Fantastic idea man, I also thought about that, I unfortunately don’t have a Soldano, but I can imagine the two amps sounding remarkable together even though they are amazing on their own already.
FINALLY somebody that goes into this rabbit hole properly, really hyped for this series, much respect!👏👏👏 i would love to hear a 5150 with a rectifier i heard they sound good together also would be cool to hear the 2 amps in mono, so for example you could have 2 performances played with 2 different combination of amps in a single mix
I think the 5150 and rectifier might be the most popular combo, 5150 has that super direct upper midrange, rectifier has the lows, and both have a shitload of gain pardon my French
Hi Rabea, some troubleshooting tips for the ground loop(s): First of all, what’s the exact signal path? Is it guitar > pedalboard > split out to both amps? Anything in the fx loops of each amp? I’m assuming the pedalboard can lift the ground on one of the outputs going to the front ends of the amps. The first thing i’d try is run both heads through real cabs and eliminate the load boxes and see if you get ground loop hum like this. Using the Lehle or any other iso box/hum destroyer device in line on either side, you can ground lift either of the lines going into the front end of each amp to see if this removes any hum at this stage if there is any hum. If there’s no hum when using real cabs, introduce a loadbox to one amp and see if this adds any ground loop. I’d be surprised if this did given that you’re using balanced lines from loadbox to interface, unless one of the loadboxes has a ground lift switch that’s pressed down when it doesn’t need to be, which might cause the hum. If adding the first loadbox doesn’t add hum, introduce the next loadbox and see if that adds hum. If that doesn’t, it’s probably happening at the front end stage. Or if anything is going into either fx loop, you might have an issue there that needs a ground lift. Another test would be to have both amps with loadboxes, but with nothing plugged into the front ends of either amp, and with both amps set to high gain so you just hear amp hiss. If there’s no hum like that, it’s definitely a front end issue that just needs one side to be ground lifted. I wonder also if there’s a power source issue, but if all the gear is powered by the same outlet then probably not. Also a few ideas for the next video of this series. Try running two tube screamers or other combinations of dirt pedals in parallel (one to each amp) so each amp has a slightly different signal path. This can get closer to a more double tracked feel. Also, i’m hearing slight latency on the JVM side so the overall effect is that the 5150 side arrives sooner (i don’t mean the short milisecond ambience added to the tone, just the fact that the 5150 sounds faster).
My suggestion is to do something Hetfield style, scooped 80s/90s style tone blended with a nice compressed Diezel giving some defined mids and some chewy saturated low-end. Seems to be a similar thing to blend two different styles. My favorite non-metal tone is Billie Joe Armstrong's who does a similar thing. Modded 59 Plexi that's closer to maybe a lower-gain classic JCM800 and set pretty clean and straight up, and then another 59 Plexi that's got a more metal-y gain structure with more gain for a big scooped saturated low end. So you get the cleaner super punchy midrange response and cut of the first amp, and all the big sustain and palm muting saturation and sizzle from the second amp, all through V30s.
I think you needed more presence on the 5150. That’s why there was hardly note definition. Additionally, adding the TS9 to the 5150 would prolly have tightened it up a bit.
I use a TAE with my MKV and the Captor 8ohm with my MKIIB C300 I’m using a radial Big Shot ABY so that I don’t get the grounding and phasing issues. I also use a ebtech Hum X on the heads. Hope that helps
Sounds massive. I've always a fan of a dual amp rig. One with a more vintage British tone for the chewy upper mids and chimey highs, and the other being a modern American amp for the beefy lows and lower mid girth. I also agree the unboosted tone is better.
I'm also a "without the TS" type-o-guy. I don't really like the way the TS cuts all the lows. It's wrong for me. I prefer to boost an amp with an EQ, so I can control the exact frequencies I want to cut in the lows, and boost in the highs.
I'm totally convinced that you could make a First Act starter pack sound kick ass LOL. But I'm digging that sound you get when you Put just the JVM and 5150 together.
whelp, those tones were disgusting. Would you record just one guitar track with this setup or would you layer each side twice? I don't entirely understand how to replicate this for recording. Also would be cool to see a couple lunchbox heads go together, like a PRS MT15 and a VX Kraken or something similar. Love the new series already!
The more I hear the JVM 410the more I like it the el34 tone sounds so much better I have 2 DSL heads 100watt,and el34 tube tone is the best for me just my humble opinion
@@-Kal- tons in the doom scene. Not sure if they're articulate enough for more technical stuff BUT I'm happy to pay attention to see if anybody else weighs in.
2:37 Did you try different power sources? I mean different wall sockets, from other side of the room or even from other room sockets. Also disconnecting other electric devices one by one can give a clue if something else is causing the noise. Do those neon light signs buzz?
No one man should command this much gain. Goddamn just can't beat a Marshall for definition, love the blend of these they complement eachother perfectly!
🧔 I'm a drummer who loves brutal guitar tones. The blending of the Marshall jvm and the Peavy 5150 sounds amazing together. I would have to say separately I love the Marshall jvm on a crunch with the tube screamer. That sounds amazingly brutal in my opinion. Love you and and the new series. 🌻
The JVM has always been my favorite amp since I first saw it and eventually played it after a few years of watching the videos. While it’s great to have the luxury of both amps, one could get away with tones ranging from worse to even better by using a 10 band EQ pedal and a compressor. Maybe even use some of your favorite OD pedals and you’re very good to go.
That sound when you first blended the two together and when you put the reverb and delay in - that's the "BEA" sound to me! Made me properly love high gain and the way you use it in Toska. It's a benchmark tone that I always chase.
Personally I would love to hear the PVP 5150 crunch bright channel at 7 blend with the Mesa boogie Mark 5 25 Gain at 9 but be careful of the 100 watt amp the gain might hack your ears to death !
I run my JVM 215 with a modded '68 Fender Bassman, connected from the pre-amp out on the JVM through the effects loop return added to the Bassman. The Marshall pre-amp sounds really nice through the Fender power amp.
Just coming with options of things to check, but has the earth plug in one ot the units been damaged or anything? Like in the back of the unit, maybe not iec itself. Was it like that with all guitars or just some? Maybe there is a earth connection gone bad in the guitar you tested with. Is something else plugged in to the same power source that usually has not been there? Maybe something else is noisy, but you hear it through the double amp rig. Also you just had your Marshall fixed, right? Maybe something got fixed but something also broke. Has happened with me sometimes when I got my amps serviced. Maybe the transformer on one is gone slightly bad? Check the tubes? Hope any of this will help. If all else fails. Try the same thing a couple days later, and it might work. Sometimes electronics just have a bad "juju" day. Cheers!
I would love to see what you’d do with my modded Jet City 100 head. Almost done with the modding and it’s like a JCM800 and a 5150 had some evil offspring! It would be interesting to hear you play through it and get your opinions on it.
@@expendedelectricity LOL what up my man! Funny seeing you here! Lol seriously though when I’m done with mine I would totally send it to BEA if he’d want to try it out. I’ll pay the shipping charges hahaha
This sounds massive! Is there any chance doing the same for preamp pedals? I.e. mixing the Kraken preamp with a G3 or BEOD, through IR for direct recording?
One combo I've been curious about is a Friedman BE-100 and a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Multiwatt. Ideally, I'd use Celestion G12H-75 speakers with the Friedman and V30s with the Dual Rectifier.
Granted no computers ect are involved in my case. I keep my amps and board fed from a single custom built cable. Why? Keeps the house grounds out of the mix. Reducing possible ground loops. Pretty quiet setup really. Even with medium gain.
Get an electrician to help you, you’ll understand your home much better. Once you have diagrammed your circuits, you’ll know which outlets share circuits with lights from other rooms, etc. You will also discover outlets which are unused and might serve you better, so you will run extension chords to them. You will also understand circuit loads, and how much load each of your amplifiers requires.
I agree, without the tubescreamer. The tubescreamer cuts the bass on the 5150, and blows out the string definition of the JVM, it totally counteracts the best parts of both.
Man this sounds great. To be honest, I wish the amps weren’t panned. While it makes for a great listening experience, I’d love to hear these two stellar amps stacked in mono, to really get the full effect of how the compliment (or detract from) each other. Other than that, I absolutely love this new series!!
@@xsonicassassinx a simple phase inverter or sample delay will mitigate that. Blended amps are commonplace in records, these days, so I love this concept, but would love to hear the two amps actually stacked, as opposed to separate.
keep as much distance between your cables as possible.....especially ground cables near power cables....EMF fields will create a buzz.....if it's not possible to keep them far apart then add a metal plate between cables to interupt the magnetic field generated by your power cables
Honestly, the first thing I'd try is having them go through the same cabs. I somehow feel that could be interesting as different frequencies will pop only due to the amp itself, and not the cab.
I like the sound of this combination of these amps. The difficulty is to finde the right mix of definition, brutality and special "dirt". I often mixing clean tones with distorted tones to have the definition in the sound, especially for riffs...
Why does his high gain tone always have a fat fuzzy undertone? I got myself some Dimebuckers which are pretty damn hot and articulate like the Bareknuckles but I still can't get that tone.
Also, I wonder if putting a gate plugin after everything might help with the hum. Of course it would be better to sort it out from the source but could be a work around.
probably the "solution" to the "poor" articulation of the 5150 might be to switch it with a 6505.. the ground hum might be related to the powers of the two loadboxes, but it's usually a pain using more than one amp because of ground loops and stuff like those.. love this stereo rig, made me want to try to record something like this(plugin only, unfortunately, i only have one head). Victory Kraken + MESA Dual Rectifier? or Kraken + 5150?
@@thechannelforeverything2170 my bad, i was pretty sure it was a more modern take on the 5150, didn't know Van Halen brought the name with him so they had to change it...
I would LOVE to hear a Sheriff (AMP/V4) / Kraken (Amp/V4) Combo (especially as I got my hands on those two preamp pedals used, and I would like to see how you dial them in...!) Or SLO / Kraken, SLO /5150... or Sheriff /Slo - 5150... or... just anything you can get your hands on... mix n match... :) Someone has written Orange Amp in combo with something (Kraken as my favourite) which I have to second! Anyways, great video, awesome tones, cant wait for the next one!
So freaking good. Is it possible to make Kemper Profiles with blended amps? It seems like it could be done in theory. I'd love to get my hands on preamp or merged profile of this.
I've got a JVM410H TBH, I rarely play it, too beastly for my small music room. I tend to play with Yamaha THR's or soft amps or Helix. I would be curious what the JVM410H & Mesa Dual Rect would sound like? 🤯
I've been Bi-amping on a stereo 4x12 for years...I feel spoiled...as soon as one of the amps isn't there, it sounds "off" or "weird". Kinda like turning off a stereo effect in a wet/dry rig ;-( ...anyway, AMAZING TONE Bea...call Dan 'That Pedal Show' on your noise issue!
Lately I've only had my 6505+ around. I miss pairing it with my Laney AOR 50. AOR set darker thru mxr octave fuzz w/ blended Down and up octaves through orange 2x12. Peavey set brighter and tightened up with a OCD thru mesa 2x12. Respectively dry/wet. Modulation on both at times. Nice selection of guitars. Gibsons and Esp in drop c
Ugh I hate dealing with random noise issues. I don't think it's related, but I had a horrible ground loop issue with my JVM410H and an ISP Decimator II G-string which INTRODUCED a ton of noise when it wasn't 'suppressing' the noise. I don't remember the details, but I worked with ISP to try and 'fix it' to no avail. I had to switch back to a Boss NS-2 which didn't seem to have the same issue. I haven't had that issue with my EVH 5150ii 50 watt, revv g20, or any of my Synergy stuff. Only the JVM410H
Yeah, I'm really late to this party, but I've just been listening to all these and have a suggestion / ask: how about the crunch channel on the SLO-100 with the Friedman Twin Sister? OK, not High Gain Harmony, but maybe Mid Gain Melody?
I like blending my Orange Rockerverb Mkiii and Marshall DSL. They have a complimentary mix due to their different tonal characteristics. Try a Orange Rockerverb Mkiii with your Marshall and see what you think.
How about a daisy chained rig of a Marshall (SV20, 1987x etc), maybe a Vox (AC15/30, Matchless,/13, Morgan etc), and a Fender blackface super reverb. All cranked through attenuation. Curious to see what happens when you play them all together, while they're eqd such that each respective amp occupies a specific frequency spectrum. Maybe the Marshall for mids to highs, the fender (bass turned to 10) for bass, and the vox for high end chime? Love the way the two heads sound in this video Rabea :)
I've been doing something similar. Only 2 different amps set to clean with a different distortion pedal in front of each. Ie sansamp and ds1, big muff and ds1, boss superfuzz and bigmuff. Sounds fooking HUGE!!!!
Excellent vid. They mixed wonderful together. The tube screamer takes away clarity and dynamics. I preferred the Marshall if the amps weren't mixed. A Fryette and a Bogner would be lovely. Especially a Sig X or Deliverance, but the Pitbull would be awesome too.
Hi Bea, i have a little trick when comes to your buzz/ground hum issues. Try European (continental) amp power cables with a uk adapters, 2 EU pin to 3 UK pin. I was strugglin with this issue for ages everywhere in UK. And then, by total accident i discovered this trick. I had this annoying ground loop buzz/hum comming out of my studio monitors connected to my PC. I swapped my monitor's power cabels to EU with UK adapters and eureka, complete silence. It works with guitar amps as well. Also a cheap Behringer Hum Destroyer is very usefull in various occasions. Take care and keep up a good work buddy!!!
I blended my 50W 6L6 Kraken with my 50W Marshall 1987x Plexi the other day as an experiment. I've never felt more intimidated by a sound before!! Needless to say the Marshall was cranked through an attenuator (Still insanely loud), the Victory was on gain 1 at about 3 oclock, EQ to taste (Bass at 11, mid and treble at 1) I tried to match the volume with the semi attenuated marshall. So much meat. With Gain 2 engaged you get this godly overlap of high gain and the brutal screaming roar of a plexi at full battle-stations. Sadly I only have one 4x12 so I had to run them through half the cab each. I'd love to try it with one 4x12 per amp
Sounds awesome, try the JVM and Soldano together. I do that at home, sounds pure BEEEF :D
It should sound similar to this, as the 5150 and the Soldano themselves aren't that far apart in sound and architecture. Or so they say.
Lucky neighbours you have 😂
@@JaimeNoro Actually, as far as I know, the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier is the one that copied the SLO preamp exactly, bit by bit.
@@aapddd Shame I don't live next door, i'd be poking my head out the window "OI BEA, TURN IT UP"
Fantastic idea man, I also thought about that, I unfortunately don’t have a Soldano, but I can imagine the two amps sounding remarkable together even though they are amazing on their own already.
FINALLY somebody that goes into this rabbit hole properly, really hyped for this series, much respect!👏👏👏
i would love to hear a 5150 with a rectifier i heard they sound good together
also would be cool to hear the 2 amps in mono, so for example you could have 2 performances played with 2 different combination of amps in a single mix
I think the 5150 and rectifier might be the most popular combo, 5150 has that super direct upper midrange, rectifier has the lows, and both have a shitload of gain pardon my French
Hi Rabea, some troubleshooting tips for the ground loop(s):
First of all, what’s the exact signal path? Is it guitar > pedalboard > split out to both amps? Anything in the fx loops of each amp? I’m assuming the pedalboard can lift the ground on one of the outputs going to the front ends of the amps.
The first thing i’d try is run both heads through real cabs and eliminate the load boxes and see if you get ground loop hum like this. Using the Lehle or any other iso box/hum destroyer device in line on either side, you can ground lift either of the lines going into the front end of each amp to see if this removes any hum at this stage if there is any hum.
If there’s no hum when using real cabs, introduce a loadbox to one amp and see if this adds any ground loop. I’d be surprised if this did given that you’re using balanced lines from loadbox to interface, unless one of the loadboxes has a ground lift switch that’s pressed down when it doesn’t need to be, which might cause the hum.
If adding the first loadbox doesn’t add hum, introduce the next loadbox and see if that adds hum. If that doesn’t, it’s probably happening at the front end stage. Or if anything is going into either fx loop, you might have an issue there that needs a ground lift.
Another test would be to have both amps with loadboxes, but with nothing plugged into the front ends of either amp, and with both amps set to high gain so you just hear amp hiss. If there’s no hum like that, it’s definitely a front end issue that just needs one side to be ground lifted.
I wonder also if there’s a power source issue, but if all the gear is powered by the same outlet then probably not.
Also a few ideas for the next video of this series. Try running two tube screamers or other combinations of dirt pedals in parallel (one to each amp) so each amp has a slightly different signal path. This can get closer to a more double tracked feel.
Also, i’m hearing slight latency on the JVM side so the overall effect is that the 5150 side arrives sooner (i don’t mean the short milisecond ambience added to the tone, just the fact that the 5150 sounds faster).
Try blending the high harmonics of a Soldano with the mid content of maybe a Friedman.
Or with the low end of a Rectifier or his Revv
The victory copper with the JVM? Gunned AC30 style tones with the high gain Marshall
Can you do the Marshall/Diezel blend Adam Jones uses?
That’s the pair that I run on AXEFX and it sounds wonderful
I'd love to hear a dimed sheriff mixed with something heavy, looking for that Adam Jones super bass x VH4 vibe.
I blend a Sheriff 22 w/ a BH Terror at home, it sounds awesome. I've always watned to hear the bigger Sheriff with a full sized Orange.
+1
Or just go VH4 and Marshall, see what the fuzz is about. Would surely make for an interesting video.
My suggestion is to do something Hetfield style, scooped 80s/90s style tone blended with a nice compressed Diezel giving some defined mids and some chewy saturated low-end. Seems to be a similar thing to blend two different styles. My favorite non-metal tone is Billie Joe Armstrong's who does a similar thing. Modded 59 Plexi that's closer to maybe a lower-gain classic JCM800 and set pretty clean and straight up, and then another 59 Plexi that's got a more metal-y gain structure with more gain for a big scooped saturated low end. So you get the cleaner super punchy midrange response and cut of the first amp, and all the big sustain and palm muting saturation and sizzle from the second amp, all through V30s.
(To me) the notes sound clearer, larger, more organic and less noisy without the T. screamer. Worked better with the baritone.
Because the tube screamer has a natural bass cut and mid boost frequency curve. It would sound better with a bass player
I think you needed more presence on the 5150. That’s why there was hardly note definition. Additionally, adding the TS9 to the 5150 would prolly have tightened it up a bit.
Would be unreal if you managed to get that Friedman BE100 deluxe back and pair it with the Soldano... tonal heaven!!!
I use a TAE with my MKV
and the Captor 8ohm with my MKIIB C300
I’m using a radial Big Shot ABY so that I don’t get the grounding and phasing issues.
I also use a ebtech Hum X on the heads.
Hope that helps
I’d love to see an Orange/Friedman combo ! 😍
Orange / Friedman would be sick
Ultimate British high gain pair
Sounds massive. I've always a fan of a dual amp rig. One with a more vintage British tone for the chewy upper mids and chimey highs, and the other being a modern American amp for the beefy lows and lower mid girth. I also agree the unboosted tone is better.
I also find the sound better without the Tube Screamer. Great Video Idea!!
Maybe try the soldano and the 5150 together? Two amps that are supposed to be big in their era
This is a great idea. See if the kraken and soldano play well together.
I'm also a "without the TS" type-o-guy. I don't really like the way the TS cuts all the lows. It's wrong for me. I prefer to boost an amp with an EQ, so I can control the exact frequencies I want to cut in the lows, and boost in the highs.
I'm totally convinced that you could make a First Act starter pack sound kick ass LOL. But I'm digging that sound you get when you Put just the JVM and 5150 together.
Orange/ Friedman
Rectifier/SLO
Vh4/ Revv Gen 120
JCM800/ Mesa Mark 5
whelp, those tones were disgusting. Would you record just one guitar track with this setup or would you layer each side twice? I don't entirely understand how to replicate this for recording. Also would be cool to see a couple lunchbox heads go together, like a PRS MT15 and a VX Kraken or something similar. Love the new series already!
In the studio you would record two different takes and run one through each rig.
340g of Princes Corned Beef, right there.
OOOF
The more I hear the JVM 410the more I like it the el34 tone sounds so much better I have 2 DSL heads 100watt,and el34 tube tone is the best for me just my humble opinion
What we really need are hi-gain heads with mean fuzz sounds asap
I would love to hear more nasty, splatty, filthy fuzz sounds in heavier genres tbh. If anyone can recommend a band/song I’d be happy.
@@-Kal- tons in the doom scene. Not sure if they're articulate enough for more technical stuff BUT I'm happy to pay attention to see if anybody else weighs in.
@@jimmymaria1964 I’ll check out some doom stuff then.
Try to blend a soldano with a mesa boogie dual rectifier
That would be a bit ironic because the first iteration of the Rectifier was an SLO clone.
Horrendous use a 5150 and a JVM live. Sounds amazing for them as well!
2:37 Did you try different power sources? I mean different wall sockets, from other side of the room or even from other room sockets. Also disconnecting other electric devices one by one can give a clue if something else is causing the noise. Do those neon light signs buzz?
No one man should command this much gain. Goddamn just can't beat a Marshall for definition, love the blend of these they complement eachother perfectly!
🧔 I'm a drummer who loves brutal guitar tones. The blending of the Marshall jvm and the Peavy 5150 sounds amazing together. I would have to say separately I love the Marshall jvm on a crunch with the tube screamer. That sounds amazingly brutal in my opinion. Love you and and the new series. 🌻
The JVM has always been my favorite amp since I first saw it and eventually played it after a few years of watching the videos. While it’s great to have the luxury of both amps, one could get away with tones ranging from worse to even better by using a 10 band EQ pedal and a compressor. Maybe even use some of your favorite OD pedals and you’re very good to go.
That fat bee is ridiculous
Also, try the soldano with something like a Model T
Sick idea. I would love to hear a freidman be100 with a soldano
That sound when you first blended the two together and when you put the reverb and delay in - that's the "BEA" sound to me!
Made me properly love high gain and the way you use it in Toska. It's a benchmark tone that I always chase.
Are u recently listening to Killswitch Engage songs man ? I've noticed that you're always using their riffs in your recent videos. 🤣
It sounds like you had gremlins Bea. Don't feed them after dark......
Liked it better without the tube screamer. Loved it actually
Rockerverb mk3 with ppc2x12 or 4x12?
Personally I would love to hear the PVP 5150 crunch bright channel at 7 blend with the Mesa boogie Mark 5 25 Gain at 9 but be careful of the 100 watt amp the gain might hack your ears to death !
Throw some Orange amps in the mix if possible.
I run my JVM 215 with a modded '68 Fender Bassman, connected from the pre-amp out on the JVM through the effects loop return added to the Bassman. The Marshall pre-amp sounds really nice through the Fender power amp.
Neural DSP need to make an Archetype: Bea, with the ability to run stereo rigs (like Bias can)
I wonder how it would sound if one recorded two sections using stereo mode instead of just doing the normal hard panned mono guitars. I use bias also.
Would love to see you do one with one of those small battery powered amps!! Like the small small vox thingy!
Beaaautiful tones of the JVM 410 + TS. Beautiful singing leads. Gonna get me this head this year!!!!
whats the song beas playing in the intro?
I would do the Soldano on the left the JVM in the middle and the Mezza on the right. Should be awesome.
Id love to hear the Kraken mixed with the Mezzabarba!
Two digits☝️
I like to be one of the first hundred.
I wonder if the UA sign mite be doing it
My right ear loved the 5150 XD
Try them ALLLLLLLLLTOGHETHER😈😈😈
I like it with out the tube screamer
Call Mick n Dan... If they can't help you they probably know someone who can.
"And I still can't work out why." -- Call Dan @ TPS. He'll getcha sorted post-haste. Rumour has it they want you on the show again. Jus' sayin'.
what is the song at the intro ?
I think the slo with the revv might sound kinda cool!
Just coming with options of things to check, but has the earth plug in one ot the units been damaged or anything? Like in the back of the unit, maybe not iec itself. Was it like that with all guitars or just some? Maybe there is a earth connection gone bad in the guitar you tested with. Is something else plugged in to the same power source that usually has not been there? Maybe something else is noisy, but you hear it through the double amp rig. Also you just had your Marshall fixed, right? Maybe something got fixed but something also broke. Has happened with me sometimes when I got my amps serviced. Maybe the transformer on one is gone slightly bad? Check the tubes?
Hope any of this will help. If all else fails. Try the same thing a couple days later, and it might work. Sometimes electronics just have a bad "juju" day.
Cheers!
I‘d like to see a Driftwood Purple Nightmare with the Mezzabarba
I'd love to hear the JVM alongside a Boogie Mark series amp, I feel like that could be quite nasty.
I would love to see what you’d do with my modded Jet City 100 head. Almost done with the modding and it’s like a JCM800 and a 5150 had some evil offspring! It would be interesting to hear you play through it and get your opinions on it.
We all know we need more Jet City content on UA-cam Luke lol
@@expendedelectricity LOL what up my man! Funny seeing you here! Lol seriously though when I’m done with mine I would totally send it to BEA if he’d want to try it out. I’ll pay the shipping charges hahaha
Extra djent will come, just use a Fortin grind.
This sounds massive! Is there any chance doing the same for preamp pedals? I.e. mixing the Kraken preamp with a G3 or BEOD, through IR for direct recording?
One combo I've been curious about is a Friedman BE-100 and a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Multiwatt.
Ideally, I'd use Celestion G12H-75 speakers with the Friedman and V30s with the Dual Rectifier.
I know you must be happy to be back with the JVM, you’ve talked about it a lot.👍🏻
Would love to hear YOU demo some Diezel amps.
Hi there Bea! It would be quite interesting to blend the OD1 of the JVM with a Peavey Invective MH on a defined gain setting!!
Rabea, sometimes the answer is simple. Try diferent signal cables. Maybe you just have a failing connection somewhere.
Failing connections don't cause feedback and phase issues. Grounding issues and aound cutting out, yes though
Granted no computers ect are involved in my case. I keep my amps and board fed from a single custom built cable. Why? Keeps the house grounds out of the mix. Reducing possible ground loops.
Pretty quiet setup really. Even with medium gain.
Get an electrician to help you, you’ll understand your home much better. Once you have diagrammed your circuits, you’ll know which outlets share circuits with lights from other rooms, etc. You will also discover outlets which are unused and might serve you better, so you will run extension chords to them. You will also understand circuit loads, and how much load each of your amplifiers requires.
@@PESHMERGASM Great reply Drum Evil.
Man I LOVE this idea! Keep em coming!
Yes! he's my guitar hero I love anything he does
I agree, without the tubescreamer. The tubescreamer cuts the bass on the 5150, and blows out the string definition of the JVM, it totally counteracts the best parts of both.
Man this sounds great.
To be honest, I wish the amps weren’t panned. While it makes for a great listening experience, I’d love to hear these two stellar amps stacked in mono, to really get the full effect of how the compliment (or detract from) each other.
Other than that, I absolutely love this new series!!
likely had to be panned to mitigate the phase issue
@@xsonicassassinx a simple phase inverter or sample delay will mitigate that. Blended amps are commonplace in records, these days, so I love this concept, but would love to hear the two amps actually stacked, as opposed to separate.
@@MrJabbawaky unfortunately not that simple. The harmonics are never quite in phase. The more gain, the more it’s a problem, seemingly.
Good lord that's brutal!
I'd like to hear a Sunn model T linked up with an orange od140... and fuzz, LOTS of fuzz.👹
keep as much distance between your cables as possible.....especially ground cables near power cables....EMF fields will create a buzz.....if it's not possible to keep them far apart then add a metal plate between cables to interupt the magnetic field generated by your power cables
Honestly, the first thing I'd try is having them go through the same cabs. I somehow feel that could be interesting as different frequencies will pop only due to the amp itself, and not the cab.
My favorite mix is my Wizard MTL2 with my Diezel Herbert mk 1 . That’s my ultimate!
I like the sound of this combination of these amps. The difficulty is to finde the right mix of definition, brutality and special "dirt". I often mixing clean tones with distorted tones to have the definition in the sound, especially for riffs...
Why does his high gain tone always have a fat fuzzy undertone? I got myself some Dimebuckers which are pretty damn hot and articulate like the Bareknuckles but I still can't get that tone.
it's mostly the amp. the 6505 and JVM both do that kinda sound really well
Also, I wonder if putting a gate plugin after everything might help with the hum. Of course it would be better to sort it out from the source but could be a work around.
probably the "solution" to the "poor" articulation of the 5150 might be to switch it with a 6505..
the ground hum might be related to the powers of the two loadboxes, but it's usually a pain using more than one amp because of ground loops and stuff like those..
love this stereo rig, made me want to try to record something like this(plugin only, unfortunately, i only have one head).
Victory Kraken + MESA Dual Rectifier?
or
Kraken + 5150?
The 6505 is exactly the same as a 5150.
@@thechannelforeverything2170 my bad, i was pretty sure it was a more modern take on the 5150, didn't know Van Halen brought the name with him so they had to change it...
Great idea I would love to see the Mezzabarba with the super kraken. Keep it up 👍
This was awesome Rabea!
Fortin, just send Bea your amp. Cali+Kraken can make an apocalyptic high gain.
I would LOVE to hear a Sheriff (AMP/V4) / Kraken (Amp/V4) Combo (especially as I got my hands on those two preamp pedals used, and I would like to see how you dial them in...!)
Or SLO / Kraken, SLO /5150...
or Sheriff /Slo - 5150... or... just anything you can get your hands on... mix n match... :)
Someone has written Orange Amp in combo with something (Kraken as my favourite) which I have to second!
Anyways, great video, awesome tones, cant wait for the next one!
So freaking good. Is it possible to make Kemper Profiles with blended amps? It seems like it could be done in theory. I'd love to get my hands on preamp or merged profile of this.
Me too! Would be great to have blend profiles!
@@alexofthewales Doesn't seem like it would be technically difficult. If we can hear it summed to mono, it can be profiled, right?
Holy shit mate, you look great! Been a couple years since I seen you on Andertons. Congrats, man
I've got a JVM410H TBH, I rarely play it, too beastly for my small music room. I tend to play with Yamaha THR's or soft amps or Helix. I would be curious what the JVM410H & Mesa Dual Rect would sound like? 🤯
I'm pretty sure the Marshall/5150 mixed tone is what Carcass used for Heartwork. The ultimate tone.
Friedman BE100 Deluxe with Soldano SLO100 please
Love the sound without the TS.....more musical and far more definition!
I've been Bi-amping on a stereo 4x12 for years...I feel spoiled...as soon as one of the amps isn't there, it sounds "off" or "weird".
Kinda like turning off a stereo effect in a wet/dry rig ;-(
...anyway, AMAZING TONE Bea...call Dan 'That Pedal Show' on your noise issue!
Lately I've only had my 6505+ around. I miss pairing it with my Laney AOR 50. AOR set darker thru mxr octave fuzz w/ blended Down and up octaves through orange 2x12. Peavey set brighter and tightened up with a OCD thru mesa 2x12. Respectively dry/wet. Modulation on both at times. Nice selection of guitars. Gibsons and Esp in drop c
Ugh I hate dealing with random noise issues. I don't think it's related, but I had a horrible ground loop issue with my JVM410H and an ISP Decimator II G-string which INTRODUCED a ton of noise when it wasn't 'suppressing' the noise. I don't remember the details, but I worked with ISP to try and 'fix it' to no avail. I had to switch back to a Boss NS-2 which didn't seem to have the same issue. I haven't had that issue with my EVH 5150ii 50 watt, revv g20, or any of my Synergy stuff. Only the JVM410H
Yeah, I'm really late to this party, but I've just been listening to all these and have a suggestion / ask: how about the crunch channel on the SLO-100 with the Friedman Twin Sister? OK, not High Gain Harmony, but maybe Mid Gain Melody?
I like blending my Orange Rockerverb Mkiii and Marshall DSL.
They have a complimentary mix due to their different tonal characteristics.
Try a Orange Rockerverb Mkiii with your Marshall and see what you think.
Can't wait for more episodes, mate! When you got the Baritone out with a smile I couldn't help smiling myself! :-D
How about a daisy chained rig of a Marshall (SV20, 1987x etc), maybe a Vox (AC15/30, Matchless,/13, Morgan etc), and a Fender blackface super reverb. All cranked through attenuation. Curious to see what happens when you play them all together, while they're eqd such that each respective amp occupies a specific frequency spectrum. Maybe the Marshall for mids to highs, the fender (bass turned to 10) for bass, and the vox for high end chime? Love the way the two heads sound in this video Rabea :)
I know what I'm making on my Quad Cortex!
\m/ Wanna try with my modded JVM's OD2 capture up on the cloud?
@@mendelrocksstudios I think I’ve already started them!
@@TheCoronaMortis Cool! They're a bunch up there from the community I should try also.
I've been doing something similar. Only 2 different amps set to clean with a different distortion pedal in front of each. Ie sansamp and ds1, big muff and ds1, boss superfuzz and bigmuff. Sounds fooking HUGE!!!!
Excellent vid. They mixed wonderful together. The tube screamer takes away clarity and dynamics. I preferred the Marshall if the amps weren't mixed.
A Fryette and a Bogner would be lovely. Especially a Sig X or Deliverance, but the Pitbull would be awesome too.
Hi Bea, i have a little trick when comes to your buzz/ground hum issues. Try European (continental) amp power cables with a uk adapters, 2 EU pin to 3 UK pin. I was strugglin with this issue for ages everywhere in UK. And then, by total accident i discovered this trick. I had this annoying ground loop buzz/hum comming out of my studio monitors connected to my PC. I swapped my monitor's power cabels to EU with UK adapters and eureka, complete silence. It works with guitar amps as well.
Also a cheap Behringer Hum Destroyer is very usefull in various occasions.
Take care and keep up a good work buddy!!!
I blended my 50W 6L6 Kraken with my 50W Marshall 1987x Plexi the other day as an experiment. I've never felt more intimidated by a sound before!!
Needless to say the Marshall was cranked through an attenuator (Still insanely loud), the Victory was on gain 1 at about 3 oclock, EQ to taste (Bass at 11, mid and treble at 1) I tried to match the volume with the semi attenuated marshall. So much meat.
With Gain 2 engaged you get this godly overlap of high gain and the brutal screaming roar of a plexi at full battle-stations. Sadly I only have one 4x12 so I had to run them through half the cab each. I'd love to try it with one 4x12 per amp
What chords are you playing between 7.20 and 7.30 and what tuning they sound awesome very tremonti like