Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - 11 New Archetype Mechanics Breakdown

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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
  • In this video I walk through the 11 new archetypes for Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous in the Dance of Masks DLC.
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    00:00 Magic Deceiver
    06:28 Chelaxian Diva
    10:18 Titan Fighter
    12:26 Living Grimoire
    16:05 Kinetic Sharpshooter
    17:13 Bladebound
    19:03 Drunken Master
    23:04 Sable Company Marine
    25:18 Inciter
    28:25 Bloodseeker
    31:19 Mantis Zealot
    34:59 Full List
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  • @barubary436
    @barubary436 17 днів тому +35

    There are two points that I want to make here. First, it's not just a missed opportunity to not worship Cayden Cailean as a Drunken Master. The real best part would be playing as a mythic Trickster, summoning Beer Elementals, and drinking them to restore Drunken Ki.
    Second, looking at the Chelaxian Diva, I think it's a class specifically designed for Galfrey. Banshee screams, an ability that refences a monologue from a betrayed queen, a haste ability that causes fatigue which undead ignore, and most of all everything taken away is the supportive stuff that usually adds morale bonuses that undead can't use. If they don't patch Galfrey as a diva and Cair as a Ghost Rider, they are just doing it wrong.

    • @joaoteixeira8349
      @joaoteixeira8349 17 днів тому

      yeah triskter, demon and azata are the most apropriate mythic paths for a drunken master.

    • @MisterHanRPG
      @MisterHanRPG 17 днів тому +1

      Thats...actually a really cool idea. Queen Galfrey the undead diva? I'd drink to that. In fact, I can't help but wonder if that might be a class idea for Galfrey if she were to be corrupted by the Devil mythic path. That's essentially a betrayal of her values, at least.

    • @barubary436
      @barubary436 17 днів тому +1

      @@MisterHanRPG I considered that too. There is no confirmation that she would be a playable ally to a Devil yet. Possibly if you were playing Aeon -> Devil and had a romance with her, took her into Threshold as a Diva instead of a Paladin after corrupting her? It seems possible.

    • @MisterHanRPG
      @MisterHanRPG 17 днів тому

      @@barubary436 I would love it if that were the case.

    • @carebear1470
      @carebear1470 15 днів тому

      Apparently they're going to patch it so Drunken Masters can worship Cayden and be a chaotic alignment too.

  • @joaoteixeira8349
    @joaoteixeira8349 17 днів тому +35

    about the drunken master alignment, i believe that's a bug/oversight since it was suposed to be non-lawful, per owlcat own words. and yes, you're right: who would want to play a LAWFUL drunkard who can't even worship the best of all gods?

    • @SuperCosmicSpaceMagnet
      @SuperCosmicSpaceMagnet 17 днів тому +9

      Lawful Drunken Master is a fun concept. "Yeah I'm gonna get completely smashed, but I'm not gonna keep the pub open past their closing time and I'll always make it to the toilet in time."

    • @MisterHanRPG
      @MisterHanRPG 17 днів тому +3

      It's like playing a vegetarian Bloodseeker.

    • @slowpokegarcia6342
      @slowpokegarcia6342 15 днів тому

      Literally the first thought I had. I Literally thought to myself that dm should be the exception to the restrictions

  • @rm2569
    @rm2569 17 днів тому +30

    Really feels like they wanted to make deceiver a whole new class. Also, titan fighter dip could be really good for casters to stack quarterstaff bonuses.
    Also, i love the idea of a Lawful evil/neutra Mantis Zealot basically contracted to murder areelu by the Queen (and once they find out about her ascension plan, divinely mandated to do so) in a party with Greybor, Regill, Lann and maybe Daeran.

    • @SlanderedGaming
      @SlanderedGaming  17 днів тому +5

      Yeah Owlcat really went all out with these new options.

  • @Rhuowave
    @Rhuowave 17 днів тому +10

    Dwarf living grimoire Aeon sounds awesome. Time to settle some grudges

  • @Helthegrim
    @Helthegrim 17 днів тому +33

    I am certainly gonna be adding a Titan Fighter to my list of Mercs to make. Heck, I may even change it to be this going forward for Tabletop myself.

    • @SlanderedGaming
      @SlanderedGaming  17 днів тому +4

      I am thinking about running that myself for a Demon playthrough.

    • @Dragonology99
      @Dragonology99 17 днів тому

      Titan Fighters eating GOOOD

    • @MisterHanRPG
      @MisterHanRPG 17 днів тому +1

      "Ugh, making a Fighter class that's more fun than a spellcaster is tough. Anybody got any ideas?"
      "I have an idea. Anyone remember that Monkey Grip feat from Neverwinter Nights 2? Let's make a class out of it."

    • @acrab6527
      @acrab6527 17 днів тому

      @@MisterHanRPG Can you dual wield halfling sling staves as the ultimate ranged attacker?

    • @MisterHanRPG
      @MisterHanRPG 17 днів тому

      @@acrab6527 I'm not sure, but I'd love to try!

  • @Iceblade269
    @Iceblade269 17 днів тому +15

    I really think the devs should allow us to respec the PCs without mods. There’s just too many options to play with the same Paladin, Rogue, Monk, etc.

    • @MC-yt1uv
      @MC-yt1uv 17 днів тому +3

      At the very least I would like if you could respec them within a few options. Like you could change Seelah to another Paladin archetype. Nenio could be any class that used Intelligence spellcasting. Wenduag could be a fighter, barbarian or ranger. Etc...
      Basically being able to respec them as long as it kept their theme. Though I would personally like if they just allowed anything.

  • @anthonygurskas4850
    @anthonygurskas4850 16 днів тому +11

    Owlcat has heard our complaints and will add chaotic alignments to Drunken Master monk.

  • @jakepietrzak7552
    @jakepietrzak7552 17 днів тому +21

    I think you misunderstood kinetic archer. When you cast a blast with a bow equipped it's always free and adds all the damage from your bow. For example I set air blast to autocast and it shoots by bow and adds the blast damage. The quiver gives you charges that you can spend in place of accepting more burn, so at level 3 if you use it twice, you can spend 6 burn without taking any. For example using the aoe arrow blast three times.

    • @GamesSackBoy
      @GamesSackBoy 17 днів тому +2

      oh damn, that sounds cool actually

    • @sazaat7
      @sazaat7 17 днів тому +1

      The new infusions that add AOE and AC debuffs are also pretty nice. Feels almost like an upgraded Eldritch Archer.

    • @20storiesunder
      @20storiesunder 17 днів тому +4

      Yeah he completely missed the point of the archetype

    • @OtterSeaborne8901
      @OtterSeaborne8901 17 днів тому

      The issue is that losing move-action Gather Power turns off both Kinetic Overcharge and Supercharge, and means if you're ambushed or your quiver runs out you either have to use actual zero-cost blasts or burn a standard action (and a point of actual burn) to get a new quiver. It shifts burn from being something you do in emergencies because you needed to move to being something you're just going to have to take as the day wears on if you use infusions at all. Not to mention the ambush shenanigans you can do with a Gather Power 3 from stealth.
      You're also locked out of Extend Range, and therefore Eruption, Cloud and Deadly Earth. Cloud and DE are kind of terrifyingly powerful, and while you still have Wall, the ability to have multiple control zones, either at different chokepoints or layered, is pretty high-value.
      There's some value (enhancement bonus to blast attack rolls, better crit stats, long range even while moving) but the price is high and the shift in feel won't be to everyone's tastes.

    • @terrakross5376
      @terrakross5376 17 днів тому

      ​@@OtterSeaborne8901 and on the other hand while you do lose that what you also get is a much more group friendly kineticist. Another drawback was always the fact that forms could also hurt teammates. Getting more debuffs and such that you can use along with the sheer power of blasts as an archer means this archetype can fit into more group compositions easier.
      So you lose a bit of power yes, but you also can get a much more powerful archer that overall is both friendlier to kineticist newbies and more usable with the base game companions.

  • @acrab6527
    @acrab6527 17 днів тому +3

    They added some good feats. Dissonant voice: add 1d6 sonic damage to every weapon of anyone affected by your bard songs.
    Also the Diva style feats. A free feint every time you start a song. Free attack against anyone feinted, and CHR to damage if the enemy's flat footed. (which feint makes you)
    So diva might be an acceptable melee bard, even. Or go a casting bard with Harmonic spell. If you cast a spell while a song is on, you get the performance back.

  • @vandal_prime9934
    @vandal_prime9934 17 днів тому +6

    The Titan Fighter makes me wanna play WOTR... :D
    Jeez, when will I have the time for that :))
    Thank you for the detailed videos and for being my main source of Pathfinder content!! Awesome quality and chill vibes ;)
    On what content I would like to see, your top picks for hybrids and 1-point dips for unique and cool combos.
    As a pathfinder expert, I am sure you have plenty of those in mind :P

  • @anthonygurskas4850
    @anthonygurskas4850 17 днів тому +8

    It feels like Drunken Master should have reversed alignment restrictions since the current model allows for a Drunken Master Lich, and while hilarious to imagine, is kind of impossible.

    • @MisterHanRPG
      @MisterHanRPG 17 днів тому +2

      On the plus side, a can of liquid death can take on a whole new meaning!

  • @Julian-cn1ey
    @Julian-cn1ey 17 днів тому +11

    A lot of these new archetypes seem like totally new classes compared to their base counterparts. Stripping 80% of the base class features in exchange for new gameplay loops seems to be the Owlcat MO for a lot of these.

    • @MisterHanRPG
      @MisterHanRPG 17 днів тому +4

      I mean, I'm all for it, I just wonder why, with what crazy powers people can get at high levels, this game bothers with prestige classes. You could totally make base classes out of a lot of those. The only multiclassing I hear people talk about a lot is the occasional dipping. That's my opinion, anyway.

    • @Julian-cn1ey
      @Julian-cn1ey 16 днів тому +2

      @MisterHanRPG the bones of Pathfiner 1e are more than 20 years old at this point. A lot of stuff is antiquated.
      But yea, i like the new archetypes too. They feel really fun, and I welcome Owlcat breaking the RAW and building gameplay based on fun.

    • @MisterHanRPG
      @MisterHanRPG 16 днів тому

      @@Julian-cn1ey Oh, I do too. I've heard people say the magic deceiver could be a class in and of itself, and I'm all for it.

  • @stephenlewis6922
    @stephenlewis6922 17 днів тому +6

    Titan Fighter with a enlarge spell cast on them is my happy place. Cant wait to big bonk!

    • @huntertaylor367
      @huntertaylor367 17 днів тому

      How about titan fighter, and also bloodrager bloodline (snake i think?) that adds more range to melee attacks, THEN enlarge/legendary proportions with 2 reach weapons (fauchard for high crit range?) and add cleaving finish line. Then be able to melee attack with the aoe at least as big as fireball.

  • @PitoDiPaiaGames
    @PitoDiPaiaGames 17 днів тому +1

    I was eagerly waiting for this video.❤

  • @fwcttyli8336
    @fwcttyli8336 17 днів тому

    great overview, I'm very excited for this DLC! Trying to figure out which companions I'll respec into some of these classes

  • @snefff6560
    @snefff6560 17 днів тому +7

    Bloodseeker definitely seems like the go to class/archetype for a lich build, very cool !.

    • @phantomvulpe791
      @phantomvulpe791 17 днів тому +5

      Or in my case a trickster who behaves like Alucard from Hellsing abridged

    • @snefff6560
      @snefff6560 17 днів тому

      I never watched the hellsing anime, but the castlevania anime is straight up in my top 10

    • @nestorgamer9746
      @nestorgamer9746 17 днів тому +1

      @@phantomvulpe791 man this is such a awesome idea and I was just planing a trickster run
      with the drunken master so since thats impossible for now im going to steal your idea

  • @henrychurch6062
    @henrychurch6062 17 днів тому +2

    Magic Deceiver seems really interesting.
    I think it's much more it's own class than it is an Arcanist though.
    I also appreciate that they reigned it all in (my first thought was to just combine something like grease and Magic Missile for a no-save grease)

  • @gaoaibai6243
    @gaoaibai6243 17 днів тому +5

    Yeah Kinetic Sharpshooter is def the best class in the game atm. I agree with the comment section here basically it adds your bow damage (there is a very powerful Heavy Crossbow in a DLC that is very suited for this class) AND all on hit effects from the bow to your kinetic blast. It is just outright SUPERIOR to basic Kineticist no doubts. Ofc Elemental Engine is still gonna do more damage BUT the on hit effects should more than make up for the differences in damage here.
    Also SCM dip would be the go to for most mounted builds now. Being capable of ignoring difficult terrain is just too massive to pass up on a charge build tbh and this just makes Legend builds the premier MP for all mounted builds rn. S+ class for sure.

  • @nemo5335
    @nemo5335 17 днів тому +5

    sable company marine would be an AMAZING dip for a cavalier.

  • @charlesdean2781
    @charlesdean2781 9 днів тому

    Slandered, great to see you stay on point with the great videos.

  • @Mandoolin
    @Mandoolin 17 днів тому +1

    Magic Deceiver, as you mentioned, seems like a fun trickster role playing class. I imagine going for the UMD mythic ranks for the wizard spellbook could allow you to "bypass" the spell level of the class during the end game. Would even make sense with the role playing aspect of magic deceiver for you to suddenly grab a level 10 wizard spellbook. It will be interesting to see how that works with "ways of the deceiver" paths that changes UMD.

  • @ArtyrNc
    @ArtyrNc 17 днів тому

    Thank you very much for this fantastic review!

  • @jhgman7519
    @jhgman7519 17 днів тому +1

    Fantastic video as always, Slander! I love your class breakdowns so much!
    Will we see a short video featuring a reincarnated Judge Dredd as a Living Grimoire, literally hitting fools in the head with the enormous Book of THE LAAAWWW!?

  • @mikkovaittinen3835
    @mikkovaittinen3835 16 днів тому +1

    I just started game as bloodseeker and I took 2 levels of dark lurker with it, just to get finesse and blind fight.
    It has been fun!

  • @Chrupignat
    @Chrupignat 17 днів тому

    Thank you for the great work with mechanics breakdown. Good job as always. Personally most probably I will test Bladebound Magus because I liked seeing it being used by my friend when we played tabletop. Maybe I will also check out Living Grimoire because I find the idea of a learned priest very interesting.

  • @satyrian9840
    @satyrian9840 17 днів тому

    Ooh, very informative. Thank you! Nice watch while my game is patching and I wrangle my mind about what class and mythic path to play this time around..

  • @Kirinboy39
    @Kirinboy39 16 днів тому +1

    Red mantis to Swarm that walk sounds super flavourful

  • @notalefty999
    @notalefty999 17 днів тому +1

    I have been thinking about magic deceiver and it might have more potential than I initially thought. I think the biggest issues are the lack of buffing spells and the much more limited number of spell slots.
    However, the combination effects are fairly powerful, particularly when using combinations that combine powerful single target effects with AOE spells. You can combine chain lightening with phantasmal killer or greater targeted dispels, for example, which is actually on a par with 9th level spells pretty comfortably. Granted, the spell DC is 3 lower, but evocation spells get +4 from gear, and you will usually be able to convert your spells to this school, whilst still retaining the mind effecting tag to get bonuses to mind effecting spells to further boost your DCs.
    I think combining it with azata for zippy magic, favourable magic and ability resets is a really nice combo. All spell slots for the magic deceiver will be reset by heroes never surrender, and with second wind you can also reset your spell replenishment powers over and over again.
    But chain lightening targeting + favourable magic means the enemy has to save with disadvantage twice against any spells you combine it with, which coupled with extra gear that you can use to buff DCs, will give you a very scary pseudo weird which still does hefty damage on a successful save. It will also mean double targeted greater dispels and hefty damage in an AOE.
    And the chain lightening will not be level capped, so spell specialisation, robe of seven sins, ashmaker and so on, your version of chain lightening will be rather powerful even without metamagic, and you can similar combine it with a second uncapped nuke, which will also be doubled up. If you had say, caster level 25, you could cast a spell which does 100d6 in a party friendly AOE, with either lingering damage or a stun effect. With the last azlanti amulet, that would be increased by 200. You could also take a crossblooded dip for a net gain of around 78 damage after accounting for the reduction in caster level.
    But even pure (which would require multiple ascendant elements but also open up elemental barrage), you level 6 nukes are party friendly AOEs averaging 550 on a failed save, which is certainly not bad.
    The option to go devil lategame will give you decent infinitely spammable spells which is another decent option given your limited spell slots, though will mainly shine at rank 10 in inevitable excess when you can spam overwhelming presence and use hells authority to hugely buff your spell damage and/or DCs. I would still prefer azata prior to then.
    On reflection, I think this archetype might be an extremely powerful offensive caster, albeit with significantly fewer spell slots and virtually no buffing capability (unless its from your mythic spellbook). Its certainly not bad, but I think the ability to combine spells with chain lightening and then double the effects with zippy magic is where its going to shine, so its heavily skewed towards Azata imo.

    • @huntertaylor367
      @huntertaylor367 17 днів тому

      Also, as an alternative to multi mythic powers to overcome resistances, isn't there those stormlord gauntlets/bracers from act 3? As a spontaneous caster you'd get new spells AND get to turn everything to lightning, requiring only 1 resist bypass mythic ability.

  • @damagingthebrand7387
    @damagingthebrand7387 17 днів тому +1

    Yep, I am starting a Arcanist/Time Manipulator. I am not a big fan of Arcanist but wow, that is what I like. Cool beans.
    Thanks for the video.

  • @violau8550
    @violau8550 17 днів тому +1

    There are new feat that to make Bard and Skald, or any class with heavy Persuasion skills become absolutely spell caster, since you can use persuasion to lower enemies saving throw.

  • @someother5512
    @someother5512 16 днів тому +2

    They really messed up with that Kineticist archetype, hopefully they can fix it up a bit.

  • @malkavthemad4249
    @malkavthemad4249 17 днів тому

    Awesome run down. I might want to play a War priest now. Lol

  • @nickburose8286
    @nickburose8286 17 днів тому +1

    Pretty cool group of archetypes, tbh. Not quite enough for me to start another playthrough but it will be exciting when I do get around to it.

  • @mtknight5141
    @mtknight5141 17 днів тому +2

    The blood seeker sounds great but the negative energy healing is such a pain to deal with. But to go Legend mythic path and take 20 Bloodseeker / 20 Titan Fighter….

  • @VestigialLung
    @VestigialLung 17 днів тому +1

    From a RP perspective, I’ve had a character concept rattling around my head for awhile for a person who was basically a nobody until they came across a magic sword. 3.x D&D had rules for intelligent items where if they were sufficiently powerful, and you were sufficiently weak willed, the magic item might start making decisions for you. This character would take that to the extreme, doing a RP run of the blade bound magus, where the peasant who found this highly intelligent sword is now more or less its meat suit.
    Wouldn’t make much of a difference in terms of how this would play in the video game (though it would be a fun concept for tabletop), but it’s not like I didn’t do plenty of RP head canon about what my Machiavellian ruler in kingmaker was doing when off camera because the “evil” choices the game gave you were so mustache twirlingly anti-social type evil that they often didn’t really fit a more grounded take on amorality. (By the end game I was damn near LG just by making the decisions a smart ruler with an interest in *appearing* moral and in building up his kingdom would make).
    So yeah, I might slot bladebound in in the not too distant future, and it can really translate to about any archetype from a RP perspective.

  • @BlastMagicianYGO
    @BlastMagicianYGO 9 днів тому +1

    the bladebound magus being limited to scimitar for their black blade is really kinda meh. it's like they realized they were giving Magus something cool and had to find a way to ruin it.

  • @LucemFerre82
    @LucemFerre82 16 днів тому

    Definitely going to do a titan fighter since I always go with 2h weapons anyway, can you recommend some nice weapons to use?

  • @jezebel8551
    @jezebel8551 17 днів тому

    I knew we could rely on you! 😁

  • @genehenson8851
    @genehenson8851 17 днів тому

    I’m very excited to have an upgraded skald finally. I think inciter is actually going to be busted with the level 12 sneak attack feat.

  • @theyux1
    @theyux1 10 днів тому

    I think time manipulator arcanist deceiver is S rank.
    The ability to mid combat restore all spells and abilities of your main mythic character is just insane.
    It solves so many mythic path issues, demon might get better as an entire path.

  • @SageofStars
    @SageofStars 17 днів тому

    I would like to see what the Square looks like for the individual paths. Just finished an Azata playthru, which was mostly all about the fun, and referenced my Commander's origins a bit. Also what they added for those romance scenes(Arue's is okay, and certainly meaningful, but also played straight, and again, given I'M an Azata some of the dialogue sounded very specific to that path, but it might not be).
    Beyond that, hearing thoughts on the arena, and the various new piece of 'named' gear found throughout would be fun, I found only a few things that changed my builds, mostly given to my pet(A sabertoothed tiger), for added damage. For the moment, Bracers that add 10 to damage of 'weapons' include natural ones, so my kitty cat now deals +10 from that, +4 from studied target, and +1million thanks to all the other buffs...okay not that, but I rarely saw damage numbers even for claws below 50, so awesome.
    Oh, and this patch finally fixed Aivu so she no longer benefits from Tandem Executioner's studied target. Sadness. Mind, I think it buffered her defense, as she wasn't losing HP quite so fast, and didn't die at all in Threshold, which hasn't happened in a while. On the flipside, even given the best stuff I can give him, Bismuth(The triceratops spawned by the statue) seems to just roll over every fight.

  • @Alister222222
    @Alister222222 17 днів тому

    I'm doing a trickster Living Grimoire, mainly so I can have fun using Completely Normal Spell to cast all day and gain all the buffs to my tome from doing so. Also, since they've added a new metamagic feat to let you break past the normal limit on spell damage dice, I'm curious to see if it works with some heavy hitters like hellfire ray, which would be the most hilarious to use on a trickster or their companions. I also notice that the Living Grimoire gets up to a +3 caster level buff when they hit an enemy with their tome, so even going non-legend it will be possible to make all the per-round buffs become 24h.

  • @everett6072
    @everett6072 17 днів тому

    Super interested in a magic deceiver playthrough. Arcanist is supposed to be this middle-ground between Wizards and Sorcerers, but in WOTR they are often feeling just like a worse version of both. Magic Deceiver actually makes the class unique. My only question is what Mythic Path to take now since losing full caster status as well as not really interacting with Merged Spellbooks makes lich a lot less powerful of a prospect.
    Though my next playthrough is 100% gonna be a Legend Titan Fighter

  • @crazedmonk8u
    @crazedmonk8u 17 днів тому

    I was shook when you gave a warpriest class an A+! Those opioids did something to you lol

  • @matteochevara1108
    @matteochevara1108 17 днів тому

    Mantis Zealot is a monster. Feels awesome, looks awesome and i havent event scratched the surface yet. cant wait for the 2 sources of negative level infliction eventually since i took death. also took law for the anti chaos..... duh.

  • @tehanua4383
    @tehanua4383 16 днів тому

    How would yall go about gearing insighter? I was thinking of going melee punch daggers on or gnomb, but honestly im bad at builds

  • @GamesSackBoy
    @GamesSackBoy 17 днів тому

    black blade and bloodseeker looks so cool. I want to try them, hope that owlcat at least fixed some of the performance issues on ps4, game was almost unplayable by chapter 5

  • @Vagran
    @Vagran 17 днів тому

    Time to load up a team and set sail to test out these new archetypes.

  • @devoid820
    @devoid820 17 днів тому +2

    The king of granular wrath of the righteous breakdowns returns and knocks it out of the park. Thanks dude

  • @paweplaczek2191
    @paweplaczek2191 11 днів тому

    Someone tested MD and apparently there is some kind of combo that allow to CC pretty much everything on screen permamently and another that allow to get a decent shot at CC almost every boss in game.

    • @SlanderedGaming
      @SlanderedGaming  11 днів тому

      Honestly I really wanted to do a run with Nenio as a Magic Deceiver but somebody needed to handle the Intelligence checks so I stuck her with Shadowcaster instead.

    • @paweplaczek2191
      @paweplaczek2191 10 днів тому

      @@SlanderedGaming yeah usual problem. Too many classes not enugh party slots. I will propably use Woljiif on my current playthrou since experimenting with inciter. Since sneak attack aura is at level 14 soo his level will not be that much of a problem. Fiend totem for gore attack, Quilph on MC for bite. Mask of rapid bites, Dual wielding scimitars. Dip in to hunter for free outflank and sieze the initiative. Basicaly geting Selise and MC with sable company. Ulbrig in his gryphon form. Move inciter just enough to get what i want in rage song range. Fly charge and throw stupid number of attacks on anything i want gone.

  • @josephisafan
    @josephisafan 17 днів тому

    the man the myth the legend

  • @OWlsfordshire
    @OWlsfordshire 17 днів тому

    I skipped on the WOTR DLC because of all the bad reviews, but I'm going to give this one a shot. Also going to go back and pick up the other couple that grant you access to extra archetypes. Thanks for the breakdown!

  • @JohnnyOrc
    @JohnnyOrc 17 днів тому

    I wonder if they had given any thought to updating the Lich's companions? Ciar to a Ghost Mount Cavalier, Delamere to Bloodseeker slayer, etc.

  • @slowpokegarcia6342
    @slowpokegarcia6342 15 днів тому

    I love how you took offense that drunken master wasn't allowed to worship the best god. I felt that same way, and I thought they should've been the exception. Maybe owlcat may correct that later

    • @SlanderedGaming
      @SlanderedGaming  15 днів тому

      Yup they've already announced this will be changed. :)

  • @mattbond3512
    @mattbond3512 17 днів тому

    Would still love if you ranked the Sorcerer and bloodrager bloodlines

  • @warrend2880
    @warrend2880 14 днів тому

    I bought this DLC just for the Titan Fighter archetype, looking forward to this shredder...

  • @pharaun159
    @pharaun159 15 днів тому

    Im planning on multiclassing tandem executioner with sable company marine. I think its going to end up being the best coop pet build

  • @awesome27677
    @awesome27677 17 днів тому

    i would like to know what paths pair well with these new classes

  • @WastingPixies
    @WastingPixies 17 днів тому

    Not got a chance to fully watch due to work, but looking at chapters I'm not sure if you noted that Dragonblood Shifter got an update to get Dragonkind 3 as well

  • @felipebisi4145
    @felipebisi4145 17 днів тому +1

    I would love to See Camellia with Black Blade it combines so much with as a sadistic spoiled lady
    Sincerely the only "melee" or weapon based attack characters i like are the Telekinesis types like Sage in FFXIV or Irelia in League of Legends this is so Cool

  • @arahoshizora418
    @arahoshizora418 17 днів тому

    Is it bad the most vanilla options are the most I’m excited for. BIG WEAPONS or having a hippogryph pet both sound badass

  • @scottmcclure9407
    @scottmcclure9407 17 днів тому

    I may be wrong this coming from someone who is casual to Pathfinder. I think the kineticist new sub class turns your blast into arrow. Does that mean you can use feat for arrow. Like the one, I don't remember the name, but it fires an extra arrow on the first attack. Or the cleave shot in the mythic path. If this is true, I think that powerful sub class.

  • @acrab6527
    @acrab6527 15 днів тому

    Chexalian Diva> bard.
    Inspire Courage at 20: +5 att, +5 Damage, +5 vs fear and charm
    Diva's Haste Song at 20: +5 attack +5 AC, +5 vs reflex saves, and an extra attack because it's haste.
    And the haste song STACKS with other songs. So I have the Inciter Skald tanking with his raging song, while the bard gives the haste song. Doesn't matter what the other 4 party members are with that many buffs.

  • @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash
    @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash 17 днів тому

    Does drunken masters "booze up" ability require you to actually have alcoholic beverages in your inventory that are consumed or is it basically just a free spammable action that just requires time?

  • @KainMalice
    @KainMalice 13 днів тому

    I guess its time to do a Rakdos themed Demon play through

  • @jstuckless
    @jstuckless 15 днів тому

    1lvl dip into titan fighter for STR based slayers is nuts.

  • @leroyroberts8112
    @leroyroberts8112 17 днів тому

    I still need to try out dual curse Oracle, along with the new archetypes soooo I might has well murk daeran so I can get that huge EXP boost. I still haven't tried out demon path either so MC Titan fighter or MC bladebound magus is going to be next

  • @BathrobeKeck
    @BathrobeKeck 16 днів тому

    Living Gtimoire wielding thier book as a mace just reminds me of the classic "bible fight" meme.

  • @hajeeratiry5944
    @hajeeratiry5944 8 днів тому

    The greetings everyone made me laugh idk why

  • @othergrimm6592
    @othergrimm6592 17 днів тому

    I kinda want to try a Titan Fighter that dual-wields scythes... xD

  • @bmardiney
    @bmardiney 10 днів тому

    You know, I was looking up alternate builds for Wenduag (I had her as a mutation warrior but it's flooded with feats and not much else so it's boring). Bloodseeker seems almost custom-made for her (aside from the bite, but that's fine). It even fits the lore because she drank demon blood to "become strong" before the story started.

    • @SlanderedGaming
      @SlanderedGaming  9 днів тому

      Hmmmm I hadn't thought about that but you have a point.

    • @bmardiney
      @bmardiney 9 днів тому

      @@SlanderedGaming and I was just in a fight, she killed a guy across the battlefield with a barrage of arrows and then leaned over and killed the guy next to her with her bite. It didn’t even occur to me she would do that and it was perfect.

  • @AlexisTheDragon
    @AlexisTheDragon 17 днів тому

    I mean if u blast ur int up, or it can't go below 0, then drunkenmaster could have some terrifying ac+hit.

  • @vertauris
    @vertauris 17 днів тому

    Mantis Zealot sounds great but will you find those new weapons during standard campaign ? they actually added new items in the base game or its in the DLC only ?

    • @anthonyconnors5503
      @anthonyconnors5503 15 днів тому +1

      They are added to the base game. The vendor at camp when your heading to drezen has a 3 or 4 different ones right off but haven't progressed far enough to know how many of them were added throughout the game. Hope this helps

    • @tincano-beans2114
      @tincano-beans2114 13 днів тому

      Pretty light until the abyss and from there it opens up a lil bit. Maybe I missed some stuff tho.

  • @violau8550
    @violau8550 17 днів тому

    Im currently playing Inciter as MC, i guess the main problem is.. how am I able to make my MC more tanky, i mean, put a pool of grease in front of me?

  • @renynzea
    @renynzea 10 днів тому

    Wouldn't the Sharpshooter basically get 3 kinetic blasts per round at higher levels, vs the regular one, with the stacking -5 decreasing chance to hit? Haven't played it yet, but I would think it would be a net positive for single-target damage as you would get 2 extra blasts per round. Basically makes them ranged rogues that don't need the enemy to be flat-footed to deal sneak damage.
    Curious if energy blasts still count as an energy attack on the attack roll. If so it would also mean you would be ignoring armor, which would be a significant advantage over rogues.

  • @sametekiz3709
    @sametekiz3709 17 днів тому

    Can titan fighter deal sneak dmg with a trickster?

  • @non-playablecharacter5549
    @non-playablecharacter5549 18 годин тому

    Do you think the magic deceiver, the magic inventor one to be specific, will stack with Trickster in terms of finding items with increased enhancement bonuses?

  • @brunotavares2581
    @brunotavares2581 17 днів тому

    hey @slanderedgaming can you, please, provide more information on how the recent updates made armor more viable ? i haven't played since launch and back then it was waaaayy easier to make a high AC character without using armor

    • @vayneglory655
      @vayneglory655 17 днів тому

      They basically made some of the feats/class abilities required to make a pajama tank mutually exclusive so they don't stack anymore. There is a little more to it than that, but that's the important part.

    • @SlanderedGaming
      @SlanderedGaming  17 днів тому

      There's a Mythic ability that adds your Strength modifier to AC when you are wearing heavy armor. I believe there's also something similar for Dexterity when wearing Light Armor.

  • @kaz6556
    @kaz6556 12 днів тому

    Now i wanna play a trickster titan fighter

  • @jasonpauldegraaf
    @jasonpauldegraaf 17 днів тому

    Tried to create a new game and the character creation screen was bugged (wouldn't show subclasses). Curious if that's because I have a few mods installed. Not sure.

  • @Victhemighty
    @Victhemighty 17 днів тому +1

    I'll play a swarm mantis zealot soon

  • @MGPW
    @MGPW 17 днів тому

    For what it's worth, Law and Chaos have never had any consistent meaning in any version of D&D or Pathfinder. For that matter, Good and Evil aren't as clear-cut as you might at first think. The only explanation I have ever seen of Law/Chaos that is actually consistent is that "Chaos is wet and slippery. Law is dry and crunchy. If it always lives underwater, flip this around because the water itself is chaotic." So, drinking too much dries you up so you're dry and crunchy.

  • @XGifuX
    @XGifuX 17 днів тому +1

    Imma wait till the first of the month for mods to get updated before i play. I cqnt play this game without toybox and respec companions from level one. Teleporting and being able to rest all/kill all is vital in case of bugs and to be able to teleport thru walls to bypass bs puzzles

    • @dylanbell268
      @dylanbell268 17 днів тому

      might want to check in unity mod manager, some of my mods are already updated for dance of masks. Editing this because it looks like Toybox was updated yesterday for the dlc

    • @SlanderedGaming
      @SlanderedGaming  17 днів тому +2

      Yup I agree with Dylan a lot of mods are already up to date.

    • @zoid_on_youtube
      @zoid_on_youtube 17 днів тому +1

      im playing with toybox, tabletop tweaks, visual enhancements and respec mod, and they are all working correctly with the DLC

    • @dylanbell268
      @dylanbell268 17 днів тому

      @@SlanderedGaming i’m guessing the wrath devs gave the major mod developers early builds.

    • @XGifuX
      @XGifuX 17 днів тому +1

      @@zoid_on_youtube those exact ones are what I want good looking out chief

  • @Voklesh85
    @Voklesh85 17 днів тому

    Hello everyone, sorry for the newbie question but I owned the base game and with the arrival of these two DLCs, I purchased them all. However, I don't see the new archetypes in the main campaign in the list of classes or subclasses even when starting a new game. Do I have to do something special?

    • @SlanderedGaming
      @SlanderedGaming  17 днів тому +1

      Make sure you don't have any outdated mods that are currently enabled.

    • @Voklesh85
      @Voklesh85 17 днів тому

      I solved the problem on one of the two PCs the update had not started. Thanks a lot for the guides and information you give us. A greeting

  • @jadenquest9544
    @jadenquest9544 11 днів тому

    Have they fixed blood kineticist yet? I don't want to shoot water but blood

    • @SlanderedGaming
      @SlanderedGaming  11 днів тому

      Haven't heard anything about that class but they might have snuck in a fix.

  • @johnnythedark3090
    @johnnythedark3090 17 днів тому

    You skipped the most important part - dragon shifter is finally playable after the buffs lol.

  • @damagingthebrand7387
    @damagingthebrand7387 17 днів тому

    Also, People are required to name their Bladebound Elric. This is a fact.

  • @Greenlantern957
    @Greenlantern957 17 днів тому

    I knew you were a Greenlantern👍

  • @JohnnyTsunami55
    @JohnnyTsunami55 17 днів тому

    Fact monks can't be at least true neutral is crazy to me.

  • @1juanvasquez
    @1juanvasquez 16 днів тому

    So I could use a great sword one handed with a tower shield with titan fighter

  • @tehanua4383
    @tehanua4383 16 днів тому

    I don't really understand bladebound. I need to leave a hand free right? And a scimitar is a strength weapon isn't it. But the class really wants to be up in melee with armor? How the hell do I stat spread this class, lol.

  • @cbrock68
    @cbrock68 17 днів тому

    Yeah I’m gonna make a devil blade bound

  • @TheRealNemesisX
    @TheRealNemesisX 17 днів тому

    Overall... a buff... for legend mythic path.

  • @DynoGreen313
    @DynoGreen313 13 днів тому +1

    what is "bladebound (TTT)"?

    • @DarthJimius
      @DarthJimius 10 днів тому

      Do you have the mod tabletop tweaks installed in your game ? Because if you do you get the original and vastly more powerful bladebound magus from the tabletop game.

  • @HeadPats4You
    @HeadPats4You 17 днів тому

    I was so excited because i was SURE that drunken master would not be locked to lawful alignment :( my dreams of an azata monk continue to die a slow and painful death...
    Edit: Also, when bladebound was revealed, it was stated that the black blade would continue to fight even if the magus fell unconcious, but now in the description for independent ego it says that the black blade will disappear if the magus falls unconscious, which seems weird 🤷‍♀️

    • @viktorhermansson2284
      @viktorhermansson2284 17 днів тому +1

      defently, espacailly is it was specificaly said to not be so.

  • @Impfpv
    @Impfpv 17 днів тому

    heard it probablly. but your last 2 sentenses are a script error i guess. keep on doing cool videos!

  • @acrab6527
    @acrab6527 17 днів тому

    Seems to me that Chelaxian Diva was designed specifically for Azata. (or even better azata into devil.) Same way Hagriven was designed specifically for Demon. Why would an azata become a devil? Because he's Chelaxian not because he's an azata.
    I wonder which jobs they designed to work together this time. Because prophet of pestilence, Hagriven, and Witch of Gyronna area perfect trio that play off each other.

  • @kylevanderwolf4446
    @kylevanderwolf4446 15 днів тому

    According to Reddit the new deceiver doesn’t work well with trickster. Sad it seems so so interesting

    • @SlanderedGaming
      @SlanderedGaming  15 днів тому

      Hmmmmm why not?

    • @johnamparan
      @johnamparan 14 днів тому

      @@SlanderedGaming Trickster doesn't really get any bonuses for a spellcaster, mainly. Deceiver is REALLY good with Azata, though.

  • @grandlancer
    @grandlancer 17 днів тому

    Titan fighter with 2 Gnome Hook Hammers... probably won't work like that but I can dream. Way less interested in the Arcanist now that I know it only goes to spell level 6.

    • @SlanderedGaming
      @SlanderedGaming  17 днів тому +1

      I think Hook Hammers are considered to be double weapons and won't work with the class.

  • @FrostyThundertrod
    @FrostyThundertrod 17 днів тому

    A legend Sable company Marine/ Provoker, have to chose witch capstone to sacrifice to Dip into Titan warrior so you can dual weald Fauchards romance Ulbrig ride one griffin during the day ride the other one at night! Owlcat has raised the bar of bear sex with griffin sex