Marshall JCM 2000 DSL50 vs DSL100! (OLD vs NEW)
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
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Timecodes:
00:00 Introduction (Watch First!)
03:47 Classic Gain Clean Tone Comparison
05:44 Classic Gain Clean Tone Comparison Isolated
07:19 Classic Gain Crunch Tone Comparison
09:26 Classic Gain Crunch Tone Comparison Isolated
10:49 Ultra Gain OD1 Rock Tone Comparison
13:07 Ultra Gain OD1 Rock Tone Comparison Isolated
14:56 Ultra Gain OD2 Metal Tone Comparison
16:50 Ultra Gain OD2 Metal Tone Comparison Isolated
18:22 Conclusion
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I didn't take any chances so I bought both. I now have the entire Marshall 50 to 100 watt range of heads. Btw, I just turned 77 on Feb. 11 and still rockin'!🙂
Damn, you're more than twice my age, and I probably ain't gonna live to 40. More power to you though, so long as you can still rock out. If I made it to 77, I wouldn't be able to see or hear, much less use my fingers.
That would be a mind blowing collection of Marshall's to own. Like a Marshall museum in your own home and you get to play them all as much as you want .
@@adamwatson6916 Yeah, that is quite the collection. I had something like that, just not all Marshalls, back when my home studio was bigger and not just for me. Once covid came, I started doing work from home shit for an eye doctor in Newark because bands weren't coming to record, so I had to REALLY thin the herd. I converted the old studio to be lived in and moved what was left of the gear to my living room, since nobody ever used the living room anyway.
Now I have 5 amps and maybe 8 or 9 cabs. Even with that, I only really play through one amp - a hot-rodded Peavey Classic 30 head - and one of two cabs. Oh, I also have a Frenzel preamp and a compression pedal, going to the effects return of a solid state bass amp and a Peavey bass cab with a 15" Black Widow. So technically 6 amps and 10 cabs.
I don't want more, I'd like to get rid of one and replace it with an old DSL201 (pr maybe 401) combo though. I like those.
B.A. 😎
So which one is the one to have if you want to spend $1000 or under?
@@adamwatson6916 I've been buying selling and collecting them since the early 1960s. Gibson and Fender guitars too.
I've said it so many times, the original JCM 2000 DSL line, especially the 50 watt, is one Marshall that will forever stay in my collection.
Mine too. So will my JCM TSL 100 and all the accompanying Marshall 4x4 cabs.
Just found a 2005 JCM 2000 DSL. Did they have many issues or common things to watch out for?
Mine too. Dollar for dollar, pound for pound I think it's the best rock/blues rock amp Marshall ever built.
After many years of birthday amp upgrades as a teenager, I arrived at owning a DSL50 H and slanted 4x12 cab by the age of 15. Man. I miss that amp. and that cab. The green channel on crunch setting was heaven. I'm thinking of looking for one to keep in the studio now. Anyways. Just wanted to agree with your comment.
Both sound good in fact some of the best tones you've ever laid down. Tight, chunky, plenty of gain and there is no substitute for Marshall mids.
They both sound so close and both sound great. If I’m choosing though, it would be the JCM 2000. Love that warmer sound.
Dsl100 sounds almost solid state without bounce
For that warmer sound, all you'd have to do is replace the tubes and it'll sound just as good or better than the JCM 2000....plus you wouldn't have the bias and horrible reverb problems that the JCM 2000s are famous for.
@@msaintpc trying to decide between the two right now; what tubes would you recommend replacing, the whole set or just power or pre.. etc haha
@@davevanconant7488 Mullard El34/EL34, /EL84, RCA 6L6GC, Genalex KT66.
Great comparison. I recently ordered a DSL100 (still waiting...) Thank you for confirming my decision!!! Keep up the excellent work!
Great vid! I've loved my JCM 2000 DSL100 for almost 20 year now, it has remained a set piece in the collection. The deep switch issue with either "not enough" or "too much" low end sounded very familliar. My fix was having an amp tech replace the standard switch with a pot that replaces resistor R43. Gives you the chance to fine tune it, instead of the all or nothing situation
That's a really great idea, I should have that done to mine! Do you think the Tone Shift could be replaced with a pot as well?
Like with the Deep switch, pressing the Tone Shift switch produces way too severe of an effect but I bet it could be really nice if you could slowly dial it in.
I've been thinking of doing this mod myself.
Any more info on where/how to do that mod?
I did that mod as well. Super simple and improves the amp for very little cost.
Another nice feature is if we select deep just for overdrive red channel, the clean doesnt need this
This is an awesome review/ comparison. Thank you 🙏🏽
The acoustic part of this video gave me a King Diamond 💎 vibe. Great video John. Cheers 🍻
Another great video man. The differences between the 2 amps are as you described but I really dare anyone to listen the sounds without looking the video and paying attention ultra close attention for minuscule differences (that simply don't matter) and say which amp is which with a straight face. Great amps both of them
I was thinking about getting a Marshall and this helps me a lot man ! Thanks 🙏
This was great, been DSL fan for a very long time. JCM2000 50 owner. Was curious about the newer ones, which of course fixes some of the so called issues with the originals. I always thought that my JCM2000 100 DSL sounded slightly different to the 50. The 100 sounded bigger some how. Good job sir...
Both sound awesome, but to me, the newer DSL 100 sounds slightly tighter in the mix than the older one, but both sound killer for high gain licks. Great job as always Jon. Keep up the fantastic work.
Replace the tubes and the fatness returns.
I always loved the "DSL sound" and this video showcases the reason why. I like the DSL100 more, the OG is too vintage and flabby for me. and well done Jon, yet an other superb video! I keep coming back to your channel and you never disappoint. ;-)
I agree.
Great vid as always! They sound very similar. I own a DSL50 and if it ever took a dump I would be content with a DSL100.
I agree with just about everything you've said about both amps and I might be biased because I already own a 1999 jcm 2000dsl 100, but they both sound so similar and you can't go wrong with either one. Great vid like always, keep 'em comin' \m/
Thank you for playing CLEAN. This shows the full range of the amp which is why i'm looking at it
Awesome demo man! I was hoping this was going to be a comparison of the DSL100H vs. the DSL100H R
I watch at least a video a day now of yours . Love your channel and room
Thanks! I just recorded a tour of my studio :)
I've had both. Everyone talks about the gain but they have an underated clean sound. Current main amp is a Rockerverb but it ALWAYS changes man
Congratulations! Amazing video
Ha! The clean part reminded me of King Diamond's Black Horsemen! :-D
Excellent video once again, Jon!
Thanks for another great vid bud !!!!
Your demonstration riffs really slap!
Great comparison and playing! The new one hits harder bit seems a bit "tin-y". Old one has a nice creamy coating to its tones. For the price the new one's pretty good though.
No matter how much I get into modern high gain tones, I'll probably always keep my JMP 2204 around. I'm thinking of getting the Hot Mod replacement preamp tube mod for it for more variety, too. There's something great about Marshall tones through the different generations. Thanks for posting the great comparison. 8)
I think pedals on top of the JMP will do the trick sufficiently for metal. Overdrive/distortion, EQ and noise gate will get it done for you without having to change the character of the actual amp
Good comparison!
Looking forward to either a 50W-50W or 100W-100W side by side comparison. 2 vs 4 output tubes makes a significant difference in saturation and tightness/stiffness on higher volumes.
The difference because of the wattage isn't huge in this case. I'm not completely cranking them up so the powertubes aren't really saturating.
Another excellent vid! They are close in sound, but I definitely like the JCM 2000 more, likely because of the more vintage voicing. I have both a DSL 50 and a DSL40 and I like the 50 more. But my tastes run a bit more old school.
JCM 2000 for me here. Just sounds warmer and more well rounded.
I bought the DSL100HR last December and I absolutely love it. It now sits next to my Invective 120 and multi-watt Triple Rectifier as my 3 favorite amps I own. I love how modern it sounds while still having that Marshall character. I've got a simple Ibanez TS and Boss NS-2 setup in front of it and it hangs with the Invective for the more modern metalcore and djenty stuff. It's quite versatile, even with just the two button footswitch. I don't use the tone switch button because I'd rather just swap to my Triple Rec for the scooped sound, but I get why its there and it's probably a really useful feature for someone that doesn't have multiple amps. I don't use the built in Reverb either, but again probably a nice feature for someone without a reverb pedal or just wants a simplified setup.
The only things I don't like about the amp, and they're pretty insignificant, is that the tolex kind of looks like plastic and the Marshall logo is a bit small when compared to other Marshalls. Both of these points are very noticeable in your video with the JCM 2000 stacked on top of the DSL100HR. The glossy look of the DSL tolex is a little strange compared to the more matte/leathery look on the JCM. Also the DLS100 logo being tiny and sort of hidden while the JCM logo is massive and easy to identify the amp. Could be a spacing issue, but it just feels like they're being shy about the DSL name while the older brother and the UK amps display what model they are proudly. These are just complaints about cosmetic choices though, nothing about sound, quality, etc.
That's an unholy trinity of great amps right there!
So I have a Mesa Badlander and a JP2C that I want to run either of these amps with, and I want to capture more of that Nuno tone rather than the High gain per se more modern stuff; obv like you I have that covered with the other amps. Would I be better off then with the 2000? Like Nuno does throw a Rat in front of it for the more percussive attack and play?
i gotta hand it to u that was the most entertaining clean song ive heard in a long time. wow
I have a DSL100H from around 2005 - great amp. Am considering getting one of the new DSL40CRs and the upgraded 6 footswitch. I like the idea of being able to switch between modes in each channel. Also a little bit more portable!
I like 100h Better than newer ones. Is more fixable too
the 50w has slightly clearer sound which I prefer, small thing matter in the long run. Great video!!
Wow, I didn't think the difference would be so subtle! The DSL50 does sound a bit "glassier" than the 100, but I do prefer the 100 overall.
I love the riffs of your videos
Great review
I have been loving the JCM800 models in my FM3 with the York Audio M25 IRs. I use an 57m and 313 mix and it sounds incredible. I've been looking at maybe getting a real amp, and the JCM2000 seems like a great choice. I'm concerned about the Marshall cabs that all have T75s in them, as I love the sound with greenbacks and they'd be expensive to replace in a 412.
Excellent demo 🎸
great video. love the channel. Can you do a comparison between the DSL100HR and the JVM410 please!
as for the jcm2000 and the DSL, biggest difference i noticed between them when i had both amps was that the EQ knobs are a lot more responsive/sensitive on the new 100.
not as subtle and could cover a wider range. if i had the space i would have kept both amps, but for me DSL100HR was the better choice.
turn the resonance all the way up on both and they sound almost identical.
the master volumes on the new 100 make it extra versatile, especially if you get the 6 button footswitch.
I run my two JCM 100w 2000's from the Tom Scholz X-100 in stereo into 1960 cabs ...Just Amazing 💥 Next do same wattage comparisons ?
As always great video! I have the older DSL 100. Shockingly right now I prefer it over my Mesa dual rectifier and my 5150.. both of the ladder amps I use a TS nine with. No need for additional boost pedal on my DSL. I slightly prefer the older DSL as it seems more pleasant in the mix.
Dude, I have a dsl 100 uk too. Mine is the black limited version, 2009. Did you compared with jcm800 and older amps? Thanks.
I regret getting rid of my JCM2000 DSL50. I didn't understand how to use the amp. Also didn't understand how the deep button actually worked. I found if you engage the deep and then back off the bass on the eq it works amazing!! Been thinking of getting another one.
I will never part with my year 2000 made JCM2000 DSL100. I've owned tons of amps over the years, but that one has never even crossed my mind to get rid of! It's one of the most versatile amps out there, and has been a staple for recording studios and backlines for a reason!
I had one years ago. I wouldn’t hesitate to replace if I was amp shopping. Great versatile amp!
just picked up a 2005 JSM 2000 DSL 100 for my home studio arsenal. Glad to hear I made the right choice. Any common issues to watch out for?
@@jroc6166 depending on what year your amp was made, there is some discussion about faulty boards, transformers, or something like that. But between the 5 or 6 that my bandmates and i have owned over the last 6 years, we've NEVER had any issues. Be warned that it's a very bright amp, I usually run the presence below 3 if the volume is above 2 or 3 (which is already insanely loud) lol.
@@jroc6166 I just realized you said it was from 2005, lol, sorry dude I'm an idiot. IF for any reason you find out that was a problematic year with that amp, there are literally TONS of techs out there who can resolve those issues. But like I said, I've been around 6 of them consistently ( ranging from various years) for years now and never witnessed any problems. And we'd CRANK those muthafuckas!!!! Also, most of the time people who piss and moan about gear on forums are usually snobs who just need something to bitch about. 🤣 Hope this was helpful, you have an incredible amp that I recommend never getting rid of 🤘🤘🤘
@@dizzyastr989 All good, and thank you. Much appreciated.
Turning the deepswitch on and rolling the bass knob back at around 9:30 'o clock and a boost infront is key to a thick high gain sound on the JCM. Definitely like the JCM 50 better, im biased though haha
Hit the nail on the head.
This is gonna be interesting. I've got the JCM 2000 DSL 50 and I've never had the chance to compare it directly to the new DSLs.
I hope you enjoy it! I tried to dial them in to sound kinda similar. By default with everything at noon the DSL100HR sounds brighter but with a more solid low end.
Great job all around, as always. My only constructive criticism would be that you could have flipped the 100HR into 50w mode (Standby switch Low setting ) for a bit more of an even playing field.
50w modes on 100 watters change the tone due to triode operation vs pentode, so it’s still not really a full comparison… I’ve always found the half power modes to lack any balls, whereas the actual 50 watt amps sound great
The JCM2000 100watt was my touring amp in the late 90s. No longer have it and wish I did, though honestly way more power than I need these days. Great amp though.
The DSL series is fantastic. My dsl20 is by far my favorite amp. Some of the best amps for the money out there hands down!
I bought the 100HR about two years ago when the head was only $900 and I really like it. Now it’s $1250. Still worth the price I’d say.
Positively love the old 2000s. Have a TSL60H that just sounds like nothing else I've tried and saturates enough for anything with an OD in front. As bright or as deep as I want, as barky or scooped, it'll do it
I myself have always liked the TSL60 over the dsl50 both in tone and flexability
The newer one sounds a tad bit thinner, but overall they both sound great.
Replace the tubes and you'll have a better sounding amp than the JCM 2000.
@@msaintpcwhich are the tubes you suggest?
I agree.
I lost track of which I prefer for what, either way, it's really close, and I'd be really happy with either amp. Great tones overall!
For my ears the 50 watt was the winner - great demo tracks your versatile playing is very enjoyable
had an old 50W dsl2000. i liked it, but found i couldn't settle on a shared eq and really wanted to have a nicer clean. but, for straight out rock, they sound killer. especially in a two guitar band, along side a boogie rec. they complement each other so nicely. thought about doing a duel amp vid? nice playing as usual.
oh, and green backs, should have tried them with my old amp. grown very fond of them. the stock 75's in marshall cabs are bright and brittle sounding. my cab has 2x 75's and 2 x v30's. think i might swap out the 75's to green backs
I have owned the TSL 100, bought a brand new in the box JCM2000 DSL 100 and currently own the DSL100 HR...I prefer this DSL 100HR HANDS DOWN!!
The TSL could do a lot but had no real voice that stood out...the JCM DSL just couldn't deliver the drive I wanted , sounded very boxy to me at the time.....the 100HR is just such a more fire breather but can be backed off that it is a win for me...the 100HR even sounds good in the 50w mode
They both sound good and very similar. To my ears, the JCM 2000 has a little more boldness, while the modern DSL has an ever-so-slight "blanket over the speakers" effect. But it's very subtle and could just be the EQ anyway. The Resonance button is a nice feature on the modern one, as opposed to the all-or-nothing approach of the Deep switch on the JCM 2000.
The only other difference I noticed is that the JCM 2000 seems to have a touch more transparency.
both sounded great. i already have 100hr and want 2000 too :)
the clean riff took me back to never neverland. jeff waters always had the the marshall sound.
A head-to-head comparison between the DSL20HR and SC20H would be really interesting.
i believe Johan Segeborn has done a comparison of those on his youtube channel.
I just bought a '04 JCM2000 100W, and I've had the DSL100HR for a while now and for the most part I am right there with you.
The only difference for me is that I prefer the Crunch Channel on the DSL100HR. I turn it on and get a nice Angus Young tone on tap with little to no effort.
I definitely feel that the Spring Reverb on the JCM2000 is far and away much better than the Digital Reverb on the DSL100HR, as you said it is very subtle.
I think there is more gain on tap with the JCM2000, and it doesn't break up quite as much between 7 and 10 like the DSL. I'm running an MXR 10 Band EQ through the FX Loop of my DSL that boosts my gain that I also use to shape my lows and mids that I never use for the JCM.
I think it really boils down to what you have also said; the JCM has a rounder more vintage tone whereas the DSL is tighter and much more modern sounding.
Sometimes I use an MXR Micro Amp on both which tends to sound pretty sweet, but again, if I push the DSL100HR too hard it starts getting muddy. The JCM2000 takes it like a champ.
Of course I just sat around and EQ'd both amps with the same riffs and guitar. More or less found a nice setting for both amps that stayed tight, but played to the strengths of either amp. The DSL is tighter, and the JCM has a killer low end.
I guess the gain is about the same, it's just how they are voiced. After messing around with them, you can get killer complementary sound.
Honestly I just want to set these up in stereo.
They both were very delicious...but I took an extra bite of the DSL50. Thank you
Both great, JCM 2000 sounds more like what in my mind is a Marshall. Less bite and softer attack with the old 50 watter. The DSL heavy sound moves into Recto territory. Like he says, the more gain, the bigger the difference. That would be the preamp section, I guess.
great comparison. I got the previous DSL100H and I'm quite happy with it.. I don't know how it is different in EQ from these two. I played the jcm2000 100w once, and I remember it was quite close to mine. Between the two in this video I would prefer the jcm2000 dsl 50w. Volume a bit more manageble (100w is too loud) and I think it should be a bit less heavy.. I also like more the vintage tone...
The interesting thing is that the volume on the 100HR is easier to manage.
On Neumann KH120's through a recording interface, they sound pretty close. Though, I personally. liked the DSL100 more.. but that was the tonality and inherant compresssion that could be easily matched between the two.
Listening again through a pair of HD650s and an SPL headphone amp I noticed a difference in the after tranisent fizz as the chords died out.. the 100 had a more pleasant less noisy handle on that..
Oh and the 100 had more body in the crunch demo.. subtle but there
I only listened to the Crunch, Rock and Metal isolated comparisons
They sound very similar to me. Slightly different mid focus. Both sound great in each demo.
Yeah you can dial them in to sound quite similar, as I did here. With everything at noon the old one sounds warmer and less bright. The DSL100HR has more cut and bite and a more modern low end.
100 sounds more modern mentioned, different mids slightly and definitely more compressed. Also has a small amount more punch on certain riffs, the low end is tighter
Yup! Good ear :)
Digging the 100 as it's a little tighter but both sound great.
I’d like to see a comparison with the 100w in half power mode. I own the DSL100 and my fellow band mate owned the DSL50. The half power mode gives IMHO more tube compression.
Hey Jon, you always mention you match the York IR's to the specific amps you use. Question, how do you determine which has the best match other than the IR being within the similar domain as the amps. Honestly, I had a chance to demo the DSL100 through a 1960A cab with greenbacks and the tones are not to my liking, however, the IR's sounded good in your comparison I have to admit. The JCM2000 is too vintage for me, I lean toward the DSL100 in your comparison. Thanks!
OG DSL for me. Still confused as to why it was such a hated amp back in the day. It's a backline dream amp.
Marshall solved the bias drifting problem by coming out with a later version mainboard that made this amp really scream.I had to shelve my JCM 2000 dsl100 for a few years till the bias drifting problem was finally solved.I bought a Crate Blue Voodoo BV 100 to replace my DSL100.What a mistake that was.I finally bit my tongue,and bought another JCM2000 DSL100 which was a later model.But it still had issues,but not like the first one.
the 2000 DSL was good, but the TSL was better IMO, but yeh I agree they were great amps, not sure the hatred comes from
@@jacksmith4460 ,The hatred came from the bias drifting mainboard.Marshall shouldve recalled all the DSL and TSL amps to replace the mainboards.From what I understand they would replace it while you waited at the marshall factory in england.But they would replace it with the old revision,which it would eventually go bad too.Unfortunetly the marshall service centers in the US didnt have that luxury.Finally Marshall came out with a new mainboard,and that finally solved the problem.You have no idea what its like to drop $1000 on a new amp,and have it go bad in a few months.Thats what happened to me.Even the marshall service center could not fix it.They gave it back to me unfixed.It went into the closet for a years.I bought a Crate Blue Voodoo BVH 100.It was so bad.I gave up guitar playing for a few years.I still have the Blue Voodoo but it terrible.I made a big mistake.
You r one of the best players on the net bud !👍👍
I have a dsl 2000 50w in the same clean condition i bought it broken and i just updated the motherboard for the latest revision and fitted brand new JJ tubes i now have a rock solid amp in great condition. Its the condition of the amp which made me buy it. I also have the DSL5R head as i wanted something i could run without the use of a attenuator as they can take too much away from the tone unless you buy super expensive so i have to add some EQ. I love both amps. I sat the dsl5 on top of a MG15 mini stack. Which i never really liked . I fits perfectly and i upgraded the speakers to vintage 30's . I do how ever love the marshall MG100 dfx which is a much better sounding amp than the little 15w version.
damn bro you got quite a decent setup, I love the JCM 900 4100. just my opinion.
Both sound marvellous! In my opinion the JCM 2000 DSL 50 is the best blues rock amp ever made, and the DSL100 is the best hard rock amp out there today.
Much prefer the 50, I like the tight low end of the 100 but the more scooped sound doesn’t sit well with me.
50 is just more round and clear to me without the added harshness of the 100. Great shootout!
Would love a video comparing the JCM2000 vs the JVM
I think the 2000 is more cold/harsh on the clean, and the DSL more cold/harsh on the crunch. On lead 1 the JCM is maybe a bit more forward. In lead 2 the DSL is kinda more open, and the JCM a bit rounder. But all in all they are VERY similar. And intrimning you could tweak them in eachother. Maybe so because of the 20 years difference.
I own a DSL100hr and was looking for a JCM2000, But don’t think it’s worth the money. The circuits seems the same and it’s more about what speakers you use. Both amps is just as good! It all comes down to if you want to buy a new, or if your budget is more at a used older one.
Thanks Jon for sorting that out. Great and helpful vid👍🏻
The DSL100 in the Ultra Gain OD1 section... man that's exactly the desirable rock tone, such good playing. The DSL50 sounds preferable for the lower gain crunch stuff.
But then I'm liking the DSL50 in the metal section... peculiar!
last song was very dope too! i do fusion stuff like that too but im actually jealous of that chord progression cuz i have songs like it but u did it better in this one 😔😉
I prefer the JCM in all clips. In the more saturated sounds, both in crunch and lead mode, the JCM 2000 while returning a level of gain equal to the DSL allows a better intelligibility of the single notes that make up the chords.
Unfortunately, the problems of the JCM are others, certainly not the sound. My 2002 JCM 100 is giving me problems with the bias drift which, however, can be solved because it has been talked about in many forums and solving kits are sold at low prices.
I honestly didn't expect to hear much of a difference, and if I did, I figured I'd prefer the newer one. HA!
The 2002 DSL sounded so much more "creamy", with rounder edges and slightly more pronounced mids.
I wonder if you could EQ the new DSL100 to be indistinguishable in a blind test from the '50? Maybe an Echoplex or something similar in front (at unity gain -- just for the tone shaping) would do the trick?
Interesting, I liked the 50 a lot better. The lower mids are just much more to my liking.
Something in the DSL100 sounded a bit papery or hollow to me, if that makes sense. Maybe the slight accentuation around 2kHz makes the lower frequencies seem a bit more receded.
Thanks for the comparison.
Have you had the 50 watts serviced? The filter caps (and maybe cathode caps) could be changed if they're 20 years.
I often forget that I'm listening to the difference between amps and i end up just jamming the tune you have written for the demo. Lol
I’ve would of liked to hear a JCM 2000 100w instead of the 50w , more fair I guess.
Because I have a 2004 100w JCM 2000 and it sounds amazing, especially the clean tone
It was signed by Jim Marshall too all 3 pieces.
Great video tho… thanks for sharing
Cheers 🤘
50 vs 100 doesn't matter, the dsl100 has a 50watt Switch.
Fantastic video. I prefer the JCM 2000 overall. I find the DSL can have more of a 'fizzy' high gain character in certain contexts.
I gotta say, your playing and tones are always fantastic but your drum sound is one thing that really gets my attention too. Are these live drums or are you using something like Superior Drummer?
Programmed! That was Steven Slate Drums
I have a DSL100HR and nothing beats it. I keep buying used gear to try things out and when I find something that is better i will keep it. This thing is better than Mesa Boogie TC-50, MARK V, Orange Rockerverb 1, Orange OR15, Marshall jcm800 (20W),etc... Until I find something that is better I am keeping this.
Thanks, i got a 50 thanks to this vid, prefer the more vintage sound
I just purchased the 2000, (2007), youre right, the low end is lacking, a lot, did you also find there a lot less gain in crunch mode compared to the 1000H?
Which is supposed to be the difference between these two and the jvm satriani model in the gain hi gain profile? Thanks
The old one was a wirey/chiminess to the upper mids that I prefer. Noticeable in the jazzy chords during the high gain demo.
The DSL100 sounds sharper and has less low end and low mids (the low end sounds almost like a boosted Marshall), but in a mix, they sound very similar, which makes sense, as we have the same amp here, but two different iterations of it.
Hey brother that little tolex rip on the 50 W is driving me nuts get a little Super Glue put it on that tolex and fix it ps love your UA-cam channel
I have a new DSL20h that sometimes I play through my old TSL2000 60w combo. Well, I find the DSL clean to be clearer and brighter, compared to the TSL, and more pedal friendly. On the dirty side, the DSL sounds even more Marshall than my TSL, which is not necessarily something good every time, but with less flexibility but easier integration with newer equipment, I'd keep the DSL if it were the case...
Of course, I would not gig with neither... But that's only me.
Great comparison! Pity they both weren’t 100W since there is a slight difference between a 50W and a 100W.
Man I need that HR.
Obviously very similar amps, whose slight variations may be attributed more to the differences in wattage rather than preamp design.
DSL 100 sounded generally a bit more compressed in all channels, and sounded generally tighter and bolder in high gain settings, especially OD2. The JCM 2000 was slightly more vintage voiced, and sweeter sounding. I'd be happy with either, they're very close, but given the choice I'd probably go with the modern DSL for the extra bit of tweakability.
Brilliant Talented Tasteful video as always
They both sound good.