Marshall JVM 410h vs Peavey 5150

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  • Опубліковано 3 вер 2021
  • Guitar is a Kramer Night Swan with a JB Pickup. Leo is playing guitar while I switch amps on a Radial Amp Switcher. Both amps are going through a Mesa 2x12 V30 cab.
    Recording quality is not great but its true in the room with an iphone. I will be doing high quality recordings in the future.

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  • @fortunatecookie9055
    @fortunatecookie9055 Рік тому +7

    I've never played a JVM, but I have a 5150 combo that I adore! I think this guy has the settings all screwed up on that 5150 because in my experience that amp has more brightness than I could ever use and here it sounds muddy. And this is coming from someone who loves a bright tone.

  • @VE17OM
    @VE17OM 2 роки тому +37

    JVM wins by far in my opinion

    • @ErrorlVlacro
      @ErrorlVlacro 2 роки тому

      It’s no wonder. Look at the settings. The bass and mids are at like 3 each. He does not apparently know how to dial a proper tone.

  • @lhzx
    @lhzx 2 роки тому +23

    5150 is perfect for certain types of metal. Its distortion is like sandpaper with coarse granularity. I don't like it for overdrive/clean because it can sound too rough. JVM distortion has fine granularity and it is a super versatile amp. From clean to od2 red, many tones are usable. These 2 amps do not replace each other.

    • @cap217cap217
      @cap217cap217  2 роки тому +1

      JVM in a mix sounds too compressed. I need to work on opening it up. Thats usually where the mids work.

    • @robertmazurowski5974
      @robertmazurowski5974 2 роки тому

      @@cap217cap217 It is difficult, I tried, Gave it almost 2 years, and Had to sell it. It had the sound, but lacked the dynamics.

  • @brownsparlour9813
    @brownsparlour9813 2 роки тому +8

    That jvm cuts through!!

  • @rickreynolds7255
    @rickreynolds7255 2 роки тому +15

    To my ears the JVM sounds much brighter, way more clarity - sounds like it would cut through the mix way better - the 5150 sounds dark, mushy, and quiet. Could just be the settings but that's how it came across to me. I vote JVM hands down.

    • @Batman-qd1sr
      @Batman-qd1sr 2 роки тому +2

      he has gain on the 5150 too high

    • @user-ck8pb2np5w
      @user-ck8pb2np5w 11 місяців тому +1

      IT SOUNDS WHAT ? QUIET ?
      I DO NOT KNOW , CAN CALL IT THAT WAY 🤭

  • @phantasmagora6542
    @phantasmagora6542 2 роки тому

    Good ol' Marshall crunch. Can't be beat.

  • @kingpriapatius5832
    @kingpriapatius5832 10 місяців тому

    Both amps sound great. I own a 6505.

  • @DanAdlingtonOnline
    @DanAdlingtonOnline Рік тому +1

    I own a Marshall JVM 410h. I have to say I think I made the right choice. It would be great to blend these tones and see what result is possible. Mesa Boogie is a great blending pair otherwise.

  • @Stitsel
    @Stitsel 2 роки тому +4

    I'm admittedly a Marshall guy through & through..... but when it came time that I could finally afford a new modern metal head, I tried various heads in a local GC in one sitting..... a 5150, a Dual Rectifier, a JVM 410H and a 100w DSL ...... the JVM blew my freaking socks off. It was tighter, more focused and aggressive sounding and I worked my way through the channels ( clean to crunch, onto OD1 & then OD2 etc. ) and up the gain stages....by the time I got to OD2 I was just like, forget it.... I'm done here .... I'll take it, right now!! Never looked back, and no need to either. To my ears, there's simply no comparison ..... and for those that prefer the darker thicker sound of say, a 5150 or whatever, just mess with the EQ & try out out OD2 & it can get you there .... or anywhere else. JVM all the way.

    • @tgchan
      @tgchan Рік тому

      do you still have it? Any update?

    • @Stitsel
      @Stitsel Рік тому +1

      @@tgchan I still have it, will always have it.Nothing to update, it still sounds glorious.

    • @tgchan
      @tgchan Рік тому

      @@Stitsel Thank you for the information/ I might get it soon. Which cab have you paired it with?

    • @Stitsel
      @Stitsel Рік тому +1

      @@tgchan a JCM800 Lead 1960A w/V30s, which sounds killer....but I'm thinking of getting a 1960B w/G12T-75s, for a bit more low end thump...but the V30s sound great

    • @tgchan
      @tgchan Рік тому

      @@Stitsel yea I am thinking about BV or B with t-75s. Can't really listen to them in person and can't be arsed ordering two,heaving them, testing and then send one back. Ideally I would love to keep both lol. I am all for thump, doesn't even have to be low end. But palm mutes need to punch like Chinese kung fu mastesr/

  • @adriansienczak3551
    @adriansienczak3551 2 роки тому +4

    Hi, nice one... which one do you recommend buying to get mostly good rock/metal distortion sound ? Or just a like a single amp overall ? I know this peavey from ultimate metal sound and cut through the mix with solos. I've just discovered jvm410h and i'm confused. I have also 2x12 on evm 12l closed-opened back and I'm looking for "in your face" amp before I have to change everything on PC and phones. Pickups are passive dimarzio super distortion on the bridge.
    Regards !

    • @cap217cap217
      @cap217cap217  2 роки тому +1

      5150 is more fizzy and saturated. The JVM can sound good on a few channels. The 5150 is more of a 1 trick amp. The JVM can be programmed with midi and save all your settings. Hard choice. Its whatever sounds good to you.

    • @lhzx
      @lhzx 2 роки тому +2

      If you don't play extreme metal (black/death/nu prog) and sometimes use clean and overdrive, I would definitely recommend the JVM.

  • @TheGgreen100
    @TheGgreen100 2 роки тому +16

    5150's can sound much better than that.
    You set the 5150's Gain on 8. You can get saturated face melting tones with a 5150's Gain on 3 or 4. Setting it to 8 makes the amp into unplayable mush. Set it to 5 or maybe 6 at the absolute max. 8 is insane. Also, turn the Presence up. Current setting is WAY too dark. A 5150's Presence doesn't really even start to do anything until around 6 or 7. Set it somewhere between 7 and 9 for clarity. No wonder the Marshall kills it here.

    • @K707OR30
      @K707OR30 2 роки тому +2

      This guy 5150s

  • @alisabbagh8242
    @alisabbagh8242 2 роки тому +3

    Hmmm Master volume on the 5150 isnt helping the tone. It opens up a whole lot at around at 9 oclock. before that you get alot of the crosstalk around the effects loop.

  • @JBGoode-zx7pp
    @JBGoode-zx7pp Рік тому +1

    The Marshall kerrang!

  • @Bridging_the_Political_Divide
    @Bridging_the_Political_Divide 2 роки тому +6

    No contest at all...JVM. I bought a used 5150 years ago, had it a week, resold it. Not impressed. JVM walks it here...

  • @Darth.Shredder
    @Darth.Shredder Рік тому +1

    Man, this comparison wasn't even close. IMO the JVM destroyed that 5150. Was it dialed in properly? Old tubes?

  • @cornfilledscreamer614
    @cornfilledscreamer614 2 роки тому +2

    I've got a 410H and a Peavey Invective. I can't even begin to explain how much better the Invective sounds than the 410. Not. Even. Close.

  • @jaymesmustaine684
    @jaymesmustaine684 Рік тому

    Are the eq settings the same? If not it’s an unfair fight. But I’ll take my Orange over either of them!

  • @Skoora
    @Skoora 11 місяців тому

    Mids were set pretty low on the 5150. Need to be at least 1-2 O’Clock.

  • @mannyfragoza9652
    @mannyfragoza9652 2 роки тому

    Marshall is more of my tone The new 5150 might be a challenge to the Marshall ?

  • @wabisabi7399
    @wabisabi7399 Рік тому

    Mode on the JVM?

  • @alexanderwald2046
    @alexanderwald2046 3 місяці тому

    why cut the 5150 mids so drastically? beats the purpose of the amp

  • @OG96932
    @OG96932 2 роки тому +3

    Marshall by far.. has a better tone, more depth, more clarity.. more noticeable sound than the peavy

  • @podhditalia
    @podhditalia 2 роки тому +1

    5150 is set too dark here, and maybe too much gain on the both of them. Sounds mushy

  • @borges3099
    @borges3099 2 роки тому +1

    the 5150's EQ is awful, doesn't do it justice. Back the gain off a bit, lows on 6, highs 7ish, resonance is fine, presence 7.5. Post gain 2 minimum (yeah it's loud but that's where 5150/6505's open up)

  • @crsantin
    @crsantin 2 роки тому +2

    The Marshall sounds great here. The settings on the 5150 are messed up, almost intentionally to skew the outcome. My 5150 doesn’t sound like this. This one sounded muddy. Something wrong here.

  • @TheManglerPolishDeathMetal
    @TheManglerPolishDeathMetal 3 місяці тому

    you should set both at 12 and then compare

  • @ErrorlVlacro
    @ErrorlVlacro 2 роки тому

    Dude. Why are your mids and low almost down to zero???

    • @cap217cap217
      @cap217cap217  2 роки тому

      Because the guy who was playing set the amps like he likes them. And we are using V30s.

  • @streamofconsciousness5826
    @streamofconsciousness5826 14 днів тому

    iPhone mic prefers the Marshall. The Peavey sounds like a Peavey. They don't like the Sparkle and Brass Marshall excels at.

  • @GuvnaOnSpotify
    @GuvnaOnSpotify 2 роки тому +2

    The JVM would've been even better if you'd have used the OD1 orange channel

    • @cap217cap217
      @cap217cap217  2 роки тому +3

      You think? Vs a 5150 I think red is more comparable. I can do it in the future. I have a 205h modded to try out.

    • @GuvnaOnSpotify
      @GuvnaOnSpotify 2 роки тому +2

      @@cap217cap217 Not sure, but certainly worth comparing - I'd watch. I mainly suggested it as the amber mode on OD1 is where the JVM shines. OD2 is nowhere near as good.

    • @Magnetorr
      @Magnetorr 2 роки тому +1

      Totally, is the channel I use most and for me at least is the best one for metal or hard rock music. For leads I just use OD2 with more high, middle and volume settings or just the OD1 orange with a TS9.

    • @bbck15
      @bbck15 2 роки тому +2

      @@cap217cap217 OD2 has the mids shifted lower than OD1. 500hz vs 650hz I believe

    • @mjmetal1989
      @mjmetal1989 2 роки тому +1

      @@cap217cap217 Rabea Masaad likes his JVM and plays some heavy high gain stuff and I get the impression from his video that he thinks the red channel is too much and sticks it the orange channel

  • @rareform6747
    @rareform6747 10 місяців тому

    The JVM pedal switching is TITS 💫

  • @mattyounis5636
    @mattyounis5636 2 роки тому +1

    Marshall all the way

  • @williamdesilva67
    @williamdesilva67 2 роки тому +1

    Marshall wins .... not even close

  • @The_Bass_Stunters
    @The_Bass_Stunters 2 роки тому +1

    This isn’t a real comparison.

  • @chasingtone5748
    @chasingtone5748 2 роки тому

    JVM

  • @stefanorock1574
    @stefanorock1574 Рік тому

    Jvm win

  • @baccambatube
    @baccambatube 2 роки тому +1

    better Marshall

  • @raimoihander1380
    @raimoihander1380 11 місяців тому

    No on eroa!

  • @mainesstation2609
    @mainesstation2609 2 роки тому +3

    Wierd the marshall sounds better im a 5150 6505 guy to

    • @cap217cap217
      @cap217cap217  2 роки тому +1

      Listening back I think the 5150 has the mids too low and the bass up too much which makes it sound bad on the microphone.

    • @Magnetorr
      @Magnetorr 2 роки тому +4

      In the rehearsal local we have both JVM410H (mine) and a 6505+ from a friend, using the same cabs (Marshall 1960A with G12) sounds darker and meaner. The JVM sounds brighter which makes it tastier for riffing, at least for me haha

    • @mainesstation2609
      @mainesstation2609 2 роки тому

      @@Magnetorr i guess frequency is always different over the internet i know when you record and export your tracks you always loose high frequency.. i like that Marshall tho sounds good..

    • @suffersystemstudios
      @suffersystemstudios 2 роки тому

      @@Magnetorr Gotta go with the classic 6 6 6 EQ bud

    • @Magnetorr
      @Magnetorr 2 роки тому +2

      @@suffersystemstudios And OD1 even sounds better! (This video is on JVM's OD2 channel).

  • @Batsinthebelltower
    @Batsinthebelltower 25 днів тому

    the 5150 can sound MUCH better than that