The True Origins of Pokeball Pokemon! 🍄 Gnoggin
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Why would a Pokemon want to look like a pokeball? what advantage does that bring it? And why would they design a pokemon like that in the first place?
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This video answers these questions:
Why does voltorb look like a pokeball?
Why does electrode look like a pokeball?
Why does foongus look like a pokeball?
Why does amoonguss look like a pokeball?
Why do voltorb and electrode look like pokeballs?
Why do foongus and amoongus look like pokeballs?
Is there a mimic in pokemon?
is there a mimic pokemon?
why do pokemon look like pokeballs?
why do some pokemon look like pokeballs?
and also answers:
why voltorb looks like a pokeball
why electrode looks like a pokeball
why foongus looks like a pokeball
and
why amoonguss looks like a pokeball
Gnoggin, hosted by its creator Lockstin, is a show delving into the mysteries of Pokemon! (and other games sometimes too). Explaining everything there is to explain! Why is each Pokemon given the type it has? What are their origins? What is the lore of the Pokemon world and the design inspirations? And what does it all have to do with alchemy? Let's Go find out!
Or...
Pokemon avoid poke balls because they could accidentally get caught by touching it. So predator or aggressive pokemon will avoid a voltorb if they think it's a loose pokeball they could get trapped in.
Thats real clever
There are tales that speak of how Pokemon wish to be caught, so it could also be luring prey. Take a look at Galarfisk. That's no prey.
Or run away from Voltorb because it's a predator that's literally bright red.
Foongus and amoongoos are said to use their pokeball-like design to lure others
Hmm another theory is that they looked like that before poke balls and while looking at said voltorbs thought the design of it was quite pleasing and made its color be the base pokeball design
"Wow! I found a Master Ba-"
Voltorb in Master Ball disguise: *explodes in my face*
Wait shing voltorb is a great ball
Spheal just wants to fit in and be loved. That wasn't your drink, it was the tears of the rejected spheal.
He got the Spheal of Disapproval.
Spheal is the best round boy!
Best pokemon theory of all time
poor spheal
First they become rejected starters. The next they are rejected pokeballd
so basically, one can say Cofagrigus is ALSO a mimic!
He pretends to be a regular coffin, but once treasure hunters open it, he swallows them and turns them into mummies, which is referenced in many of his dex entries, such as the one from Pokémon Y: "Grave robbers who mistake them for real coffins and get too close end up *trapped inside their bodies* ."
The entry from Pokémon White also talks about this: " *They pretend to be elaborate coffins to teach lessons to grave robbers.* Their bodies are covered in pure gold."
Like, Cofagrigus is basically a REAL LIFE mimic or something!
"They will use that energy to produce more offspring"
*video about Pokemon rule34 pops up*
Lockstin you're a genius
Look at the placement of the Electrodes and the Amoongus in the thumbnail.
@@neoncobalt1779 Wheezing! ;)
@@MrSuperbeast92 lol
For more evidence about the Haunter being Voltorb theory, Compare the "smiles" on Gengar and Eloctrode.They look really similar, almost the same
xeiobee And Also... Electrode’s eyes are on the white part of the Pokeball, meaning... it does have eyes that are like Haunter’s, you just can’t tell because the rest of the surrounding area is the same shade as its’ sclera.
Tornait oh yeah that, makes sense
It can't be a coincidence that a "shroom" pokemon has a pokeball design. Shrooms. Tripping Balls. You see it.
Tripping balls
Trapping balls
I want to believe this was intentional just because if how stupid yet brilliant it is
@@miguelvalle898 its actually scary how well this works
Oh no. He's right
(Also hello my fellow kazuma)
What better day to post that than 4/20
That Pokémon alchemy shirt is honestly the coolest shirt I’ve seen in a long time.
in the anime when a pokemon faints in battle they get knocked unconscious for like 2 seconds and then they just get up and walk away like nothing happened
@bryan diaz varela Game balance. Also probably because the pokeball is designed so pokemon must be impressed with you and get captured willingly. That's why pokemon can break out. and if fainted they couldn't resist so they aren't allowed to be caught.
being knocked/chocked out IRL only lasts a few seconds too. Any longer and the other person might wake up with drain bamage
@@barryfraser831 but can catch them while asleep
@bryan diaz varela thats not how it works
@@marcopohl4875 whats being choked gotta do with anything
I can't believe you Spheal'd your drink.
Ow, Wynaut a normal pun?
@@ncdino8815 That one was a little farfetch'd.
@@TheFrlncr i think it was a pretty goodra pun
@@TheFrlncr There's no shaymin that
“You don’t need to take 20 minutes to explain something that takes 3 sentences” says the guy who took 20 hours to explain that Pokémon was going to make a reboot
Rude
PP
It's almost like that was a self-deprecating joke
🤭
There's one theory you missed. It might be warning colours and a defence mechanism. Much like wasps or dart frogs, vibrant colours are used as warnings to potential predators. Some species die themselves if touched but the message is given. If voltorbs are natural, and explode if threatened, it's a pretty great way of forcing predators to avoid them.
9:16 That Karma Lockstin, that Spheal did nothing to you!
Spheal will remember this.
He got the Spheal of Disapproval.
You’re the ,,karma giver,, he’s to #MLG dude (or maybe dudet)
thats what i was thinking lol
hey samanthat hadley i just want to tell you that mlg has been a dead meme for years, please update your stale memes
Anyone who bought the alchemy shirt, tell us how long it takes until you inevitably hear "I knew Pokemon was the Devil's work!"
Considering how Pokemon has been peddled like "kiddie crack" all these years, it wouldn't be that far off. Those evil geniuses over at GameFreak clapped their hands together & transmuted a never-ending flow of cash... talk about turning lead into gold!
✌😁
Or why are pokeballs shaped like Pokemon
This idea is amazing
I always felt this way. The pokemon in theory came before the pokeball.
yes. this!
That's what I thought to
Maybe it's a RPG cliche. The Mimic. Though, I'm only talking about Voltorb and it's evolution.
Unless, pokeballs were actually that size. I probably wouldn't touch a 3' tall pokeball though. It's just a "NOPE" situation from my point of view.
This video was recommended to me just after Hisuian Voltorb Was revealed LOL
Hair level: anime main character.
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What price is tl oui
*shows a mythical Pokémon* "it is made by humans...we know what it is"
*shows a basic pokemon you find everywhere since first gen*
"that thing is much more mystical"
Little Spheal just wanted to give you some ice for your drink, I'm sure he's sorry for spilling
"Now, this is just a theory ..." (Nice one frame of Mat Pat :)
I just found this video. Saw that flash, and proceeded to spend the next few minutes in .25 speed, trying to pause the exact frame Mat Pat showed up. I can't believe you're the only person bringing that up.
My theory has always just been that when the Pokeball was invented, they looked at Foongus and Voltorb and were like "hey thats a cool lookin design, lets try that"
Good theory
Yeah that was mine too
So you guys skipped the video or what? Voltorb was first found in a pokeball factory according to pokedex data.
@@Rikhardt99 that doesn't make sense
fourth wall police could be a ghost pokemon who haunt a pokeball
My personal theory.... Voltorb amd electrode are grenades and bombs used by the military during war. I mean, we know war is a thing thanks to Lt. Surge actually saying he faught in one...
11:44 nice pic of MatPat lol
I was wondering what that subliminal image was.
@@Chaos89P It's literally Mat HONKING
I was wondering what it was so I slowed down the footage
@Otacon464 I did that out of pure stupidity
@Otacon464 I had to try probably a dozen times because I kept missing the frame. It's gotta be one frame long, maybe two.
4:40 chameleons change color to communicate not hide
Confirmed: Voltorb is a penguin
Is not👎🏻😠😡🤬🤯😳🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤯🤯🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
@@emmitheaussie5645 yo-you mad bro?
The possessed pokeball theory also explains why they explode. The haunter line are made of poison gas, and oftentimes gas that is harmful to breathe is also flammable and able to be set off by sparks, so the gas builds up in the Voltorb and electrode and explodes from the electricity. Also the presence of modern pokeball design all through history is most likely a paradox caused by time travel. With pokemon like Celebi, Dialga, and who knows what else, at least a few pokeballs probably ended up in the past, where they would have been regarded as miraculous things.
That Spheal sploosh sound effect was perfect! (too bad it was your drink)
"you don't need to spend 20 minutes explaining something that could take 3 sentences..."
but heeey...!! that's just an opinion, a lockstin opinion
Only dwarf chameleons do the color change to hide. Others use to cominicate or temp regualtion
But exists others animals that color change to hide. Like octopuses.
I wanted to make the same comment but you were faster^^ true it is kind of an old myth about chameleons ^^
You forgot Vivilon Pokeball design wing
Why are we here just to suffer. Voltorb feels nothing but pain and misery
Say it with me now; Chameleons don't change color to camouflage! They change based on mood and temperature!
5:09 Spinda: Hold my beer
Unown as well, along with Vivillon.
my thoughts on what happens when pokemon faint in the wild is largely inspired by a conversation between my sister and brother.
'how do pokemon live in the wild when they faint?'
'they eat berries'
'but they're passed out, they're fainted'
'they wake up and eat berries'
We are still waiting on that Dragon and normal type pokemon videos Gnoggin.
Is that a bust of Beethoven amidst all your Pokémon knick-knacks? OMG.
Why do specific Pokémon only evolve through trading?
@bryan diaz varela My life goal to find the answer to this ultimate question has been fulfilled.
I've heard a theory that it has to do with the manipulation and mixing of their bodily particles that take place during a trade.
Personally I believe they just react to the energy that makes the trading machine works.
Short answer: The energy involved in trading Pokemon triggers an evolution in certain species.
Deep-Dive Lore Analysis:
(ESSAY WARNING!)
I think the unique evolution requirements for Shelmet and Karrablast offered our first clue. Gameplay-wise you need to trade one for the other, during which their outer shell/skin is exchanged. The Pokedex explains this is the result of the two bugs being simultaneously exposed to electrical energy. In Unova, these rival species live on opposite ends of Chargestone Cave, hinting at how they've evolved long before humans started swapping them through Link Trade technology.
Gen 6 expanded on this idea, revealing that Link Trade has been the basis of the infamous warp tiles that plague every villainous lair since Gen 1. It's even strong enough to transport things through different dimensions. But this requires Infinity Energy, the very same power infused in every Mega Stone. With this in mind, imagine if traveling through Link Trade douses a Pokemon with similar evolutionary energies, much as an Ultra Wormhole irradiates all who pass through them. Any Pokemon susceptible to this energy, whether alone or paired with the right item, may be capable of metabolizing it towards a new evolution.
They always hate the first trainer for catching/hatching them
No one:
No body:
Not a soul:
Gnoggin: why look like balls?
If Electrode and Voltorb are indeed ghostly beings possessing Poke-balls, they've should've been Electric AND Ghost type, right next to Rotom.
No, cause rotom loses its ghost type when it possesses an object, so if another ghost possesses another object it makes total sense to have lost its ghost type
@@gruiaolaru511 im mind blown
Here is an idea, Voltorb explodes in order to stockpile prey for when it evolves to gain a mouth, but when it explodes it must take some time to recharge and wake back up. Gotta think, his explosion is just a massive dispersion of energy, rather than shrapnel explosion resulting in perma death.
Then, after it has stockpiled enough food and killed enough trainers and small mon- I mean Pokemon it then slowly eats them with it's newly gained mouth as an electrode.
Then comes along team rocket who utilize this mimic's properties as traps for nosy trainers attempting to rid them at the source.
My dnd group once had a boat, but the boat! Was a mimic! We got, via, flirt. It was great, also not our 1st mimic. We had fun
Step 1: approach mimic ship
Step 2: "Can I roll animal handling to befriend the mimic?"
Step 3: (smugly) "Yeah, sure if you roll like 25."
Step 4: Nat 20 + 3 WIS + proficiency (technically possible even at level 1)
Step 5: "...Crap."
Step 6: Have tamed mimic boat
Step 7: Vigirous high-fives up around
@@LuckySketches your D20 turned into a mimic
Alexander Carter no no no, we got it when our rogue found it in the woods, by her self, we found her on the coast and her bag just, became a boat, we also had a dragon friend who was gonna kill us till our warlock flirted with her
@@jayboom25
Oh. Well that does sound fun.
Alexander Carter we had him for like 20 minutes, he got killed
Poor spheal. He just wanted to catch them all
Anyone see mat pat 11:44
i slowed the vid and all just to make sure i wasnt goin crazy
Voltorb for every pokeball to many? Have you met spinda?
Or Vivillon?
Without trainers, there would be no Foongus Amoongus.
One pal of mine described Voltorb as “the Pokémon who saw God and wasn’t impressed” with no form of life conservation. I feel it’s accurate.
Sneasel needs a Razer Claw to evolve and Gligar a Razer Fang. Not only that, but they need to be at night. Do the two have some symbioses by working together or have some rivalry for food or land?
they live in different places, so no, gligar lives in deserts and sneasel lives in cold area
In the older games like Gen 3,there are areas like Mauville Undeground or The power plant in the gen 1 remakes ,that have pokeballs everywhere which can sometimes be Voltorbs and Electrodes that attack you.So yeah,it's just a mimic.
9:25 Spheal's Revenge
In my personal theory these pokemon exist because of Pokemon's habit of evolving with the traits of mimicry, like garboder or the klink line . This was my theory before PLA confirms that Electrode and Voltorb lived at a time before pokeballs were even a thing. So, now it's just a meta-game thing instead of something you can make fan-lore out of.
Was that mimic/well story sourced or original?
I dunno, but D&D also has coin mimics, gem mimics, the classic chest mimics, GAZEBO MIMICS, CASTLE MIMICS... basically I D&D anything can potentially be a mimic.
another case of predatory camouflage is Galarian Stunfisk. its body is in the shape of a bear trap and burrows in the ground. it then uses its beak with pokeball coloration to lure in naïve pokemon trainers
Based on the strange mushroom
Voultorb is toad
That "possessed pokeball" theory actually makes a surprising amount of sense, and fits right in with the dark theme in many pokedex entries!
NOOOOOO don't bully spheal! he's a good boi!
9:09 though 9:24
The most I've laughed in weeks 😂
"Even the Pokédex doesn't fully understand [...]"
Heh, Pokédex, understanding Pokémon, funny.
One untouched possible theory for Voltorb:
Many animals have bright and striking coloration as a defense mechanism in the form of a warning. Examples include bees, monarch butterflies, coral snakes, lion fish, etc. These colors are of course only present on poisonous/venomous creatures in real life, but what if Voltorb’s pokéball motif serves as a warning to other wild Pokémon? After all, Foongus’s pokéball disguise only fools some Pokémon. Plus even though it’s said wild Pokémon want to be caught by strong trainers, perhaps some don’t.
I think the better question is, why are there poke balls just lying around?
Presumably, people lose things and litter in the Pokemon world just like in ours.
@Otacon464 Purrloin comes to mind.
When you move your head, your hair waves around. Really cool. It also looks super fluffy. Want...to...pet...
Oh, my theory for why Voltorbs are purposely out in the field, mimicking a Pokeball for the player to touch, they want to be accepted. They know they're defective. They just want to be loved and appreciated!
I raised an Electrode, he was my MVP of my Emerald nuzlocke.
Voltorb/Electrode being mimics is proved in Rainbow Rocket's castle...
The poke ball mechanic Foogus and Amoongus had was pretty cool. You walk over and try to collect the item and get lured into a battle.
That happened with Voltorb and electrode as well in prior games - I know I got frustrated with it in Emerald and Alpha Sapphire.
*gets a Pokemon movie ad*
Me:
Yes.
If Voltorb and Electrode are possessed Pokeballs, that would explain why they explode:
Their intention was to trick people or Pokemon by looking like a pokeball, but after a while they realized that they couldn't leave that form, they are now trapped in a new body, unable to escape, and with a form they don't fully understand. Now electricity runs through their body, and they can't control it at will. Suddenly rage starts to grow in them and they get the feel that releasing all that rage at once might make them free, even if that kills them. So they explode, but it's not enough to calm down, not enough to kill them. They can't take it anymore, they can't go back to their former life, watching other Pokemon is painful as it's a reminder of what they lost, so they hide in dark places, preferably near electrical sources, trying to forget what is like being free.
But hey, that's just a theory... A POKEMON (and kind of sad) THEORY!
All those shirts are absolutely amazing, i cant hold my money
Self Destruct and Explosion seem to only refer to a release of energy without significant physical damage. A "fainted" Pokémon isn't necessarily unconscious, only unable to battle; various moves can still be used out of battle by a fainted Pokémon and it's possible to "revive" by raising max hp (such as by Rare Candy). Anyway, I can't imagine anything wants to hunt a Pokémon that releases a violent explosion of energy when disturbed
I like how the thumbnail is AMOONGUS
SUS
AMOG US
I took the design as not just camouflage but also a warning. Since people are always throwing pokeballs it may be something wild Pokémon view as a threat, like “Oh crap! The thing that causes some random Pokémon to fight me, make me sick, or knock me out which is something that makes it harder to survive in the wild so I’d better stay away”. Or if it’s like poison dart frogs where the bright colors show its got a special defense (explosion’s) which will severally injure any predators.
I always hated when we had to make what would have been one sentence into 5 sentences to make it a "full paragraph".
I like the MatPat picture that pops up on the screen at 11:44, after he says that it’s just a theory.
You just had to flash a pic of Mat Pat
is that the 1 frame thing at 11:44?
on the posessed pokeball theory, the explosions could be haunter's constant attempts at breaking out of the ball, hoping that by destroying the container, it'll finally be set free, only to wake up still inside it. no wonder it's always pissed.
Another topic is where did Gary get 10 badges in Kanto?
darkcloak100 One of them probably came from the young man in this picture: pbs.twimg.com/media/CHsrLeAUcAAgU3j.jpg:large
If you look closely, only like maybe 5 of them are official Kanto badges and one looks like it came from Taco Bell. It's established in the anime that there are unofficial gyms with unofficial badges.
A group of adventures walked into a bar.
The barkeeper asks, "Hey, why do you adventures always keep your weapons on you?"
One adventures smiles and says, "Mimics."
The barkeeper, adventures, and table burst into laughter.
damn it took me sooooooooooooo long time xD but seeing Matpat with that clowns nose was worth it 😁😂🤡👍
Gnoggin: It's an alchemy symbol, which is neato!
Me: Ah, yes, the four main phases of alchemy: Nigredo, albedo, rubedo, and neado!
he said it
he said the thing
I'm a biologist with an interest in ethology, and the "three pokeballs is even more enticing than one" bit reminded me of what's called a supernormal stimulus. Basically if the specific thing that generates a response (the stimulus) is exaggerated, the response will be exaggerated too, even if the stimulus is exaggerated to a degree that would never be seen in nature. A relevant example is with click beetles. They light up like fireflies, and are used to a green glow meaning a potential mate. There is fungus, much larger than the beetle, that glows the same color. The beetle sees a big green glow and thinks it has found a big healthy mate, so it goes to the fungus and ends up collecting/transporting its spores.
A more depressing example is with baby sea turtles, so you have been warned. When baby sea turtles hatch on the beach at night they know which way the water is because of the moon reflecting off the water, making the ocean brighter than the turtle's other surroundings, and so it goes to the light. Unfortunately, humans like beaches and have built large cities with many bright lights near the beach. Now when the turtles hatch, the brightest spot is the city. This causes them to go the wrong way, and many are eaten by predators or hit by cars.
Amoogoos? Oh they knew
3:26 Regarding this, I've always seen it like this. The pokemon doesn't actually faint or pass out, they just can't fight. They can still move, but they can't fight.
I need a Gnoggin Foongus T-shirt
Can we all agree that the Pokedex entries ARE actually written by us the players, the 10/11 YO trainers. That's why the Professors of each region tell us to complete the Dex, they supposedly need us fill it, so to the eyes of a 10/11 YO of course some things look extreme, like how hot Magcargo actually is and how many punches can Machamp throw. It's all because we the trainers fill it with that info/exaggerations, the Dex doesn't always state the true facts.
Hmm it very interesting to see why these Pokémon are shaped to be like pokeballs now!
Ya know... as angry as I get about content creators getting into a period where they do “what they must to keep their channel going,” Lockstin is one of the select few I give a pass to in that regard. Mostly because he’s honest about it and it happens to be about something that I like.
Wouldn't the creator of pokéballs use Pokémon for idea / design.🤔
Voltorb could be arceus, ultra necrozma, magikarp or even dunsparce because it is sopposodly a pokemon stuck in the pokeball and it got demented by sheer annoyance
If amoonguss meat pokeball
Pokeball : *SUS*
I like to believe that Voltorb are actually a form of UB as their dex entry said they just appeared from nowhere
Perhaps an ultra wormhole opened up, dropped a few into a Pokeball factory and they've been misclassified ever since
I find it odd that in lets go they flipped the mimic pokeballs upside down sort of killing the point of voltorb and electrode being mimics.
Nice editing at 10:58. Four scenes in 7 seconds, but there's a very smooth movement through all of them, including the video. Look good!
Amoonguss?
I like how voltorb is the pokemon take on the classic rpg enemy, the mimic. When you open a treasure chest in rpgs, a mimic pops out and attacks you. Voltorb is the pokemon version of that, and that's really cool!
Amoongguss lookin bit SUSY
Another idea is you can combine the theories of mimic and camo as Voltorb doesn't want to be disturbed by other pokemon, but it wants trainers to catch it and remove it from the dangerous wild.
A random Pokeball lying around keeps pokemon away but would attract trainers. A little more evidence towards this is it's stated as an in-universe theory that pokemon jump out of tall grass at you because they want to be caught. And this pokemon has even more reason to be kept out of the wild.
Maybe not the best theory but something to be considered.
Anyways, have a wonderful day! :)
What's the origin of your channel name? Just wondering
His name is *Lockstin* and he uses his *gnoggin*
The self-destruction move could be evolutionarily beneficial in the same way some hornet/wasps species lose their stringer and die - it might be a sacrifice for the group basically. Although voltorb's seems to self-destruct really often in the anime, so maybe i'm wrong
When the impostor is sus
Nice
Once, me and my D&D party ran into a wagon mimic, so, yes, they can be other things.
*A M O O N G U S S*
I think electrode should evolve based on which pokeball you have the most of, but it should only evolve into the main 3.