I bought this car, not to save the envoiroment but to enjoy it, dont care about consumption, thing is a beast 500hp and costs about 30 euro to charge a week, best car ive had in years!
Your are definitely saving down town with no smoke. Power plants are better than small engines at converting fuel to energy. ICE cars can't even run with solar, wind, nuke
Hi, indeed this is a very good looking car, and a also a "beast". May I ask you for that price (30€) do you charge it at a public station or do you charge at home? Thank you.
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The difference between ITAC on/off could be more significant, when driving not on a constant speed w/o much accelerations. More or less to keep the speed at 100km/h should have the same consumption independently of any setting (apart from AC, heating, etc.)
I haven't measured the 0-100 time without iTAC, that could be an interesting test. Generally in daily driving I won't notice much difference (but I also quite rarely do maximum accelerations)
@ElectricSeal-bq5wu if you could do a test like that, analyzing the 0-100 time and power peak, I think it would make a very nice video. Thanks for answering.
Temperature was 5-6 degrees. As it was 80% highway at 100 km/h with cruise control, I think 20.6 kWh/100km was reasonable. Not outstanding in any way, but not too high either.
Good question, haven’t really noticed any massive difference. Though haven’t been doing max accelerations too much either yet… but Sport vs. Eco makes a way bigger diff.
go to the home page and swipe left, you'll get the information you want about this trip.The consuption in 'new energy' only contains motor consumption, the whole consumption can only be found in screen i say above
Didn’t work for me unfortunately, maybe this software version is not yet available here. I’ve seen loads of features in China which are not yet available in Europe, perhaps this is one of those..?
Part 2 of this test is available here: ua-cam.com/video/n14bZcJ9eLY/v-deo.html . Pt2 uses Eco mode without iTAC, which is supposed to be more efficient. In this part 1 of the test the Sport mode was in use.
Onnea valinnasta, on kyllä hieno peli sekä designin että ajokokemuksen suhteen 👍 Ja oisit vaan pysähtynyt Leinelässä, et olisi ainoa joka on tullut juttelemaan autosta.. 😅
@@ElectricSeal-bq5wu then that's the wrong test to do. Eco mode, on itac off, turns off the front motor, which generates very positive results in range
I enjoyed your video but… to do a range and efficiency test, we need to understand the charging characteristics of Lifepo4 batteries. In short, the discharge (and charge) curve is extremely flat (it looks like a backs ‘s’ shape - non linear). There is almost no accurate way of knowing the batteries SOC between 90 and 10%. As a result, for your test to be vaguely valid you would need to do the following (assuming the cars BMS recalibrates itself on a full cycle (many do). 1) Charge to 100%. Discharge to 0% (or shutdown). 2) Charge to 100%. Now do your test. Ensure the test covers at least the 90% to 10% total capacity range because the voltage between these ranges is very small and changes in temperature can actually have a greater impact on measured voltage in the range. In short, saying you started on a 75% charge is meaningless (it may be 75% now and 79% tomorrow based on myriad factors and both these numbers are probably wrong by 10 to 30%) as the best the BMS can do at that SOC is guess. The BMS uses the total full to empty capacity and measures watts consumed over time to guesstimate a SOC.
Thanks for the detailed explanation - very insightful! I knew that my tests here were not "scientific", but hopefully roughly indicative despite the shortcuts taken. However, I need to say that I would expect the car to be able to report consumption much better than currently, as other LFP BEVs are able to do. Actually, I think the Seal has one of the worst implementations of consumption reporting in the infotainment software that I have encountered in electric cars (and I've driven quite a few). I really hope there will be improvements to it going forward. Compare to consumption reporting of e.g. Model Y RWD, which has the exact same BYD LFP battery, it's night and day, so the battery technology and the difficulty of calculating exact SOC cannot be the reason for insufficient consumption tracking by the car.
Ar least I am not worrying about any details, I’m just genuinely interested in them. 🙂 I’ve driven the last 5 years fully electric, and there is no going back for me.
I bought this car, not to save the envoiroment but to enjoy it, dont care about consumption, thing is a beast 500hp and costs about 30 euro to charge a week, best car ive had in years!
Your are definitely saving down town with no smoke.
Power plants are better than small engines at converting fuel to energy. ICE cars can't even run with solar, wind, nuke
Hi, indeed this is a very good looking car, and a also a "beast".
May I ask you for that price (30€) do you charge it at a public station or do you charge at home?
Thank you.
The difference between ITAC on/off could be more significant, when driving not on a constant speed w/o much accelerations. More or less to keep the speed at 100km/h should have the same consumption independently of any setting (apart from AC, heating, etc.)
I think you may be right about that. I was also thinking the same afterwards.
Lol didn't expect an explanation using an actual seal
Hope you liked it 😅
What about iTAC's impact on performance?
I haven't measured the 0-100 time without iTAC, that could be an interesting test. Generally in daily driving I won't notice much difference (but I also quite rarely do maximum accelerations)
@ElectricSeal-bq5wu if you could do a test like that, analyzing the 0-100 time and power peak, I think it would make a very nice video. Thanks for answering.
@ i’ll put it on the idea list. Unfortunately just switched to winter tyres, they are not quite optimal for that 0-100..
temperatura esterna? 20.6kw/100km mi sembra un consumo elevato, concordi? Con la volvo C40 single motor facevo la stessa media....
Temperature was 5-6 degrees. As it was 80% highway at 100 km/h with cruise control, I think 20.6 kWh/100km was reasonable. Not outstanding in any way, but not too high either.
Was there much difference on performance with iTAC off?
Good question, haven’t really noticed any massive difference. Though haven’t been doing max accelerations too much either yet… but Sport vs. Eco makes a way bigger diff.
did u broke ur front interior led?
Hmm, which led do you mean? I do hope I haven’t broken anything yet 😅
@@ElectricSeal-bq5wu the dashboard interior led.. i dont see it light up
@@moncimoov thanks, need to check that one
go to the home page and swipe left, you'll get the information you want about this trip.The consuption in 'new energy' only contains motor consumption, the whole consumption can only be found in screen i say above
Didn’t work for me unfortunately, maybe this software version is not yet available here. I’ve seen loads of features in China which are not yet available in Europe, perhaps this is one of those..?
Part 2 of this test is available here: ua-cam.com/video/n14bZcJ9eLY/v-deo.html . Pt2 uses Eco mode without iTAC, which is supposed to be more efficient. In this part 1 of the test the Sport mode was in use.
What model is this SEAL?
This is the Excellence AWD model.
Eilen ajoin leinelän aseman ohi, meinasin pysähtyä tulla tsekkaa autoa, on se hieno, itelle tulossa noin 3 viikonkuluttua valkoinen seal exelence
Onnea valinnasta, on kyllä hieno peli sekä designin että ajokokemuksen suhteen 👍 Ja oisit vaan pysähtynyt Leinelässä, et olisi ainoa joka on tullut juttelemaan autosta.. 😅
Is this in eco mode?
Sport mode, though I didn't do any rapid accelerations.
@@ElectricSeal-bq5wu then that's the wrong test to do. Eco mode, on itac off, turns off the front motor, which generates very positive results in range
@@fernandoscussel92 Oh, good to know! I'll make another test in Eco mode.
@@ElectricSeal-bq5wu thank you
@@fernandoscussel92 new video is out.. I am ordering a premium version 🎉
I enjoyed your video but… to do a range and efficiency test, we need to understand the charging characteristics of Lifepo4 batteries. In short, the discharge (and charge) curve is extremely flat (it looks like a backs ‘s’ shape - non linear). There is almost no accurate way of knowing the batteries SOC between 90 and 10%. As a result, for your test to be vaguely valid you would need to do the following (assuming the cars BMS recalibrates itself on a full cycle (many do). 1) Charge to 100%. Discharge to 0% (or shutdown). 2) Charge to 100%. Now do your test. Ensure the test covers at least the 90% to 10% total capacity range because the voltage between these ranges is very small and changes in temperature can actually have a greater impact on measured voltage in the range. In short, saying you started on a 75% charge is meaningless (it may be 75% now and 79% tomorrow based on myriad factors and both these numbers are probably wrong by 10 to 30%) as the best the BMS can do at that SOC is guess. The BMS uses the total full to empty capacity and measures watts consumed over time to guesstimate a SOC.
Thanks for the detailed explanation - very insightful! I knew that my tests here were not "scientific", but hopefully roughly indicative despite the shortcuts taken. However, I need to say that I would expect the car to be able to report consumption much better than currently, as other LFP BEVs are able to do. Actually, I think the Seal has one of the worst implementations of consumption reporting in the infotainment software that I have encountered in electric cars (and I've driven quite a few). I really hope there will be improvements to it going forward. Compare to consumption reporting of e.g. Model Y RWD, which has the exact same BYD LFP battery, it's night and day, so the battery technology and the difficulty of calculating exact SOC cannot be the reason for insufficient consumption tracking by the car.
such a waste of time having to worry about all those details... EVs are pure trash, jus get an ICE.
Yawn. ICE drivers cry when the price of gas goes up by ten cents, they drive for several blocks looking for cheaper gas 😂
@@ralfulrich6254 Not where I live
Ar least I am not worrying about any details, I’m just genuinely interested in them. 🙂
I’ve driven the last 5 years fully electric, and there is no going back for me.
You just have to look at the range and charging.. thats it
@@ralfulrich6254Gas in HK is US$2.68 a litre. Charging station rates in HK are all pretty much the same, US 30 cents kwh give or take 5 cents.