Delphi Murders | Transcripts Released Between Richard Allen's Defense and Judge Gull
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- Richard Allen is accused of killing teen girls Abigail Williams and Libby German in the #DelphiMurders. Allen maintains his innocence and claims Odinists killed the girls. However, the case has been making recent headlines over interactions between Allen's defense and Judge Frances Gull. Allen's former attorneys, Andrew Baldwin and Brad Rozzi, claim the judge forced them to withdraw from the case during a closed-door meeting. Now, the transcripts of that meeting have been released. #CourtTV breaks it down and reveals what exactly happened.
What do YOU think?
00:00 STATE OF THE CASE
17:38 INMATE/ODINIST ALLEGATIONS
32:15 REMEMBERING ABBY AND LIBBY
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00:00 STATE OF THE CASE
17:38 INMATE/ODINIST ALLEGATIONS
32:15 REMEMBERING ABBY AND LIBBY
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Thank you for the time stamps! Very helpful ❤
Stretching it,calling it "facts"...guy one the bridge identified, spoken to and cleared, he was not involved, according to LE in 2019,just after YBG photo released. Libby also never recorded anyone on that phone, if that man wasn't involved, it was all faked to confuse investigators...try and keep up,go back and listen to Doug Carter's monologues!
Is there any place where we can read the entirety of the transcripts ourselves?
There is no doubt in my mind that these two precious girls were sacrificed for an occult ritual. No need for proof. There is a spiritual war happening that is kicking in higher gear. We are witnessing this before our eyes. God Almighty, our Creator, has a plan which also onsists of using these two defense attorneys. Evil is real & its here in a deeper force than before. So just as well there are good forces here at work.🔘
Tabloid television
The corruption in small towns and their law enforcement is appalling.
I live in a small town in indiana and it’s wild.
@@TheFifthOfNovember93 care to share specifics?
Indiana small towns are filled with inbred trailer trash white supremacists. They’re scared of anyone who doesn’t look like them so they hate. Very weak individuals.
@@lynnmarble8456😂😂😂
@@williamrae9954 you find corruption funny?
Judge Gull needs to go!
How could it be sheer coincidence that Libby and Abby communicated with the Anthony Shotts profile and were supposed to meet up with "him" that same day, same time as a murderer who had no conmection whatsoever to the profile???
This whole case is bizzare. Just because the guy posing as Anthony shots says he had nothing to do with it, they believe him??? But RA says he had nothing to do with it and they torture him into a false confession. RA doesn't seem like a pedophile
Judge must go
Judge must go
Judge must go
You must go
You must go
You must go
Touch some grass
So infantile
Something stinks in Delphi! Those transcripts really make it stink that much more!
The judge should be fired.. this puts our whole justice system in question…
I thought is was really odd to send this man to a prison instead of jail. From the beginning
I think they know they don't have a case against him, so they are hoping to beat a confession out of him in prison or kill him...
@jimbobsconscience5159 it's so sick. I think Allen is innocent and they want all this to go away 😕 he's getting treated badly imo
It was for his own safety, he wouldn't make it in the county jail
also the original judge recused himself immediately after, citing 'concerns for personal safety', it's ALL bullshit
@@mistyreed6800 Yet every other high profile defendant is protected just fine in County.
What's going on in that court is very suspicious. Not following court procedures make me believe their is a cover-up going on. Who and what are they covering up?
Very powerful people of the likes of Epstein just like the Jews with their tunnels in New York. I am telling you this is a world cult if different factions. God will end earth because of it.
The state supreme court needs to intervene. Even though his attorneys were appointed to him, a defendant should absolutely have the right to keep those attorneys. As various legal experts have said, it's highly unusual for a judge to essentially force the attorneys off a case like this.
They literally leaked evidence they should be disbarred
They are investigating
That's why we are rallying at the statehouse Monday!
Didn’t one of the attorneys say he will do it pro bono and that still was not allowed?
I’m not here to defend or condone the actions here but you actually have less right to continuity of counsel as an indigent defendant than you do when you retain private counsel.
Justice is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Ok come for me in the comments. When did America become guilt before innocent? Open your eyes. I want Justice for these girls.
Mah innocent till proven guilty 😂 muh Odin's, muh 6th amendment
@@Jasmine-Graves You may learn more than you want to; today it is Richard Allen (and many others) but tomorrow it is you or someone you deeply care about and you KNOW it’s not true. Should read some history.
@@dawnclabaugh3598 my uncles already been convicted of a similar crime
I don’t want to live in a country where the state decides who’s guilty before a trial and that person has to prove they are innocent. This case is a sham. Where is the actual evidence?! The spent bullet is not enough and can hardly be linked to his exact firearm!
@@dawnclabaugh3598facts
Let the EVIDENCE come out in the trial before screaming innocent/ guilty.
Judge Gull looks like one of the bosses you fight at the end of the level of Super Mario Brothers. You expect like fire-balls to fly from her head any second.
Gull is on record now demonstrating that she has preconceived ideas of how the defense should be defending their client - NOT her job! She is not impartial.
Doesn't the judge get to ok the defense?
@@happycappy-jn6jcNo. If someone wants to be represented by someone why should a judge be able to prevent him from having the representative that he feels safe with especially when it's his life on the line.
@@Shannon-co5gp they were bad lawyers but keep crying and sayin but muh judge is corrupt muh police is corrupt muh odinist muh 6th amendment
@Shannon-co5gp muh innocent till proven guilty
I live where that judge is from. I can NOT believe they let her on a high profile case.
I knew the Delphi case was going to be a problem from the beginning. The police dropped the ball from the beginning and that lasted six years. Now you have the judge and the lawyers fighting. I don't think they're capable of being professionals.
I don’t believe it was investigated for so long, cuZ i have a strong hunch law enforcement was and is involved, while they attempted to control the outcome. It was only until the real pressure was on, particularly by a large public audience & SM sleuths that they framed RA 💁🏼♀️
So sad
Why is this happening should be the question.
I think the 2 defense lawyers have been quite professional when in the judge's chambers they are ambushed and their perfect records with no discipline tarnished with no due process.
Actually, the original PCA against Ron Logan didn’t have a bullet mentioned. The problem was they were going to frame Ron Logan for the murders, but he violated his parole and was not at the location. Houston, we have a problem.
Next On the docket comes Richard Allen, even though he doesn’t fit the bridge guy profile. (I have my doubts if that video is even real)
On The second PCA Tony Liggett lies to the judge to get the bullet introduced. Of course judge Deiner approve the PCA, and then recuses himself. Why you ask? Because he was the judge that presided over Nick Mcleland’s fathers arson case that took the lives of 3 people before he most likely burnt the Flora house out murdering the 4 little girls which may have been discovered by Liberty German.
Her fate was sealed along with her best friends life.
The real gang are the free mason police that used the Odin boys to do their dirty work to cover the real crimes of Nick Mclelands family including Becky Patty used to do the Flora Fire house over inflated Appraisal who just happens to be related to Nick by marriage.
At this point, I have 0 confidence this court could determine who the right man is.
I’ve said this before- it seems like the authorities in Delphi are banking on RA dying in prison. How they hell he in there when he’s not convicted? Should be at home with ankle monitor if jail is “too dangerous.”
Agree! I don't trust law enforcement involved or Gull, or prosecutors.
I'm starting to question Richard Allen ever did this!
@@lovelyn2.0 He could be guilty as hell and walk because of this. He could be completely innocent and die because of this, I'll just never know.
@@lovelyn2.0 he's guilty watch Tom Webster's breakdown of this case
I am former Corrections and hearing that the guards were allowed to wear patches on their uniforms that were not of their department is appalling, alone. That is suspicious as all get out. If we put anything on our uniforms that was not DOC, we'd suffer discipline. Then, to hear what was said about the guards' treatment of him and Allen is extremely concerning. It sounds like excessive force and hostile living situations. This would not be allowed normally. It all screams suspicious. Another department needs to go in and investigate this whole situation in the prison and get Allen out of there. I'm not saying he's not a part of the killings, but he's innocent until proven guilty. But it sounds like he could end up dead before either could be proven. This is all sketchy and dangerous.
The entire legal system in Indiana is corrupt small towns are worse than the city. It's all about who you know.
With this case people are getting to see how inept, corrupt small town justice is.
Worse than that even is that the first suspect sketch released was NOT the man eyewitnesses saw. That sketch was taken from the video, NOT THE EYEWITNESSES. Which might not sound heinous until you know the video & audio released by police is not part of the video Libby recorded. It came before. Also the audio was spliced. Guys comes AFTER down the hill. Not before. THERE IS A REASON police are not releasing the video. It's because they manipulated the video and the audio. The man that took Abby and Libby per eyewitnesses appeared to be in his twenties. Not only was he seen in the bridge, he was seen "acting strange" on the private land past the bridge. Why aren't police telling that? This whole thing is a set up. The question is why? Maybe the answer has something to do with why Gelaine Maxwell is the only human on earth to be convicted of trafficking to no one. How is that possible? Whom are the debauched that Maxwell trafficked to? How can see be convicted if a crime that supposedly doesn't exist? If the people receiving trafficked don't exist then how were ppl trafficked?
@@bartimisfoul3459 ok take your tin foil hat off
@@phillipstroll7385 ok simping for Epstein not a good look stay away from kids
Absolutely agree
Delphi got some explaining to do. From the housing RA in prison to the Judge “forcing” RA’s defense team off the case! Ridiculous.
Yeah there seems to be a lot of corruption and covering for the cult out there in Delphi
A response to this is being censored by UA-cam. I can only assume it was a very truthful remark. The system is dirty
Imagine your child is killed and documents and photos of your dead child get leaked by the defense. Would you be fine with them staying on the case?
@@chief5981absolutely if that means the killers are still out there yes if I was aware and didn't have to see the photos I know the public would be outraged and want justice.
@@chief5981they were leaked almost a year ago sadly
Finally!! An unbiased CourtTV segment! Hats off to Michael and his guests! Bob Motto is a rockstar! 🙌
Gull needs to recuse herself she’s a danger for anyone whose life is on the line!
No, she needs to be disbarred....you don't have ex parte discussions behind closed doors - that is NOT a judges scope of practice, at all....
@@HapticFrequenciesIndiana is known for shady ex parte hearings, lol.
Google Natalia Grace's "legal aging" by a Marion county judge due to hearsay alone.
@@HapticFrequenciesagreed
Do not understand why Brian Kohberger wears a suit, no handcuffs while in court and Richard Allen is treated the way he is. Will it not prejudice the jury to his guilt. They seem to be treating him guilty before he has his trial. In my opinion
Well, Kohberger isnt eating paperwork, breaking tablets, and threatening to kill himself is he.
Allen is. Hence his SUICIDE SMOCK.
And yes..other people on charges ARE shackled in Carroll County
It is his attorneys position to provide a suit. They have told him not to wear anything but the orange to support the prisoner of war presentation.
It’s different courts. Different rules.
Kohberger should absolutely no t being wearing g a suit until trial. That never happens, he is actually getting special treatment. I have never seen this allowed before.
@@meganpersinger7194 it’s the law in Idaho. They also have the firing squad, if that’s any consolation.
What about Gull’s integrity? Sheesh 🙄
I'm not trying 2 minimize this by any means, but he's getting treated like he is a big time serial killer 🤔 things ain't right w this hole case
He’s not even been convicted of any crime and yet he’s being housed in a prison facility. With cult of Odin guards… weird 🤔
Clear as day: she gave them an ultimatum. I’m glad they have the transcripts. This ain’t over.
The Judge made this personal and that is wrong, pure and simple. She is suppose to be an arbiter of justice and impartial, yet now we’re talking about her incompetence. Step down Judge, Abby and Libby deserve better.
You talk as stupid as those two goofball lawyers. It's all about the Odinism😅😅😅Clowns.
Lol….I get a kick out of this because firstly, all they talk about on this channel anymore is speculation….u just act like its fact so demand the judge to,step down…what the hell has happened to critical thinking
No judge is ever impartial. It’s impossible for a human not to be bias.
✨40:15 Of the "three cops that continued to investigate...", one of them was murdered. Something definitely stinks in Delphi!!! Indiana, please get us justice for Abby and Libby!⚖️🙏
Sounds like something a cult would do… 🫣
Or a gang
😮
Y'all need help you guys take this ish too seriously
@@Jasmine-GravesWantin the truth about two girls who were murdered and not wanting to send an innocent man to prison is taking things too seriously? Are you mentally retarded?
Un-honorable Judge Gull should be taken off the bench permanently. This is outrageous, and gross negligence on her part. Justice for the girls, but this isn't the way to get it.
Yes it is when Richard Allen is found guilty y'all still gonna cry and say he was set up its never enough for you guys
@@Jasmine-Gravesyou slow or do you really think you know more than anyone else, not to mention you come with zero credentials. 🤡
@@Jasmine-Graveshow nice it must be to be you, with that ultra narrow mind that has all the answers, never mind the fact you haven't even seen all the evidence or heard a single argument. You label "us guys" what about people like you, who don't give a seconds thought to due process, innocent until proven guilty, and the fact this Judge has violated several rules of professional conduct.
Oh my, didn't realize I was crying. I thought I was expressing my opinion on the judge....not Richard Allen my dear. Where in my statement did I say he was not guilty? And if you think that lying and cheating on the judge's part is justice then, I think you should feel a little embarrassed 😳
@@Jasmine-GravesI know I don’t get it everyone acts like they feel worse for the killer than the victims it’s sad
I don't want to just see "a guy" in prison..I want to see the "rite guy/guys" in prison!!
Cant even spell right correctly you crazies never cease to amaze me
@@Jasmine-Graves Rite means correct Sweetie...😆
Right mean the opposite of left..🙄
@@katmack4215 ok sweetie
@@katmack4215actually RITE is a formal or ceremonial act that’s usually religious. It does NOT mean correct. RIGHT means in accordance to what is proper or just. Also in conformity with fact or reason. Also a legal claim. Finally it also means the opposite of left in reference to direction. So @Jasmine-Graves is correct. If you don’t believe me go check out a directionary
@@Jasmine-Graves
Go away you little nat
Gross Negligence or Most Intelligent? The court & the prosecution were scared. They didn’t expect the lawyers to do their job so well and put the pieces of the puzzle together. Removing them from RA’s defense is not fair.
That's what I think too..either they thot they wouldn't investigate or would just "go along w the plan" - wtvr their plan was. Makes ya wonder how many times similar things have happened to innocent ppl in my state & around the country bc I'm sure it's not just in Indiana but one could only hope
I don’t know why she didn’t hold a hearing before making a decision to remove them as counsel. My goodness. Also, it’s not surprising that the defense is saying they believe more than one person was involved-the prosecutor said that, too, as a reason for keeping court documents sealed, citing the ongoing investigation.
This case just gets even more weird. Corruption runs deep in small towns. That Judge did threaten to embarrass them publicly if they didn’t withdraw. They should have a right to Due process
💯 Agreed!!!
It's bc we're talking about Carroll County my whole life. And let me just tell you it's so corrupt it's not even funny. I use to party with the fire fighters, some of the cops, one of the judges. I mean come on. I won't say to much but just know it's very corrupt. And I still truly think it was someone with power that really did it.
The judge needs to be investigated, no doubt..
This whole thing is so so sad for these poor families who just want whatever justice is possible for their murdered baby girls. Absolutely heartbreaking it's like it's not even about them anymore.
In the end it is. For them to have justice, it has to be legal due process.
Libbys family doesn’t want Justice. Isn’t it obvious? They’re involved.
@@Blissfulnessence no it doesn't just take rick put back shouldn't be longer than an hour at most
This comment for example. Unintelligible. What are you even trying to say?
I'm finding gross negligence and incompetence with Judge Gull!
Lucky you don't have a say in court proceedings
@@Jasmine-Graveslooks as though you had to thumbs up your own comment compared to the other 47x that disagrees with you!!🤣
@@jinafromwv6391 didn't thumbs up my own comment
Yeah I think you did...🤥
@@lacywarner4123 no i didn't lucy
The Investigation is NOT even concluded..so how can this Judge take it upon herself to fire them,preemptively..😳
This is the most convoluted case I have ever seen in my entire life!!
@@VyrualDiora-absolutely right. Your a sane voice
@@VyrualDiora-A. Those photos were out a full year before this. B. Baldwin didn't release them. They were stolen from his office by a former employee. If they want to hold him responsible, fine. However, Rozzi is from a different firm; and, had nothing to do with it. He should not have been removed. There is buggery afoot in Delphi.
@@tonilharmon ok go take your meds who cares I just want Richard to found guilty already and let this be the end of it
@@VyrualDiora-They did not leak the photos, there is no evidence of that. A man that worked in the office leaked the photos to about 3 people before he took his own life. Fighting for constitutional rights and due process is what is going on here. The leak does not constitute gross negligence so then being kicked off of the case for that is appalling!
@@VyrualDiora-try again! His defense team did not leave the articles. It was a prior employee, who was a friend of one of their defense attorneys. How is that their fault?
WTF is going on!? I felt like they’ve had the wrong guy all along! But now I’m even more confused.
Im not saying u r wrong. But he looks like guy in tape and admitted 6 yrs ago he was there. Those 2 things are so hard to say he wasnt involved. Idk
@@careybogdanovic7 Witnesses saw a man "walking with a purpose'. His face partly covered. One said blue clothing one said black clothing. So RA put himself there till 1.30. Why do that if witnesses could not identify face?
@@robyntopham9062 he put himself there until 1:30 which was a lie. He later changed the time he got there after witnesses came forward which lined up with his new time. So you have a suspect who matches the man in the victims video, who also matches multiples witness descriptions who we know by his own admission was there at the time of the murders and lied to police.
The answer is very simple.
@@ItsSVO No amount of info will alter your thoughts on this case. 'He lied' is proven how? He saw three minors. One best friend of Libby's sister. They were leaving, he was headed to bridge. There were other people there, male and female. Open, public trails. One man abducts, murders, staged two barely teen girls. Nothing found by myriads of searchers till next day. You go with your view I'll stick with mine. Prosecution and LE don't question what that discovery site looked like, what was there. Abby wearing clothes belonging to Libby. Not clothes fitting last seen description. Innocent till proven guilty. Keep RA alive till trial would be a good thing. Dead men tell no tales. You are entitled to your opinion, as am I.
* The Image of BG could be a Third of males in Indiana. This image is the proverbial 'red herring' but you wouldn't be interested. This horrendously cruel murder is anything but simple.
Not sure how anybody could thing he is innocent. There is a bunch of evidence against him including his own words on the phone 5 times at least confessing to his wife and mother.
Gull is a mess. She appears to be corrupt and incompetent.
We need a new judge on this case
The transcripts released from the meeting in Judge Gulls chambers are outrageous. Everything Mr. Rozzi has been saying is true. Where was the Prosecutor? Why did he not speak up? He's an officer of the court and this was a violation of due process.
What if the defense leaked (or allowed to be leaked) the photos to advance the Odinist narrative? Just a thought, doesn’t justify the Judge steamrolling the defense.
Slick Nick was there! He put his twopennyworth in.
Check prosecutor's arrest record
Slick Nick is who brought it up … he suggested the DQ during the group call…. And with no pleading.. no opportunity to respond… no hearing Skick Nick participated in a violation of rights…. Prosecutors do not fight for rights… that is what Defense have to do…
Ive been following this case from day 1. With more and more of the case coming out… the more angrier I get
"Unexpected" turn of events? Premeditated. She lied so easily it's frightening. What else is she being deceitful about?
I don't see how leaking crimscene evidence was anything other than gross negligence. I don't see how she lied.
@@nevadatan7323 that’s not what the above post said was the lie.
She lied that it was unexpected when she had clearly planned everything ahead of time by her own statements. Reading the transcript could help you to understand the context.
More evidence Richard Allen had help
Exactly, she should have read the letter anyway. Now it 1000% looks like a strong arm.
@@nevadatan7323gross negligence is not the standard to remove attorneys anyways. Assuming they even did what they are accused of.
In Delphi, you are guilty until innocent. You lose your attorneys without your knowledge, you are put in a prison without a guilty verdict, you are mistreated as a child killer without a trial and a guilty verdict. What if he is not the killer? What if Delphi has the wrong guy? What if it is not a one man action? There are too many what if's.
There aren't too many what ifs just wait till the trial because there's still a whole heck of alot of explaining that Richard Allen has to do at trial
@@Jasmine-Gravesare you psychic then? People like you should NEVER be allowed on a jury.
@@montanagal6891 im 16 i dont think im alowed
I remember the old man whose property the girls were found on , he went thru hell, they went after him. He died.
The optics speak volumes...RA is handled like a convicted terrorist, not a man with next to no evidence against him, nothing that can be planted,or explained away
Judge Gull has some explaining to do! Ever since this whole twisted case ever started it just does not add up! It is 1 theory after another & it never ends! These poor beautiful little girls need justice!
Justice for Abby&Libby!⚖️
Judge overreached here imo.
Gross negligence requires a judge to enter findings on the record. Gull has intentionally avoided that because it would bring even more of a spotlight on her. The problem for her, and her partners on the prosecution, is that gross negligence technically never happened if no findings were entered. Its basically just descriptive words and conversation by the judge and she used it as grounds to throw them off the case. The IN Supreme Court is going to have trouble even wrapping their head around her behavior.
At this point its not an exaggeration to say Judge Gull has been grossly negligent.
Actually the judge was trying to do threm a favor so they wouldn't be publicly shamed but now they done it to themselves and everyone knows for their negligence now! Richard Allen is the bridge guy he is the killer obviously!
Idk if he's innocent or guilty but I don't think he should be held without bond. There's just not enough evidence to say he's definitively involved or they have enough circumstantial evidence to deny bail. It seems like their trying to break this guy and prematurely hang this around his neck. It feels as if his due process is being violated
These snafus increase the likelihood that any conviction will be overturned
@@hilriekemp Given the nature of this crime he shouldn't have a bond period in fact if this was 100 years ago he would have been lynched already!
@@raptorman48 well that's just ignorant asf and there's no way in heck he should be held without bond. Not even Darrell Brooks who was caught red handed with the car keys on him and his cell phone in the vehicle with video footage of him behind the wheel wasn't denied bond. Granted it was 5 million but he was still afforded bond. They don't have any circumstantial evidence and if they keep screwing him over he's going to get this thing overturned in the appeals process if convicted. And it's not up to the judge or police to decide his guilt it's up to the jury. And don't ever use that word lynching again this ain't the 1900's and everyone is afforded due process.
The only person conducting gross negligence in this case is Gull.
Gross Negligence or Most Intelligent?! I think the court & the state was scared. These lawyers were doing there job to well!
💯 Fire Gull
Meanwhile thiat killer is trying his hardest to walk free!
They treat him like a guilty guy
There’s like 8 cops behind him and he’s in chain
I watch the other suspects and they don’t treat them like that at all
This whole case is probably the most strangest one I’ve ever heard of.
GULL has to GO!!!!!
💯
Judge Gull needs to get with all her Odin brotherhood members and recuse herself. Its very obvious she is not in the for the right reasons, and is not giving this man a fair trial.
Judge Gull is a 🤡
Thought the same
I'm sorry the man on the bridge LOOK'S NOTHING LIKE RICHARD ALLEN
Man, those kids did nothing wrong. And as a parent we SHOULD be able to let our kids go on a hike. But we all know the world is not always a safe place. Tragedy.
Who has said the kids did something wrong?
@@Jedstop no one but they ate victimising the kids by simping for their killer
@@Jasmine-Gravesno one is simping for their killer. No one knows who the killer is. There is flimsy evidence against this defendant, he won't get a fair trial, will likely get a mistrial, acquittal or years of appeals. If he's the killer, how is that getting justice for Abby and Libby? If he's not the killer there is still no justice.
Any one of you in the USA could be in this position tomorrow just because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Wouldn't you want due process and a fair trial?
Those who think he IS the killer, you should all be wanting this process to be done above board more than anyone so he is put into prison where he belongs and doesn't get the chance to get out.
@@CW1971save your breath. She's a troll. She's a bootlicker who can't get enough pig cock down her throat! It's okay, it's best just to let the mentally retarded be! 😂
@@CW1971in all fairness, a bullet from my gun has never been located in a murder scene.
Im starting to think a police man committted this crime and someone is covering for them.
Maybe police man was a cult member too. I wouldn’t doubt it
VERY possible
Nah...they have the right guy. Its clearly him in the picture. And within a few seconds of that pic the girls had a gun on them being told down the hill. The right guy is in jail.
@@LaLaLonnaI think RA was involved for sure. He had help !! 😢
My exact thoughts. Just speculating but from the get go Doug Carter has always seemed creepy to me.
Judge 👩⚖️ Gull is acting the exact same way I would think a high ranking priestess in the cult of Odin would act as a judge in this case. 🤔 Weird…
The judge should be removed‼️😳😳😳😡😡
Judge Gal whatever her name is she does not seem professional enough for this. She goes on to say that defense counsel is not required to cooperate with the new councel but she then says again that they are required. I think she needs to go.
I find it very interesting when Susan Hendrix did the interview with Kelsey German the song they were listening to was heathens by twenty one pilots. “You never know the murderer sitting next to you” is one of the lines.
Very telling Looking back on this now and the fact that Kelsey kept saying she made the girls take her sweatshirts. Ironically the girls did not have her sweatshirts on, nor were they at the scene.
This makes Kelsey German and Bree Wilson being on the trails, and at the bridge that day even more telling. Those two girls bear a striking resemblance to the murdered girls, Liberty and Abby!
Justice is not being done in this case!!
Her shady body language. 😮 Evil witch
Why is no one talking about Kegan Kline? He was the last person to speak to Libby German. Just my opinion, but it looks like Kegan set her up for whoever killed the girls. The other thing is to me, this case has had a feeling of secrecy since the beginning. Something if off about this whole case.
To be honest I really don't think they have the right guy. I think that's why this dude lost all of his weight. Because he stressed the hell out from being innocent. That's just my opinion.
They have evidence his gun was here that looked like him on the camera ans he admitted it on the phone to his wife so i dk
It's obvious to me from not only her decisions, that judge is one of that area's Nordic/Viking supereme wannabes or at least a sympathizer. She knows exactly what happened and is jumping through hoops to protect her own.
🤣
Please touch grass
@@ItsSVO muh corruption muh 6th ammendment lol
@@Jasmine-Gravesif you’re laughing like a child about your 6th amendment rights, you must be an absolute idiot. Please educate yourself.
37:24
Whoa!
Her response literally gave chills to my spine !!
I am not American so while I have a grasp of your laws it isnt all knowing.
The State and The Government are going too hard on this.
It is almost making RA look like he is getting railroaded into a guilty verdict, without his lawyers really having to do anything. It almost makes him seem not guilty. (?!)
I wouldnt be surprised if your Supreme Court orders a re-trial once this one is done. (I presume RA will be pronounced guilty)
Oh this is scary! Take away someone’s constitutional rights and watch a guilty person go free and vice versa! What about anyone who went before this judge in the past?
The judge in this case is dirty if anyone believes what has happened to Richard Allen is legal and all above board I would certainly question your judgement. This is horrible and this has gone on for way too long. There is no room for this kind of evil doings. Richard Allen has been put thru way too much. Its time to give him back some sense of his dignity.
Like someone else said in the comments, we are not minimizing what happened to Abby and Libby. But if RA is innocent he is as much a victim as they are. The state/judge etc must do the right thing by him and his family too so that his 6 amendment rights are upheld and he can have a fair trail and generally if found guilty reduce the chances of mistrials etc
No he wouldn't be anywhere near a victim as them. He wasn't slaughtered and murdered😡
Exactly and….if he is guilty, his conviction needs to be able to withstand appeal, which could be problematic given the judges shenanigans is definitely not guaranteed
He is GUILTY
@@atlantisnance5944 no, you feel/think he is guilty. Lots of people think or feel he is guilty. But there has been no Trial or adjudication
Well I did say If he is innocent. Probably it doesn’t bother you that in the event that a loved one of yours was accused of such a crime and it turned out they didn’t do it it wouldn’t matter to you.
We are all appalled by what happened to the girls we simply want the proper procedure and the right perp to be held accountable
I don't agree that this alleged killer should be held in prison until he gets his sentence, if he is guilty, because we don't know that to be true, YET. He should be in jail until he receives a sentence. As for the judge, I hope and pray that she is in BIG trouble for doing what she has done. We all want justice, and the law should be followed. Even a judge has to follow the law. This is a disgrace for our justice system.
What's done in the dark will always be brought to light.
Ive heard of a closed door meeting in a small town in ky before where one of the parties was asked not to go back and police officers or lawyers asked for a favor for someone things are not always done right and its ashame
This judge should be brought up on charges, her station is to follow, not interpret how due process works. Her opinions or narcissistic beliefs, have no place in any court of law. Way too many sitting judges are ignoring written law to their own interpretation of what they say the law means.
She’s compromised the case, she obviously doesn’t understand the law or doesn’t care & she’s attempting to cover her tracks. Remove her from the judiciary process.
I’ve had concerns for a long time. Get this man into a jail environment until trial. He’s deteriorating. He hasn’t been found guilty and he’s never been to jail, let alone prison. It seems unconstitutional. The judge seems to be bordering on misconduct. My heart goes out to those two little girls and their families. The amount of time passed, the confusion… It’s unfair to everyone.
The prison has better equiped mental health facilities than jail does
Susan doesn’t think the public should have the Odinism information because she already published her book. But yeah, we’re just mean conspiracy theorists 😒
You guys are mean conspiracy theorists
There is absolutely no way I would feel safe walking around in that community's open space! This case has not been solved. 🤯
Who assigned Judge Gull to the Delphi case?
Another cult of Odin member… probably 🫣
The very same Justices of the same Indiana Supreme Court who are hearing these emergency writs assigned her, that's who, so they all have a dog in this fight concerning their professional, as well as personal, reputations. Judge Frances C. Gull was appointed late last year after the original Carroll County Circuit Court Judge Benjamin A. Diener recused himself due to the "public blood lust" in the case, and good thing too because he definitely wasn't anywhere near qualified for this as a basic attorney/lawyer in a robe, a half-complete Halloween costume, on a small county level, because that's all any of them are, there is no school or qualifications to be a judge, a follower of the law and a finder of fact, not anywhere here in the United States anyhow, just another attorney/lawyer in a robe, no more no less. I'm simply pointing that part of it all out is all, even though you didn't ask.
IDK but they have some explaining to do! 😡
Odin is actually another name for lucifer.
@@truthhurts2879No it’s not, Odin was the god of the vikings
If found guilty, RA will have more than enough to appeal based on the fact that there was inappropriate things going on during his hearing. These shenanigans just might help a guilty man walk free.
Did anyone notice her smirk when she said she was sending him back to the correctional facility?
Why is Susan there? She has no expertise to add to this important aspect of the case
The way this whole case is going down I’m starting to believe that the man they have in jail is innocent! And his attorneys know the same thing and that’s why they’re fighting so hard.
Wow I don’t understand how you all could even think he’s innocent this is sad
Ummm most attorneys try hard to win their cases. Despite their client being guilty or innocent. This guy admitted he killed the girls.
@@atlantisnance5944it’s mind blowing, he admitted to being there and wearing the clothes of the perpetrator saw in the phone video and obviously the girls recorded him because they felt uneasy, he worked a job in the community and was a normal guy and now he’s crazy , some people are so blind to what’s going on and I hope if bye some miracle he gets out of this he ends up living in the same neighborhood with his supporters.He admitted to be fish watching at the bridge where they were taken from and denies seeing the girls , there’s a such thing called circumstancal evidence and there’s a mountain of it , I’ve saw so many people be put on deathrow with much less evidence, I pray the jury gets it right either way the verdict goes , I’m one of those if it looks like a duck , walks like a duck and quacks like a duck I don’t need a dna test to know it’s a duck .oh yeah I forgot to add this guy even admitted over the jail phone to his loved ones but I’m guessing that means nothing to his supporters either.
Facts. I'm telling you that Carroll county is very corrupt. I know so much but won't go there. And I don't think it's the man they have in custody I really think it was someone with power
The corruption in this county makes me wonder that the girls and their familys will ever get justice or if RA an innocent man will even make it another year where these people have put him its horrible
It seems like they put him in prison with other murderers and cult of Odin guards… where maybe they leave his door unlocked one day and people come in and shank him… whoops! Guess there’s no trial now. Or maybe he gets Epsteined when the cameras accidentally stop working one night. The possibilities are endless.
@@93FilmsandMediathat is my fear! Ugh I hope not.
I'm so glad you aren't having podcasters on anymore. These panelists have well founded opinions that actually inform.
The most significnt thing I read is the judge told the defense attorneys to return all discovery materials to the state...those are the same discovery materials that the attorneys used to show the police (Liggett) and prosecutor (Mcleland) committed perjury by submitting fraudulent and fabricated witness statements to the court in probable cause arrest affidavit. It's interesting that the judge Francis C. Gull gave the attorneys a week to return the materials. That deadline was 3 days before the scheduled 10/30 Franks hearing on the allegations of fraud and perjury by the police and prosecutor
How are deputies allowed to wear rouge patches on their uniforms. As a 30 year retired law enforcement officer, we were NEVER allowed to attach anything to our uniform unless it was given to us by the department, which is how it should be. If some deputies were wearing these patches, it had to be approved by management either verbally, written, or management overlooked the patches on purpose. It sounds like this whole county has gone rouge, sadly. How can the public and families have faith that they arrested the correct man, seeing the dysfunction in this system.
Who in particular, put a halt to further investigating ‘The Odin’ theory ?? I strongly feel that this person is connected to the murders in some way or another, and yes, I don’t have a great feeling about some of Delphi’s law enforcement 😬
LE did, and then the Judge when she didn't do anything regarding the Franks motion then ORDERED IT STRUCK from the record.
@@mikusheadphones Just beginning to delve deeper into this mystery,… sorry, but who is LE !?
Law Enforcment@@MitziHart
Officer Tony Liggett
@@bambina772 He does appear suspect after observing him during a press conference, seemed very nervous as Doug Carter spoke about the killer(s),… What other info are you aware of 🤔
All the people thinking Allen is innocent may have forgotten that he supposedly confessed to his wife on a jail call.
I find the MS grossly negligent too imo! They have left a lot of carnage behind!
Look at the difference in how RA is treated and how he is all in chains and prison garb when brought to hearings compared to Kohberger!!!! BK looking mentally fine, dressed in a frkn suit!!!
The US constituition was written for a reason laws are written for a reason to protect our rights to control chaos a judge is suppose to be fair Gull goes against all of this and simply just does whatever she feels like doing
Exactly. Hope the supreme Court removes Gall from the case.
Take it up a notch. She’s doing this on a case with HUGE exposure. I’m not saying it should be treated any differently however, if she’s doing it on display makes all cases prior suspect. This should be frightening to all of us.
Muh constitution muh 6th amendment muh innocent till proven guilty muh corruption
@@karoleegregerson7600 muh corruption
When there’s more that 5 coincidences- it’s no longer a coincidence, it’s a conspiracy. This judge is conspiring
Wheres the evidence wheres the blood on the clothes taken. So far a casing that has no chain of evidence attatched no photo of casing at crime scene nothing .... this is unreal... something isnt right
I'd have to say these lawyers completely had me questioning reasonable doubt on a case I've been following since day one. This judge added to it. They're clearly great to have so many opening their eyes to a possible real life conspiracy theory
I didn’t follow the case closely but know someone who does. I was questioning certain aspects after the arrest and before the defense said anything. Mr Allen was questioned by a conservation officer after tipping in that he was on the trails that day. He provided that tip and interview in 2017. Apparently, nothing known to law enforcement raised their suspicions then … so the fact that it took them 6+ years to arrest HIM smacks of some gross incompetence by law enforcement (if Mr Allen is guilty, which I have no reason to suspect).
Is it possible for it to exist? Of course it exists the correction officers were wearing the badges of the cult. They should be looking into that judge To make sure she's not part of the cult.
This is the best example of corruption from the top down. I don't believe there is a fair and unbiased jury pool, judge, etc. in Delphi. So much of due process has been mutilated. Those girls deserve to have justice.
Rozzi is still his legal counsel!
I don't think RA is the killer and LE has no idea who did it. They are doing there best to put this innocent man in prison for the rest of his life and even given the death penalty.
Keegan Kline (a now convicted pedo) had plans to meet Libby THAT DAY. he was using a catfish account with the name of Anthony shots (showing a younger attractive guy). This has been out in the open evidence for years now. Police raided his house two weeks after the murders. Computer evidence of Libby social media accounts showed all this. Keegan Kline and possibly his father as well are the ONLY CREDIBLE AND PLAUSIBLE SUSPECTS IN THIS CASE
LOOK IT UP!!! you will see this is all true
He is the bridge Guy the girls recorded during their abduction that said down the hill to them and the unspent bullet found at crime scene matched his gun by the striation markings on the ejected bullet I mean what more fighting evidence do you need??? He is the killer jesus you people are dumb!
Richard Allen is charged with Felony Murder not Murder
14:00: Yep and due to all of this, it may end up ruining any justice that Abby and Libby could get! It could end up being a mistrial and with how long it has taken just to get the trial going, (I know it takes time, but why THIS LONG), it almost seems as if there is no evidence on this guy and you know with small towns and especially how the politics work there, where the sheriff's are voted in by the people, It really makes you wonder if they are protecting whoever REALLY did it!! Like maybe he is someone who is a big part of the community/law enforcement/etc. ⁉️😞
Just look at law enforcement and the election that lead up to the arrest...
Thank you for this panel. Excellent coverage!!
My gut says these Odin worshipers could be real. Racial tension is deep in IN
How could anyone read that defense memorandum and think it could be real? Did you read it?? The footnotes? And I live 30 minutes from Delphi. Lol Odin cult. Um no sorry. It’s pure fantasy.
@@legacyXploreagree what BS
A white guy supposedly offs two white girls. What's the racial aspect, exactly?
Lol all involved were white in an ultra small town made up of mostly whites. Literally no racial component. Just a poor excuse for the media to get mad at any white person who goes out of the norm.
No it isn't. I also live very close to Delphi, and no one talks about or sees any of this odin cult😂. What a crock of 💩
Funny. The attorneys really didn’t withdrawal. This judge is corrupt.