Drawn and Quarter-Zipped: The Death of Sports Fashion, with Wesley Morris | PTFO

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  • Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
  • The four NBA coaches who made the Conference Finals this season all have something in common: a pullover. Because unlike Pat Riley in Armani, or even Larry Brown in overalls (yes, overalls), modern basketball authority rejects individual style in favor of sideline uniformity. So we summon New York Times critic-at-large Wesley Morris (and his two Pulitzer Prizes) to help us explain how we got here. What we’ve really lost, amid this pandemic of athleisure. And why women’s college basketball has the heroes we desperately need. Also: mutating into a muppet; Don Zimmer vs. Pedro Martinez; Hubie Brown as Philippe Petit; and the most delicious glass bowl of chocolate pudding you could ever hope to taste.
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  • @yonh5350
    @yonh5350 Місяць тому +5

    Simmons is somewhere mad as hell he didn't think of running this segment with Wesley. good fun convo

  • @fexcab
    @fexcab Місяць тому +25

    Wesley Morris is a national treasure🫡😎💪🏼

  • @slurpmeslower6516
    @slurpmeslower6516 Місяць тому +45

    Is he wearing a burger king shirt?

    • @thehoboman
      @thehoboman Місяць тому +3

      he's heading to his shift after the show

    • @RextheDragon881
      @RextheDragon881 Місяць тому +2

      Whopper whopper whopper

    • @ft90702
      @ft90702 Місяць тому +3

      The balls it takes to criticize someone's fashion choices dressed like a whopper.

  • @seangallagher9751
    @seangallagher9751 Місяць тому +3

    This is the most important issue facing our country and both political parties are silent!!

  • @markmittens
    @markmittens Місяць тому +3

    the genius in this is that they breakdown and explain that "comfort" is a mental game, as are all things in sports and the world. the baseball players in the 80s wore tight clothes and were "comfortable" , I mean you can't really dispute what they are saying.Would that have happened to Don Zimmer if he was dressed in a fedora and suit, I think we all know the answer.

  • @markandre-ll
    @markandre-ll Місяць тому +6

    I liked the more relaxed look by the coaches

    • @qaspersalt
      @qaspersalt Місяць тому +1

      And I don't watch NBA games to see a runway fashion show of head coaches. Plus, I recall the NBA in the 90s when the Iron Fist of David Stern didn't like injured players sitting on the bench in street wear (probably because our boy Davy thought they looked like "thugs") so he implemented a dress code requiring players to wear boring gray suits like all the coaches. Now we have players essentially cat-walking into arenas with their freshest, stylist-selected drip and Wesley doesn't like that either because he thinks NBA players let their girlfriends or wives dress them (as he wears a rugby shirt Charlie Brown or Fat Albert would have second thoughts about rocking). Huh?!?

    • @marcusdunton1692
      @marcusdunton1692 Місяць тому

      ​@@qaspersalt sometimes I wonder, even if someone is trying to be as clear as possible, why people refuse to grasp/comprehend certain things. First Pablo said I am in a cardigan and a pair of shorts, and that he's not coming from this from a point of being "better" it's just something he feels strongly about. NBA players are getting their stylist to put together expensive outfits for them, do you think that's what Iverson was doing? I think they are identfying two things from Covid, people want to be more comfortable and are lazier, and people are unimaginative/everyones doing the same thing. Take something you MAY care about NBA uniforms look at the Pistons logo from the 90's a flaming horse with fire coming out the word "Pistons" compared to what you see today. The San Antonio All-star jerseys, it's a sign of the times.

  • @thatetdude
    @thatetdude Місяць тому +1

    Never disagreed with Pablo more lol. Love this new attire for them, it is much more comfortable for them and allows for focus on that

  • @paulmerca70601
    @paulmerca70601 Місяць тому +1

    Is it possible that after the pandemic, Nike started enforcing terms of its contract with the NBA like they do with the NFL and make coaching staffs wear the quarter zips and golf shirts? Just asking.

  • @mango.lightshows
    @mango.lightshows Місяць тому +4

    big talk from the guy who looks like a burger king employee

  • @Butterforyourrolls
    @Butterforyourrolls Місяць тому +4

    Now you have Wesley on? Pablo, how are you down with all the coolest people?

  • @brinecarroll
    @brinecarroll Місяць тому

    27:40 cannot believe pablo didn't bring up sam hinkie wearing the same suit talking about "choice fatigue"

  • @sleepingwolf8659
    @sleepingwolf8659 Місяць тому +3

    Material girls living in a material world

  • @thehoboman
    @thehoboman Місяць тому +3

    golf is a sport like StarCraft is a sport

  • @blackdaylight
    @blackdaylight Місяць тому +2

    It's wild that Pablo Torre fans are not hip to nuance...i don't need suits, but why does everyone on the bench need to rock the same thing??🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @z-ro34
    @z-ro34 Місяць тому +4

    This episode is a phobe.

  • @bkmick
    @bkmick Місяць тому

    Easy solution! Custom print Aloha shirts ala the Maui Classic. Formal and comfortable, a high end shirt costs $200.

  • @thatissonicK
    @thatissonicK Місяць тому

    Pablo been on a run lately

  • @pdp10034
    @pdp10034 Місяць тому +8

    Yall really got a dude in a Burger King uniform complaining about coaching attire? “You’re out of uniform” head ass 😂

  • @andrewmatthews2645
    @andrewmatthews2645 Місяць тому +1

    This dude is hilarious.

  • @kylesmoran
    @kylesmoran Місяць тому +4

    Welcome to european football. You guys we are like 10 years behind.

  • @djmixadams3156
    @djmixadams3156 Місяць тому

    How yall not show Sydney Carter?

  • @kami_in_the_skye
    @kami_in_the_skye Місяць тому

    Poor pullover Doc looks so defeated by life... 😔

  • @jaelee2328
    @jaelee2328 Місяць тому +2

    fuck wearing suits!

  • @kylesmoran
    @kylesmoran Місяць тому +3

    Rich people spending 100 dollars on tshirts to try and blend in with us is aggravating.

  • @mjmwise
    @mjmwise Місяць тому +14

    The well-dressed South American dictators who ordered death squads into action in the 80s turned me off to dress codes forever. Seriously. Sartorial expertise and access don't equal moral superiority or righteousness of purpose. Allen Iverson was an adult when the dress code was imposed on nba players.

    • @anardi7112
      @anardi7112 Місяць тому

      Yeah, but Pep Guardiola's fits tho.

    • @markmittens
      @markmittens Місяць тому

      they make this point that dressing up represents power and hierachy, they used the Pat Riley example, and what they are saying is we understand all that but do you have to dress this bad! your point is much more serious and correct.

  • @FlowStateNewOrleans
    @FlowStateNewOrleans Місяць тому +10

    I can't listen to this one. The only good thing that came out of the pandemic was the end of stupid, classist, BS dress codes. It was the one good thing. I already worked from home starting in 2016 and they're trying to take that away from the entire workforce. Oh, my god, I hate this premise.

    • @thehoboman
      @thehoboman Місяць тому +5

      an inflexible dress code for non-public facing staff is a huge red flag, it's right up there with management saying "we're a family"

    • @kylesmoran
      @kylesmoran Місяць тому

      They're on your side. The side of the workers.

    • @kylesmoran
      @kylesmoran Місяць тому

      Deep down you know the bosses are the bad guys

  • @Sludgeman4life
    @Sludgeman4life Місяць тому +2

    How is the guy in the 7-11 shirt gonna critique fashion?? Bro you look like your late for your shift at taco bell..😂

  • @noMerehwoN
    @noMerehwoN Місяць тому

    #ReparationsNow.. RIGHT HOW! ✊🏽

  • @fepic
    @fepic Місяць тому

    Lotta folks big mad in here 🤣 Great episode! Look at all this interaction, got the algorithms lovin ya.

  • @thehoboman
    @thehoboman Місяць тому +5

    Wearing a full suit while coaching has always been weird. It's beyond "look at me Louie" behavior.

  • @iarej0e
    @iarej0e Місяць тому +3

    Wesley looks like AI

  • @kylesmoran
    @kylesmoran Місяць тому +5

    Im poor. Its always been like this. You not so poors are being affected now. Wake up and unite.

  • @Rawsavon
    @Rawsavon Місяць тому +1

    Not every song on an album can be a banger

  • @JenniferMcdaniel-yk9zn
    @JenniferMcdaniel-yk9zn Місяць тому

    You must do a full show on Jerry Stackhouse while he was the coach at Vanderbilt. He was always perfection. We had a group text just for his clothing and shoes.

  • @kami_in_the_skye
    @kami_in_the_skye Місяць тому

    Also, don't need suits. Not even a fan of them in most cases (Doc & Jack Del Rio's were alright, but Pat Riley looked way too much like a coked up '80s sleazebag grifter). But more time/thought/effort/etc/so forth than me, an irreparably damaged soul who struggles to average 20-30% of a regular person's energy levels any given day, doesn't seem unreasonable?

  • @CADClicker
    @CADClicker Місяць тому

    Tbr it felt a little racist to compare Snitker to John Rocker. Just because he's white and in a Braves jersey? Just bizarre

  • @TheThizzelle
    @TheThizzelle Місяць тому

    Wtf? 😂 why do coaches of sports teams need to wear suits? Belichick wore a hoodie. If you know a coach, that's just time they could spend watching film.

  • @kylesmoran
    @kylesmoran Місяць тому

    Wesley Morris lost all credibility when he said "dress shoes are comfortable" try a hoka bondi or a brooks glycerin or an asics nimbus. get the hell out of here!!!

  • @KillerRobot9
    @KillerRobot9 Місяць тому +1

    Fantastic podcast. Shopping for work clothes after college graduation right now and definitely needed to hear this. Time to put effort into dressing well again!

  • @boblangjahr9442
    @boblangjahr9442 Місяць тому +2

    More Wesley please!

  • @NYYNYKNYG
    @NYYNYKNYG Місяць тому +1

    This also has been bothering me. Bring back the Suits

  • @dylanleugers7789
    @dylanleugers7789 Місяць тому +1

    suits are stupid, can't change my mind

  • @kylesmoran
    @kylesmoran Місяць тому +1

    Climate town. Merch is really bad.

  • @pdp10034
    @pdp10034 Місяць тому +1

    Its between this one and the video game demo for worst episode

    • @fepic
      @fepic Місяць тому

      Cool take

  • @Sludgeman4life
    @Sludgeman4life Місяць тому

    They cant all be bangers...lol

  • @noMerehwoN
    @noMerehwoN Місяць тому

    If you have time to give any fucks about what people are or aren’t wearing… 🤨.

  • @jaxsoncarter952
    @jaxsoncarter952 Місяць тому

    Thank goodness!! Hate all those suits. Everyone is dress the same looks much better

  • @shanewilson434
    @shanewilson434 Місяць тому +6

    Pablo, you are on some bullshit with these episodes lately.

    • @BraMoore
      @BraMoore Місяць тому

      You're a clown 🤡 you should ask for your money back

    • @thehoboman
      @thehoboman Місяць тому +2

      lots of duds, but that means he's due for a banger

  • @8CIC8
    @8CIC8 Місяць тому +1

    These fellas hate sports.

    • @fepic
      @fepic Місяць тому

      You clearly weren’t listening beyond those prejudices in your head 🤣🗑️

  • @chweka211
    @chweka211 Місяць тому

    Pablo you have to get Wesley as a permanent co-host

  • @lumpymattress5649
    @lumpymattress5649 Місяць тому +1

    Entertaining for sure but frivolous and Uber-critical beyond comprehension…