Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S5:E7
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Welcome to Fix or Flop! We're up to Season 5, Episode 7. This viewer's gaming PC is broken! Can it be fixed? By the way, if you live in the Orlando, FL area and have an issue with your PC, apply to have it (possibly) fixed for free today! gregsalazar.co...
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The ghost in Greg's house was kind enough not to turn off The Power strip this time.
This is a milestone for sure!
i have a feeling it was a new ghost that is more power strip friendly
He stayed at the old house!
😂😂😂
@@GregSalazar Hello I’m trying to get in touch with you because I recently got my pc taken I get back i found my old Gtx pny gtx970 so I put it in my and I realized it uses mini hdmi so I took it out and put my rx580 back in and now I’m not getting any display everything powers up i don’t what to do so I came to you as my last resort
Big ups to Be Quiet! for being so accommodating to content creators. I had no idea their marketing was as friendly, versatile, and unobtrusive as their products.
(This comment not sponsored by Be Quiet! or its affiliates...)
Have a be quiet psu and is working very well. Going to stay with them for now. Seasonic is off my list of recommended.
I too have several BeQuiet PSU's (and a few BeQuiet aircoolers too). They seem to be good.
I have two Corsair PSU's and they both "buzz" continously. It's supposed to be normal, I read, but I don't like it. No more Corsair for me.
@@ibizenco I had to RMA two Corsair units because they had terrible coil whine as soon as my GPU was loaded up. Thought it might be the GPU but swapping to an old EVGA PSU from another system had no issues. Ended up just getting a refund and buying a seasonic which worked perfectly.
That was my first and last time buying a corsair psu, which is a shame as they are usually well reviewed and this wasn't a low end unit either.
@@ibizenco 2 corsair psu here , never had a problem with them
Im not worried about your disclosures, I think you are trust worthy enough of all the viewers you have. I wouldn't doubt your honesty for a second, thanks for the videos!
There are quite a few honest content creators, but the disclosures are there so that there is no question about it...
Fix is flop is one of my favorite series
Hello fellow pc builders and fixers
Sup
I doubt poorly seated memory did any harm, and while there is no real way to know for sure I would lay the bad memory sticks on the supply failure and call it a day. After finding a bad power supply I just feel lucky when anything downstream still works. Great video!
Yeah I bet the power supply killed the fan controller or the rgb lights as well. It'd make sense. All in all not a bad fix though!
ive had PC's since i was a teen in the late 80's. And everytime a PSU died you just started parying. Since any component can die and it will shut of PC and rarely take anything down with it, a PSU that dies always seem to take one or more components along with it to its grave.
In this case with just the ram and that fan controller, i would consider myself lucky. A farcry from storage (m.2, ssd), CPU or GPU dying with the PSU. Or even a MoBo if its high end.
Apparently very recently, EVGA changed the pin-outs on their power supplies, on the same models. And if you use the cables from before the pin-outs changed (which there is ZERO indication of), it will send 12V to the 3V lines and fry things. The fact that the cables are not keyed to make this impossible is mind boggling. The connectors on the PSU end on modular power supplies are NOT standardized in any way.
That company seems to like shooting itself in the foot lately.
@@readycheddarThey didn't shoot themselves in the foot, they dodged a huge bullet not dealing with that HiPwr nonsense Nvidia was dishing out. They (As do all PSU companies) Specifically state to never use cables from another unit or brand to prevent these issues, if you do so then it's on you no one else, welcome to accountability.
Thanks for the heads up! This is definitely the kind of rookie mistake I would do if I ever had to replace my PSU. "Modular power supplies are so easy to install, I just have to replace the brick without replacing the cables!" would be the last thing my CPU hears before I blast it to the great beyond.
It's good to be reminded that "modular" does not mean "universal."
@@animalyze7120 Rossman did a vid on this the other day and it def is EVGA's issue here. Initially kicked off from someone discussing their RMA process. If you do an RMA, they specifically tell you not to send back the cables, but when they ship you the new unit, they dont include new ones or any sort of instructions to let the user know the old cables are not compatible.
So the user that got the new unit just assumed the old cables would work with the new unit since it was listed as the same model number and this ended up frying their drives. Was only after they called up EVGA again that the support guy on the other end told them that the pinouts got changed at some point in the product lifecycle.
Never understood people who buy these random PSU's with a brand label on it, when you could just buy a proper PSU from an actual OEM, like SeaSonic.
I got a bunch of old components from my cousin last year and decided to try out them together. I discovered your channel and went down your fix or flop series for weeks and finally had the courage to put it together.
It’s got an old 6th gen i5 and an rx580, I ran into crashes when I put load on the GPU. Found your GPU deep clean video and turns out it was old paste and a dirty heat sink causing thermal throttle.
Your channel is a godsend and has made me a pc nerd. It has been and still is a pleasure to learn with you all the way from South Africa🙏🏻
In one of my first builds, I put the RAM in then put the tower right-side up - all the RAM fell out because I was so worried about pushing too hard and breaking something. Honestly one of the strangest things to learn was that building a PC requires more force than you think!
I did the same with my first build
same! when I built mine I was so scared of putting even the tiniest amount of force on the parts because i thought they were super fragile (and obviously very expensive)😅
Especially with DDR5. I have friends that are experienced builders who were like really that hard and it's supposed to. Make that noise!
A lightning strike could account for multiple hardware failure. Especially if not on a surge protector. Ask me how I know 😮.
i've built a ton of pc's, for flipping, and honestly, the ram force varies from motherboard to motherboard (i've dealt with new and used motherboards, mostly used though)
some motherboards were "smooth" for installing ram in, and some felt like i would break the ram or the slot accidentally in order to slot it in 😅
Nothing better than a rainy Saturday to just watch a new pc fix vidddd love this series!
Yay! I appreciate it!
Thank you, Greg. I learn from you all the time.
That honesty about ad placement is honestly a breath of fresh air thank you! And I appreciate the fact you didn’t cut the misplaced ram stick issue out as some do. Another great upload 👍
Thanks for always being honest and upfront with sponsorships. FixOrFlop is always a good watch!
Its a good day when you upload
I appreciate that!
AMEN
After watching a Louis Rossman video about EVGA power supplies, seeing an EVGA power supply be the issue is...concerning.
The issue was definitely the power supply though.
Also at 14:15 - Fan 1 on the left hand side looks only half-way inserted into the connector on the PCB. I don't think that would change anything, but I did notice it.
Great job as always!
Great fix. It's worth emphasising that a faulty PSU can destroy any or all of the PC's components save the case.
Been binging this series past few days 💪
Thanks so much for the support!
Binge watching Season 5 here, this weekend. 😊
1:18 hence why this channel and this series exist! To teach the folks who does not know and want to learn how to troubleshoot your rig and find the cause. I am one of those people and boy I did learn a bunch since starting from season 2 of FoF Looking forward to sticking around here till the end of time! Keep it up guys!
Outside the RAM, they definitely did a decent job re-assembling the system for someone that's never built a PC.
"Oh yeah, I know nothing about PCs, but I went ahead and replaced the motherboard...twice"
@@scottyballz6447there's these things called tutorials
@@scottyballz6447 who said owner replaced it themselves twice? maybe got someone else to put it in?
Thank you lol, I did a lot of research before I did anything
@@IceWolf1102I did, just spent a lot of time dong research
Everyone was fully socked during the making of this video.
On all appendages? 😏
Nice work Greg. And kudos to the owner. Replacing a mboard twice and getting all the cables etc. in the right place, damn good work. DRAM not seated, can happen to even the best of us. I have never understood why they make it so hard to fit. Indeed I have bought a complete 2nd hand system JUST to avoid that kind of physically exerting type of connections. Yes I am that weak... now!
15:35 Blurring the pump screen makes me curious what's showing and why the viewers can't see it 🤫🤔😊
Yup I wonder what it is too.
I've seen enough PC repair videos to know it's most likely a picture of how to apply thermal paste.
You can see part of it at 17:07. It appears to be an anime girl, so I'm assuming there is too much showing.
That, or Greg just has no culture. 😆
@@Michael_mki233 Ah, I see Matthew is a man of culture as well. (Matthew is the owner of the PC)
@@zerozeroone001yea I’ve had my fair share of anime lmao
Your transparency says a lot about your ethical standards. It is a rare thing on UA-cam.
Try the LED switches on the frontpanel, they might just turn on
Yes I think that is why the RGB's aren't turnin on in the front. ;)
without completely watching the video PSU..... am i right now to watch the rest of the video
I just never get enough of this series, something about watching a PC start working is just so satisfying
So I've never used an EVGA PSU. But I feel Like PSUs are the one part where people end up "saving" money where I definitely would not skimp. A failed PSU can basically kill everything else.
I hope everyone finds this series, Thank you for going though everything every time. it really matters to people learning.
The mismatched RGB on the DRAM drove me nuts.
The 's' in 5Vs at 05:50 stands for stand-by. The motherboard requires the 5V standby to work in order to detect the power button being pressed.
Did you watch the video?
You da MAN GREG! Fixed mission Completed :)
Thank you for the disclosure of your agreement with be quiet.
After watching some of your videos I finally built my 1st gaming pc. Nothing fancy but it works. Love the videos keep up the great work
Congratulations. I wish you a pleasant time with your PC. And I hope it will never feature in a fix or flop video.
@@KillerTrap I live states away. It's nothing major. Ryzen5 5600g and rx6600
@@Loopygrain That's a solid system that that should last you years. But you've now been bitten by the build your own bug and will never be satisfied by a prebuilt again. LOL
@1300BlueStar that's actually what I started with. Hp victius had it about a year and was over it and just built me one
My dude got a mobo RMA and connected it correctly without any knowledge? I'm super impressed tbh
Kind of suspicious tbh lol😂. Bought a prebuilt because they didn't know anything about parts, but effectively rebuilt multiple times?
Same but at the same time.. Why not try the PSU?? Like come on man! lol No Power normally = power supply issue.
@@Killswitch1411 I think it shows that the guy actually said the truth. That he isn't savvy in pc building.
So hats off to the guy but you are right.
Just started the video and have gotten up to sponge bob reference. I would have thought faulty PSU first, back to vid.
Also there are gamers using e-machines (discontinued 2013, prebuilds that were terrible for the price- worse than Dell prebuild terrible in price/performance) to this day, an rx 580 is a luxury to many and AM3 is well and truly alive in the used market- there is no doubt the building community is still much smaller than it should be but that will largely be due to cost and console gamers not grasping that pc are superior. That is why we have you and GN and JTC etc.
Edit: Hell yes!!! 28 years building and fixing pcs I can say , nailed it! I appreciate you explaining product placement/agreements and it awesome, we would watch anyways. You have never once come off like an ad for tech-fluencing. I would worry long term any damage the faulty set up/psu (pinched cables?? That is bad) has caused. Obviously it hasn't blown any caps so that is good news.
Hi Greg, When I buy or repair a pre-built, a word pops into my brain: proprietary. If I suspect the PSU has gone South and I buy a new one, I affix small cardboard tags to the cables. I print the manufacturer's name, model number, and wattage on the tags and attach the tags to each of the included cables. By doing this, I assure myself that only the cables that came with the PSU are connected to that PSU. All PC owners should own a Power Supply Tester.
I love your business model, love how you are upfront
Greg gets a hunch and he is laser focused on it. Kudos for not editing the video and covering up your error.
I was set on the cpu being the problem, good to see that it was only psu and ram that was a need of replacment.
Always learn something from these videos :)
Looking forward to the next video :D
10:47 Don’t beat yourself over a bad DRAM seating Greg, I once took apart an entire build since my PC wasn’t powering on only to realize that the switch on the back of the power supply was off
ive finished the series now from Season 1 to season 5. ive been building pcs for 4-5 months and you have helped me insane amounts. i was able to diagnose my own pcs issues so i appreciate you. wish there was people like you in the uk!
Why not you?
@@rickmiller4202 doing my own pc and my family and friends is one thing, but random people like greg does is another, i dont have the funds to replace if i were to damage something. although i could build a pc there is definitly still more i can learn. maybe in 10 years or so Lol :P
@@anthonyking5035 I understand. Be well.
Extra thumbsup for the super upfront disclosure Greg
There was a few things you could try, 1 - follow the LED cable from that 3rd party unified rgb/fan controller, to see if it is plugged in the motherboards ARGB 3-PIN header. 2 - if you hold down the reset button it should switch between Aura and the controllers RGB pre-programmed rgb modes.(if it is wired for changing colour by pressing the reset button. Sometimes you need to select a colour theme in the Armoury Crate software. Cheers Greg!
OHHHHHH!!! Who lives in Orlando and fixes PC's? GREG SALAZAR!!!!
The beeping of the power supply tester scared the crap out of me. I thought it was my PC….
BeQuiet PSU's look so good in a sleek black build.
was wondering about if this a bios thing ... maybe a update causin this....
Too bad with basements in cases you can't actually view the psu.
@@mortimusmaximus1stnot true of all cases!
@@adamtajhassam9188 no, BIOS updates do not affect how BeQuiet PSUs look in a sleek black build.
BeQuiet is such a good company. A model for all component manufacturers out there.
My next PSU will definitely be BeQuiet!
Super dope to see someone honest and disclosing ads, most UA-camrs wouldn’t! Thanks for teaching me Greg
I will say I've learned so much from this channel in my last year and a half of owning a gaming pc. I hope this series never ends. also can't wait till you go back to microcenter in GA or maybe even if you decide to visit the new one in Charlotte in the future I would love to meet you brother!
I went with that same trident z neo ram kit and had the same problem. Switched to corsair kit and it's worked great since. Cheers.
This was a good one. Leaving a comment to bump the algorithm for him. lol
I built my wife a new PC and it worked when we put it together. After a month it just stopped and we came to find out it was because the motherboard was killed due to the AIO pressing on the CPU cable. We got her a new motherboard and took the fan off in that area so it wouldn’t press on the cables and we have not had another issue at all! These cases need to do a better job accounting for these factors.
I live out in the country ... lighting, brownouts, cme's ... I almost always check the power supply ... so many voltages, so critical for everything, so easy with a tester
5VS (5V standby, also called 5VSB) on the power supply absolutely must work for the system to power on. Since it gives standby power to the mainboard, which is needed for the mainboard to turn on the power supply and boot the system. This isn't like with AT (and older) power supplies and mainboards which used a latching switch.
I love building my own systems. Have been doing it for about 20 years now and have NEVER bout a pre-built PC. A friend gave me the basics of compatibility and I just took off from there lol. It's fun and personalized.
I sat there saying the whole time ,it's the CPU ,well it's never the CPU unless it's the CPU. Great job Greg ! Happy Day !
It's easy to see why the whole system was dead. It wasn't just any old 5V rail on the PSU that was broken. It was the 5Vsb (standby) rail. The board wasn't even receiving standby power.
THE POWER STRIP 😆 Always appreciate your tranparency Greg.
I had a computer that the RGB failed to light after installing two more fans. The wiring was good and the LED's would flash on power up but not stay lit. About a year ago, we updated the BIOS for another issue and BAM, all the RGB worked again. The BIOS update was the only change made and it worked. ASUS motherboard and AMD CPU with an RTX 3090 GPU.
My tip to get memory installation right: close the memory latch or latches WITHOUT installing the memory yet. Study the position the latches are in. They need to be in the EXACT SAME positions after you install the memory. If the latches make a 'click' sound when you close them without installing memory, they must make the same click sound when you close them after installing the memory. Any difference in latch position or sound when you install memory usually means you didn't properly install it.
I appreciate the Senna helmet in the background as well as the mysterious Yu-Gi-Oh! Cards on the table and walls.
For seeding things into the motherboard just reach over to the release lever and make sure its fully up. I cant imagine building a pc and going through the effort of seeking help without already 100x checking things like this. If my PC doesn't post i'm not gonna be able to sleep until I fix it.
The glare is much improved!
I purchased a G5 supernova last year and it died within the first week, RMA'd and Newegg had me a new one in a weeks time. Thankfully since then no issues fingers crossed..🤞
Running an EVGA G2 750W myself and still works like a charm :)
I'm with Greg about Pre builds
It's not as hard as everyone thinks building a PC just take your time and do research watch a lot of UA-cam building guides and never depend on a shop that may or may not be overcharging for work they did or didn't do
Missed opportunity to tell everyone the benefits of a good UPS to avoid issues like this. Great video as usual Greg.
A UPS will stop brownouts and power spikes but it won't keep a PSU from committing suicide. I've replaced a few PSU's over the years that have been plugged into good UPS's, fortunately the only downstream casualty has been a couple of HDDS and a really cheap multi IO card.
Faulty power supply’s can cause damage across the system that is why people shouldn’t cheap out on them. A good quality will have safeguards to protect components. Did the old psu kill the ram or not position right in socket.? Seeing the system is booting I would steer towards short circuit of the sticks not being installed correctly. Looks like that old psu did the job and protected the components.
Nice work. I bought an EVGA 600 watt PSU once, and the SATA and molex connectors were the cheapest things I had ever seen....they felt flimsy and fit poorly. I later bought a Corsair unit, and was really impressed with the quality---built like a brick
Corsair is king when it comes to PSU's. Also they clearly label the PSU cables with type of cable. And there is no problem finding out wich PSU's use wich cable types.
I am from India, and I try to troubleshoot pc problems with the help of your videos. Thanks man, You are such a lifesaver!
Glad to see you always diagnose the real cause and usually find it so fun and glad to see. Just wish to see the happy on there faces but I get why.
5VSB is the 5 Volt standby voltage needed for the initial start so if you don't have 5VSB the PC will never turn on and that's why the MOBO leds didn't light up, they are powered from the 5VSB.
For the front fan RGB, my cheapo controller would be able to switch off the front RGB so cycling through the RGB functions would turn it back on - maybe something to check in future if it comes up again 👌🏽
The Front RGB fans could be seperate and have a switch on the case to prevent them from lighting up. If you have the issue of sleeping while your case is going that can be a distraction. I did see the LED button on the case that could prevent the front RGBS on the fans from being turned on. Just a throught.
I would also check to ensure the LED cable from the fan hub is actually connected at the other end correctly. I did notice the Motherboard pin out on that hub had no cable so they can't be connected via the motherboard's software.
Pretty sure you’re correct on the PS taking out the hub for the leds . There should also be leds around the buttons on the case. Either way I truly enjoy your videos and I think it’s great that you’re helping others out and able to put food on the table. I’ve been building and trouble shooting computers for over 20 years and I sure wish UA-cam and content creating was popular back then . ❤
Hey, I'm a pc builder myself, I've been building quite a lot pc before. As my experience from building pc, gskill ram ( especially tridentz model to be specific), they tended to not work with ryzen cpu./ motherboard that well, if you receive the ram led, try to swap the ram that are in a2 to b2 and b2 back to a2, it might clear it out. If not just change it to different ram kit.
You need to mention that if you don't hear the distinct click/snap that the DRAM stick isn't fully seated. You will hear the sound and see the RAM clips seat.
Glad the viewer can game happily now. It was good of you to mention that it’s okay for people not to be computer savvy or things like that because not everyone has the same knowledge. Proud of the viewer for at least trying their best.
I hate that many case manufacturers don't allow enough clearance at the top of the case for an AIO. It's the best place to install the cooler, but it just doesn't fit in many cases. An extra half inch of height would solve the problem... but they just don't do it.
Shout out to be quiet! Very cool for them to supply parts for these projects. Their psu’s look very nice too!
Had a similar experience about month ago, PC just instantly shut down, would not restart, no LED's on at all. Tested the power supply and found it had failed, it also took out 4 sticks of Dominator DDR4, a WD Black nvme 1TB SSD and a Corsair Commander Hub. luckily all parts covered by warranty.
But did you find out what caused the PSU to fail? I would say a power surge would generally be the cause for most failures unless it is really old
@@johnt.848 It was plugged into a fairly high end APC UPS, nothing else had a problem and the UPS didn't detect a problem. PS was replaced under warranty and they reimbursed for the cost of damaged parts, they didn't provide an explanation of the failure. I haven't mentioned the manufacturer because I don't like to skew opinion based on one experience, but it was from a well known and reputable manufacturer and was less than six months old.
@@eteocles4452good to hear.
I dont know what u are doing different but your fix or flop series is the only one i like soo much and cant wait for the next episode 💪💪💪
Can't wait for this guy to receive his 1M subs, Much deserve! :D
now that you got the system to post I'm willing to bet the original ram would still work. Also could have plugged those fans into the other side of the hub to at least have tried something for the owner...
EVGA power supplies in my experience are good quality. However under the event of an electrical short like during a power outage or something, it will 100 percent kill itself to protect the rest of the components. Had the same thing happen and it took me days to figure out what was wrong because some days it wanted to power on and other times it was shot.
Man, am I glad that when my psu died. It only took my gpu over time. Still cost me a pretty penny, during the gpu crisis of all times. But atleast I didn't have to replace that much of my system.
It's been running fine ever since, for over a year.
props to this kid for his effort
Greg:
Did you try all 4 RAM slots by themselves to make sure one wasn't bad? Did you test his old RAM in another rig? Would it have been possible to move the proprietary RGB/Fan cables to different headers on the controller to test whether it was the controller or the fans themselves?
Can we just appreciate asus ? The fact that they actually helped and not like some others who ignore
The "no pun intended" 5:02 got me so good
probably a power surge in his home blew out the psu.
Thanks Be Quiet!
Speaking of the devil Louis Rossmann came out with a video about EVGA's PSUs lol
Dag, sometimes I get dizzy trying to figure some of this stuff while I watch. LOL. God bless you and the family.
Thanx a ton for the video Greg, I've been working like a dog all day and needed some good content to settle and relax to. See ya next time...
I ran into a similar issue when I was upgrading my ram kit on my x570 board. Turned out all I needed to do was reset the CMOS battery for my board to recognize the new ram kit
Great video as always. As for the front fan RGB i know this is a silly question but did you try pressing the LED button on the top of the case? They might have just been turned off lol
Greg, that Evga PSU might be actually working, it may just be the cables that are not working. Please check it out with an unsquished set of cables, unless I am missing something off camera.
You should’ve took the three fans that the RGB worked and put them in the front. And grab a black fan and put it in the back or whatever.
I found a bad PSU extension cables might have killed my new Corsair memory and then caused my PC to crash inconsistently. So be aware that if memory seems to die and the PC tends to reboot randomly with no BSOD errors logged it's something to do with the PSU.
I have the smaller version of this exact case. in addition to the boards rgb software, the front leds could also be controlled by the LED switch at the top of the case. but am willing to believe that the power supply might have partially killed that hub because of the bad power supply.