Epson EcoTank VS Cartridge Printers: Do You Really Save Money? What's the best printer for the $?
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2021
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I bought an Epson Stylus in 2007 and it’s still going to this day.
I’m locked for life.
😁
Excellent video, informative, funny, honest and not some ai generated waste of time. Thank you for your effort, great job! 😊
nice breakdown for both money and ink. thank you
Your welcome!
I actually enjoy the video and finally an irl use of the graph I learned in school
Thanks for the video. Really admire your dedication in home schooling.
I print a lot for my business. I am a secretary for agility trials and for each trial I print about 2 reams of paper and, with my Canon printer, I would use 3 ink tanks (2 black tanks and 1 color tank at a cost of about $80) per trial. Since I bought my Epson Ecotank I’ve done the printing for 3 trials. I am not even half empty on the black tank and the color tanks have barely been used. I’m in heaven! This is going to be a major cost savings for my business. At least until they raise the price of the bottles of ink, which is already happening. But I think it will still be cheaper than the ink for my Canon or the toner cartridges for my Brother laser printer.
For your use case you should have probably rented a professional printer instead of abusing a home model. They are a thing
However, I have a friend that spoke to one of the guys running that business and he said when people find out about the Epsons they'll go out of business
The cost per page is nothing
@@AJ-wf1vh why would I rent a printer when I only do 6 to 7 trials a year? That’s hardly “abuse”. But you wouldn’t know that since you are unfamiliar with my business.
@@AJ-wf1vh For my business we bought 3 eco tanks, one has over 100k prints on it, the other has over 50k prints on it, and the third is a label/heavy duty paper at like 15k prints all running strong and ink costs are basically 0. It blows every printer out of the water cost wise and makes laser look like a rip off. Renting printers is even stupider. You pay a significant amount monthly and have to wait for them for every little thing.
@@hajjdawood yea the writing is on the wall for the rent a printer guys
Lol “I have trouble throwing things away” literally same lol. I just bought a new printer and have kept my broken one stored away just in case i can fix it lol
very good analysis!
What about that ink sponge thing that fills up on those amd bricks the printer
We don't talk about that.
With Epson, you will have to install a hacked app and pay $10 to reset it, with Canon I have no idea. but with brother, you can do it for free without any app.
I have had a mix of Canon and Epson printers. The first very expensive Canon ate print heads, and after little more than a year it was cheaper to buy a new printer than replace the print head. My basic Canon Laser was good until they decided not to update the software beyond Windows XP. My last Canon inkjet printed blank pages at random, and despite several software updates ended up leaking ink. My basic EcoTank has been brilliant. It just works and sips ink.
I just purchased the lowest level EcoTank for $200 because my Brother J425 just died. We had that great printer for 11 years and only used cheap ink. It was with great sadness that we sent it to it's great reward. I don't need duplex and fax, etc.. So the $200 EcoTank will be just fine. If it holds up it will be today's best deal for ink (as I see it). Since Epson genuine ink is so reasonably priced, I'll stay with it.
Just found the 2850 for 200, really wanted 2sided printing but 300 was above my budget. Would have loved the print tray and auto feeder of the 3850 like an old lexmark had, but definitely not paying 380.
Looked alot at new canons, but they've changed the cartridges so its much harder to find reliable sources for cheap off brand ink.
How is the print quality of your EcoTank vs your Brother J425?
Your parents named your brother J425? Must be hippies.
Thank you for this video. I just purchased one and I’m a little disappointed. I am not sure what’s going on but printing is not good. I checked the heads and nozzles but it prints blurry :(. Do you have a tip on what to do or did I get a faulty printer?
I recently purchased a new Epson Eco Tank 3850 printer at Costco for $325.00. The setup was relatively easy and I had it up and running in about 15 minutes after unboxing. However, I am extremely disappointed in the quality of the printing for both documents and photos.The edging in the photos were grainy and the colors were darker then the original photo. Even after checking the color management settings it still produced a low quality image. The scanner is cheap inefficient. After scanning a simple document I discovered the text had jagged edges and the tops of the fonts were chopped off in several paragraphs. The only way I could get nice clean sharp font was to scan in Photo Mode. The top automatic feeder used to scan multiple documents or make copies, pulls The entire stack of papers into the feeder all at once causing the unit to jam. The only way to prevent this is to physically stagger each page individually. All in all this printer is of poor quality and cheaply made. I'm packaging it back up and taking it back to Costco first thing tomorrow.
Just got an epson et 2850 on sale from Costco for 200 (normally 280), even came with an extra black bottle) , after debating for a long time what to replace our canon pixma with after it got an unresolvabe printer jam error.
Black pages printed means to print a page fully filled with black? Or does it mean a regular text page with black text? Because that sounds like very different times to get to saving money depending on what it is
I'm on my third Epson Workforce WF-7840 over a ten year period. The others just stopped printing.
The only good news is if I buy the same printer all the time I don't need much training to operate the machine. :)
So, what inspired Epson to make a printer that wasn't a scam, when they had been for so long? And are the other printer companies going to do likewise to compete or pay Epson to stop?
I have a ET-7750 and I have had an X-Rite’s i1 Software professionally made profile for my 24" Ilford Galarie glossy paper. The results are excellent and the B+Ws are neutral. Even using cheaper glossy paper the results are really very good. I use it for A3 plain paper drawings, 600mm x 297mm panorama prints, A4 etc... I'm very pleased with it. (I do though, regularly dab the print head resting pad with soft tissue paper to prevent smudges.) I keep it completely covered all the time with a thin clear polythene sheet including the rear paper tray with A3 paper in, this keeps the dust out. I've had it about 5+ years and it's still producing excellent result, I use it a lot and I'm on only my second set of ink bottles and third service tank. I can't recommend this printer highly enough. It's well worth getting your printer profiled as it really does make so much difference.
I've been looking at the current ET-8550 model, I was interested in hearing that your previous equivalent model still works after that long and that many pages printed. Low running costs don't help if an expensive printer like that breaks after 5000 pages after all! It would need to last me about 10 000 pages for me to break even compared to keeping using my current b&w laser printer, but it does also do color and A3 prints which would be great. I'm nearing the end of drum life on my current laser printer already so another 10k pages will happen in about 4 years.
Have seen videos on UA-cam that claim that EcoTank printers can clog up with low print volumes. Even worse, there is a sponge in the back of the printer. Once it is full you can throw the printer away. This was for me the reason to stick with a cartridge printer.
Any inkjet printer can clog up with low print volumes. by simply printing a nozzle check page once a week (for any week you don't use the printer) will elliminate this issue. I don't know what 'sponge' you're refering too but the printer does have a maintance tank that collects any ink used for cleaning the head, it is user replacable, and costs about $20 and it lasts a very long time.
@@marksmith2913 See
1) Are ink tank printers a scam? Are they designed to fail? (EcoTank, MegaTank, SmartTank, SuperTank) at ua-cam.com/video/Bt6KkFCw3eY/v-deo.html
2) Don't Buy the Epson EcoTank - 3 Year Review at ua-cam.com/video/AA3wOmujZHA/v-deo.html
This seems like a great idea. My friend just got one of these and I am looking into them. Thanks for all the info. My biggest concern is that it seems like my printers just break every six months, much like you. They stop grabbing the paper, they stop properly communicating with the computer, ect... I can handle buying a $60 printer every six months. But if THIS thing breaks there's no way I can fork out another $400 dollars. I guess my question would be is, how resilient is it? I'd definitely like to see an update on it in a year or so.
I don’t know that I’ll get around to making a follow up video….If I’d did however, it would say it is still working great and I’m on the original bottles of ink still. I did upgrade my wireless network to a router that have 5 ghz and 2.5 ghz, found out the printer would only communicate with the 2.5 ghz bandwidth, that took a minute to figure out, but otherwise still working fine.
@@JohnStanton Thanks very much for the info. It is much appreciated. Great to know! :)
Have used a Brother MFC-J825DW for over 10 years without a single failure, no head cleaning or any other issue. A full set of cartridges costs about $25 (16 USD) in New Zealand.
Be aware that EcoTank printers can clog up with low print volumes. Even worse, there is a sponge in the back of the printer. Once it is full you can throw the printer away.
I have an Epson XP 6100 and its been an exceptional printer, however, every time I run out of ink of one color I have to change/purchase a whole new set even though I still have quite a bit of ink left of the other colors. I can install just the color that I'm out of and suddenly, I need to replace another color & so on, until all the colors have been replaced. Also, the printer refuses to print until I replace them. This is very fwustratin'!
The video fails to mention that you won't just be buying one inket cartridge. You will be buying the color and black. And the original that comes with the printer is usually the "starter" pack it finishes really quickly.
So you will get to that $400 mark in the matter of two refil if you get the high yield cartridges which are the ones that get you 400-500 pages. The standard ink cartridges only gets you 150 to 250 pages.
So this is a no brainer unless you only print once a year.
Printers have been a joke to purchase ever since they switched to "initialization" cartridges that literally print 3 pages.
is the eco tank printer an archival art printer ink?
Here’s my burning question I am looking to print A 400 page booklet printed double-sided on 8 1/2 x 11 paper in color that’s probably Be the equivalency of 800 pages as it’s double sided do you think I would be able to have enough ink to print that would be cost-effective or should I just go to a printing press currently looking to buy a printer as I don’t have one. thank you for your help.
If you weren’t looking to buy a printer I’d say go to staples, but if you’re interested buying a printer, buy the printer. You will have enough ink.
How's the printer holding up after 2 years? Any issues with planned obsolescence?
Still works just fine
I bought an Epson ET2650 (an early Ecotank) almost 4 years ago.
I printed a lot of colour photos at one stage, and have used it regularly since. I refilled the black ink as it was just below 50%, but the colours are all still above 80%. The extra cost for the Ecotank was about the same as the set of inks for an equivalent standard inkjet, and I would have used 2 or 3 sets by now. Quality is still fine. For me it has been a no-brainer.
Now I'm one that doesn't print all day everyday will the ink dry out? Also its been 2yrs how many ink bottles have you bought?
0. Still on the original bottles.
Forget HP. They call it "dynamic security" to "ensure the quality of the user's printing experience" where you can only use genuine HP ink cartridges.
This assumes the ink sponges in the back don't get full and render the tank printer unusable.
They are usually replaceable
Yeah, just replace it and reset, really cheap.
Dunno if its "fixed" yet, but there exist a hack program for it now 10 bucks to get the reg key.
And clogs all the time😊
Any update? I see a lot of people very upset about megatank, large tank printers having preset bricking issues with the ink absorber. So this issues bricks your printer well before the tanks are empty. So totally tosses out your chart
@crankshaft007 All I can say is my printer is still going strong, I made a follow up video a few weeks ago confirming. I had never heard of the bricking issue when I bought it so I can't comment on that.
Great video. But make sound volume higher next time.
I love my Canon 6020 printer. I gave it to my wife who has a Xerox laser on her HP Windows 11, which is a pain to control. I bought an Epson 4800 printer for me and it cranks out prints like champ. I will buy an Epson 8550 to print large photos after using my 4800. Back in my IBM PC days Epson was always the choice. My Macs love Epson too. I taught computer tech in high school from day 1 and I had to master both platforms. Good advice John.
Butt-Ton of Ink. 😂
This was so helpful. Thank you!
good video but the volume is very low compared to other videos.
There's a 2sided wireless ecotank epson printer on Amazon for $265 as of the time of this comment. So assuming you print 2500 pages, you'd save more money going with that. I have no idea how well it does with cleaning the print heads. I imagine those would be a problem as the ink dries eventually.
Just got the epson et 2850 from Costco for 200 on sale, so excited for it. Hope it holds up. Have read that its important to print at least once a week so need to put a reminder on my phone, or figure out how to make my computer do that automatically. It really needs a way to do set that up natively to print a color test weekly.
Went without a printer for a year after canon pixma broke since just didn't know what to get, and its impossible to find off brand ink cartridges from trusted sources for many of the newer models from canon. Original plan was to get a new one that used the prior cartridges since had some left, but no luck.
@@MM-fe9mz Like you said, that surprises me that Epson did not setup some auto-maintenance feature that runs weekly or keeps track of how long it has been since the last print to trigger when it has been idle for so many days. I am considering an ecotank for myself and my father who prints a lot for his business. He probably wouldn't have trouble keeping the printer active with how much he prints, but if there is any downtime, there is no way he would ever remember to print a test page/etc. Though, I found this that might be easier. Maybe it'll help you:
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@@anthonycomeaux1804 I and my business have multiple eco tanks and have very heavily abused all of them. I also have one for my house that I use occasionally. It does have some auto maintenance and the instructions specifically say always leave it plugged it and turned on to keep the printer clean and ready to go. That being said if you rarely print like my home one sometimes you may have to clean the heads, especially if you are doing a sensitive print like photos.
I've solved the Costco struggle. Nearest Costco is about 250 miles 😋
Hi, I'm at 100% volume and I can barely hear you. I would recommend boosting it
I bought a Canon laser printer. For less than to Epson ink. Yes mfp. Never have to clean the print heads and perfect print every time I fire it up. After 30 some years of ink I would never go back to ink. Ink print heads cost too much when they dry out. Desert life.
is it a color laser? or black and white?
Best bet color laser for docs!!!
For docs Laser is the best option
I was in a Costco the other day. In the ink dept there were rows of HP cartridges. I counted 11 different types that probably fit ten different HP models each. In the Epson section there was just one display of Epson EcoTank ink bottles, around $75. Those worked in all Epson printers.
There's nothing inherently wrong with the ink cartridge system but the problem is how they go about it. They could've designed two or three sets of well filled cartridges that would work in all HP printers for a reasonable price. And what's this crap about the entire printer bricking just because it ran out of yellow ink?? That's manufactured stupidity and arrogance.
I loved my eco tank until the waste tank at the back filled up and it wouldn't let me rent any more, thankfully I could still return it to the store because I hadn't had it longer than their return policy, bought a cheaper model of the eco tank and didn't have the same problem, but eventually it started to have problems and wouldn't print right. I print color cookbooks with it mostly, so now I am back to shopping for a printer, hoping they have fixed the problem with the waste tank sponge thing. If anyone knows please let me know.
Kinda worried about this, just got a 2850 for 200, not sure if it has a replaceable sponge yet, some of the models do.
Buy the higher end eco tanks they sell the maintenance kits (what they call the waste storage things) for like $10-20. With mine I've replaced them like 2-3 times over the course of close to 100k prints
If it is any of the newer EcoTank models, you can actually replace the waste ink pad, but you might need to use a 3rd party reset tool. For the ET-1810 the replacing cost me around 13EUR compared to around 70-80EUR for the ink used, which is still OK for operational cost..
Yep.....sent this STRAIGHT to my husband 😂
LoL the Costco struggle IS real! 🤣
Inlet printers are still the same as 30 years ago because they make so much money for the big 3. Someone needs to make a good photo laser for home use.
400 pages on my inkjet would be amazing, I would 100 if that.
Worst investment I made was buying an Epson EcoTank. Partly this was my own fault for not printing regularly enough, I sometimes went a month without using it, but when I did use it, I often needed to print off quite a few pages (often pdf documents etc.). Trouble was the heads would just about always be clogged due to the lack of use, then I'd run a few cleaning cycles to try and clean them...I used half the ink for only a couple hundred pages printed. It got to the stage I just couldn't get the heads completely clean, so had to put up with strips missing.
What I should've done (and have since) is buy a cheap laser printer and kept my previous printer for it's flatbed scanner. I didn't know enough about laser printers when I bought the ecotank, but they are cheaper to run as they don't waste their toner in cleaning cycles, as they don't have heads to block from irregular use. I bought a "Brother HLL3230cdw" color laser printer for half of what I paid for my ecotank, it doesn't have a scanner, but it does print both sides. Toner cartridges cost a bit for the genuine part, but there are cheaper alternatives, which makes the cost per page cheaper than an ecotank. Only drawback I can see is in printing photos, but I don't print many and it's actually cheaper to do this in a store.
It would by good if you could hear some sound, I have check my laptop over and over, no fault there.😂
For people who do not print a lot the eco tank makes no sense. You'll pay considerably more for the printer and odds are it will die in 5 to 7 years or plug up so badly you'll trash it. I just ordered a brother with the inkvestment tanks. Much cheaper than the Epson ecotank.
I have an Epson 2200 and the replacement ink price just floored me. Manufacturers of ink cartridges must be checking the bulges in their pants. I hope that ink bottles will stay at a reasonable price for a time
Don't want to whine here but... unless my math is wrong, that is about 10 pages a day you've printed to reach 3600 pages. Now if you discount the fact very few people ever print that much per day, it means you won't reach that 3600 for a LONG time. I'm not totally convinced that, in the very long run, one will really save you money compare to the other unless you are a BIG printer, like on a daily basis then I would surely think the Eco would win.
extremely quiet, it's not often my laptop has to be on max to be audible
I laughed and laughed!!!
Warning ⚠️ You Need To KNOW ⛔️ Read some of these comments below But, ⛔️ Remember, The extra $400 i paid for the same printer would have bought at least 10 new pairs of Color and Black ink without the Clogging heads of the tank style printers.
I simply don't understand why anyone would buy an inkjet. If you need photos, send them to a lab. If you need to print documents, get a laser. Laser wins every contest except photos.
Ciri transitioned over those 6 months
The sound is way too low
canon cameras and canon printers are a day and night comparison.
low volume
You're wrong at 5:40. People SHOULD be told what printer to buy! Even if you threw away the Epson everytime it needed ink you'd still be ahead! 😂 I've been using my Epson ET for 5 years and I'm just now running low on ink.
Warning ⛔️ Tank Ink Printers clog up for the typical family and end up using more ink. ⚠️ The extra $400 alone would buy you 10 sets of black and white cartridges ⚠️ 😂
@@johnhubble5373
I was in a Costco the other day. In the ink dept there were rows of HP cartridges. I counted 11 different types that probably fit ten different HP models each. In the Epson section there was just one display of Epson EcoTank ink bottles, around $75. Those worked in all Epson printers. Only once did I have a clogged head on my Epson ET, I had to run 3 head cleanings and it's been fine since.
There's nothing inherently wrong with the ink cartridge system but the problem is how they go about it. They could've designed two or three sets of well filled cartridges that would work in all HP printers for a reasonable price. And what's this crap about the entire printer bricking just because it ran out of yellow ink?? That's manufactured stupidity and arrogance.
I don't quite understand your comment. Even if it used 5x more ink it's still cheaper to by the Epson ink at about $75 for 12oz.
Your volume is too low
Ditch those damn ink-jet printers, and get yourself a color laser printer when you see it on sale. You'll never look back.
And beware the ink-jet printer insisting that its internal waste ink sponge is full, from nozzle cleans.
That 7500 pages is a scam , the print head always have problems and you always need to clean it , expect 5000 pages with 90% of them having stripes
Ive " fixed " quite a few older printers lately and a major culprit is the lack of WPA2 wifi support.
Modern routers require WPA2 for wifi security, but older printers dont get firmware updated to support it also.
You have to allow your router to work with WPA devices to get them connecting again.
I just buy printers with Ethernet instead. No hassles that way. Plug and play most days.
Buying the Epson Eco Tank was the worst mistake... I paid a lot of money thinking it was going to save money on ink, but after one year it stop working, nobody said anything about the ink that is wasted every time you use it, and is collected in a ink pad that has to be replaced and after you replace it you have to download a third party app and pay to get a code to reset your printer. this video was a six months review you can not give a honest review until you printer stops working because your ink pad is full. I still have ink in the Eco Tank but the printer is programed to stop and you have to pay to reset it. never again will i buy another Epson Eco Tank...
Warning❤Tank Ink uses WAAAAAAAY more ink and clogs up and you need to spend money on a code to reset the printer. ⚠️
😊. ⛔️ DO NOT BUY A TANK PRINTER ⚠️
my epson cotank did not last, missing colors and sputters, new head, then failed ink pump 😂! then after repair, the power supply burnt....fuck elson, never again
This product sucks, I beg you to find something else, copy by hand if you have too
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