PS5 VS. PC! - Is PS5's Force Feedback as Good as PC?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Since Assetto Corsa Competizione was recently released as a native PS5 title, we've been receiving a lot of questions about how the PS5 version compares to the experience on a high end PC. So today we're going to be looking at the Force Feedback and how car handling is communicated to the driver using otherwise identical hardware!
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Just yesterday I did the same acc test on pc vs ps5 at home. my steering wheel is the TGT. With the same settings except the strength that on pc has to be lowered above 80 to be equal to 100 strength on ps5. I was testing almost 3 hours in batches of 30 minutes alternating all the time from PC to Ps5. I agree with everything that is talked about in the video, the sensations and the information that arrives at the wheel is better on PC, the sensations are better. for ps5 the feeling is more linear without so many nuances. once well used to both platforms the lap time at the end of the 3 hours was practically the same.
Be interesting to re-compare if/when the console version goes from 1.7 10 to ver 1.8, like the PC version is now.
Be better if they tested more wheels and actually just programmed the wheel settings to be optimized for each wheel base.
I agree when 1,8 comes out for ps5 then it should be revisited as I know the 1.8 are being programmed specifically for each console, hence the delay. Should be out this month. I suppose ultimately how much you have to spend on these things, if you spend 2 grand on a pc 1k on a rig and 900 on a wheel then I'd be hopping everything was much better. Taking out the 2k pc and replacing it with a 360 pounds ps5 it shouldn't be as good.
Great video. Definitely answering a question I've asked.
I know PC users claimed the 1.8 update changed their force feedback experience for the better. Unfortunately PS5 hasn't received the ACC 1.8 update yet.
It would be awesome if you could do a little update to this video if it does.
Thanks for the great content.
Yep will do. I’m pretty sure the majority of the difference I’m feeling is down to the lower refresh rate on the FFB though. So I doubt it’ll change much. Hopefully I’m wrong.
@@boostedmedia 1.8 added 400hz refresh rate, so 1.8 should also be adding that.
@@Sideways_Singh 400hz is the polling rate for all the data about the physics, tyres and so on, video refresh rate and FFB are another thing.
Because we don’t know the actual physics refresh rate on nextgen console version, we can just speculate about improvements. Maybe the physics on consoles has a sort of frequency cap to not compromise video performance.
It will be interesting to see the full PS5 output support at 4K 120hz (video refresh rate), but I’m quite sure they ‘capped’ the pshysics calculations to have the 4K 60hz steady video performance.
I’m just saying, maybe I’m totally wrong 😅
Ciao! 😉
@@boostedmedia Hi Will, the 1.8 console version will get a 400HZ physics engine. The update is set for next week. Maybe you can try it out and share your opinion. I know you are very busy so take your time. Congrats on your dreamhouse. Well deserved!
I use the Fanatec GT DD Pro with loadcell and Boost kit, and though I'm primarily a Gran Turismo fan, I do play ACC and iRacing as well.
I own ACC on both, and agree completely with everything you said. I have managed to get my PS5 times down to within 0.4-5 seconds on the PS5, but yeah, the fidelity simply isn't there.
The only real difference is I only have the GT wheel at present, and run an old Threadripper 2950x, 64gb DDR4 3200, 2080TI... plan to upgrade at the end of the year when the Ryzen 9 7000 series CPU's and Nvidia 40 series GPU's are available.
Great video, very focused and on point. Great job as usual Will!
Also, I'd love to be able to have just a short DM/whatever with you if possible.
Thanks, Kev.
Shoot me a message over on discord mate :) will reply when I can.
@@boostedmedia when I try it doesn't let me...I did send a Discord Friend request a while back.
Strange. Sorry. I have hundreds of friend requests. Maybe shoot me an email through the website contact form then :)
@@boostedmedia coolies, thx.
Assuming you have GT7. What do you think of it compared to ACC as far as FFB and details in the wheel? I got GT7, but I don’t have a wheel yet. I plan on having the same setup as you soon.
God dammit! This is so typical.. Last week I upgraded from csl elite to the Podium dd f1. Feeling disappointed about how bad ACC is on ps4(pro), specially after it turned out that the ps4 version of acc wasn’t receiving the same update, sooo I went on and got me a PC as well while I waited.
I then built a new rig using the exact same measurements as the Px-1, only I built it using wooden beams, painted black. Costed me like 100$, and there is absolutely no flex whatsoever.
First test drive today, and I have been smiling like a 5 year old for hours before being able to take a brake. I absolutely LOVE the feeling of immersion from the upgraded force feedback, not to mention the vast improvement in torque when going from csl elite’s 7nm peak to 20nm peak, using the podium wheelbase.
But then I get this UA-cam notification on my phone, leading me to this video. I usually really enjoy your content, but today I actually wished I didn’t watch.
Now I’m sitting in the shower, crying, screaming and banging my head against the wall while I regret buying the podium, instead of getting me a Csl DD with its 100nm!!🤯@11:00😉
Thx fer being honest in the video n not turning it into a master race thing. I have both a PS5 n a high end PC. I'm not any faster on PC than I am on Console. I understand that consoles dont match up to what PCs r capable of but its also a fraction of the price. Honestly, my GPU alone cost more than a PS5... What do we all really expect out of this equation?
Yep agreed. For the price it does a good job!
Could you redo this comparison since the update v1.8 is out on the ps5 now?
Went from PS5 to PC and used quite a while to get up to speed. But def worth the grind getting into. Still PS5 is more than good enough if on a budget 😊
Currently embarking on the same path and wondering if you have any tip & info ? Thanks!
@@BA-rh5hy Happy to help out in any way I can. Any specifics you`re wondering about?
@@MrAlengold I’m debating on this since I’ve been enjoying it a lot more on ps5 since the update. I have a Sapphire RADEON R9 390 and most of the parts, just missing a monitor and a bigger pc case at the moment. Will the r9 390 hold up well running acc? Also can I use my 32inch tv as a monitor temporarily? Thanks
@@willy08bm Yes and Yes. ACC can still look really great at slightly lower settings too. You'll only be needing 60 FPS though, so is totally gonna run it fine.
@@charlesbeeman thanks for your reply. Ordering a case today to get it set. 👍
Great review. Interesting to do the same test with the latest version?
good video - the findings didn't come as a surprise to me though. I like the camera bit with you driving with a nice transparent background. Something maybe quite cosmetic but intrigued me... as a content creator for a very specific target audience like sim racers, do you think your video thumbnails really do matter (i.e. thumbnail can be affecting a better view rate)? I can see a trend in the mainstream youtube and how almost all thumbnails follow the same pattern. However, we all know sim racing is a bit of a special cookie with its own rules or quirks ;)
Mate can u do one with graphics compare especially with the 1.8 update. And maybe show what a pc can do with reshader mods etc
The nice thing is, in theory, an update can possibly eliminate any and all discrepancies between PC and Console game play.
Do you think the difference is down to consoles being on build 1.7xx where as PC is 1.8?
This should be done once the console versions are up to par with the PC version on both series x and ps5 we have nothing but issues since the update many also lose all FFB during races. It's just a hot mess through and through.
Have the issues you talk of been fixed yet I’m have a Series X hoping it has been patched
@@magz9816 lots has been fixes since my post but now the end of May updates are pushed to September was hoping yo see the 1.8 version sooner rather than later not to mention the new dlc we won't get until end of year.
@@taxi615 Thanks for your response can I ask how’s the FFB now
@@magz9816 it's been great as far as I'm concerned
@@taxi615
Would you be so kind to share your FFB settings? In game and on the fanatec wheel.
Thanks a million!!
I have both pc and PS5 versions of the sim. Using the same Thrustmaster T-GT wheel and LCM pedals I noticed the PC version had more fidelity but the PS5 had stronger default ffb. Even setting the ffb to 100 on the PC it still wasn't as strong as the PS5 version.
I feel like this muddys the water when it comes to the fidelity on the PS5. My lap times with default aggressive setup on both mediums are almost the same.
Hey mate!
I switched my TGT & T-LCM to the Fanatec GT DD Pro with loadcell and Boost kit, and it's made a huge difference with non GT titles, both PS5 and especially PC, particularly ACC. Probably because ACC have close ties with Fanatec.
It's been just over a month now, and the only thing I'm still slightly adjusting to is the loadcell difference... the Fanatec feel with the CSL pedals is a completely different feel... it may be a single choice 60kg, but I have to use more force than I did with the T-LCM at near 100kg. I wouldn't say the feel is better, just different. The build quality is way better though. And the wheel and base is significantly better all around.
Definitely worth the switch if you can afford it IMO, especially if you're switching between Console and PC often.
For the 1 week I played Sport before GT7 was released, I was beating my PB's by 0.1-2 secs.
Hope you, Furbs and the crew are all going well, say G'day to them for me!
@@RaskalTheRabbit Brother! Great to hear from you!
If I could afford it I would make the switch haha. Furbs has the Elite and even though the build is next level compared to the T-GT and LCM pedals he can't get good ffb out of ACC on pc, ps4 and PS5. Very week compared to iRacing and GTS/GT7. So next for me will probably be a DD wheel. One day haha.
I'll pass on the best wishes to the boys. Hope you are doing well.
@@CSTBFO_jad yeah, I've always preferred lighter FFB anyway, I don't think I ever go above 4nm or so... the fidelity is something else though.
My GP is actually buying my old TGT & T-LCM (+T3pa's) for his grandson, and asked me today to find a stand for them. Plus he wants to pay me to be his coach for 6 months... he's giving me $5k cash for that and 24 1 hour lessons over a year! I told him half that is more than enough, but he insisted. The kid (14) has watched some of my old videos and wants me to teach him, so, yeah. Kinda humbling tbh.
the added ffb strength on the ps5 might be because the default preset is set to 100% in strength whereas my t300 is on 70-80% on my pc. not 100% sure if this is what is actually happening I just figured the ps5 firmware for thrustmaster wheels might be configured a bit differently to pc
@@nuztuz903 It was the same on PS4. Default FFB stronger than PC version at 100. Yeh might be something unique to TGT or Thrustmaster wheel bases in general. The good thing is you don't have to flip the GT switch to Other Mode anymore if you want play ACC. On PS4 I had to disconnect the TGT from the console, flick the switch and then reconnect to get acc to even recognise the wheel.
I run 2.18.3s on series x. I am excited to get the 1.8 update when it comes but I agree no matter what they do if the console stays at less than 400hz it will still be lacking compared to pc. I've played on both but run on console normally as my computer is dead. I love this sim regardless where I race
Also I have heard that next gen are at 120hz as well as 60hz so I don't know what it actually is but it's definitely a lower refresh rate than pc.
if there is a difference, than its a programmers decision, not a problem of missing power.
great review.. thanks!
in any other sim if you drive with so much understeer your fronts will be on fire within a lap :D
I just got a PC coming from xbox one x. Night and day difference.
Any reason you did not adjust the dynamic dampening to zero as you did with the PC?
2:15 are you blind? It 100 there and 100 in PS5. Damper was 0 because PS5 dont have this.
I have ACC on ps4 and have absolutely no FFB whatsoever. I have the gain turned up to 100% and still nothing.
Will try lower dumper on base settings.. Robotic feeling on ps5 desapear.. 👍 start from 20.. In case of oscillation raise natural dumper
I played F1 2021 on PC and Xbox Series X (CSL DD & F1 Wheel). No Challenge for the PC. EVERYTHING works better on PC.
I have no idea how the ffb feels in AC, but those understeer and missed apex could have been caught by sight without the need for any other cue.
Yep that’s definitely true. As I mentioned in the video I have no muscle memory with this setup which is a much bigger contributor to the lap times. Having a single projector dar away is wildly different from what I’m used to.
I like your steering, I am using exactly the same 👌
Was this video recorded before or after the update on the 21st which improved the FFB on CSL Elite and DD Pro?
Edit- Specifically the update for consoles on the 21st..
Should do a BLIND TEST. Have your brother change the ps5 to PC without you knowing which is which. See if you can tell which is PC, and which is console.
I’d be able to tell from the graphics and input lag
@@boostedmedia good point didnt think about that.
a lot of it breaks down to the game not having settings on console than PC. BUT the biggest problem is there just isn't a good sim for console, ACC on console controls great as it should VERY VERY close to PC, it just looks SOOOOOO BAD!!!!! GT7 tried but failed. so for sim racing to be worth while on console its gonna take a game dev to build a great sim for console. I'm talking wide displays, make your own cam angle, out all the goodies that console dont get into a console game, lets hope that forza motorsport will be the answer for sim racing on console...... eh one can dream right lol
Hi I am looking to move from ps5 to pc but really uncertain as to what good mid range pc to get and the best place to get it.. I'm only looking for a pre built would you beable to share any opinions on this please. I understand ill be up from $1500 upwards and I'll be wanting to run triples
Ps5 is still on 1.7 so it is running 333hz and will get 400hz when 1.8 comes out like the pc version did hopefully
I have the xsx and the pc version of the game. My times are the same and cannot discern force feedback detail difference at all.
I have ACC on xbox series x with this wheel base and i cant get any FFB out of my wheel.
Can ps5 run gran turismo 7 or any other games in full motion platforms? And if yes, how?
I don’t even know why I’m watching. Will never be able to buy the DD gt or a pc.
I got my eyes on the t248 thrustmaatwe on pa5 for F1
hey hey.... i was switching between console and PS5 for f1 2021... we all know f1 2021 isnt the best game in terms of realism, but it was a huuuuuge difference in FFB when switching from ps5 to pc. the FFB i felt on pc was way superior. the details and everything. i set all to the same. even the camera settings. also i set both to 120fps. i was about 2-4 tenths faster on pc which is ridiculous.
F1 2021 is a great game, but it's an arcade game compared to Acc.
did you took in account that a sony hardware is always full of input lag? maybe why your confidence wasnt there, in fighting game, timing are so different on Sony’s hardware for years.
How do you get it to play on the PC do you need a ps 5 as well
They changed the FFB on the console versions of ACC a couple of months after first release to "better align with what console users are used to" (or something to that effect.)
I read somewhere that the USB A port on the front of the PS5 (which I believe is the most common one to use for peripherals, and may be the only one you can use) is capped at 250hz refresh rate. Jardier did a similar comparison between PS5 and PC versions of ACC and said that he noticed massive lag between the two versions. This may be the reason, and may also effect the overall experience difference you faced.
I plug my wheel on USB on rear of my PS5
@@macgyverpt Mine dont work. If i put on the rear the heat turn my g29 off. Maybe with a quality wheel this dont happen.
you should retest die ps5 nowmwith 1.8 update
Good to sim that sim racing once again privilege pc users, as I am :)
Noticeable lack of force feedback. Thanks David perell could have made the game better but whined about the sounds of the bumps and sand under the car
For me console is just not worth it. Better just save that money for PC
everyone just drop the ps5 and get a pc way better almost same price
Good review.
Note that the PC version of ACC is at 1.8 with tire changes and on PS5 it is still at 1.7. This will make some difference in the FFB. I have ACC on PC and PS5 and before version 1.8, I almost didn't notice the difference.
jep... I immediately felt improvements with the big 1.8 Update
Interesting. I wonder when the PS5 will get this new update as well.
@@Schwing27 they said once around october/november
Yeap - that was when I was doing my comparisons and I didn't find a big difference in all 3 platforms. If anything, the Xbox version was the weakest.
Yeah, I think Ricardo hit the spot!
I also did notice a good difference on the FFB from 1.7 to 1.8. All that difference in detail mentioned on the video between PS5 and PC is exactly how I would describe the difference from 1.7 to 1.8 on pc. And I have a T300RS... so in direct drive must be felt even a bigger difference.
I don’t think this is necessarily correct. I played ACC on PC and my PS5 this weekend… it literally felt the same. I did not compare lap times, I will try that and see.
Great video! ... side note at 11:02ish you said your running the FULL 100nm 🤣🤣 that would be a wrist breaking wheelbase. It made laugh but I knew what you meant lol. I do love seeing these kind of unbiased comparisons thanks for sharing your experience with us
This is an awesome video. It’s the kinda stuff nobody else does but is important to so many when making the decision of what to buy. Nice job Will 👍🏻
Someone who creates sim racing videos for a living should be more informed to know that the PC version of ACC is updated to 1.8.12 whereas PS5 currently is running 1.7 and the 1.8 update for ACC was a HUUUGE update which changed everything and people had to completely change their setups and how they drove the cars probably should've waited until both platforms are running the same version but thats just me. Also the pressures of your car was all over the show not even optimum tire pressure some not even reaching 27 psi you want to be aiming for 27.5/7 pressures in this game its the first thing you have to learn without that basic 101 you wont reach peak performance on track and your car will feel like ass, would be nice if you could get a some good setups for the chosen car and a track which does these types of testing that way you will know the subtle differences and do some proper laps with the same equipment that way youll have a good understanding of the differences.
Could also be fact your locked to 60fps on consoles we're as pc cab get well over 100 fps I noticed it coming from wrc 10 on ps5 to the pc fps makes big difference because on wrc 10 I was doing stage on ps5 and I went pc and knocked 3sec off my time on 1st run on pc
Hey thanks for the video. Could you post your wheelbase (gt dd pro) settings you were using in the video on ps5 please.
I’m using the ones fanatac posted on their website.
Also couldn’t leave my gain on 100 after the update. Wheel was way too heavy. Using 60 now without clipping.
Keep up your great vids.
Grtz from Belgium.
I'm also interested in the settings.
Me too (without #)
Wauww this is really great!!!! I am on Ps5 and was wondering about this. Thank you for doing this
As always great video 💪
Just noticed on other user videos ACC got update on ps5 and 400hz setting is present so just wonder are details improved and if how they fifteen now days.
Just starting out… from a newbie… your channel has helped me so much… at this point I’m not making final decisions on upgrades until I check in with your great reviews… Thank you!!
Ps5 is ver 1.7 pc is ver 1.8. Many Changes were made to improve ffb in 1.8. So this comparison is a waste of time till 1.8 arrives
Series x here , 1.8.10 .4 version still the same , not improved at least on ts xw , maybe on direct drive
1.8 console update. Many of us are waiting patiently with building excitement. We all have only 9 days left till the major release what will change ACC gameplay a lot.
I’m from London UK and have been racing AC and ACC on PS4 and PS5. I’ve raced over 1000+ hours on AC and over 1000+hrs on ACC PS4 version. Now building up big time on PS5. Joined a league, 10TENTH RACING COMMUNITY,fantastic! True addict, aren’t you? Since release of ACC I had many serious problems with the game. And with every new update, with release of PS5 console, with new ACC console version I have felt a lot of new optimistic expectations followed by disappointment and a letdown from game developers. I’ve been lucky to always have a good FFB on my T300 Ferrari Alcantara edition and now DD1, but there were other problems what took a lot of nerve and patience. It’s hard to remember all the issues but there are few what stand out to me. For example not able to join multiplayer and the proposed fix was to delete my carefully selected 300 racing friends from AC and ACC. Of course I refused to do that and kept waiting till issue was fixed. That was a big wait but I used time to practice my racing in single player. Another problem is crashing Career. It crashed on three occasions trying to complete career endurance race of 3hours non stop racing. It crashed twice somewhere in last leg. Other day I completed the race, crossed finish line and while checking lap times game crashed not saving my career endurance progress. I was fuming! Another issue we all experienced was game simply crashing midrace, it happened a lot. So annoying and was makings me really angry when I had a good race. Then replay save crash needs to be looked at. Even now after all possible updates on PS5 software and ACC PS5 version updates I am experiencing game crashes, some DD1 disconnects, poor visuals as shading under cars, cars flickering. Other minor game bugs - Pit entrance notice issue, not able to use mapped buttons to look left/right as I can on AC version, no in cockpit turn indicators and headlighs LED’s. Sound issues after watching replay and rejoining track. One occation I had cockpit view flickering in career race, there was no flickering from outside view. Many gamers have poor FFB and other issues with game. The most major is game crashing and disconnects while racing leagues Championships. Over 2 years time since ACC console release game is not in a perfect state yet, but it’s playable and enjoyable. I wish there was more communication and a HELPING HAND between Kunos and UntoldGames who develops console version now. I wish thee was more communication from 505games what is distributor’s of console ACC. And I believe we console players deserve an APOLOGY from 505 games and Kunos for a big letdown because I believe game is not completed, it’s got many problems and is like in a beta version. We PS5 players are lucky to have both versions available to play side by side on PS5. I switch between PS5 and PS4 version because PS5 lobbies has small attendance numbers.
With 1.8 version PS5 and Xbox UntoldGames has to nail it. No excuses, it has to be perfection. Watching official Kunos ytube channel I learned Marcos, Aris and team still have that passion, they put a lot of effort developing PC 1.8 version what is a massive overhaul of ACC what changed already great game to something fascinating and they are proud of it. Would be shame if UntoldGames would do a poor job with console 1.8 version and drop all that KUNOS effort down in a mud. We don’t know what to expect precisely, announcement stated upgraded tyre model and 400hz + different liveries? We will see. Researching PC 1.8 update, numerous patch notes and reviews I learned about UPDATED rain visuals, rain tyre handling, rain track limits, cars BOP’s, reworked replay camera angles, mist and dew conditions, car night lights, bmw fuel consumption,there is so much more. PC 1.8 version is always updated. So which 1.8 version + latest update we console gamers will receive is not known yet. But it will change the game for sure.
Have you guys redone this now that ps5 has 400 refresh rate on the wheel?
I’m currently on PS5 and Series X. I am really tempted to get a decent PC for sim racing and Flight Sim 🤔
Worth it, especially since you got the other two. Just plan accordingly and you'll be enjoying your 3 game rotation. I do the same but with my ps5 and switch.
Go for it! And Add the Quest 2 and a PC-Link to your thoughts. Simulations in VR with decent Sim-Hardware blows your Mind!
@@Timlaut wow one thing at a time 🤣 I’m not made of money 🤣
@@BL00MYB0Y Sim Racing in VR is cheaper than three screens. 300 Bucks and 50 for the Link. Only downside: there are less Sim Racing Games that support VR than these who Support three screens.
But After ACC you don’t even want to play something different.
@@Timlaut I can imagine. I’ve played GTSport in VR and even that looks fantastic. 🤔 Don’t need as much space and wall sockets for VR over Triples either
Just got into Sim Racing on ps5 with a G29. I know its not the greatest wheel but research told me it was good starter wheel. I starting to throw down a little consistency but have yet to complete a full consistent lap according to the log in the upper right corner. What is the best settings for using a g29 in ACC on ps5. Thanks love the channel!
I just went from xbox to pc this weekend and I didn't notice a difference on ACC with a G920.
The big difference was the update that I couldn't get on my older xbox.
Logicrap. You need to save up for a few months and buy a csl dd. Not trying to be a smart ads but Logitech is so garbage. I went from g920 to the thrustmaster tx to a csw2.5 now. Fanatec is 20x better
thanks alot for that nice and informative video, May I ask you if its possible to share the wheel Settings you have changed to get a good experience with ACC on the PS5? Thanks in advance and have a nice one ;)
Great video as usual but as others have said, a bit premature given 1.8 will be arriving on console soon. Would be interesting to compare when both platforms are on the same version of the game.
Where was this a week ago? Did you miss the first update thrill ride? 😂😂👍
Liking the way you've cut you picture into the video. Looks great.
This is a great idea for a video btw.
A week ago I was busy with other content
Good video Will, can you share your wheel base settings?
Going from Assetto Corsa (Original) on console to PC on a G29 I could feel the difference even on the gear driven wheel though that game didn't get the best support on Console. Currently Assetto Corsa Comp is part of PS Extra which is nice way to try if you want and only have a PS5 but also currently in Steam sale is it on special if you have a capable PC.
Why didnt you put in your fanatec settings?
PC>PS5>Nothing
Just bought a G923 few weeks ago for the PS5.
I've been playing GT7, how does ACC compare?
good video, i think me and many others would appreciate a review of the new versions of the moza racing pedals. please do this review
Great video Will. I rencently switched from ps4 to PC with my G29 and honestly it was night and day. It feels so much better on PC.
Surprised you weren’t getting clipping with the FFB on 100/100? I have to run mine on 70 in game and 75 on base otherwise it clips, especially in places like Craner Curves.
Obviously could’ve been an update since I ran the CSL DD on my rig back just before Christmas.
I was surprised by that too.
There’s no way he wasn’t.
I'm not gonna lie to you the way its set for ps5 it feels so so good even when I compare to pc. Actuallt when I switched back to pc I thought there was an issue. Idk what it is about the console ffb but it feels heavy and I love it.
Uneven comparison, PS5 version 1.7 versus PC on 1.8 with improved FFB. So ofcourse the PC has better "feel" compared to the older version. If they really wanted an honest compare they would have used the same version of the game.
At least there are no cheaters on Consoles at least when playing GT7 because there's no crossplay, PC cheaters are very common nowdays 🐀 lots of PC Streamers cheating 🐀 making free money 💵 💰 and lying to their followers just the FACTS 😔.
Acc sucks on xbox series s with the fanatec csl dd. Forcefeedback is terrible compared to the first Assetto Corsa, or even compared to more arcade games like f1 22. It was fine on pc though, so I uninstalled it on my xbox. People have been complaining about the same problem for almost 2 years now and nothing has been done to fix it. Super disappointing
Thanks for the review. Please compare them again now with the DD+. I think the QR2 and a year's worth of game updates may have closed the gap? FullForce implementation could be the game changer as well. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, I'm just hoping that show is in the near future. My DD+ is in the mail. It's replacing a DD1 on PS5. Is the difference between console and pc worth buying a whole gaming PC setup these days?
I just want to say that the ffb is currently bugged on xbox series and ps5, after the “patch” last Monday. It makes the whole ffb less detailed than it was before this “patch”.
interesting. PS5 is just a mid-spec'd PC and I would not think FFB would be noticeably different with the same wheel and same code. High-end PC will give higher framerates (and responsiveness) and graphics fidelity. The code difference would be a significant factor rather than just the somewhat condescending "what do you expect from a console?".
@@jaseo no it was great before the last patch, but it’s just bugged since last monday.
Ive found the ffb became much stronger since the update... as fir the detail i cant tell the difference yet
What is the red wheel mount you are using on the DD pro?
Good question. Where can we get those please?
PC is just a beast on its own level, thanx for the video Will…I felt the difference immediately switching to PC. Robotic feeling is the perfect way to describe it! Keep up the good work Will and crew!!!
Being a novice with the option to buy my sons pc........what do I need on the pc to make it good for sim racing....is it all about the graphics card and if so which one is need ...Tia
@@Kartvillian I have a 3070 but I’m sure you can get by with much less! Frame rate is the biggest difference going back to console….I feel spoiled :)) I’ve always been for performance oppose to quality, hope this helps!
Why when you play console players you pc guys should be capped at refresh rate of the consoles bro. Your not as good as you think😂
A few hundred $ for ps5 vs a few thousand for pc. I'll stay on ps5.
It is a real shame that the PS5/SeriesX versions of ACC are not running an identical engine to the PC version. A big chance for cross-play has been missed.
They said something about way too many variables to take into consideration for cross play and it’s pulsar be worth it, I can’t remember the exact words but that’s what I saw somewhere about ACC
I was just about to see is crossplay was available on this game. Thanks for saving me some time.
They could do crossplay between consoles at least.
Out of all games available, it would make perfect sense to make racing titles cross play and I hope to see it in the future titles.
@@BA-rh5hy yea it would have been great, and it would mean more lobbies.
A fanatec wheelbase settings would've been very helpful not just the In Game ffb settings as this would really indicate how good the overall game ffb for both platforms.
if anyone is interested, heres my wheelbase csl dd settings for baseline comparison as a starting point.
SEN: 1080
FFB: 100
FFS: LINEAR
NDP: 60
NFR: 100
NIN: 70
NIT: 1
FEI: 70
FOR: 100
SPR: OFF
DPR: 100
BRF: 50
BLI: 20
In Game
GAIN: 100
MIN FORCE: 0
DAMPER: 100
DYNAMIC DAMPING: 150
ROAD EFFECTS: 75
FREQ: 400hz
STEER LOCK: 1080
FFB MULTIPLIER: 1.5
In ps5 the best i can with the normal setup because i dont know how to tune is 2:23.9
With csl dd gt pro
Re: 400Hz - Sampling and Nyquist frequency?
Ps5 console maximum ffb rate is 250hz.
I don’t know if ACC uses this 250hz in game on console. But the Fanatec manual says when the base is in ps5 mode it’s refreshing at 250hz. If the game is running lower rate then it’s whatever the developer has set
Possibly. Although that doesn’t necessarily mean the game is utilising all available bandwidth.
@@boostedmedia
Yes agree. Would be interesting to hear from Kunos regarding the ffb polling rate
Very curious as to the console FFB refresh rate. Wasn't able to find any documentation either.
Yeah. It’s strange. I can only assume it’s 60Hz.
@@boostedmedia Perhaps down to the cables used to connect to the PS5?
Or are we using the same cables with both PC and PS5? Just a silly thought ;-)
Same cables. Literally all the hardware was identical even down to the output device.
@@boostedmedia Oh damn... that makes it even more intriguing!
How do we go about measuring that refresh rate? - There must be an overlay for that somewhere - but then again, this is PS5 :(
Can anyone recommend settings for the G29 on PS5 now that we are on 1.9
I've been doing lap after lap of different circuits and I'm consistently 2 seconds a lap slower than the usual PC ACC youtube streamers. I'm on PS5. I've got my wheel dialled in quite well and car setups as best suited as I can and its always the same. No matter what I try it's always 2 seconds on any circuit.
DD pro, porsche gt3 podium wheel and v3 pedals.
I have the same issue. I think trail braking is the answer. I am awaiting my delivery of the csl DD and load cell pedal. I am going to learn how to trail brake when they arrive as the old Logitech doesn't lend itself to trail braking very well.
Why would anyone play ACC on a PC? PS5 is only $400. LOL
This was 2 years ago. I’m sure the FFB has been updated.
Way off topic,, so there'll be cross-play with console people yeah?
Don't see how you can really compare the 2 . Ps5 costs £500 and his PC costs how much ? 2 to 4 grand? Obviously there's gonna be a difference
That’s kinda the point. Wanted to see what the difference actually was…
Did I miss something? You mentioned you’d talk about wheel settings and I didn’t see them in the video? I can see a link for GT7 settings in description but not ACC. Anyone got good recommendations for DD Pro settings for ACC on PS5?
OF COURSE YOU WILL SAY YOU PREFER THE PC VERSION, YOUR PRODOMINATLY A PC PLAYER, just like a CONSOLE PLAYER WOULD SAY CONSOLE IS BETTER
P.C. master race, confirmed by Boosted!
Got it on pc today and must say its horrible on pc compared to ps5! The game is filled with bugs.
Had to invert pedals to make them work, ffb steering is direct and stiff and gives zero feeling for the game and suddenly the ffb just disappeared. Required alot from pc so I could only play in hd/High. My ffb steering ratio change from time to time. It went into window mode everytime I started a race so i had to change resolution all the time. So horrible none existing plug and play experience. Sad that ps5 servers is all dead already as its way, way better on ps5 for me.
Acc on pc is amazing. Tried yesterday the new dlc, that Porsche cup car with no tc is a beast. So fun to drive.
Agree, got 2 days on the content and my csl dd packed up.. 😔
Kudos. Had tried on both platforms, it is as what you said: the finer details are missing still, but the strength is there