00:00 The Case Against Richard Allen 04:46 February 13, 2017 07:28 February 14, 2017 09:22 February 15, 2017 12:04 April 22, 2019 13:49 November 18, 2020 15:36 December 6, 2021 16:49 October 31, 2022 32:07 October 2023 #CourtTV Catch up on the #DelphiMurders here: www.courttv.com/tag/delphi-murders/?
Has the judge who recused himself and stepped down from the case, been investigated 🤷♀️ could he have something to do with this, and it’s the reason he couldn’t sit on the case (guilt) Has anyone even thought about that 🤷♀️I think it needs to be investigated further by outside authorities and investigators
The ADL??? Seriously, Court TV?!? The ADL, like the SPLC, considers anyone who doesn't have their specific point of view as "extremists". They consider patriotic Americans as "extremists". If you think the Constitution is a great document, the ADL considers you as an "extremist". Believe in free speech (which is obviously the 1st Amendment)? 2nd Amendment supporter? Yep, the ADL considers you an "eXtReMiSt". Believe in biology which proves there are only 2 genders? "eXtReMiSt". Don't think men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? You guessed it, "eXtReMiSt". It goes on and on with the ADL and SPLC. It's absolutely unbelievable that Court TV would use them as a "credible" source. They are insanely left wing to the point of totalitarian. It actually causes me to not take Court TV seriously.
The ADL??? Seriously, Court TV?!? The ADL, like the SPLC, considers anyone who doesn't have their specific point of view as "extremists". They consider patriotic Americans as "extremists". If you think the Constitution is a great document, the ADL considers you as an "extremist". Believe in free speech (which is obviously the 1st Amendment)? 2nd Amendment supporter? Yep, the ADL considers you an "eXtReMiSt". Believe in biology which proves there are only 2 genders? "eXtReMiSt". Don't think men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? You guessed it, "eXtReMiSt". It goes on and on with the ADL and SPLC. It's absolutely unbelievable that Court TV would use them as a "credible" source. They are insanely left wing to the point of totalitarian. It actually causes me to not take Court TV seriously.
One of the saddest things is seeing how much older their friend is now. Both girls would be in their twenties now, had their lives not been cut so short.
Long ago, a 9 year-old girl went missing in our hometown. Her body was found not far from our house. It changed our lives. To me and my 4 younger sisters, nothing felt safe after that. Decades passed before DNA solved the case. It turned out that her killer was actually someone who'd never been on police radar. Two years after the killing, he had committed suicide because, it was believed, that he felt law enforcement was getting close to arresting him. By then, her parents had already passed away, but her brother was still alive to get the news. Now, I hope Abby and Libby's families won't have to wait that long for justice. Rest in peace, Debbie Randall. Extra angels of comfort to those who loved you. ✨️💙
I just wanted to acknowledge what beautiful emotions and care you chose to show in this message. I'm sorry you lost your childhood. I'm so very sorry a 9 year old lost her life. What I take from this, is that no matter what rocks and stones come our way, it does not quell the kindness and beautiful nature you've illustrated today. @mortalclown3812 I wish you peace, compartments for troubles and love.
Thanks you for sharing your sentiments. You expressed yourself well. I’m sure she would be very pleased with your comments and memorializing of her passing. God Bless.
How dear you are to remember her and share her name. I’m so sorry her life was stolen as well as you and your sisters lost too taken by such evil im sorry
I gotta hand it to Libby she knew something was going to happen so she did everything that she could to ensure that this man would not get away with it she was a strong and brave girl.
This can be a cautionary tale for other young girls. There is literally no reason for two young girls to go meet a man in the woods!! What was going to happen?? Were they trying to have a little bit of fun?? Obviously things did not go as planned.
Richard Allen would undoubtedly get away with this, were it not for the video! The two things don’t need to be mutually exclusive: Rick Allen can be guilty AND the keystone cops flubbed the investigation to begin with.
@@Cecil-hotel two little girls trying to go have fun. Two little girls who should have been at home reading a book. Two little girls who had no business meeting a random man of the woods. Tf.
Seeing Abby & Libby’s friend grown up, driving, a literal adult now, is so bittersweet. I’m saddened she was made to complete her youth w/o her best friends😢. She’s well-spoken & articulate. I pray she has a good life. Justice for Abby & Libby.❤❤
@mom2babygkaterad946. I agree and felt/ thought the same. I also hold high respect for her, the friend, Cynth’s parents for protecting her privacy during the horrible period after the murders. I am glad that they protected her to the extent that I, and I suspect many others, were not familiar with her name.
She's also a singer songwriter working on her first album, google her name Cynth Rossi and you can find some of the tracks she's released already. She's a wonderful young woman who is very talented.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
I thought the same thing. Sometimes we lose the notion of how much time this has passed. Now looking at this girl, is like they would be this grown up now. Poor girls
Abby and Libby hit me hard, maybe Abby’s photo with the hat. When I was in fourth grade a man tried to get me in his car when I was walking home from school. My friend who went towards her home on the next block heard me screaming and came back. Just enough to get him to flee in his car. To me she saved my life. Cynth Rossi I much appreciated how beautifully you spoke about both Abby and Libby. Your story puts into perspective the impact on friends, classmates, and the community. I hope you find peace and happiness. I watched you knowing they should be your age. Hugs to you.
You made me cry, I was going to comment but you said it all. I pray for everyone involved. This should not have happened!! No one seems to be safe anymore!! 🩷🙏🏽🩷
When I was 5 or 6, around 1987, a man showed up at my school trying to check me out. Had all of my info and said he was there to get me. Thank, God the secretary In the office knew me personally and just had a bad feeling. She went to go get my file because they weren't on computers back then, and when she got back, the man had left. She wasn't going to let him take me from school. To this day, it still blows my mind that a stranger was able to get all of my info and was brave enough to try and check me out of school as if he were a family member.
@@lynetteeades9010people will always have them, the older generations have many baseless conspiracies that are still strongly believed today, but a majority of these conspiracies are based off actual information. At least the younger generation can use critical thinking to decide what is and what isn’t a genuine conspiracy or just bs. So, at least feel some pride for the youth being able to tell the difference between fact and fiction.
Am I the only one that wants to hear Richard Allen talk? They should be able tell if that’s his voice or not on the phone video the girl took? Am I the only one lol
Nope, you definitely aren't the only only one! KA either deleted most all of & or kept silent on her fb of him! IMO, that's Sus, unless LE said hey you might want to remove him from your fb😏 I've heard 1 very small clip of his voice in a vid that KA made & her vid of him in their car, of her sneaking up on him, but not his voice in that one😏
There was video of him talking on his wife's fb. It didn't sound exactly the same but you really can't tell from the crime audio since it would have been muffled from being put in a pocket as well as a persons voice will change in a highly excited/stressed state.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
Yeah really. And law enforcement simply refuse to admit they were wrong and screwed up big time and tried to hide this fact by pretending like it's such a "complex" case and the public needed protected from the probable cause affidavit. When in reality they didnt want everyone knowing that he came to them before they released his picture, just barely, and simply brushed him off. Had he waited til that next night to tell law enforcement he was there they would have lost this case forever by releasing that picture. He sure as hell wouldn't have come forward then. Like what the hell is complex about it? You have him on camera driving to the spot he parked his car. He walked to the bridge and kidnapped 2 kids took them down to a hidden area and killed them. They even have audio of the abduction. Then he walks out of there muddy and bloody and is seen by a witness doing so. I'm sorry but this is the least complex case I've ever heard of. How many abduction do they ever have audio of? And video of the guy approaching? This is all just the tip of the iceberg in their inexcusable incompetence. That's not even mentioning the mountain of reasonable doubt that they spent 5 and a half years to hand on a silver platter to defense. You got them stating in an affidavit they believe the property owner did it. You have transcripts of them interrogating a guy that they released a video for asking for information about and said to use the Abby and libby tipline, saying that he had planned to meet the girls there that day. You have all this and no one is even talking about it cause the court and attorneys mistook all the disfunction as tradition and are hell bent on keeping it going, making a mockery of the system as a whole. He should win an appeal just for his pretrial treatment. But I'm don't think his attorneys are very bright. They concocted some half baked conspiracy about human sacrifices, which if it was a group you would have seen two or more guys in the video. No way in hell a group is down there chilling and sends one guy to kidnap 2 15 year-olds. They are blowing a great opportunity to do what the state does to defendants and use their own words against them. I'd be emphasizing the fbi saying they believe Logan did it. As well as him trying to lie and make up an alibi which in their words is what a guilty person does. And the best part for them is the guy is dead and can't come in and sway the jury. Then you have kline, someone in prison for child porn and all their accusations to him. They are blowing a golden opportunity. They have 2 super impeccable alternate suspects who law enforcement said themselves did it and they are going with ghost and goblins. It's truly a who's who for who's most incompetent at their job and I'd put this group up against any group anywhere in the world. Sorry I'm from that state and ashamed.
I never knew that Allen is only 5'4". That is a very, very short man, and it would be the first thing that witnesses would notice. Yet none of the witnesses mentioned that they saw a very short man. That's extraordinary.
And LE treats RA as if he’s King Kong in his court appearances; chains, a leash, all the accessories that imply he’s a monster. He is a very small man.
Allen being so short might be the biggest blessing of his life. The defence have mentioned about getting the infamous 'bridge guy' footage analysed and it coming back strongly in their favor.
3 out of the 4 witness’ were kids and the one adult was driving down the road when they saw the “muddy and bloody” guy. From a kids perspective they might not have really noticed he was short idk. It’s definitely strange. Moreover I’m really confused how the bridge guy video hasn’t been analyzed to determine his height. If bridge guy is 5’4 - 5’6 would match RA, if not, then I think that would be a big piece of evidence for the defense.
I have read the documents of this case and this judge is something "special" that's for sure. You know, the judge that signed the search warrant for Richard's house just resigned?
@@Indy69vette what does that matter? They hacked Kegan kline devices THEN got a search warrant knowing what they were going to find. His attorney must really be worthless cause it's clear as day he has a legitimate case of illegal search and seizure. I know there's always work arounds to the constitution but they aren't even trying anymore. They just blatantly violate your rights and your only hope is that your lawyer will care enough to file an appeal to an appellate court and they will care enough to look at the case and care enough about the actual person's rights to overturn something. Don't get me wrong I'm not defending klines actions only his rights which were clearly violated. If they make that the norm, to be able to hack into anyone's devices cause they are on someone's friends list who were apart of an entirely separate case and look for any illegal activity and if found get a warrant for it then start an entirely different criminal case that quite frankly is a huge violation of privacy and rights. How many of these scumbags in law enforcement hack their wife's or girlfriends phones or whoever they want to spy on for personal reasons? I just hate that they can do that without a warrant legalor otherwise. We really do need a para police force who's only job and authority is arresting police who violate people's rights or conduct other illegal activities. Having them investigate themselves is a joke.
I live about 1 1/2 hour away in Indiana. I constantly get news updates from my local news station about this case. I never really knew what this case was about until I’ve watched this. Those poor, young girls. Their last moments must have been so terrifying. I will forever be thinking about them from now on💔
The small town wasn't ready for something this big. The tip line was piling up and the leads were overwhelming a small amount of investigators. Just think of all the people they ruled out. Richard Allen tells a conservation officer about his whereabouts about the time of the murders. This information got misplaced or didn't draw any red flags with the conservation officer. This mistake is why this has taken so long!
They had to pin the tail on the donkey, election of new sheriff was in two weeks. They elected the wrong sheriff ( the corrupt one) who is happy to help with the cover up! LE did not do a proper investigation, they hid, lost, erased, lied about evidence from the very start of this case. FACTS!!!
@@RyanPeoples-j8rbut the only reason it got that big is because they made it that big. Had they done just the bare minimum of due diligence the case would have been solved before the first tip even comes in. They are so unbelievably lucky Allen went to them before they released the photo of him the very next day after the bodies were found or this case would never have been solved. How you don't clear him before running to the media is beyond any rational comprehension. He's telling them he was on the bridge at the time of the abduction because he thinks it's OK to tell them that because he didnt realize libby recorded him. So as far as he knew they had no clue where the abduction had taken place. I mean come tf on. When he came to them there was no 20,000 tips and he was somewhere in the middle. There were next to no tips and a very short list of the people who came to them claiming to have been there that day. I truly truly do belive they were more worried about getting in front of cameras than solving the case. They knew it was going to be a national story and Carter the clown and his circus came and crapped on everything. I remember Carter doing an interview about his first press conference on the case and he said there was discussion on who should do it. It came down to him or carrol county sheriff Tobe Leznby. It was decided that he was a better speaker so the decision was made for him to do the presser. This was what they were discussing when Allen was trying to tell on himself. That case should have never left delphi. They weren't overwhelmed by tips then. They were overwhelmed with their own vanity knowing that they were about to be known all over the country. I'm just picturing Allen having just went and told law enforcement he was on the bridge that day and basically by the time he gets home his picture is plastered all over everywhere. He had to have thought they were playing mind games with him. Especially when Libbys aunt comes in and has him print her memorial pictures. He had to start thinking he was living in an alternative reality or dreaming. Nope just the most incompetent investigation perhaps in the history of man afforded him 5 and a half years of freedom.
I just find it very weird that Allen lived in this town for years. It was a tiny town and Allen was well known there. Worked at the pharmacy hung out at the pub and pool hall. Everyone saw the bridge guy video, heard his voice, saw the drawings, they were hanging in literally every single store, on the news, on the cover of newspapers añd NOT ONE single person said "hey thats Richard Allen" ? Cmon somebody would know if that was Allen from the video, voice recording and sketches
Sketches didn't look like him. Video was worthless in making positive id. Killers voice was muffled and they were in an excited state which can change a person's voice. Also the public wasn't aware Allen came forward and said he was on the bridge at the time of the abduction. That would be law enforcement. So I don't blame the town whatsoever I blame law enforcement 100%. They missed ruining the case by mere hours by running to the media with the picture. They shouldn't have went to the media until they thoroughly investigated everyone they knew was at the trail. How the hell Allen wasn't arrested shortly after he came forward is mind boggling. He obviously didn't know they had the video of him so they could have easily painted him in a corner. Yet Carter and his circus came to town and setup his tents, started putting on his clown makeup and made a absolute mockery of this case. Their friend in this very video said she wouldn't have thought it would have been him. It's just a travesty how inept and incompetent law enforcement was. They were way more concerned about getting in front of as many cameras as they could to tell everyone they can't tell anyone anything. Their carelessness allowed Allen to develop film for Libby memorial service. Unbelievable
this! like i know someone out there was like that looks like my neighbor, or my husband Richard but then they just said Nah, hes a nice guy in their head and forgot all about it.
I think mabe the fact he's been so quiet may say alot. I've learned that if your really incarcerated wrongfully...your not happy about it, I'd I for one have never been a good little inmate so, idk. It's a tough case. I'm from Indiana myself and I can assure you the police work on the "good old boys" boys attitude. I can see them doing something shifty to close the case
I feel the police, the prosecutor and Judge Gull mishandled this. These two children deserve better. This trial should be televised for the sake of transparency.
Prosecutors tend to mishandle things. Mainly because they know that there is no real oversight and that any monumental mistakes (or intentional misconduct) will not bring any consequences. They have far too much unchecked power
@@Billboswagginsjr Ya. A lot of info has come out which proves how badly they botched this, and they want to try to keep as much hidden as possible. Still wild to me how they're hinging so much on the unspent round, when the science behind it is not precise enough to rely on. And how it wasn't found until after they had released the crime scene and re-secured it over a day later.
@@melissacampbell9214 I still believe there was a huge cover up. Don't know what was going on but I know they were all up to something. It's very peculiar the judge hit everyone and then the talk of the Prison guards and cult.I mean how much stuff is there in this story And how many people were involved?Supposing the guy that made them go down.The hill had a group waiting at the bottom of the hill for them.I do not know after all this time.I still don't know what to think
My law professor in college asked the class "Is it better to have a justice system that results in more guilty people roaming the streets or more innocent people sitting in jail?" . If they have the wrong guy, I feel for him and his family. Hopefully there will be more clarity once the trial starts.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
⛔️⛔️⛔️⛔️⛔️⛔️ Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
not only may an innocent sit in jail, but imagine the treatment someone accused of this kind of crime gets! the possibility of innocence is not considered by other inmates, they only look at the charges... even now before any conviction they consider him guilty, and also the guards! if he is convicted he will have to spend that time in solitary or constantly be under fear of being attacked. even in protective custody he will be in danger, the only people he can socialize with are the worst of the worst offenders in there. every time he eats a meal he will wonder what is in it... if he gets convicted and is innocent, it will be a tragedy for him! i hope the jury gets it right!
🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫 Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
The “family” knows that the State’s timeline is wrong. Yet they remain silently while an innocent man sits in prison. You heard it here, so don’t act surprised when the truth comes out and the actual murderers are arrested.
The time-lines match his orginal statement back in 2017. He only tried to change it after he was caught. The orginal matches most of the witnesses also. Not to mention he was literally wearing the same clothes b.g. was wearing that day. He admitted that himself.
@ The States timeline is impossible. Anyone who examines it in detail will conclude the same. According to the State, RA and the girls had not even crossed the creek yet at 2:25 according to the States own digital forensics expert. Since the girls would’ve had to cross the creek alive. Consider the phone was under Abby and didn’t move after 2:32. But there was other evidence collected that was not used at this mock trial ….and it is very damning, so I will no longer entertain the fairytale story that the Corrupt State of Indiana used to falsely convict Richard Allen.
I lost my best friend when we were 15 years old. A drunk driver ran her over and murdered her. Very few days go by when I don’t think of her. I’m 50 years old at the end of this month. Sonia West. She was funny, and shy, and she was kind. 🙏🏽🌹
UA-cam won't allow me to give my opinion of the police and especially the prosecutor in this case. It's not at all favorable. I have never for a moment believed that Mr. Allen is guilty. We'll see if the trial proves me wrong.
Imo something highly corrupt going on. Flora fire house owner has connections to Libby’s grandma few days before fire. Multiple people in fire dept and prosecutors stepping down from job after years of service etc. imo there’s a lot of shady stuff going on waiting for someone to piece it together
Held in solitary confinement for 13 months. No contact with his families for seven months. Suffering from Psychosis…drugged to the rafters with Haliperidal. The man doesn’t seem to know what he’s saying half the time in those phone calls.
Do you know why that was done? It’s was for RAs safety and protection to ensure he’s alive to stand trial and due to horrific acts he’s accused of, he has to be in pc so the inmates don’t kill him. Inmates don’t take kindly to those who hurt children. Also, such a high profile case.
Watching from Australia. I even got the missing news update over here and since then have been heartbroken and following this. My prayers and love to the families❤
I’m from England. Not knowing must be agonising for their families & loved-ones. I hope that they know that so many people are thinking of them & keep their girls in our hearts. 😢
@@TheOriginalFoxtrotCharlie I’m from Australia as well. I’ve been following this case from the beginning. It’s dreadfully sad and I feel for the families. I think they have the right man.
One of the most fascinating crime cases ever. That bridge gives me the absolute creeps - really the eeriest feeling. If ever there was a setting for a murder, it is that bridge, the forest and the river. Watching from South Africa.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
Oh or the felon x cop from Rushville who couldn’t testify to the Odin bullshit because he is incarcerated right now for falsifying cps documents and forgery of cps documents ………. So….. I mean he is real reliable honest witness!!!!
I still haven't heard/seen any real evidence to convince me that Richard Allen is guilty of anything. The police investigation and trial are a freakin clown show. Those two young girls, Abby & Libby, deserve better than this.
❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️ Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
@@udhehfhehcuw9169They found the bullet days after the crime scene had been “re-secured”. This isn’t something made up by the defense, it comes from the police’s own discovery that was handed over. There was no chain of custody for that bullet. Law enforcement screwed up this investigation from day one.
@@udhehfhehcuw9169 No it's not evidence. There are dozens of expert gunsmiths that will prove it to be junk science, especially since the round was not fired.
@@udhehfhehcuw9169 Of course it was planted there! The crime scene was completely unsecured. And if it wasn’t planted and RA is the guy, he will probably be found not guilty or get released on appeal because there was no chain of custody for that bullet! Law enforcement was an absolute joke for how many years??? They’ve let those poor girls down horribly. The cops will never arrest someone else after Richard Allen gets off.
The injustice by the cops, judge and prosecutors is horrendous. The fact that all of these people have lied, hid evidence or for the judge who refused to step away after unjustly taking his attorneys away to me proves they don’t have the right person and something nefarious is happening. Imagine if RA was your dad, grandpa, brother, uncle, spouse, friend……. Also why are the families not outraged on how they have handled this investigation & how they are ensuring RA be exonerated in appeals by the treatment. If I was the family, I would be demanding he has a fair trial so the truth comes out.
I have asked this question to hundreds of people on youtube and noone will answer it. My question is "Who confesses to one or more people but then doesn't change their plea?" -it...makes....no sense. ????????
@@Emeraldcity70 IMO, somebody whose attorneys tell him to wait until there will be a benefit to him to change his plea would not change it. Most defendants that are set to go to trial take a plea deal, but they are offered the deal first. We don't know if the prosecution is offering one here or if they did long ago and that ship has sailed.
The biggest thing that bothers me is how different the two sketches are. Also, how can this guy go so long, w the sketch in the store, he worked at, and supposedly, not one person said anything after all these years? I thought he was guilty at first, but now I'm not too sure
Every phone call is recorded in prison and in jails if dude told his wife he did it that's kinda case closed. The prosecution will have to show the recording at trial I'm assuming. Innocent people don't confess to their wives when they think they are having a private conversation.
They have a bullet that cycled through his gun at the scene of the crime, it has been matched. He admits to being at the crime scene at the time they were murdered He admits to wearing the same clothes as the man Libby recorded. He already admitted to being there so it's him on video. Libby obviously took that video because she felt unsafe. He admitted he did the crime over 60 times to his own wife and family. He obviously has psychological issues; because anyone who kills two random children is probably insane. He's probably had psych issues for a long time, it's probably *why* he did the crime. So I do not think him being crazy excludes him from being guilty.
@@bruderschweigen6889 nobody thinks they are having a private conversation on a jail phone! As a matter of fact... their is a recorded message before your call is connected INFORMING the caller that ALL calls are recorded.
The pictures with his wife showing his face down with a hat, longer hair and beer belly and his right hand in his pocket like he was on the bridge definitely looks like Richard Allen.
Finally something going for him. Regardless if he did, or didn’t do it, that judge not recusing herself has already opened this fiasco up to appeal after appeal. They might as well skip the trial and go straight to appeals. So unfair to Abby and Libby and their families. This has been a cluster f*ck from the get go. At this point, listening to the prosecution and that ridiculous judge Gull, absolutely settled me on the side of the defence. What an utter farce! Those girls basically provided the best evidence ever and the police f*cked it up. Big time. And that Gull woman - holding on for dear life to get her 5 mins of fame on the backs of two murdered girls - is disgusting.
I think you're right except for the evidence being strong. The original PD dropped the ball too. They didn't even take the branches that covered the girls to check for DNA. They didn't take the tree that had markings drawn. They didn't find the bullet initially. They didn't keep notes or recordings from the original interviews. They messed this up from Day 1. Whoever did this will likely never truly pay.
The judge, Honorable Judge Gull, respectively, is doing a good job. She is a professional and rules her court as such. She truly is watching out for RA’s well-being. If it were up to me I’d release him into general population in the county jail. I’d make him eat in the lunch area, shower, share a cell, work duties, and be in the rec yard with the other prisoners. Since the same mental health services aren’t available as in prison, he would not receive any. I would treat him as any other prisoner awaiting trial. IMO he should not be receiving any special circumstances and he for sure would not be in solitary confinement. He was investigated, arrested, and is awaiting trial for the murder and kidnapping of two innocent young girls. He has no alibi nor proclaimed innocence. In the eyes of the law, yes, he is considered innocent until proven guilty. That’s why I’d treat him like all the other prisoners. I would not protect him. I’d let him figure out life on the inside on his own. The focus of this case is so off track. It’s not about RA and I wish people would stop making it about him. It’s about justice for Abigail Williams and Liberty German. The outcome is near.
At this stage, this is a highly questionable case. The Judges, Attorneys and Police have done an injustice. There are too many very normal questionable actions by all involved.
The injustice is the daily lies the defense has put out, circumventing the gag order, in an attempt to sway public opinion and taint a jury pool..The Prosecution has been completely silent on the evidence details, abiding with the Gag Order..They've added two separate murder charges so they are extremely confident. When the trial starts, then I believe you'll understand.
@ccccarriemchardy9216 information deemed previously irrelevant is non admissible by Indiana Law..The Judge said that yesterday in her response. The information you speak of was deemed irrelevant years ago.
I've been following this case since the day they released the photo of Bridge Guy. I really hope they have the right suspect.. I, like many others, have my doubts.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
You are joking, he looks just like the bridge guy, and he admitted to his wife two times. Even states he did it because one girls mom was dating someone outside thoer race. It tracks 100%.
@maddieman5921 he looks just like Bridge Guy because he is Bridge Guy. He admitted to being on the bridge, he owns the same blue jacket, has the same build. Not really sure how anybody can doubt that it's him.
On the contrary, justice is served, if authorities have the right suspect in custody. Simply stating that authorities don't have the right suspect, isn't justification for Richard Allen's innocence in this case. There's some rock solid evidence against Richard Allen. If you want to take the moral high ground and say, "they have the wrong person," then evidence should be made to support your accusations. If you can't, then we can place you in the "I just say stupid stuff, just to get hits" section of this investigation. Believe me, there's plenty of these people spanning the internet today.
Even if he’s found guilty. He will win a right to appeal it and possibly overturn it. They are holding him in prison not a jail. Like he’s already guilty. Sorry but you have to follow all the rules state of Indiana. Tsk tsk.
@Lori-54 The defense isn't even saying where the phone that he was glued to was from noon til 4 that day. He didn't show up in the geofencing that started at 12:41 pm and that makes no sense. This man is guilty of making himself look guilty. There's no money to be made in that.
@@hoppercar what it has become really? So good old boys running police departments back in the day that allowed hate crimes that’s better? Look at statistics from back in the day till now.. please join the police department and make it better since you know best.
@carter_1 google the update on this case geofence data on cell phone at the crime scene has been released as well as phone ping data about Libby's phone the night girls went missing
The only pharmacy in town and mike and becky dont know Richard Allen?...the guy that processed your funeral photos...free of charge.!? Its a small town where "everyone knows everyone" ... Very strange.?
@@suewalker8586no it’s not! I give free floral arrangements for funerals cuz people have enough to worry about 🤦🏾♀️with your logic I killed 20 people?
@@suewalker8586Ok 😂 printing photos/flyers free of charge for the families of missing persons is practically standard protocol now. It’s been a common practice for businesses who show their support for years now. Hardly a red flag 😅😅😅
I hope the trial reveals the truth. I think the case as it is now (in view of the public) raises a lot of reasonable doubt- especially with the Delphi authorities incompetence of handling evidence.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
The last motion from the prosecutor wants to basically limit any defense they can present. And the prosecution is asking the judge to grant it without a hearing. If she approves that, very possible, they will railroad him.
@@TxfreeandlovenitWill he be alive for that? Because he is deteriorating quickly, physically and mentally. Without taking in consideration that prison will be even worst than the conditions he has now, after the conviction. I he is not guilty, they already ruined this man’s life.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
But why would he confess to his wife over the phone? Confessing to police out of coercion maybe but to his own wife? Are we buying that the prison guards also happen to be in this cult and threatened him into confessing to his wife?
I first moved to Delphi in 2001 I was 8 years old , I lived there from 2001 to 2012 , went to elm. school, 2nd grade to 5th into middle school 6th through 8th grade then moved before highschool, now im 31 and I’m only 10 minutes from Delphi and I still go to Delphi till this day .. like the one girl said in the beginning..Delphi is such a small town .. no one would have ever thought this would happen to such a small town .
This. I also keep seeing all the conspiracy nuts going on about corruption in Delphi and how the town deserves to be a ghost town after all this. Like no... My wife and in laws are from Delphi. I'm there all the time and it's a cute little town with kind people and a rich history. They don't deserve all this attention. My wife knew the girls.
She's not just biased, she's lazy. She hasn't even read any of the filings by the defense. She just denies them. When they request a Franks hearing she denies. She's too lazy to do her job. She doesn't even give reasons for her denial just deny. This is exactly why Baldwin and Rozzi were reinstated. The Supremes knew she hadn't done her job. They also know this whole case is headed for appeal.
If Richard Allen turns out to be guilty someone needs to be held accountable for his statement going unnoticed for 5 years. Again, IF Richard is guilty that mistake allowed a child murderer to walk among us unchecked for years. Not to mention the millions of our tax dollars wasted on dead ends.
@@marvinhunt8276 oh you mean during the same time period he was eating his own poop? The same time he was having a psychotic episode according to his prison doctor? It’s possible he did it. It’s also possible he didn’t.
@@tizza963 He admitted to kiIIing these girls 60 times *with details* even more if you were to count the times he said he did it without adding any details. How do you know exact details of the murders if you weren't the one to commit them? The guy is guilty! Everything they have will come out in the trial.
@@tizza963 That would be odd to say that someone confessed to murder that many times if they didn't have proof of it. If it was a lie, I'm sure they would have said a much lower believable number. And yes, everything will come out in the trial.
Cynth….. What a beautiful voice you have. What a beautiful friend you are, still, to those girls. You are very strong and you are amazing, I hope you know that❤️
It really doesn't make much sense that a person that worked a job as in CVS Pharmacy where a couple of hundred people a day could have possibly seen him doesn't make a connection for six years just boggles my mind. It just seems a connection should have been made sooner.
Something is rotten in Delphi. The fact that the judge was taken off the case. The fact that the police that had access to the pictures and took pictures of it screams volumes to me that they know this man is innocent and they're trying to put it out there. The judge was taken off the case and this piece of crap was put😂😂 in his place is ridiculous. And then took his defense counsel off and put somebody else on is ridiculous thank God that he got these attorneys back. And what they're calling a confession is nothing more than a couple of statements he made to his wife. It's ridiculous. They are railroading this man
The man IS GUILTY. he looks like the bridge guy, had the same clothes he admitted himself BEFORE he knew the picture of him existed, he has a gun with the same markings cartridge, he was on the bridge at the same time. And about that drawing of a suspect - Libby’s grandpa looks like that drawing. Any man with a beard looks like it. Richard allen also looks like it. He also walks similarly.
@@bambinaforever1402 you obviously haven't done a deep dive into the "evidence" or viability of other suspects. Allen was railroaded, guilty or not, they have NOT proven anything! And all the legal bs just makes him look innocent.
If your husband was arrested for this, and you found out that he told cops he was ON THE BRIDGE the day of the incident (and he never said that to you, never mentioned being there) wouldnt you question it? He put himself there, he told a conservation officer before the girls bodies were even found that he was there. Then he just decides to keep quiet about that for 6 years. Isnt that enough to seriously question things?
@@Pozorrogonope, I'd worry I'd be railroaded just like he was/is being. This man is innocent until proven guilty. Did you know there's evidence of 3 people being in the area of the bodies? Did you know all the recorded interviews of the original suspects are erased? Did you know slick nick the prosecutor has ties to the initial suspects? There is too much evidence there were 3 possibly 4 people involved who took the girls out of the area to murder them then brought them back. Libby's cell phone pinged at 1 pm (I think) then went dead until 4 am the next day. Too much evidence pointing to someone else.
@@PJTYLERNot only was he being tortured and abused but his family was being threatened. At the end of one of his phone calls with his confession before he hangs up he asks is that ok, is my family ok.
Horrible crime. But there is something creepy and loathsome about someone who goes and hangs out in front of a courthouse with a loudspeaker just to scream at the accused before the trial has even started.
Agreed. Many people have that ‘guilty until proven innocent’ mindset in this country. Almost want those who do it to experience a false arrest and be treated the same. Very un-American attitude
Especially in a case like this where there is serious doubt as to whether the accused is actually guilty or not. Im not opposed to heckling killers before their trial when what the public knows shows clear proof of guilt. I think this guy IS guilty but there is a more nuanced and intricate story than "guy takes opportunity to kill girls" and the prosecution has stronger evidence that hasnt been publicly released
Just woke up and THIS was airing. Well-done! Really, one of the best Delphi shows yet. My compliments to the person(s) who made the decisions on this show.
I don’t know if Richard Allen is guilty. I don’t believe he will get a fair trial and sometimes innocent people are put in prison. This is all messed up. Rest in peace Libby and Abbey.
This. No one knows enough yet to definitively say guilty or not. What we can say is there is a lot of suspicious behavior by the lawyers and judge and RA deserves a fair trial which he is not getting.
For justice it has to be the right person. I pray for true justice in this case. For Libby and Abby who are at peace and for all those who love them who are still desperately trying to find it.
Totally agree. And if there is too much reasonable doubt then Allen should go free. That video though, if it was one of my close relatives I'd immediately know it was him. I wonder what his family think of the bridge man video clip...
As a lifelong Delphi resident and I know all these families fairly well i just want justice for the girls. It has rocked our town to its core but we havent backed down with trying to find the truth. I sure hope they do have the right guy but I have no idea if they do or not.
if it was one person who committed this crime, I keep thinking, one of those poor children was the last to die..so did he tie one up, or what? just babies really. Poor little girls. I just think there is more than one person involved. Those poor families..waiting all those years and wondering day and night Heartbreaking..Bless them all!
@@nemonucliosisvery unfortunate it's kinda turned into that. I think people over look to innocent little girls lost their lives & there families are forever affected. I just hope the get this right. I think the defense has created plenty of reasonable doubt
@@michaelameyer6294 I don't think there's as many twists and turns with that. I'd say he is guilty and I've watched quite a bit of it as well. There's more damning evidence against him
Yes! That was my comment on the advertisement of this special. I watched it live and was not able to rewind it. Now that I can watch it again, he was starting to say VICTIMS!
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
Again, This was a public trail where crazy sh** like this never happened. It's common for kids growing up in rural areas to go outside in areas like these.
My mom said the same stuff I'm not dropping you off at no wooded area.If you want to wonder off and go on your own then your not obeying me and doing things that I told you not to.These days you can't take a nice walk and explore cuz there's a creep or creeps lurking
@@JoeyH-sb3fq One accidental fall from that bridge would've been deadly. Just because trails are public does not mean they are safe. Some parents are way too nonchalant.
It’s heartbreaking that almost nobody agrees with this. Our society deems we are innocent until proven guilty. Should innocent people be treated this way?
@us4damons I have written such a thing myself...it was 60 to 100 ft high.. it had no railings..the old wood under there feet was broken.. And if someone followed them they had no place to run to. They couldn't go back because the person was right behind. Them could have pushed them off. I suppose they thought and then he told them to go down the hill. Oh my God, just thought of it drives me crazy. Well. I may have been a really old-fashioned. Mom, but and I'm not blaming anybody. But I never would have permitted my children on it never
This case really concerns me!!! First, I'm very much pro-police. I have law enforcement family and love/believe in our justice system. However, I'm just not sure they have the right guy. My greatest desire for this case is justice for these 2 beautiful girls and their families!!! RIP Libby and Abbey!!!! ❤️❤️
They do have the right guy. The problem is there are many of you out there that don't think they do cause of their gross incompetence. Idk about you but when I heard them say the round was inspected by someone with experience in extraction marks, that threw up a huge red flag. Who the hell has experience in that? ISP said the exact same thing about someone with blood pattern recognition experience who got David Camm sent to prison for 13 years for killing his family a crime he didn't commit.
@@bradsanders407 Let’s pray they do. Idw an innocent man in prison or a guilty man walking free. Both sides have been telling lies. I don’t have confidence in either & I seriously think this judge is making major mistakes.
I would just like to say that it is really difficult to judge someone's height from a distance, even if you are just driving by them. You could easily describe someone that is 5 ft 4 in as a little bit taller. You don't really know until you're standing next to someone what their height is.
Everyone thinks that I am at least 5’7 and I am 5’3. I have long legs and I look tall, but I am not so I feel like that man on the bridge was shorter. He looks 5’5 to me.
@@MisterRlGHT it is absolutely up to the judge. In fact she allowed cameras in the hearing where she was ready to publicly embarrass the defense attys last October. Yet she hasn't allowed them since. See the docket. She has denied media requests ever since.
@@MisterRlGHTit’s up to the judge 100%. I worked as an armed guard in a courtroom and the JUDGE has the final decision for anything and everything that happens in that courtroom. Do a little research before doubting someone 🙄 your username says it all though…
Isn't It sad though , children should be able to play and walk and explore anywhere and be safe from predators....the only person responsible for what happened is the person who killed them.
Idk if Allen is guilty or not but imo there are several people involved so if Allen was involved he didn’t do it alone or he only participated in some aspects of the crime itself
The real killers is or is in with local higher up authorities. That explains this huge mess and missing, fake evidence. This case will most likely never be solved, that was the killers plan from the very beginning. Such a tragic catastrophy... My thoughts are always with the victims & their families.
Nowadays juries are the LEAST important part of the Justice System .?? The case is decided by armchair detectives and self appointed lawyers. Like the Idaho 4 case...
Here's what I'm having a difficult time with. Many decades ago when I was a teen girl, my friends and I spent a fair amount of time in the drugstore - samples, trying on makeup, seeing what's on sale, looking through seasonal, etc. This is a small town. Even the gal's friend said they knew RA from the CVS. The gal's were alert enough to record the creep that most likely did this (giving presumption of innocence). Yet neither of them said any identifiers regarding RA such as that's the guy from the drugstore, or isn't that RA? There probably is a lot more on the video than has been released. Hopefully, there is more evidence, if he's the perp.
I personally didn't hang out in drugstores as a teen nor do I now. I'd say these days I go there maybe once every season, if not less than that, and went there much less as a teen. I would have been hard pressed to think of something I'd rather do less than hang out at CVS as a teen. I certainly didn't memorize middle aged men's faces of people who were workers at any store whatsoever when I was 13 or 14 either. Add to that the stress of having a man who's looking like he's following you in a largely wilderness area when no one else seems to be around, and I don't think they'd be in the frame of mind to start recognizing him immediately and also having the presence of mind to refer to him by his full name (if they knew it) while trying to see if they (as middle-schoolers) can talk their way out of a scary perceived threat. I do agree with you though that with a bit less than 3K people in town and knowing that they should work that town first and then work their way out, because someone in town would be familiar with those trails, I'd be shocked if they didn't know it was RA fairly early on after having the time to scrutinize the men in town. But you can't just arrest someone off of saying we really feel like it's him. The judge would laugh that search warrant request out of their court, and rightfully so. His phone that he said he was using didn't show up in the geofencing *at all,* so there was another strike "not putting him there" until they realized that he said he was glued to his phone that wasn't showing up on the geofencing that happened in 2019 and that was for Feb 13 with a start time of 12:41, when RA in his altered timeline, claimed to have been there at the trails. This defendant's stories are not making sense and I don't stand for that from a double child homicide defendant.
@@rowingnowWhereurbreadsbuttered There are so many twists and turns, it will be interesting to see the evidence presented. That there were so many perps and shady guys identified early on in such a small community is disheartening. We truly don't know what goes on in the minds and lives of others.
Well for one he had his mouth covered with a scarf so without his CVS clothes on its not surprising they wouldn't have recognized him. Also knowing of someone isn't the same as knowing their name. Something I've been trying to figure out is how it was announced they wouldn't have school that day. Was it public knowledge or would you have had to had a kid in school to know or have told you? And where was his daughter at the time?
@@bradsanders407in Indiana when kids are signed up for school the parents/gaurdians sign up for a weather alert system. They put who gets the alerts to their phones on a form. So generally mom or dad or both will have their names on the form along with their phone numbers. They can also list other people as back up to get an alert along with their phone numbers. So say school is canceled due to weather then everyone who has a name and number on form is called and given a recorded alert stating school is either delayed or closed for the day due to the weather. Assuming Becky and Anna probably got the alert if any alert was sent out the day of the crime. If it was a scheduled day off usually schools post that on school calendar given at beginning of the year on paper, calendar is posted on school website, and some schools put reminders displayed on exterior of school building of any closures.
@@rowingnowWhereurbreadsbutteredwhoever the murderer is doesn’t have to be local to find out when the school was going to be closed if it’s scheduled. Even if it’s last minute closed due to weather all the murderer would have to do is go online check the schools website to find closing info or on local news.
And the Failed sheriff Mike Thomas is exactly why this case is getting derailed. He needs to get over losing. Hope he gets charged with witness tampering.
And??? That's a NON SEQUITUR unless you can tie some other additional nefarious evidence to it. You might as well say: "the arrest came on a sunny day, does that have some additional significance?"... Face palm.
Where were they whenever Larry Nassar was abusing multiple women on the USA gymnastics team for several years? Oh yeah they love to help traffickers so no they won’t be of any help
@@jase4270nope they aren't on it, don't spread misinformation. They initially were involved but the FBI is not actively investigating nor have they investigated the people in charge of the case.
The fact that he is sitting in prison before trial is a miscarriage of justice! Looks like they already found him guilty with no trial. I think they interrogated him for hours and hours with no sleep, and threatening his family is why he confessed. That's how false confessions are made. They didn't have clear evidence of his guilt and they were probably under pressure to solve the case. How sad for Libby and Abby's family and friends! I was really hoping they found the killer, but now I have doubts.
I am a born and raised citizen of Carol County. I do not know Richard Alan personally, but I have followed this case since day one considering I am very close to one of the family members this case makes no sense. I truly pray that the families finally received the truth That Richard Alan going on trial and October 2024since his trial date was moved back there are a lot of discrepancies I truly hope justice can prevail
Why did Abby's friend "immediately know something was wrong" when she saw the 2:09 Snapchat pic? I don't understand why that pic would make her suspect anything. Odd comment to make without explanation.
Because Abby never crossed the bridge before. The Snapchat photo of Abby is believed to be photoshopped to establish a false timeline of the murders. That’s just a small nugget of information out there.
Yeah I felt the same. The picture doesn't give a weird vibe at all, she could have elaborated on why she felt like that (as a best friend she might see more than is on that pic)
Later in video she says she knew A&L had been on some social media sites and met people online. So when she saw Snapchat (as the 13yr old she was) she may have thought they were likely meeting someone. That may have been the lead that landed LE on the other child sexual predator who the girls communicated with but is not the killer. Also don’t forget these news interviews are edited and often leave out context clues.
I’ve always guessed she was going to meet some boy and started filming when she realized she had been catfished. It was the day before Valentine’s Day and she even brought a friend to be safe.
The fact that Richard wanted this trial televised tells me he's innocent. He clearly wants the world to see the evidence. Why would a murderer want the world to see the evidence for themselves?
@@borndreamer2735 you can call anyone anything you want however doesn’t make it so. In terms of any mental issues yes he would have needed to be diagnosed properly.
God, i can't stand that hecklers voice. Almost made me not watch the video, but i forward it. This is a horrible case. I'd live to see justice for Abby and Libby and that means a fair trial for the suspects. Right now it doesn't seem to be Richard Allen... It appears to be more vengeance that this county is after, not justice.
I am from indiana. John Razumich is a criminal defense lawyer who is following this case. His youtube channel is John Razumich. A lot of information is repetitive but he has a few details that no one else has covered. I don't think Richard Allen did it.
@@RyanPeoples-j8r The fact that he was in the vincinity. The fact that he confessed in jail to his wife and mother while jailers who wore Odism patches on their uniforms listened to his jail phone calls.The fact they found 1 bullet buried between the girls that could have come from a gun he owns? They can't say for certain but a possibility. Now from the defense. Pagan rituals happen by water sources. The creek/river was nearby. Pagan rituals primarily use knives to kill. Both were killed by a knife. NO DNA FROM RICHARD ALLEN was found on or near these girls. . According to the FBI, it would take 92-96 individual actions in a 2 hour window to kill and lay these girls' bodies in the way they were found. Their conclusion was it had to be more than 1 person. NO.DNA FROM RICHARD ALLEN WAS FOUND ON OR NEAR THESE GIRLS. One of these girls was dating a son who's father was an Odonist. Another group in a different county wanted to join this group. When the police contacted this group, they found on a Facebook page from one of these individuals the exact formation of how these girls was found. This knowledge was only known to the police. This individual who's Facebook page they found this info on confessed to his sister and someone else he was there when the girls were killed. He asked the police when interrogated would they find his DNA if he spat on one of them. The picture of the younger suspect was the first one the police had and they tried to persuade the lady who gave it to them to change her mind to fit more of the 2nd picture. She didn't change her vision of the suspect. Finally, there were 2 investigations, one from the 1 individual who the state charged was Richard Allen and the 2nd was from pagan rituals which turned out to be Odinism. During the early investigation of this case on the paganism side the investigators supposedly set up DVR'S to record the conversation of individuals to keep as evidence for the case. Every one of these conversations were recorded over multiple times. The police didn't even keep a log of who they talked to and never told the defense. They found out accidentally. Just as FYI....Everytime the defense has requested money for Richard Allen, they have been denied yet the lead prosecutor, lead investigator and someone else are giving themselves raises because they are working on this case. Now tell me why the state says it was him? I want Justice for these girls. I want the man/men who did these evil acts to meet their makers in jail but I want it to be the right ones and I can't say Richard Allen is the one.
@ivyrose779 I honestly don't know. I don't belong to any of them. The FBI, in their conclusion, stated this was a pagan sacrifice killing with another death. They said from experts in the field and knowledge base that pagan killings happen near water. Their bodies were found near the creek. They use knives instead of guns to kill. The weapon was a knife to their carotid artery. Their investigation stated that 92-96 individual steps were needed from the moment they saw the video to the time of their approximate death. That is a 2 hr time frame. You would think someone had to touch the bodies to place them in that position with the wood framing them. THEY DID NOT FIND RA DNA NOR FOOTPRINTS THAT MATCHED RA. However, in their investigation, his DA talked to the lead investigator and how they found the exact depiction on a guy's Facebook page of how the girls were depicted shortly after. No one except the police had that info. They talked to this individual, and he asked them if they would find his DNA after spitting on one of them. Finally, this guy confessed to his sister and someone else he and others were the ones who killed these 2 girls, but RA was not one of them. One of the girls was dating the son of an Odonist, and this guy and his friends wanted to join his sect of the organization. When these murders first occurred, the first eye witnessed saw a man on the bridge who was young and described him to the police. Both of them were on the bridge before she turned away to go back to her car. According to her, the police wanted her to change the description of who she saw, but she refused to change it. The DA did not find out about this until late last year that the police set up multiple dvr's to record interviews with those in the pagan side of the investigation, but these interviews were recorded over multiple times with no log of knowing who was interviewed and by whom. Lastly, the only time this judge has and is going to allow cameras in the courtroom was when she got the DA's removed from this case. Every motion from the DA has been denied. They requested money for experts to go against the PA exports. She denied it. It is why they were able to raise at least $25000 in a GoFundMe type campaign, but the lead PA, the lead investigator, and someone else are getting raises for their work on this case. One final note, the composite sketch of the older gentleman was everywhere in Delphi. It was in every business window, including the CVS that RA worked at, and no one made the conection? Now, onto the States case. Of course, we don't know everything they have, but what they have said was he admitted he was on the bridge during the time of their disappearance and deaths. "He" confessed to killing them during phone conversations to his wife and mother after being locked up in prison after being abused by guards who wear Odinism patches on their uniforms. Finally, the bullet that was found 2 inches into the ground between the girls could have come from a gun he owned. They can not confirm that it came from that gun, but there weren't enough etchings on the bullet to confirm it came from his gun, but it could have. If that is the strongest evidence the state has, these 2 experienced DA are going to rip the States case apart. I'm going to ask John if he is going to the trial and if so, what day. I want to be there also.
I walk my dogs down that trail occasionally. They have crosses and some things like that for those girls at the bridge. It’s an incredibly beautiful area, but you get an eerie feeling knowing what happened there.
@@bradsanders407 Ok here is your chance to prove that you know it all like you think you do. Show the document that states what you claim. Prove what you say blabbermouth.
@@Creamy-1988 In fact, the only mention of height is Bre Wilbur, who was 5’7 in 2017. She said she came up to the man’s shoulders. Meaning, the man she saw was considerably taller than her.
I can’t find my previous comment but look up James Brian Chadwell, he is from the next town over. He is identical to the sketch, has a tattoo that looks identical to one of the Delphi girls on his arm, he was caught raping & strangling a 9 year old girl mid act & even his brother thinks he’s the real killer. I just can’t wrap my head around it being anyone else.
The judge who resigned this week was not the judge on this case anymore, he had recused himself in 11/22. Judge Gull, who was then appointed Special Judge, remains on the case today.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
Unfortunately you should not have faith in our legal system as there is little to no justice in our legal system. My niece was held at gun point for 3 days and raped….he got 3 years probation and is currently in jail for doing the same thing to the next girl less than a year later. Except he used a hammer since he can’t have a gun anymore. But sell marijuana or lie about your address to get your kid in school (unless famous) 5 years in jail.
Hello London, it is a mess. But, democracy and justice are messy. They'll sort it out. As our guy Churchill said "Democracy is the worst form of government except for everything else". Poor little girls. ♥ Poor families. They will never get over this.😥
Eric Williams, the guy at 6:27 he says, "Ravines, ditches, trashcans, their phones, any, any signs of vict..of the girls". Was that a interview during the search or after they were found? If it was before they were found, that would strike me as very odd the way he almost said victims.
I cannot imagine being that age knowing they were in serious trouble & Libby still had the strength & bravery to record their killer. Their families deserve justice.
R.I.P. Abby 🩷🙏🏽🩷 This was not meant to be the end of your story. I am so truly sorry. R.I.P. Libby 💜🙏🏽💜 You also were not meant for this to be the end of your story. Life is so unfair I am so sorry. Rest peacefully in heaven with your best friend. Love and prayers to family and friends. Especially the beautiful best friend left behind!! ❤🙏🏽❤ Stay strong sweetheart you have the world behind you!! 🫶🏽
@@nemonucliosis Multiple people who are actually involved in the case have said he has been mistreated. Judge Gull has proved herself to be biased. It's about persevering our rights which she has tried to take away multiple times. The Supreme Court ruled against her and that's telling us everything we need to know. So bye bye!
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Has the judge who recused himself and stepped down from the case, been investigated 🤷♀️ could he have something to do with this, and it’s the reason he couldn’t sit on the case (guilt) Has anyone even thought about that 🤷♀️I think it needs to be investigated further by outside authorities and investigators
The ADL??? Seriously, Court TV?!? The ADL, like the SPLC, considers anyone who doesn't have their specific point of view as "extremists". They consider patriotic Americans as "extremists". If you think the Constitution is a great document, the ADL considers you as an "extremist". Believe in free speech (which is obviously the 1st Amendment)? 2nd Amendment supporter? Yep, the ADL considers you an "eXtReMiSt". Believe in biology which proves there are only 2 genders? "eXtReMiSt". Don't think men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? You guessed it, "eXtReMiSt". It goes on and on with the ADL and SPLC. It's absolutely unbelievable that Court TV would use them as a "credible" source. They are insanely left wing to the point of totalitarian. It actually causes me to not take Court TV seriously.
The ADL??? Seriously, Court TV?!? The ADL, like the SPLC, considers anyone who doesn't have their specific point of view as "extremists". They consider patriotic Americans as "extremists". If you think the Constitution is a great document, the ADL considers you as an "extremist". Believe in free speech (which is obviously the 1st Amendment)? 2nd Amendment supporter? Yep, the ADL considers you an "eXtReMiSt". Believe in biology which proves there are only 2 genders? "eXtReMiSt". Don't think men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? You guessed it, "eXtReMiSt". It goes on and on with the ADL and SPLC. It's absolutely unbelievable that Court TV would use them as a "credible" source. They are insanely left wing to the point of totalitarian. It actually causes me to not take Court TV seriously.
One of the saddest things is seeing how much older their friend is now. Both girls would be in their twenties now, had their lives not been cut so short.
Can’t believe it’s been so long 😔
The thing is, you'd never know they existed unless this happened.
@@WyattsVlog what's your point?
@@soggdogg Celebrate life
@@WyattsVlogbe we know or have kids correct? So we can make the connection
Long ago, a 9 year-old girl went missing in our hometown. Her body was found not far from our house. It changed our lives. To me and my 4 younger sisters, nothing felt safe after that.
Decades passed before DNA solved the case. It turned out that her killer was actually someone who'd never been on police radar. Two years after the killing, he had
committed suicide because, it was believed, that he felt law enforcement was getting close to arresting him.
By then, her parents had already passed away, but her brother was still alive to get the news.
Now, I hope Abby and Libby's families won't have to wait that long for justice.
Rest in peace, Debbie Randall. Extra angels of comfort to those who loved you.
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I just wanted to acknowledge what beautiful emotions and care you chose to show in this message. I'm sorry you lost your childhood. I'm so very sorry a 9 year old lost her life. What I take from this, is that no matter what rocks and stones come our way, it does not quell the kindness and beautiful nature you've illustrated today. @mortalclown3812 I wish you peace, compartments for troubles and love.
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Thanks you for sharing your sentiments. You expressed yourself well. I’m sure she would be very pleased with your comments and memorializing of her passing. God Bless.
How dear you are to remember her and share her name. I’m so sorry her life was stolen as well as you and your sisters lost too taken by such evil im sorry
Marietta back in the early 1970’s right?
I gotta hand it to Libby she knew something was going to happen so she did everything that she could to ensure that this man would not get away with it she was a strong and brave girl.
Much smarter than the police, unfortunately
This can be a cautionary tale for other young girls. There is literally no reason for two young girls to go meet a man in the woods!! What was going to happen?? Were they trying to have a little bit of fun?? Obviously things did not go as planned.
Richard Allen would undoubtedly get away with this, were it not for the video! The two things don’t need to be mutually exclusive: Rick Allen can be guilty AND the keystone cops flubbed the investigation to begin with.
@@DakotaFord592 why do you think they were meeting someone?
@@Cecil-hotel two little girls trying to go have fun. Two little girls who should have been at home reading a book. Two little girls who had no business meeting a random man of the woods. Tf.
Seeing Abby & Libby’s friend grown up, driving, a literal adult now, is so bittersweet. I’m saddened she was made to complete her youth w/o her best friends😢. She’s well-spoken & articulate. I pray she has a good life. Justice for Abby & Libby.❤❤
@mom2babygkaterad946. I agree and felt/ thought the same.
I also hold high respect for her, the friend, Cynth’s parents for protecting her privacy during the horrible period after the murders.
I am glad that they protected her to the extent that I, and I suspect many others, were not familiar with her name.
She's also a singer songwriter working on her first album, google her name Cynth Rossi and you can find some of the tracks she's released already. She's a wonderful young woman who is very talented.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
I thought the same thing. Sometimes we lose the notion of how much time this has passed. Now looking at this girl, is like they would be this grown up now. Poor girls
My son was a year younger then Abby and Libby at the timemow( 20 now), but seeing her really puts it into perspective.
Abby and Libby hit me hard, maybe Abby’s photo with the hat. When I was in fourth grade a man tried to get me in his car when I was walking home from school. My friend who went towards her home on the next block heard me screaming and came back. Just enough to get him to flee in his car. To me she saved my life.
Cynth Rossi I much appreciated how beautifully you spoke about both Abby and Libby. Your story puts into perspective the impact on friends, classmates, and the community. I hope you find peace and happiness. I watched you knowing they should be your age. Hugs to you.
You made me cry, I was going to comment but you said it all.
I pray for everyone involved. This should not have happened!! No one seems to be safe anymore!! 🩷🙏🏽🩷
It's not fair for the children. We live in a terrible society when you can't trust anyone anymore.
Yes, I feel like I know sweet Abby and funny/silly Libby. They are our little girls 🦋🦋
When I was 5 or 6, around 1987, a man showed up at my school trying to check me out. Had all of my info and said he was there to get me.
Thank, God the secretary In the office knew me personally and just had a bad feeling. She went to go get my file because they weren't on computers back then, and when she got back, the man had left.
She wasn't going to let him take me from school. To this day, it still blows my mind that a stranger was able to get all of my info and was brave enough to try and check me out of school as if he were a family member.
Crimes against all children are disgusting
"Journalism. It's time for you to start being journalists." Love that remark.
I agree! BUT, It’s also time our younger generation quit will all the conspiracy theories been going on for long enough!! 🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@lynetteeades9010people will always have them, the older generations have many baseless conspiracies that are still strongly believed today, but a majority of these conspiracies are based off actual information. At least the younger generation can use critical thinking to decide what is and what isn’t a genuine conspiracy or just bs. So, at least feel some pride for the youth being able to tell the difference between fact and fiction.
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Am I the only one that wants to hear Richard Allen talk? They should be able tell if that’s his voice or not on the phone video the girl took? Am I the only one lol
There are software programs that can identify the different speed and intonation of your voice.
Nope, you definitely aren't the only only one!
KA either deleted most all of & or kept silent on her fb of him! IMO, that's Sus, unless LE said hey you might want to remove him from your fb😏
I've heard 1 very small clip of his voice in a vid that KA made & her vid of him in their car, of her sneaking up on him, but not his voice in that one😏
There was video of him talking on his wife's fb. It didn't sound exactly the same but you really can't tell from the crime audio since it would have been muffled from being put in a pocket as well as a persons voice will change in a highly excited/stressed state.
@@Princelover-ip4gn it's not going to tell anything from the short 3 words in the audio from Libbys phone.
@@bradsanders407 LE has far more than those 4 words recorded. That is all that they released to the public during the search for the killer.
Been following this case since 2018. What a mess
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
Yeah really. And law enforcement simply refuse to admit they were wrong and screwed up big time and tried to hide this fact by pretending like it's such a "complex" case and the public needed protected from the probable cause affidavit. When in reality they didnt want everyone knowing that he came to them before they released his picture, just barely, and simply brushed him off. Had he waited til that next night to tell law enforcement he was there they would have lost this case forever by releasing that picture. He sure as hell wouldn't have come forward then. Like what the hell is complex about it? You have him on camera driving to the spot he parked his car. He walked to the bridge and kidnapped 2 kids took them down to a hidden area and killed them. They even have audio of the abduction. Then he walks out of there muddy and bloody and is seen by a witness doing so. I'm sorry but this is the least complex case I've ever heard of. How many abduction do they ever have audio of? And video of the guy approaching? This is all just the tip of the iceberg in their inexcusable incompetence. That's not even mentioning the mountain of reasonable doubt that they spent 5 and a half years to hand on a silver platter to defense. You got them stating in an affidavit they believe the property owner did it. You have transcripts of them interrogating a guy that they released a video for asking for information about and said to use the Abby and libby tipline, saying that he had planned to meet the girls there that day. You have all this and no one is even talking about it cause the court and attorneys mistook all the disfunction as tradition and are hell bent on keeping it going, making a mockery of the system as a whole. He should win an appeal just for his pretrial treatment. But I'm don't think his attorneys are very bright. They concocted some half baked conspiracy about human sacrifices, which if it was a group you would have seen two or more guys in the video. No way in hell a group is down there chilling and sends one guy to kidnap 2 15 year-olds. They are blowing a great opportunity to do what the state does to defendants and use their own words against them. I'd be emphasizing the fbi saying they believe Logan did it. As well as him trying to lie and make up an alibi which in their words is what a guilty person does. And the best part for them is the guy is dead and can't come in and sway the jury. Then you have kline, someone in prison for child porn and all their accusations to him. They are blowing a golden opportunity. They have 2 super impeccable alternate suspects who law enforcement said themselves did it and they are going with ghost and goblins. It's truly a who's who for who's most incompetent at their job and I'd put this group up against any group anywhere in the world. Sorry I'm from that state and ashamed.
I will ask you then. I am pretty sure this is a stupid question but did the FBI use the video to measure the guy on the bridge?
sounds like a psyop or something, none of it makes any logical sense and thats also your clue its all bs. why? who knows.
This was a very well out together documentary. Thank you for this.
I never knew that Allen is only 5'4". That is a very, very short man, and it would be the first thing that witnesses would notice. Yet none of the witnesses mentioned that they saw a very short man. That's extraordinary.
And LE treats RA as if he’s King Kong in his court appearances; chains, a leash, all the accessories that imply he’s a monster.
He is a very small man.
Allen being so short might be the biggest blessing of his life. The defence have mentioned about getting the infamous 'bridge guy' footage analysed and it coming back strongly in their favor.
3 out of the 4 witness’ were kids and the one adult was driving down the road when they saw the “muddy and bloody” guy. From a kids perspective they might not have really noticed he was short idk. It’s definitely strange. Moreover I’m really confused how the bridge guy video hasn’t been analyzed to determine his height. If bridge guy is 5’4 - 5’6 would match RA, if not, then I think that would be a big piece of evidence for the defense.
No way was that guy on the bridge 5’4 .
@@zachrhoads2396 I'm 5'4 and my daughter was taller than me when she was a teenager. She always made fun of it lol
Not having this trial televised is a big mistake. Already looks sketch
Yesss!!!!
I have read the documents of this case and this judge is something "special" that's for sure. You know, the judge that signed the search warrant for Richard's house just resigned?
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@@Indy69vette what does that matter? They hacked Kegan kline devices THEN got a search warrant knowing what they were going to find. His attorney must really be worthless cause it's clear as day he has a legitimate case of illegal search and seizure. I know there's always work arounds to the constitution but they aren't even trying anymore. They just blatantly violate your rights and your only hope is that your lawyer will care enough to file an appeal to an appellate court and they will care enough to look at the case and care enough about the actual person's rights to overturn something. Don't get me wrong I'm not defending klines actions only his rights which were clearly violated. If they make that the norm, to be able to hack into anyone's devices cause they are on someone's friends list who were apart of an entirely separate case and look for any illegal activity and if found get a warrant for it then start an entirely different criminal case that quite frankly is a huge violation of privacy and rights. How many of these scumbags in law enforcement hack their wife's or girlfriends phones or whoever they want to spy on for personal reasons? I just hate that they can do that without a warrant legalor otherwise. We really do need a para police force who's only job and authority is arresting police who violate people's rights or conduct other illegal activities. Having them investigate themselves is a joke.
This is a cover up. I pray somw outside forces get involved
I live about 1 1/2 hour away in Indiana. I constantly get news updates from my local news station about this case. I never really knew what this case was about until I’ve watched this. Those poor, young girls. Their last moments must have been so terrifying. I will forever be thinking about them from now on💔
The fact that investigators took 6yrs. for an arrest in a small town mistakes were made left and right. IMO.
The small town wasn't ready for something this big. The tip line was piling up and the leads were overwhelming a small amount of investigators. Just think of all the people they ruled out. Richard Allen tells a conservation officer about his whereabouts about the time of the murders. This information got misplaced or didn't draw any red flags with the conservation officer. This mistake is why this has taken so long!
@@RyanPeoples-j8rbull. They didn't look at certain people because of ties to the prosecutor.
They had to pin the tail on the donkey, election of new sheriff was in two weeks. They elected the wrong sheriff ( the corrupt one) who is happy to help with the cover up! LE did not do a proper investigation, they hid, lost, erased, lied about evidence from the very start of this case. FACTS!!!
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@@RyanPeoples-j8rbut the only reason it got that big is because they made it that big. Had they done just the bare minimum of due diligence the case would have been solved before the first tip even comes in. They are so unbelievably lucky Allen went to them before they released the photo of him the very next day after the bodies were found or this case would never have been solved. How you don't clear him before running to the media is beyond any rational comprehension. He's telling them he was on the bridge at the time of the abduction because he thinks it's OK to tell them that because he didnt realize libby recorded him. So as far as he knew they had no clue where the abduction had taken place. I mean come tf on. When he came to them there was no 20,000 tips and he was somewhere in the middle. There were next to no tips and a very short list of the people who came to them claiming to have been there that day. I truly truly do belive they were more worried about getting in front of cameras than solving the case. They knew it was going to be a national story and Carter the clown and his circus came and crapped on everything. I remember Carter doing an interview about his first press conference on the case and he said there was discussion on who should do it. It came down to him or carrol county sheriff Tobe Leznby. It was decided that he was a better speaker so the decision was made for him to do the presser. This was what they were discussing when Allen was trying to tell on himself. That case should have never left delphi. They weren't overwhelmed by tips then. They were overwhelmed with their own vanity knowing that they were about to be known all over the country. I'm just picturing Allen having just went and told law enforcement he was on the bridge that day and basically by the time he gets home his picture is plastered all over everywhere. He had to have thought they were playing mind games with him. Especially when Libbys aunt comes in and has him print her memorial pictures. He had to start thinking he was living in an alternative reality or dreaming. Nope just the most incompetent investigation perhaps in the history of man afforded him 5 and a half years of freedom.
Hearing their friend say she didn't know what foul play was reminds me of just how innocent and young these girls were 😢
I just find it very weird that Allen lived in this town for years. It was a tiny town and Allen was well known there. Worked at the pharmacy hung out at the pub and pool hall. Everyone saw the bridge guy video, heard his voice, saw the drawings, they were hanging in literally every single store, on the news, on the cover of newspapers añd NOT ONE single person said "hey thats Richard Allen" ? Cmon somebody would know if that was Allen from the video, voice recording and sketches
Sketches didn't look like him. Video was worthless in making positive id. Killers voice was muffled and they were in an excited state which can change a person's voice. Also the public wasn't aware Allen came forward and said he was on the bridge at the time of the abduction. That would be law enforcement. So I don't blame the town whatsoever
I blame law enforcement 100%. They missed ruining the case by mere hours by running to the media with the picture. They shouldn't have went to the media until they thoroughly investigated everyone they knew was at the trail. How the hell Allen wasn't arrested shortly after he came forward is mind boggling. He obviously didn't know they had the video of him so they could have easily painted him in a corner. Yet Carter and his circus came to town and setup his tents, started putting on his clown makeup and made a absolute mockery of this case. Their friend in this very video said she wouldn't have thought it would have been him. It's just a travesty how inept and incompetent law enforcement was. They were way more concerned about getting in front of as many cameras as they could to tell everyone they can't tell anyone anything. Their carelessness allowed Allen to develop film for Libby memorial service. Unbelievable
Unless they were too naive.
@bradsanders407 Hardly any information was released about the investigation so I believe it's not fair to judge their work
this! like i know someone out there was like that looks like my neighbor, or my husband Richard but then they just said Nah, hes a nice guy in their head and forgot all about it.
I think mabe the fact he's been so quiet may say alot. I've learned that if your really incarcerated wrongfully...your not happy about it, I'd I for one have never been a good little inmate so, idk. It's a tough case. I'm from Indiana myself and I can assure you the police work on the "good old boys" boys attitude. I can see them doing something shifty to close the case
I feel the police, the prosecutor and Judge Gull mishandled this. These two children deserve better. This trial should be televised for the sake of transparency.
Amen!!🙏
Prosecutors tend to mishandle things. Mainly because they know that there is no real oversight and that any monumental mistakes (or intentional misconduct) will not bring any consequences. They have far too much unchecked power
They did this in order to protect their case and ensure they would have a conviction.
@@Billboswagginsjr Ya. A lot of info has come out which proves how badly they botched this, and they want to try to keep as much hidden as possible. Still wild to me how they're hinging so much on the unspent round, when the science behind it is not precise enough to rely on. And how it wasn't found until after they had released the crime scene and re-secured it over a day later.
@@melissacampbell9214 I still believe there was a huge cover up. Don't know what was going on but I know they were all up to something. It's very peculiar the judge hit everyone and then the talk of the Prison guards and cult.I mean how much stuff is there in this story And how many people were involved?Supposing the guy that made them go down.The hill had a group waiting at the bottom of the hill for them.I do not know after all this time.I still don't know what to think
My law professor in college asked the class "Is it better to have a justice system that results in more guilty people roaming the streets or more innocent people sitting in jail?" . If they have the wrong guy, I feel for him and his family. Hopefully there will be more clarity once the trial starts.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
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Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
not only may an innocent sit in jail, but imagine the treatment someone accused of this kind of crime gets!
the possibility of innocence is not considered by other inmates, they only look at the charges... even now before any conviction they consider him guilty, and also the guards! if he is convicted he will have to spend that time in solitary or constantly be under fear of being attacked.
even in protective custody he will be in danger, the only people he can socialize with are the worst of the worst offenders in there.
every time he eats a meal he will wonder what is in it...
if he gets convicted and is innocent, it will be a tragedy for him!
i hope the jury gets it right!
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Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
If someone innocent ends in jail, then the guilty one is in the streets anyway. The right thing is to not mess-up the investigations.
The “family” knows that the State’s timeline is wrong. Yet they remain silently while an innocent man sits in prison. You heard it here, so don’t act surprised when the truth comes out and the actual murderers are arrested.
Eyeroll
Hes not innocent anymore
The time-lines match his orginal statement back in 2017. He only tried to change it after he was caught. The orginal matches most of the witnesses also. Not to mention he was literally wearing the same clothes b.g. was wearing that day. He admitted that himself.
@ The States timeline is impossible. Anyone who examines it in detail will conclude the same. According to the State, RA and the girls had not even crossed the creek yet at 2:25 according to the States own digital forensics expert. Since the girls would’ve had to cross the creek alive. Consider the phone was under Abby and didn’t move after 2:32. But there was other evidence collected that was not used at this mock trial ….and it is very damning, so I will no longer entertain the fairytale story that the Corrupt State of Indiana used to falsely convict Richard Allen.
@@oronasundial WAYYYYY ahead of ya. This was also my opinion when I was brand new to the case!!!!
What a great friend to have. Keeping their memories alive, saying wonderful things about them. Be blessed.
I lost my best friend when we were 15 years old. A drunk driver ran her over and murdered her. Very few days go by when I don’t think of her. I’m 50 years old at the end of this month. Sonia West. She was funny, and shy, and she was kind. 🙏🏽🌹
@@pommiebears I’m sorry to hear that. Hugs
Thank you so so much ❤️ people like you make this possible for me to process
UA-cam won't allow me to give my opinion of the police and especially the prosecutor in this case. It's not at all favorable. I have never for a moment believed that Mr. Allen is guilty. We'll see if the trial proves me wrong.
Imo something highly corrupt going on. Flora fire house owner has connections to Libby’s grandma few days before fire. Multiple people in fire dept and prosecutors stepping down from job after years of service etc. imo there’s a lot of shady stuff going on waiting for someone to piece it together
Why ? Also why did he confess ? What's the point?
@@Ladybug83me because Odin gaurds worked in prison he was in and threatened him. He confessed because forced to and to protect his family
No.
Held in solitary confinement for 13 months. No contact with his families for seven months. Suffering from Psychosis…drugged to the rafters with Haliperidal. The man doesn’t seem to know what he’s saying half the time in those phone calls.
You don’t put someone in a Maximum security Prison before he’s gone to Trial. You just don’t do it!
Do you know why that was done? It’s was for RAs safety and protection to ensure he’s alive to stand trial and due to horrific acts he’s accused of, he has to be in pc so the inmates don’t kill him. Inmates don’t take kindly to those who hurt children. Also, such a high profile case.
@QueenB-w4d If that's not bad enough they move him to a maximum security prison before trial. It's very scary
They can still hold him in segregation in a jail @@BrandyinIndy
They probably did it to threaten his family and get him to confess..
They did it for his safety.
Watching from Australia. I even got the missing news update over here and since then have been heartbroken and following this. My prayers and love to the families❤
Me to 😢
Me from France , love to the families...
I’m from England. Not knowing must be agonising for their families & loved-ones. I hope that they know that so many people are thinking of them & keep their girls in our hearts. 😢
@@TheOriginalFoxtrotCharlie I’m from Australia as well. I’ve been following this case from the beginning. It’s dreadfully sad and I feel for the families. I think they have the right man.
@@theresadavis5518they've released the cod
One of the most fascinating crime cases ever. That bridge gives me the absolute creeps - really the eeriest feeling. If ever there was a setting for a murder, it is that bridge, the forest and the river. Watching from South Africa.
Completely agreed
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
No it's not. Nothing fascinating about it.
Someone from South Africa, who's into this case, with the same name as my daughter. Hi Amanda. I call my angel Mandy.
@@nemonucliosisthen why was this video made genius?
This feels like the prosecution and judge are trying to placate the public and hang SOMEONE.
No they just aren’t letting in a bullshit theory of fairy tale creatures like Odin stick man builders!!
Oh or the felon x cop from Rushville who couldn’t testify to the Odin bullshit because he is incarcerated right now for falsifying cps documents and forgery of cps documents ………. So….. I mean he is real reliable honest witness!!!!
I still haven't heard/seen any real evidence to convince me that Richard Allen is guilty of anything. The police investigation and trial are a freakin clown show.
Those two young girls, Abby & Libby, deserve better than this.
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Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
@@udhehfhehcuw9169They found the bullet days after the crime scene had been “re-secured”. This isn’t something made up by the defense, it comes from the police’s own discovery that was handed over. There was no chain of custody for that bullet. Law enforcement screwed up this investigation from day one.
@@udhehfhehcuw9169 No it's not evidence. There are dozens of expert gunsmiths that will prove it to be junk science, especially since the round was not fired.
@@udhehfhehcuw9169 As far as I remember he confessed that he shot them, when actually the killer used a knife...
@@udhehfhehcuw9169 Of course it was planted there! The crime scene was completely unsecured. And if it wasn’t planted and RA is the guy, he will probably be found not guilty or get released on appeal because there was no chain of custody for that bullet! Law enforcement was an absolute joke for how many years??? They’ve let those poor girls down horribly. The cops will never arrest someone else after Richard Allen gets off.
The injustice by the cops, judge and prosecutors is horrendous. The fact that all of these people have lied, hid evidence or for the judge who refused to step away after unjustly taking his attorneys away to me proves they don’t have the right person and something nefarious is happening.
Imagine if RA was your dad, grandpa, brother, uncle, spouse, friend……. Also why are the families not outraged on how they have handled this investigation & how they are ensuring RA be exonerated in appeals by the treatment. If I was the family, I would be demanding he has a fair trial so the truth comes out.
I have asked this question to hundreds of people on youtube and noone will answer it. My question is "Who confesses to one or more people but then doesn't change their plea?" -it...makes....no sense. ????????
@@Emeraldcity70 exactly who goes six years without telling anybody and now all of a sudden tells 30 people lol
Didn’t his defence let something terrible happen
@@kazrutch463 no
@@Emeraldcity70 IMO, somebody whose attorneys tell him to wait until there will be a benefit to him to change his plea would not change it. Most defendants that are set to go to trial take a plea deal, but they are offered the deal first. We don't know if the prosecution is offering one here or if they did long ago and that ship has sailed.
The biggest thing that bothers me is how different the two sketches are. Also, how can this guy go so long, w the sketch in the store, he worked at, and supposedly, not one person said anything after all these years? I thought he was guilty at first, but now I'm not too sure
Every phone call is recorded in prison and in jails if dude told his wife he did it that's kinda case closed. The prosecution will have to show the recording at trial I'm assuming. Innocent people don't confess to their wives when they think they are having a private conversation.
They have a bullet that cycled through his gun at the scene of the crime, it has been matched.
He admits to being at the crime scene at the time they were murdered
He admits to wearing the same clothes as the man Libby recorded. He already admitted to being there so it's him on video. Libby obviously took that video because she felt unsafe.
He admitted he did the crime over 60 times to his own wife and family.
He obviously has psychological issues; because anyone who kills two random children is probably insane. He's probably had psych issues for a long time, it's probably *why* he did the crime. So I do not think him being crazy excludes him from being guilty.
@@bruderschweigen6889 nobody thinks they are having a private conversation on a jail phone! As a matter of fact... their is a recorded message before your call is connected INFORMING the caller that ALL calls are recorded.
@@pandamandimax He also said he stabbed the young girls... they weren't stabbed.
The pictures with his wife showing his face down with a hat, longer hair and beer belly and his right hand in his pocket like he was on the bridge definitely looks like Richard Allen.
Finally something going for him. Regardless if he did, or didn’t do it, that judge not recusing herself has already opened this fiasco up to appeal after appeal. They might as well skip the trial and go straight to appeals. So unfair to Abby and Libby and their families. This has been a cluster f*ck from the get go. At this point, listening to the prosecution and that ridiculous judge Gull, absolutely settled me on the side of the defence. What an utter farce! Those girls basically provided the best evidence ever and the police f*cked it up. Big time. And that Gull woman - holding on for dear life to get her 5 mins of fame on the backs of two murdered girls - is disgusting.
I think you're right except for the evidence being strong. The original PD dropped the ball too. They didn't even take the branches that covered the girls to check for DNA. They didn't take the tree that had markings drawn. They didn't find the bullet initially. They didn't keep notes or recordings from the original interviews. They messed this up from Day 1. Whoever did this will likely never truly pay.
I couldn’t have said it any better!! Thank you.
The judge, Honorable Judge Gull, respectively, is doing a good job. She is a professional and rules her court as such. She truly is watching out for RA’s well-being. If it were up to me I’d release him into general population in the county jail. I’d make him eat in the lunch area, shower, share a cell, work duties, and be in the rec yard with the other prisoners. Since the same mental health services aren’t available as in prison, he would not receive any. I would treat him as any other prisoner awaiting trial. IMO he should not be receiving any special circumstances and he for sure would not be in solitary confinement. He was investigated, arrested, and is awaiting trial for the murder and kidnapping of two innocent young girls. He has no alibi nor proclaimed innocence. In the eyes of the law, yes, he is considered innocent until proven guilty. That’s why I’d treat him like all the other prisoners. I would not protect him. I’d let him figure out life on the inside on his own. The focus of this case is so off track. It’s not about RA and I wish people would stop making it about him. It’s about justice for Abigail Williams and Liberty German. The outcome is near.
Why would she recuse herself if the Indiana Supreme Court unanimously decided that she's fit for the job?
@@rowingnowWhereurbreadsbuttered Integrity. Apparently she has none.
At this stage, this is a highly questionable case. The Judges, Attorneys and Police have done an injustice. There are too many very normal questionable actions by all involved.
LETS LET THE JURY DECIDE!
@@RyanPeoples-j8r You are right but only when ALL THE INFORMATION is allowed at trial, otherwise the trial is unfair.
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
The injustice is the daily lies the defense has put out, circumventing the gag order, in an attempt to sway public opinion and taint a jury pool..The Prosecution has been completely silent on the evidence details, abiding with the Gag Order..They've added two separate murder charges so they are extremely confident.
When the trial starts, then I believe you'll understand.
@ccccarriemchardy9216 information deemed previously irrelevant is non admissible by Indiana Law..The Judge said that yesterday in her response. The information you speak of was deemed irrelevant years ago.
"Journalism, it's time for you guys to start being journalists." Bravo, well said, Sir. 👏
I've been following this case since the day they released the photo of Bridge Guy. I really hope they have the right suspect.. I, like many others, have my doubts.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
You are joking, he looks just like the bridge guy, and he admitted to his wife two times. Even states he did it because one girls mom was dating someone outside thoer race. It tracks 100%.
@@maddieman5921he way too short
@maddieman5921 he looks just like Bridge Guy because he is Bridge Guy. He admitted to being on the bridge, he owns the same blue jacket, has the same build. Not really sure how anybody can doubt that it's him.
@@kdizzle901there's videos of him that his wife took and he's wearing the exact same blue jacket.
Can the forensic experts not calculate the height of the guy in the video and determine whether he is 5'4" or not?
Depends on I they are paid by the state or defense
He's 5'7 on his booking photo.
@@oronasundial Ah....you mean the old "make the evidence fit the suspect" routine? I guess they are following that, already.
@@oronasundial no he’s 5’4 lol
@@BenPat88 sure looks like it. But 5'7 isn't tall either
How this judge is still on this case is mind boggling
Justice for Libby and Abby is not served if the wrong person is in prison. The prosecutor is playing silly buggers and the judge is not being neutral.
On the contrary, justice is served, if authorities have the right suspect in custody. Simply stating that authorities don't have the right suspect, isn't justification for Richard Allen's innocence in this case. There's some rock solid evidence against Richard Allen. If you want to take the moral high ground and say, "they have the wrong person," then evidence should be made to support your accusations. If you can't, then we can place you in the "I just say stupid stuff, just to get hits" section of this investigation. Believe me, there's plenty of these people spanning the internet today.
No one knows if he’s truly guilty until the trial. But IF he turns out to be innocent, I hope he sues up the wazoo.
Even if he’s found guilty. He will win a right to appeal it and possibly overturn it. They are holding him in prison not a jail. Like he’s already guilty. Sorry but you have to follow all the rules state of Indiana. Tsk tsk.
@Lori-54 The defense isn't even saying where the phone that he was glued to was from noon til 4 that day. He didn't show up in the geofencing that started at 12:41 pm and that makes no sense. This man is guilty of making himself look guilty. There's no money to be made in that.
you make it sound like you belief that a trial or court or jury actually figures out who is guilty with perfect accuracy
@@sheltiemomstefanie2564i miss my sheltie
Anyone who isn't a conspiretard or a moron knows right now that he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
What a joke our judicial system has become
What it's always been
34 counts of convicted felon is running for the president right now. What’s surprising about our system?
@@hoppercar what it has become really? So good old boys running police departments back in the day that allowed hate crimes that’s better? Look at statistics from back in the day till now.. please join the police department and make it better since you know best.
MP says police told him phone pinged 5hrs ago now its dead...but now we public know it pinged again at 4:33 am so who turned it back on
I've wondered!!! if they got fingerprints off that phone that did not belong to either girl...!?!
@Mr6wolfdog remember the rumours years ago that LE had a partial finger print. Or touch DNA don't know if true though
We know it did? Also it very well could have been out of service and briefly connected at 430
I read your post but am confused a bit. Can you explain what you meant.
@carter_1 google the update on this case geofence data on cell phone at the crime scene has been released as well as phone ping data about Libby's phone the night girls went missing
Abby and Libby's friend said something odd. She saw the SnapChat photo of Abby and immediately knew something was wrong. What? Why?
I wondered that as well.
Same. Almost like she was wondering if the pic was missing something or possibly staged?
It is a creepy ass looking bridge in the middle of no where that's why
Whoa, you may have revealed the true murderer!
Probably because they’re friends and know what sort of snaps each other Normally share
The only pharmacy in town and mike and becky dont know Richard Allen?...the guy that processed your funeral photos...free of charge.!? Its a small town where "everyone knows everyone" ... Very strange.?
Processing the photos "free of charge"...is a HUGE red flag. IMO
"GUILT".
@@suewalker8586 in the tregedy someone could try to be little compassionate?
@@suewalker8586no it’s not! I give free floral arrangements for funerals cuz people have enough to worry about 🤦🏾♀️with your logic I killed 20 people?
@@suewalker8586Ok 😂 printing photos/flyers free of charge for the families of missing persons is practically standard protocol now. It’s been a common practice for businesses who show their support for years now. Hardly a red flag 😅😅😅
I hope the trial reveals the truth. I think the case as it is now (in view of the public) raises a lot of reasonable doubt- especially with the Delphi authorities incompetence of handling evidence.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
The last motion from the prosecutor wants to basically limit any defense they can present. And the prosecution is asking the judge to grant it without a hearing. If she approves that, very possible, they will railroad him.
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This case will definitely be appealed. Gull has all but guaranteed RA will be found guilty, railroaded. They never thought he'd make it this far.
@@TxfreeandlovenitWill he be alive for that? Because he is deteriorating quickly, physically and mentally. Without taking in consideration that prison will be even worst than the conditions he has now, after the conviction. I he is not guilty, they already ruined this man’s life.
This man needs to have his day in court, I am very concerned that he is a scape goat.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
That’s why it’s always important for someone to have a defense attorney, this is a great example of it. This case is crazy
Yes
For who??
But why would he confess to his wife over the phone? Confessing to police out of coercion maybe but to his own wife? Are we buying that the prison guards also happen to be in this cult and threatened him into confessing to his wife?
I first moved to Delphi in 2001 I was 8 years old , I lived there from 2001 to 2012 , went to elm. school, 2nd grade to 5th into middle school 6th through 8th grade then moved before highschool, now im 31 and I’m only 10 minutes from Delphi and I still go to Delphi till this day .. like the one girl said in the beginning..Delphi is such a small town .. no one would have ever thought this would happen to such a small town .
This. I also keep seeing all the conspiracy nuts going on about corruption in Delphi and how the town deserves to be a ghost town after all this. Like no... My wife and in laws are from Delphi. I'm there all the time and it's a cute little town with kind people and a rich history. They don't deserve all this attention. My wife knew the girls.
I think they have the wrong guy. That judge needs to recuse herself. She's very obviously biased.
Why do you think she is biased?
@@Salix_nigra Omg. Have you not been paying attention?
She's not just biased, she's lazy. She hasn't even read any of the filings by the defense. She just denies them. When they request a Franks hearing she denies. She's too lazy to do her job. She doesn't even give reasons for her denial just deny.
This is exactly why Baldwin and Rozzi were reinstated. The Supremes knew she hadn't done her job. They also know this whole case is headed for appeal.
Your wrong
If hes the wrong guy, why didnt he see "Bridge guy"?
If Richard Allen turns out to be guilty someone needs to be held accountable for his statement going unnoticed for 5 years.
Again, IF Richard is guilty that mistake allowed a child murderer to walk among us unchecked for years. Not to mention the millions of our tax dollars wasted on dead ends.
He admitted to it in a recorded call to his wife. He did it.
@@marvinhunt8276 oh you mean during the same time period he was eating his own poop? The same time he was having a psychotic episode according to his prison doctor?
It’s possible he did it. It’s also possible he didn’t.
@@tizza963 He admitted to kiIIing these girls 60 times *with details* even more if you were to count the times he said he did it without adding any details. How do you know exact details of the murders if you weren't the one to commit them? The guy is guilty! Everything they have will come out in the trial.
@@LifesAPeach2Me there defence says those details aren’t true. It’s all up in the air. We won’t know till the trial.
@@tizza963 That would be odd to say that someone confessed to murder that many times if they didn't have proof of it. If it was a lie, I'm sure they would have said a much lower believable number. And yes, everything will come out in the trial.
Cynth….. What a beautiful voice you have. What a beautiful friend you are, still, to those girls.
You are very strong and you are amazing, I hope you know that❤️
To all children taken too soon by crimes. We do not forget😢❤
It really doesn't make much sense that a person that worked a job as in CVS Pharmacy where a couple of hundred people a day could have possibly seen him doesn't make a connection for six years just boggles my mind. It just seems a connection should have been made sooner.
Something is rotten in Delphi. The fact that the judge was taken off the case. The fact that the police that had access to the pictures and took pictures of it screams volumes to me that they know this man is innocent and they're trying to put it out there. The judge was taken off the case and this piece of crap was put😂😂 in his place is ridiculous. And then took his defense counsel off and put somebody else on is ridiculous thank God that he got these attorneys back. And what they're calling a confession is nothing more than a couple of statements he made to his wife. It's ridiculous. They are railroading this man
The man IS GUILTY. he looks like the bridge guy, had the same clothes he admitted himself BEFORE he knew the picture of him existed, he has a gun with the same markings cartridge, he was on the bridge at the same time. And about that drawing of a suspect - Libby’s grandpa looks like that drawing. Any man with a beard looks like it. Richard allen also looks like it. He also walks similarly.
@@bambinaforever1402 you obviously haven't done a deep dive into the "evidence" or viability of other suspects. Allen was railroaded, guilty or not, they have NOT proven anything! And all the legal bs just makes him look innocent.
I haven't heard any evidence that would convince me of his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt
He confessed several times
If your husband was arrested for this, and you found out that he told cops he was ON THE BRIDGE the day of the incident (and he never said that to you, never mentioned being there) wouldnt you question it? He put himself there, he told a conservation officer before the girls bodies were even found that he was there. Then he just decides to keep quiet about that for 6 years. Isnt that enough to seriously question things?
@@Pozorrogonope, I'd worry I'd be railroaded just like he was/is being. This man is innocent until proven guilty.
Did you know there's evidence of 3 people being in the area of the bodies? Did you know all the recorded interviews of the original suspects are erased? Did you know slick nick the prosecutor has ties to the initial suspects?
There is too much evidence there were 3 possibly 4 people involved who took the girls out of the area to murder them then brought them back. Libby's cell phone pinged at 1 pm (I think) then went dead until 4 am the next day. Too much evidence pointing to someone else.
@@PJTYLER also suspected he was being threatened and tortured
@@PJTYLERNot only was he being tortured and abused but his family was being threatened. At the end of one of his phone calls with his confession before he hangs up he asks is that ok, is my family ok.
Horrible crime. But there is something creepy and loathsome about someone who goes and hangs out in front of a courthouse with a loudspeaker just to scream at the accused before the trial has even started.
I agree.
Agreed. Many people have that ‘guilty until proven innocent’ mindset in this country. Almost want those who do it to experience a false arrest and be treated the same. Very un-American attitude
@@ditttch Most likely because RA has confessed to killing Abby and Libby.
Yeah ....
He's innocent until proven guilty...
They always forget that
Especially in a case like this where there is serious doubt as to whether the accused is actually guilty or not. Im not opposed to heckling killers before their trial when what the public knows shows clear proof of guilt. I think this guy IS guilty but there is a more nuanced and intricate story than "guy takes opportunity to kill girls" and the prosecution has stronger evidence that hasnt been publicly released
Just woke up and THIS was airing.
Well-done! Really, one of the best Delphi shows yet.
My compliments to the person(s) who made the decisions on this show.
I don’t know if Richard Allen is guilty. I don’t believe he will get a fair trial and sometimes innocent people are put in prison. This is all messed up. Rest in peace Libby and Abbey.
This. No one knows enough yet to definitively say guilty or not. What we can say is there is a lot of suspicious behavior by the lawyers and judge and RA deserves a fair trial which he is not getting.
For justice it has to be the right person. I pray for true justice in this case. For Libby and Abby who are at peace and for all those who love them who are still desperately trying to find it.
Totally agree.
And if there is too much reasonable doubt then Allen should go free.
That video though, if it was one of my close relatives I'd immediately know it was him. I wonder what his family think of the bridge man video clip...
As a lifelong Delphi resident and I know all these families fairly well i just want justice for the girls. It has rocked our town to its core but we havent backed down with trying to find the truth. I sure hope they do have the right guy but I have no idea if they do or not.
Abby🕯 & Libby🕯
🥀 🥀
Best Friends Forever...
Until the very end!
Rest in Peace beautiful girls!
Mmbop? 😢
Thank you. They are becoming the world's most loved best friends.
if it was one person who committed this crime, I keep thinking, one of those poor children was the last to die..so did he tie one up, or what? just babies really. Poor little girls. I just think there is more than one person involved. Those poor families..waiting all those years and wondering day and night Heartbreaking..Bless them all!
@@bernimac they are obviously so loved.❤
Craziest case ive ever followed.
So many twists & turns
I've never been so ready for a trail I have so many questions
This isn't reality tv.
@@nemonucliosisvery unfortunate it's kinda turned into that.
I think people over look to innocent little girls lost their lives & there families are forever affected.
I just hope the get this right. I think the defense has created plenty of reasonable doubt
And Bryan Kohberger
@@michaelameyer6294 I don't think there's as many twists and turns with that. I'd say he is guilty and I've watched quite a bit of it as well. There's more damning evidence against him
I remember thinking how weird it was that Eric Williams seemed to almost call them victims at 6:30.
Weird, good catch!
Yes! That was my comment on the advertisement of this special. I watched it live and was not able to rewind it.
Now that I can watch it again, he was starting to say VICTIMS!
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
No doubt! 😬
I’m not dropping my kids off at no bridge nope
Neither did Kelsy German, going by the evidence?
Again, This was a public trail where crazy sh** like this never happened. It's common for kids growing up in rural areas to go outside in areas like these.
My mom said the same stuff I'm not dropping you off at no wooded area.If you want to wonder off and go on your own then your not obeying me and doing things that I told you not to.These days you can't take a nice walk and explore cuz there's a creep or creeps lurking
@@JoeyH-sb3fq One accidental fall from that bridge would've been deadly. Just because trails are public does not mean they are safe. Some parents are way too nonchalant.
Yeah. I’m in my 30s, and my parents still don’t want me walking alone in my town’s local trails. It’s a risk.
I want so so badly for this case to be solved for these precious girls but I want it to be the right person,and I know it’s just not that simple
Regardless if he’s innocent or guilty, this is not how we should be treating detainees.
It’s heartbreaking that almost nobody agrees with this. Our society deems we are innocent until proven guilty. Should innocent people be treated this way?
@ChristinaTodd1970 no what's heartbreaking is what he did to those poor kids you loon
@@ChristinaTodd1970absolutely not
Didn't realise he was that short. Definitely noteworthy.
Is it just me, or would anyone else never have allowed my children to go to that bridge to begin with... looks crazy unsafe
Richard Allen use it for the abduction.
His spiderweb trap.
It is, but they also allowed the girls to be on social media chatting with kid diddlers so they clearly weren't that protective.
I’m with you, I wouldn’t go there as an adult efffff that
@us4damons I have written such a thing myself...it was 60 to 100 ft high..
it had no railings..the old wood under there feet was broken.. And if someone followed them they had no place to run to. They couldn't go back because the person was right behind. Them could have pushed them off. I suppose they thought and then he told them to go down the hill. Oh my God, just thought of it drives me crazy. Well. I may have been a really old-fashioned. Mom, but and I'm not blaming anybody. But I never would have permitted my children on it never
I wouldn’t let my children talk to strangers online let alone attempting to meet on the bridge. Bad parenting for sure
This case really concerns me!!! First, I'm very much pro-police. I have law enforcement family and love/believe in our justice system. However, I'm just not sure they have the right guy. My greatest desire for this case is justice for these 2 beautiful girls and their families!!! RIP Libby and Abbey!!!! ❤️❤️
Usually I am too in a case such as this. As your fam knows all LE are not good ppl. Incompetence for sure & perhaps corruption as well.
I just want the correct person caught and prosecuted, whoever that may be!!!! Justice for these girls and family!!!
They do have the right guy. The problem is there are many of you out there that don't think they do cause of their gross incompetence. Idk about you but when I heard them say the round was inspected by someone with experience in extraction marks, that threw up a huge red flag. Who the hell has experience in that? ISP said the exact same thing about someone with blood pattern recognition experience who got David Camm sent to prison for 13 years for killing his family a crime he didn't commit.
@@bradsanders407 Let’s pray they do. Idw an innocent man in prison or a guilty man walking free.
Both sides have been telling lies. I don’t have confidence in either & I seriously think this judge is making major mistakes.
As a defense attorney, I'm very anti-police. But I can always appreciate an individual who can look at something from multiple angles
Gull must go!
I would just like to say that it is really difficult to judge someone's height from a distance, even if you are just driving by them. You could easily describe someone that is 5 ft 4 in as a little bit taller. You don't really know until you're standing next to someone what their height is.
Guess you've never used a photo editor to measure distance.
@@WyattsVlogoh no you didn't 😳
Everyone thinks that I am at least 5’7 and I am 5’3. I have long legs and I look tall, but I am not so I feel like that man on the bridge was shorter. He looks 5’5 to me.
we need some trustworthy journalists and attorneys observing in the courtroom since there wont be any cameras. Judge Gull is afraid of transparency.
I doubt it's up to the judge. Camera policies are usually laid out in the formal rules of each particular jurisdiction.
@@MisterRlGHT it is absolutely up to the judge. In fact she allowed cameras in the hearing where she was ready to publicly embarrass the defense attys last October. Yet she hasn't allowed them since. See the docket. She has denied media requests ever since.
@@MisterRlGHTit’s up to the judge 100%. I worked as an armed guard in a courtroom and the JUDGE has the final decision for anything and everything that happens in that courtroom. Do a little research before doubting someone 🙄 your username says it all though…
We need a DIFFERENT JUDGE TO TRY THIS CASE
Those little girls should never have been in that area alone. How sad
Isn't It sad though , children should be able to play and walk and explore anywhere and be safe from predators....the only person responsible for what happened is the person who killed them.
😢, This is soooo Wrong. 😠 Just want Justice for Abby and Libby. In the Judge's eyes, It's a Done Case....and RA is already guilty...
Gull just proved herself wrong in booting defense off. She didnt have the authority.
They got THE WRONG MAN… there are several evil men involved! Justice in the name of Jesus for these sweet girls!!!
Idk if Allen is guilty or not but imo there are several people involved so if Allen was involved he didn’t do it alone or he only participated in some aspects of the crime itself
The real killers is or is in with local higher up authorities. That explains this huge mess and missing, fake evidence. This case will most likely never be solved, that was the killers plan from the very beginning. Such a tragic catastrophy... My thoughts are always with the victims & their families.
Wait for ALL the evidence. Let the jury decide.
That's are Justice System 👍
@@RyanPeoples-j8r yeah, the jury is party of that system.
THANK YOU
Nowadays juries are the LEAST
important part of the Justice System .?? The case is decided
by armchair detectives and self
appointed lawyers. Like the Idaho 4 case...
@user-fi5zl1vc1c our not are
The video looks just like him!
Here's what I'm having a difficult time with.
Many decades ago when I was a teen girl, my friends and I spent a fair amount of time in the drugstore - samples, trying on makeup, seeing what's on sale, looking through seasonal, etc.
This is a small town. Even the gal's friend said they knew RA from the CVS. The gal's were alert enough to record the creep that most likely did this (giving presumption of innocence). Yet neither of them said any identifiers regarding RA such as that's the guy from the drugstore, or isn't that RA?
There probably is a lot more on the video than has been released. Hopefully, there is more evidence, if he's the perp.
I personally didn't hang out in drugstores as a teen nor do I now. I'd say these days I go there maybe once every season, if not less than that, and went there much less as a teen. I would have been hard pressed to think of something I'd rather do less than hang out at CVS as a teen. I certainly didn't memorize middle aged men's faces of people who were workers at any store whatsoever when I was 13 or 14 either. Add to that the stress of having a man who's looking like he's following you in a largely wilderness area when no one else seems to be around, and I don't think they'd be in the frame of mind to start recognizing him immediately and also having the presence of mind to refer to him by his full name (if they knew it) while trying to see if they (as middle-schoolers) can talk their way out of a scary perceived threat.
I do agree with you though that with a bit less than 3K people in town and knowing that they should work that town first and then work their way out, because someone in town would be familiar with those trails, I'd be shocked if they didn't know it was RA fairly early on after having the time to scrutinize the men in town. But you can't just arrest someone off of saying we really feel like it's him. The judge would laugh that search warrant request out of their court, and rightfully so. His phone that he said he was using didn't show up in the geofencing *at all,* so there was another strike "not putting him there" until they realized that he said he was glued to his phone that wasn't showing up on the geofencing that happened in 2019 and that was for Feb 13 with a start time of 12:41, when RA in his altered timeline, claimed to have been there at the trails. This defendant's stories are not making sense and I don't stand for that from a double child homicide defendant.
@@rowingnowWhereurbreadsbuttered There are so many twists and turns, it will be interesting to see the evidence presented. That there were so many perps and shady guys identified early on in such a small community is disheartening. We truly don't know what goes on in the minds and lives of others.
Well for one he had his mouth covered with a scarf so without his CVS clothes on its not surprising they wouldn't have recognized him. Also knowing of someone isn't the same as knowing their name. Something I've been trying to figure out is how it was announced they wouldn't have school that day. Was it public knowledge or would you have had to had a kid in school to know or have told you? And where was his daughter at the time?
@@bradsanders407in Indiana when kids are signed up for school the parents/gaurdians sign up for a weather alert system. They put who gets the alerts to their phones on a form. So generally mom or dad or both will have their names on the form along with their phone numbers. They can also list other people as back up to get an alert along with their phone numbers. So say school is canceled due to weather then everyone who has a name and number on form is called and given a recorded alert stating school is either delayed or closed for the day due to the weather. Assuming Becky and Anna probably got the alert if any alert was sent out the day of the crime. If it was a scheduled day off usually schools post that on school calendar given at beginning of the year on paper, calendar is posted on school website, and some schools put reminders displayed on exterior of school building of any closures.
@@rowingnowWhereurbreadsbutteredwhoever the murderer is doesn’t have to be local to find out when the school was going to be closed if it’s scheduled. Even if it’s last minute closed due to weather all the murderer would have to do is go online check the schools website to find closing info or on local news.
“An arrest was made (approx) 24 days before a sheriff’s election.”
And the Failed sheriff Mike Thomas is exactly why this case is getting derailed. He needs to get over losing. Hope he gets charged with witness tampering.
Yeah . . . That’s concerning.
And???
That's a NON SEQUITUR unless you can tie some other additional nefarious evidence to it. You might as well say: "the arrest came on a sunny day, does that have some additional significance?"... Face palm.
Bingo!
That's at the lower end of the mountain of concerning things.
Richard Allen def looks like the guy from the bridge
FBI NEEDS TO INVESTIGATE THIS CASE
Duh they have been.
Where were they whenever Larry Nassar was abusing multiple women on the USA gymnastics team for several years? Oh yeah they love to help traffickers so no they won’t be of any help
They’re corrupt too though
@@marielux7372yea they are
@@jase4270nope they aren't on it, don't spread misinformation. They initially were involved but the FBI is not actively investigating nor have they investigated the people in charge of the case.
The fact that he is sitting in prison before trial is a miscarriage of justice! Looks like they already found him guilty with no trial. I think they interrogated him for hours and hours with no sleep, and threatening his family is why he confessed. That's how false confessions are made. They didn't have clear evidence of his guilt and they were probably under pressure to solve the case. How sad for Libby and Abby's family and friends! I was really hoping they found the killer, but now I have doubts.
I believe they withheld his medication to make him crack. It all stinks to high heaven!
He confessed he shot them in the back… not really what happened, eh…
Prison guard with a Odin face tattoo, after he’s instructed to not wear a patch on his uniform??? Sounds like a devout Odinist to me.
That is how everyone is treated in the legal system when you are accused of a murder. You are incarcerated until trial.
@@PattiSchara-sc3cs yes in the county jail, not prison!
I am a born and raised citizen of Carol County. I do not know Richard Alan personally, but I have followed this case since day one considering I am very close to one of the family members this case makes no sense. I truly pray that the families finally received the truth That Richard Alan going on trial and October 2024since his trial date was moved back there are a lot of discrepancies I truly hope justice can prevail
Why did Abby's friend "immediately know something was wrong" when she saw the 2:09 Snapchat pic? I don't understand why that pic would make her suspect anything. Odd comment to make without explanation.
The State of Indiana vs Richard Allen
Let's get this in front of a jury.
Because Abby never crossed the bridge before. The Snapchat photo of Abby is believed to be photoshopped to establish a false timeline of the murders. That’s just a small nugget of information out there.
Yeah I felt the same. The picture doesn't give a weird vibe at all, she could have elaborated on why she felt like that (as a best friend she might see more than is on that pic)
Later in video she says she knew A&L had been on some social media sites and met people online. So when she saw Snapchat (as the 13yr old she was) she may have thought they were likely meeting someone. That may have been the lead that landed LE on the other child sexual predator who the girls communicated with but is not the killer. Also don’t forget these news interviews are edited and often leave out context clues.
I’ve always guessed she was going to meet some boy and started filming when she realized she had been catfished. It was the day before Valentine’s Day and she even brought a friend to be safe.
The fact that Richard wanted this trial televised tells me he's innocent. He clearly wants the world to see the evidence. Why would a murderer want the world to see the evidence for themselves?
Because murderers tend to be narcissists who can’t help but desire the attention
I also wonder why the wife hasn’t filed divorce and feels he’s innocent.
@@borndreamer2735 has he been medically diagnosed as a psychopath?
@@borndreamer2735 you can call anyone anything you want however doesn’t make it so. In terms of any mental issues yes he would have needed to be diagnosed properly.
@@borndreamer2735 I don’t feed in to the trolling. You should build people up not down. I’ll pray for you.
Love the honor her friend shared her love
God, i can't stand that hecklers voice. Almost made me not watch the video, but i forward it.
This is a horrible case. I'd live to see justice for Abby and Libby and that means a fair trial for the suspects. Right now it doesn't seem to be Richard Allen...
It appears to be more vengeance that this county is after, not justice.
I am from indiana. John Razumich is a criminal defense lawyer who is following this case. His youtube channel is John Razumich. A lot of information is repetitive but he has a few details that no one else has covered. I don't think Richard Allen did it.
Look at all the facts again. I think you will change your mind.
@@RyanPeoples-j8r The fact that he was in the vincinity. The fact that he confessed in jail to his wife and mother while jailers who wore Odism patches on their uniforms listened to his jail phone calls.The fact they found 1 bullet buried between the girls that could have come from a gun he owns? They can't say for certain but a possibility.
Now from the defense. Pagan rituals happen by water sources. The creek/river was nearby. Pagan rituals primarily use knives to kill. Both were killed by a knife. NO DNA FROM RICHARD ALLEN was found on or near these girls. . According to the FBI, it would take 92-96 individual actions in a 2 hour window to kill and lay these girls' bodies in the way they were found. Their conclusion was it had to be more than 1 person. NO.DNA FROM RICHARD ALLEN WAS FOUND ON OR NEAR THESE GIRLS. One of these girls was dating a son who's father was an Odonist. Another group in a different county wanted to join this group. When the police contacted this group, they found on a Facebook page from one of these individuals the exact formation of how these girls was found. This knowledge was only known to the police. This individual who's Facebook page they found this info on confessed to his sister and someone else he was there when the girls were killed. He asked the police when interrogated would they find his DNA if he spat on one of them. The picture of the younger suspect was the first one the police had and they tried to persuade the lady who gave it to them to change her mind to fit more of the 2nd picture. She didn't change her vision of the suspect. Finally, there were 2 investigations, one from the 1 individual who the state charged was Richard Allen and the 2nd was from pagan rituals which turned out to be Odinism. During the early investigation of this case on the paganism side the investigators supposedly set up DVR'S to record the conversation of individuals to keep as evidence for the case. Every one of these conversations were recorded over multiple times. The police didn't even keep a log of who they talked to and never told the defense. They found out accidentally.
Just as FYI....Everytime the defense has requested money for Richard Allen, they have been denied yet the lead prosecutor, lead investigator and someone else are giving themselves raises because they are working on this case. Now tell me why the state says it was him? I want Justice for these girls. I want the man/men who did these evil acts to meet their makers in jail but I want it to be the right ones and I can't say Richard Allen is the one.
@@deannadempsey9269What modern pagan rituals use killing?
I totally and completely agree!
@ivyrose779 I honestly don't know. I don't belong to any of them. The FBI, in their conclusion, stated this was a pagan sacrifice killing with another death. They said from experts in the field and knowledge base that pagan killings happen near water. Their bodies were found near the creek. They use knives instead of guns to kill. The weapon was a knife to their carotid artery. Their investigation stated that 92-96 individual steps were needed from the moment they saw the video to the time of their approximate death. That is a 2 hr time frame. You would think someone had to touch the bodies to place them in that position with the wood framing them. THEY DID NOT FIND RA DNA NOR FOOTPRINTS THAT MATCHED RA. However, in their investigation, his DA talked to the lead investigator and how they found the exact depiction on a guy's Facebook page of how the girls were depicted shortly after. No one except the police had that info. They talked to this individual, and he asked them if they would find his DNA after spitting on one of them. Finally, this guy confessed to his sister and someone else he and others were the ones who killed these 2 girls, but RA was not one of them. One of the girls was dating the son of an Odonist, and this guy and his friends wanted to join his sect of the organization. When these murders first occurred, the first eye witnessed saw a man on the bridge who was young and described him to the police. Both of them were on the bridge before she turned away to go back to her car. According to her, the police wanted her to change the description of who she saw, but she refused to change it. The DA did not find out about this until late last year that the police set up multiple dvr's to record interviews with those in the pagan side of the investigation, but these interviews were recorded over multiple times with no log of knowing who was interviewed and by whom.
Lastly, the only time this judge has and is going to allow cameras in the courtroom was when she got the DA's removed from this case. Every motion from the DA has been denied. They requested money for experts to go against the PA exports. She denied it. It is why they were able to raise at least $25000 in a GoFundMe type campaign, but the lead PA, the lead investigator, and someone else are getting raises for their work on this case. One final note, the composite sketch of the older gentleman was everywhere in Delphi. It was in every business window, including the CVS that RA worked at, and no one made the
conection?
Now, onto the States case. Of course, we don't know everything they have, but what they have said was he admitted he was on the bridge during the time of their disappearance and deaths. "He" confessed to killing them during phone conversations to his wife and mother after being locked up in prison after being abused by guards who wear Odinism patches on their uniforms. Finally, the bullet that was found 2 inches into the ground between the girls could have come from a gun he owned. They can not confirm that it came from that gun, but there weren't enough etchings on the bullet to confirm it came from his gun, but it could have. If that is the strongest evidence the state has, these 2 experienced DA are going to rip the States case apart. I'm going to ask John if he is going to the trial and if so, what day. I want to be there also.
"True justice would be that there would be no need for justice at all" well said Cynth ❤ what a great best friend ❤
I walk my dogs down that trail occasionally. They have crosses and some things like that for those girls at the bridge. It’s an incredibly beautiful area, but you get an eerie feeling knowing what happened there.
He is WAY too short for it NOT to be mentioned!
It actually was mentioned. If you take a defense attorneys word for it there would never be a conviction ever.
@@bradsanders407 Ok here is your chance to prove that you know it all like you think you do. Show the document that states what you claim. Prove what you say blabbermouth.
@@dennismckean8773 first there will be no document saying anything like that second how are they supposed to show you a document?🤷
@@Creamy-1988 In fact, the only mention of height is Bre Wilbur, who was 5’7 in 2017. She said she came up to the man’s shoulders. Meaning, the man she saw was considerably taller than her.
It was mentioned lol
I can’t find my previous comment but look up James Brian Chadwell, he is from the next town over. He is identical to the sketch, has a tattoo that looks identical to one of the Delphi girls on his arm, he was caught raping & strangling a 9 year old girl mid act & even his brother thinks he’s the real killer. I just can’t wrap my head around it being anyone else.
I agree. He looks like the sketch.
A new judge from today‼️
The judge who resigned this week was not the judge on this case anymore, he had recused himself in 11/22. Judge Gull, who was then appointed Special Judge, remains on the case today.
100%
@@barbaramacdonald7753thank you for the correct information.
I had, also, been misinformed about the matter of-the judge.
I honestly don't think Richard Allen commited these murders..
So many of us have this same gut feeling. It’s sad. Praying for true justice.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
@@StarlightSynchronicity Then you and all the other crayon eating NPCs need to watch one of Gray Hughes timelines.
@@nemonucliosis How unsurprising that you are Gray Hughes boot licker. Completely rude.
@@nemonucliosisgo lick gray’s ass
I live near Delphi, Indiana and I actually worked in Delphi for a while. This was all over the news and so crazy! I’m still in shocked this happened.
Watching from London, England.
This case is such a mess but I have faith that the truth and justice will be done. RIP Libby and Abby.
Unfortunately you should not have faith in our legal system as there is little to no justice in our legal system. My niece was held at gun point for 3 days and raped….he got 3 years probation and is currently in jail for doing the same thing to the next girl less than a year later. Except he used a hammer since he can’t have a gun anymore. But sell marijuana or lie about your address to get your kid in school (unless famous) 5 years in jail.
Hello London, it is a mess. But, democracy and justice are messy. They'll sort it out. As our guy Churchill said "Democracy is the worst form of government except for everything else". Poor little girls. ♥ Poor families. They will never get over this.😥
Eric Williams, the guy at 6:27 he says, "Ravines, ditches, trashcans, their phones, any, any signs of vict..of the girls". Was that a interview during the search or after they were found? If it was before they were found, that would strike me as very odd the way he almost said victims.
and that's creepy and weird, yes.
Good catch. I wonder if this could just be Eric assuming the worst or imagining the outcome that people sort of felt was true all along.
I cannot imagine being that age knowing they were in serious trouble & Libby still had the strength & bravery to record their killer. Their families deserve justice.
She didn't record that feeling that way. She was recording AG when the BG showed up. LE isn't going to tell the public everything.
R.I.P. Abby 🩷🙏🏽🩷
This was not meant to be the end of your story. I am so truly sorry.
R.I.P. Libby 💜🙏🏽💜
You also were not meant for this to be the end of your story. Life is so unfair I am so sorry. Rest peacefully in heaven with your best friend. Love and prayers to family and friends. Especially the beautiful best friend left behind!! ❤🙏🏽❤ Stay strong sweetheart you have the world behind you!! 🫶🏽
The judge needs to recuse herself.
And even if she did, you'd find something else to latch on to as to why RA isn't being "treated" right.
@@nemonucliosis Multiple people who are actually involved in the case have said he has been mistreated. Judge Gull has proved herself to be biased. It's about persevering our rights which she has tried to take away multiple times. The Supreme Court ruled against her and that's telling us everything we need to know. So bye bye!
She just proved herself wrong. She had NO authority to boot them.
Prayers to all involved. May the truth come out and justice be served !🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Prayers mean nothing. They'll fade into oblivion until you act upon this gross obscenity of constitutional violations.
I’d like to hear Doug Carter say “down the hill”
That’s a name I haven’t heard before? And I’ve been following this case since it started.
@@Kali-Moe he's the Indiana state police superintendent who does all the press calls on the Delphi case👍
or lezenby
Eh?
OH WOW! Right as I read this he started talking and said, “he is hiding in plain sight”. He was looking down and looks just like the “bridge guy”
There is too many issues with this case. Justice for Abby and Libby includes a fair trial and RA isn’t getting that.