As a KNICKS fan, ABSOLUTELY not! I have been a bonafide Duke hater for years (Syracuse Orange fan), and I am taking a 1 year sabbatical because of ZION and RJ...I'll go back to "hating" on them next year. Let's go Duke 2019!
Love Duke Haters...Been a fan of Duke since the 80's. I need someone to turn my nose up on..you'll do fine. Duke for life...Private School Satnd Up!! Lol
Me and my brother, lifetime Duke fans. UNC fans are the worst with that ridiculous *HATE.* Me and my brother almost beat down a UNC fan at the DMV when he jumped in our conversation about getting Duke license plates. Our father had died 2 days prior and this fool wants to beef about a team. It's foolishness.
@@Buckeyechick517 Here's a slam coming from a black man (me) aimed at you. If you're not black, you just lied to a Canadian. You did a great job of demonstrating that it aint just blacks slamming each other, you *idiot.*
@@MrRunescapeSon Your thinking is the reason why. It wouldn't become a big time program overnight but it can be. If some of these top recruits went that way and started a trend they would reap a financial windfall where those programs CAN become big time programs.
ABSOLUTELY not facts. Duke always recruited Black players. When they rose to national prominence in the mid to late 80s, their best players were black, Johnnie Dawkins (NBA player) and Tommy Amaker.
star fire he played his way to the first pick this year, and he’s a real competitor he showed that in abundance at duke. Can’t wait to see his game in a couple years he’s gonna be nice at the next level.
I agree college athletes should be paid and compensated but if you would be extremely naive to think Zion Williamson isn’t getting paid some really good money right now.
The reason no one mentioned why people hate Duke is because they are a top ranked academic school! They are consistently ranked top 10 universities in the USA. They seem preppy because they ARE preppy lol
Um no. Hardly any of the athletes qualifies for the academic standards. The colleges that actually apply the academic standards to athletes are few and far between like Stanford.
@@knowyourenemy50 A lot have schools have gotten busted for scandals involving academics and athletes including UNC but Duke has not. Not yet at least, so they have been a "clean" program compared to schools who are actually winning games. Stanford isn't relevant in college basketball or football
@@RALPHLAURENISTHEBEST I could agree with that! And Marcellus called out Witlock on that. Duke not saying they better they just aren't saying anything at all because they haven't had to yet.
I’m sick of the constant white bashing. Duke is a private university with high academic standards. They firmly believe in student-athletes. Public universities simply have/had lower standards. The snobbishness of Duke was/is about academics and being a more elite student-athlete.
I love how they painting this picture of UNC being some public Community College lol. Granted I am a Duke fan and its hard to get into Duke, Its border line Ivy League. But being from a major city in NC with 15 High Schools in my county, its less than 20 students that go to either Duke or UNC on a yearly basis from my city. Point being is that its still super hard to get accepted into UNC and a lil harder to get into Duke.
Sometimes I have no clue what Marcellus is saying? I do remember not long after Jay Williams left, it came out that some of there athletes were taking garbage classes. Not classes you would think an elite private schools would have.
I hate when people complain about bandwagons. What's wrong with a bandwagon? On the other hand, the question shouldn't be whether or not it's hypocritical to hop on the Duke bandwagon. The question could be, " If you are jumping on the Duke bandwagon, is it because you might be a little bit racist and haven't yet discovered that about yourself?"
Duke alum here. Replace the words snob with high expectations. Duke is not a normal place and that is OK. But don't forget that UNC is one of the best schools in the country (one of the most beautiful too) along with UVA, Michigan, Berkley, etc., and their team will probably win the tournament this year.
Can Whitlock leave his bias opinion out of it? It’s already a little irritating that he has no pro or collegiate experience and trying to criticize players but being bias towards situations because of his personal feelings is not acceptable.
I'm from the south side of Chicago. I didn't relate to any of Duke's players growing up bc Duke was never part of the hip hop culture. I related to UNLV Ana the Fab Five
I've always wondered why fans hate my Blue Devils so much. Me and my brother were trying to decide on getting Duke license plates in the DMV one day, a UNC fan got mad at us talking about, "who would want a Duke plate". Obviously us. What if we woulda had to beat that dude down outside? Our Dad had just died and we weren't in the mood to hear nonsense like Whitlock is talking about, it's just sports.
Funny thing is, no one seems to know Duke's history in NC's black history. Research how & why Duke even got started & its involvement in the city of Durham. 😏😏😏
I’ve been a Duke fan since I was born back in 05 Jj Reddick 07 loss to VCU “10 National Champions Kylie Irving Kyle Singler Jon Scheyer now this new era of players Coach K is coaching I have mixed opinions but I love my team win or lose
Whitlock is throwing the term elitist around as if he fully understands how inappropriate it is in this situation. Duke has a college basketball program that recruits top talents. They are blue chip with high standards. Unless he is implying the program is racist then that’s a different story. Hating a successful program isn’t new but as a journalist he should be able to better articulate why he hates it.
My thing is just be consistent. if you’re gonna love Zion, you have to love Duke. Duke is filled to the brim with unbelievably talented kids from all sorts of backgrounds. They may not all be Zion level transcendent talents, but the vast majority have innate, God given talents. You may dislike elitism but what is elitism other than being born with amazing privileges and gifts. Zion had to work hard, I’m sure, to get where he is. But you can’t deny that, like all those rich d-bags who go on to remain rich d-bags, he has metaphorically started at third base and run home.
I like Zion because the fact he’s a baller. He could have sat after the injury and he decided to come back because it’s the game he loves and he didn’t wanna leave his teammates hanging. Cause on the court those guys are your brothers and if you care anything about them and the game you play you need to be there for your brothers. But I don’t like Duke, just cause they get all the top recruits. I enjoy more of a underdog story.
@Konscious Klout its called recycling financial revenue within your own community. It's beyond NCAA BS, it would be movement similar to Colin Kapernick.
It's simple, Lebron started all this super team BS that's now trickled down to the collegiate level. All these kids had to join together to form a super team...once at UK when they had the "1 & 2 unit" when they had like ten 5* players, and now Zion, Barrett, Jones, Reddish, and Joey Baker who reclassified for 2018-2019...I mean my gawd how many of these kids does UK and Duke need to stay competitive? I mean they barely beat UNC by a point and they needed them to have a bad shooting night from UNC, and a monster game from Zion to win by 1 point, and had Coby's shot or Little's ut back gone in we'd still be favoring Duke. Look what's happened to Reddish...he's the 3rd wheel, where had he gone elsewhere he'd be the 1st option making a case to go over Barrett and even Zion because to me he's the best prospect of them all in the NBA long run.
@@darrengordon-hill well..obviously i was speaking of the players. But sure...throw in as many white guys as u want. Duke like everyone else has been mostly black
@@leekautz2926 Life isn't all about the NBA sir. Most people go to uni for the education. More players use their basketball skills to get an education, rather than use college to get to the NBA.
@@darrengordon-hill agreed. Off subject but agreed. The topic was how "white" duke appears to be over the years when its just not true. Their teams have been just as black as any other
Whitlock always out here talkin' bout the most random stuff. Everybody hops teams when LeBron changes jersey's. Whitlock, this is a question that doesn't matter.
Duke is s shell of its self the only thing holding any resemblance of the old duke is coach k and he is barely like his old self besides from berating the officials. He recruits 3 or 4 top 5 star recruits every year runs them to the ground 35 plus minutes a game never calls any plays and pretty much Hope's for the best. When coach k retires Duke is done
Its always helpful if my fav players never played for duke.lol. but I'll get over it for zion. Just like I'm getting over it cus we have cook on my warriors.lol
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Carolina, he’s 6’7 285 pounds with a 45 inch vert and a passion and love for the game that’s unmatched in college right now. He looks like a man among boys in college, he’s great right now. He may not be great in the NBA but we’ll have to wait and see. As of right now he isn’t good he is great.
There used to be a real difference between Duke, Virginia, Notre Dame, and the rest of the elite basketball schools. That difference is that those three schools had actual student athletes. The members of their teams could have actually been admitted to college based on academics. That isn't true any more. I would be pressed to think of one elite basketball program with real student athletes. (not including bench warmers) I think Duke was hated most because each year there are maybe 15 blue chippers and maybe 5 are real student athletes. Duke would get 3 of those guys because those kids knew they could go to class get a degree and play ball. So Mr. Whitlock, there is no reason to hate on Duke any more, they have become the same dirty program as everybody else.
Is it hypocritical to jump on the Duke bandwagon because of Zion?
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Yes!! So. . that's how alot of human's are. . . . .
Get outta here. Name 5 white stars Duke had? They had way more black stars than white. All day
As a KNICKS fan, ABSOLUTELY not!
I have been a bonafide Duke hater for years (Syracuse Orange fan), and I am taking a 1 year sabbatical because of ZION and RJ...I'll go back to "hating" on them next year.
Let's go Duke 2019!
Joshua Turner this is a fairly recent turn of events. For decades before they were a white basketball team for a rich white school.
Ok...imma say it, whitlock never hopped in his whole life.
😂✔💯
@@kennethbonney7638 Facts: He never hopped or hooped. Lol
That's hilarious, lol
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I hate duke I’m UNC all day but I do find myself giving Zion much respect and hope he makes it big
i hate duke w/ a passion...but Zion is special. im rooting for him.
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Love Duke Haters...Been a fan of Duke since the 80's. I need someone to turn my nose up on..you'll do fine. Duke for life...Private School Satnd Up!! Lol
@@jbzzl48 tarheels gonna knock them out of the tourney just wait and see.
You don't know what "passion" is, just fanboi
Me and my brother, lifetime Duke fans. UNC fans are the worst with that ridiculous *HATE.* Me and my brother almost beat down a UNC fan at the DMV when he jumped in our conversation about getting Duke license plates. Our father had died 2 days prior and this fool wants to beef about a team. It's foolishness.
I still find it crazy being Canadian seeing how deep racial lines run in the U.S..
You can bet the racial slams are all coming from Af Americans aimed at other Af Americans.
@@Buckeyechick517 Here's a slam coming from a black man (me) aimed at you. If you're not black, you just lied to a Canadian. You did a great job of demonstrating that it aint just blacks slamming each other, you *idiot.*
Read American history. It’s in America’s very foundation. It’s in our DNA and always will be.
Social media exacerbates everything. We all know racism is wrong. We all display predjudices. And here's Canadians acting like they don't have them.
@@justanother6595 we have problems, a lot of them. Race included but it's not as deep rooted in society here as race seems to be to Americans
Black players should go to HBCUs. Take your talents there and bring the revenue to those campuses.
I have always wondered why these black athletes don't all go to Howard ..Morehouse etc and create big time programs for historically black colleges
No one wants to go to HBCUs let’s be honest. I attended one I rather be at a big program like duke etc, but you know money and loans. Nah
@@MrRunescapeSon Your thinking is the reason why. It wouldn't become a big time program overnight but it can be. If some of these top recruits went that way and started a trend they would reap a financial windfall where those programs CAN become big time programs.
@@jjayphilly342 well said jjayphilly
@@jjayphilly342 Agreed "financial windmill"
Duke knew they were going to be obsolete if they didn't recruit more Black players. That's facts.
ABSOLUTELY not facts. Duke always recruited Black players. When they rose to national prominence in the mid to late 80s, their best players were black, Johnnie Dawkins (NBA player) and Tommy Amaker.
Recency Bias Radio Coach 1K always recruited black players, Black players just didn’t want to come until they saw other black players go there! 🔵😈
Stfup
Starting in 1965, 54 years ago? Do I need to point out why your statement is flawed?
Terrible take. Try again. Duke as always recruited Black players.
The media is upset how Duke plays well together, smile and don't let outside influences interrupt their chemistry.
I didn't even watch college bball until Zion came along. He is fun to watch.
it always fascinates me how people like whitlock and jalen rose despise black people, in this case grant hill, who were brought up by good parents.
Funny how these guys are getting paid to talk about Zion. Meanwhile Zion out there giving his all for free.
star fire he played his way to the first pick this year, and he’s a real competitor he showed that in abundance at duke. Can’t wait to see his game in a couple years he’s gonna be nice at the next level.
I agree college athletes should be paid and compensated but if you would be extremely naive to think Zion Williamson isn’t getting paid some really good money right now.
don’t matter because Zion will be a multi millionaire within a few months
That's how it goes. Zion will earn more than all them in his career.
Aww, poor lil black victim; certain he's a suicidal as the homeless dude under the bridge you just drove over
The reason no one mentioned why people hate Duke is because they are a top ranked academic school! They are consistently ranked top 10 universities in the USA. They seem preppy because they ARE preppy lol
Um no. Hardly any of the athletes qualifies for the academic standards. The colleges that actually apply the academic standards to athletes are few and far between like Stanford.
@@knowyourenemy50 A lot have schools have gotten busted for scandals involving academics and athletes including UNC but Duke has not. Not yet at least, so they have been a "clean" program compared to schools who are actually winning games. Stanford isn't relevant in college basketball or football
Avery Blockmon one thing im gone say is that when it comes to the sports none of these schools are clean just haven’t gotten caught
@@RALPHLAURENISTHEBEST I could agree with that! And Marcellus called out Witlock on that. Duke not saying they better they just aren't saying anything at all because they haven't had to yet.
Souljaboy Gucci Headband Why accuse Duke with no evidence? Oh, because you’re soulja boy
Whitlock is a Buffoon but he's right about Duke
*Whitlock is right about Duke*
It's not "elitist" but EDUCATED.
UNLV had more talent.
Duke had more COLLEGE GRADUATES.
Lol Jason said he would have liked Grant Hill better had he gone to Georgetown like somehow those aren’t elite wealthy kids too
Bronnie is totally not privileged...
Uh, isn’t Georgetown an “elitist” school?
I’m sick of the constant white bashing.
Duke is a private university with high academic standards. They firmly believe in student-athletes. Public universities simply have/had lower standards. The snobbishness of Duke was/is about academics and being a more elite student-athlete.
They're douches, and everyone I've worked with who has a degree from Duke portray it to a T.
Bashing Duke isn't white bashing. A lot of Indian, and Asians in the stands at Cameron...
"explain aritocracy to me and our viewers"
Had me dead
How could you not LOVE Duke Basketball!! Go DUKE!!
Can't wait to see Marcellus grow his hair out like Whitlock.
Todd lmfao I never realized Whitlock had hair wtffffff
Thought he always had hair,but now that you mention it,is this the Mandela effect?
The Duke he went baldie for years.. like Rick Ross and the Game
Why this show still on the air
I love how they painting this picture of UNC being some public Community College lol. Granted I am a Duke fan and its hard to get into Duke, Its border line Ivy League. But being from a major city in NC with 15 High Schools in my county, its less than 20 students that go to either Duke or UNC on a yearly basis from my city. Point being is that its still super hard to get accepted into UNC and a lil harder to get into Duke.
Whitlock looks hungry
Big boys hangry*
I love dukes cOAch. . . that's it. . . . plus Zion. . . 🏀🏀🏀
What did coach k do for you to like him?
When tf did Biglock get hair again lmao
Listen. There was a valid reason to go to these type of schools..but now point proven lets take this( power ,ability) and apply it to our institutions
If Zion gets drafted to the Cavs, I can't wait to see how many non Cavs fans root for them.
Sometimes I have no clue what Marcellus is saying? I do remember not long after Jay Williams left, it came out that some of there athletes were taking garbage classes. Not classes you would think an elite private schools would have.
I hate when people complain about bandwagons. What's wrong with a bandwagon? On the other hand, the question shouldn't be whether or not it's hypocritical to hop on the Duke bandwagon. The question could be, " If you are jumping on the Duke bandwagon, is it because you might be a little bit racist and haven't yet discovered that about yourself?"
Doesn't Duke have ivy league academic admission standards?
Duke alum here. Replace the words snob with high expectations. Duke is not a normal place and that is OK. But don't forget that UNC is one of the best schools in the country (one of the most beautiful too) along with UVA, Michigan, Berkley, etc., and their team will probably win the tournament this year.
Not fair to criticize Duke. Bunch of insecure haters
Can Whitlock leave his bias opinion out of it? It’s already a little irritating that he has no pro or collegiate experience and trying to criticize players but being bias towards situations because of his personal feelings is not acceptable.
@MM E He played college football at Ball State.
He played college football. Think about this, do you think Whitlock had an elitist attitude while HE was in college? I'd be shocked if he didn't.
I'm from the south side of Chicago. I didn't relate to any of Duke's players growing up bc Duke was never part of the hip hop culture. I related to UNLV Ana the Fab Five
Listening to this guy say that Duke is not elitist, while saying Duke is elitist is hilarious! 😂😁😂
Goatlock hair looks nice
I'm Canadian. Why do American's talk about race so much still to this day? What's the point
I've always wondered why fans hate my Blue Devils so much. Me and my brother were trying to decide on getting Duke license plates in the DMV one day, a UNC fan got mad at us talking about, "who would want a Duke plate". Obviously us. What if we woulda had to beat that dude down outside? Our Dad had just died and we weren't in the mood to hear nonsense like Whitlock is talking about, it's just sports.
Coach K got the gold with some of the greatest players.
Following an individual player is not hypocritical.
Funny thing is, no one seems to know Duke's history in NC's black history. Research how & why Duke even got started & its involvement in the city of Durham. 😏😏😏
I want see only Zion succeed but duke to win the ncaa championship #brotherhoodofduke🔵 #si6hts
I’ve been a Duke fan since I was born back in 05 Jj Reddick 07 loss to VCU “10 National Champions Kylie Irving Kyle Singler Jon Scheyer now this new era of players Coach K is coaching I have mixed opinions but I love my team win or lose
Whitlock is throwing the term elitist around as if he fully understands how inappropriate it is in this situation. Duke has a college basketball program that recruits top talents. They are blue chip with high standards. Unless he is implying the program is racist then that’s a different story. Hating a successful program isn’t new but as a journalist he should be able to better articulate why he hates it.
Yes...they're snobby. But its not just duke. Any school who has mostly spoiled rich kids
Wtf is the dude on the left saying 😂
My thing is just be consistent. if you’re gonna love Zion, you have to love Duke. Duke is filled to the brim with unbelievably talented kids from all sorts of backgrounds. They may not all be Zion level transcendent talents, but the vast majority have innate, God given talents. You may dislike elitism but what is elitism other than being born with amazing privileges and gifts. Zion had to work hard, I’m sure, to get where he is. But you can’t deny that, like all those rich d-bags who go on to remain rich d-bags, he has metaphorically started at third base and run home.
Well it took a little while but it's finally proven. There is literally nothing that Whitlock can't be wrong about.
UNC has a lot student that is out of the state of North Carolina.
In that picture...is that a mouthpiece?
So we can't root for his success?!??
I like Zion because the fact he’s a baller. He could have sat after the injury and he decided to come back because it’s the game he loves and he didn’t wanna leave his teammates hanging. Cause on the court those guys are your brothers and if you care anything about them and the game you play you need to be there for your brothers. But I don’t like Duke, just cause they get all the top recruits. I enjoy more of a underdog story.
Elite black players should go to HBCU’s. Pour that money in to schools that need the money.
Wont happen
@Konscious Klout its called recycling financial revenue within your own community. It's beyond NCAA BS, it would be movement similar to Colin Kapernick.
If you look at the background of the greatest Duke Players, the only elitist player is Grant Hill.
Roy Williams > Coach K
Jason was balled for fun lmAo 😂
I guess Jason doesn‘t know what hypocritical means
......someone needs to land in the Chi, Zion or the like...
It's simple, Lebron started all this super team BS that's now trickled down to the collegiate level. All these kids had to join together to form a super team...once at UK when they had the "1 & 2 unit" when they had like ten 5* players, and now Zion, Barrett, Jones, Reddish, and Joey Baker who reclassified for 2018-2019...I mean my gawd how many of these kids does UK and Duke need to stay competitive? I mean they barely beat UNC by a point and they needed them to have a bad shooting night from UNC, and a monster game from Zion to win by 1 point, and had Coby's shot or Little's ut back gone in we'd still be favoring Duke. Look what's happened to Reddish...he's the 3rd wheel, where had he gone elsewhere he'd be the 1st option making a case to go over Barrett and even Zion because to me he's the best prospect of them all in the NBA long run.
duke fans are almost as bad as warriors fans, just thinking about them makes me angry
Are those Becky's being hypocritical too? 😂
Zion does need to grow more though😂😂😂😂 He’s only 6’7. He definately should be able to get up to 6’9. Nba a lot different.
FCK FATLOCK
Can’t hop on since I was there once my boy Cam signed
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No matter what each Superstar I need some help pool off they need to do
I hate duke too but dam if I didn't catch every game on tv this season
Lol....duke has always been mostly black. What? Allen...hurley...laettner? Wow..three good white players.
Ignore all those that didn't go pro but became good coaches (Woj).
@@darrengordon-hill well..obviously i was speaking of the players. But sure...throw in as many white guys as u want. Duke like everyone else has been mostly black
@@leekautz2926 Life isn't all about the NBA sir.
Most people go to uni for the education.
More players use their basketball skills to get an education, rather than use college to get to the NBA.
@@darrengordon-hill agreed. Off subject but agreed. The topic was how "white" duke appears to be over the years when its just not true. Their teams have been just as black as any other
@@leekautz2926
People say: "Duke basketball".
You/many think: "NBA players" (Deng, Kyrie, Hill, Shelden Williams, Zion).
Who's the nerd tho🤔
Convo went from elitism to racialized class systems in college. White people got awkward...
Whitlock always out here talkin' bout the most random stuff. Everybody hops teams when LeBron changes jersey's. Whitlock, this is a question that doesn't matter.
Duke is s shell of its self the only thing holding any resemblance of the old duke is coach k and he is barely like his old self besides from berating the officials. He recruits 3 or 4 top 5 star recruits every year runs them to the ground 35 plus minutes a game never calls any plays and pretty much Hope's for the best. When coach k retires Duke is done
Duke must of kilt your team
Nah
*Wileys head is shiny* ✨ ❇
Its always helpful if my fav players never played for duke.lol. but I'll get over it for zion. Just like I'm getting over it cus we have cook on my warriors.lol
America has the least upward mobility of any country in the OECD....aka the industrialized world.....but hey no problem at least you got your myths.
So are we going to talk about basketball or race relations?🤷🏾♂️ give me a break!
This show Is so bogus
Whitlock is wierd because he is the snobby person he talks about
#GODUKE
*Bo Jackson played for the Raiders.
*Kansas City Royals
Zion or not...I want duke to get pounded. I'll root for zion in the pros
I like this guy on the left, who is this guy?
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Zion Williamson is good but he isn’t Great 💯💯💯💯💯
Carolina, he’s 6’7 285 pounds with a 45 inch vert and a passion and love for the game that’s unmatched in college right now. He looks like a man among boys in college, he’s great right now. He may not be great in the NBA but we’ll have to wait and see. As of right now he isn’t good he is great.
Your catfishing is good but it isn't great
He's the greatest college athlete we seen in this decade. Your straight cappin
It's a little too premature to determine that.
star fire ur cute but not smart ...
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There used to be a real difference between Duke, Virginia, Notre Dame, and the rest of the elite basketball schools. That difference is that those three schools had actual student athletes. The members of their teams could have actually been admitted to college based on academics. That isn't true any more. I would be pressed to think of one elite basketball program with real student athletes. (not including bench warmers) I think Duke was hated most because each year there are maybe 15 blue chippers and maybe 5 are real student athletes. Duke would get 3 of those guys because those kids knew they could go to class get a degree and play ball.
So Mr. Whitlock, there is no reason to hate on Duke any more, they have become the same dirty program as everybody else.
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Clay Travis??
DBAP
Sound like a coach k hater
Marcellus doesn't know what he's talking about
How is Marcellus always so wrong. Sweet Jesus.
You mean Whitlock.
Duke should try get Lamelo ball if he’s allowed to play college ball because they’ll get heaps of hype again with that
Rj barrett going to be better
Want duke to lose but Zion drop 40. I was a fan of him when majority of people wanted to see him shoot then they hopped on
Cousin sal haha