I gotta say, you basically salvaged what would have been awful situation for this owner. You getting this rig running (although not perfectly) is a still a massive win.
Man you've been buying hardware for your viewers on this series? And you're doing this for free? Greg you are so awesome man. Guys I know it's a business for him but come on he doesn't have to fix strangers pcs and give them upgrades when he can. Yes he makes money on it but that doesn't matter. In my eyes he's doing a great thing for his community.
He's awesome but the financial hit i dont think is a real thing. He does it free and can replace hardware because he gets the money back from making a video, running ads and getting 10s-100s of thousands of views. Its essentially like video content finds him as opposed to having to take time to come up with ideas everyday like some creators. I'm not bashing it just stating the facts.
Both you and TronixFix are like therapy. There's just something special about seeing good hardware get diagnosed and rescued, especially when it's for someone else. Great work.
If he feels he got ripped off he can call his bank and tell them to do a reverse on the payment, the seller might get ticked off and He could then come and fetch his garbage and learn a valuable lesson. There's a time limit on payments for shifty sellers and Ebay and most sites will back the buyer especially when a seller blocks them after registering a legit complaint. Great video!
Typically you pay with cash from Facebook marketplace. There are no online methods of payment, unless the seller agrees to an electronic form of payment like PayPal or Interac E-Transfer (if that even exists in the USA.)
That would be a good idea if paid with card or PayPal etc. However paying via Bank Transfer or Cash will likely result in not being successful in getting your money back. So someone put a half-defective CPU and an overheating GPU into a gaming rig... not great!
If he made a bank transfer to someone on facebook, the transaction is instant and the guy has his money. There's nothing the bank can do unless it's reported as a scam, and then if the bank agrees you weren't negligent or at fault in any way, Then they can refund you and try claw the money from where it went as long as it's a US account. If he paid cash, No hope whatsoever! But it's highly unlikely his bank will see this as anything but a chance he took because when you are buying from someone privately and upfront it's on you to make sure what you are buying is up to standard.
Thanks Greg ! This video comes in the right time for me. I had an issue with my graphic card (Rx480). Temperatures going up to 95C with fans at 100%. Yesterday i re-pasted the gpu correctly and just ran the Furmark test for 20 minutes. Looks like i did a good job following your instructions. Now temperature goes to 74C Max with fans at 56%. Thanks again for all your good advices ! Don't forget to re-paste your GPU once in a while, it really helps !
So glad he was able to help you. I've been gaming for 35+ years and it's always a good idea to re-paste at least once a year if you're doing heavy gaming.
This is hands down my favorite series over anything, ever. I’m talking I could spend hours watching all of these episodes except I have already binged all of them so I thank God he continues to come through for us! I got into PC gaming about 6 or so months ago. I got tired of limited FOV and performance and it took me a while, but I saved up and built my own PC with comfortable knowledge on what I was getting for my value, future proofing, and really was not nervous to put it together at all. All my learning would have never been possible without your channel my friend! Thanks for helping me find a new passion! I wish to do what you do in the future.. I just don’t know where I would start! You’re awesome man. I fully appreciate what you do for the community
Greg, definitely do a Patreon; I would happily support that. People like yourself, Jay and Kyle gave me enough knowledge and confidence via UA-cam videos to successfully build my own system for the first time about a year ago (and then one for my father-in-law) and your content still allows me to learn things I would never have thought of to troubleshoot PCs. Keep it up!
Dude already ride a ferrari, and you really want to give him money with a patreon ? jeez...some people are weird Yeah sure, it's cool you learned thing from him, but to the point of wanting to giving him money monthly ? that's just stupid.
@@claire6650 one could also argue against going to Starbucks for coffee daily when you could make it at home, or going out to eat instead of cooking... each person can support whomever they wish, however they wish... spend their money however they wish. Doesn't give you a right to be bitter that your own life choices didn't result in you having the same outcomes or opportunities.
Hello! Long-time viewer and big fan of your channel, here. For AMD graphics drivers, there are two alternative ways to get GPU drivers and settings off of the PC: - The "AMD Cleanup Utility" is the standalone version - A built-in version of the Cleanup Utility runs if you start the GPU driver installation and select "Factory Reset" (and for good measure, also uncheck "Keep Settings"). DDU doesn't always stay up to date with driver changes, and it's been especially wonky with AMD drivers in recent years. Keep on doing the good work!
Reminds me of S2E18 where the only problem with the GPU was the factory thermal paste not covering all the die, missing the lower 1/5 of it, and just repasting fixed the problem.
Nice to see another rig saved, your fix or flop videos have actually saved my own pc this week when my motherboard simply stopped working. I tried everything I could but it would not power on, after a little research it seemed the motherboard in question ( gigabyte ab350m gaming) has a bricking issue. I knew it wasn't ram or CPU as fans didn't even spin and I was able to test PSU on a second system. After purchasing a new board my system is back up and running, all I did with the old mb when it was last used it shut it down via the menu and left for a few days. It's a shame I couldn't send you the board to do some digging but I'm based in UK, anyway looking forward to your next video 👍👍
Very little paste is required to fill those microscopic gaps between metal and. It usually heats up and squished out to cover most of the die ok. Problem is if the mounting pressure isn’t even and one edge is lifted up slightly you will get that blank spot and like observed in this video it takes very little time for heat to sky rocket on these super high performance parts. Excellent video I love how educational this stuff can be to experienced and inexperienced pc builders.
I don't know why, but everytime I feel so satisfied and relaxed when watching your videos. Same as I feel when watching Cat and Andrew or Dawid Does Tech Stuff. Very nice to have those kind of channels on YT. Thx Greg for this ^^
If I had the extra funds, I would totally support a Patreon effort for this channel. This is one of the channels that helped me successfully rebuild my computer (an OEM machine) a few months back.
Congrats to the owner on you fixing that GPU. It's a pricey one to replace at the current moment. The memory issue is a bit of a bummer but can't have everything in life your way. I'm sure he'll eventually get it remedied anyway. Good job Greg as usual. :)
Always love the videos, it was awesome to meet you. Its too bad it wasnt under better circumstances 😅 excited to see my pc on the fix or flop series here in the coming weeks.
I think with a few giveaways of surplus to patreon members and maybe some extra videos, it would be definitely at least be worth considering. I am surprised you didn't test the Ryzen chip with another temporary setup to see if the dual channel still failed like you usually would, but at least you narrowed down the problem. I am glad to see you feeling better enough to post another fix or flop, and keep up the good work.
i think your the first person to explain more about thermal paste then it cools. can not recall anyone talking about it being a filler all i heard was it cooled down the chip. through i have run a chip for years without any paste back with windows xp. no major heat issues with that system so it go away without any.
My Ryzen 3900x has that same boot loop issue. I RMA'd it and AMD sent me an email today saying a replacement is on its way. I'm really curious to know what is happening to these Ryzen cpu's to cause this issue.
Thanks for the video. I had a very similar issue with my 6800XT except it took longer to power off. The issue turned out to be heat related. I tried re-pasting it and adding new thermal pads. Nothing worked until I water cooled it and the card has been rock solid ever since.
Even though the culprit of the card is improper thermal paste, I think you also need to check if it has custom vbios especially if it is a used graphics card that might once used for mining.
Have you tried disabling some of the cores on the Ryzen 9? That could possibly fix the bootloop issues. I had a very similar problem on my R5 1600 a while back and I disabled one of the cores, and it worked fine. It was a good solution to be able to use my computer until I could purchase a new chip. Loved the video! This series is always so interesting, and brings many issues I would never have thought of to light!
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 No, he could not start Windows, and he had the option to enter the bios. Disabling a couple of cores might make it work. I had that happen with an older phenom processor.
i found this video just by chance after i thought i was giving up. my pc is doing the exact same thing your R9 5900x is doing. i have been looking all over and asking everyone including geek squad and nobody had a clue what was wrong. will pop up preparing automatic update and that's all it will do. i tried everything including updated bios etc. im almost certain the cpu is the problem now. thank you so much for making this video. you definitely get my follow.
hate that he was scammed on Facebook Marketplace.....be more careful when you buy from this kind of place, test the components, and do trust no one! Thank Greg for helping the poor guy and fixing his GPU and providing the full fix for the PC owner. Love your series, watching all of them. Take care all of you!
There's always that risk on the marketplace but there's always the best deals to be had there. I bought my GTX 1060 6GB for £100 about 5 years ago as a quick replacement after my GTX 970 died on me and that badboy is still going strong today but I am now looking to upgrade and the marketplace again has some real good offers with RTX 3070's going for £240-£250... How can I say no to those? Lol
I love all your content but I especially love these videos; I feel like I've learned SO MUCH about PC troubleshooting just from watching you. I know how frustrating it is to have a problem and have genuinely no idea of how to fix it, so I thank you for the service you perform here as well as the hours and hours of entertainment you provide. Already looking forward to the next one (hopefully you won't have to replace another Ryzen CPU)!
I feel like this the second time you've found a failed mem controller or at least one of the channels on a Ryzen CPU. This time was Zen3 and I *think* last time was a 3000 series Zen2. I find it hard to believe these croak on their own and wonder if it's excessive heat or XMP profiles that push the controller too hard? Anyway, great job helping that guy. I don't like second hand components and especially complete systems unless they can be demonstrated functioning without issue. Good stuff Mr. Salazar! 💪👍
Probably auto voltage on motherboards pushing way too much voltage into the memory controller. Or in this case, since the cooler was clearly mounted loosely, maybe only one memory channel died a heat death (unlikely).
We do have a Patreon again - though I haven't committed all funds to FoF parts. We use proceeds to fund our Minecraft server as well as upcoming merch.
Just built my first pc (i5 12600K) since 2012 (i7 3770). Binge watching this dudes videos filled me with both a level of confidence but also complete fear and anxiety. Back in the day everything seemed to work. But back then youtube videos like this didn't exist. As a PC builder I'm not sure whether to view this guys videos as informative or as thriller/horror. Subscribed either way.
wow this episode is one of the best, showing that gpu thermal application is rlly important and also I had a 2600k that worked dual channel on a h61 board but didn't on a z79 guess my problem was just the motherboard
I had the same issue and swapped everything out except the cpu so far, added a + .025 offset voltage to the core and fixed my issues, seems like pbo is being too conservative or my chip is degrading either way yours may need more juice to stay stable
I bought a r9 280X a few years ago for normal used price, the seller described it as working. Well it worked, for a while. Only to overheat to 93° and shutting down. It was cleaned then with new thermal paste and ran a few degrees cooler but still kept crashing. Seems there was a overheating problem before I bought it.
oh man! you are doing this series for free and collecting money for repairs, you are so wholesome, you are between the best people in the world, you are as amazing as vettel or keanu!
I wonder if the tiny noctua cooler with a loose mount killed the memory controller? The 5800X runs pretty hot even with a 360mm AIO unless you undervolt it. If not it was most likely still throttling like hell while under load.
@@louiesatterwhite3885 No its the smaller Noctua NH-U9S with 90mm fan. I know ive had both of them in the past. And the PBO is on by default why would you turn it off and lose performance? Well in this case it mite be a good idea. 😁
@@j.p.h.8126 you don't lose much performance, especially if you have a poor cooling solution. I have a 5800x on a 240mm radiator, pbo on it boosts to 83°C under heavy load, while under the same load I have 53°C with a 3% performance loss, measured by cinebench r23. I am going to upgrade to a 360mm arctic liquid freezer ii aio with 6 noctua nf a12x25 fans in push+pull, but I've been away from my pc for a few months. Basically, PBO overclocks your cpu based on temperature, and you can change the max temperature that PBO will target in Ryzen Master.
Greg you are a shining beacon in the tech world and i cannot express how much of an absolutely amazing man you are! Bless you and your family and all the wonderful things you do for people. I wish i lived in florida just so i could come shake your hand sir! Thank you from so many people who need help!
@@crazzluz1702 It literally is true lmao. AMD is growing market share but intel still holds a demanding lead. Amongst niche enthusiasts you may be right but theres no way to actually quantify that and it only makes up a small percentage of users. Based on market share statistics however Intel wins hands down, and that can be proven.
I watch most videos 1.25 or 1.5x, screen off, just listening. But fix or flop? 1x, in front of the screen! Always something interesting, always a good story, always something to learn.
I would happily donate to a hardware fund, I don't join any creators on a per month cost for personal reasons but the idea of helping to get others a working PC makes me smile.
Really good video Greg ! Glad to see you saved another expensive GPU. Unfortunate about that 5800X, has me a little scared now but so far 6 months in daily use my 5800X still has no problems
With the 5900x, You should make a video delidding it because it could be that there is no contact between the dye and the IHS, causing it to overheat then shutdown.
These videos are very informative for someone was like me who knew nothing I think you for teaching me and others cos I can say from your videos I can and have confidently built diagnosed and fixed my pc on numerous occasions thanks Greg
The same ram issue happened with me, and after struggling for a long time all i needed to do was to tighten the AIO mount tighter for the cpu dual channel to work! And weirdly enough now it works perfectly. Yes just tightening the mounting screws worked for me cpu - 5800x ryzen 7 Ram - corsair rgb pro
I had this same issue with my 3070, the shop took it back to test it and sent a replacement immediately, spent hours troubleshooting and it was a brand new card as well. Thankfully it didnt take too long to get my setup going again
not all heroes wear capes but defiantly Sir. Salzar should, appreciate all the knowledge and experiences your sharing with us and narrowing the issues that we might have in the future and how to fix them. cheers sir. Salazar.
Amazing job Greg! I've learned so much from your videos that I've even learned to troubleshoot my own hardware problems! Truly amazing content, keep up the good work! ❤
Memory controllers dying in Ryzen seem like a common issue to me. In my experience it's caused by using the RAM Flex-mode. I had a 2700X die on me like that as well just recently. I'd recommend running single or dual-channel memory only. No flex mode with these. (Also check if your RAM is in the correct lanes as Greg pointed out.)
I didn't fully watch the video but i noticed at 5:15 to 5:18 the tempature on the GPU goes from 31c to 69c right after opening Furmark Its possible the graphics card is overheatting immeditaly causing it to shut down after a few seconds of running Furmark
I had a similar problem with my gaming rig and your diagnosed helped solved it for my PC. Wish I could ship it to you, but the tower is bigger then my night stand.
I upgraded from an RX580 to an RX5700XT and my PSU would kick out , it was an EVGA 600 watt so plenty powerful but they stood behind it and warrantied it with an even better PSU. I however replaced it with a Corsair 650 and havent had in issue since. Funny that it worked fine on the slightly less powerful RX580 .
Wattage isn't the only thing to consider with psus. Some are made with garbage components. Always check the psucultists tier list, and try not to buy anything below B tier
I had nearly identical issues with my CPU regarding dual channel, turned out all that I needed to do was a BIOS update and viola, that fixed my issues... wish I had tried this BEFORE buying another CPU thinking my cpu had a dead memory channel.
Could be a bios update needed, had same issue with my buddies computer. Ram only worked in one slot and would not post at all after bios update dual channel worked and his pc posted
I have exactly same GPU (2nd hand) and had same issue. Little bit of paste in the centre but no paste at the corners. Before re-paste I had core temp 102°C and 114°C hotspot running Time Spy Extreme. New thermal paste lowered temps to 76°C/94°C.
Hey Greg, I have had that same ram issue on my system when I had them in the right dual channel slots. I would get posting issues. The solution I discovered was to clean the memory with some alcohol. System posted after reseating them and haven't had any issues since.
Bought a Maxwell Titan X back in its day for like half price, used. I knew something was up with it at that price. I at least saw it running some games, and stuff, but seller made sure to not stress it too hard in front of me. I figured it was thermals. Bought it, took it home, loaded up a game at max settings, and thermals were through the roof. It had not been opened before, as stickers were intact. I took off the heatsink, and there was like zero thermal paste on the thing. I mean, practically nothing. Certainly worse than this one. Card was maybe 2 months old at the time, and so it came from the factory like that. It happens. Replaced thermal paste with some arctic, and it ran great for the next 3 years, and Rather cool actually.
Great job with the GPU, nice to see a real fix like this where you don't have to replace the component. It's also good that the "CPUs don't die" myth is finally dead. This threw me off a few years ago when my 4790k system would bootloop for minutes, or hours, before it POSTed. It seems like it needed more and more voltage to POST as timer went on. May have been because I once accidently set the voltage to 1.5v instead of 1.25v!
Subbed while I was drunk, slept and now I cant stop watchin becuase I'm trying to guess whats wrong. And you test everything viable I def hope you start gettin more funds becuase this is respect.
Wishing ya'll a very safe and Happy but spooky Halloween!
🎃*_BOO!!!_* . . . Happy Halloween to you too.🎃
wasn't quite a halloween upload in my time zone but i love your spirit :)
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I gotta say, you basically salvaged what would have been awful situation for this owner. You getting this rig running (although not perfectly) is a still a massive win.
Sometimes just getting the problem properly diagnosed is a huge fix !!
Can't agree more 🙂
This series is one of the few things on UA-cam I actually sit down to watch! Love fix or flop
Same! I love to learn
Same here 😁
Me too 👍👍👍
I watch a lot of tech tuber videos this is the most intriguing always coo9l to see how it will play out
Me too, every time I watch I pat myself on the back for not buying anything AMD !
Man you've been buying hardware for your viewers on this series? And you're doing this for free? Greg you are so awesome man.
Guys I know it's a business for him but come on he doesn't have to fix strangers pcs and give them upgrades when he can. Yes he makes money on it but that doesn't matter. In my eyes he's doing a great thing for his community.
The money he gets from UA-cam repays him and then some
@@robertomanfredi342 I know that but regardless of the fact, he takes the time out of his day to do this for random strangers for free.
@@robertomanfredi342 Plus he can deduct it from tax as business expenses.
Nothing bad about this, it's his business.
He's awesome but the financial hit i dont think is a real thing. He does it free and can replace hardware because he gets the money back from making a video, running ads and getting 10s-100s of thousands of views. Its essentially like video content finds him as opposed to having to take time to come up with ideas everyday like some creators. I'm not bashing it just stating the facts.
He doesn’t do it for free, the viewer gets a free service and Greg makes money. Good deal all round.
But, he isn’t doing it for free
Both you and TronixFix are like therapy.
There's just something special about seeing good hardware get diagnosed and rescued, especially when it's for someone else. Great work.
Thanks for watching!
If he feels he got ripped off he can call his bank and tell them to do a reverse on the payment, the seller might get ticked off and He could then come and fetch his garbage and learn a valuable lesson. There's a time limit on payments for shifty sellers and Ebay and most sites will back the buyer especially when a seller blocks them after registering a legit complaint. Great video!
Typically you pay with cash from Facebook marketplace. There are no online methods of payment, unless the seller agrees to an electronic form of payment like PayPal or Interac E-Transfer (if that even exists in the USA.)
That would be a good idea if paid with card or PayPal etc. However paying via Bank Transfer or Cash will likely result in not being successful in getting your money back.
So someone put a half-defective CPU and an overheating GPU into a gaming rig... not great!
If he made a bank transfer to someone on facebook, the transaction is instant and the guy has his money. There's nothing the bank can do unless it's reported as a scam, and then if the bank agrees you weren't negligent or at fault in any way, Then they can refund you and try claw the money from where it went as long as it's a US account. If he paid cash, No hope whatsoever! But it's highly unlikely his bank will see this as anything but a chance he took because when you are buying from someone privately and upfront it's on you to make sure what you are buying is up to standard.
Thanks Greg ! This video comes in the right time for me. I had an issue with my graphic card (Rx480). Temperatures going up to 95C with fans at 100%. Yesterday i re-pasted the gpu correctly and just ran the Furmark test for 20 minutes. Looks like i did a good job following your instructions. Now temperature goes to 74C Max with fans at 56%. Thanks again for all your good advices ! Don't forget to re-paste your GPU once in a while, it really helps !
So glad he was able to help you. I've been gaming for 35+ years and it's always a good idea to re-paste at least once a year if you're doing heavy gaming.
Hey I have an rx 580. I want to repaste my GPU as well but do you have any good tutorial I could work with?
great work fixing this for the guy Greg. really sucks he got scammed/blocked but its cool you can help him out!
This is hands down my favorite series over anything, ever. I’m talking I could spend hours watching all of these episodes except I have already binged all of them so I thank God he continues to come through for us! I got into PC gaming about 6 or so months ago. I got tired of limited FOV and performance and it took me a
while, but I saved up and built my own PC with comfortable knowledge on what I was getting for my value, future proofing, and really was not nervous to put it together at all. All my learning would have never been possible without your channel my friend! Thanks for helping me find a new passion!
I wish to do what you do in the future.. I just don’t know where I would start!
You’re awesome man. I fully appreciate what you do for the community
Greg, definitely do a Patreon; I would happily support that. People like yourself, Jay and Kyle gave me enough knowledge and confidence via UA-cam videos to successfully build my own system for the first time about a year ago (and then one for my father-in-law) and your content still allows me to learn things I would never have thought of to troubleshoot PCs.
Keep it up!
Dude already ride a ferrari, and you really want to give him money with a patreon ? jeez...some people are weird
Yeah sure, it's cool you learned thing from him, but to the point of wanting to giving him money monthly ? that's just stupid.
@@claire6650 sounds like someone is jealous they don't have a Ferrari...
@@claire6650 one could also argue against going to Starbucks for coffee daily when you could make it at home, or going out to eat instead of cooking... each person can support whomever they wish, however they wish... spend their money however they wish.
Doesn't give you a right to be bitter that your own life choices didn't result in you having the same outcomes or opportunities.
No matter the outcome I always love watching the Fix or Flop series. Thanks Greg, keep it going!
Greg, always a joy to watch these type of vids- best content style of any!
Hello! Long-time viewer and big fan of your channel, here. For AMD graphics drivers, there are two alternative ways to get GPU drivers and settings off of the PC:
- The "AMD Cleanup Utility" is the standalone version
- A built-in version of the Cleanup Utility runs if you start the GPU driver installation and select "Factory Reset" (and for good measure, also uncheck "Keep Settings").
DDU doesn't always stay up to date with driver changes, and it's been especially wonky with AMD drivers in recent years.
Keep on doing the good work!
Reminds me of S2E18 where the only problem with the GPU was the factory thermal paste not covering all the die, missing the lower 1/5 of it, and just repasting fixed the problem.
I fixed a PowerColor 5700 XT that was crashing. A small portion of the die wasn't covered. I repasted it and it runs like a champ again.
I just repasted an old rx 480 earlier today. It was soooo dry it was causing all sorts of issues in games. Now it's good as new. Well done, Greg
Nice to see another rig saved, your fix or flop videos have actually saved my own pc this week when my motherboard simply stopped working. I tried everything I could but it would not power on, after a little research it seemed the motherboard in question ( gigabyte ab350m gaming) has a bricking issue. I knew it wasn't ram or CPU as fans didn't even spin and I was able to test PSU on a second system. After purchasing a new board my system is back up and running, all I did with the old mb when it was last used it shut it down via the menu and left for a few days. It's a shame I couldn't send you the board to do some digging but I'm based in UK, anyway looking forward to your next video 👍👍
Very little paste is required to fill those microscopic gaps between metal and. It usually heats up and squished out to cover most of the die ok. Problem is if the mounting pressure isn’t even and one edge is lifted up slightly you will get that blank spot and like observed in this video it takes very little time for heat to sky rocket on these super high performance parts.
Excellent video I love how educational this stuff can be to experienced and inexperienced pc builders.
I don't know why, but everytime I feel so satisfied and relaxed when watching your videos. Same as I feel when watching Cat and Andrew or Dawid Does Tech Stuff. Very nice to have those kind of channels on YT. Thx Greg for this ^^
when you love this playlist so much that you knew the issue with the 5900x before he put it in the machine. good times man
love this series. so much to learn that you know will come in handy one day
If I had the extra funds, I would totally support a Patreon effort for this channel. This is one of the channels that helped me successfully rebuild my computer (an OEM machine) a few months back.
Congrats to the owner on you fixing that GPU. It's a pricey one to replace at the current moment. The memory issue is a bit of a bummer but can't have everything in life your way. I'm sure he'll eventually get it remedied anyway. Good job Greg as usual. :)
Always love the videos, it was awesome to meet you. Its too bad it wasnt under better circumstances 😅 excited to see my pc on the fix or flop series here in the coming weeks.
I think with a few giveaways of surplus to patreon members and maybe some extra videos, it would be definitely at least be worth considering.
I am surprised you didn't test the Ryzen chip with another temporary setup to see if the dual channel still failed like you usually would, but at least you narrowed down the problem. I am glad to see you feeling better enough to post another fix or flop, and keep up the good work.
i think your the first person to explain more about thermal paste then it cools. can not recall anyone talking about it being a filler all i heard was it cooled down the chip. through i have run a chip for years without any paste back with windows xp. no major heat issues with that system so it go away without any.
Don't ever do that again for the love of god lol 😂
My Ryzen 3900x has that same boot loop issue. I RMA'd it and AMD sent me an email today saying a replacement is on its way.
I'm really curious to know what is happening to these Ryzen cpu's to cause this issue.
I've noticed it also only seems to be a trend with Ryzen 9s as well, so maybe something specific to Ryzen 9s is the culprit.
Thanks for the video. I had a very similar issue with my 6800XT except it took longer to power off. The issue turned out to be heat related. I tried re-pasting it and adding new thermal pads. Nothing worked until I water cooled it and the card has been rock solid ever since.
Even though the culprit of the card is improper thermal paste, I think you also need to check if it has custom vbios especially if it is a used graphics card that might once used for mining.
I love the fix or flop series! always so fun to watch, just go into computers myself this year building my first rig and I really enjoy your content
Have you tried disabling some of the cores on the Ryzen 9? That could possibly fix the bootloop issues. I had a very similar problem on my R5 1600 a while back and I disabled one of the cores, and it worked fine. It was a good solution to be able to use my computer until I could purchase a new chip. Loved the video! This series is always so interesting, and brings many issues I would never have thought of to light!
Meanwhile, he's not even allowed to enter the BIOS, so he might have no possibility to check those options 🙄
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 No, he could not start Windows, and he had the option to enter the bios. Disabling a couple of cores might make it work. I had that happen with an older phenom processor.
i found this video just by chance after i thought i was giving up. my pc is doing the exact same thing your R9 5900x is doing. i have been looking all over and asking everyone including geek squad and nobody had a clue what was wrong. will pop up preparing automatic update and that's all it will do. i tried everything including updated bios etc. im almost certain the cpu is the problem now. thank you so much for making this video. you definitely get my follow.
hate that he was scammed on Facebook Marketplace.....be more careful when you buy from this kind of place, test the components, and do trust no one!
Thank Greg for helping the poor guy and fixing his GPU and providing the full fix for the PC owner. Love your series, watching all of them.
Take care all of you!
There's always that risk on the marketplace but there's always the best deals to be had there. I bought my GTX 1060 6GB for £100 about 5 years ago as a quick replacement after my GTX 970 died on me and that badboy is still going strong today but I am now looking to upgrade and the marketplace again has some real good offers with RTX 3070's going for £240-£250... How can I say no to those? Lol
Well if you think about it the seller got scammed. There was nothing wrong
Hi from an Aussie.... Easily one of the best Channels ( Liked and Subscribed )
I love all your content but I especially love these videos; I feel like I've learned SO MUCH about PC troubleshooting just from watching you. I know how frustrating it is to have a problem and have genuinely no idea of how to fix it, so I thank you for the service you perform here as well as the hours and hours of entertainment you provide. Already looking forward to the next one (hopefully you won't have to replace another Ryzen CPU)!
Awesome work, thank for helping out this fan!
and shame on the jerk who misrepresented this PC when selling it.
I feel like this the second time you've found a failed mem controller or at least one of the channels on a Ryzen CPU. This time was Zen3 and I *think* last time was a 3000 series Zen2. I find it hard to believe these croak on their own and wonder if it's excessive heat or XMP profiles that push the controller too hard? Anyway, great job helping that guy. I don't like second hand components and especially complete systems unless they can be demonstrated functioning without issue. Good stuff Mr. Salazar! 💪👍
Probably auto voltage on motherboards pushing way too much voltage into the memory controller. Or in this case, since the cooler was clearly mounted loosely, maybe only one memory channel died a heat death (unlikely).
OMG THE SEMPITERNAL VINYL IN THE BACKGROUND. I LOVE YOU GREG
Dude love these fix and flop series also thanks for helping out the folks, you're awesome.
Can't believe you've been buying parts for this series! You should definitely start a Patreon for parts
We do have a Patreon again - though I haven't committed all funds to FoF parts. We use proceeds to fund our Minecraft server as well as upcoming merch.
@@GregSalazar Good to know Greg. Love the channel man
Still solved the issue and saved his GPU. Thank you for teaching us. Happy Halloween.
Just built my first pc (i5 12600K) since 2012 (i7 3770). Binge watching this dudes videos filled me with both a level of confidence but also complete fear and anxiety. Back in the day everything seemed to work. But back then youtube videos like this didn't exist. As a PC builder I'm not sure whether to view this guys videos as informative or as thriller/horror. Subscribed either way.
Niceee
Man i love how you are figuring out ways to get paid yet still offer free services to people! Love you vids and can't wait for the next one as always!
Wow- I totally expected that graphics card to do the same exact thing after repasting it. Great job.
wow this episode is one of the best, showing that gpu thermal application is rlly important and also I had a 2600k that worked dual channel on a h61 board but didn't on a z79 guess my problem was just the motherboard
did u update the bios for the dual channel issue??!
18:20
that is the most perfectly drawn question mark I've ever seen
very very similar issue with my 5800x/3080. Swapped PSU, still does it under load randomly. I was thinking it might be the MOBO. Thanks Greg
I had the same issue and swapped everything out except the cpu so far, added a + .025 offset voltage to the core and fixed my issues, seems like pbo is being too conservative or my chip is degrading either way yours may need more juice to stay stable
@@kronicrelief8364 thanks man, I'll give that shot
I bought a r9 280X a few years ago for normal used price, the seller described it as working.
Well it worked, for a while. Only to overheat to 93° and shutting down.
It was cleaned then with new thermal paste and ran a few degrees cooler but still kept crashing. Seems there was a overheating problem before I bought it.
Well done on that GPU, Greg.
oh man! you are doing this series for free and collecting money for repairs, you are so wholesome, you are between the best people in the world, you are as amazing as vettel or keanu!
I wonder if the tiny noctua cooler with a loose mount killed the memory controller? The 5800X runs pretty hot even with a 360mm AIO unless you undervolt it.
If not it was most likely still throttling like hell while under load.
That's an NH-U12S. It's a fairly competent cooler, and the 5800x only runs hot if you have PBO on.
@@louiesatterwhite3885 No its the smaller Noctua NH-U9S with 90mm fan. I know ive had both of them in the past.
And the PBO is on by default why would you turn it off and lose performance? Well in this case it mite be a good idea. 😁
@@j.p.h.8126 you don't lose much performance, especially if you have a poor cooling solution. I have a 5800x on a 240mm radiator, pbo on it boosts to 83°C under heavy load, while under the same load I have 53°C with a 3% performance loss, measured by cinebench r23. I am going to upgrade to a 360mm arctic liquid freezer ii aio with 6 noctua nf a12x25 fans in push+pull, but I've been away from my pc for a few months. Basically, PBO overclocks your cpu based on temperature, and you can change the max temperature that PBO will target in Ryzen Master.
Greg you are a shining beacon in the tech world and i cannot express how much of an absolutely amazing man you are! Bless you and your family and all the wonderful things you do for people. I wish i lived in florida just so i could come shake your hand sir! Thank you from so many people who need help!
I dont know why but I feel very happy for owner of this PC
Oh that patreon idea sounds awesome dude! I'd 100% support that!
Great job with the GPU. Freaking crazy the amount of faulty Ryzen CPU's. Love the content, I'm always learning something.
I think the amount of Ryzen CPUs is just because of their popularity. You'd see more dead Intel CPUs if there were more Intel CPUs in rigs.
@@crazzluz1702 statistically there are far more intel systems than AMD systems.
@@RT-gaming that's literally not true. Amd has been far more popular among regular consumers for years.
@@crazzluz1702 It literally is true lmao. AMD is growing market share but intel still holds a demanding lead. Amongst niche enthusiasts you may be right but theres no way to actually quantify that and it only makes up a small percentage of users. Based on market share statistics however Intel wins hands down, and that can be proven.
really giving back to the community, love this
The previous owner really nearly tanked that pc to the ground
I watch most videos 1.25 or 1.5x, screen off, just listening. But fix or flop? 1x, in front of the screen! Always something interesting, always a good story, always something to learn.
Could it possibly be a BIOS version issue? It may be an older bios that does not support the combination of CPU/RAM.
This is gigabyte issue.
I would happily donate to a hardware fund, I don't join any creators on a per month cost for personal reasons but the idea of helping to get others a working PC makes me smile.
Really good video Greg ! Glad to see you saved another expensive GPU. Unfortunate about that 5800X, has me a little scared now but so far 6 months in daily use my 5800X still has no problems
I recommend undervolting it,the power settings on these are too high from the factory since it defaults to the same power draw as a 5900x.
@@ffwast thank you ! Will do
@@ffwast Agreed, same with the older 3600x, mine under auto boost was into crazy voltage, starting to think its a issue across the range.
@@somerandom7215 I don't mean auto boost,I mean the standard default specifications.
Yep. Undervolted my 5800x. Do it!
This is probably the single series that has taught me the most things about tech on UA-cam.
With the 5900x, You should make a video delidding it because it could be that there is no contact between the dye and the IHS, causing it to overheat then shutdown.
These videos are very informative for someone was like me who knew nothing I think you for teaching me and others cos I can say from your videos I can and have confidently built diagnosed and fixed my pc on numerous occasions thanks Greg
first woo
my pc was power cycling, thankfully I watch your vids and because of that I managed to fix it myself, thanks a lot king.
3:55 my friend had the same problem . super easy fix , upgrade the psu .
The same ram issue happened with me, and after struggling for a long time all i needed to do was to tighten the AIO mount tighter for the cpu dual channel to work! And weirdly enough now it works perfectly. Yes just tightening the mounting screws worked for me
cpu - 5800x ryzen 7
Ram - corsair rgb pro
One of the most informative series for teaching individuals on how to fix a broken PC! Keep it up Greg
Hi Greg
Never seem to have a broken Pc have the same twice. Always enjoy learning from you.
Love the framed Starset & BB vinyls on the wall, great bands.
I had this same issue with my 3070, the shop took it back to test it and sent a replacement immediately, spent hours troubleshooting and it was a brand new card as well. Thankfully it didnt take too long to get my setup going again
Very nice, atleast now he knows and changing the cpu is really easy.
not all heroes wear capes but defiantly Sir. Salzar should, appreciate all the knowledge and experiences your sharing with us and narrowing the issues that we might have in the future and how to fix them. cheers sir. Salazar.
19:50 Could a bent pin on the underside of the CPU cause the memory channel issue? (I kept hoping you would flip it over).
This is the series I never missed an episode. Big thumbs up Greg.
I enjoy whenever these come up in my recommendations. I wish I could just subscribe to a playlist of these!
Amazing job Greg! I've learned so much from your videos that I've even learned to troubleshoot my own hardware problems!
Truly amazing content, keep up the good work! ❤
Kind of messed up the original seller blocked the dude, nice to see you help this dude out :)
Memory controllers dying in Ryzen seem like a common issue to me. In my experience it's caused by using the RAM Flex-mode. I had a 2700X die on me like that as well just recently.
I'd recommend running single or dual-channel memory only. No flex mode with these. (Also check if your RAM is in the correct lanes as Greg pointed out.)
19:20 I had that symptom when trying to boot windows with a high cpu core ratio set in bios.
Maybe try downclocking it below its rated speed?
Nicely done. I had a Ryzen 7 2700 that also had a dead memory channel. Ran it in single channel for years, it was perfectly fine.
I didn't fully watch the video but i noticed at 5:15 to 5:18 the tempature on the GPU goes from 31c to 69c right after opening Furmark
Its possible the graphics card is overheatting immeditaly causing it to shut down after a few seconds of running Furmark
Thats awesome you were able to save that gpu, a lot of people would have just called it dead and done. Really good save
Greg, you're a really good guy. Just want you to know. Love your channel. Also that background music is so good.
Thanks!
I had a similar problem with my gaming rig and your diagnosed helped solved it for my PC. Wish I could ship it to you, but the tower is bigger then my night stand.
I upgraded from an RX580 to an RX5700XT and my PSU would kick out , it was an EVGA 600 watt so plenty powerful but they stood behind it and warrantied it with an even better PSU. I however replaced it with a Corsair 650 and havent had in issue since. Funny that it worked fine on the slightly less powerful RX580 .
Wattage isn't the only thing to consider with psus. Some are made with garbage components. Always check the psucultists tier list, and try not to buy anything below B tier
I had nearly identical issues with my CPU regarding dual channel, turned out all that I needed to do was a BIOS update and viola, that fixed my issues... wish I had tried this BEFORE buying another CPU thinking my cpu had a dead memory channel.
Could be a bios update needed, had same issue with my buddies computer. Ram only worked in one slot and would not post at all after bios update dual channel worked and his pc posted
I have exactly same GPU (2nd hand) and had same issue. Little bit of paste in the centre but no paste at the corners. Before re-paste I had core temp 102°C and 114°C hotspot running Time Spy Extreme. New thermal paste lowered temps to 76°C/94°C.
You’re amazing Greg!
Thoroughly enjoy this series.
Hey Greg, I have had that same ram issue on my system when I had them in the right dual channel slots. I would get posting issues. The solution I discovered was to clean the memory with some alcohol. System posted after reseating them and haven't had any issues since.
Amazing series, loved this episode! Keep up the amazing work, we are all learning from this.
Bought a Maxwell Titan X back in its day for like half price, used. I knew something was up with it at that price. I at least saw it running some games, and stuff, but seller made sure to not stress it too hard in front of me. I figured it was thermals.
Bought it, took it home, loaded up a game at max settings, and thermals were through the roof. It had not been opened before, as stickers were intact. I took off the heatsink, and there was like zero thermal paste on the thing. I mean, practically nothing. Certainly worse than this one.
Card was maybe 2 months old at the time, and so it came from the factory like that. It happens. Replaced thermal paste with some arctic, and it ran great for the next 3 years, and Rather cool actually.
Such a great series and you are such a good person for doing this. You are the man Greg.
Great job with the GPU, nice to see a real fix like this where you don't have to replace the component.
It's also good that the "CPUs don't die" myth is finally dead. This threw me off a few years ago when my 4790k system would bootloop for minutes, or hours, before it POSTed. It seems like it needed more and more voltage to POST as timer went on.
May have been because I once accidently set the voltage to 1.5v instead of 1.25v!
Subbed while I was drunk, slept and now I cant stop watchin becuase I'm trying to guess whats wrong. And you test everything viable I def hope you start gettin more funds becuase this is respect.
Stop drinking
You're the godfather Greg, never change!!!!