Broke is a mindset problem. Read "Creating Money" by Sanaya Roman. If too broke for a book, PFDs are out there. Open your mind or stay broke. There are people who confuse brokeness with virtue, but do you want their sympathy or even admiration? No human points won there unless it's part of your monk lifestyle of serving and helping.
A steady cockpit with no flex and ergonomics is better than having the most expensive wheel. A cheap wheel mounted right is way more important than how expensive it is.
That's the issue with UA-camrs. They get a cheaper wheel and put it on a wobbly desk and sit on an office chair or foldable cockpit and complain about it. How about being fair and mount it on something solid like how their dd's are mounted. With the proper seating position and wheel and shifter.
I agree about the steady cockpit. I recently got a solid cockpit and mounted my Logitech G 923 on it and the difference between now and my desk chair setup is like day and night. On my first run I shaved 3 seconds on the track that I was driving on just before I made the switch.
Maybe to an extent but like with all of these upgrades it’s still possible to achieve the same performance. I was using a desk and chair with wheels for ages and got within 0.5 secs of the best times and after upgrading to a rig and pedals i find myself in a similar area maybe even slower. Personally I think what higher level equipment offers especially a direct drive wheel is faster learning and improvement as long as you can understand what the wheel is telling you
My first mistake was thinking I could actually be competitive in league racing. I had these high hopes of achieving podiums on online races and even winning league races. The sad reality is after being addicted to sim racing for the last 7 months. I’ve come to terms that I’m mediocre at best. I don’t say anything to discourage or crush anyone’s dreams. Just try to be realistic, it’s a large world out there, and you’re not the only person out there looking to get paid for competing in sim racing leagues or getting a sponsorship for xyz company. In the last 7 months I’ve neglected my girlfriend, my job, the gym and most importantly my sleep/ rest for this addiction. Tread carefully and sim in moderation. Good luck out there.
Sim Racing is not a game for 40$/€, where a lot of ppl buy it and play it a bit, so that you have a lot of bad players you can compete with even if you are not so good. Sim Racing is expansive, so everyone who has invested a lot of money is serious about it. Even the "bad" ones are good. Its as if you are joining the F1 and expect to not get last. If you are mediocre, you are actually quite good. The middle of the Top 20% ppl is still Top 10%.
I am totally not great and my iRating on iRacing is around 800. But I got in my split some nice battles, I did join a league where I raced against guys with 2k iRating while I was the lowest one. But I never finished last as put my expectation on the lower side, but still... It was rewarding finishing these kind of races. I also did couple of months ago my first IMSA Michelin Pilot race on iRacing and finished in top 5, my best result in a longer stint race. And it was still rewarding as I finished my race. I always remember that even when I can be fast at certain points, there will always be faster guys. And as a sim racer, you pretty much race against the whole world, it's not that you are racing like in GT or F1 against the same guys so you never know how these guys will drive.
Thing is you've been playing for 7 months these ppl been playing for years you may feel like you've hit a barrier but you just gotta keep learning like you ain't gonna become god level of skill in less than a year nobody does Like aryton senna didn't just become good You just need to remember these games don't give you 100% feedback so you gotta use what ur given which can be annoying at times
Just find a better gaming/life balance m8 and give yourself permission to fail a few times before you're the world's greatest driver. You're going to get fast. I've had a hell of a struggle getting there. And I'm still slow as hell. But, each day I try to get better and focus on my racecraft, I get better. I may not see it in lap time right away but, if I have 3 bad days in a row you better believe the three after that I'll have learned exactly what mistake I was making, and never make it again.
I've won a handful of races in sim racing the last 15 years. I'm a mid pack racer. Fighting for 12th position is just as much fun for me as battling for 1st. I just enjoy the racing. And now in VR it is absolutely a blast. It can become addicting. Don't let it.
This video was great, only thing i would add to it would be to not overload yourself with information on the screen, you already have enough to pay attention to without all the distractions of overlays detailing every piece of information. Sometimes its nice to turn everything off and just drive the car when learning a new track or just practicing.
I feel like a lot of people who would get into sim racing feel its too expensive or that you have to be some sort of god tier racer or whatever, all you really need to have fun is a decent wheel, some decent pedals, and a good screen... Just have fun, it's a video game, sure it's competitive but simracing ultimately exists so people can enjoy themselves doing what they love to do... go fast
Even if the core statement in "better gear doesn't make you faster" is true, there are massive gains to be had in the lower price brackets, especially when you aren't a pro or don't have too much time. I switched from my G27 to a CSL DD and while I've had plenty of time over the years with the G27, since I've got the DD wheel with LC pedals, I've gotten less and less time to actually drive but still I'm getting faster and make way fewer mistakes because the better FFB helps me when driving on the edge and recovering corners that would have seen me spinning around with the G27.
Better gear does make a difference. Moving to a dd wheelbase from belt driven, and moving to load cell pedals from potentiometer pedals improved my driving alot. I make way less mistakes, and i can feel the car on the slip angle with the high force dd, this allows me to be on the edge of grip all the time, and still never spinning the car. This was not possible for me with my belt driven wheel. The pedals made my braking way more consistent. Better gear does not give you skill, but it does give you the opportunity to use your skills. If i was to start as a beginner again, i would buy the better gear to start, and skip the market wheels.
Mistake number 5 is for sure THE most important. Because in the end, when you will have a very good fight on the track, either if you lose or win, you'll love the battle itself when it's clean ^^
I'm sorry but I disagree with the idea that better gear doesn't make you quicker. While its true that if you just go out and buy the best of the best while never actually learning any technique you'll be just as bad, having certain parts of equipment like loadcell pedals (which you even say yourself; "Nothing will compare to the in-game performance jump you see from loadcell pedals") will always benefit you. Yes you can be as quick or quicker than someone with better gear, being comfortable using your setup and having a better feel will always eventually equate to a performance increase, and the only way to be comfortable and have a better feel is buy investing in your setup. Weather that's pedals a cockpit or a wheel base is up to you. Personally I used a g27 for years before recently buying a Fanatec DD. I replaced the original Logitech pedals early on with TLCM and both times I upgraded I managed to gain pace overall. However the largest advantage I gained was from investing in a cockpit. Only a cheapish one, a playset I got from FB Marketplace. But being in it, and having a fixed mount setup with minimal flex in addition to just being in a comfy sitting position defiantly helped my pace.
totally agree, if you are just starting out, and lets be honest, suck at the game. That won't help, but if you have trained and feel y9u ae going as fast a possible, but just can't be consistant, thats where better gear helps.
I see where both points are valid. Yes having a g29/g920 or similar is perfectly fine to start out and can even be used at the top level. However eventually upgrading will definitely gain an advantage if you have gotten the fundamental skills down. My experience of this is a more extreme case but I went from a thrustmaster T80 which had 180 degrees total steering angle, no Force feedback at all other than a rubberband to centre the wheel. If the wheel wasn't bad enough the pedals were atroucius, but I was still trying to progress through Iracing and I got up to D class with 1.6k Irating but Soon after I got a CSL DD 8Nm with the mclaren wheel and the thrustmater T-LCM pedals that have a loadcell brake and In my first lap in the mx-5 and F4's whilst figuring out my settings I beat my previous best by 2 seconds! My example as I said I pretty extreme but yes gear will definitely make a difference and the starting gear will ultimately decide how far the jump in experience and performance is.
Direct drive makes you better than with a belt driven when you reach a certain experience level. You get more information and it makes you more confident and it's easier to notice wheel slip and roadresistance, which makes you faster. Not a lot in short races, but everything counts and combined with a loadcellbrake it's easily a couple of seconds each lap, which is a lot in a 20 minutes race.
Just want to say I really appreciate these guides. I have not purchased any gear yet but am hoping to get into sim racing very soon. These guides will help me when I go to buy and not make “rookie” mistakes 😊
The last point is the most important one. How often i trained a car/track combination until i could not improve anymore before entering a race, just to get bumbed in the beginning of the race, until i really did not like to go racing anymore. Then i switched to fuck it. Just entered the races without a lot of training or no training at all if i already knew the car or track enough and had fun. If you get involed in an accident and cant continue, just enter the next race.
As someone who has been doing this for 6-7 years with a logitech g920 (I am finally upgrading), thousands of hours, just changing what I do like from drifting to rally to racing to just driving bonkers crazy cars with too much power for your own good I have never gotten burnt out, I am really fast and I would say that my car control is on the top 0,1% atleast. I am still very unknown person in the simracing community as I do online racing not so often and I haven't previously been active in the community even on any discord servers or anywhere. Maybe I am a bit mysterious driver out there as I do have some world records on RBR, but no one in the community even knows who I am. But now I have started getting included in the community quite a bit more as I have found that I can help newer drivers quite a lot to become better drivers and I have some knowledge on the sim racing gear even though I am only now upgrading myself. I don't know the point of this message but that's fine I guess.
I bought the Logitech G920 wheel and pedal set. Just need to set the G920 at my desk. I am typically guilty of buying the best for day 1 simply because I always tend to go all out but it would be better to make sure that I will stick to sim racing first, then I'll invest in a better setup. Now I need to figure out which simulator to start racing in.
Not really, got my brother into iracing, he did it for a week on a g923, then upgraded to the logitech pro wheel and pedals and he isn't any faster at all, I still beat him easily with a g923 of my own. You can have the great equipment but if your shitty at driving, better stuff won't make you fast
Oh my god I have never watched a video with no intro. That was so nice I was just immediately invested and didn’t have to go through 2 minutes of crap before we actually got to the content
there is one gear upgrade that will make you significantly faster no matter what and that is going from wheel stand or desk setup to a cockpit, its a night and day difference. I could never brake super consistently with the wheel stand but with the cockpit its so much better.
I went from a 920, got proficient on that wheel then upgraded my set up to a Moza R9/SRP Pedals/CS2 wheel and it’s definitely a major step up over a G920 but that just added a learning curve to get better on the brakes and steering since I can feel WAY more in road and curb effects
The last one is so true, the only driving games I have is American truck simulator and Beamng, while they aren’t hardcore sims they are so enjoyable when you experience it with friends
I’m still using a controller and can usually get within 2seconds of the world record on most tracks, sometimes I’ve made it into the top 100, I feel the only thing holding me back now is lack of feedback at all, trail braking is difficult with zero feedback, steering feel or breaking traction is visually only and there’s no steering feedback at all and throttle input can be difficult and snappy with a controller. I have never used a wheel but looking forward to trying one.
I fell victim to a few of the point you said. If only i've seen this earlier. Like years into the pit running hardest brake resistance. Causing fatigue to my knee just simulating what the real world felt based on what i see from the internet. I believe your point will helps many out there. Good job.
Your seat is a big factor. if it is a high end cockpit or just a cheap chair it doesnt matter. What matters is to not make you feel tired. Now for the gear, i think the best you can achive comes down to your level of understanding how everyrhing works, setups, driving techniques, braking, accelerating, turning, racing lines, weight transferring, just to name a few, and be able to progress over time. Fancy stuff looks good but dont make you fast. Practice patience and persistence will. I have felt a lot of times "this is the maximum i can do" and when i see the overall times i am 20 seconds behind the top time (in EA Sports WRC for example). I don't think i would have done any better in expensive equipment. Big world out there and a lot of people are into sim racing so the bar is pretty high right now. Try to enjoy as much as possible and dont feel overwhelmed.
All but 2 of my iRacing wins on oval tracks, came from a Logitech G25, Which I had to upgrade my G25 due to Windows 11. And I did buy a Logitech G920 and I hated the brake pedal due to that rubber plug in the spring, so I took it out and the brake still sucks. So I sold the G25 and G920 and bought me a Moza R5 Bundle and got me a Leo Bodner adapter for my Logitech G Force shifter and I couldn't be happier, Well I could I guess.
Great Video! About your first mistake, it is partially true about the gear, but my point is next: You have to know how to tune/set/configure your gear. FFB, excellent example. Many ppl get clipping on their bases, and they think it is broken. But knowing how to set it right, IS crucial.
Also don't just set it up and adjust so you can reach everything and sit comfortably and forget it. Adjust the spring preload on the pedals, play with different springs and damper settings. You might have that "ah ha!!" moment where it just feels right and you actually can modulate the brakes properly and have a smoother throttle response. You can practice and get used to it sure, but you might just find a setting that works better for you right away. Especially if you are heavy footed. Also I can't stress enough, set a small deadzone so when you rest your foot on the pedal it isn't registering movement and also I recommend a small deadzone at the max point of throttle so that you get 100% input. Some pedals will register 98 or 99% when fully pressed and to get 100 you should set a small deadzone. Usually 3% or so is good in my experience so you get 100% before the max travel distance is reached and you aren't wondering why you can't keep up on straights. Likewise for the brake pedal, you may be better off adjusting the settings so that 100% brake input comes before the full pressure depending on how you have it setup with the spring preload etc. I have known people to use a very stiff spring but then they can never get enough brake input because they can't push the pedal enough and it's like pressing on a brick wall thus they can't modulate properly. Using the software to see the input based on your pedal pressure can help you visualize what is happening and you can adjust the pedal stiffer or lighter depending on your needs. Too light and it will be like a light switch and very twitchy, too stiff and it will be difficult to modulate and be precise.
Great video and good information for this new racing sim rookie in my sixties and have wanted to do this for a decade but life often got in the way, but now I have more time for me. 😄
iRacing and Assetto Corsa for the mods are my go to. iRacing for the competitive side of things and AC with mods for the career mods and other cars I can just use to race AI or other people in online lobbies without worrying too much.
Thanks for this. I've got the entry level Logitech g29 set with the shifter and the Challenger x cockpit. I'm just starting out but i was feeling like I'm missing out by not getting a more expensive wheel .. Point 1 and point 5 are the best tips that I really needed to hear. Subscribed!
Glad to hear that some of the top people are still using basic gear. I have a bad habit of overbuying when I get into a new hobby, but I don't want to waste a bunch of money on something I don't know that I will stick with for awhile. Sounds like a G29 will be just the ticket to get going.
gotta disagree with the first point.. i have a thrustmaster t80 and i definitely think buying a wheel with force feedback will make me a better driver immediately
This video is the reason I upgraded my g920 pedals to the logi Pro pedals and I want to say thank you, I already enjoy sim racing again for now. Just did a 10 lap stock pedals to 10 laps with the pro pedals and shaved .3 with more consistency
@@Vinsanity-ud3wj for me it’s not about the lap times I throughly enjoy the experience more, I can drive hard in traffic, and lap times are more consistent to the point I’m enjoying it and willing to race anything at any moment. I need about 10 minutes or less of practice and I’m ready to be top %50
A fun thing you might run into if you just straight to high end gear after having tried what is effectively a glorified joystick (a.k.a. a wheel with basically no feedback or very little) is that you'll most likely be slower for a while compared to your old setup. And this just frustrates people lol
As someone who is currently using a Logitech if your going to buy it new and not used for less then 100 I’d recommend just getting an entry level direct drive the Logitech is okay but you’ll be heavily lacking in the pedal department and the size of the wheel makes it feel like a toy it’s still very fun to use but I’ve seen a heavy drop in my lap times and all I can boil it down to is the pedals luckily just ordered a set of sim jack ut pedals off Amazon after seeing how much better they seem then even the low end moza or fanatec products
Right off the bat #1 hits home. I have spent a bit on my rig and I know that I'm getting passed by 12 year olds playing with an old Xbox 360 wheel mounted to an ironing board looking at portable Blu-ray player screen 10 feet away and using junk pedals. BUT it's still hella fun!!
The last point is honetly one of the most important. Spending all the money to get into this amazing hobby but then getting burnt out will leave you questioning if it was a good idea to spend so much on something you no longer do or enjoy as much as before. It is important to have fun first or else the burn out is inevitable and will make you feel regret!
My first upgrade needs to be a wheel stand or cockpit, since I race in a computer chair on carpet. Even with just my stock G923 pedals they move around a bit too much, when using the carpet bar too..
I personally believe that you can develop your skills faster on a higher end sim rig, the end result might be the same but on one sim it might take a month and on an other 5 months😅. It last that was my experience with a ps 4 controller vs a Logitech g29
I am super new @ simracing and was doing like my 4th mx5 cup race this morning on my oculus. I was in the sickest battle for 2nd for like 8 laps and I felt relaxed and locked in. But I realized that my heart was pounding when the race ended. So serious. It's been a dream forever. Spent all last weekend building a sim rig for my Moza bundle and loadcell mod pedals.
@@ASMCourtney I race on a desk with the Logitech g920 still stock and Rift S and did an arca Menards race yesterday me and 4th place were .001 seconds apart I almost took position in the last corner i was shaking afterwards but man was it the most incredible thing and also the entire race i was just right behind his bumper best race I've ever had and Moza is what I want to move to after I get all my fundamentals down
If it was true that high end parts wouldn't make you faster then all epsorters/youtubers would be sitting with g29s 😂 high end loadcell pedals are known to make you brake better and therefore makes you faster. High end DD base will give you better precision so you can save those 0.1 seconds but the fundamental of this is that you need the skills to extract the benefits of high end parts.
For anyone that has Logitech pedals and hates the stiff brake pedal bind the brake to the clutch pedal and use the paddles if you like to shift manually and never you’ll never have to use that trash brake again
Better gear can make you more consistent which can make it easier to improve. However if you aren’t actively looking to improve then it will reinforce bad habits. Buy the best gear you can afford that makes sense and learn from everyone
Just bought myself a g923 and man do I suck. I have worse performance than I had on the controller. But man is it fun. I only do 1 proper race per day because it's genuinely tiring. For the rest, I just drive different cars on different tracks. Soon I will try manual shifting with the pedals, then move on to the h-gate shifter.
No, what I was thinking was that higher end gear won't make me buy twice and that's exactly how it turned out. Btw. I also disagree with your statement that higher end gear wont make you faster. While it's true that there are some really fast guys on Logitech G29's out there, everyone would benefit from higher end gear within the realm of their own potential,...even the fast guy on the G29. If nothing else, it will make you more consistent and that's key. Yeah sure, at some point, spending even more money won't give you any benefit at all but there is a threshold where it absolutely makes sense to invest in the hobby if you're serious about it. Solid rig, load cell pedals and bucket(!) seat. 10Nm+ Wheelbase, in exactly that order.
I just disagree with the first point. the reason why NASCAR esport drivers can use Logitech wheels and be good is because you're driving in a circle and don't need 80 million newto metres of force
I just bought G29 without a shifter and a half cockpit. I don't know how to drive yet. I was even slower than with a controller. It is really difficult
definetely does make you faster though, used a g920 and then upgraded to moza r9 with ks wheel and have gotten faster by almost 3-4 seconds on each track
Given the fact that most real life cars are boring, I'm looking to get into sim racing just to be able to enjoy driving again. I had an 1986 Honda Civic CRX Si in the 1990s that was an absolute joy to drive. I would love to be able to find a game that had that model so I could relive my youth again. :D
Personally the upgrade to load cell pedals made no difference to me, it is definitely possible to be accurate and consistent with cheap pedals. what helped me is using pedal overlays to build the muscle memory. Haven’t upgraded to direct drive yet but I’m interested to see if that makes a bigger difference which my logic makes me suspect that it will.
#2 should be : upgrade RIG before pedals. i upgrade pedals first but nowhere to mounth these without moving makes me using CLUTCH pedals as a brake ,until i get wheelstand even. so get wheelstand/rig before pedal upgrade. or if u know u can mount pedals somewhere it dosnt move.
in response to the first one, what about the fact that my Thrustmaster TMX doesn't have enough keyinds to adjust anything on the car? I can't even have a button for windshield wipers in ACC
I disagree with the first point . The pros who use the t150 (which I have ) most likely upgrade their pedals hence (spending more for better gear) as the the default pedals are just ass , and I’m sure they aren’t using the plastic weightless pedals in those championships. And also oval racing doesn’t need that much . When u talk about doing laps on Nurburgring on acc that’s when u notice that cheap gear sucks as I have that problem where I constantly either brake too much or too little as the base t150 pedals are atrocious hence the option to upgrade to the t3pm I think they are called (correct me as I know I’m wrong) which still leads into better gear making y faster from being more consistent as a result of the better gear
T150 is awful. I had one. You can't even compare it to direct drive. It's more like a toy. You need to experience direct drive, and you will never go back.
Just bought Moza R9 base and steering wheel and pedals unused from an R5 bundle. Thinking of getting a load cell eventually, but should probably buy a rig before that? I guess it's not so wise to have the load cell loose on the floor... 🤔
If the budget is tight, just build your own rig. Get some wood, slap it together and buy a seat on a scrap yard. It's a hella lot cheaper than even the cheapest rigs out there. And UA-cam has a ton of vids on how to make one on the cheap. I built mine for less than $50
Man sim racing community seems so negative. These videos are awesome. Great production quality. Can tell you put the work in. Good job!! Keep em coming😊
i have 5 sim racing games installed on my drive but waiting for my G29 kit to arrive before i even begin. I am into VR and started pretty much the same way, start with the least expensive Quest 2 and see if it's for me. then once i am experienced i can upgrade and know what my needs and wants will be at that level. if i bought the best now i would only be guessing that i picked the right brand and model without actual knowledge from experience.
I was gonna get better pedals but then my left paddle shifter on my ES wheel broke so. I have the SR-P hybrid load cell so it’s not like I had the lites, but still.
Starting with a t150 8 yesrs ago, then a t300 and then this year GT DD Pro 8nm, Mclaren GT3 v2 rim and Elite v2 pedals. Loadcell brake was a game changer as was losing that horrible dead zone. Finally ditched PS5 for PC a couple of months ago and triple 32in 1440p monitors will have my rig complete, i think lol. It never ends
I agree with the gear sentiment. I bought a $1300 Fanatec- honestly I am no better than with the $550 Thrustmaster... In fact I was fastest with a PS5 controller in GT7.... So ....
NGL the NASCAR comment has me dying 😂 you turn left. Yes there's lots of adjustments and some left foot braking, but the steering hub is not as necessary as rally, gt spec, or drifting. Especially rally and drifting.
I would also add to do i lot of research before you buy anything, i.e watching reviews and if ur lucky enough try some gear in stores, events or friends house. For myself the biggest jump in my lap time but mostly my consistency was a chassis and pedals upgrade. Yes I agree that if you whale from the start with all the best gear it will not make you better but if you are sure that you will stick with the hobby, investing a little more will save you some money in the long run. I started a year ago and didnt know where I should put my money. I bought a wheel stand that I could hook my desk chair into. that was bad . your better off with a cheap dedicated chassis.
I need some advice. I’m not a big fan of driving games but I’ve always been intrigued with getting a rig set up. I don’t hate driving games. Just find them boring on controller. Should I try my luck and get a rig?
Sure. I love driving. Been driving 20 years. Never tracked it or sped. It costs money. My friend got me into track racing 8 years ago and it is fun. The REAL fun for me is Rally Racing (wrc), that will show you how well you can understand a car and weight transfer really fast. And being able to nail a turn that had been ending your life is way better than hitting an apex and shaving .3 seconds off your race lap.
My take is that you really don't need to be ultra competitive in the first place. Realise that racing skills, like all other skills are distributed on a Bell curve. You probably are mid and that's perfectly fine. You can get better with practice but don't expect miracles. If you don't enjoy the intrinsic act of driving then don't expect major returns from better gear. In fact the diminishing returns of really high end gear are really small. Worth it for a very niche crowd maybe but you can get 95% of the experience with entry level gear. People get really anal about this stuff and hyper gate keeper-y about what gear is supposed to be more realistic. But in the end all that matters is that you are enjoying yourself. If you are using a xbox controller and you are having a great time then that's 100% valid. The gear is totally optional and really only degenerate halfwits like myself spend serious cash on it. But if you happen to be in that miniscule group of highly skilled drivers who race for the big bucks then I guess every slight advantage gear can give you might be truly worth it. It becomes part of a meta game at this level. And even in this tier better does not necessarily mean more expensive. If the stuff you use works for you then that's all that matters. If you want to buy new stuff just try and go for gear that has a good reputation within your budget but don't feel the need to stretch it beyond your means. Don't buy shit like this on credit. It's a money sink that can get out of hand really fast. The second hand market is a testament to the broken dreams of many aspiring sim racers. It's also a good option to hunt for bargains.
I disagree with the idea that expensive sim gear doesn't make you a better driver it 100% does. I Sim race for fun and I've been doing it for about 4 months with a Logitech a desk and a Xbox one. My fastest time I was able to get around the nurburgring was a 7.30 but when I went to the real nurburgring ring and tried a simulator I did 7.00 and I was holding the car back so much 😂 that setup bought me 30s
@@adamm2716 fair, I would give it another go. do a game like beamng or forza horizon and just cruise to get used to it. going full blown right out of the gate isn't to good
Stop. take a week or two to get used to it. try watching youtube in VR at first. its a bit like getting used to being on a boat. Simrig in VR is something i could never go back to even the best triple monitor setup.
@Mystic_Chizu I love vr, but I think without a larger FOV, a triple monitor setup would still be better, no? Not mentioning the steep motion sickness "learning curve." I do wonder if a motion rig would help with the motion sickness, idk, make more sense to the brain.
I’ve got a wheel stand, and I want some new pedals, currently I have the MOZA SR-P lite, I don’t know what to get, I don’t have thousands of dollars to spend on pedals, what should I get?
You must not like him much or you haven't tried better pedals for the price. Will Ford literally calls this the worst pedal choice..."CRP" missing an A.😂@@Hdawg187-ln4ww
Better gear helps alot with enjoyment as well. I think it is best to skip to DD and good pedals and cockpit if you are even half serious about this. Dont waste time with G29 and playing on a desk...
Mistake no1:
Getting into Simracing(I am eternally broke)
This is mistake #0
This isn’t a mistake this is the hobby 😂
@@Octane_Overdrive nah it’s your life now
Getting into simracing is not a mistake, being broke is a mistake
Broke is a mindset problem. Read "Creating Money" by Sanaya Roman. If too broke for a book, PFDs are out there. Open your mind or stay broke. There are people who confuse brokeness with virtue, but do you want their sympathy or even admiration? No human points won there unless it's part of your monk lifestyle of serving and helping.
A steady cockpit with no flex and ergonomics is better than having the most expensive wheel. A cheap wheel mounted right is way more important than how expensive it is.
That's the issue with UA-camrs. They get a cheaper wheel and put it on a wobbly desk and sit on an office chair or foldable cockpit and complain about it.
How about being fair and mount it on something solid like how their dd's are mounted. With the proper seating position and wheel and shifter.
Followed by setting up the force feedback correctly in games like Assetto Corsa.
I agree about the steady cockpit.
I recently got a solid cockpit and mounted my Logitech G 923 on it and the difference between now and my desk chair setup is like day and night.
On my first run I shaved 3 seconds on the track that I was driving on just before I made the switch.
Maybe to an extent but like with all of these upgrades it’s still possible to achieve the same performance. I was using a desk and chair with wheels for ages and got within 0.5 secs of the best times and after upgrading to a rig and pedals i find myself in a similar area maybe even slower. Personally I think what higher level equipment offers especially a direct drive wheel is faster learning and improvement as long as you can understand what the wheel is telling you
Me sitting in my foldable lawn chair playseat challenge and reading this xD
My first mistake was thinking I could actually be competitive in league racing. I had these high hopes of achieving podiums on online races and even winning league races. The sad reality is after being addicted to sim racing for the last 7 months. I’ve come to terms that I’m mediocre at best. I don’t say anything to discourage or crush anyone’s dreams. Just try to be realistic, it’s a large world out there, and you’re not the only person out there looking to get paid for competing in sim racing leagues or getting a sponsorship for xyz company.
In the last 7 months I’ve neglected my girlfriend, my job, the gym and most importantly my sleep/ rest for this addiction. Tread carefully and sim in moderation.
Good luck out there.
Sim Racing is not a game for 40$/€, where a lot of ppl buy it and play it a bit, so that you have a lot of bad players you can compete with even if you are not so good. Sim Racing is expansive, so everyone who has invested a lot of money is serious about it. Even the "bad" ones are good. Its as if you are joining the F1 and expect to not get last. If you are mediocre, you are actually quite good. The middle of the Top 20% ppl is still Top 10%.
I am totally not great and my iRating on iRacing is around 800. But I got in my split some nice battles, I did join a league where I raced against guys with 2k iRating while I was the lowest one. But I never finished last as put my expectation on the lower side, but still... It was rewarding finishing these kind of races. I also did couple of months ago my first IMSA Michelin Pilot race on iRacing and finished in top 5, my best result in a longer stint race. And it was still rewarding as I finished my race. I always remember that even when I can be fast at certain points, there will always be faster guys. And as a sim racer, you pretty much race against the whole world, it's not that you are racing like in GT or F1 against the same guys so you never know how these guys will drive.
Thing is you've been playing for 7 months these ppl been playing for years you may feel like you've hit a barrier but you just gotta keep learning like you ain't gonna become god level of skill in less than a year nobody does
Like aryton senna didn't just become good
You just need to remember these games don't give you 100% feedback so you gotta use what ur given which can be annoying at times
Just find a better gaming/life balance m8 and give yourself permission to fail a few times before you're the world's greatest driver. You're going to get fast. I've had a hell of a struggle getting there. And I'm still slow as hell. But, each day I try to get better and focus on my racecraft, I get better. I may not see it in lap time right away but, if I have 3 bad days in a row you better believe the three after that I'll have learned exactly what mistake I was making, and never make it again.
I've won a handful of races in sim racing the last 15 years. I'm a mid pack racer. Fighting for 12th position is just as much fun for me as battling for 1st.
I just enjoy the racing. And now in VR it is absolutely a blast. It can become addicting. Don't let it.
This video was great, only thing i would add to it would be to not overload yourself with information on the screen, you already have enough to pay attention to without all the distractions of overlays detailing every piece of information. Sometimes its nice to turn everything off and just drive the car when learning a new track or just practicing.
I feel like a lot of people who would get into sim racing feel its too expensive or that you have to be some sort of god tier racer or whatever, all you really need to have fun is a decent wheel, some decent pedals, and a good screen... Just have fun, it's a video game, sure it's competitive but simracing ultimately exists so people can enjoy themselves doing what they love to do... go fast
it's NOT a video game! ITS A SIM! 😂
Even if the core statement in "better gear doesn't make you faster" is true, there are massive gains to be had in the lower price brackets, especially when you aren't a pro or don't have too much time. I switched from my G27 to a CSL DD and while I've had plenty of time over the years with the G27, since I've got the DD wheel with LC pedals, I've gotten less and less time to actually drive but still I'm getting faster and make way fewer mistakes because the better FFB helps me when driving on the edge and recovering corners that would have seen me spinning around with the G27.
Better gear does make a difference. Moving to a dd wheelbase from belt driven, and moving to load cell pedals from potentiometer pedals improved my driving alot. I make way less mistakes, and i can feel the car on the slip angle with the high force dd, this allows me to be on the edge of grip all the time, and still never spinning the car. This was not possible for me with my belt driven wheel. The pedals made my braking way more consistent. Better gear does not give you skill, but it does give you the opportunity to use your skills. If i was to start as a beginner again, i would buy the better gear to start, and skip the market wheels.
Mistake number 5 is for sure THE most important. Because in the end, when you will have a very good fight on the track, either if you lose or win, you'll love the battle itself when it's clean ^^
I'm sorry but I disagree with the idea that better gear doesn't make you quicker. While its true that if you just go out and buy the best of the best while never actually learning any technique you'll be just as bad, having certain parts of equipment like loadcell pedals (which you even say yourself; "Nothing will compare to the in-game performance jump you see from loadcell pedals") will always benefit you. Yes you can be as quick or quicker than someone with better gear, being comfortable using your setup and having a better feel will always eventually equate to a performance increase, and the only way to be comfortable and have a better feel is buy investing in your setup. Weather that's pedals a cockpit or a wheel base is up to you. Personally I used a g27 for years before recently buying a Fanatec DD. I replaced the original Logitech pedals early on with TLCM and both times I upgraded I managed to gain pace overall. However the largest advantage I gained was from investing in a cockpit. Only a cheapish one, a playset I got from FB Marketplace. But being in it, and having a fixed mount setup with minimal flex in addition to just being in a comfy sitting position defiantly helped my pace.
totally agree, if you are just starting out, and lets be honest, suck at the game. That won't help, but if you have trained and feel y9u ae going as fast a possible, but just can't be consistant, thats where better gear helps.
I see where both points are valid. Yes having a g29/g920 or similar is perfectly fine to start out and can even be used at the top level. However eventually upgrading will definitely gain an advantage if you have gotten the fundamental skills down. My experience of this is a more extreme case but I went from a thrustmaster T80 which had 180 degrees total steering angle, no Force feedback at all other than a rubberband to centre the wheel. If the wheel wasn't bad enough the pedals were atroucius, but I was still trying to progress through Iracing and I got up to D class with 1.6k Irating but Soon after I got a CSL DD 8Nm with the mclaren wheel and the thrustmater T-LCM pedals that have a loadcell brake and In my first lap in the mx-5 and F4's whilst figuring out my settings I beat my previous best by 2 seconds! My example as I said I pretty extreme but yes gear will definitely make a difference and the starting gear will ultimately decide how far the jump in experience and performance is.
I aint readin all that
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Ain’t no body asking yall to read it they provided info if you need it you need it if not mind ya business n stop hating
Direct drive makes you better than with a belt driven when you reach a certain experience level. You get more information and it makes you more confident and it's easier to notice wheel slip and roadresistance, which makes you faster. Not a lot in short races, but everything counts and combined with a loadcellbrake it's easily a couple of seconds each lap, which is a lot in a 20 minutes race.
Love how you just cut to the chase 🤣👍
Can’t be out here wasting peoples time 😤😤
@@OCRacing broooooooooo that was a lc500 not an lfa :(
@@OCRacingim subbing just for this right here
Just want to say I really appreciate these guides. I have not purchased any gear yet but am hoping to get into sim racing very soon. These guides will help me when I go to buy and not make “rookie” mistakes 😊
The last point is the most important one. How often i trained a car/track combination until i could not improve anymore before entering a race, just to get bumbed in the beginning of the race, until i really did not like to go racing anymore. Then i switched to fuck it. Just entered the races without a lot of training or no training at all if i already knew the car or track enough and had fun. If you get involed in an accident and cant continue, just enter the next race.
As someone who has been doing this for 6-7 years with a logitech g920 (I am finally upgrading), thousands of hours, just changing what I do like from drifting to rally to racing to just driving bonkers crazy cars with too much power for your own good I have never gotten burnt out, I am really fast and I would say that my car control is on the top 0,1% atleast. I am still very unknown person in the simracing community as I do online racing not so often and I haven't previously been active in the community even on any discord servers or anywhere. Maybe I am a bit mysterious driver out there as I do have some world records on RBR, but no one in the community even knows who I am. But now I have started getting included in the community quite a bit more as I have found that I can help newer drivers quite a lot to become better drivers and I have some knowledge on the sim racing gear even though I am only now upgrading myself. I don't know the point of this message but that's fine I guess.
These are always such high-quality videos. Thanks.
I bought the Logitech G920 wheel and pedal set. Just need to set the G920 at my desk. I am typically guilty of buying the best for day 1 simply because I always tend to go all out but it would be better to make sure that I will stick to sim racing first, then I'll invest in a better setup. Now I need to figure out which simulator to start racing in.
This is hands down the best sim racing channel out there!!
You’re too kind 🙏🙏
7:20 That's a weird looking LFA.
So from point 1 to 2… more money spent does in fact increase your performance. Got it
it does, but it also doesnt mean a good racer would perform bad with a cheaper setup
Not really, got my brother into iracing, he did it for a week on a g923, then upgraded to the logitech pro wheel and pedals and he isn't any faster at all, I still beat him easily with a g923 of my own. You can have the great equipment but if your shitty at driving, better stuff won't make you fast
I'm still getting used to the fact that Oscar is a person and not a disembodied voice LOL!!! Keep up the Amazing work Oscar!
Oh my god I have never watched a video with no intro. That was so nice I was just immediately invested and didn’t have to go through 2 minutes of crap before we actually got to the content
there is one gear upgrade that will make you significantly faster no matter what and that is going from wheel stand or desk setup to a cockpit, its a night and day difference. I could never brake super consistently with the wheel stand but with the cockpit its so much better.
I see. The issue is why does a metal frame cost hundreds of dollars?
I went from a 920, got proficient on that wheel then upgraded my set up to a Moza R9/SRP Pedals/CS2 wheel and it’s definitely a major step up over a G920 but that just added a learning curve to get better on the brakes and steering since I can feel WAY more in road and curb effects
VERY solid advice. Especially on the brake info; really hope people listen to this video :p
it's relieving hearing someone say to just enjoy it and have fun
The last one is so true, the only driving games I have is American truck simulator and Beamng, while they aren’t hardcore sims they are so enjoyable when you experience it with friends
Beamng started as, and is, a hardcore physics simulator, not mainstream but is my favorite too
I’m still using a controller and can usually get within 2seconds of the world record on most tracks, sometimes I’ve made it into the top 100, I feel the only thing holding me back now is lack of feedback at all, trail braking is difficult with zero feedback, steering feel or breaking traction is visually only and there’s no steering feedback at all and throttle input can be difficult and snappy with a controller.
I have never used a wheel but looking forward to trying one.
The most expensive thing on this hobby is time in my opinion. Thats the hardest to get personally 😅
I fell victim to a few of the point you said. If only i've seen this earlier. Like years into the pit running hardest brake resistance. Causing fatigue to my knee just simulating what the real world felt based on what i see from the internet. I believe your point will helps many out there. Good job.
Your seat is a big factor. if it is a high end cockpit or just a cheap chair it doesnt matter. What matters is to not make you feel tired.
Now for the gear, i think the best you can achive comes down to your level of understanding how everyrhing works, setups, driving techniques, braking, accelerating, turning, racing lines, weight transferring, just to name a few, and be able to progress over time. Fancy stuff looks good but dont make you fast. Practice patience and persistence will.
I have felt a lot of times "this is the maximum i can do" and when i see the overall times i am 20 seconds behind the top time (in EA Sports WRC for example). I don't think i would have done any better in expensive equipment. Big world out there and a lot of people are into sim racing so the bar is pretty high right now.
Try to enjoy as much as possible and dont feel overwhelmed.
Some quality tips here! Thanks for the great content, OC Racing!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it:)
All but 2 of my iRacing wins on oval tracks, came from a Logitech G25,
Which I had to upgrade my G25 due to Windows 11.
And I did buy a Logitech G920 and I hated the brake pedal due to that rubber plug in the spring, so I took it out and the brake still sucks.
So I sold the G25 and G920 and bought me a Moza R5 Bundle and got me a Leo Bodner adapter for my Logitech G Force shifter and I couldn't be happier,
Well I could I guess.
Great list (#1 especially...), we all make these mistakes and it's nice to be reminded of them from time to time. Well done as always Oscar!
Thank you mate, glad you enjoyed :)
Great Video! About your first mistake, it is partially true about the gear, but my point is next: You have to know how to tune/set/configure your gear. FFB, excellent example. Many ppl get clipping on their bases, and they think it is broken. But knowing how to set it right, IS crucial.
Also don't just set it up and adjust so you can reach everything and sit comfortably and forget it. Adjust the spring preload on the pedals, play with different springs and damper settings. You might have that "ah ha!!" moment where it just feels right and you actually can modulate the brakes properly and have a smoother throttle response. You can practice and get used to it sure, but you might just find a setting that works better for you right away. Especially if you are heavy footed. Also I can't stress enough, set a small deadzone so when you rest your foot on the pedal it isn't registering movement and also I recommend a small deadzone at the max point of throttle so that you get 100% input. Some pedals will register 98 or 99% when fully pressed and to get 100 you should set a small deadzone. Usually 3% or so is good in my experience so you get 100% before the max travel distance is reached and you aren't wondering why you can't keep up on straights. Likewise for the brake pedal, you may be better off adjusting the settings so that 100% brake input comes before the full pressure depending on how you have it setup with the spring preload etc. I have known people to use a very stiff spring but then they can never get enough brake input because they can't push the pedal enough and it's like pressing on a brick wall thus they can't modulate properly. Using the software to see the input based on your pedal pressure can help you visualize what is happening and you can adjust the pedal stiffer or lighter depending on your needs. Too light and it will be like a light switch and very twitchy, too stiff and it will be difficult to modulate and be precise.
Great video and good information for this new racing sim rookie in my sixties and have wanted to do this for a decade but life often got in the way, but now I have more time for me. 😄
iRacing and Assetto Corsa for the mods are my go to. iRacing for the competitive side of things and AC with mods for the career mods and other cars I can just use to race AI or other people in online lobbies without worrying too much.
about mistake 2: remember to have somekoind of proper platform for those pedals so you can actually use them
Thanks for this. I've got the entry level Logitech g29 set with the shifter and the Challenger x cockpit. I'm just starting out but i was feeling like I'm missing out by not getting a more expensive wheel .. Point 1 and point 5 are the best tips that I really needed to hear. Subscribed!
Glad to hear that some of the top people are still using basic gear. I have a bad habit of overbuying when I get into a new hobby, but I don't want to waste a bunch of money on something I don't know that I will stick with for awhile. Sounds like a G29 will be just the ticket to get going.
gotta disagree with the first point.. i have a thrustmaster t80 and i definitely think buying a wheel with force feedback will make me a better driver immediately
Stroll catching a stray lmao. This is why im subbed.
This video is the reason I upgraded my g920 pedals to the logi Pro pedals and I want to say thank you, I already enjoy sim racing again for now. Just did a 10 lap stock pedals to 10 laps with the pro pedals and shaved .3 with more consistency
Is the .4 second improvement worth the cost of upgraded equipment?
@@Vinsanity-ud3wj for me it’s not about the lap times I throughly enjoy the experience more, I can drive hard in traffic, and lap times are more consistent to the point I’m enjoying it and willing to race anything at any moment. I need about 10 minutes or less of practice and I’m ready to be top %50
A fun thing you might run into if you just straight to high end gear after having tried what is effectively a glorified joystick (a.k.a. a wheel with basically no feedback or very little) is that you'll most likely be slower for a while compared to your old setup.
And this just frustrates people lol
As someone who is currently using a Logitech if your going to buy it new and not used for less then 100 I’d recommend just getting an entry level direct drive the Logitech is okay but you’ll be heavily lacking in the pedal department and the size of the wheel makes it feel like a toy it’s still very fun to use but I’ve seen a heavy drop in my lap times and all I can boil it down to is the pedals luckily just ordered a set of sim jack ut pedals off Amazon after seeing how much better they seem then even the low end moza or fanatec products
Right off the bat #1 hits home. I have spent a bit on my rig and I know that I'm getting passed by 12 year olds playing with an old Xbox 360 wheel mounted to an ironing board looking at portable Blu-ray player screen 10 feet away and using junk pedals. BUT it's still hella fun!!
The last point is honetly one of the most important. Spending all the money to get into this amazing hobby but then getting burnt out will leave you questioning if it was a good idea to spend so much on something you no longer do or enjoy as much as before. It is important to have fun first or else the burn out is inevitable and will make you feel regret!
My first upgrade needs to be a wheel stand or cockpit, since I race in a computer chair on carpet. Even with just my stock G923 pedals they move around a bit too much, when using the carpet bar too..
Great video. Thanks!
Let’s just say I did all of these.. Good vid oc!
i think Cheaper high end gear like moza r3 bundle or fanatec csl dd will make it A lot easier if you have a g29 or some like that
I personally believe that you can develop your skills faster on a higher end sim rig, the end result might be the same but on one sim it might take a month and on an other 5 months😅. It last that was my experience with a ps 4 controller vs a Logitech g29
The g29 is low end tho
i love how this man says hop in vr having a relaxing drive meanwhile im over here in iracing vr with a bpm of through the roof lol
I am super new @ simracing and was doing like my 4th mx5 cup race this morning on my oculus.
I was in the sickest battle for 2nd for like 8 laps and I felt relaxed and locked in.
But I realized that my heart was pounding when the race ended.
So serious.
It's been a dream forever.
Spent all last weekend building a sim rig for my Moza bundle and loadcell mod pedals.
@@ASMCourtney I race on a desk with the Logitech g920 still stock and Rift S and did an arca Menards race yesterday me and 4th place were .001 seconds apart I almost took position in the last corner i was shaking afterwards but man was it the most incredible thing and also the entire race i was just right behind his bumper best race I've ever had and Moza is what I want to move to after I get all my fundamentals down
If it was true that high end parts wouldn't make you faster then all epsorters/youtubers would be sitting with g29s 😂 high end loadcell pedals are known to make you brake better and therefore makes you faster. High end DD base will give you better precision so you can save those 0.1 seconds but the fundamental of this is that you need the skills to extract the benefits of high end parts.
He literally named ppl that are pro's using g29's.
Dont cope that much
What are you on, after covid you all become pros 😂😂😂. Or I should say no clue in anything
For anyone that has Logitech pedals and hates the stiff brake pedal bind the brake to the clutch pedal and use the paddles if you like to shift manually and never you’ll never have to use that trash brake again
Better gear can make you more consistent which can make it easier to improve. However if you aren’t actively looking to improve then it will reinforce bad habits. Buy the best gear you can afford that makes sense and learn from everyone
Excellent breakdown.You made very good points.Keep the videos coming out
Just bought myself a g923 and man do I suck. I have worse performance than I had on the controller. But man is it fun. I only do 1 proper race per day because it's genuinely tiring. For the rest, I just drive different cars on different tracks. Soon I will try manual shifting with the pedals, then move on to the h-gate shifter.
No, what I was thinking was that higher end gear won't make me buy twice and that's exactly how it turned out. Btw. I also disagree with your statement that higher end gear wont make you faster. While it's true that there are some really fast guys on Logitech G29's out there, everyone would benefit from higher end gear within the realm of their own potential,...even the fast guy on the G29. If nothing else, it will make you more consistent and that's key. Yeah sure, at some point, spending even more money won't give you any benefit at all but there is a threshold where it absolutely makes sense to invest in the hobby if you're serious about it. Solid rig, load cell pedals and bucket(!) seat. 10Nm+ Wheelbase, in exactly that order.
I just disagree with the first point. the reason why NASCAR esport drivers can use Logitech wheels and be good is because you're driving in a circle and don't need 80 million newto metres of force
might as well use keyboard lmao
@@S70V12not really
I just bought G29 without a shifter and a half cockpit. I don't know how to drive yet. I was even slower than with a controller. It is really difficult
definetely does make you faster though, used a g920 and then upgraded to moza r9 with ks wheel and have gotten faster by almost 3-4 seconds on each track
It helps if you have low end gear. but upgrading from anything higher than that wont help your skill
Given the fact that most real life cars are boring, I'm looking to get into sim racing just to be able to enjoy driving again. I had an 1986 Honda Civic CRX Si in the 1990s that was an absolute joy to drive. I would love to be able to find a game that had that model so I could relive my youth again. :D
Personally the upgrade to load cell pedals made no difference to me, it is definitely possible to be accurate and consistent with cheap pedals. what helped me is using pedal overlays to build the muscle memory. Haven’t upgraded to direct drive yet but I’m interested to see if that makes a bigger difference which my logic makes me suspect that it will.
#2 should be : upgrade RIG before pedals. i upgrade pedals first but nowhere to mounth these without moving makes me using CLUTCH pedals as a brake ,until i get wheelstand even. so get wheelstand/rig before pedal upgrade. or if u know u can mount pedals somewhere it dosnt move.
in response to the first one, what about the fact that my Thrustmaster TMX doesn't have enough keyinds to adjust anything on the car? I can't even have a button for windshield wipers in ACC
I disagree with the first point . The pros who use the t150 (which I have ) most likely upgrade their pedals hence (spending more for better gear) as the the default pedals are just ass , and I’m sure they aren’t using the plastic weightless pedals in those championships. And also oval racing doesn’t need that much . When u talk about doing laps on Nurburgring on acc that’s when u notice that cheap gear sucks as I have that problem where I constantly either brake too much or too little as the base t150 pedals are atrocious hence the option to upgrade to the t3pm I think they are called (correct me as I know I’m wrong) which still leads into better gear making y faster from being more consistent as a result of the better gear
T150 is awful. I had one. You can't even compare it to direct drive. It's more like a toy. You need to experience direct drive, and you will never go back.
Just bought Moza R9 base and steering wheel and pedals unused from an R5 bundle.
Thinking of getting a load cell eventually, but should probably buy a rig before that? I guess it's not so wise to have the load cell loose on the floor... 🤔
Load cell on the floor = Load cell pushed one way, you pushed the other and no braking happening that day.
If the budget is tight, just build your own rig. Get some wood, slap it together and buy a seat on a scrap yard. It's a hella lot cheaper than even the cheapest rigs out there. And UA-cam has a ton of vids on how to make one on the cheap. I built mine for less than $50
Man sim racing community seems so negative. These videos are awesome. Great production quality. Can tell you put the work in. Good job!! Keep em coming😊
i just wish i had a (better) more quite wheel base, the g29 is literally known for being loud and it ruins the experience for me :(
i have 5 sim racing games installed on my drive but waiting for my G29 kit to arrive before i even begin. I am into VR and started pretty much the same way, start with the least expensive Quest 2 and see if it's for me. then once i am experienced i can upgrade and know what my needs and wants will be at that level. if i bought the best now i would only be guessing that i picked the right brand and model without actual knowledge from experience.
I was gonna get better pedals but then my left paddle shifter on my ES wheel broke so. I have the SR-P hybrid load cell so it’s not like I had the lites, but still.
Starting with a t150 8 yesrs ago, then a t300 and then this year GT DD Pro 8nm, Mclaren GT3 v2 rim and Elite v2 pedals. Loadcell brake was a game changer as was losing that horrible dead zone. Finally ditched PS5 for PC a couple of months ago and triple 32in 1440p monitors will have my rig complete, i think lol. It never ends
even using a controller, you can beat a steering wheel user with lack of racing games experience
I am about to get my first dd setup. Does the moza r9 and is wheel along with the simagic p1000 pedals sound good?
I agree with the gear sentiment. I bought a $1300 Fanatec- honestly I am no better than with the $550 Thrustmaster... In fact I was fastest with a PS5 controller in GT7.... So ....
NGL the NASCAR comment has me dying 😂 you turn left. Yes there's lots of adjustments and some left foot braking, but the steering hub is not as necessary as rally, gt spec, or drifting. Especially rally and drifting.
I would also add to do i lot of research before you buy anything, i.e watching reviews and if ur lucky enough try some gear in stores, events or friends house. For myself the biggest jump in my lap time but mostly my consistency was a chassis and pedals upgrade. Yes I agree that if you whale from the start with all the best gear it will not make you better but if you are sure that you will stick with the hobby, investing a little more will save you some money in the long run. I started a year ago and didnt know where I should put my money. I bought a wheel stand that I could hook my desk chair into. that was bad . your better off with a cheap dedicated chassis.
I’m racing using a phone connected to my computer as a steering wheel… I think better gear will help XD
I need some advice. I’m not a big fan of driving games but I’ve always been intrigued with getting a rig set up. I don’t hate driving games. Just find them boring on controller. Should I try my luck and get a rig?
Sure. I love driving. Been driving 20 years. Never tracked it or sped. It costs money. My friend got me into track racing 8 years ago and it is fun. The REAL fun for me is Rally Racing (wrc), that will show you how well you can understand a car and weight transfer really fast. And being able to nail a turn that had been ending your life is way better than hitting an apex and shaving .3 seconds off your race lap.
I not sure I can only upgrade my pedals with a logitech G29...no compatibility found
Maybe I have to upgrade wheel base first
What do you think?
Hey, I recently saw the PXN v99 came out and I was wondering if you thought it was a good deal and you would make a video on it
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My take is that you really don't need to be ultra competitive in the first place. Realise that racing skills, like all other skills are distributed on a Bell curve. You probably are mid and that's perfectly fine. You can get better with practice but don't expect miracles. If you don't enjoy the intrinsic act of driving then don't expect major returns from better gear. In fact the diminishing returns of really high end gear are really small. Worth it for a very niche crowd maybe but you can get 95% of the experience with entry level gear.
People get really anal about this stuff and hyper gate keeper-y about what gear is supposed to be more realistic. But in the end all that matters is that you are enjoying yourself. If you are using a xbox controller and you are having a great time then that's 100% valid. The gear is totally optional and really only degenerate halfwits like myself spend serious cash on it.
But if you happen to be in that miniscule group of highly skilled drivers who race for the big bucks then I guess every slight advantage gear can give you might be truly worth it. It becomes part of a meta game at this level. And even in this tier better does not necessarily mean more expensive.
If the stuff you use works for you then that's all that matters. If you want to buy new stuff just try and go for gear that has a good reputation within your budget but don't feel the need to stretch it beyond your means. Don't buy shit like this on credit. It's a money sink that can get out of hand really fast. The second hand market is a testament to the broken dreams of many aspiring sim racers. It's also a good option to hunt for bargains.
I disagree with the idea that expensive sim gear doesn't make you a better driver it 100% does. I Sim race for fun and I've been doing it for about 4 months with a Logitech a desk and a Xbox one. My fastest time I was able to get around the nurburgring was a 7.30 but when I went to the real nurburgring ring and tried a simulator I did 7.00 and I was holding the car back so much 😂 that setup bought me 30s
setting up my vr headset got me so motion sick i don't even wanna touch my sim anymore, i just need to sell it
how much, for your gear I mean. and what gear do you have?
Yeah, driving games are the worst for vr motion sickness. But I wouldn't get rid of the vr headset, there are some awesome vr games out there
@@adamm2716 fair, I would give it another go. do a game like beamng or forza horizon and just cruise to get used to it. going full blown right out of the gate isn't to good
Stop. take a week or two to get used to it. try watching youtube in VR at first. its a bit like getting used to being on a boat.
Simrig in VR is something i could never go back to even the best triple monitor setup.
@Mystic_Chizu I love vr, but I think without a larger FOV, a triple monitor setup would still be better, no? Not mentioning the steep motion sickness "learning curve." I do wonder if a motion rig would help with the motion sickness, idk, make more sense to the brain.
"A cheap wheel is enough" also "put sim hub on a fourth monitor on top of the triple stack" 🤣
jeez im here already 😂
I expect nothing less 😤
Wait. Ive been under a rock..when did bro do a face reveal?!
I’ve got a wheel stand, and I want some new pedals, currently I have the MOZA SR-P lite, I don’t know what to get, I don’t have thousands of dollars to spend on pedals, what should I get?
MOZA CR-P pedals [get the clutch]
You must not like him much or you haven't tried better pedals for the price. Will Ford literally calls this the worst pedal choice..."CRP" missing an A.😂@@Hdawg187-ln4ww
Which one G923 Logitech or T300 Thrustmaster which one should i buy???
Which steering will work with Mac.I am thinking moza r5,fanatec csl dd
Better gear helps alot with enjoyment as well. I think it is best to skip to DD and good pedals and cockpit if you are even half serious about this. Dont waste time with G29 and playing on a desk...
This is my my first time seeing your face or what???! 🎉🎉🎉
Best lesson I can give is if you can not win a race against ai unless you crash them.... DO not race on line
Is there a small monitor i can get for simhub/ data one that works with pc and console
I think the #1 mistake isnt having a SimShield to protect the wheel of choice.
How did you miss that? Lol 15 lashings
7:19 that's a LC500 not a LFA
would a csl dd fanatec bundle be a good starter (around 800 AUD)
Yes 👍
Better equipment will 100% make you a better racer.
In the next video, wear a racing suit.
I think I’d pass out from the heat 🤣