New Info Delphi Murders - Who Killed Abby & Libby?
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- Who killed Libby & Abby? FBI warrant reveals new info into the 2017 murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German,14, in #Delphi, Indiana. #MurderSheet podcasters & #CourtTV's Judge Ashely Willcott break down these chilling new details.
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Look at the hat the bridge guy was wearing and look at the hat Ronald Logan was wearing in the news interview I saved pics of it. When I seen that I was thought he was the killer! Do they not have DNA?? Have they requested DNA yes looks like the clothes he would wear! How far are they looking? All these years and he had got away with it.
NoT Ron Logan... y'all all are wrong.
@@snail8926 Why did he ask his friend to lie about his timeline that day though? Dodgy af.
@@kellie5476 Different people have speculated Ron did this because he didn't want the police to know he'd been driving. His license was suspended.
@@Gambler77713 Fair enough. If he had any sense though, he would have realised it was better to come clean regarding driving without a licence than lie about his timeline during a murder investigation.
To think in this day and age they can have a photograph, a voice recording and have no idea who it is is just unfathomable. My heart breaks for those girls and their families.
Without dna these idiots have no idea
This is exactly why security cameras are better quality now. Too many cases dropped becaise of not being able to idebtify perps
Technology advances much faster now then just from a few years ago and still going.
@@ScootsMcPoot True. This has been an ongoing issue.
Police incompetence Is what it is
I think it’s time they released more information. The case has gone cold and meanwhile a killer is roaming free. It really is quite unbelievable that no one has identified bridge guy.
Fear. Blackmail. Coconspirator.
@@Smudgie yes of course they are, they haven’t even said how they were killed or what the murder weapon was. There’s the actual messages between Libby and the ‘Anthony Shots’ account. A lot of people have children that were the same age- the AS element would have had potentially more leads if people had known about this.
@@Smudgie cops hold back information all the time. Don’t forget they still have to prove someone did it. Most times the killer has information that hasn’t been released- for example- what if there were definite plans to meet the girls on the bridge that day at a certain time. The exact way they were killed. The way they were staged. All things the killer would know. It’s sad but unfortunately happens often with high profile cases, that some nutbag wants to admit to the crime when they didn’t even do it. OR nutbags that want to accuse someone of doing it- an ex-partner or something like that. By holding back on information, the cops can protect this from happening… but it’s too late now. They should release more information to help solve this awful crime.
They actually found the guy who killed her! They just need to confirm the information so they can make a proper arrest. Search up Kegan Kline.
He has been arrested for possession of CP, has secretly spoken to the girls the day of their murder, and had made plans through his catfish account to meet up with the girls that day.
@@maipai mmmm I think they don’t have enough on him. They’re even now saying KK’s Dad may be involved 🤷♀️ Either way- that dude’s a POS and deserves to rot. Hopefully they catch whoever is responsible… and soon because it’s been unsolved wayyyy too long.
It’s ridiculous that they haven’t made more progress on this case.
I've often wondered if it was someone either on the police force or someone such as a relative of someone on the police force and that's why no arrest has been made because the killer is being protected 🤷
@@septembersapphire347 daniel pearson
@@GhoststoriesIND agreed!!!
Its not as easy as you think. You cant just charge someone just because you habe a hunch. You need solid evidence.
@@ScootsMcPoot they could at the very least clear up all of the 3747443 inconsistencies they've been caught up in. That would also be progress lol
Never! Ever! Go from point A to point B with a predator no matter what. If the person is going to harm you make them do it right there, you stand a much better chance. Scream and fight give them hell. I pray this monster is found soon and prayers for all the families.
I want this solved more than ever! I follow a few cases but this one has really bothered me. I knew their murder was vicious. Now we know. I want them prosecuted bad!!!
Definitely!! It takes a special kind of evil to do something like this. 😢
Well seems like the killer is dead now
Take the infamous clip of Bridge Guy and put it at 0.25 speed on UA-cam. Then open another UA-cam window and put it side-by-side with Bridge Guy and look this video up: "Search warrant: Delphi killer took souvenir, may have ‘staged’ murder scene" at 1:43 in the video titled in those quotes there's a clip of property owner Ron Logan walking his dog down the street. Put that clip of Ron Logan walking his dog down the street at 0.25 speed next to the clip of Bridge Guy. There are so many similarities between the two men in terms of height, body shape, gait, clothing choices, the way they keep their hands in their pockets...
The way you murder the English language is pretty awful, too. Please learn the proper use of their, there, and they're before posting any more, so that you don't come off sounding like an ignorant moron. Thank you, that is all.
@@user-uy3eq5hg1s they knew who the bridge guy was all along and claimed he wasn't involved in the murders.
When I talk to my 10 year old grandson about stranger abduction. I always tell them to NEVER go with the perpetrator. Even if he has a gun or knife. You have a better chance of survival if you don’t go to the 2nd spot with him. He told me that’s exactly what they teach him in school.
That is both comforting and soul crushing, that children need to be taught how to ensure they stay alive if they run across a bad person.
The thing is, nobody knows how they will react if a situation actually occurs. A weapon can force a lot to happen.
Jodi, that's exactly what my daddy told me and my sister. NEVER let them get you in a car and never agree to go somewhere with them. That's their spot where they are comfortable and that's where they will kill you.
Never go with the little old granny who has a dick puppy and needs help either. Don't engage. 100% don't engage.
Statistically speaking a child is overwhelming more likely to be abducted by someone they are familiar with or know. The fatal flaw with the "stranger danger" premise is that it conditions children not to reach out to strangers in circumstances when it may actually benefit them.
I can’t believe that an established cable network like you can’t tell the difference between four-year-old information and “new information.” You really should be embarrassed for even airing this
This not cable lol?
Agree
Something is really wrong with this case.I think the Police know who the killer is and are covering for him.
I think it is fishy, how these girls died, you need to be transparant in that as police 🤔 i am Dutch, of course i know nothing🤔
I’m so sick of this coverage. Y’all say we are getting closer … yet nothing ever happens . They won’t say how the girls lost their lives, they won’t say anything about the area where they were found . How do they think people will know anything ???
Read about the McStay case in California.
Law-enforcement did not release anything until all of a sudden one day they arrested the murderer.
The most upsetting thing about this case! This horrible person could continue doing this to other innocent young girls! That's terrifying to know! This is a horrific crime that truely needs to be solved quickly! 5 years is way to long! This guy on the bridge sauntering along hands in his pockets! Something's missing! Why didn't they run? Why did they walk down the hill? Was there a reason they went down the hill or was there another person involved?
He forced them down at gun point. He clearly has a gun in the pocket of his jacket.
They would have been better off just running, but most people would cooperate at first to deescalate the situation. In most cases, when someone abducts you, you should NOT cooperate. Your situation will get worse later on. Run, fight them, scream, don't make it easy for them.
You're absolutely right because in this case he's got two murders on his hand he gets another one he's going to be considered a serial killer people that murder like this especially young girls and the other thing is actually assaulted I can't even remember? But as I was saying guys like these they get bolder as they go along especially when they're not caught he's got to be from the area he had to see them get dropped off so it's almost like he was stalking for prey
@@sm0ki they were so young.
@@melissaschreiber7 that video is of an old guy. can't imagine that this was his first "rodeo".
Yet there has been no other killings.
There is more to the video than what has been shown to the public. If it was RL I think law enforcement would have acted on it.
It is shameful this case is not solved. This case was mishandled from the start.
What's more, the town is making money off this.
I think about a Dozen, Dedicated individuals need to make a little trip to Delphi. NO LAW ENFORCEMENT. I'm convinced Online Sleuths WILL SOLVE THIS CASE. We need to split off in groups of three. Somebody needs to go in a group ( 3 - 5 ) and get a " feel " for the town first, before we make our move.
@@please.665 Yes and their is no one holding anyone accountable for it either.
@@theduhscripshunn5476 I think if Fig, Captain Howdy, TCG, TCJ, Prosecutor's Pod,Cop Faxx, Ken Mains and Steve(TrueCrimeWeb) combined forces they could solve it. They all are great at breaking stuff down and making me really think & analyze things. The prosecutor's pod they both are prosecutor's so that helps see things from that point of view. Captain Howdy has been there a couple of times. Steve, Perry, and Ken are all retired law enforcement. TCG's Dad was a police officer. Fig & TCJ are really intuitive and intelligent. If a few of these combined forces I think they could solve this crime. I really think an arrest announcement is on the horizon.
@@aliciastidham2047 the people you named are the very ones that have hindered the case
I don’t believe this murderer is from out of town. He’s still in this community.
I thought that early on. What made me change my mind are people from there saying it’s too small of a town for anyone to not recognize that person in the video..as grainy as it is. Let’s say someone was not coming forward to protect him…it’s still a small community if he lived there still someone without a personal tie to the this monster would have come forward. Everyone there knows everyone and I doubt everyone would protect this…thing. Who knows though 😢
Exactly.makes me think it’s someone important in the area so no one wants to say because they fear something might happen to them
@@lamaravilla9486 Which is sickening! It takes a Village to raise children. We should all be looking out for each other. Not hiding atrocities such as this.
I can tell you he is not from here. Yes I do live here well 5 minutes from Delphi. They do have DNA from the murderer. But I can tell you if it was someone from our area he was found already and nobody will find his body.
@@saralong947 No one will find his body? Lol what? So you’re thinking the murderer is dead? I’m confused
It’s not creepy. I’m out there almost every day with my dog. Before the girls and after. Sometimes there are people. Sometimes there is not. This lady is being dramatic and ignorant.
She's not a country girl. I am in Kentucky and goodness knows I have walked through woods like that many times. Not creepy at all.
I wish you would have been there walking your dog that day. Maybe if someone had seen something this would all be different. Sorry this place is now forever tainted by this and I’m sure it’s different walking your dog there now with everyone taking their cameras and what not.
Any place for two young girls that far away from help is and can be a dangerous place. Weirdos love areas away from people to commit their crimes.
She was referring to how empty it was. Not the actual enviroment. The fact a popular park was so eerily quiet and barren.
That 14 year old girl all but handed the police her murderer! She had presence of mind to video taped him & record him. What in Gods name is police doing????? HOW is this not solved!! That young girl in her last moments of life was so smart and so brave and the police can’t get it together!!!! Shame on them!!!!
After those kids were murdered in Uvalde Texas, (and more recently 3 police watched a man drown while he pleaded for help).
The status of police effectiveness in our country seems sorely lacking. I hope that 30 years from now someone looks up their familial dna and they finally catch their murderer.
IF YOU THINK ITS SO EASY THEN YOU SOLVE IT HONEY
@@anneheimburger3186 YOU CAN BLAME ALL THE LEFTIST PIGGIES
@@phantomcollector1976 she's not being paid to solve it....honey. 🤦 You don't take your car to a mechanic and say you don't know what's wrong with it but it's broke and you suspect what MAY be wrong with it. For them to reply; "if it's so easy to solve, you fix it"! No... because you're paying THEM to solve it.
@@guppywibble3752 IF SHE CANT SOLVE IT WHY DON'T YOU GIVE IT A SHOT GUPP
So sad so heartbreaking. My deepest condolences, what a horrible crime. Unspeakable evil.
They’re trying too hard to make evidence fit that just doesn’t fit. They’re tarnishing this man’s reputation because THEY HAVE NOTHING ELSE.
Well said.
What "doesn't fit"?
how can you tarnish feces?
@@johnjepsen500 and you know Ron?
He’s dead isn’t he?
They still don't assume it could be two people!! Two different sketches, totally different features and ages.
*The Klines!*
Every single time there’s a video saying there’s new info, it’s always the same info.
Why is the media always weeks late making me think it’s new info
If it looks like a Logan, walks like a Logan and talks like a Logan...it's probably Logan.
Hundreds of men are consistent with the physical makeup of the suspect. At first I was very suspicious when I heard about the alibi, but now I think it’s very likely he was afraid of getting in trouble. The girls were missing in the vicinity of his property. Of course he knew the police would come knocking, and he didn’t want to go to jail at his age. If he was the killer, why would he kill two girls on his property? Who murders someone and then leaves them on their front lawn? He would try to hide the bodies, not put them on display. Lastly, wasn’t he actually at the aquarium shop? He just tried to get his cousin to say he DROVE him there.
Good point however most experienced serial killers commit the crime in their own home and even store the evidence and/or bodies there. So because they were found on his property doesn’t mean it’s unlikely he did this. I mean there have been no arrests so whoever did this knew what they were doing and did this before because they technically got away with it and there’s a high probability that they knew they would 🤷🏼♀️
RL did not killed them, too much time on this person who is now dead and can’t defend himself! He doesn’t even looked like BG .. White hair too lean and tall . He just wasn’t supposed to be driving suspended lic Go get the real killer!
@@susisee11 yeah and no way 14 year olds couldn’t get away from an 80 year old who doubtfully could run
Agree! Whomever they went with they knew and trusted. They have said that there was absolutely no struggle and the bodies were staged there on the property and had been searched several times that they were found in.
@@pamelamorris3148 if they trusted him they wouldn't have taken the video.
53 seconds of bridge guy footage..almost a full minute of the killer. Yet nothing came of it. Logan was wearing gloves in the news footage on his property. I always wondered if he had an injury on his hand or cut finger. Don't underestimate an older man's strength. He did physical labor daily most of his life.
But what would Logan’s motive have been?
@@stuartcammack9546 u might nvr find out since he died
Exactly. I think the photo/video looks just like him
@@sarcasticklutz he died???
@@stuartcammack9546 sexual assault. The same motive that every scumbag has for a crime like this.
Why is it taking so long to get justice for Abby, Libby and their loved ones.
Killers don't come right out and admit to murder.
@@snail8926 some actually do, not so often though.
Why do you 🤔
@@joshdarius5995 why do i what?
Funny how Doug Carter says they cannot speculate on what they “think” they can only discuss what they “know”…but they don’t discuss what they know either. After 5 years they can’t release anything? Come on…something isn’t right in that department.
No kidding... The confidence in his statements are like, we know a lot about you and we're getting close, you're most likely in the press room right now hiding in plain sight and we're getting close, it could be tomorrow. Then in the next statement he'll say, I won't speculate about this n that. He's sending 2 different messages. One to the suspect trying to scare him and the second is to the public which is a mix of both confidence and less confidence. To me it'd seem like the suspect would easily pick up on this and feel very confident that they don't have crap.
@@philricke8372 I agree completely. I used to really back them up especially Mr Carter but after hearing the same crap for 5 years with no progress in the case, at least publicly, I’d say they have absolutely nothing and don’t want to disappoint the family so they give them false hope.
A totally agree 💯💯💯
What do you want them to release??
@@adamwilliams9487 There’s a murderer out there roaming free, could be in your area stalking your girls. What do you think they need to release? Instead they say they don’t feel the public is or their community is at risk. I want them to be transparent. Not asking much from the people who are paid to protect us.
I think one of their biggest mistakes is not releasing the full audio. They may have gotten some legitimate tips if they had done so. You can tell this is a backwoods Police Department
This is exactly what I keep saying. There’s Gotta be a reason why they didn’t
You ain’t seen nothing yet. There’s another small town a couple hours from Delphi that has an old murder case involving a young women Denise Pflum that disappeared in 86. They arrested her former boyfriend for manslaughter in 2020 & he died before they could recover what was left of her remains. And that’s all her parents wanted to do was lay her remains to rest before they died. A journalist Gianna Toboni recently did a documentary about Denise Pflum disappearance. It was unbelievable how unprofessional the initial investigation was. I still can’t get over it.
i believe very strongly the reason LE have not released more audio and video is because the killer told the girls he was a cop, LE dont want public to know this.
@@ronniemilsap5945 damn and that would make total sense. But they don’t want us to know because why?
Why would you want to hear an audio of children being murdered?
And there is still a murderer(s) on the loose!
EVERYONE that truly cares about justice for Libby and Abby needs to watch Anna Williams extended interview.
Abby’s mother is a very smart lady. She answered NUMEROUS questions that LE refuses to answer.
Anna Williams was asked about Ron Logan specifically and she should not be dismissed.
What interview was that? Date? Interviewer was? Thanks
@@LadyBatman I tried to post the link.
Search “Jason Hebert Anna Williams interview” on YT.
Ms Williams answered every question asked over three hours.
Some questions she answered outright and others she gave her opinion.
She spoke in detail about her feelings regarding Logan, her brother David Erskin’s “leaked messages”, “THE DNA” and her observations of the audio/video.
Anna, Mike and Becky have heard/seen the content of Libby’s recording.
Anna answers questions about what was said and what wasn’t said.
I learned more about the investigation from Abby’s mother in those three hours than all sources combined over the last five years.
TY I did watch that..all three. Very informative
Can you share a link ? Would love to watch please
@@krazeelety I just googled Ron Logan interview with ann you tube
Gosh I can’t believe it’s been 5 years.
They took the video because they were suspicious because it was reported that they were catfished into believing that an a very attractive younger man. Why would he be talking to the girls from so far back. Was he telling them that the attractive young man who they were expecting was “down the hill”?
Some kind of deception.
Too bad they didn’t hit the send button on it
My gut instinct tells me it’s him. He lived super local to crime scene. Had the same jacket. Appeared very awkward being interviewed. Of course I could be wrong. I hope they manage to make what evidence they have so far work so these two beautiful angels can rest in heaven.
That guy who land that she was found on wasn't him he much older.
I think it’s awfully convenient how now that Ron Logan is dead these documents come out about insinuating he is the killer. Now that he can’t defend himself or be interviewed. I don’t think he had anything to do with it. He doesn’t match either sketchbook by any stretch of the imagination. He looks older than the video. He has a strong twang in his speech not heard in the audio. Also do you think he would be wearing the same clothes the next morning and the FBI wouldn’t have connected them to the murder a week later?! Also did he grow a mustache overnight?
Not buying it until I see evidence.
I Second this!
I agree
Yeah that kinda crossed my mind as well like how convenient cuz now that he's dead and hey why not pin it on a dead guy so it shuts up the public and media and they can move on... Idk if he's guilty or not I'm just saying I found it rather convenient too
Exactly!
He died 2020.
My gut tells me that Logan is not the one who did it. I think it's someone who knows about his record and set him up. How convenient that they were on his property.
I’ve thought that too. That they don’t have ties to the girls or their family but they have ties to Ron.
Someone was after Logan's land to finish the project he started. He needed that land to complete his project. Also bought or wanted to buy the land the GPS was on.
@@susanhunter6037 Project?
This has cover up written all over it that's why there hasn't been a conviction..entitled, rich kid, my dad's a cop type of cover up
RIP beautiful girls 💗💐 Justice WILL come!
Thank you , for keeping us up with details ! Fr,Canada
Why don't they release all their evidence now? They have nothing to lose and a lot to gain.
Doug Carter said early on, "You want to know what we know, and one day you will"...Who is in a position to access information regarding the case? Speculation
if he's shocked over this then what about the murder of 4 little flora girls that hasn't been solved for 6 years now.. he should bring some attention to that case as well!
Which one is that?
@@msaijay1153 u can search for it as flora fire. 15 minutes drive from Delphi. somebody set the house on fire while the girls and their mother were sleeping (after thanksgiving weekend..). they messed up the investigation from day 1. so heartbreaking. carroll county doesn't care about its children!
Hell you don't even hear about them anymore. Which is sick
I hope this is solved soon. I have to say, I know this is a small, rural community and it may just be that I have always been a bit paranoid, but I would not have my kids walking around out there all alone. I would have had them take a walk in town, rather than somewhere they have to be driven to and then picked up later. I wonder if kids are going to that area less since this happened? That whole bridge situation woukd make me, as an adult, afraid to be out there alone. There are just far too many creeps wandering about these days.
I absolutely agree! This person took TWO kids in broad daylight. I’d be scared of everyone and everything out there! You just never know who is crazy enough to do something like this!
They just said in this video that people doesn't go to that bridge anymore because of the murders
Regarding the question why the sketches of the suspect look so different than the guy in the video: maybe because they were worried that Ron Logan would get harassed before they had enough evidence to convict him... or that there was a child predator ring involved and they wanted to make it seem like they were looking for the wrong person(s)? Libby was smart enough to film Bridge Guy and record his voice commanding them "down the hill" so it's very likely he's our suspect.
@@user-uy3eq5hg1s they 100% believe it was the one girl's Father who did it as the crime took place when he was there to pick them up.
@@Jenni-Martikainen people don't walk on that bridge everyday before either that bridge was too dangerous you might see a hiker once in awhile in those woods but I don't think it was a trail that people walked on every day for lunch was in a rural area for God's sake those girls plan to meet somebody there and their parents drop them off there
Ron Logan was cleared. This is old news.
He couldn’t get the blood off his coat and hat. Ron Logan was in ill health and I highly doubt he is the BG.
It's all too convenient if you ask me. I met Ron Logan about 4 yrs ago. My boyfriend and I did tree work at his house. My opinion..... There is NO way this man hurt those 2 girls. I find it beyond disgusting that after his death, he is being laid out like some monster. If I was his family, I'd be beyond irate. I live about 6 miles outside of Delphi. Many of us locals have a very different opinion of what really happened and why to these poor girls. Political.... Coverup..... Corrupt..... Scandal..... The failure to reveal certain information, details that shouldve been public. The first 48 hrs are the most crucial and it was that time, that the local officials had it in their hands.... Only. It's disturbing. I don't think they'll ever solve this case.... Too many people have made sure of that. But, to stop the masses from digging and questioning and exposing.... I truly feel they've found their scapegoat ....if u will, Mr Logan.
@@melissaedwards9535 Thank You! I don’t think it’s someone who is local or they would have killed again by now. Idk but Kegan Kline is a perv but is he a killer? I think not with him either.
Those that are saying these are the same Jacket and hat..they are not the same. I don't think Ron Logan did this. I believe it is a cover-up for /by someone in the town that is well known.. Someone that has the power and the means to pull a cover-up..
@@kathybuchanan6280 same here!
Imagine for a moment that Liberty hadn’t hit “record”. They’d have NOTHING! So frustrating! She’s already solved it, just waiting for the rest of us to catch up.
Not really. It’s been 5 years. And why haven’t they released the whole videos? Logan is their scapegoat. It’s bullshit.
@@unknownsource8481 the only reason more audio is not being released is because the killer told the girls he was a cop,,,LE do not want the public to know that
@@ronniemilsap5945 facts
It’s not new discoveries; it’s old info the police are just barely sharing. Police involved in the JonBenet Ramsey case did the same thing. That case isn’t solved/case closed either. 😢
I actually do believe that someone might lie to cover up a probation violation, especially if that person has no idea that there was a murder near his house on the same day and at the (approximately) same time as the day/time of the probation violation. Honestly, Logan may very well have been considering only his own little situation and merely trying to avoid going back to prison. Also why would he have left these poor girls on his own property? He could have easily taken their bodies elsewhere-especially since we already know that he had been driving and therefore did have access to a vehicle. Being odd and having a history of domestic violence charges do not automatically a murderer make. I find it extremely strange that the police chose to release all of the audio and video in clips over the course of years (instead of releasing the entire video immediately and completely while people’s memories would have been fresh and certainly more accurate than they were years later!)
I agree. I’d also add to that, a guy that has had issues with the law and anger management issues. People that have dealt with cops have a real basis for that fear. It only sounds minor to people that don’t come from a place where they have that fear of the law.
The real question is WHY would anybody other than Ron Logan place bodies on somebody's property ? How many people " have a Murder " at THEIR HOME, in THEIR BACKYARD ? I don't care how you cut it, THAT IS A GUILTY PERSON SLIPPING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@MummyBrown I am a CONVICTED FELON. I first got caught up in 2013 and finally got " Off Paper " in late 2017. I have had over a DOZEN probation violations and I was only ever violated on the FINAL VIOLATION. What I'm saying is in those years, man, I was tweaking hard on Methamphetamines and knew that jail could be in my future. However, never ONCE did I think to call a friend or family member to have lie for me ( If you been through the system enough you'd know it's NOT WORTH THE RISK ) Only if you have SOMETHING SERIOUS TO HIDE would that even cross one's mind. Trust this here Felon. Ron Logan stinks of Filth and Lies. Also, NOT A JUDGE in the land is gonna sentence somebody to 2 years on a violation ( Or was it 4 years ) ? They knew / know the man holds / held vital information. Other than the fact he is / would be 82, I'm not entirely convinced he is " deceased "
@@theduhscripshunn5476 That's a fair assessment. It also appears that your cooler head prevailed. He wasn't exactly known as a level headed dude so that may tell us more than we need to know about the guy. I.E. that kind of aggression usually effs up bad enough to get caught commiting high level crimes.
You have to admit that some people are straight up stupid. Look at all of the fools that are young and have no/ minor infractions that do things like this. An older guy at least understandably can worry about dying in jail.
I'm def not sticking up for the guy thinking that he didn't do it, but I also think that it's possible that the guy was just old and hyper-terrified of getting sent to jail. I'm not even sure if this guy has enough priors to legitimately justify that fear.
I'm more apt to think that the young guy that's currently in custody for kiddy prOn and def had contact with Libby looks a lot more guilty than RL. Nothing of this nature is a coincidence. I think he catfished her and def had a plan in place. It sounds like the perp would be covered in blood after all of this otherwise. Who better to have that plan but a dude catfishing her?
Learn how to spell
The cops have screwed up this case from day one. I wonder if they are protecting one of their own
Right and that’s the reason why no one is speaking up about seeing someone. Everyone is scared to speak in fear that they will be in trouble or hurt by speaking
This is horrible to say the least. These young girls were the same age as my daughter and her best friend when they were killed. I know for me personally, there is no way that I would have let my daughter and her friend walk in such a secluded, wooded area by themselves. I know we want to give teenagers freedom, I agree, but not to the point of endangering their lives. This World is full of cruel and evil people that you can't even leave kids outside in the front yard by themselves, more or less on a trail where no one is around. Innocent lives taken so terribly!
Will we ever see the full video??
🙏 Thank you for for including Podcaster's as out media outlets. I respect you more for that
we also know that at 8am the shots account contacted Libby's phone on the day of the murders
As an overseas viewer who has watched this sad case overtime, one confusing aspect regarding the video - why only release a few seconds if it last 58 seconds? Additionally, surely it is time for a serious cold case squad review by very experienced detectives, possibly from an outside agency?
Same here.
It's long past time for fresh eyes and a new approach.
From my understanding is because after that is their brutal SA and murders.
LE do not want public to know that the killer told the girls he was a cop
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Interesting...
It’s either a cop who did it or someone who is friends with the cops.
Exactly what I think
Doesn't have to be a cop in a small town either have money or be well known.
@@chris47374 still thinks it’s a cop or a friend of a cop.
Lol 🤣 of course DURRRRRRRR "NOT"
@@snail8926 duuurrrrr yup
I do not take much stock in anyone who uses "basically".
Vinny, they just arrested a guy! Thank God!
This guy was looked at immediately and they cleared him. I don’t understand how he’s a suspect again, and now he’s dead?! There’s even footage of the man saying “down the hill”, I remember a reporter asked him to say it. This was the same interview where he mentioned the aquarium alibi. It was an interview with WISHTV. He sounded like he was intentionally trying to make his voice, his pitch, sound differently. I think he sounds just like this guy.
Yeah, no doubt !!! That, " Down The HEEEEEL " was CRAZY. If it were me, I would have said, " Now, do it ONCE MORE, without changing your vocal tone "
Exactly and you don't hear any of them saying this on these "crime shows". The man in the video came forward immediately and was cleared and here all these year's later the same online sleuths are pointing to this man - whom cops know isn't the killer. They believe it was the one girl's Father who was there to pick them up and killed the two girl's.
You don't have the full video he wasn't telling them to go down the hill.. maybe they asked if there was a better way to cross the tracks cuz that bridge looked dangerous to me and it doesn't look like something somebody would take a hike on like they're saying it would have been four of people I doubt it very much
@@pamelamorris3148 my question is why don't you hear the parents speaking out more more
@@jodievukmir3187 he's definitely telling them to go down the hill. He says guys first even if there is missing audio he is directing them
I would never walk across that bridge, either. I am afraid of heights and falling and simply looking at it makes my stomach flip flop. 😩
Excellent. Thank you for the coverage.
I hate that this still hasn’t been solved, these sweet girls deserve justice! I also can’t stand that they keep pointing the finger at someone that died… I don’t think RL did this. If he did, why didn’t they investigate him more when he was alive? I feel like the LEO, just doesn’t know who did it and just trying to find anyone they can that merely fits the description to blame.. IMO…. I hope that it wasn’t RL and it’s someone that is still alive and will rot in jail for what they did. They also should release more info to the public, it could help solve the crime. Maybe we don’t have enough information.
Praying this to be solved soon! Please God! 🙏🏼
Also, to anyone that knows or thinks they know who did this, please report them! Or to the murderer, DO the right think and turn yourself in! 👈
Makes me believe even more that LE IS covering up for someone.
Based on this Search Warrant document, I can’t see how RL isn’t the prime suspect. In addition to it happening on his property, 1800 feet from his back door, the near-fact that his voice and appearance are consistent with Bridge Guy, his history of DV, and especially his lying for an alibi during the murders, this guy RL has to be the PS. Unless theres another PS we dont know about, he would be my focus
@@thekinginthenorth3650 he lied about his alibi because he knew he had a suspended license and was driving and didnt want to go to jail, he was right he got prison time. Makes no sense to murder 2 girls and leave them on ones property!
@@aquarianlight1880 my thoughts exactly!
@@thekinginthenorth3650 there's absolutely nothing matching RL and the bridge guy. The voice is totally different as is the hat and coat he's wearing. No way would an 80 year old man be able to subdue and kill two girls then stage the bodies in an area already searched by her family then they appear.
thanks for the video
When he says guys down the hill sounds like a cop
It’s not Logan. It’s very clearly related to the Anthony shots profile. That’s who kills them
I think videos like this should be taken down. Especially now that a suspect has been arrested.
I used to go walking and bike riding in forest preserves but not any more. There were a few incidents in the news so I stopped going.
The video is actually 43 seconds long according to the FBI
I know men in their 70s who've lived their entire lives on farms etc and can move just like any 30/40 year old!
Yes a person in their 80s can hike across the bridge. If they are fit and comfortable with hiking.
Court TV is at least a week late on this story. Give me a break! Ron Logan, who died a few years ago, is NOT bridge guy, IMO. More likely that Tony Kline is Bridge Guy.
Hey Vinnie, This FBI document was from 5 years ago, and 5 years ago Ron Logan was a suspect, but it is unlikely he committed these murders, and until Murder Sheets released this, nobody was talking about him. Ron Logan wanted an alibi because he has had several DUI’s and lost his license. His property and house were searched after the murders, and nothing was found. He was also incarcerated for driving on a suspended license, immediately after. If they truly believed it was Ron Logan….they would have arrested him then. He died earlier this year from a COVID related illness. A month or so ago, The Murder Sheet “stumbled upon” another document and were positive it was Kline. I’ve followed this case from day 1, and would love for it to be solved. In my opinion, The Murder Sheet should stop releasing information that has not been released to the public. It wasn’t released for a reason. By releasing this information, it could easily mess things up IF anyone is EVER arrested. 🙂
Murder sheet should be thanked for keeping this investigation alive. If it weren't for them.The news channels and people would not be talking about it right now.
@@JA-rs3os I live about an hour and a half from there, and still hear about it. My point is, like Vinnie said, if they do arrest someone, with the warrant on RL released, that creates reasonable doubt. The police have 1 shot at this. I think they are dotting every I.
You can go back to the old comments on the earliest youtube videos about Delphi and find me SCREAMING that it was Ron Logan. It's obvious he did it. It always has been. I figured it out at least 3 years ago.
Murder Sheet is doing the releases to promote their channel, as you say. They jumped into covering the case when their podcast wasn’t getting listeners. Suddenly they jumped on the Delphi murder bandwagon. More people looking to profit from someone else’s pain.
@@andrethegiant2877 it was not Ron Logan 🙄
These girls did everything but hand the murderer to LE. There’s no logical reason for this case to still be unsolved. Those girls deserve better!
This is one of the most frustrating cases that I know of. BG will strike again. I bet this crime wasn’t his first rodeo.
I was a student at a local University YEARS ago. Delphi was my student teaching position. Teachers were PAiD to supervise college students and give relevant feedback. My supervising teacher was at the elementary school and LEFT ME ALONE, Unsupervised from day one. Her husband was a teacher down the hall , and she used me to help him prepare for an annual “ program”. I have ALWAYS questioned the ethics of that small, creepy town. Not everyone, but def self proclaimed “ Christian’s”.
I heard Libby was missing her sweatshirt. That’s a similar length word.
Underwear?
Don't they have DNA evidence? In which case its someone whos not in the system, and who's DNA the authorities do not have. X
Exactly! How did someone not see something.. at any point?
For some reason today the first thing on my UA-cam suggested list was the helicopter search footage from February 14th in Delphi as well as the police correspondence which I did watch a bit of. It was shocking to know the those girls' bodies were just right there and how didn't we see anything?! After watching that footage I just can't understand!
Winter day. Few people. Bodies partially covered with leaves and limbs.
The killer picked a time that Noone else was walking in or out of the area. Unfortunately for the girls no one besides the killer came along while the girls were taking pictures on the bridge.
They can't release all the information in case anyone ever confesses to this horrible crime. They have to retain details only the killer knows, which means they believe the killer is still alive and must know who it is.
My dad was an iron worker for decades. He walked just like that.
Wouldn’t autopsies tell how they were killed?!? DNA?!? My damn 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
The cops know how they died. But won't release it.
The police detectives shouldn’t be able to hoard information after failing to solve a MURDER!
I also heard that Mr Logan mostly wore a fanny pack because he carried a gun. I wonder if that's a fanny pack on him in the video.
I remember that LE, in the first press conference, said that the killer could possibly be in "this room".
Doug Carter has been bluffing for five years. I think he’s a good man, but he won’t be nominated for an Oscar.
Maybe it's one of their own? How could someone not recognize this man? There is even a recording of his voice. Someone has to know something.
AGREED! They are covering for him!
Agree
Learn your kids this sentence: “Mister, your picture has already been uploaded to the cloud. Leave me alone!”
*teach
FYI the killer wasn't the 77 yr old man Ron Logan. Smh ..this is old news from the beginning of the investigation. The guy on the bridge 🌉 is youngish looking with reddish brown thick hair. So it wasn't the old guy Ron. 😒
@@MakeItTooBigToRig lol study the case you'll see it wasn't him. Sheesh..the killer has reddish brown hair and 5'6 to 5'8 and 18 to 40 yrs old. Ron was grey headed over 6ft tall and 77 ..smh lol
@@MakeItTooBigToRig there isn't any hat at all. It's a brown hoodie and the killers thickish reddish brown hair..look at the last STILL frame 🖼️ from the ISP/ FBI shots..and his hood is off in the last frame .. I swear..👍
I learned about this terrible case a while ago and I have tried to keep up with everything. I didn't know about the warrant. Thanks for the update. It's very interesting. I am still surprised that they haven't found this guy
Thanks
This case was so different, almost no information released. I understand that details are withheld in an investigation that only the guilty party would know, but in 5 years this is the most the public has been told.
RIP Young Ladies.
Omg that looks like the same windbreaker
Vinny, one of the true crime channels that I follow called Monsters Under the Bed has an excellent theory about the second sketch and why it was released so much later than the first. Since DNA was collected from the crime scene he believes that the sketch was created using an analysis of those results. If you research the process the DNA experts use and compare the sketch to sketches created through DNA characteristics, you will find that nearly all are prepared as though the suspect is approximately 25 years old. Age cannot be determined by DNA so, unless they are given specific parameters, such as the person is believed to be a child, then the default is a young adult. I believe this is why the detective said that if you put the two sketches together you have your killer (paraphrasing). Also, since DNA results can take months, this would explain the reason for the long delay. This theory certainly makes sense to me.
That is not correct. The SECOND sketch was created from the account of an eyewitness within a day of the girls' bodies being found. Not enough time to have a DNA profile available. The FIRST sketch that was released was created from eyewitness account and the video, according to the FBI artist.
This will never be solved statistically.
The man in the video looks about
late 40s to 50s don't think he has a lump just carefully walking on the bridge
The miscreant bastard(s) who did this horrible crime will likely never pay. It deeply saddens me but law enforcement screwed this one up. After 5 years the statistics aren't in favor of a successful conclusion. I can't even imagine how those families feel. Its disgusting.
I do believe it will be solved. Some cases unfortunately take a very long time.
I'm not at all convinced R.L is guilty.
I suppose anything is possible here, but I think RL looks much older than the guy in the video. I think he only vaguely sounds like him as well. Now that young guy that was catfishing Libby, that’s another story. That guy actually had contact with Libby. That’s not a coincidence.
It wasn't Ron L. 😒
Exactly! The fact that he didn't want to be caught driving while he was on probation doesn't make him guilty of murder. That seems to be what I'm seeing many people saying
He has a strong southern accent the voice in the clip didn’t appear to have that “twang” to it but it was only a short clip to be fair but I’m not convinced fully either. But it is possible.
@@TheVioletBunny I agree. The only thing that made me thing "maybe" was that RL's old girlfriends said that is def his voice. They also said that's DEF him in the video. I'm not convinced either.
I still can't shake that Libby was indeed chatting with their other suspect in this case. I'd even bet that she was going to meet who she thought she was chatting with, and she brought her best pal along for safety. Neither bet on the possibility things could end up like this. Almost nothing is a coincidence in a crime. This reeks of something that was planned otherwise there would be evidence all over the place. Even then, no one is this good to be able to get away with a thing like this with today's forensics.
It is strange that the bridge guy keeps his head lowered while talking to the girls, unless he knows that they are recording him.
He is doing that towards them, just my guess he has seen these girls before or the girls know of him.
It’s NOT Ronald Logan. He may have known something but he isn’t responsible
That superintendent keeps talking the talk…. But so far, FIVE YEARS LATER, still nothing. Five years?? Come on. Stop talking about it, and DO SOMETHING WITH IT! The families need peace.
During the week when they went hiking I’m sure there weren’t many people. I hike often and have learned not to do that during the week alone no matter where the trail. Places are creepy and not a place I would drop my teenage girls off alone.
Sad that we have all these Beautiful national parks and we can’t hike in them as women alone because of creeps like this
@@jipfluffy2143 ccw in your state ?
Was the FBI ever involved in this case? Maybe Indiana State Police should ask for help.
Jesus more people have gone to jail with less evidence SMH
This case has been cloaked in secrecy since the beginning. This approach has been ineffective. Time to release much more information.
Why the double negative? That Logan’s voice was ‘not inconsistent’ with the recorded voice? There is a reason it was said that way. I think LE is trying to pin this on a dead guy because they can’t/ don’t want to solve it.
Because it clearly doesn't sound like his voice. FBI Agent just thru that in ass an additional probable cause for obtaining a judge's signature on the warrant.
@@jefferygordon243 If you notice it was said his voice was NOT inconsistent. Meaning, they said it DOES resemble his voice.
Great Show!
I live in northern Indiana. It shook our state!!
Also starting to think no DNA was left behind as that could be clearing or not clearing some of these suspects.