@@GregSalazar Hello I’m trying to get in touch with you because I recently got my pc taken I get back i found my old Gtx pny gtx970 so I put it in my and I realized it uses mini hdmi so I took it out and put my rx580 back in and now I’m not getting any display everything powers up i don’t what to do so I came to you as my last resort
Big ups to Be Quiet! for being so accommodating to content creators. I had no idea their marketing was as friendly, versatile, and unobtrusive as their products. (This comment not sponsored by Be Quiet! or its affiliates...)
I too have several BeQuiet PSU's (and a few BeQuiet aircoolers too). They seem to be good. I have two Corsair PSU's and they both "buzz" continously. It's supposed to be normal, I read, but I don't like it. No more Corsair for me.
@@ibizenco I had to RMA two Corsair units because they had terrible coil whine as soon as my GPU was loaded up. Thought it might be the GPU but swapping to an old EVGA PSU from another system had no issues. Ended up just getting a refund and buying a seasonic which worked perfectly. That was my first and last time buying a corsair psu, which is a shame as they are usually well reviewed and this wasn't a low end unit either.
I got a bunch of old components from my cousin last year and decided to try out them together. I discovered your channel and went down your fix or flop series for weeks and finally had the courage to put it together. It’s got an old 6th gen i5 and an rx580, I ran into crashes when I put load on the GPU. Found your GPU deep clean video and turns out it was old paste and a dirty heat sink causing thermal throttle. Your channel is a godsend and has made me a pc nerd. It has been and still is a pleasure to learn with you all the way from South Africa🙏🏻
Apparently very recently, EVGA changed the pin-outs on their power supplies, on the same models. And if you use the cables from before the pin-outs changed (which there is ZERO indication of), it will send 12V to the 3V lines and fry things. The fact that the cables are not keyed to make this impossible is mind boggling. The connectors on the PSU end on modular power supplies are NOT standardized in any way.
@@readycheddarThey didn't shoot themselves in the foot, they dodged a huge bullet not dealing with that HiPwr nonsense Nvidia was dishing out. They (As do all PSU companies) Specifically state to never use cables from another unit or brand to prevent these issues, if you do so then it's on you no one else, welcome to accountability.
Thanks for the heads up! This is definitely the kind of rookie mistake I would do if I ever had to replace my PSU. "Modular power supplies are so easy to install, I just have to replace the brick without replacing the cables!" would be the last thing my CPU hears before I blast it to the great beyond. It's good to be reminded that "modular" does not mean "universal."
@@animalyze7120 Rossman did a vid on this the other day and it def is EVGA's issue here. Initially kicked off from someone discussing their RMA process. If you do an RMA, they specifically tell you not to send back the cables, but when they ship you the new unit, they dont include new ones or any sort of instructions to let the user know the old cables are not compatible. So the user that got the new unit just assumed the old cables would work with the new unit since it was listed as the same model number and this ended up frying their drives. Was only after they called up EVGA again that the support guy on the other end told them that the pinouts got changed at some point in the product lifecycle.
I doubt poorly seated memory did any harm, and while there is no real way to know for sure I would lay the bad memory sticks on the supply failure and call it a day. After finding a bad power supply I just feel lucky when anything downstream still works. Great video!
ive had PC's since i was a teen in the late 80's. And everytime a PSU died you just started parying. Since any component can die and it will shut of PC and rarely take anything down with it, a PSU that dies always seem to take one or more components along with it to its grave. In this case with just the ram and that fan controller, i would consider myself lucky. A farcry from storage (m.2, ssd), CPU or GPU dying with the PSU. Or even a MoBo if its high end.
Im not worried about your disclosures, I think you are trust worthy enough of all the viewers you have. I wouldn't doubt your honesty for a second, thanks for the videos!
In one of my first builds, I put the RAM in then put the tower right-side up - all the RAM fell out because I was so worried about pushing too hard and breaking something. Honestly one of the strangest things to learn was that building a PC requires more force than you think!
same! when I built mine I was so scared of putting even the tiniest amount of force on the parts because i thought they were super fragile (and obviously very expensive)😅
i've built a ton of pc's, for flipping, and honestly, the ram force varies from motherboard to motherboard (i've dealt with new and used motherboards, mostly used though) some motherboards were "smooth" for installing ram in, and some felt like i would break the ram or the slot accidentally in order to slot it in 😅
1:18 hence why this channel and this series exist! To teach the folks who does not know and want to learn how to troubleshoot your rig and find the cause. I am one of those people and boy I did learn a bunch since starting from season 2 of FoF Looking forward to sticking around here till the end of time! Keep it up guys!
That honesty about ad placement is honestly a breath of fresh air thank you! And I appreciate the fact you didn’t cut the misplaced ram stick issue out as some do. Another great upload 👍
Nice work Greg. And kudos to the owner. Replacing a mboard twice and getting all the cables etc. in the right place, damn good work. DRAM not seated, can happen to even the best of us. I have never understood why they make it so hard to fit. Indeed I have bought a complete 2nd hand system JUST to avoid that kind of physically exerting type of connections. Yes I am that weak... now!
You just reminded me. My Evga 650 Gq 80+ gold 650w PSU I bought 9 years ago is still going strong. It's in my living room entertainment PC for music and videos. Latest build went for Corsair RM650x as I wanted a well rated quality PSU. BeQuiet pure wings 2 fans, RGB not a factor for me.
There was a few things you could try, 1 - follow the LED cable from that 3rd party unified rgb/fan controller, to see if it is plugged in the motherboards ARGB 3-PIN header. 2 - if you hold down the reset button it should switch between Aura and the controllers RGB pre-programmed rgb modes.(if it is wired for changing colour by pressing the reset button. Sometimes you need to select a colour theme in the Armoury Crate software. Cheers Greg!
In the past 38 years I've built many PC systems and I've bought a few from good SI when I just didn't have the time or desire to build it. I've always shopped around to make sure I'm getting a good deal on quality parts. Sometimes you can get the SI system for about $100 more and you don't have to deal with filling out all the warranty cards and you can get a 2-3 year warranty through the SI. That's when I find it's actually just fine to buy it pre built from them because you know what parts you're getting and they will fix any issues if you don't have the time to do it yourself. The lights on RGB fans do wear out over time. I've had to replace RGB fans once in a while so it's not a big deal. It also depends on the quality of the fans used by the SI.
Precisely. My previous job was 12 years of IT, so I was building systems professionally on the regular, and was pretty up to date with hardware. Then 2 years after leaving that job (now more software-based, malware analyst), my wife needed a new gaming system... I felt so far behind on hardware to have the energy to source separate parts. There had been two whole CPU generations, and well, you know the game of what GPU is best changes per day... So I found a good rated SI, paid their premium, and have had 0 issues with the system. I have several "car heads" for friends, but they wouldn't go telling me to build my own car. You buy a car and just want it to go vroom, so why not the same with a computer?
Because a LOT of SI will use B grade parts(refurbished) or OEM demo parts that they get on the cheap. When you buy systems from an SI you are NOT guaranteed to get new parts. And in fact are almost sure to get some parts taken from returned PC's@@Demonslay335
I was set on the cpu being the problem, good to see that it was only psu and ram that was a need of replacment. Always learn something from these videos :) Looking forward to the next video :D
10:47 Don’t beat yourself over a bad DRAM seating Greg, I once took apart an entire build since my PC wasn’t powering on only to realize that the switch on the back of the power supply was off
I will say I've learned so much from this channel in my last year and a half of owning a gaming pc. I hope this series never ends. also can't wait till you go back to microcenter in GA or maybe even if you decide to visit the new one in Charlotte in the future I would love to meet you brother!
After watching a Louis Rossman video about EVGA power supplies, seeing an EVGA power supply be the issue is...concerning. The issue was definitely the power supply though. Also at 14:15 - Fan 1 on the left hand side looks only half-way inserted into the connector on the PCB. I don't think that would change anything, but I did notice it. Great job as always!
Great video as always. As for the front fan RGB i know this is a silly question but did you try pressing the LED button on the top of the case? They might have just been turned off lol
Nice work. I bought an EVGA 600 watt PSU once, and the SATA and molex connectors were the cheapest things I had ever seen....they felt flimsy and fit poorly. I later bought a Corsair unit, and was really impressed with the quality---built like a brick
Corsair is king when it comes to PSU's. Also they clearly label the PSU cables with type of cable. And there is no problem finding out wich PSU's use wich cable types.
I did the same thing with the RAM on that board. The Video card to as well as it is a tight fit. Love those lights that tell you what is wrong. Or I would have been trying to figure it out for a while.
Hi Greg, When I buy or repair a pre-built, a word pops into my brain: proprietary. If I suspect the PSU has gone South and I buy a new one, I affix small cardboard tags to the cables. I print the manufacturer's name, model number, and wattage on the tags and attach the tags to each of the included cables. By doing this, I assure myself that only the cables that came with the PSU are connected to that PSU. All PC owners should own a Power Supply Tester.
The Front RGB fans could be seperate and have a switch on the case to prevent them from lighting up. If you have the issue of sleeping while your case is going that can be a distraction. I did see the LED button on the case that could prevent the front RGBS on the fans from being turned on. Just a throught.
I would also check to ensure the LED cable from the fan hub is actually connected at the other end correctly. I did notice the Motherboard pin out on that hub had no cable so they can't be connected via the motherboard's software.
Pretty sure you’re correct on the PS taking out the hub for the leds . There should also be leds around the buttons on the case. Either way I truly enjoy your videos and I think it’s great that you’re helping others out and able to put food on the table. I’ve been building and trouble shooting computers for over 20 years and I sure wish UA-cam and content creating was popular back then . ❤
Not related to this video but did you see the latest video from Louis Rossman? Involves EVGA power supply shenanigans. Apparently even between the same power supplies some power cables are not compatible between like models. Supposedly a user RMAd a power supply where one is instructed to NOT return the cables. Upon receiving a new identical power supply he killed like 3 drives by using the previous cables.
Modular PSU pin out differences is not isolated to EVGA, most if not all brands have different pin outs even between models or tiers. I wouldn't be surprised even if they changed pin out from a same PSU model between a v 1.0 and a v1.1 or a refresh. That's why all tech channels warn you to keep your modular cables together with your PSU or PSU box and don't mix and match ever unless you know what you're doing and know the pin out. JayzTwoCents fried a SATA drive because he misplaced a SATA modular cable from some other PSU into a Corsair PSU's box he used.
@@kamui004 remember that most brands don’t actually make their own psus. They just have different oems make them and slap their label. EVGA is notorious for changing vendors every time they change the model.
@@TheSjurisI know that most big brands have their PSUs made by OEMs like GreatWall, SuperFlower or Silverstone and so on. That's why I said I wouldn't be surprised the pin out changes even with the same model if they do a v1.0 to v1.1, refresh or /sigh changed OEM.
@@kamui004 usually 1.0 to 1.1 is different parts in the psu. EVGA changes vendors on every single psu model. It’s why you’re never supposed to use the old cables on new psus. It’s also why I usually use Seasonic since they make their own psus and supply them to others.
@@kamui004 You're absolutely right. However, as Rossman pointed out, EVGA *specifically* instruct people returning PSUs under a RMA to *keep* their cables, because the company will *NOT* provide new ones. Nor do they give any indication that the pins might have changed on the replacement unit. So what are people supposed to do?
@@Loopygrain That's a solid system that that should last you years. But you've now been bitten by the build your own bug and will never be satisfied by a prebuilt again. LOL
I purchased a G5 supernova last year and it died within the first week, RMA'd and Newegg had me a new one in a weeks time. Thankfully since then no issues fingers crossed..🤞
Faulty power supply’s can cause damage across the system that is why people shouldn’t cheap out on them. A good quality will have safeguards to protect components. Did the old psu kill the ram or not position right in socket.? Seeing the system is booting I would steer towards short circuit of the sticks not being installed correctly. Looks like that old psu did the job and protected the components.
Hey, I'm a pc builder myself, I've been building quite a lot pc before. As my experience from building pc, gskill ram ( especially tridentz model to be specific), they tended to not work with ryzen cpu./ motherboard that well, if you receive the ram led, try to swap the ram that are in a2 to b2 and b2 back to a2, it might clear it out. If not just change it to different ram kit.
I live out in the country ... lighting, brownouts, cme's ... I almost always check the power supply ... so many voltages, so critical for everything, so easy with a tester
ive finished the series now from Season 1 to season 5. ive been building pcs for 4-5 months and you have helped me insane amounts. i was able to diagnose my own pcs issues so i appreciate you. wish there was people like you in the uk!
@@rickmiller4202 doing my own pc and my family and friends is one thing, but random people like greg does is another, i dont have the funds to replace if i were to damage something. although i could build a pc there is definitly still more i can learn. maybe in 10 years or so Lol :P
I had a computer that the RGB failed to light after installing two more fans. The wiring was good and the LED's would flash on power up but not stay lit. About a year ago, we updated the BIOS for another issue and BAM, all the RGB worked again. The BIOS update was the only change made and it worked. ASUS motherboard and AMD CPU with an RTX 3090 GPU.
My tip to get memory installation right: close the memory latch or latches WITHOUT installing the memory yet. Study the position the latches are in. They need to be in the EXACT SAME positions after you install the memory. If the latches make a 'click' sound when you close them without installing memory, they must make the same click sound when you close them after installing the memory. Any difference in latch position or sound when you install memory usually means you didn't properly install it.
5VS (5V standby, also called 5VSB) on the power supply absolutely must work for the system to power on. Since it gives standby power to the mainboard, which is needed for the mainboard to turn on the power supply and boot the system. This isn't like with AT (and older) power supplies and mainboards which used a latching switch.
Since you said we should..... I had an evga G2 850 watt die... albeit after using it in 3 pcs over 8 years, and when it died i kind of confirmed (or am very convinced) that the socket it was plugged into was drawing current from a line shared with a refrigerator in another room, so it probly tripped a few times without me knowing before dying completely.
I had that same exact PSU on Odin (yes, I name my BYOPC... sue me) and due to a power surge and a power strip choice error on my end, the EVGA G5 bit the dust although it protected the other components. I got another EVGA PSU, but it was the 850W Platinum version (Supernova P5) and the Platinum one has served me well to this day - and before anyone asks, the GPU tied to is is the RTX 3070TI.
Great video. I totally agree i would have started with power supply. Logical. Also, love the wristwatch. Is that a Datejust? I have been eyeing them for years.
I love building my own systems. Have been doing it for about 20 years now and have NEVER bout a pre-built PC. A friend gave me the basics of compatibility and I just took off from there lol. It's fun and personalized.
So I've never used an EVGA PSU. But I feel Like PSUs are the one part where people end up "saving" money where I definitely would not skimp. A failed PSU can basically kill everything else.
Had a similar experience about month ago, PC just instantly shut down, would not restart, no LED's on at all. Tested the power supply and found it had failed, it also took out 4 sticks of Dominator DDR4, a WD Black nvme 1TB SSD and a Corsair Commander Hub. luckily all parts covered by warranty.
@@johnt.848 It was plugged into a fairly high end APC UPS, nothing else had a problem and the UPS didn't detect a problem. PS was replaced under warranty and they reimbursed for the cost of damaged parts, they didn't provide an explanation of the failure. I haven't mentioned the manufacturer because I don't like to skew opinion based on one experience, but it was from a well known and reputable manufacturer and was less than six months old.
I'm with Greg about Pre builds It's not as hard as everyone thinks building a PC just take your time and do research watch a lot of UA-cam building guides and never depend on a shop that may or may not be overcharging for work they did or didn't do
I bought 2 identical cases with front LED fans. One I leave the LEDs off all the time and the front panel switch still works with it. The other I would occasionally change the color on the LED. The one I changed the colors on the LEDs won't turn on now. Checked the wiring on both and and considered getting a new controller board. (No problems on either computer other than the one has no LEDs on front fans.) Since he didn't replace the controller board I am not going to do so as well.
Great video. As for the BeQuite PSU failing - curious as to who the OEM for the BeQuite PSU's are. Both the PSU and Ram being bad at the same time is just bad luck of the worst kind.
Haven't had issues with EVGA power supplies myself. I have them in all 5 of my computers in my home. The only one I've had die was one that was plugged directly into the wall with no protection and got fried from storm. Old 1960s home with subpar wiring and old original outlets. New power supply and a good quality UPS in line and no more problems.
A UPS will stop brownouts and power spikes but it won't keep a PSU from committing suicide. I've replaced a few PSU's over the years that have been plugged into good UPS's, fortunately the only downstream casualty has been a couple of HDDS and a really cheap multi IO card.
Great video as always! I've been noticing your watches a lot more lately. You seem to have a pretty cool collection. Can't go wrong with the Tiffany blue on a jubilee bracelet
Hey Greg! I am really enjoying your channel! It has taught me quite a bit about computers. I am interested in learning more about building my own. Unfortunately, my time is a bit limited to dedicate myself to a classroom or any instructional facility. This is probably about as rookie a question out there, but are there any books you would recommend that could point me in the right direction? I learn best from reading, (and watching your channel ;) ). Thank you for your time with all of the great videos! All the best!
Random question, when you were testing the EVGA power supply, the fan lights were on in the background. Don't doubt that the power supply was bad, but how come the fan lights didn't come on when you initially turned it on, but came on when you were testing it?
Love the show. I looked up the Passmark tester but at $600+ is way too much for my budget. Would be great if you could have a list of cheaper testing tools and software that you recommend for computer techs starting out. I have followed your example and volunteer with computer repairs and upgrades in the Brevard NC area.
I have the smaller version of this exact case. in addition to the boards rgb software, the front leds could also be controlled by the LED switch at the top of the case. but am willing to believe that the power supply might have partially killed that hub because of the bad power supply.
This video reminds me of some light I have on my motherboard, I'm not sure why it's there but it's useful if my pc breaks in some way, a point to see if the motherboard gets power.
I had an issue with an EVGA G6 1000 watt that would make the PC randomly shut off while gaming and would refuse to turn back on until I would cycle the switch on the back of the PSU. I figured it had something to do with transient spikes from the 4090 despite the fact that I undervolted it and the rest of the PC isn't power hungry at all with the 7800x3d. I also had a fair amount of coil whine from the GPU with that PSU and after switching to the FSP Hydro PTM X 1000 I've never had another shutdown and the coil whine is completely gone. EVGA did replace the G6 with a brand new G7 1000 but I have yet to use it, I just will keep it as a backup.
ALWAYS sucks when there are multiple issues found in a build. Especially when you went through two RMA'd MBs. smh I havent had issues with EVGA psu's. Been using them for years. But a failed psu does happen unfortunately. Did you try plugging the fans on the hub to the other headers just to see if they got taken out by the issue as well? Thanks for vid!
Sounds like a short somewhere. I'm not a computer expert by any means but I used PC part picker to put together a compatible build, bought the components and did it myself and it works better than any of the pre-configured or custom PCs that I've ever had. And believe you me. I got enough SD drives in there to never get one fried. Hee hee! Honestly, it's not as intimidating as it may seem. I've had so many problems from every pre-built PC I've had and doing it yourself saves you a lot of stress.
I ran into a similar issue when I was upgrading my ram kit on my x570 board. Turned out all I needed to do was reset the CMOS battery for my board to recognize the new ram kit
14:14 - the LED switch - is that connected to a button on the case? It doesn't look like the motherboard connector (top right of the board) is plugged in, so it's likely not getting any RBG signal from the motherboard.
I knew it was gonna be (at least in part) a bad PSU after he described the issue. Had my brand new build die 4 days into use. Same symptoms. Troubleshooting revealed dead PSU. Replaced it and luckily all the PSU took with it was the RAM (seems like same thing happened here) which I was replacing with a different kit anyway.
The ghost in Greg's house was kind enough not to turn off The Power strip this time.
This is a milestone for sure!
i have a feeling it was a new ghost that is more power strip friendly
He stayed at the old house!
😂😂😂
@@GregSalazar Hello I’m trying to get in touch with you because I recently got my pc taken I get back i found my old Gtx pny gtx970 so I put it in my and I realized it uses mini hdmi so I took it out and put my rx580 back in and now I’m not getting any display everything powers up i don’t what to do so I came to you as my last resort
Big ups to Be Quiet! for being so accommodating to content creators. I had no idea their marketing was as friendly, versatile, and unobtrusive as their products.
(This comment not sponsored by Be Quiet! or its affiliates...)
Have a be quiet psu and is working very well. Going to stay with them for now. Seasonic is off my list of recommended.
I too have several BeQuiet PSU's (and a few BeQuiet aircoolers too). They seem to be good.
I have two Corsair PSU's and they both "buzz" continously. It's supposed to be normal, I read, but I don't like it. No more Corsair for me.
@@ibizenco I had to RMA two Corsair units because they had terrible coil whine as soon as my GPU was loaded up. Thought it might be the GPU but swapping to an old EVGA PSU from another system had no issues. Ended up just getting a refund and buying a seasonic which worked perfectly.
That was my first and last time buying a corsair psu, which is a shame as they are usually well reviewed and this wasn't a low end unit either.
@@ibizenco 2 corsair psu here , never had a problem with them
I got a bunch of old components from my cousin last year and decided to try out them together. I discovered your channel and went down your fix or flop series for weeks and finally had the courage to put it together.
It’s got an old 6th gen i5 and an rx580, I ran into crashes when I put load on the GPU. Found your GPU deep clean video and turns out it was old paste and a dirty heat sink causing thermal throttle.
Your channel is a godsend and has made me a pc nerd. It has been and still is a pleasure to learn with you all the way from South Africa🙏🏻
Apparently very recently, EVGA changed the pin-outs on their power supplies, on the same models. And if you use the cables from before the pin-outs changed (which there is ZERO indication of), it will send 12V to the 3V lines and fry things. The fact that the cables are not keyed to make this impossible is mind boggling. The connectors on the PSU end on modular power supplies are NOT standardized in any way.
That company seems to like shooting itself in the foot lately.
@@readycheddarThey didn't shoot themselves in the foot, they dodged a huge bullet not dealing with that HiPwr nonsense Nvidia was dishing out. They (As do all PSU companies) Specifically state to never use cables from another unit or brand to prevent these issues, if you do so then it's on you no one else, welcome to accountability.
Thanks for the heads up! This is definitely the kind of rookie mistake I would do if I ever had to replace my PSU. "Modular power supplies are so easy to install, I just have to replace the brick without replacing the cables!" would be the last thing my CPU hears before I blast it to the great beyond.
It's good to be reminded that "modular" does not mean "universal."
@@animalyze7120 Rossman did a vid on this the other day and it def is EVGA's issue here. Initially kicked off from someone discussing their RMA process. If you do an RMA, they specifically tell you not to send back the cables, but when they ship you the new unit, they dont include new ones or any sort of instructions to let the user know the old cables are not compatible.
So the user that got the new unit just assumed the old cables would work with the new unit since it was listed as the same model number and this ended up frying their drives. Was only after they called up EVGA again that the support guy on the other end told them that the pinouts got changed at some point in the product lifecycle.
Never understood people who buy these random PSU's with a brand label on it, when you could just buy a proper PSU from an actual OEM, like SeaSonic.
I doubt poorly seated memory did any harm, and while there is no real way to know for sure I would lay the bad memory sticks on the supply failure and call it a day. After finding a bad power supply I just feel lucky when anything downstream still works. Great video!
Yeah I bet the power supply killed the fan controller or the rgb lights as well. It'd make sense. All in all not a bad fix though!
ive had PC's since i was a teen in the late 80's. And everytime a PSU died you just started parying. Since any component can die and it will shut of PC and rarely take anything down with it, a PSU that dies always seem to take one or more components along with it to its grave.
In this case with just the ram and that fan controller, i would consider myself lucky. A farcry from storage (m.2, ssd), CPU or GPU dying with the PSU. Or even a MoBo if its high end.
Im not worried about your disclosures, I think you are trust worthy enough of all the viewers you have. I wouldn't doubt your honesty for a second, thanks for the videos!
There are quite a few honest content creators, but the disclosures are there so that there is no question about it...
Fix is flop is one of my favorite series
Hello fellow pc builders and fixers
Sup
In one of my first builds, I put the RAM in then put the tower right-side up - all the RAM fell out because I was so worried about pushing too hard and breaking something. Honestly one of the strangest things to learn was that building a PC requires more force than you think!
I did the same with my first build
same! when I built mine I was so scared of putting even the tiniest amount of force on the parts because i thought they were super fragile (and obviously very expensive)😅
Especially with DDR5. I have friends that are experienced builders who were like really that hard and it's supposed to. Make that noise!
A lightning strike could account for multiple hardware failure. Especially if not on a surge protector. Ask me how I know 😮.
i've built a ton of pc's, for flipping, and honestly, the ram force varies from motherboard to motherboard (i've dealt with new and used motherboards, mostly used though)
some motherboards were "smooth" for installing ram in, and some felt like i would break the ram or the slot accidentally in order to slot it in 😅
1:18 hence why this channel and this series exist! To teach the folks who does not know and want to learn how to troubleshoot your rig and find the cause. I am one of those people and boy I did learn a bunch since starting from season 2 of FoF Looking forward to sticking around here till the end of time! Keep it up guys!
That honesty about ad placement is honestly a breath of fresh air thank you! And I appreciate the fact you didn’t cut the misplaced ram stick issue out as some do. Another great upload 👍
Thanks for always being honest and upfront with sponsorships. FixOrFlop is always a good watch!
Nothing better than a rainy Saturday to just watch a new pc fix vidddd love this series!
Yay! I appreciate it!
Thank you, Greg. I learn from you all the time.
Nice work Greg. And kudos to the owner. Replacing a mboard twice and getting all the cables etc. in the right place, damn good work. DRAM not seated, can happen to even the best of us. I have never understood why they make it so hard to fit. Indeed I have bought a complete 2nd hand system JUST to avoid that kind of physically exerting type of connections. Yes I am that weak... now!
Its a good day when you upload
I appreciate that!
AMEN
Great fix. It's worth emphasising that a faulty PSU can destroy any or all of the PC's components save the case.
15:35 Blurring the pump screen makes me curious what's showing and why the viewers can't see it 🤫🤔😊
Yup I wonder what it is too.
I've seen enough PC repair videos to know it's most likely a picture of how to apply thermal paste.
You can see part of it at 17:07. It appears to be an anime girl, so I'm assuming there is too much showing.
That, or Greg just has no culture. 😆
@@Michael_mki233 Ah, I see Matthew is a man of culture as well. (Matthew is the owner of the PC)
@@zero.zero.one.001yea I’ve had my fair share of anime lmao
I hope everyone finds this series, Thank you for going though everything every time. it really matters to people learning.
You just reminded me. My Evga 650 Gq 80+ gold 650w PSU I bought 9 years ago is still going strong. It's in my living room entertainment PC for music and videos.
Latest build went for Corsair RM650x as I wanted a well rated quality PSU. BeQuiet pure wings 2 fans, RGB not a factor for me.
Been binging this series past few days 💪
Thanks so much for the support!
Binge watching Season 5 here, this weekend. 😊
Did you push the LED button on the front I/O of the case? It could just be turned off.
I went with that same trident z neo ram kit and had the same problem. Switched to corsair kit and it's worked great since. Cheers.
There was a few things you could try, 1 - follow the LED cable from that 3rd party unified rgb/fan controller, to see if it is plugged in the motherboards ARGB 3-PIN header. 2 - if you hold down the reset button it should switch between Aura and the controllers RGB pre-programmed rgb modes.(if it is wired for changing colour by pressing the reset button. Sometimes you need to select a colour theme in the Armoury Crate software. Cheers Greg!
Another killer video Greg. Also, love your honest disclosure. You are among the tech UA-camrs I trust because you clearly disclose sponsorships.
In the past 38 years I've built many PC systems and I've bought a few from good SI when I just didn't have the time or desire to build it. I've always shopped around to make sure I'm getting a good deal on quality parts. Sometimes you can get the SI system for about $100 more and you don't have to deal with filling out all the warranty cards and you can get a 2-3 year warranty through the SI. That's when I find it's actually just fine to buy it pre built from them because you know what parts you're getting and they will fix any issues if you don't have the time to do it yourself.
The lights on RGB fans do wear out over time. I've had to replace RGB fans once in a while so it's not a big deal. It also depends on the quality of the fans used by the SI.
Precisely. My previous job was 12 years of IT, so I was building systems professionally on the regular, and was pretty up to date with hardware. Then 2 years after leaving that job (now more software-based, malware analyst), my wife needed a new gaming system... I felt so far behind on hardware to have the energy to source separate parts. There had been two whole CPU generations, and well, you know the game of what GPU is best changes per day... So I found a good rated SI, paid their premium, and have had 0 issues with the system.
I have several "car heads" for friends, but they wouldn't go telling me to build my own car. You buy a car and just want it to go vroom, so why not the same with a computer?
Because a LOT of SI will use B grade parts(refurbished) or OEM demo parts that they get on the cheap. When you buy systems from an SI you are NOT guaranteed to get new parts. And in fact are almost sure to get some parts taken from returned PC's@@Demonslay335
I literally have the exact same specs except I have a Platinum 850 W Asus thor Psu. 1tb Nvme and 1tb SSD and 2Tb Hard drive.
I was set on the cpu being the problem, good to see that it was only psu and ram that was a need of replacment.
Always learn something from these videos :)
Looking forward to the next video :D
10:47 Don’t beat yourself over a bad DRAM seating Greg, I once took apart an entire build since my PC wasn’t powering on only to realize that the switch on the back of the power supply was off
I will say I've learned so much from this channel in my last year and a half of owning a gaming pc. I hope this series never ends. also can't wait till you go back to microcenter in GA or maybe even if you decide to visit the new one in Charlotte in the future I would love to meet you brother!
The 's' in 5Vs at 05:50 stands for stand-by. The motherboard requires the 5V standby to work in order to detect the power button being pressed.
Did you watch the video?
Try the LED switches on the frontpanel, they might just turn on
Yes I think that is why the RGB's aren't turnin on in the front. ;)
After watching a Louis Rossman video about EVGA power supplies, seeing an EVGA power supply be the issue is...concerning.
The issue was definitely the power supply though.
Also at 14:15 - Fan 1 on the left hand side looks only half-way inserted into the connector on the PCB. I don't think that would change anything, but I did notice it.
Great job as always!
Great video as always. As for the front fan RGB i know this is a silly question but did you try pressing the LED button on the top of the case? They might have just been turned off lol
Nice work. I bought an EVGA 600 watt PSU once, and the SATA and molex connectors were the cheapest things I had ever seen....they felt flimsy and fit poorly. I later bought a Corsair unit, and was really impressed with the quality---built like a brick
Corsair is king when it comes to PSU's. Also they clearly label the PSU cables with type of cable. And there is no problem finding out wich PSU's use wich cable types.
I did the same thing with the RAM on that board. The Video card to as well as it is a tight fit. Love those lights that tell you what is wrong. Or I would have been trying to figure it out for a while.
I just never get enough of this series, something about watching a PC start working is just so satisfying
Hi Greg, When I buy or repair a pre-built, a word pops into my brain: proprietary. If I suspect the PSU has gone South and I buy a new one, I affix small cardboard tags to the cables. I print the manufacturer's name, model number, and wattage on the tags and attach the tags to each of the included cables. By doing this, I assure myself that only the cables that came with the PSU are connected to that PSU. All PC owners should own a Power Supply Tester.
The Front RGB fans could be seperate and have a switch on the case to prevent them from lighting up. If you have the issue of sleeping while your case is going that can be a distraction. I did see the LED button on the case that could prevent the front RGBS on the fans from being turned on. Just a throught.
I would also check to ensure the LED cable from the fan hub is actually connected at the other end correctly. I did notice the Motherboard pin out on that hub had no cable so they can't be connected via the motherboard's software.
Pretty sure you’re correct on the PS taking out the hub for the leds . There should also be leds around the buttons on the case. Either way I truly enjoy your videos and I think it’s great that you’re helping others out and able to put food on the table. I’ve been building and trouble shooting computers for over 20 years and I sure wish UA-cam and content creating was popular back then . ❤
Not related to this video but did you see the latest video from Louis Rossman? Involves EVGA power supply shenanigans. Apparently even between the same power supplies some power cables are not compatible between like models. Supposedly a user RMAd a power supply where one is instructed to NOT return the cables. Upon receiving a new identical power supply he killed like 3 drives by using the previous cables.
Modular PSU pin out differences is not isolated to EVGA, most if not all brands have different pin outs even between models or tiers. I wouldn't be surprised even if they changed pin out from a same PSU model between a v 1.0 and a v1.1 or a refresh. That's why all tech channels warn you to keep your modular cables together with your PSU or PSU box and don't mix and match ever unless you know what you're doing and know the pin out. JayzTwoCents fried a SATA drive because he misplaced a SATA modular cable from some other PSU into a Corsair PSU's box he used.
@@kamui004 remember that most brands don’t actually make their own psus. They just have different oems make them and slap their label. EVGA is notorious for changing vendors every time they change the model.
@@TheSjurisI know that most big brands have their PSUs made by OEMs like GreatWall, SuperFlower or Silverstone and so on. That's why I said I wouldn't be surprised the pin out changes even with the same model if they do a v1.0 to v1.1, refresh or /sigh changed OEM.
@@kamui004 usually 1.0 to 1.1 is different parts in the psu. EVGA changes vendors on every single psu model. It’s why you’re never supposed to use the old cables on new psus. It’s also why I usually use Seasonic since they make their own psus and supply them to others.
@@kamui004 You're absolutely right. However, as Rossman pointed out, EVGA *specifically* instruct people returning PSUs under a RMA to *keep* their cables, because the company will *NOT* provide new ones. Nor do they give any indication that the pins might have changed on the replacement unit. So what are people supposed to do?
After watching some of your videos I finally built my 1st gaming pc. Nothing fancy but it works. Love the videos keep up the great work
Congratulations. I wish you a pleasant time with your PC. And I hope it will never feature in a fix or flop video.
@@KillerTrap I live states away. It's nothing major. Ryzen5 5600g and rx6600
@@Loopygrain That's a solid system that that should last you years. But you've now been bitten by the build your own bug and will never be satisfied by a prebuilt again. LOL
@1300BlueStar that's actually what I started with. Hp victius had it about a year and was over it and just built me one
I purchased a G5 supernova last year and it died within the first week, RMA'd and Newegg had me a new one in a weeks time. Thankfully since then no issues fingers crossed..🤞
Faulty power supply’s can cause damage across the system that is why people shouldn’t cheap out on them. A good quality will have safeguards to protect components. Did the old psu kill the ram or not position right in socket.? Seeing the system is booting I would steer towards short circuit of the sticks not being installed correctly. Looks like that old psu did the job and protected the components.
Hey, I'm a pc builder myself, I've been building quite a lot pc before. As my experience from building pc, gskill ram ( especially tridentz model to be specific), they tended to not work with ryzen cpu./ motherboard that well, if you receive the ram led, try to swap the ram that are in a2 to b2 and b2 back to a2, it might clear it out. If not just change it to different ram kit.
I live out in the country ... lighting, brownouts, cme's ... I almost always check the power supply ... so many voltages, so critical for everything, so easy with a tester
I sat there saying the whole time ,it's the CPU ,well it's never the CPU unless it's the CPU. Great job Greg ! Happy Day !
ive finished the series now from Season 1 to season 5. ive been building pcs for 4-5 months and you have helped me insane amounts. i was able to diagnose my own pcs issues so i appreciate you. wish there was people like you in the uk!
Why not you?
@@rickmiller4202 doing my own pc and my family and friends is one thing, but random people like greg does is another, i dont have the funds to replace if i were to damage something. although i could build a pc there is definitly still more i can learn. maybe in 10 years or so Lol :P
@@anthonyking5035 I understand. Be well.
I had a computer that the RGB failed to light after installing two more fans. The wiring was good and the LED's would flash on power up but not stay lit. About a year ago, we updated the BIOS for another issue and BAM, all the RGB worked again. The BIOS update was the only change made and it worked. ASUS motherboard and AMD CPU with an RTX 3090 GPU.
THE POWER STRIP 😆 Always appreciate your tranparency Greg.
My tip to get memory installation right: close the memory latch or latches WITHOUT installing the memory yet. Study the position the latches are in. They need to be in the EXACT SAME positions after you install the memory. If the latches make a 'click' sound when you close them without installing memory, they must make the same click sound when you close them after installing the memory. Any difference in latch position or sound when you install memory usually means you didn't properly install it.
Super dope to see someone honest and disclosing ads, most UA-camrs wouldn’t! Thanks for teaching me Greg
5VS (5V standby, also called 5VSB) on the power supply absolutely must work for the system to power on. Since it gives standby power to the mainboard, which is needed for the mainboard to turn on the power supply and boot the system. This isn't like with AT (and older) power supplies and mainboards which used a latching switch.
Since you said we should.....
I had an evga G2 850 watt die... albeit after using it in 3 pcs over 8 years, and when it died i kind of confirmed (or am very convinced) that the socket it was plugged into was drawing current from a line shared with a refrigerator in another room, so it probly tripped a few times without me knowing before dying completely.
I had that same exact PSU on Odin (yes, I name my BYOPC... sue me) and due to a power surge and a power strip choice error on my end, the EVGA G5 bit the dust although it protected the other components. I got another EVGA PSU, but it was the 850W Platinum version (Supernova P5) and the Platinum one has served me well to this day - and before anyone asks, the GPU tied to is is the RTX 3070TI.
Thank you for the disclosure of your agreement with be quiet.
I love your business model, love how you are upfront
Great video. I totally agree i would have started with power supply. Logical. Also, love the wristwatch. Is that a Datejust? I have been eyeing them for years.
Thanx a ton for the video Greg, I've been working like a dog all day and needed some good content to settle and relax to. See ya next time...
Everyone was fully socked during the making of this video.
On all appendages? 😏
Extra thumbsup for the super upfront disclosure Greg
Outside the RAM, they definitely did a decent job re-assembling the system for someone that's never built a PC.
"Oh yeah, I know nothing about PCs, but I went ahead and replaced the motherboard...twice"
@@scottyballz6447there's these things called tutorials
@@scottyballz6447 who said owner replaced it themselves twice? maybe got someone else to put it in?
Thank you lol, I did a lot of research before I did anything
@@IceWolf1102I did, just spent a lot of time dong research
I appreciate the Senna helmet in the background as well as the mysterious Yu-Gi-Oh! Cards on the table and walls.
I love building my own systems. Have been doing it for about 20 years now and have NEVER bout a pre-built PC. A friend gave me the basics of compatibility and I just took off from there lol. It's fun and personalized.
Great troubleshooting analysis Greg. Keep it up.
So I've never used an EVGA PSU. But I feel Like PSUs are the one part where people end up "saving" money where I definitely would not skimp. A failed PSU can basically kill everything else.
Had a similar experience about month ago, PC just instantly shut down, would not restart, no LED's on at all. Tested the power supply and found it had failed, it also took out 4 sticks of Dominator DDR4, a WD Black nvme 1TB SSD and a Corsair Commander Hub. luckily all parts covered by warranty.
But did you find out what caused the PSU to fail? I would say a power surge would generally be the cause for most failures unless it is really old
@@johnt.848 It was plugged into a fairly high end APC UPS, nothing else had a problem and the UPS didn't detect a problem. PS was replaced under warranty and they reimbursed for the cost of damaged parts, they didn't provide an explanation of the failure. I haven't mentioned the manufacturer because I don't like to skew opinion based on one experience, but it was from a well known and reputable manufacturer and was less than six months old.
@@eteocles4452good to hear.
I'm with Greg about Pre builds
It's not as hard as everyone thinks building a PC just take your time and do research watch a lot of UA-cam building guides and never depend on a shop that may or may not be overcharging for work they did or didn't do
You da MAN GREG! Fixed mission Completed :)
I've got a G5 650 unit that's been great. Haven't heard of them going bad often, but EVGA is great about warranty still.
I bought 2 identical cases with front LED fans. One I leave the LEDs off all the time and the front panel switch still works with it. The other I would occasionally change the color on the LED. The one I changed the colors on the LEDs won't turn on now. Checked the wiring on both and and considered getting a new controller board. (No problems on either computer other than the one has no LEDs on front fans.) Since he didn't replace the controller board I am not going to do so as well.
2:33 Aye Aye Captain!! 😃
Great video. As for the BeQuite PSU failing - curious as to who the OEM for the BeQuite PSU's are. Both the PSU and Ram being bad at the same time is just bad luck of the worst kind.
Haven't had issues with EVGA power supplies myself. I have them in all 5 of my computers in my home. The only one I've had die was one that was plugged directly into the wall with no protection and got fried from storm. Old 1960s home with subpar wiring and old original outlets. New power supply and a good quality UPS in line and no more problems.
Also a low cost fix for replacing the front fans would would be with Thermalright. They are my go to brand for fans
Missed opportunity to tell everyone the benefits of a good UPS to avoid issues like this. Great video as usual Greg.
A UPS will stop brownouts and power spikes but it won't keep a PSU from committing suicide. I've replaced a few PSU's over the years that have been plugged into good UPS's, fortunately the only downstream casualty has been a couple of HDDS and a really cheap multi IO card.
Glad to see you always diagnose the real cause and usually find it so fun and glad to see. Just wish to see the happy on there faces but I get why.
Love the series. Thanks for learning with us
Great video as always! I've been noticing your watches a lot more lately. You seem to have a pretty cool collection. Can't go wrong with the Tiffany blue on a jubilee bracelet
Hey Greg! I am really enjoying your channel! It has taught me quite a bit about computers. I am interested in learning more about building my own. Unfortunately, my time is a bit limited to dedicate myself to a classroom or any instructional facility. This is probably about as rookie a question out there, but are there any books you would recommend that could point me in the right direction? I learn best from reading, (and watching your channel ;) ). Thank you for your time with all of the great videos! All the best!
Random question, when you were testing the EVGA power supply, the fan lights were on in the background. Don't doubt that the power supply was bad, but how come the fan lights didn't come on when you initially turned it on, but came on when you were testing it?
Love the show. I looked up the Passmark tester but at $600+ is way too much for my budget. Would be great if you could have a list of cheaper testing tools and software that you recommend for computer techs starting out. I have followed your example and volunteer with computer repairs and upgrades in the Brevard NC area.
Thanks Greg. Always a pleasure to watch those videos
I dont know what u are doing different but your fix or flop series is the only one i like soo much and cant wait for the next episode 💪💪💪
I have the smaller version of this exact case. in addition to the boards rgb software, the front leds could also be controlled by the LED switch at the top of the case. but am willing to believe that the power supply might have partially killed that hub because of the bad power supply.
I have had my EVGA G2 since 2017 no issues yet. Love it.
Your out of Warranty now. Just give it a little time
This video reminds me of some light I have on my motherboard, I'm not sure why it's there but it's useful if my pc breaks in some way, a point to see if the motherboard gets power.
testing the PSU first? finally? hooly moley
So did you test his memory kit in a test board? If so, did they still show up as dead?
very cool. nice step by step troubleshooting. I'm starting to miss the PCDC series.
I had an issue with an EVGA G6 1000 watt that would make the PC randomly shut off while gaming and would refuse to turn back on until I would cycle the switch on the back of the PSU. I figured it had something to do with transient spikes from the 4090 despite the fact that I undervolted it and the rest of the PC isn't power hungry at all with the 7800x3d. I also had a fair amount of coil whine from the GPU with that PSU and after switching to the FSP Hydro PTM X 1000 I've never had another shutdown and the coil whine is completely gone. EVGA did replace the G6 with a brand new G7 1000 but I have yet to use it, I just will keep it as a backup.
Dag, sometimes I get dizzy trying to figure some of this stuff while I watch. LOL. God bless you and the family.
ALWAYS sucks when there are multiple issues found in a build. Especially when you went through two RMA'd MBs. smh I havent had issues with EVGA psu's. Been using them for years. But a failed psu does happen unfortunately. Did you try plugging the fans on the hub to the other headers just to see if they got taken out by the issue as well?
Thanks for vid!
The "no pun intended" 5:02 got me so good
Thanks Greg. Always enjoy your content. I was admiring your watch, what's the Brand n model if you don't mind my asking
Thanks 👍
I am from India, and I try to troubleshoot pc problems with the help of your videos. Thanks man, You are such a lifesaver!
Sounds like a short somewhere. I'm not a computer expert by any means but I used PC part picker to put together a compatible build, bought the components and did it myself and it works better than any of the pre-configured or custom PCs that I've ever had. And believe you me. I got enough SD drives in there to never get one fried. Hee hee!
Honestly, it's not as intimidating as it may seem. I've had so many problems from every pre-built PC I've had and doing it yourself saves you a lot of stress.
I ran into a similar issue when I was upgrading my ram kit on my x570 board. Turned out all I needed to do was reset the CMOS battery for my board to recognize the new ram kit
14:14 - the LED switch - is that connected to a button on the case? It doesn't look like the motherboard connector (top right of the board) is plugged in, so it's likely not getting any RBG signal from the motherboard.
I knew it was gonna be (at least in part) a bad PSU after he described the issue. Had my brand new build die 4 days into use. Same symptoms. Troubleshooting revealed dead PSU. Replaced it and luckily all the PSU took with it was the RAM (seems like same thing happened here) which I was replacing with a different kit anyway.
Running an EVGA G2 750W myself and still works like a charm :)
So, what's you take on the rgb funs not lightning up!!!