I'm glad the guy in the blue shirt really understands everything. I, on the other hand, would like more info on connections via speakers and what exactly is running parallel.
Waited on Lou at a steak house I was waiting tables at back in his comeback competitive days. Lemme tell ya, that was one massive dude! - about 6'5" 325lbs in competition form!! Massive! Think he would likely dwarf Gene's side-kick! lol
thanks guys for the info. that miniDSP that you guys mentioned is great. I added one to my setup with dual SVS subs. I used REW to get readings from each seat and then used another free program called Multi-Subwoofer Optimizer took that info and gavr me settings for the miniDSP. This did a phenomenal job at balancing the audio for each of my five seats.
You guys said a balanced Mini DSP is better. How do you hook that up? What's the pros and cons of towers that have built in subs? Can you have different sizes or models of subs? Explain the different connections and different types of cables and which is prefered. Love watching these videos. I learn so much from you guys. Can you make more than one video a week?
Hi, I just want to validate if my understanding is correct. My AV receiver [7.1 capable] has (1) sub output. To enable me use dual sub is to hook the Y-splitter(Male) from the AV sub output and hook-up the 2 subs at the of the end of Y-splitter(Female)? Follow-up question.. I assumed that the 2 subs were connected as per the required configuration, will the QUALITY of the sound of the 2 subwoofers be the affected? Thank you so much in advance! - newbie
I have the Sony STR-DN1080 AVR which has dual mono subwoofer outputs. I just bought two Klipsch R-12SWs. I'm thinking of purchasing two Mediabridge Ultra Series RCA Y-Adapter cables to enhance the sensitivity. Is this a good idea?
Hi friends! Thank you for such a great videos! Right now I'm trying to "recycle" 3 subs, just 2 of them match. I would like to connect them in some way to my new A/V receiver. However It has just 1 RCA sub output but all of them are passives. It would be possible to use them in any way? Thanks a lot!
Hi big fan of you Guys, I would like to know I have onkyo tx-nr646, and I have this connected to Bose accoustimass 10 series 5 and pre-out can I I hook up the second sub Woofer to pre-out connection
My denon avr has 2 Subwoofer hook ups, but it’s basically just one like you said. How do I set that up so they work together like with my odyssey?or any other Methods
What if you have one sub output on the receiver and your connecting two subs using the Y splitter going to each sub do you connect to both red outlets in the back of the sub or do you connect one sub red and one sub white or do it make a difference because of one line output on the receiver
Anyone know if this advice applies when you have two different size subwoofer from two different brands? That’s what I’m struggling with. I want one sub for the punch and one for the drone.
I have a onkyo NR 686 7.2 receiver but unable to configure 7.2 in speaker setup even after connecting 2 active subwoofer in separate ports given for sub. Still setup options shows only 7.1 and not 7.2. Could you please help.
Hi, My Yamaha YST-SW120 subwoofer is old and in addition to the passive inputs it also has an RCA L / R input. My Pioneer Receiver VSX-932 is modern and has two outputs pre-out subwoofer (RCA). Should I connect a single-ended RCA Y cable to one of the receiver's pre-out (1,2) outputs, and the two RCA leads on the subwoofer's L / R inputs? Or just connect one RCA cable to one of the receiver's pre-out outputs and connect to one of the L or R inputs of the subwoofwer? Or can I connect a dual RCA cable, connected to the two pre-out outputs of the Receiver and to the two L / R inputs of the Subwoofer? Thanks.
Big fan first off love your work and UA-cam channels. Have a question hopefully you or anyone else on here can answer. Just upgrade to 4 subs 2x r-112sw klipsch 2x r-120sw klipsch I have been looking into using a minidsp to set these up. I have a denon 3400h currently and will be upgrading soon. None the less both have 2 independent subwoofer outputs. Non of my subs do not have line out connections so I can’t daisy chain them. Am I wrong in assuming that I would connect both of my subwoofer outputs on my AVR into both inputs on the mini dsp? Say sub output 1 on my AVR into input 1 on the dsp and sub output 2 on my AVR into input 2 on the dsp. Or should I just utilize only one sub output on my AVR and let the mini dsp manage everything? Please help me understand Thanks Mike
My receiver has 2 subwoofer outputs. My sub has 2 rca inputs, white - L/LFE and red - R. Do I use rca cable 1 to 1 and plug into L/LFE on the sub or do I use 1 to 2 rca cable and use both inputs on my sub?
Great information as always guys ! Thank you. I think I know quite a bit on this particular subject but there were a few things you definitely educated me on in this video so kudos for that. I have dual subs and the extra learning curve isn't really that hard with good break downs like this.
How do I connect 2 subwoofers to my amplifier via the speaker output terminals diagram would be great but explanation would be fantastic does it affect the impedance load that the amplifier sees ? Thanks
My system consist of 5 floor speakers 2 subwoofers and 4 ceiling speakers on a Yamaha RX-A3080. I would like to add rear speakers, but I am unable to wire them without having wires on my floor crossing a walkway. I am hoping you know of a way to attach wires to the rear channel of the receiver from some type of device to make a wireless connection to another device which would than be wired to my speakers.
So how do you calibrate a sub with a receiver that has parallel dual sub outputs? Just run correction or do it separately to get the correct levels because I don't have matching subs.
Hi folks! I´ve a reciever Denon Avr-s 940H and two subwoofers Kliptsch R-115SW. I have each one connected independently to the receiver. I´m wondering why on the reciever shows only one soobwoofer as if the other one does not exist. ? All the others speakers are showing correctly. Thank you.
Hi, Good informative video as usual. However I have to say that I didn't understand the passage on what to do if you have an amp that only as subwoofer/pre outs (left and right) You said not to combine these pre out left and right channels with a Y splitter cable because there would be no buffers and this would seriously impact the sound quality. I wonder if you could expand on this as I don't know what these buffers are that you mention. Also what exactly would happen to the sound ? Thanks.
If you're preamp has left/right sub outputs/preouts, do NOT combine them with a y-splitter or you will destroy channel separation of your main channels and possibly damage your receiver. Instead, either run one RCA from the preaouts to each left/right input of your sub. OTherwise, just use either the left or right output and plug into the sub. Bass below 80Hz is mono anyways so you will be fine using only 1 of the channels.
This is what Polk tells me to do "PSW10- NOTE: The PSW10 subwoofer does not have an LFE input. Instead, use either the L or R Line input (another hookup option is to use a Y-split cable and connect both L and R Line inputs). After you make this Sub Out connection, turn the "Low Pass" filter fully clockwise. This will in effect create an LFE input.--Would you connect to either the left or R line input?
I'm still having issues- My receiver is Yamaha - AVENTAGE RX-A2A 100W 7.2-Channel AV. My original sub is a Polk 12 Signature series. I recently bought a SVS SB-2000 Pro Subwoofer. I know they aren't the same brand and that's not ideal but I have 2 sub outs so I figured I would try. When both are plugged in neither of them work. When either of them are plugged in alone they work fine respectively. So right now I am just running the SVS. Can anyone help?
Hi Guys been a fan for a while and i am curious as to why you don't actually do an actual LIVE demonstration of how to connect multiple subs or amps or fill in the blank. You guys are our "goto" for knowledge but it would be even better to see how its done. I only ask this because I'm a visual learner and I'm sure there are others. Thanks Rico
Thanks Rico; We are actually thinking about doing a live show once/mo in the near future. Perhaps in the form of a Q&A or demonstration as you suggest.
in my case i've got an old sony 5.1 home theater receiver with a dedicated subwoofer out (speaker wire) to my ears it sounds great for movies but for music i wanted a little extra bass so i purchased the Bic america F12, my dying question is can i connect my F12 using the subwoofer out (speaker wire) from the receiver or is it absolutely necessary to use the left and right channels from the receiver ? Audioholics PLEASE REPLY....
So if I want to connect 4 subs all I need is 2 male to female y connectors? When setting up the speakers on the denon 4500 it asks how many subs only options is 1 or 2 will the 2 subs connected on the receiver play at the same time as 1and so on for the second set of subs? Other question is when running audyssey will it calibrate assuming only 2 subs ate connected or a minidsp is mandatory at this point? I do intend on getting a dsp just curious to see if it would work well even if a dsp is not in the system. Not all will get a dsp and many that do have one will never get it to work well the REW takes a lot of learning most never understand it.
So i could use the sub output on this (Sony BDV-N590) and splice into the sony cable hooking up something like this (Wharfedale Diamond SW150) for example?
Gene, I have a question, I know this is an old video. I am going to purchase 2 more subwoofers in equal of 4 subs. Two up front and two in the back, the subs I have and want to match are the Klipsch R-115W's unfortunately the subs only have 2 inputs L/R, so according to your suggestion, ( My receiver has two sub outs ) I would split the 2 sub output with a splitter out from my receiver to the 4 subs line LFE's?
I've got a Denon Avrs930h receiver with 2 sub outputs (assuming parallel) and am trying to set up a 2 sub system using Klipsch R12sw subs....when I do the Audysses calibration (volume halfway, crossovers maxed, power switches on) sound only comes out of 1 of the subs....is this normal? Also, the on screen configuration only shows 1 sub, not both. Thank you! I can't find any info online about my setup. And being that I have 2 subs, should I classify my front Klipsch r28f towers as large or small? The rest of the surround speakers are bookshelfs (7.2 system).
Yolo yes they were, the issue I had with the denon receiver was it didn’t offer separate tuning of each sub. It was essentially 1 sub channel with two rca outputs. But with that in mind, the calibration setup worked fine once I completed it, the second sub just didn’t output any sound during the setup process.
Denon AVR-3801 AM/FM Stereo 735-Watt 7.1-Channel Home Audio Surround Receiver - sub woofer has a pre out right and left. the 2 subs i want to hookup has only one right left in on each sub. how to i hook them both up without loosing any power from each.? i did hook with a splitter one wire/ cord to each but lost power or sound to each too. do i need multiple kinds of splitters for this? thanks for any info? or help...
Hi I have a question. I run multiple subwoofers for the many reasons you stated. Currently I am using the speaker inputs which works fantastic. However, I am migrating to a system where the subwoofer outputs will be low level outputs with no option for speaker inputs. All three of my subwoofers, except for one, have L/R inputs and no LFE inputs because they are older. How do I daisy chain these subwoofers together? Will I need to buy 6 y splitters to do this? (I'm thinking, two male to 1 female y splitter plugs into the subwoofer, and then 1 male to two female y splitter plugs into that to daisy chain). I should add that none of these subwoofers have outputs on them for proper daisy chaining, so I believe y splitting is my only option. Or perhaps the miniDSP device you talked about, but I am not quite there yet.
Hi I’m a newbie. The processor I’m looking at has only one XLR output connection and a left and right sub XLR output connection. The Subwoofer has a XLR slave out and XLR LFE master input. It also has LFE and Line in RCA connections. The Subwoofer instructions say that the Slave subwoofer units each have their own phase and PEQ adjustment, allowing for placement apart from each other. What would be the optimal way of connecting this sub to the processor? Would I still be able to use the bass management settings in the processor if I connected the XLR LFE output to the XLR LFE input on the subwoofer and daisy chain via XLR?
Oh wait i think all three are LFE XLR outputs. I would amp assign those to object based and I guess perhaps upgrade by getting another module for XLR LFE output. I’m looking at the Emotiva RMC-1
Hi Gene & Hugo, thanks for the great videos you guys produce. In the case of receivers with dual outputs and indepent levels and delays, are th receiver manufacturers making assumptions about where the subs will be placed (for instance sub 1 and sub 2 both placed at the front of the room, or sub 1 at the front of the room and sub 2 at the back of the room)? If they are making assumptions about placement, does it matter given the independent level and distance controls, or are there certain sub placements that should be avoided?
No the receiver is stupid and doesn't know or care where your subs are. Some manufacturers offer "Front" and "Rear" sub settings for simple labeling while others only send LFE to one of the subs. It's always best to choose "2 sub mono mix" when that option is given to assure LFE goes to both subs.
i wanted to add a 2nd sub,my sub is REL T7, very musical I love its sound. but its no longer in production. i keep reading good reviews about SVS. ge t a used rel or two new svs. how to plug them .
great videos guys, i have 2 super cube 4000 and 2 Motion40 towers as front speakers should i cut them at 40hz or run them as full band, thanks I'm kind of new in these stuff
It's always best to send the mid bass frequencies to a subwoofer instead of the mains and use a receivers bass mgmt. setting the mains to small and the low pass filter at 80 Hz for non localizable bass. Your mains will perform better and the extra bass that your receivers power supply would have had to carry is now offloaded to the sub's amp. A win, win. Hope this helps.
I would simply let the subs handle all low frequencies. I have huge Klipsch Ref IV front tower speakers and still set them to small. All my crossovers on all 5 speakers are at 80Hz. Sub is also at 80Hz crossover. These audioholics videos tought me so much...
Off topic here but i was wondering what could be the cause of sound quality variances throughout the day. At times I notice a volume drop, less bass and overall oopmh to the sound. I have measured the voltage randomly and it varies from about 117 to 122v. Sucks because the sound difference is significant. Is there a way to avoid this and keep the sound consistant? Thanks
Probably nothing to do with line voltage. Sounds like something is off in your calibration or maybe your subs auto-on feature is not engaging with signal present. Check your levels, make sure all your speakers are working.
hi sir, can you help me please I have a Denon amp AVR 3803 I want to hook it up with a Blu-ray but I got no HDMI input, at the moment I don't want to replace my amp still working fine have a good sound. so do you think there is a way to hook up my Blu-ray to my amp. Thanks
i have a denon x-2000 and a polk audio psw 10 i hooked up my mediabridge subwoofer Y cable and for some reason it is not working but if i take a Y cable connection piece and rca it works.....any cause for concern? -Paul
the subwoofer/LFE channel is mono with a few exceptions where you'd want to run stereo bass L/R subs if your mains are crossed over above 80Hz. Single sub out is fine to run 2 subs off of. If you want delay control to better time align them, you'll need an external DSP box to compensate however.
@@Audioholics thanks for your reply.. I have one more question. I am unable to fast forward MP3 content with usb playback with my yamaha rxv 485 reciever.The forward button also has the function of radio station tuning in this reciever.Or is it not possible to fast forward MP3 content in Av recievers ?? Thanks Sabari
am having a pioneer receiver vsx320 with one sub pre out and am having 2 subwoofer pioneer can i connect together by means of y connection, and is there any effect for using 2 subwoofer in one sub preout.
Hi there, Id like your thoughts on which you would choose and why between these receivers: Yamaha Aventage RX-A3060 Denon AVR-X6200W Pioneer SC-LX89 Please help. My set-up 7.1.2 Im interested in audio quality and calibration mainly. Thanks heaps. Scott
hey guy's, I just bought some jbl lsr308 studio monitors... and holy hot damn... can you guys show some input on how good a studio monitor can be as far as a flat sound. I can't believe the sound from these things... input from you guy's on this would be radical... peace from reno, nv
How important is it to use matching subs? For example, I own an SVS PB 13 Ultra and due to space constraints I would like to use a second smaller sub in my HT room setup. I am thinking of one of SVS cylinder subs.
Ideally you'd want to use all the same subs for best modal manipulation and xfer function but you can still use mismatched subs if they similar output capabilities. You can use EQ to better tune mismatched subs as well.
It seem strange to talk of higher info on types of receivers that don,t have the proper outputs.Why would a person use multi subs on a two channel receiver rather than purchasing a multi channel receiver with the proper inputs and outputs? I am 76 years old and I purchased a dozen receivers with the changes 2 Stereo,Quadraphonic,5.1,6.1, 7.1and HI DEF audio 3D 7.2 receivers. not gone for Dolby Atmos because in Buffalo,New York not one of Theaters have Dolby Atmos nearest is Toronto Canada and it's 2017.
I can help with this. The 2x4 balanced is the MiniDSP Gene uses but you'll have to cut some short RCA cables up and strip and separate them plus make a couple of jumper wires if making unbalanced connections. There's an online tutorial a guy did a few years ago showing how to do it with pics. The other way would be to find already made RCA to Phoenix connectors online. Many use the unbalanced MiniDSP 2x4 with only RCA connections which is easier but the output voltage is less than half as much . Best to check with your subwoofer manufacture to find out the subwoofers input sensitivity to verify the unbalanced MiniDSP would work. Mostly they do but there are stories of sub's that have had issues. The third option would be the newer MiniDSP 2x4HD which has more filters, features and processing power but also uses only RCA connections and has a higher output voltage like the balanced MiniDSP 2x4 but costs more money. With any of these you'll need to also purchase the correct software plug in for your use, a calibrated USB mic (to use on a laptop with the freeware software Room Equalization Wizard) and the external power supply in the case of the unbalanced MiniDSP 2x4. The MiniDSP 2x4 HD comes with the power supply. Hope this helps. Austin Jerry on AVS Forums is the go to guru on anything MiniDSP "non HD" version and is an invaluable asset to any beginner with a detailed tutorial attached to his signature page and through online in forum support. There's a bit of a learning curve but if you stick with it the payoffs especially with multiple sub's can be huge.
So to add just one more sub, I need to do a Frankenstein cable to the mDSP? Can I not just put 2 receiver outputs to the 2 inputs of the 2X4, then 2 out, 1 to each sub in stereo now? I know I have some research to do lol. Thanks for the reply and feedback.
sanchezzz1 Lol. No the Frankenstein option would be just if you bought the balanced 2x4 MiniDSP with Phoenix connections. You'd basically get short length RCA cables ( one for the input and 2 for the output ) and cut off the connector going into and out of the MiniDSP . Roll up the insulating material and separate the other 2 wires and insert them into the correct Phoenix connections on the MiniDSP. When not using true balanced XLR connectors in a pre pro, receiver or subwoofer the extra step you do with the balanced MiniDSP is to make, with spare short insulated wire, jumper wires between the separate Phoenix connectors and your done. I'll try to find the tutorial link I found showing how to do it but honestly without the point of the lesser output voltage to your subs being an issue I would just get the unbalanced MiniDSP 2x4 with standard RCA hookups. The other option is the new MiniDSP 2x4 HD which uses only RCA connections plus has the increased output voltage to the sub's that the MiniDSP 2x4 balanced has as well as a better processor, more filter options and filtering options in the time domain not just the frequency domain but the main reason I'd get the HD version isn't for that last reason. It would be for the better processor, higher output voltage and extra filter options in the frequency domain. Austin Jerry actually recommends using a 2 way to 1 RCA splitter from a receivers sub output if it has dual sub outputs and just use the one RCA input on the MiniDSP . Then use 2 separate RCA cables for the MiniDSP's outputs to the sub's. He has instructions on how to do this in a tutorial linked in his AVS forums signature. So to sum it all up the options are as follows: 1) MiniDSP 2x4 balanced and cut up short RCA cables plus make jumper wires for the Phoenix connections . 2) MiniDSP 2x4 unbalanced and just use the RCA connections but verify through your subwoofer manufacture that the DSP's output voltage is sufficient for your sub's (most are.) 3) MiniDSP 2x4 HD (more money.) Just uses the RCA connections but it has the higher output voltage of the MiniDSP 2x4 balanced along with more frequency filters and a better processor but is not specifically supported by Austin Jerry who offers in forum tech support for the other 2 DSP's.
+sanchezzz1 Ok, I found that link to the tutorial for making the RCA to Phoenix connections. seriousaudioblog.blogspot.com/2012/06/easy-rca-inputs-and-outputs-for-2x4.html?m=1
Thanks Thomas, I would prefer the HD but for the extra 110. I might attempt the 'Frankenstein lol with the mic costs of 100. everything adds up. But I may just save up a little longer an do it right! Either way I have some research to do and a lot to take in.
can two Vizio vht510 wireless subwoofer be connected at the same time? I bought another woofer from a friend had same model but I can't figure out how to connect iam thinking maybe it cannot be pair .but if anyone know away please let me know.thank you.
You can if your sub's input sensitivity is an issue or you want to use the line input connections instead for less chance of LF interference and want to use your sub's built in phase knob and LPF but most find it easier to just use a sub's dedicated single LFE input and set their sub's LPF switch all the way over and just let the receiver's bass mgmt handle the rest.
Hi, I have 2 identical Subs which have a phase switch and was told that one sub should be set to phase 0 and other set to phase 180. Is this correct? I have 2 LFE outputs from my AV Receiver.
Usually you want to keep both subs at the same phase but it really depends how they interact in the room with each other and your main speakers. You need to test with some bass tones, or wideband pinknoise and an SPL meter.
Hmm I'd have to look. Basically connect line out of your receiver to line in of sub 1, then line out of sub 1 to line in of sub 2, and repeat until you run out of subs :)
I would not use the motherboard's sound... too much interference with other components (you will get some white noise)... Ever tried hooking up your Graphics card via HDMI to your receiver? I use a GTX 980 as a sound source for my PC. The sounds are set to 192KHZ in 5.1 24 bit audio as well through a Yamaha RX-2000... you'd be suprised how well a GPU can output sound. It also supports all the Latest DTS and DOLBY features for bluray playback. Sound cards are not all that used anymore... Motherboards are starting to not have a PCI slot in there designs. I had and still have an Auzentech HDMI sound card but it never really worked as the drivers are out of date and now unsupported. If you have questions about PC gaming/movie audio setup with a receiver, PM me. I'm at my third PC audio couch setup.
Yeah. I'm sorry I didn't add that last part about then hooking an HDMI cable directly to the receiver when using REW on a laptop with a USB Mic. I'll definitely let you know if I have any questions. I haven't messed with my laptop/receiver interface in a while. Good to have another knowledge base to pull from. Thanks.
Thanks. I currently have a velodyne digital drive dd-15. I want a second sub but another DD-15 is out of my price range. I am looking at the new SVS SB 4000 as a match. The SVS 13 ultra SB was less in power and the SVS 16 ultra SB was over . Any suggestions would help.
Charles; I actually have 2 DD-15+ subs in cherry finish and mint condition. I'm selling one for $2k + shipping. Only reason I am selling is I have 5 subs now and 4 is enough for my room. Great product! Otherwise go with an SB-4000 as it's a very comparable product at a good value. It is however nice to match subs when you can however. If you live in the USA, feel free to email me: gds@audioholics.com before I list it for sale.
Well this show was about clarifying everything to audiophiles so you can't just do it but know how to do it and what it does. You get to know everything you need
@@flowingflo5979 Showing how to connect components, reviewing products and explaining while showing to us is the best way to do it. Look I got 31 likes!
Yes. In fact, I'd recommend it. I replaced a Klipsch Synergy 10-Inch Subwoofer that blew its amp, with a VSV-SB2000. This VSV is now paired with a Validyne 10-Inch Subwoofer with a passive radiator under it. Unfortunately, the Validyne’s passive radiator slows down the reactivity of the speaker. This gives it distinct similarities to the sound that comes from my VSV-SB2000 (only at a much lower volume level). I say this because the Klipsch reproduced some frequencies better than either of the other two Subwoofers. Its ported box and smaller size speaker gives it a reactivity advantage; the higher bass frequencies (40 to 100 Hz) are a little tighter. The VSV-SB2000, for quality and loudness, significantly beats the other two. SVS sells ported and sealed boxes, and different size speakers and power amps, for a good reason; they each have their strengths and weaknesses. There is no “one” perfect sub at any price. It’s better to have two different subwoofers in a system that complement each other by creating a fuller sound. **** I do intend to replace my Validyne, only because it is too similar to my new VSV-SB2000. I may go with the VSV-SB1000, The VSV brand impresses me. The visual symmetry of having two of the same subwoofers is astatically pleasing, but I believe that using two different subwoofers with different strengths and weaknesses will give me a more versatile and better sounding system.
Enjoyable, but Hugo.... You ask too many questions... LOL :-D My challenge is that I do have a Krell KAV 400-xi where you cannot split the pre / power sections, and additionally my Duntech sprakers really need a high-pass filter to maximize them as the low bass interferes too much with midrange when they're pushed.... Just too much excursion on the mid/woofer. Really only way that I see is to run the Duntech's full range or change amplifier; unless you do have a very creative suggestion????
Just a note Gene when doing daisy chain of subs using sub in and sub out to a second sub you have to watch out as the output may have a fixed or variable high pass filter on it which would kill most of the bass to the second sub. it varies a lot by model and maker as to how the sub outs are wired up. an alternative If this is an issue for your sub is to use a 2 rca to 1 rca adapter at the first subs input so that you can link the second sub in without having to cable back to the AVR.
I've never seen this happen with subs but I guess it's a good idea to always consult the manual. Most line outs of subs are just a parallel buffered connection to the line inputs from my experience.
Hi guys, You have some great videos. If you get a chance, can you watch a number of videos from Dennis Foley of Acoustic Fields and respond or comment on them. Perhaps you have heard of him or read some of his work. He sounds very knowledgeable on the subject of bass management and seems like a no BS kind of guy like you two. Thanks.
I subscbd you, i always see your videos, but i have to say this ... Did you record this vid on the 90´s ? C´mon, you can do a lot better than this... 720p.
Well, my Chrome says that this vid is in 480p, and the remaining ones are in 720p/1080p, i have just seen a few secs ago.You know, never mind. Cheers. (ClipConverter says the same, i tried, just.. because)
+Audioholics I have to say I agree with him in some regard. It maybe be displaying in 1080 it just looks off and I have watched your stuff on many different platforms.. The audio always sounds great but there's something about your recording quality.. Great tips on the subs btw. Thanks guys.
Pretty Good Presentation on Vanilla Sub-Woofer Essentials. HOWEVER: NO ONE ADDRESSES THE LOW FREQUENCY BROADCASTS/RECORDING ESP. IN ATMOS & DTS-X. BOTH my S-Woofers in My Marantz Home Theater ARE SET TO LFE & Speakers to 'Small'. WE'RE TELLING YOU THAT NOT ALL RECORDINGS WILL INCLUDE BASS -- MANY TIMES ONLY SPECIAL DOLBY - DTS SIGNALS WILL INCLUDE ;LFE SIGNALS.... MEANING - There Often IS NO BASS ON REGULAR RECORDINGS --- BECASUE THERE IS NO FLE SIGNAL.
You guys need to invest in better camera gear. The picture quality might have been ok 5 years ago but now it is just painful to watch. I bought my first Full HD camera 5 years ago and I was seriously behind the curve. Get with the times, fellas.
The video was accidentally uploaded in non-HD. The HD version can be seen here and the camera used for this video is of very high quality: ua-cam.com/video/VwIUEOQ_ujU/v-deo.html
Funny, i've answered this three times last week too... Y-splitters and "LFE is not sub" is still the main problem. Basically, this is repeating my words from one group almost verbatim, co-incidence i'm sure but just funny. EDIT: NEVER EVER split more than once!!!!!! This is extremely stupid to suggest 3-4 from one output. True, it most likely will work but we need to have four absolutely identical subwoofer inputs and still, every little feedback it can even theoretically do, will be amplified. One can get away with one passive split but not two or more. Will it work? 99% of the time. The 1% is what scares me, one unit fails, 4 unit fails. The summing should never happen externally and passive, on a piece of wire we don't know about, we have to to it do active and contained. No if's and but's: active splitter. Signal splitters are STUPIDLY cheap, you can get 4/8 active splitter, every channel isolated with less than 50$ and with "pro audio" specs. I can split one channel to 128 duplicates with the cheapest active splitters in the market and never hear a change. The video starts so nice but fails at that one point.
you're very wrong about your points. An output can be split into 4 parallel connections each going to a high impedence input buffer of a subwoofer. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this and its done all the time. Sure a device that breaks the signal into 4 outputs with individual gain and level control is preferred but the passive approach works.
Audioholics The point is not that it works, it is about one of those units having a catastrophic failure and that unit is then hardwired to three other unit input. It is about impedances between the units; we have one that has half, guess what has just happened to our gain structure? There are millions of examples why you NEVER use more than one passive split. You guys should know perfectly well not to suggest using even ONE Y-splitter as that is not at all how we should do it. One split is accepted as "ad hoc", if we don't have an active splitter at the moment, show is in half an hour, we MAY use y-splitter temporarily. It is a practice that can get your face on the Wall of Shame. You are audio engineers with a degree, right?
+SquidCaps ok so 1 split is ok but not 2? that's puzzling. show me the failures. been doing it for years without incident and manufactures even suggest it too but you're entitled to your opinion. It's good to be cautious but I don't see how an input feedback can cause another unit to fail.
When you have two variables, it is quite easy to control it. Once you have three, it becomes exponentially harder to control it. The fact is that we do have quite stable inputs and we don't have feedbacks. If all goes well, that is.. Just one of the units exhibiting weird behavior will change the inputs on all units. To even begin to start to think about it, we need to have four identical subwoofers. Or ones that are measured to match. Guess how many of your audience knows how to use a freaking 5$ multimeter? So, why suggest something that a seasoned profession would not use unless at extreme panic to a total amateurs who still believe cables are directional? So, just don't suggest sub par methods to total noobs. Will it work? Most likely yes but "most likely" will not come 100m closer to my work. "most likely" is not good enough. You do it once, you do it well or you don't do it at all. Signal splitters are dirt cheap.
+SquidCaps sorry but you are wrong on many accounts. you don't need identical subs regardless. also rewatch our video. I recommend a combo of Y-splitting and daisy chaining which gives you isolation buffers between stages. Please try not to misinform and rewatch.
I just found this in 2020. Still very helpful. Thank you. Also, in unrelated news, you guys are jacked!
I'm glad the guy in the blue shirt really understands everything. I, on the other hand, would like more info on connections via speakers and what exactly is running parallel.
Lou Ferrigno is an audio expert. who would've thought
Eugene levy on steroids
Waited on Lou at a steak house I was waiting tables at back in his comeback competitive days. Lemme tell ya, that was one massive dude! - about 6'5" 325lbs in competition form!! Massive! Think he would likely dwarf Gene's side-kick! lol
thanks guys for the info. that miniDSP that you guys mentioned is great. I added one to my setup with dual SVS subs. I used REW to get readings from each seat and then used another free program called Multi-Subwoofer Optimizer took that info and gavr me settings for the miniDSP. This did a phenomenal job at balancing the audio for each of my five seats.
Thank you Gene and Hugo. This is useful and the audio is great
You guys said a balanced Mini DSP is better. How do you hook that up? What's the pros and cons of towers that have built in subs? Can you have different sizes or models of subs? Explain the different connections and different types of cables and which is prefered. Love watching these videos. I learn so much from you guys. Can you make more than one video a week?
Hi, I just want to validate if my understanding is correct. My AV receiver [7.1 capable] has (1) sub output. To enable me use dual sub is to hook the Y-splitter(Male) from the AV sub output and hook-up the 2 subs at the of the end of Y-splitter(Female)? Follow-up question.. I assumed that the 2 subs were connected as per the required configuration, will the QUALITY of the sound of the 2 subwoofers be the affected? Thank you so much in advance! - newbie
I have the Sony STR-DN1080 AVR which has dual mono subwoofer outputs. I just bought two Klipsch R-12SWs. I'm thinking of purchasing two Mediabridge Ultra Series RCA Y-Adapter cables to enhance the sensitivity. Is this a good idea?
Hi friends! Thank you for such a great videos! Right now I'm trying to "recycle" 3 subs, just 2 of them match. I would like to connect them in some way to my new A/V receiver. However It has just 1 RCA sub output but all of them are passives. It would be possible to use them in any way? Thanks a lot!
My receiver has one subwoofer out but there is a left and a right. Can I use one powered sub on the left and one on the right?
Hi big fan of you Guys, I would like to know I have onkyo tx-nr646, and I have this connected to Bose accoustimass 10 series 5 and pre-out can I I hook up the second sub Woofer to pre-out connection
My denon avr has 2 Subwoofer hook ups, but it’s basically just one like you said. How do I set that up so they work together like with my odyssey?or any other Methods
What if you have one sub output on the receiver and your connecting two subs using the Y splitter going to each sub do you connect to both red outlets in the back of the sub or do you connect one sub red and one sub white or do it make a difference because of one line output on the receiver
What about using dual Passive subs?
Anyone know if this advice applies when you have two different size subwoofer from two different brands?
That’s what I’m struggling with. I want one sub for the punch and one for the drone.
I have a onkyo NR 686 7.2 receiver but unable to configure 7.2 in speaker setup even after connecting 2 active subwoofer in separate ports given for sub. Still setup options shows only 7.1 and not 7.2. Could you please help.
Hi, My Yamaha YST-SW120 subwoofer is old and in addition to the passive inputs it also has an RCA L / R input.
My Pioneer Receiver VSX-932 is modern and has two outputs pre-out subwoofer (RCA).
Should I connect a single-ended RCA Y cable to one of the receiver's pre-out (1,2) outputs, and the two RCA leads on the subwoofer's L / R inputs?
Or just connect one RCA cable to one of the receiver's pre-out outputs and connect to one of the L or R inputs of the subwoofwer?
Or can I connect a dual RCA cable, connected to the two pre-out outputs of the Receiver and to the two L / R inputs of the Subwoofer?
Thanks.
Hello I have a Bose lifestyle v35 system can I add another Bose subwoofer
Big fan first off love your work and UA-cam channels. Have a question hopefully you or anyone else on here can answer.
Just upgrade to 4 subs
2x r-112sw klipsch
2x r-120sw klipsch
I have been looking into using a minidsp to set these up.
I have a denon 3400h currently and will be upgrading soon. None the less both have 2 independent subwoofer outputs. Non of my subs do not have line out connections so I can’t daisy chain them. Am I wrong in assuming that I would connect both of my subwoofer outputs on my AVR into both inputs on the mini dsp? Say sub output 1 on my AVR into input 1 on the dsp and sub output 2 on my AVR into input 2 on the dsp.
Or should I just utilize only one sub output on my AVR and let the mini dsp manage everything?
Please help me understand
Thanks
Mike
My receiver has 2 subwoofer outputs. My sub has 2 rca inputs, white - L/LFE and red - R. Do I use rca cable 1 to 1 and plug into L/LFE on the sub or do I use 1 to 2 rca cable and use both inputs on my sub?
issue now is many av have only rca connectors now... please update.
Great information as always guys ! Thank you. I think I know quite a bit on this particular subject but there were a few things you definitely educated me on in this video so kudos for that. I have dual subs and the extra learning curve isn't really that hard with good break downs like this.
I’m running 4 sw10 Polk Subwoofers! Avr s540 denon receiver! Who has the best high quality cable connections?
How do I connect 2 subwoofers to my amplifier via the speaker output terminals diagram would be great but explanation would be fantastic does it affect the impedance load that the amplifier sees ? Thanks
Can i use 2 male rca to 1 rca male cable to add a subwoofer
Where do you get that minidsp device?
My system consist of 5 floor speakers 2 subwoofers and 4 ceiling speakers on a Yamaha RX-A3080. I would like to add rear speakers, but I am unable to wire them without having wires on my floor crossing a walkway. I am hoping you know of a way to attach wires to the rear channel of the receiver from some type of device to make a wireless connection to another device which would than be wired to my speakers.
So how do you calibrate a sub with a receiver that has parallel dual sub outputs? Just run correction or do it separately to get the correct levels because I don't have matching subs.
Hi folks! I´ve a reciever Denon Avr-s 940H and two subwoofers Kliptsch R-115SW. I have each one connected independently to the receiver. I´m wondering why on the reciever shows only one soobwoofer as if the other one does not exist. ? All the others speakers are showing correctly. Thank you.
Hello...does connecting 2 subs to a single pre out by using either of the above mentioned connections affect the operation of the receiver?
Hi,
Good informative video as usual.
However I have to say that I didn't understand the passage on what to do if you have an amp that only as subwoofer/pre outs (left and right)
You said not to combine these pre out left and right channels with a Y splitter cable because there would be no buffers and this would seriously impact the sound quality.
I wonder if you could expand on this as I don't know what these buffers are that you mention.
Also what exactly would happen to the sound ?
Thanks.
If you're preamp has left/right sub outputs/preouts, do NOT combine them with a y-splitter or you will destroy channel separation of your main channels and possibly damage your receiver. Instead, either run one RCA from the preaouts to each left/right input of your sub. OTherwise, just use either the left or right output and plug into the sub. Bass below 80Hz is mono anyways so you will be fine using only 1 of the channels.
Hi,
Thanks for the clarification, it is appreciated.
This is what Polk tells me to do "PSW10-
NOTE: The PSW10 subwoofer does not have an LFE input. Instead, use either the
L or R Line input (another hookup option is to use a Y-split cable and connect both
L and R Line inputs). After you make this Sub Out connection, turn the "Low Pass"
filter fully clockwise. This will in effect create an LFE input.--Would you connect to either the left or R line input?
I'm still having issues- My receiver is Yamaha - AVENTAGE RX-A2A 100W 7.2-Channel AV. My original sub is a Polk 12 Signature series. I recently bought a SVS SB-2000 Pro Subwoofer. I know they aren't the same brand and that's not ideal but I have 2 sub outs so I figured I would try. When both are plugged in neither of them work. When either of them are plugged in alone they work fine respectively. So right now I am just running the SVS. Can anyone help?
Hi Guys
been a fan for a while and i am curious as to why you don't actually do an actual LIVE demonstration of how to connect multiple subs or amps or fill in the blank. You guys are our "goto" for knowledge but it would be even better to see how its done. I only ask this because I'm a visual learner and I'm sure there are others.
Thanks
Rico
Thanks Rico; We are actually thinking about doing a live show once/mo in the near future. Perhaps in the form of a Q&A or demonstration as you suggest.
in my case i've got an old sony 5.1 home theater receiver with a dedicated subwoofer out (speaker wire) to my ears it sounds great for movies but for music i wanted a little extra bass so i purchased the Bic america F12, my dying question is can i connect my F12 using the subwoofer out (speaker wire) from the receiver or is it absolutely necessary to use the left and right channels from the receiver ?
Audioholics PLEASE REPLY....
So if I want to connect 4 subs all I need is 2 male to female y connectors? When setting up the speakers on the denon 4500 it asks how many subs only options is 1 or 2 will the 2 subs connected on the receiver play at the same time as 1and so on for the second set of subs? Other question is when running audyssey will it calibrate assuming only 2 subs ate connected or a minidsp is mandatory at this point? I do intend on getting a dsp just curious to see if it would work well even if a dsp is not in the system. Not all will get a dsp and many that do have one will never get it to work well the REW takes a lot of learning most never understand it.
So i could use the sub output on this (Sony BDV-N590) and splice into the sony cable hooking up something like this (Wharfedale Diamond SW150) for example?
Gene, I have a question, I know this is an old video. I am going to purchase 2 more subwoofers in equal of 4 subs. Two up front and two in the back, the subs I have and want to match are the Klipsch R-115W's unfortunately the subs only have 2 inputs L/R, so according to your suggestion, ( My receiver has two sub outs ) I would split the 2 sub output with a splitter out from my receiver to the 4 subs line LFE's?
I've got a Denon Avrs930h receiver with 2 sub outputs (assuming parallel) and am trying to set up a 2 sub system using Klipsch R12sw subs....when I do the Audysses calibration (volume halfway, crossovers maxed, power switches on) sound only comes out of 1 of the subs....is this normal? Also, the on screen configuration only shows 1 sub, not both. Thank you! I can't find any info online about my setup. And being that I have 2 subs, should I classify my front Klipsch r28f towers as large or small? The rest of the surround speakers are bookshelfs (7.2 system).
Yolo I did thank you! Swapped the receiver to a Marantz 6013, the Denon just wasn’t doing what I wanted as far as feature set.
Yolo yes they were, the issue I had with the denon receiver was it didn’t offer separate tuning of each sub. It was essentially 1 sub channel with two rca outputs. But with that in mind, the calibration setup worked fine once I completed it, the second sub just didn’t output any sound during the setup process.
Denon AVR-3801 AM/FM Stereo 735-Watt 7.1-Channel Home Audio Surround Receiver - sub woofer has a pre out right and left.
the 2 subs i want to hookup has only one right left in on each sub. how to i hook them both up without loosing any power from each.? i did hook with a splitter one wire/ cord to each but lost power or sound to each too. do i need multiple kinds of splitters for this? thanks for any info? or help...
i had pics but don't see where to add them? hmm.. but any help would be great! Thanks..
Hi I have a question. I run multiple subwoofers for the many reasons you stated. Currently I am using the speaker inputs which works fantastic. However, I am migrating to a system where the subwoofer outputs will be low level outputs with no option for speaker inputs. All three of my subwoofers, except for one, have L/R inputs and no LFE inputs because they are older. How do I daisy chain these subwoofers together? Will I need to buy 6 y splitters to do this? (I'm thinking, two male to 1 female y splitter plugs into the subwoofer, and then 1 male to two female y splitter plugs into that to daisy chain). I should add that none of these subwoofers have outputs on them for proper daisy chaining, so I believe y splitting is my only option. Or perhaps the miniDSP device you talked about, but I am not quite there yet.
Hi I’m a newbie. The processor I’m looking at has only one XLR output connection and a left and right sub XLR output connection. The Subwoofer has a XLR slave out and XLR LFE master input. It also has LFE and Line in RCA connections. The Subwoofer instructions say that the Slave subwoofer units each have their own phase and PEQ adjustment, allowing for placement apart from each other. What would be the optimal way of connecting this sub to the processor? Would I still be able to use the bass management settings in the processor if I connected the XLR LFE output to the XLR LFE input on the subwoofer and daisy chain via XLR?
Oh wait i think all three are LFE XLR outputs. I would amp assign those to object based and I guess perhaps upgrade by getting another module for XLR LFE output. I’m looking at the Emotiva RMC-1
Hi Gene & Hugo, thanks for the great videos you guys produce. In the case of receivers with dual outputs and indepent levels and delays, are th receiver manufacturers making assumptions about where the subs will be placed (for instance sub 1 and sub 2 both placed at the front of the room, or sub 1 at the front of the room and sub 2 at the back of the room)? If they are making assumptions about placement, does it matter given the independent level and distance controls, or are there certain sub placements that should be avoided?
No the receiver is stupid and doesn't know or care where your subs are. Some manufacturers offer "Front" and "Rear" sub settings for simple labeling while others only send LFE to one of the subs. It's always best to choose "2 sub mono mix" when that option is given to assure LFE goes to both subs.
i wanted to add a 2nd sub,my sub is REL T7, very musical I love its sound. but its no longer in production. i keep reading good reviews about SVS. ge t a used rel or two new svs. how to plug them .
great videos guys, i have 2 super cube 4000 and 2 Motion40 towers as front speakers should i cut them at 40hz or run them as full band, thanks I'm kind of new in these stuff
It's always best to send the mid bass frequencies to a subwoofer instead of the mains and use a receivers bass mgmt. setting the mains to small and the low pass filter at 80 Hz for non localizable bass. Your mains will perform better and the extra bass that your receivers power supply would have had to carry is now offloaded to the sub's amp. A win, win. Hope this helps.
I would simply let the subs handle all low frequencies. I have huge Klipsch Ref IV front tower speakers and still set them to small. All my crossovers on all 5 speakers are at 80Hz. Sub is also at 80Hz crossover. These audioholics videos tought me so much...
Thank you guys for the recommendation
Off topic here but i was wondering what could be the cause of sound quality variances throughout the day. At times I notice a volume drop, less bass and overall oopmh to the sound. I have measured the voltage randomly and it varies from about 117 to 122v. Sucks because the sound difference is significant. Is there a way to avoid this and keep the sound consistant? Thanks
Probably nothing to do with line voltage. Sounds like something is off in your calibration or maybe your subs auto-on feature is not engaging with signal present. Check your levels, make sure all your speakers are working.
I don't see any links to a mini DSP device.
What position in the front should I have my 12 and my 10 thanks
hi sir, can you help me please I have a Denon amp AVR 3803 I want to hook it up with a Blu-ray but I got no HDMI input, at the moment I don't want to replace my amp still working fine have a good sound. so do you think there is a way to hook up my Blu-ray to my amp.
Thanks
i have a denon x-2000 and a polk audio psw 10 i hooked up my mediabridge subwoofer Y cable and for some reason it is not working but if i take a Y cable connection piece and rca it works.....any cause for concern? -Paul
If the recievr has only one sub woofer channel,and we connect 2 sub woofers, will it gives real result of 2 sub woofer channels ???
the subwoofer/LFE channel is mono with a few exceptions where you'd want to run stereo bass L/R subs if your mains are crossed over above 80Hz. Single sub out is fine to run 2 subs off of. If you want delay control to better time align them, you'll need an external DSP box to compensate however.
@@Audioholics thanks for your reply.. I have one more question. I am unable to fast forward MP3 content with usb playback with my yamaha rxv 485 reciever.The forward button also has the function of radio station tuning in this reciever.Or is it not possible to fast forward MP3 content in Av recievers ??
Thanks
Sabari
am having a pioneer receiver vsx320 with one sub pre out and am having 2 subwoofer pioneer can i connect together by means of y connection, and is there any effect for using 2 subwoofer in one sub preout.
You can also use a line output converter if the receiver doesn't have sub pre out outputs.
Hi there, Id like your thoughts on which you would choose and why between these receivers:
Yamaha Aventage RX-A3060
Denon AVR-X6200W
Pioneer SC-LX89
Please help. My set-up 7.1.2
Im interested in audio quality and calibration mainly.
Thanks heaps.
Scott
The Yamaha has a new PEQ that goes own to 15Hz. Audioholics has a video on this insane AVR. It is my next AVR for sure.
hey guy's, I just bought some jbl lsr308 studio monitors... and holy hot damn... can you guys show some input on how good a studio monitor can be as far as a flat sound. I can't believe the sound from these things... input from you guy's on this would be radical... peace from reno, nv
Hi i have a bash 300S how i plug 2 woofers or i need 2 amp? 1 for each woofer
How important is it to use matching subs? For example, I own an SVS PB 13 Ultra and due to space constraints I would like to use a second smaller sub in my HT room setup. I am thinking of one of SVS cylinder subs.
Ideally you'd want to use all the same subs for best modal manipulation and xfer function but you can still use mismatched subs if they similar output capabilities. You can use EQ to better tune mismatched subs as well.
What's that item on the left that's responding to your voice?
It seem strange to talk of higher info on types of receivers that don,t have the proper outputs.Why would a person use multi subs on a two channel receiver rather than purchasing a multi channel receiver with the proper inputs and outputs? I am 76 years old and I purchased a dozen receivers with the changes 2 Stereo,Quadraphonic,5.1,6.1, 7.1and HI DEF audio 3D 7.2 receivers. not gone for Dolby Atmos because in Buffalo,New York not one of Theaters have Dolby Atmos nearest is Toronto Canada and it's 2017.
Can someone tell me how I should figure out phase settings when using multiple subwoofers??
so with the Aventage 1050 having 2 sub outputs in mono, which minidsp would you recommend?
I can help with this. The 2x4 balanced is the MiniDSP Gene uses but you'll have to cut some short RCA cables up and strip and separate them plus make a couple of jumper wires if making unbalanced connections. There's an online tutorial a guy did a few years ago showing how to do it with pics. The other way would be to find already made RCA to Phoenix connectors online. Many use the unbalanced MiniDSP 2x4 with only RCA connections which is easier but the output voltage is less than half as much . Best to check with your subwoofer manufacture to find out the subwoofers input sensitivity to verify the unbalanced MiniDSP would work. Mostly they do but there are stories of sub's that have had issues. The third option would be the newer MiniDSP 2x4HD which has more filters, features and processing power but also uses only RCA connections and has a higher output voltage like the balanced MiniDSP 2x4 but costs more money. With any of these you'll need to also purchase the correct software plug in for your use, a calibrated USB mic (to use on a laptop with the freeware software Room Equalization Wizard) and the external power supply in the case of the unbalanced MiniDSP 2x4. The MiniDSP 2x4 HD comes with the power supply. Hope this helps.
Austin Jerry on AVS Forums is the go to guru on anything MiniDSP "non HD" version and is an invaluable asset to any beginner with a detailed tutorial attached to his signature page and through online in forum support. There's a bit of a learning curve but if you stick with it the payoffs especially with multiple sub's can be huge.
So to add just one more sub, I need to do a Frankenstein cable to the mDSP? Can I not just put 2 receiver outputs to the 2 inputs of the 2X4, then 2 out, 1 to each sub in stereo now? I know I have some research to do lol. Thanks for the reply and feedback.
sanchezzz1 Lol. No the Frankenstein option would be just if you bought the balanced 2x4 MiniDSP with Phoenix connections. You'd basically get short length RCA cables ( one for the input and 2 for the output ) and cut off the connector going into and out of the MiniDSP . Roll up the insulating material and separate the other 2 wires and insert them into the correct Phoenix connections on the MiniDSP. When not using true balanced XLR connectors in a pre pro, receiver or subwoofer the extra step you do with the balanced MiniDSP is to make, with spare short insulated wire, jumper wires between the separate Phoenix connectors and your done. I'll try to find the tutorial link I found showing how to do it but honestly without the point of the lesser output voltage to your subs being an issue I would just get the unbalanced MiniDSP 2x4 with standard RCA hookups. The other option is the new MiniDSP 2x4 HD which uses only RCA connections plus has the increased output voltage to the sub's that the MiniDSP 2x4 balanced has as well as a better processor, more filter options and filtering options in the time domain not just the frequency domain but the main reason I'd get the HD version isn't for that last reason. It would be for the better processor, higher output voltage and extra filter options in the frequency domain.
Austin Jerry actually recommends using a 2 way to 1 RCA splitter from a receivers sub output if it has dual sub outputs and just use the one RCA input on the MiniDSP . Then use 2 separate RCA cables for the MiniDSP's outputs to the sub's. He has instructions on how to do this in a tutorial linked in his AVS forums signature. So to sum it all up the options are as follows:
1) MiniDSP 2x4 balanced and cut up short RCA cables plus make jumper wires for the Phoenix connections .
2) MiniDSP 2x4 unbalanced and just use the RCA connections but verify through your subwoofer manufacture that the DSP's output voltage is sufficient for your sub's (most are.)
3) MiniDSP 2x4 HD (more money.) Just uses the RCA connections but it has the higher output voltage of the MiniDSP 2x4 balanced along with more frequency filters and a better processor but is not specifically supported by Austin Jerry who offers in forum tech support for the other 2 DSP's.
+sanchezzz1 Ok, I found that link to the tutorial for making the RCA to Phoenix connections.
seriousaudioblog.blogspot.com/2012/06/easy-rca-inputs-and-outputs-for-2x4.html?m=1
Thanks Thomas, I would prefer the HD but for the extra 110. I might attempt the 'Frankenstein lol with the mic costs of 100. everything adds up. But I may just save up a little longer an do it right! Either way I have some research to do and a lot to take in.
can two Vizio vht510 wireless subwoofer be connected at the same time? I bought another woofer from a friend had same model but I can't figure out how to connect iam thinking maybe it cannot be pair .but if anyone know away please let me know.thank you.
could i daisy chain from the left speaker to a powered sub?
Can I use a y splitter from my Onkyo 838 output if my subwoofer has a left & right input (svs)
You can if your sub's input sensitivity is an issue or you want to use the line input connections instead for less chance of LF interference and want to use your sub's built in phase knob and LPF but most find it easier to just use a sub's dedicated single LFE input and set their sub's LPF switch all the way over and just let the receiver's bass mgmt handle the rest.
Hi, I have 2 identical Subs which have a phase switch and was told that one sub should be set to phase 0 and other set to phase 180. Is this correct? I have 2 LFE outputs from my AV Receiver.
Usually you want to keep both subs at the same phase but it really depends how they interact in the room with each other and your main speakers. You need to test with some bass tones, or wideband pinknoise and an SPL meter.
connection diagrans woukd be nice for multisubs and daisychaining and using minidsp to av recievers
What about multi sub placement
this went over my head in about 10 seconds lol.
Can u tell how to add 2 more speaker to 5.1 Yamaha
Thank you guys for the recommendation
Any graphs you can provide for dasy chain connections please
Hmm I'd have to look. Basically connect line out of your receiver to line in of sub 1, then line out of sub 1 to line in of sub 2, and repeat until you run out of subs :)
@@Audioholics is a center channel speaker a sub-woffer?
Nice! love your channel.
In order to setup my receiver using Room EQ Wizard do I need a good discrete sound card or the motherboard sound will do?
Using a calibrated USB mic and the ASIO drivers provided by REW during setup sidestep that issue.
I would not use the motherboard's sound... too much interference with other components (you will get some white noise)... Ever tried hooking up your Graphics card via HDMI to your receiver? I use a GTX 980 as a sound source for my PC. The sounds are set to 192KHZ in 5.1 24 bit audio as well through a Yamaha RX-2000... you'd be suprised how well a GPU can output sound. It also supports all the Latest DTS and DOLBY features for bluray playback. Sound cards are not all that used anymore... Motherboards are starting to not have a PCI slot in there designs. I had and still have an Auzentech HDMI sound card but it never really worked as the drivers are out of date and now unsupported. If you have questions about PC gaming/movie audio setup with a receiver, PM me. I'm at my third PC audio couch setup.
Yeah. I'm sorry I didn't add that last part about then hooking an HDMI cable directly to the receiver when using REW on a laptop with a USB Mic. I'll definitely let you know if I have any questions. I haven't messed with my laptop/receiver interface in a while. Good to have another knowledge base to pull from. Thanks.
How would I connect two Velodyne DD-15 together. Use the Daisy link method or use both the sup outs on my Marantz AV8802A?
Marantz 8802A has dual independent sub outs. Use them so you can optimize level and delay for each sub separately.
Thanks. I currently have a velodyne digital drive dd-15. I want a second sub but another DD-15 is out of my price range. I am looking at the new SVS SB 4000 as a match. The SVS 13 ultra SB was less in power and the SVS 16 ultra SB was over . Any suggestions would help.
Charles; I actually have 2 DD-15+ subs in cherry finish and mint condition. I'm selling one for $2k + shipping. Only reason I am selling is I have 5 subs now and 4 is enough for my room. Great product! Otherwise go with an SB-4000 as it's a very comparable product at a good value. It is however nice to match subs when you can however.
If you live in the USA, feel free to email me: gds@audioholics.com before I list it for sale.
Is it ok to use 2 different subs together? I have a B&W 10" sub and a Paradigm 8" sub. I'm guessing they would have to be eq'd separately.
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Hugo, where is the link to the minidsp video?
ua-cam.com/video/Mq05vAAnryY/v-deo.html
Thanks mate
How do I connect two subwoofer in my 5.1 onkyo tx -nr 535 reciever, thanks,,,,
I use a mono amp. Then I just double up the the speaker wires to the two poles (run in parallel)
Will you guys come setup my system for me!! PLEASE!! 😫
Can you use two different subs as a duel set up?
you can but for optimal results they need to be closely matched but you can do it and play with individual settings to get them matched as best u can
Yes. In fact, I'd recommend it. I replaced a Klipsch Synergy 10-Inch Subwoofer that blew its amp, with a VSV-SB2000. This VSV is now paired with a Validyne 10-Inch Subwoofer with a passive radiator under it. Unfortunately, the Validyne’s passive radiator slows down the reactivity of the speaker. This gives it distinct similarities to the sound that comes from my VSV-SB2000 (only at a much lower volume level). I say this because the Klipsch reproduced some frequencies better than either of the other two Subwoofers. Its ported box and smaller size speaker gives it a reactivity advantage; the higher bass frequencies (40 to 100 Hz) are a little tighter. The VSV-SB2000, for quality and loudness, significantly beats the other two. SVS sells ported and sealed boxes, and different size speakers and power amps, for a good reason; they each have their strengths and weaknesses. There is no “one” perfect sub at any price. It’s better to have two different subwoofers in a system that complement each other by creating a fuller sound. **** I do intend to replace my Validyne, only because it is too similar to my new VSV-SB2000. I may go with the VSV-SB1000, The VSV brand impresses me. The visual symmetry of having two of the same subwoofers is astatically pleasing, but I believe that using two different subwoofers with different strengths and weaknesses will give me a more versatile and better sounding system.
You mean SVS - SB-2000 ?
Where did Hugo go?
"we're here to pump you up"
Mmmmm...Bass, the final frontier!
Enjoyable, but Hugo.... You ask too many questions... LOL :-D
My challenge is that I do have a Krell KAV 400-xi where you cannot split the pre / power sections, and additionally my Duntech sprakers really need a high-pass filter to maximize them as the low bass interferes too much with midrange when they're pushed.... Just too much excursion on the mid/woofer.
Really only way that I see is to run the Duntech's full range or change amplifier; unless you do have a very creative suggestion????
Bring Back Hugo!!!
thank you thank you!
Just a note Gene when doing daisy chain of subs using sub in and sub out to a second sub you have to watch out as the output may have a fixed or variable high pass filter on it which would kill most of the bass to the second sub. it varies a lot by model and maker as to how the sub outs are wired up. an alternative If this is an issue for your sub is to use a 2 rca to 1 rca adapter at the first subs input so that you can link the second sub in without having to cable back to the AVR.
I've never seen this happen with subs but I guess it's a good idea to always consult the manual. Most line outs of subs are just a parallel buffered connection to the line inputs from my experience.
Hi guys,
You have some great videos. If you get a chance, can you watch a number of videos from Dennis Foley of Acoustic Fields and respond or comment on them. Perhaps you have heard of him or read some of his work. He sounds very knowledgeable on the subject of bass management and seems like a no BS kind of guy like you two.
Thanks.
I saw some of his stuff, mostly on subwoofer placement. I don't agree with his subwoofer placement tips but he does seem like a nice guy.
Thx for this think ill go from my one suboutput on my pioneer svx reciever and the wire you described.
I subscbd you, i always see your videos, but i have to say this ... Did you record this vid on the 90´s ? C´mon, you can do a lot better than this... 720p.
Must be your browser my friend. This video was shot in 1080p.
Well, my Chrome says that this vid is in 480p, and the remaining ones are in 720p/1080p, i have just seen a few secs ago.You know, never mind. Cheers. (ClipConverter says the same, i tried, just.. because)
+Audioholics I have to say I agree with him in some regard. It maybe be displaying in 1080 it just looks off and I have watched your stuff on many different platforms.. The audio always sounds great but there's something about your recording quality.. Great tips on the subs btw. Thanks guys.
On my end it also only shows up in 480p as maximum, Google Chrome. All other stuff i normally watch on UA-cam has 1080p on this same machine.
something weird happened with the upload. We will have to re-render in 1080p. Thanks.
I feel spoiled my AVR has 4 sub outputs.😁
Which AVR?
Asuming is a start
Going multisub but the thing is I have a 10 and a 12
are you kidding me 480 res... its 2017 filmed in 2016 step it up guys...
You got a problem with my DVD collection? :D
Clearly they are audio guys and not video guys
i want that cosmos lamp
It's XOUNTS!
Pretty Good Presentation on Vanilla Sub-Woofer Essentials. HOWEVER: NO ONE ADDRESSES THE LOW FREQUENCY BROADCASTS/RECORDING ESP. IN ATMOS & DTS-X. BOTH my S-Woofers in My Marantz Home Theater ARE SET TO LFE & Speakers to 'Small'. WE'RE TELLING YOU THAT NOT ALL RECORDINGS WILL INCLUDE BASS -- MANY TIMES ONLY SPECIAL DOLBY - DTS SIGNALS WILL INCLUDE ;LFE SIGNALS.... MEANING - There Often IS NO BASS ON REGULAR RECORDINGS --- BECASUE THERE IS NO FLE SIGNAL.
You guys need to invest in better camera gear. The picture quality might have been ok 5 years ago but now it is just painful to watch. I bought my first Full HD camera 5 years ago and I was seriously behind the curve. Get with the times, fellas.
The video was accidentally uploaded in non-HD. The HD version can be seen here and the camera used for this video is of very high quality:
ua-cam.com/video/VwIUEOQ_ujU/v-deo.html
Holy shit I was lost after the “assume” section of video
Funny, i've answered this three times last week too... Y-splitters and "LFE is not sub" is still the main problem. Basically, this is repeating my words from one group almost verbatim, co-incidence i'm sure but just funny.
EDIT: NEVER EVER split more than once!!!!!! This is extremely stupid to suggest 3-4 from one output. True, it most likely will work but we need to have four absolutely identical subwoofer inputs and still, every little feedback it can even theoretically do, will be amplified. One can get away with one passive split but not two or more. Will it work? 99% of the time. The 1% is what scares me, one unit fails, 4 unit fails. The summing should never happen externally and passive, on a piece of wire we don't know about, we have to to it do active and contained.
No if's and but's: active splitter.
Signal splitters are STUPIDLY cheap, you can get 4/8 active splitter, every channel isolated with less than 50$ and with "pro audio" specs. I can split one channel to 128 duplicates with the cheapest active splitters in the market and never hear a change. The video starts so nice but fails at that one point.
you're very wrong about your points. An output can be split into 4 parallel connections each going to a high impedence input buffer of a subwoofer. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this and its done all the time. Sure a device that breaks the signal into 4 outputs with individual gain and level control is preferred but the passive approach works.
Audioholics The point is not that it works, it is about one of those units having a catastrophic failure and that unit is then hardwired to three other unit input. It is about impedances between the units; we have one that has half, guess what has just happened to our gain structure? There are millions of examples why you NEVER use more than one passive split.
You guys should know perfectly well not to suggest using even ONE Y-splitter as that is not at all how we should do it. One split is accepted as "ad hoc", if we don't have an active splitter at the moment, show is in half an hour, we MAY use y-splitter temporarily. It is a practice that can get your face on the Wall of Shame.
You are audio engineers with a degree, right?
+SquidCaps ok so 1 split is ok but not 2? that's puzzling. show me the failures. been doing it for years without incident and manufactures even suggest it too but you're entitled to your opinion. It's good to be cautious but I don't see how an input feedback can cause another unit to fail.
When you have two variables, it is quite easy to control it. Once you have three, it becomes exponentially harder to control it. The fact is that we do have quite stable inputs and we don't have feedbacks. If all goes well, that is.. Just one of the units exhibiting weird behavior will change the inputs on all units. To even begin to start to think about it, we need to have four identical subwoofers. Or ones that are measured to match.
Guess how many of your audience knows how to use a freaking 5$ multimeter? So, why suggest something that a seasoned profession would not use unless at extreme panic to a total amateurs who still believe cables are directional?
So, just don't suggest sub par methods to total noobs. Will it work? Most likely yes but "most likely" will not come 100m closer to my work. "most likely" is not good enough. You do it once, you do it well or you don't do it at all. Signal splitters are dirt cheap.
+SquidCaps sorry but you are wrong on many accounts. you don't need identical subs regardless. also rewatch our video. I recommend a combo of Y-splitting and daisy chaining which gives you isolation buffers between stages. Please try not to misinform and rewatch.
4 years old and recorded in 480p?...
Talk about 4 topics at one time . Seriously guys .