HOW DO VEGANS GET B12? With Dr. Michael Klaper, MD

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 401

  • @plantyourdestiny7616
    @plantyourdestiny7616 3 роки тому +59

    "Earth connected lives." Love that.

  • @LucasTigy2
    @LucasTigy2 3 роки тому +76

    "why are you eating that dirt?"
    "doctor's orders"

    • @dawncalder9323
      @dawncalder9323 3 роки тому

      Let them eat girt it obviously not making him sick

    • @davidhanson888
      @davidhanson888 2 роки тому

      why eat dirt when they can eat compost?

    • @alex_4trth
      @alex_4trth Рік тому

      Why not skip all and eat meat

    • @samponette3306
      @samponette3306 Місяць тому

      @@alex_4trthwhy use meat as a vitamin B12 pill? 🤷‍♂️

  • @spektred
    @spektred 3 роки тому +12

    Beautifully explained. Dr Klaper is the best ♥️

    • @toni4729
      @toni4729 Рік тому

      If you believe that crap from Klap. Back then everyone ate meat, not vegetables. That's how they got B12. Just the same way his mother and his great grandmother got it. If they ate vegan, he wouldn't have been born.

  • @adiohead
    @adiohead 3 роки тому +46

    Also important to note that the majority of B12 supplements are used in the animal agriculture industries.
    For example, nearly all dairy calves are given B12 in their formula.
    Chickens are often supplemented vitamins and minerals, and that includes "organic" and "free range".
    If the soil is depleted in cobalt then that is added to the feed.
    So people are still supplementing B12, just getting it indirectly through the life of an animal.
    Simply take the B12 supplement directly and don't support animal exploitation.
    Live vegan.

    • @KR-jg7gc
      @KR-jg7gc 3 роки тому +3

      Support plant exploitation instead 😂🤩😂

    • @BadgerBabyBoy
      @BadgerBabyBoy 3 роки тому +4

      I am vegan but I don’t want to take supplements
      There are natural sources of b12, duckweed for example has a surprisingly generous amount of b12

    • @BadgerBabyBoy
      @BadgerBabyBoy 3 роки тому +1

      I also drink from natural water sources sometimes & eat unwashed plants that I’ve grown.

    • @davidhanson888
      @davidhanson888 2 роки тому

      every vegan feels that meat-eaters are evil because we exploit animals but they never talk about humans (companies) exploiting humans by providing vegan junk foods and vegan-ideology. go vegan, stop exploiting animals, be exploited by the businesses. laughable.

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 роки тому

      B12 is the naturally-occurring beneficial bacteria in your gut, not something you get from eating a carcass or dirt or even plants. All you need to do is stay away from antibiotics and other pharma drugs like antacids, which destroy it. If you're so worried about it, then just eat plants loaded with B-complex like lentils and beans, leafy green vegetables, and ground seeds.

  • @wendysmith9682
    @wendysmith9682 3 роки тому +14

    Living Earth connected lives. I love that

  • @Kiyarose3999
    @Kiyarose3999 3 роки тому +109

    Yeast Extract is a great and ‘traditional’ way for Vegans to get B12, and has been my only source since I went Vegan 35 years ago. 🌎✊🏽

    • @OtherwisePanic
      @OtherwisePanic 3 роки тому +8

      There's no evidence to support this claim, but psychotic symptoms can be caused by b12 deficiency, so that might explain your delusional claim. Enjoy your neurological brain damage.

    • @mehakbharti6210
      @mehakbharti6210 3 роки тому +15

      @@OtherwisePanic no evidence to support this claim?😂 Simple google search will give you an answer

    • @OtherwisePanic
      @OtherwisePanic 3 роки тому +7

      @@mehakbharti6210 A quick Google search may tell you that some yeast extracts are fortified with B12 but yeast in no way contains B12 naturally. Yeast cannot produce B12 and they definitely didn't fortify yeasts 35 years ago when veganism was only a legend.

    • @mehakbharti6210
      @mehakbharti6210 3 роки тому +8

      @@OtherwisePanic so? Even if they're fortified the point is that you get b12

    • @OtherwisePanic
      @OtherwisePanic 3 роки тому +6

      @@mehakbharti6210 Yes, but you weren't getting you B12 from marmite 35 years ago, and definitely not in adequate amounts from fortified marmite today.

  • @helicart
    @helicart 3 роки тому +26

    I am surprised Klaper didn't mention the primary reason for lack of B12 in vegetables today - many are grown hydroponically, so never touch soil or the bacteria that make it. the evolution of many plant species has included the development of mutually beneficial
    symbiotic relationships with soil-borne microorganisms. In these relationships, both the host plant and the
    microorganism symbiont derive valuable resources that they need for their own productivity and survival as a
    result of the association.

    • @Kiyarose3999
      @Kiyarose3999 3 роки тому

      Sounds like you are describing Fungi, but B12 is not found in plants in general, except one plant that has recently been discovered to contain B12, that grows in Africa, ‘Duck Weed’, I think it’s called!.

    • @helicart
      @helicart 3 роки тому +4

      @@Kiyarose3999
      B12 is found in legume nodules due to Rhizobium-legume symbiosis. Rhizobium is a bacteria.

    • @tickyul
      @tickyul 2 роки тому

      Vegetable never have contained B12.

    • @helicart
      @helicart 2 роки тому +3

      @@tickyul
      Read the actual science, not pulp fiction.
      Although only a small number, there are examples of life long strict vegans who never take b12 supplements.
      Several are over 100 years old.
      Further many legumes and root vege have b12 in and on their roots.
      This is in the hard science.

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 роки тому

      @@helicart There's much more than a small number of long-term vegans that have never taken supplements -- a lot of them have been interviewed on the Vegan Linked channel. B12 is a fear & marketing campaign targeted at the growing population of vegans.

  • @stayhappylittlemermaid
    @stayhappylittlemermaid 3 роки тому +12

    Good things come to those that wait.

  • @bananaapple9737
    @bananaapple9737 3 роки тому +34

    Dude just blamed the whole system for why he has to take a artifical b12 supplement. Mind blown. And he also took me through every step, logically, on why that is. That's dope lol

  • @jjradV
    @jjradV 4 місяці тому

    Thank you plant based news and Dr Klaper for this excellent explanation of the Vit b12 issue !

  • @jameswayton2340
    @jameswayton2340 3 роки тому +62

    Step one: Take a B12 supplement and put it in your mouth.
    Meat eaters: Buy meat. heat up your pan. Put it in the pan for 10 min and wait all that time. Eat all that meat.
    Also meat eaters: ''But its so HUARDDD to get b12 as a VEGUNNN : O ''

    • @OtherwisePanic
      @OtherwisePanic 3 роки тому +8

      You realize as a vegan that you cook food too, yeah? Meat eaters kill two bird with one stone while you take pills that are know to be insufficiently utilized in the body.

    • @adhiantos
      @adhiantos 3 роки тому +28

      @@OtherwisePanic at least we don’t kill any sentient beings tho 😌

    • @adhiantos
      @adhiantos 3 роки тому +18

      A meat eater once told me that B12 is ONLY found in meat and therefore one cannot be vegan. I just quietly laugh in my normal B12 levels hahaha

    • @LucasTigy2
      @LucasTigy2 3 роки тому +6

      you're neglecting all of the other nutrients in the meat. a steak is seemingly a full day's meal all on it's own

    • @OtherwisePanic
      @OtherwisePanic 3 роки тому +3

      @@LucasTigy2 For real. Nothing beats a pound and a half cut of grass fed ribeye with a few tablespoons on butter top.

  • @oceanegele3559
    @oceanegele3559 2 роки тому +5

    Very helpful. Just a note we don’t/can’t drink out of just any stream today because a lot of water actually does have harmful bacteria. So don’t go out and drink from your stream lol! And as to tap water, remember other countries don’t follow the same sanitary practices with their water supply so when visiting, drinking filtered or bottled water is better than drinking “just any” tap water. I ended up in the hospital once because my aunt was refilling mineral water bottles with tap water. My relatives’ bodies were able to handle it because they grew up drinking it; mine unfortunately did not. Not promoting bottled water here though; just the safer alternative to tap water you’re not sure about. Just recently switched to drinking local glass bottled spring water for the minerals.

    • @jeremyfreemantle2777
      @jeremyfreemantle2777 Рік тому +2

      yeah but if we were living our natural way we would have no problem with handling those bacteria

    • @legoat8818
      @legoat8818 Рік тому +2

      Idk about that, maybe in the u.s. there’s a ton of Africans who drink water that way & even dig for water and drink it that and are one of the most healthiest people on the planet

  • @dalecollison791
    @dalecollison791 3 роки тому +19

    Hey Klaus thanks for the vid. Fortunately I live in Australia and our full blood tests are free. Having my 12 month this Wednesday after almost 1 year vegan and feeling great! Keep up the great work mate.

    • @karlstenator
      @karlstenator 3 роки тому +1

      💚 Medicare

    • @aaroiseverything
      @aaroiseverything 3 роки тому

      So jealous hahahah thats great!!

    • @jettagliturbo
      @jettagliturbo 2 роки тому

      Congratulations##🎉😎😉 I am on 14

    • @dalecollison791
      @dalecollison791 2 роки тому +1

      @@jettagliturbo yep. Just turned over 2 years and the last nurse asked if I was on blood thinners! She said I normally only see blood flow this well from people on medications. I feel fantastic. All markers that were red, cholesterols, are now in the normal range and my children are no longer sick every 2 or 3 weeks. Our little family is now thriving 🤯🤸

  • @Frankiez220
    @Frankiez220 3 роки тому +14

    All this and I still don’t know how much to take. The amount that it is measured in is confusing too.

  • @bari1199
    @bari1199 3 роки тому +3

    Thank You !!!!! I learn so much from Dr. Klaper to maintain and improve my vegan lifestyle. VEGAN FOREVER

  • @Caladcholg
    @Caladcholg 11 місяців тому +2

    Man, it takes a certain kind of something to be able to talk yourself into an alternate history like that 😮

  • @uglyotter9645
    @uglyotter9645 3 роки тому +3

    Very informative and true - thank you so much!

  • @jimb3093
    @jimb3093 2 місяці тому

    Great explanation of this. Boom, there is your B12 and get on with life.

  • @DarlainaMcAfee-Jackson
    @DarlainaMcAfee-Jackson Рік тому +1

    Absolutely

  • @zHikaruu
    @zHikaruu Рік тому +2

    Am I B12 deficient?
    I suddenly got tight headaches out of nowhere.
    I only ditched non-vegan supplements for a day

    • @toni4729
      @toni4729 Рік тому

      B12 can be saved in the liver for up to six years if you're a healthy person. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

  • @JustLivingfortheday
    @JustLivingfortheday 3 роки тому +4

    This is the future. Must buy these Vegan Stocks. BABYF and VRYYF going to be the future of the world

  • @moonlightdreams911
    @moonlightdreams911 3 роки тому +1

    Very educational !

  • @HassanSadek-mx8fg
    @HassanSadek-mx8fg 4 місяці тому

    very well explained thank you so much..

  • @beeb7477
    @beeb7477 3 роки тому +7

    Its funny cause ive been meat eater all my life and still my b12 was extremely deficient

  • @DanielAnthony-d8t
    @DanielAnthony-d8t 7 місяців тому +1

    I like it and we are in the same page!

  • @artsomniacv-logcitybydanie1249
    @artsomniacv-logcitybydanie1249 3 роки тому +4

    ' mocrodots' 😄!
    You really showed your age doc! Lol good times

    • @SMABEM
      @SMABEM 3 роки тому +2

      LSD baby!

    • @SMABEM
      @SMABEM 3 роки тому +1

      @Gary Martin ahhh that's the 60s.

  • @sergeifitzgeraldfih1031
    @sergeifitzgeraldfih1031 3 роки тому

    Milk Thistle, B12 itself ,Nutritional Yeast raise High blood pressure.
    Ceylon Cinnamon may down Blood sugar on Non dependent Insulin pts. But also it will raise your Blood pressure

  • @ScottBurnhard
    @ScottBurnhard 3 роки тому +4

    Seamoss thank me later

  • @RaushanRaj-gl1ni
    @RaushanRaj-gl1ni 4 місяці тому

    Jiyo aur jine do from bihar India world biggest vegetarian country and vegan friendly country

  • @CryptoRiddler
    @CryptoRiddler 8 місяців тому

    finally someone sane !

  • @T1Oracle
    @T1Oracle Рік тому +1

    So I have to eat dirt like a ruminant?

  • @shaquitaholmes7860
    @shaquitaholmes7860 2 роки тому

    Coconut Kefir, nori&water lentils(duckweed)

    • @dangit445
      @dangit445 2 роки тому +2

      Fruit of the saguaro cantus is packed with B12. I eat fermented foods like tempeh, kimchi, and drink kombucha too. I'm so glad that more natural sources of B12 are being found 🌱👍

  • @Olympic_TryAthlete
    @Olympic_TryAthlete 2 роки тому +1

    We have several apple trees in our yard and never bother treating them to prevent worms in the apples. Our son still eats them anyway. I’ve been wondering, however, from a B12 perspective, if we were never meant to have workless apples. Do the worms or what they leave behind contain vitamin B12? If so, is veganism using pesticide treated foods wiping out what would be a natural source of B12 if we just left nature alone? I’ve heard of vegans from India not suffering from B12 deficiency until immigrating to more sterilized western societies. Just wondering.

  • @jamesjonnes
    @jamesjonnes Місяць тому

    How do vegans get B12? They don't, and neither do junk food eaters.

    • @jamesjonnes
      @jamesjonnes Місяць тому

      And just because you have a supplement flowing through your blood doesn't mean that your body is able to use it.

  • @VeganDuchess
    @VeganDuchess 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this vid 🤘🌱💚😊

    • @toni4729
      @toni4729 Рік тому +1

      Sad he's wrong, totally wrong.

  • @user-gu9yq5sj7c
    @user-gu9yq5sj7c 3 місяці тому

    b12: duckweed, tempeh, banana peel

  • @jueatsplants8154
    @jueatsplants8154 3 роки тому +28

    I loved hearing Dr. Klaper's explanation... as a vegan, I know B12 is especially important for me but I've always wondered why and why we sometimes lack it. Yet another counter to many non-vegans' argument that we "need" animals for certain nutrients... it all comes from PLANTS!!

    • @ddpwe5269
      @ddpwe5269 3 роки тому +7

      B12 doesn't come from plants. If you watched the entire video, you would know this ;)

    • @jueatsplants8154
      @jueatsplants8154 3 роки тому +10

      @@ddpwe5269 It comes from the soil in which the plants grow... and it certainly doesn't originate in animals which are slaughtered for you to eat :) keep wasting your time arguing over this though, it's a great use of your time!

    • @ddpwe5269
      @ddpwe5269 3 роки тому +4

      @@jueatsplants8154 Right, so it DOESN'T come from plants. Thanx for saying exactly what I responded to the main comment about. Keep up the great work!

    • @blackmarlin3166
      @blackmarlin3166 3 роки тому +1

      You're playing with the word origin and source, we dont eat dirt and eat plants straight out the ground because of sanitation reasons which is valid the only true source of b12 are animals.

    • @stairsproductions636
      @stairsproductions636 3 роки тому

      @@blackmarlin3166 to be fair you're also playing with the word "true". Animals aren't the only 'true' source. Not that true sources matter much at all as long as the end result is the same.

  • @PLANTBASEDNEWS
    @PLANTBASEDNEWS  3 роки тому +7

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    • @SaintPepsiSanCoca
      @SaintPepsiSanCoca 3 роки тому +1

      why not just get a blood test at the doctor???

    • @patsydf
      @patsydf 3 роки тому +1

      @@SaintPepsiSanCoca An unnecessary test in the UK has to be paid for, plus no one wants to go to the surgery at the moment, I have been taking B12 for the last 6 years, plus a couple more supplements, I have no idea if I'm deficient in anything but I'm 68 and want to live for a long time yet. I eat a very healthy, plant based diet without many processed 'vegan' products.

    • @Sunnysue31
      @Sunnysue31 3 роки тому +1

      @@patsydf Deficiencies are NOT unnecessary tests and can indicate far more than just an inadequate diet ... Far better to go to a qualified Dr in your own country.... I appreciate these are unprecedented times, however, it is just this mind set (albeit very well-meaning) that may well result in more unnecessary deaths...

    • @Sunnysue31
      @Sunnysue31 3 роки тому

      @@patsydf So if told ( by these test companies) you have a Vit B12 deficiency, you take a B12 supplement for a few months... in the meantime, the cancer you may have, is left undetected and possible only found when too late.....

    • @patsydf
      @patsydf 3 роки тому +1

      @@Sunnysue31 I am screened for cancer regularly, all free by the NHS

  • @anjirlicaminu4610
    @anjirlicaminu4610 2 роки тому

    Great Video thanks

  • @rlocatellidigital
    @rlocatellidigital 3 роки тому +11

    A friend of mine -- which is vegan -- use to say this joke: to get B12 you only need to do this: before go to bed, lick your socks that you wear during the day. And actually it's true. But I prefer to take my capsules.

  • @nirviikalpa
    @nirviikalpa 2 роки тому +1

    I’m confused, I understand that we took the bacteria that created b12 but now we are not. So if we know which bacteria, then can we take it? Like probiotic..

  • @Rosannasfriend
    @Rosannasfriend 3 роки тому +1

    Great topic!

    • @toni4729
      @toni4729 Рік тому

      It's sad he's talking rubbish.

  • @gregnixon1296
    @gregnixon1296 3 роки тому +1

    So, how much vitamin B12 do I need?

  • @rogiervantilburg3440
    @rogiervantilburg3440 11 місяців тому

    Very interesting!!

  • @knucklepushups9306
    @knucklepushups9306 3 роки тому

    Wonderfully explained

    • @toni4729
      @toni4729 Рік тому

      If you believe it.

  • @lizzybeedman7260
    @lizzybeedman7260 3 роки тому +1

    In Dr. Gregers presentations on b12 he mentions a newspaper story from like 1853 about a vegetarian man with b12 deficiency who ate meat again to get better, but why was he deficient if it was abundant in the soil and water at that time?

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 роки тому

      Good question. Dr. Gregor has very questionable ideas sometimes that seem to promote benefits in meat and dairy, and he has definitely promoted pharma drugs.
      The truth is that what's called B12 is the naturally-occurring beneficial bacteria in your gut, specifically the lower intestine (just like animals). It's not something you get from eating a carcass, synthetic supplements, dirt or even plants. All you need to do is stay away from antibiotics and other pharma drugs like antacids, which destroy it.
      If you're worried about it, then just eat plants loaded with B-complex like lentils and beans, leafy green vegetables, and ground seeds.

  • @choonkoktan9716
    @choonkoktan9716 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the information on vit 12, Dr Klapper. I am also very thankful to Klaus for sharing his experience on his 6 years of veganism and then tested with without B12 deficiency! That has proven that a plant based diet can can provide all the necessary nutrients without any supplements which effectiveness is doubtful!

  • @Olivetree80
    @Olivetree80 3 роки тому +27

    There are other vitamins that should be mentioned, B12 is actually easier to get than people know without taking a supplement. My levels are very high without one, because I eat a lot of nutritional yeast and consume other fortified sources. Strangely, it's one I know I don't have to worry about.

    • @LucasTigy2
      @LucasTigy2 3 роки тому +1

      do you eat the yeast raw or do you prepare it a special way?

    • @helicart
      @helicart 3 роки тому +5

      Until you have been a strict vegan for at least 7 years, you will not know whether you are eating enough B12. Most people don't start to have micronutrient deficiencies until 2-4 years on a vegan diet. They can feel great/light/clean in the first few years, then suddenly they are not doing so good.

    • @patsydf
      @patsydf 3 роки тому +5

      @@LucasTigy2 Nutritional yeast flakes are a product, smells like cheese and can be used in the making of a vegan 'cheese' sauce, sprinkle it on anything, it's deactivated yeast.

    • @patsydf
      @patsydf 3 роки тому +1

      This is just a very short section from a much longer video, just covering B12, I think PBN are probably earning cash by advertising the test kit.

    • @wcraca5
      @wcraca5 3 роки тому +2

      "without taking supplement" so you're taking food that has supplements, waw

  • @sophietopham8822
    @sophietopham8822 3 роки тому +1

    I take a bright blue algae daily and checked on cronometer and saw b12 through roof so take this daily, I heard our good bacteria produce this in gut also? If this is case I help to proliferate these good bacteria by eating lots of raw vegan high fibre plants to feed them

  • @juan-ou3gq
    @juan-ou3gq Рік тому

    i put one tiny table in my mouse last week and I felt good the whole week

  • @livilu32
    @livilu32 5 місяців тому

    isn’t nutrition yeast a hybrid not good for us ??

  • @docmemphis2760
    @docmemphis2760 7 місяців тому

    Its about bioavailability

  • @kevitetse-o5053
    @kevitetse-o5053 3 роки тому +4

    no kidding being vegan only for the privileged... 1KG of meat cost around 4$ out here in NE

  • @davilated
    @davilated 3 роки тому +3

    In the description you wrote CoVid-19 as though it were a password

  • @peterpiper487
    @peterpiper487 2 роки тому +3

    Calf and chicken liver is a very good source of vitamin B12. Our ancient ancestors got plenty of B12 from meat... a perfectly natural way to get it. Either way to get it, vegan or not, is perfectly fine.

    • @davidhanson888
      @davidhanson888 2 роки тому

      true. but they insist that vegan is the true healthy diet. sadly, they are the righteous ones and we meat eaters are evil in their eyes.

    • @alex_4trth
      @alex_4trth Рік тому +1

      Agreed

  • @torgeirmolaug196
    @torgeirmolaug196 3 роки тому

    Our only options is to either add dirt (soil bacteria) to our diet, or take a B12 supplement. Sad.

  • @harakeke11
    @harakeke11 3 роки тому

    Is this a world wide service or just for a specific country?

  • @TheNavid001
    @TheNavid001 3 роки тому +4

    I just drink fortified oat milk at least once a day. Tastes good and it’s easy

    • @toni4729
      @toni4729 Рік тому

      @@christinekellylouisehaylet3724 Cows milk is the best and far healthier. Cows fortify the soil as well.

    • @alex_4trth
      @alex_4trth Рік тому

      And is an unatural processed food yes. Nice.

    • @mogenvonbogel7342
      @mogenvonbogel7342 Рік тому

      There is no fortified oat milk in nature

  • @Michael-pn5lp
    @Michael-pn5lp 11 місяців тому

    According to many UA-cam videos duckweed contains B12.......

  • @vikingh3008
    @vikingh3008 3 місяці тому

    Just eat grass fed beef, and beef liver,

  • @veganvocalist4782
    @veganvocalist4782 Місяць тому

    💚💚💚

  • @Yavor-Karapetrov
    @Yavor-Karapetrov 3 роки тому +3

    What about the fact that we can produce vitamin B12 under the place that can absorb it? So, we can eat food with tons of bacteria, but the vitamin will be produced where we CAN'T absorb it. It is a flaw in our human body. So, is it really true what Michael Klaper says: "We provided B12 in the past eating dirty food and drinking stream water" or this is IMPOSSIBLE for our species?

    • @kawaljitsingh47
      @kawaljitsingh47 3 роки тому

      You are absolutely right. Bacteria produces Vitamin B12 in colon, where as vitamin B12 absorption happen in small gut. Even if you eat all the bacteria from dirt, you will never be able to absorb any of Vitamin B12 produced by that bacteria. I am surprised that Klaper has no idea about human physiology!!

  • @toni4729
    @toni4729 Рік тому

    Hey Klaper! You're talking KLAP-TRAP.

  • @ucanoe
    @ucanoe 2 роки тому

    Hi Dr Klaper, thank you for your video, I would like to know if you can be more specific about the brands and doses of B12 you recommend. There are hundreds out there with different compositions cyano vs methyl etc.
    They also seem to carry many additives besides the B12. And they seem to have very large doses per tablet? Standard tablets are 1,000 mcg B12 which is 400 times the required amount of 2.4mcg/day. I understand that absorption plays a part of this but is 400 times the amount necessary? Thanks again.

    • @davidsheriff9274
      @davidsheriff9274 2 роки тому

      Yes, I never understood that either. I guess it is what you say,,that the absorption and bioavailability of the B12 in the supplement is so low that you have to take a really big dose to get near the 2.4 mcgs in your system, and I guess the rest is excreted through the urine. But I am not sure of that, I can't get a clear answer to it on the internet. I don't know how much to take. If you find out the answer to the question, let me know.

    • @youcanoe
      @youcanoe 2 роки тому

      @@davidsheriff9274 never did get a clear answer and it can be dangerous to take too much of any compound...hard on the kidneys and perhaps other organs...a piece of salmon only has 3.2 ug...so what's up. If you find and answer pls let me know.

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 роки тому

      @@davidsheriff9274 What's called B12 is the naturally-occurring beneficial bacteria in your gut, specifically the lower intestine (just like animals). It's not something you get from eating a carcass, synthetic supplements, dirt or even plants. All you need to do is stay away from antibiotics and other pharma drugs like antacids, which destroy it.
      If you're so worried about it, then just eat plants loaded with B-complex like lentils and beans, leafy green vegetables, and ground seeds.

    • @MariaLionz4
      @MariaLionz4 Рік тому

      ‘There is no risk of an overdose when taking large amounts of vitamin B-12 such as 1000 mcg, because it is a water-soluble vitamin. Meaning the body will use the amount that it needs then the excess will be excreted through urine.’

  • @jamesmathie1837
    @jamesmathie1837 3 роки тому +2

    Question to fellow vegans. Which of you guys eat mussels? I would personally continue to identify as a vegan and continue eating mussels. They are nutritious and are a good source of b12.

    • @OtherwisePanic
      @OtherwisePanic 3 роки тому +1

      In my opinion, if you ate a WFPB diet and used muscles as a sort of B12 (and many other vitamins) supplements than you'd be adequately healthy. Synthetic supplements don't work well, don't let people deter you from achieving health.

    • @cuthbertjolly4859
      @cuthbertjolly4859 3 роки тому +2

      ¨Mussels are long-lived animals meaning they can live for several decades and in some instances a century or more. They often live in multi-species communities called mussel beds. These beds can support 30 or more species and are generally more diverse in rivers and streams than in lakes.¨.

    • @naturalnics
      @naturalnics Рік тому +1

      So after sliding into veganism honestly due to a bout of poverty, I became b12 deficient and headed straight out for a bowl of mussels. I went back to eating meat, also thinking that veganism was a scam due to the lack of natural b12, and a year later I’m back on researching veganism more deeply again. I also believe that my best chance is largely WFPB with meat a couple times a month for supplementation.

  • @gfy2979
    @gfy2979 2 роки тому

    Fruit in the wild has tiny insects/mites on it and in it, so eating insects was inevitable in natural settings

  • @janettempest716
    @janettempest716 Рік тому

    Seaweed B12 vitamin

  • @norahalkefs
    @norahalkefs 3 роки тому +1

    How can I get information for raising a child on a plant based diet?

    • @monalane9726
      @monalane9726 3 роки тому +5

      Children shouldn't be raised on plant based. Let them make their own decisions when they're adults.

    • @OtherwisePanic
      @OtherwisePanic 3 роки тому +1

      @@monalane9726 I agree 100%.

    • @norahalkefs
      @norahalkefs 3 роки тому +1

      @@monalane9726 When a child has allergies when eating animal products and very severe ones?what does one do?????

    • @martinjeanneteau7950
      @martinjeanneteau7950 3 роки тому +3

      @@monalane9726 isn't feeding animals to children the same ? You are one way or another not leaving the choice to your kid. But that's the point of parenting

    • @ozymandias8523
      @ozymandias8523 3 роки тому

      @@martinjeanneteau7950 but being carnivorous/omnivorous is the normal for humans beings. And I say it as someone who didn’t eat meat as a kid until 12 years. While if you do it anyways at least give him supplements.

  • @Matiaza
    @Matiaza 3 роки тому +6

    Don't risk your health by getting b12 and vitamin D only by supplements. Eat small seafood raw once or twice per week, just to be sure that you get some of the vitamins and minerals by natural way as well. Supplements don't necessarily work on all people. Just be smart.
    Greetings from mostly whole foods plant based eater.

    • @roboppers
      @roboppers 3 роки тому +1

      Nice, I love my b12 together with some heavy metals!

    • @Matiaza
      @Matiaza 3 роки тому +4

      @@roboppers Plants have heavy metals as well.

    • @OtherwisePanic
      @OtherwisePanic 3 роки тому

      @@roboppers If you get some wild caught Alaskan sockeye salmon then heavy metals aren't actually a problem, and in relation to conventional plant agriculture, there is virtually no heavy metals in wild sockeye while your veggies and grains are loaded with heavy metals and a dangerous amount of agro-chemicals.

    • @lizzybeedman7260
      @lizzybeedman7260 3 роки тому

      then why not just eat some seaweed

  • @tennisisphysical
    @tennisisphysical 3 роки тому +6

    Animals in factory farms don't graze! #govegan #compassion Also, we store B-12 for years... So no need to fear a deficiency. Fortified can be false advertising too

    • @tekumedo442
      @tekumedo442 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly!

    • @Acevolt
      @Acevolt 3 роки тому

      So do factory farmed animals really have B12?

    • @tekumedo442
      @tekumedo442 3 роки тому

      @@Acevolt well maybe they do, but definitely much less than organic farm animals have (factory animals don't eat grass and antibiotics kill the good gut bacteria)

    • @lizzybeedman7260
      @lizzybeedman7260 3 роки тому

      @@tekumedo442 factory farmed animals are supplemented b12 through there feed

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 роки тому

      @@Acevolt Farmed animals have the same naturally-occurring beneficial bacteria in their lower intestines as humans do, except it's been destroyed by all the antibiotics they're given. The same thing that happens to humans if they take antibiotics.

  • @marshallnunezjr.7684
    @marshallnunezjr.7684 3 роки тому

    Stinning nettle is the only green herb that contains Vitamin B12.

  • @ni3070
    @ni3070 3 роки тому

    The b12 in stream if boiled will still be there?

    • @andrewbromhead-deljo693
      @andrewbromhead-deljo693 3 роки тому +1

      I'm not a scientist or anything but considering we boil water to kill bacteria it probably wouldn't be there?

  • @shonnou
    @shonnou Рік тому +1

    Utter BS !!!
    As any Archaeologist or Anthropologist can attest

  • @donna-hughes
    @donna-hughes 3 роки тому

    Does rainwater have b12? Thanks

  • @wanderingohm
    @wanderingohm 3 роки тому

    The majority of 'our' grazing livestock is supplimented with B12 because their living conditions means they don't graze as much as they should as they are being fed in sheds.

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 роки тому

      No, it's because the naturally-occurring beneficial bacteria in their guts are destroyed by all the antibiotics they're given. Just like in humans. Why would animals have it in their lower intestines and not humans? Just as long as they don't take drugs that destroy it.
      And the meat & dairy industry promote the idea the farmed animals are given B12 supplements, even though you can't obtain good bacteria from a rotting carcass; you need a living host.

    • @wanderingohm
      @wanderingohm 2 роки тому

      @@Empathy4Animals411feels like you having a go... But its also because most water systems are closed now so everyone's water source doesnt have it in it either

  • @jesseflores9087
    @jesseflores9087 3 роки тому +5

    Someone tell that doctor that it’s ok to say that ancient people also got b12 from eating animals, as well as soil

  • @Caladcholg
    @Caladcholg Рік тому

    Our just east real food and don't be at the mercy of these pharmaceutical companies

  • @sportscarfacts8180
    @sportscarfacts8180 3 роки тому +9

    Take your damn b12 and d if you're not getting sunlight

    • @panomaelodie290
      @panomaelodie290 3 роки тому +2

      And omega 3 if not eating enough chia seeds and hemp seeds

    • @jairusbryant3229
      @jairusbryant3229 3 роки тому +2

      If you gotta take supplements to get all of your needed vitamins and minerals.... wouldn’t you say that this type of diet isn’t sustainable

    • @lismarcel
      @lismarcel 3 роки тому +6

      @@jairusbryant3229 Not really, no. If you have your blood work done, it might turn out you're deficient in something and need to supplement/change your diet. As an omnivore, I thought I was eating healthily and yet I supplemented because something was always slightly off. I also took anti-inflammation meds because I had arthritis from all the dairy I was eating (I was very serious about bench pressing at the time and I thought I needed more protein but had no idea dairy is terrible for the joints). Been vegan for over 2 years, my test results are great and I take only B12 a few times a week. As for vitamin D, lots of people, most of whom are omnivores, are deficient because they're not getting enough sunlight

    • @Veganarchy-Zetetic
      @Veganarchy-Zetetic 3 роки тому +3

      @@jairusbryant3229 B12 comes from soil and vitamin D comes from the sun.
      'In order to maintain meat as a source of B12 the meat industry now adds it to animal feed, 90% of B12 supplements produced in the world are fed to livestock.'
      baltimorepostexaminer.com/carnivores-need-vitamin-b12-supplements/2013/10/30
      Would you give a dog a B12 supplement, then kill the dog and eat it or just take the B12 supplement yourself?

    • @LucasTigy2
      @LucasTigy2 3 роки тому

      @@jairusbryant3229 at this point, a doubt anyone is getting enough sunlight in our modern world, so vitamin D supplements should almost be issued by the government or something to be sure everyone gets enough. that and maybe iodine as we may not be getting enough of that but we all can't live near a good source of it

  • @VeganChiefWarrior
    @VeganChiefWarrior 3 роки тому +1

    hopefully we head towards a supplement free natural way of getting b12 that is civilized somehow

    • @naturalnics
      @naturalnics Рік тому

      There are seaweeds and mushrooms that also contain b12

    • @naturalnics
      @naturalnics Рік тому

      There are seaweeds and mushrooms that also contain b12

  • @thehealthbodyfitness
    @thehealthbodyfitness 3 роки тому

    The Ancient People's was Vegans Something Like that Awesome

    • @alwoo5645
      @alwoo5645 2 роки тому

      No they weren't.

    • @toni4729
      @toni4729 Рік тому

      There has never ever been a natural vegan on this planet. There are natural carnivores, plenty of them. You can live on meat and fish easily but you cannot live on vegetables.

  • @og.rippa3056
    @og.rippa3056 3 роки тому

    So that's like a honey bee. They get it from a plant right

  • @Rad_Burn
    @Rad_Burn 8 місяців тому

    Морская капуста

    • @Rad_Burn
      @Rad_Burn 8 місяців тому

      Ламинария

  • @BadgerBabyBoy
    @BadgerBabyBoy 3 роки тому

    Aren’t there any natural vegan b12 sources?

    • @anarchy7741
      @anarchy7741 3 роки тому +1

      buckthorn berries
      purple laver
      mushrooms

    • @toni4729
      @toni4729 Рік тому

      Yes. They're called animals. If B12 was so hard for animals to find, gorillas wouldn't survive on their own poop. That's where they get it.

    • @ДесиславаБалабанова-ь3ж
      @ДесиславаБалабанова-ь3ж Рік тому

      @@toni4729 No, you are eating animals from the industry, which dont take b12 naturally from the soil, but from supplements given to them while suffering in a tiny cell.

  • @paulop3730
    @paulop3730 3 роки тому +4

    B12 can be found naturally in Chlorella and Duckweed.

  • @shirasezan
    @shirasezan 2 роки тому

    to the point ,,,,thank you'''''i am sick of this stupid new generation who are so afraid to speak their mind

  • @BarryAnderson
    @BarryAnderson 2 роки тому +1

    Cheese and milk must be RAW and ORGANIC and Cultured for the bacterial
    flora that supports B-12 as a condiment only to your diet. Coconut milk
    that is cultured is a good source of B-12. My research has Aloe Vera
    having B-12 along with seaweed, Chlorella, and Spirulina which is an
    alga. Also, Nutritional Yeast has B-12 and all kinds of mushrooms
    including the hormone D-3 and you should know that the B-12 is the
    largest nutrient in the B family class so we do have the issue of a
    stringent factor of absorption issues in the GI tract as a person ages.
    Supplement commercial B-12 is not advised as this questionable
    supplement can have industrial waste sewage elements from my research on
    the subject and this is not good. Any diet that needs or endorses
    supplementation of any kind is in my researched opinion a deficiency
    diet at best. Good to note that the original Dr. Max GERSON Therapy used
    organic desiccated liver for the high vitamin A a fat-soluble vitamin
    but also has a very rich source of B-12 as well. Muscle meat has no B-12
    and is only found in the meats of organs if the meat is wild game and
    grass-finished only and not just grass-fed that the livestock industry
    does not want consumers to know the truth about the differences between
    the two. The human liver does store B-12 but without it, the host will
    eventually run out of storage and then all nutritional hell breaks out
    as it did for me more than 3 decades ago. On my 14 years 100 percent
    VEGAN whole food diet I depleted all of my reserves of this essential
    vitamin and the Doctors placed me on weeks of B-12 shots and monitored
    my complete blood count. I was deficient also in omega 3 fatty acid and I
    was anemic as well. We all have different constitutions and different
    intestinal tract gut biomes and different immune system functions and
    age and location and access to safe organic food choices so one size
    will never fit all. Thank You, Holistic Chef, Barry Anderson is
    co-founder of the Island Pearl of the Orient Phuket Thailand named the
    Garden Villa Phuket Retirement Vacation Longevity Wellness Detox Nature
    Retreat a Google Website soon to be launched later this year.

  • @rosiejacobs2350
    @rosiejacobs2350 3 роки тому

    Well weird he mentioned a covid 19 test, completely unrelated looooil

  • @philodice
    @philodice Рік тому +1

    No, humans didn't eat dirty, poop covered grass in prehistoric times. Did NOT happen.

  • @gms592
    @gms592 3 роки тому +3

    Go carnivors.

  • @dangit445
    @dangit445 2 роки тому

    Fruit of the Saguaro cantus is packed with B12, water lentils or "duckweed" is looking promising too 🌱

  • @lesgibson969
    @lesgibson969 3 роки тому

    🌱🌱

  • @visco154
    @visco154 2 місяці тому

    Eat meat !

  • @JappaKneads
    @JappaKneads Рік тому

    Just supplement...

  • @Jamesnebula
    @Jamesnebula 3 роки тому +1

    Oooooooor, as we became bipelled humanoids and were hunter gathers for millions years of years we evolved to get b12 from our eating hunted animals.

  • @VeganChiefWarrior
    @VeganChiefWarrior 3 роки тому

    love this idea but it doesnt pan out as there is no evidence

  • @ilonabaier6042
    @ilonabaier6042 Рік тому

    far too long-winded, wasted my time

  • @SikanderG
    @SikanderG 3 роки тому +1

    I've noticed these plant-based diet promoting doctors are thin as a stick. I don't know the reason but it doesn't help the case. :P

    • @lesleymetthews4590
      @lesleymetthews4590 3 роки тому +7

      We're not designed to be heavy

    • @SikanderG
      @SikanderG 3 роки тому

      @@lesleymetthews4590 He's thinner than a lot of people. And there was another one like that too. They must be avoiding plant-based fats too like oil and stuff. Either that or it's a coincidence that these doctors all have skinny genes.

    • @Nada-adaN
      @Nada-adaN 3 роки тому +3

      @@SikanderG From other videos this doctor does not advocate consumption of oils.

    • @antonycomyns5026
      @antonycomyns5026 3 роки тому +13

      He looks a damn sight healthier than most men his age that are overweight with their gut hanging over there belts and a few mouthfuls away from a stroke.

    • @SikanderG
      @SikanderG 3 роки тому +3

      @@Nada-adaN That probably explains it. If he's having a low-fat plant-based diet, that probably explains his weird thinness.

  • @lad8087
    @lad8087 2 роки тому +1

    This is a lie

    • @eatpigsnot
      @eatpigsnot 2 роки тому

      you need to back that up. if you can i, and many others i assume, would be quite interested

    • @lad8087
      @lad8087 2 роки тому +1

      @@eatpigsnot hey. They first obvious point is that during the time he is talking about, humans did eat meat. So what evidence does he have that humans got all necessary b12 from soil, when they were also eating meat at the time? Humans hunted and ate animals at the time he claims we were living more “earth centered lives”

    • @eatpigsnot
      @eatpigsnot 2 роки тому

      @@lad8087 he did not say humans did not eat meat. also, just because humans ate animals, which were procured much differently than how we produce animal based food today, does not negate they were living "earth connected" (not centered) lives. the evidence humans got all the b12 needed is in the fact b12 comes from soil and soil comes into contact with everything we eat. the point he is making is for those who falsely believe we must eat animals to get b12. obviously we do not. and to show those who think animals actually make b12 why they are wrong. all your questions are answered in the clip. listen again. this time with no distractions. no petting the dog, no texting, etc... focus only on this for four minutes

    • @toni4729
      @toni4729 Рік тому

      @@eatpigsnot I'll back that up. Man made spears for a reason, and they didn't spear salads. If you can live on b12 from a vegetable diet anywhere in the world, advertise it. There has never ever been a natural vegan on this planet. That man is talking out of his bum.

    • @eatpigsnot
      @eatpigsnot Рік тому

      @@toni4729 you think humans eating animals is natural? everything about it is artificial. what do you mean by "natural vegan"? also, neither the Dr. in the video or i said we can live on, or even get b12 from a vegetable diet, which is nowhere near the same thing as eating whole foods plant based