have a few reviews with 6.5, 7, 8 with 9.5 and 11mm steel.

  • @user-nf4uv8bf6s
    @user-nf4uv8bf6s Місяць тому

    Buddy, where did you get your magnet ammo holder?

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Місяць тому

      Snipersling. It was made to attach to a belt. I just took the hook off and added a lanyard.

  • @JohnVentarino-ey5ln
    @JohnVentarino-ey5ln 14 днів тому

    Is 8mm steel 5/16.

  • @americanaward6794
    @americanaward6794 Рік тому +1

    🇯🇲

  • @juanascencio8741
    @juanascencio8741 Рік тому

    Where do u order gzk bands from their site or like Amazon?

  • @michaelsiao
    @michaelsiao 4 місяці тому

    hi 1 have 1.5mm bandsets. pls enlightem me when to actually use this. honeatly i tried it and its really hard. 😂

  • @jeromegeorge-dj7cs
    @jeromegeorge-dj7cs 11 місяців тому

    Min at Snipersling once told me when shooting competitively he changes bands at 300 shots as he senses a change in accuracy around there. So rather than wait for a band to break or accuracy to fade I just change bands after 300 shots. With my 20x 10 taper I can get 5 bandsets out of the 150mm width and 50 bandsets out of a roll. I reuse the pouches. So at $13/ roll / 50 sets a new handset costs around 25 cents with crystal tape or tape. Are slingshot shooters really 15:09 15:09 that poor that they are fretting over a few cents of band life? The difference between 400 and 500 shots out of a bandset is just a nickel. Plus I enjoy making bandsets and the joy of never having a band break and wack me in the face.

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  11 місяців тому

      There are many people that are concerned about longevity. Personally if I get 200 shots I am happy. I basically did this video because because I had some comments that said they get 1000 shots with max speed. It's just not true.
      I will be releasing a video about that very topic soon. Min is right 100% the draw weight drops and so does the speed which can mess with accuracy. He is not the only one how does that. Gaspar Acron a top shooter from Spain changes them every 200 shots.

    • @jimmynich4791
      @jimmynich4791 5 місяців тому

      Do you reuse the pouches on a new set of bands?

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  5 місяців тому

      @jimmynich4791 yes

    • @jeromegeorge-dj7cs
      @jeromegeorge-dj7cs 5 місяців тому

      @@jimmynich4791 I have pouches in daily use that are at least two or three years old. I use three hole pit pouches and some kangaroo. My pit pouches likely have at least 3,000 rounds each on them. They are soft enough to get a quality feel of the ball. When I introduce a new pouch I carry it around for days and during idle times twist and bend it several hundred times before shooting it. With the Roo I soak the pouch with a ball inside and bound up with thread. Let it soak until there are no more bubbles, then let it air dry. When the binding is removed I work the pouch in my fingers until it is soft. The pouch now has dimples like a broken in pouch develops only after weeks of use. I never shoot a ‘new’ pouch until it is at least manually broken in. Pouch release is 90% of the accuracy equation and having that “feel” minimizes ‘speed bumps’ and fork hits. Jerry in Alaska

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  5 місяців тому

      I tend to change my bands around 200-300 shots because I tune my bands for performance. I reuse pouches all the time. The older they get, the better they get. I have tested it, and you do see a drop in speed as the bands get to that shot count. Gaspar Acron, a world-class shooter out of Spain, does the same thing

  • @tecsavvy8536
    @tecsavvy8536 6 місяців тому

    where do you buy your materials? :)

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  6 місяців тому

      Omega slings, wasp, snipersling, cattyshack, simpleshot sometimes.

  • @qutube100
    @qutube100 Рік тому

    Whats the best combo for speed with 9.5mm in your opinion vicar!

    • @ATOMark
      @ATOMark  Рік тому +2

      Really depends on what I am doing. If it is just target shooting I would use light bands like .45-.5 and cut them with a little extra fat on them so the draw is nice and light but I still get around 250-260 fps with light steel. For a hunting set up I would use .5 taper 22-12 maxed out to reach over 300fps with 8mm steel. 9.5 I would use snipersling yellow tapered 25-12 or 15 with 5mm extra to my active for a little added longevity but still in the 250+ zone and it will lighten up the draw a little for accuracy.
      Fastest speeds I have ever achieved with 9.5mm steel was snipersling black .7 24-12 taper

    • @liddy85
      @liddy85 9 місяців тому

      ​​@@ATOMarkThe fastest I recorded was 410fps with 3/8 lead, approx 29ftlb.
      Double theraband gold 30-10 taper cut at 260mm, lasted about 20 shots then failed at the pouch.
      I shoot intuitively half butterfly, the bands stay warm since I have no sighting aim to hold.
      I have not experimented with the newer latex, though I have not shot in years. Just getting back into it.

  • @gobstoppa1633
    @gobstoppa1633 Рік тому

    MINT"

  • @dadanene6820
    @dadanene6820 9 місяців тому

    balls diameter mm.? tires are mm×mm.?