Phil Heath vs. Kai Greene - The Untold Story Of The Biggest Feud In Bodybuilding

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  • Опубліковано 27 гру 2024

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  • @ChrisWillx
    @ChrisWillx  Рік тому +21

    Hello you legends. Watch the full episode with Phil Heath here - ua-cam.com/video/llwjSyMl8Yc/v-deo.htmlsi=nnP4EqIS4HgLSaWL

  • @humanspoder777
    @humanspoder777 Рік тому +759

    Kai being the only one to call him after a loss says a lot

    • @BLAKEEATS1988
      @BLAKEEATS1988 Місяць тому +2

      yeah it says, how does it feel to lose? there are people like that who you think are concerned but really they want to rub it in your face and talk about it.

    • @rankcolour8780
      @rankcolour8780 Місяць тому +2

      @@BLAKEEATS1988 Did you even listen to what Phil said about it?

  • @Autodidacticpolymathicomniglot
    @Autodidacticpolymathicomniglot Рік тому +744

    please have kai green next as a guest on your podcast

    • @Sheyshel
      @Sheyshel Рік тому +5

      Yesssss!!!

    • @mastersheff37
      @mastersheff37 Рік тому

      And make sure to ask him about the watermelon he fucked for money.

    • @hugster2000
      @hugster2000 Рік тому +51

      He talks nonstop nonsense

    • @Autodidacticpolymathicomniglot
      @Autodidacticpolymathicomniglot Рік тому +7

      @@hugster2000 you do realise that you don't have to listen to him...right? Secondly, one can't make everyone happy...right?

    • @garrettd2131
      @garrettd2131 Рік тому +26

      podcast would be 12 hours long with the way kai talks

  • @brennenhiatt7479
    @brennenhiatt7479 Рік тому +266

    8:20 absolute chills, what a beautiful story to know these two legends have such a special relationship now

    • @ksmoove1100
      @ksmoove1100 Рік тому +4

      @jimbojimbo6873😂😂😂😂😂

    • @MrLJeffery
      @MrLJeffery Рік тому +4

      I like he clarified it wasn't emotional like he was gunna cry and he proceeds to get all misty eyed haha

  • @bearclaw5115
    @bearclaw5115 Рік тому +126

    Very impressed how well Chris was prepared for this interview. I think you can only get this far with someone when you have a personal and abiding interest in the topic.

  • @_6doughver
    @_6doughver Рік тому +63

    Kai vs Phil was the last time the Olympia was fun and entertaining to watch

  • @ChismTuggle
    @ChismTuggle Рік тому +8

    ...2016 college me has been waiting for this clip for nearly 8 years. Man this takes me back.

  • @davidgutierrez6023
    @davidgutierrez6023 Рік тому +68

    A Kai Greene interview would be fantastic.A very humble and competitive man.👍

    • @heveyweightheveyweight5399
      @heveyweightheveyweight5399 Рік тому +1

      I dont think he wants to be called a man

    • @ziekiee7966
      @ziekiee7966 Рік тому

      a very big man who likes to put a weener in a grapefruit xd

    • @OrphanCrippler1
      @OrphanCrippler1 Рік тому +3

      Pass. That dude is a weirdo

    • @marksmith7503
      @marksmith7503 8 місяців тому +2

      Kai talks too much

    • @Thedudeabides803
      @Thedudeabides803 2 місяці тому

      Kia is fluent in gibberish. He tries too hard to sound smart and he ends up sounding dumb.

  • @craineyfit8619
    @craineyfit8619 Рік тому +48

    "they didn't beat the Phil i know" maaaaan to have your rival say that 😢🙏

  • @WJohnson-qz9hg
    @WJohnson-qz9hg Рік тому +10

    i was such a kai fanboy during the height of their feud, but being older now and hearing phil talk im such a fan of the guy

  • @joeglue
    @joeglue Рік тому +21

    Never knew about that call. Made me feel like a teenager again hearing him talk about Kai. Incredible.

  • @BreadHarrity-w7n
    @BreadHarrity-w7n Рік тому +29

    Dude, your interviews are excellent as well as the studio setup, editing, shots, lens choices, lighting, etc.! Very very well done. Checks all the boxes. Great work!

  • @Uprising771
    @Uprising771 Рік тому +14

    kai and phil should start a podcast together, i think it could be the greatest show in bodybuilding

  • @BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender
    @BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender Рік тому +28

    I appreciate what kai did, spice things up,give us a show, like wwe but not going too far

  • @gavinmarion4550
    @gavinmarion4550 Рік тому +80

    The greatest rivalry was between Cutler and Coleman. Kai and phill was kinda forced by the industry

    • @Ksmoove0824
      @Ksmoove0824 Рік тому +2

      Agree.

    • @lancewilliams8001
      @lancewilliams8001 8 місяців тому

      Bigger than arnie and Mike

    • @Momoa786
      @Momoa786 2 місяці тому +1

      @@lancewilliams8001 Arnie Rivalies were many, but the most important competition wise was Arnold vs Sergio.. then vs Lou.. and then vs MIke.. but with mike was more about politics, personality and principles..

    • @BLAKEEATS1988
      @BLAKEEATS1988 Місяць тому

      Coleman and cutler? that wasn't a rivalry, that was just competition. a friendly competition, Phil and kai had bad blood and that's rivalry.

    • @iiyyxxnn
      @iiyyxxnn Місяць тому

      I don't know what's better jay chasing colman until colman got much worse and jay finally surpassed him. Or phil and kai who were neck and neck for years and years.

  • @TheGruffness
    @TheGruffness Рік тому +36

    Phil feeling validated by the big bad Kai says a lot

  • @mbag012
    @mbag012 Рік тому +55

    I was on team Kai, and I always lamented when Phil won. But damn Phil is one beast.

    • @salmanebennani9327
      @salmanebennani9327 Рік тому

      I believe Kai had him beat at least twice in my opinion.

    • @ChauncyCharm
      @ChauncyCharm Рік тому +1

      ​@@salmanebennani9327what years?

  • @rcosher
    @rcosher Рік тому +7

    The bond between the two is so strong cause only they have experienced the rivalary and now it became commaradery

  • @flemutter7211
    @flemutter7211 Рік тому +78

    Kai vs Phil was def the biggest fued.
    They really had tension..both of them had very unique looks. Phil was already rich then, Kai was struggling. Light vs dark

    • @venicec3310
      @venicec3310 Рік тому +9

      Light vs dark wtf lol

    • @flemutter7211
      @flemutter7211 Рік тому +32

      @@venicec3310 archetypes. You should read more

    • @venicec3310
      @venicec3310 Рік тому +1

      @@flemutter7211 nobody is in the dark or light just two competitors

    • @flemutter7211
      @flemutter7211 Рік тому +17

      @@venicec3310 again reading comprehension is key 🤦🏿 😂

    • @sebastianzwane1169
      @sebastianzwane1169 Рік тому +8

      Kai wasn't struggling, had muscle meds deal & winning 100k-150k for 3 years probably had other sources of income ,whilst living a minimalist lifestyle. He chose the simple less flashy life & that made him seem like he was struggling

  • @matthewmatthew3955
    @matthewmatthew3955 Рік тому +26

    I'm convinced Phil heath and elliot hulse are long lost brothers

  • @MasterFlores35
    @MasterFlores35 Рік тому +19

    Bring Kai Greene on next 🙌🏼

  • @kevinfoodness4467
    @kevinfoodness4467 Рік тому +21

    Phil and Kai got the world outside of bodybuilding to start watching the sport, def greatest rivalry hands down

    • @UnxCreative
      @UnxCreative Рік тому +2

      True!! After Kai stopped competing the open category started to decline and even more once Phil lost and didn't come back in 2019. It's no longer the most interesting thing at the Olympia like how it was when Kai and Phil competed.

  • @BrandonGiordano
    @BrandonGiordano Рік тому +4

    I hope the vibes are cool now cuz I look up to these guys rivalry and their dedication to the sport

  • @teknykill
    @teknykill Рік тому +3

    7:50 I would have called ya too bro! No matter what I lost and respected the guy who beat me. I would root for Kia being from NJ and seeing him since way back, but I knew Phil was the guy to beat. NY guys call each other names that we LOVE.

  • @gsrleo
    @gsrleo Рік тому +71

    It’s amazing how Kai Green can be the the biggest person to call and console Phil on his loss, yet Phil is still able to find a way to ruin it with his conceitedness and not acknowledge how great it really was and how much it must have took for Kai to do it despite the rivalry that they had…

    • @ksubyslowed
      @ksubyslowed Рік тому +9

      Of course Kai was always operating on a higher level.

    • @MikeyzFoodieLair
      @MikeyzFoodieLair Рік тому +6

      Umm. He earned the right to boast. Its not conceit. IT'S earned privilege to talk smack. Bodybuilding competition is cutthroat.

    • @sknkwrksowner
      @sknkwrksowner Рік тому +8

      He literally said how he appreciated it during that moment of him talking about it. 7:38

    • @jesusmarywillsaveyou
      @jesusmarywillsaveyou Рік тому

      13:02-14:40

    • @krisbrag87
      @krisbrag87 Місяць тому +2

      He did in his video later on. Talked about what that meant for him and the respect he had for Kai and that they are friends

  • @drewpetricc
    @drewpetricc Рік тому +4

    Phil & Kai should straighten everything out offline, then do a podcast together where they keep up the rivalry act. They could be a very entertaining duo like Eddie Hall & Brian Shaw !

  • @Morphious117
    @Morphious117 Рік тому +8

    Having a rival like Kai green only makes you better and work harder. Great rivalry made the completions enjoyable to watch

  • @Linknelson
    @Linknelson Рік тому +9

    I think Phill wanted this to be the biggest rivalry.. but I remember back in those times, they were still talking about Jay and Ronnie.

    • @matthewanthony4606
      @matthewanthony4606 9 місяців тому

      Disagree, Phil’s and Kai’s actual distaste for each other made their rivalry interesting. Ronnie and Jay came off as two regular dudes just having fun

  • @Momoa786
    @Momoa786 2 місяці тому +1

    off state, the rivalry was so huge because Phil has a huge Ego, and Kai somewhat also, although came out back in the day as more likeable, while Ronnie also was somewhat like Kai in that sense with enough big ego and strong confidence of him being the best, but Jay was the most downtoearth dude and chill, so it was hard to create a true unanimity and tense rivalry with someone like Jay.

  • @robertredmon6387
    @robertredmon6387 Рік тому +1

    Rivalries are very very healthy and rivalries don't have to be hated rivalries are vital for competition

  • @sonnyblacktr24
    @sonnyblacktr24 Рік тому +2

    Phil Heath's forearms out here looking like quads

  • @saltybrackishfresh
    @saltybrackishfresh Місяць тому +2

    Dude looks like Dr Mike now😂

  • @sknkwrksowner
    @sknkwrksowner Рік тому

    Cool bit of the interview to hear. Looking at the comments, I can clearly see why he said THE FANS ruined it!

  • @slamrock17
    @slamrock17 Рік тому +4

    The rivalry was awesome as a fan. I liked kai but phil won 100%

  • @Vss86
    @Vss86 Рік тому +7

    I met Kai in Birmingham fitness expo
    Dude was so humble and cool

  • @MONTAGUEN
    @MONTAGUEN Місяць тому +1

    Hasn’t been the same since them two left the Olympia!

  • @drkomuzik8640
    @drkomuzik8640 11 місяців тому

    Dude your interviews are absolutely top notch and the production quality is always amazing. This interview is great. All that being said. The set and setting looks so uncomfortable. Are you guys in a sweatshop, at a high school cafeteria lunch table, sitting on hard metal chairs with absolutely no cushioning at all? I feel for Phils back and butt from sitting in that chair that honestly looks so uncomfortable I can’t handle it

  • @blountman747
    @blountman747 Рік тому +1

    Incredible I'm glad, Greg called him after he lost. What an incredible time of bodybuilding are the Phil Heath age I think he probably passed the time I don't know

  • @datoneluv
    @datoneluv 6 місяців тому

    That Beef Took Bodybuilding into another Galaxy. I remember everybody being at the Gym Lookin Like Monsters tryna Get That Body

  • @sergiootero5904
    @sergiootero5904 Рік тому +3

    Woulda been real cool if you added the pictures you were talking about

  • @BeyondFormidable
    @BeyondFormidable Рік тому +10

    thank you this question to The Gift! Kai Greene was absolutely one of my favorite bb's of allll time...
    i remember wanting to flex next to one of my boys to just reenact the time they tried to upstage each other by engaging in that elbow war in 2014

  • @trustonit1131
    @trustonit1131 Рік тому

    these phil heath segments have been great

  • @doomfathertm8771
    @doomfathertm8771 Рік тому +8

    This was great. Thanks to Phil for doing this.

  • @maryjoschlechty7590
    @maryjoschlechty7590 Рік тому +2

    Phil you will never figure out Kai's mind, cause Kai himself doesn't know his full mind

  • @Knowledge.to_Come
    @Knowledge.to_Come Рік тому +6

    Phil heath has the best bodybuilding genetics probably ever, especially his response to the drugs and skin texture. He just took it too far with the HGH in his later competitive years. He could have had 10 olympias but im sure he started upping certain doses that he didnt need to near the end of his career and it caused him to have severe reaction (gut area)

  • @pbenitez_24
    @pbenitez_24 Рік тому +2

    Respect to Phil for giving Kai his props

  • @Daswaggermasta
    @Daswaggermasta Місяць тому +2

    2011 Phil heath was one of the best Mr. Os ive ever seen. I do think Kai shoule have won in 2013 and 14.

  • @JakesSake
    @JakesSake Рік тому +2

    Ronnie and Jay was the best rivalry - you had the greatest of all
    Time in Ronnie and Jay pushing all them years.

  • @grantiscreative
    @grantiscreative Рік тому

    Art direction is amazing.

  • @marxmaxmuscle1
    @marxmaxmuscle1 Рік тому +4

    great content

  • @liam_kentsportspod
    @liam_kentsportspod Рік тому

    Absolutely love these videos!

  • @jafaralhuseini3899
    @jafaralhuseini3899 Рік тому +2

    After hearing Kai call Phil after his loss shows he may have lost the battles but won the war.

  • @spitbarzzs8542
    @spitbarzzs8542 2 місяці тому +1

    conclusion: phil and kai, best friends for life

  • @toolstechgadgets
    @toolstechgadgets Рік тому +23

    Why phil looks like Kurt Angle so much, even tho he is light skin lol

    • @PolishBehemoth
      @PolishBehemoth Рік тому

      lol literally a light black kurt angle!

    • @toolstechgadgets
      @toolstechgadgets Рік тому

      @PolishBehemoth in size he's bigger, lil bit younger & short but face shape n cut kinda similar to 70%

    • @anthonyluna91
      @anthonyluna91 Рік тому

      Yo so true 🤣

    • @phillbarnes8513
      @phillbarnes8513 Рік тому

      If you close your eyes, he sounds like John McWhorter too.

    • @magicalfrijoles6766
      @magicalfrijoles6766 Рік тому

      ​​@@phillbarnes8513Dude, that's hilarious and only 4 of us got your reference.

  • @JM0X-007
    @JM0X-007 Рік тому +2

    Even now those forearms are still popping. Best in the history of the game.

    • @bowenbottorff1283
      @bowenbottorff1283 Рік тому +2

      His brachioradialis (forearm muscle on the top of the forearm that ties into the bicep) is literally bigger than a lot of people's arms. Only one that comes even close is Flex Lewis

    • @JM0X-007
      @JM0X-007 Рік тому

      @bowenbottorff1283 Its unbelievable, its like it sits on top of his arm like bubble of muscle, the fullness is insane.

  • @lionofjudhax
    @lionofjudhax Рік тому +1

    The rivalry between always main me hit the gym harder!

  • @Mark-ye8ro
    @Mark-ye8ro Рік тому +1

    That rivalry reminds me of Arnold and Sylvester.

  • @hugster2000
    @hugster2000 Рік тому +47

    Phil wasn’t the best ever lol Ronnie is

    • @up2me967
      @up2me967 Рік тому +2

      Yeha 4 sure but Phil is nr 2 and people sleeping on him because he's personality.

    • @marchegler3025
      @marchegler3025 Рік тому +2

      Potentially..... Flex Wheeler wayyyyyy better than Phil.

    • @AdamDear-y9u
      @AdamDear-y9u Рік тому +7

      Dorian Yates.

    • @youtubeenjoyer1617
      @youtubeenjoyer1617 Рік тому +4

      ​@@marchegler3025😂😂😂lmao based on what?

    • @rjskum688
      @rjskum688 Рік тому +1

      Arnold is the greatest of all time.

  • @colemanhuckins1181
    @colemanhuckins1181 Рік тому +7

    Okay now we need to hear what kai says about it all. Also I want to know what his top 10 is.

  • @darkglass5463
    @darkglass5463 2 місяці тому

    The Peak of Bodybuilding. Kai is amazing.

  • @Berserker_pump
    @Berserker_pump Рік тому

    Great interview 👍

  • @constant123
    @constant123 Рік тому

    Where did you get that table?!???!!!

  • @fresh0678
    @fresh0678 Рік тому +52

    If my ego was as big as Phil's, i would be president

    • @bearclaw5115
      @bearclaw5115 Рік тому +6

      Actually you need a smaller ego to be President. People who are secure and confident in themselves don't want the job.

    • @Insaniya.humanity
      @Insaniya.humanity Рік тому +16

      @@bearclaw5115politicians have the biggest egos ever. Small ego people , with absolute drive, chose a more dignified job

    • @TheVisibl3
      @TheVisibl3 Рік тому +16

      If you had 7 mr O's your ego would be the biggest ever.

  • @daguy9305
    @daguy9305 Рік тому

    Phil seems very cool and genuine 🙏

  • @honestfan420
    @honestfan420 Рік тому +1

    Kai Greene should be a 1x Mr Olympia.

  • @ondremayersthebajanbornkid2733

    2 of these best to ever do it

  • @TheEncouragementKid
    @TheEncouragementKid 2 місяці тому

    Kai Greene is a legend

  • @plutobaby9996
    @plutobaby9996 Рік тому +4

    Kai Greene got robbed a couple years in a row and that’s due to the politics that go on in bodybuilding

  • @reece_vanschalkwyk
    @reece_vanschalkwyk Рік тому

    Unreal content

  • @dlopzz5225
    @dlopzz5225 Рік тому

    I got chills wow that’s how it’s supposed to be honestly

  • @StaightJoc
    @StaightJoc Рік тому +5

    Kai never stood a chance against Phil for the Olympia title. Politics were always in Phil’s favor and he had a more aesthetically pleasing build despite Kai’s undeniably dense and defined muscle. Phil’s claim as the GOAT is also contentious - while he’s remembered fondly now he wasn’t always a fan favorite during his reign. Ronnie Coleman always had the judges and people on his side - he is the true GOAT of the modern era.

  • @mattepton5731
    @mattepton5731 Рік тому +1

    Sure am glad they didn’t actually fight, one of the greatest rivalries in bodybuilding.

  • @masiraadmiraal777
    @masiraadmiraal777 Рік тому

    Nice phone call ❤

  • @MoneyOverFame
    @MoneyOverFame Рік тому

    Phil is a good guy, real humble.

  • @luigirnotyourbusiness8127
    @luigirnotyourbusiness8127 Рік тому +1

    Violence is not the answer, but irl who wins in fight, Kai or Phil?

  • @nicholascameron6603
    @nicholascameron6603 Рік тому +3

    My own take - the Jay vs. Ronnie feud was better because Jay won 4 titles and Kai hasn't won that Olympia title. Jay conquered the mountain top, Kai didn't and to be honest the competition couldn't keep up with Phil. He was on another level. The trash talk was all they had for years because Phil knew (and the crowds) that Phil was basically a god among men. You can disagree but the facts speak for themselves. 7 titles.

  • @BlackManTravels
    @BlackManTravels Рік тому

    Awesome podcast session

  • @miaelder5484
    @miaelder5484 Рік тому +20

    It’s not bigger than Jay and Ronnie’s

    • @magicalfrijoles6766
      @magicalfrijoles6766 Рік тому

      Nope. It takes two winners to make a rivalry.

    • @luckyvaun
      @luckyvaun 2 місяці тому

      Not in a traditional sense but the tension between the two was unmatched. They almost came to blows on stage lol

  • @theturtle9800
    @theturtle9800 Рік тому +1

    Mentzer vs arnold is also a big one

  • @moietmesguitares
    @moietmesguitares Рік тому +1

    The best bodybuilding rivalry was Ronnie Vs Jay 💪💪

  • @mikeb8135
    @mikeb8135 5 місяців тому

    "They didn't beat the Phill that I know" Ufff that is an Apollo - Rocky 3 shit 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

  • @thewatcher4552
    @thewatcher4552 5 місяців тому

    Phil...Nobody was beating Phil in his prime. No one! Phil has to be the most intelligent BB in history. Let my body do the talking.

  • @philippedeclauzadedemazieu195
    @philippedeclauzadedemazieu195 Рік тому +1

    Phil's forearms though..surely the best set of arms

  • @yitziyyb
    @yitziyyb Рік тому +6

    Bigger fued than metzner and schwartzenager??

    • @g.buckieedwards7890
      @g.buckieedwards7890 Рік тому +8

      That wasn’t a feud though because Arnold was in another league

    • @Fabi_87
      @Fabi_87 Рік тому +1

      Yeah bodybuilding was much smaller back then. Arnold was on another level among anyone during his peak too.

    • @yitziyyb
      @yitziyyb Рік тому +4

      Don't think you guys know Metzner.
      You realize he was supposed to win in '80.., over Arnold.

    • @venicec3310
      @venicec3310 Рік тому +1

      It was more mentzer hating Arnold, arnold could care less lol

    • @marcus-the-mage
      @marcus-the-mage Рік тому

      Yeah, everyone needs to look up the controversy surrounding the 1980 Mr. Olympia.
      Arnold should have never been allowed to compete, let alone win. He didn't even deserve a top 10 finish.

  • @paranoidbeats9579
    @paranoidbeats9579 Рік тому +5

    Phil's forearms are bigger than my legs

  • @Vss86
    @Vss86 Рік тому +2

    Kai is a legend

  • @bigtojo
    @bigtojo Рік тому

    When Phil and Kai was on the stage everybody had to be on there A-game cause 1&2 was always set in stone.

  • @GarciaVega-e1c
    @GarciaVega-e1c Місяць тому

    5:11 I cried laughing lol.

  • @rowanisaac9603
    @rowanisaac9603 Рік тому +2

    Imagine Phil vs Kai masters Olympia

  • @speaktruth3891
    @speaktruth3891 Рік тому

    nobody can beat phil Heath forearm, he has big bicep on it too...

  • @znanystreamer9170
    @znanystreamer9170 Рік тому +1

    Phil's forearms are fucking unreal. What is this size.

  • @janverschuren369
    @janverschuren369 Рік тому

    Getting in someones head is a important tactick

  • @TheKingOfAllTrades
    @TheKingOfAllTrades 2 місяці тому +1

    💪🏽💪🏽

  • @deeshmond
    @deeshmond Рік тому +1

    I was always cheering for Kai over Phil when they competed. But, let's be honest, there really was no rivalry from a performance standpoint--Phil was always better

  • @Bobb45628
    @Bobb45628 Рік тому +1

    Phil’s forearms are just freaky 😳

  • @davidsoudek
    @davidsoudek Рік тому

    How self absorbed is Phil Heath… I’m the best ever. Dude Dexter Jackson was there when you were in HS and still there holding his own at your 3rd place showing in 2020. 20 Mr. Olympia appearances. Say what you want.. the longevity and success of his career outshines your Sandows.

  • @chriswizo9891
    @chriswizo9891 Рік тому

    They are both dope af.

  • @jaybanthony
    @jaybanthony Рік тому

    Kai should have definitely won at least one. Not taking anything away from Phil.

  • @pingpong4016
    @pingpong4016 Рік тому

    John Haack interview?

  • @nolan1907
    @nolan1907 Рік тому

    Phil, when will you give back the bracelet?