For those pointing out some of the unbelievable elements of this mission...go read the Wraith Squadron books from the EU/Legends. Flying inside an enemy ship and gutting it from the inside is exactly the type of stuff Wraith Squadron did in those books and this might be the closest we ever get to actually ever seeing it on the big screen, which is a shame.
You mean like attacking Rebel corvette? Which in every other game is known as a Anti-Starfighter platform? Nobody takes out Corvettes (lamens term blockade runner) with a mesely few basic level tie-fighters
Also there's no world where a Star destroyer takes out a Mon Calmari Cruiser with only one volley of any tyoe of fire...this is why battle front has been and always will be one of the biggest jokes in SW gaming history😂😂😂
Lol the poor crew on that MC80b. I bet they were all thinking the same thing when they were gunned down: “wtf that stormtrooper is extremely accurate with his weapon!”
Until this mission the game was going spectacularly and improving with each mission. Then came "The Bad Empire" and "The Good Rebellion" and fun and entertaining expected was over.
7:18 Rebels: “Oh no, we’ve been boarded by a video game main character! She’s singlehandedly wiping us out without even breaking a sweat, she won’t die no matter how much we shoot at her, we can’t stop her, WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE! AAAAAAHHH!!!”
@@criminy_ If anything it’s even worse, at least in “No Russian” it was completely believable for the airport civilians to flee screaming in terror from Makarov and his men, but there’s no excuse for a ship full of armed rebels to do the same with a lone imperial commando no matter how well trained she is; Versio should’ve been turned to Swiss cheese the second she stepped out of that Tie Fighter.
@@criminy_ mostly in No Russian you are fighting unarmed civilians and a few airport security, you only fight some police later but you have military gear vs their riot shields so
@@Legoman775 That's the point. A couple of Imperials decide to board an enemy cruiser, and the troops and crew are barely fighting back. It's just a massacre.
Weird Idea; The Rebels were going to capture this ISD and use it for their Starhawk Project but this failed so they went after another ISD that being the Victorum which leads into squadrons... or is it just me?
Well it makes sense that the Rebels uses the U-Wings to hijack the Dauntless, so it could be linked to Squadrons. Either that or the Rebels may somehow have got the intel about Operation Cinder, so they decided to raid Fondor because the intel leads to there. It's worth to mention that the Rebels' objective in the SF Assault Fondor is to simply destroy the ISD.
“I’m told we destroyed hundreds of Rebel ships that day. Even if it had been thousands, it still wouldn’t have made up for the Death Star…” -501st Veteran
To make this mission truly hard it should give you a limited number of fighters that your actions in the mission influence the number who survive. Which target you aim for first etc.
I like this mission as the empire actually won and we saw the full power of a pissed off Star Destroyer 15:57 (love the Imperial turbolaser noises) that wrecked an MC80 in like 10 seconds. And of course the boarding of the MC80 itself was pretty cool and quite an Imperial thing to do: wreck the ships before they can defend themselves. Annoying that the bad guys cant win for more than 5 seconds nowadays 😢
One pilot killing everyone on board a cruiser is hard to believe to the point of stupidity. Unless you're Vader, it just immersion breaking. There should've been other Stormtroopers with you to make it seem more believable.
Star Wars: TIE Fighter (1994) was a good game because you were a loyal star fighter pilot in service of the Empire. You didn't betray the Emperor and the campaign where you captured the traitor Admiral Harkov to be brought before Lord Vader felt like Imperial justice
Yea i really dislike the black and white rebels vs empire stories theyre so bland i would rather play a loyal imperialist that would die for the emperor just like many including vader (pre original trilogy) would have fought and sacrificed for the empire 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾
Great game, one my favorites from childhood. Also you'd better have your shit together before you attack a MCC in TIE Fighter, not like this game. Capitol ship battles between ISDs and MCCs in TIE FIghter actually felt like a real space naval battle watching capitol ships slog it out with one another - something that I've noticed is missing from almost every other piece of SW media or games. You could and would lose an ISD to a MCC and associated Rebel craft. Corvettes and especially modified corvettes were no joke either.
One of my all time childhood favorites!!! The cutscenes, while dated, still live in my mind to this day haha. The cloaking corvette that explodes after Thrawn tricks them! Awesome stuff.
Fondor has always been an imperial sympathizer ,I think you mean corellia correct me if I am wrong but this has always been this way in legends which empire at war is based on
@@Luthen_Rael Just found out Fondor citizens are indeed Imperial loyalist in canon. And no, I am still referring to Fondor due to the second mission of Empire campaign in EAW where you encounter and fight pro-rebels civilians for the first time in the planet, however even after the campaign and in galactic conquest, Fondorians are still pro rebels and still fight against you if you play as the Empire. I wonder if they were originally meant to be pro-Imperial sympathizers. And by the way, in the same game, Corellia is filled pro rebel militants, likely due to the homeworld of Han Solo.
@@ernestw2474 In legends material Fondorians were pro-imperial so i guess it is only an empire at war thing,although I remember in mods like awakening of the rebellion and thrawn's revenge fondor is still imperial aligned
@@Luthen_Rael I didn't know about these mods, but that's the correct depiction of the Fondorians. Indeed, it is just Empire at War thing as it has a lot of inconsistencies and Fondor is one of them. Interesting that it is the only city planet to be pro-rebel while the other city planets' civilians are filled with Imperial sympathizers; Coruscant, Taris, Corulag, Anaxes, and Eriadu. When I played Forces of Corruption on this planet, being invaded, I positioned TIE Maulers and dark troopers phase II or III to deal with those armed collaborators and their dwellings making this battle difficult for rebels.
That admiral trying to direct the defense of his destroyer only to have the leader of Inferno Squad crash into the Corvis mid sentence. In that timeline the Corvis lost engine power and was destroyed by a rebel blockade runner, the destroyer was ceptured, Operation Cinder was foiled and Inferno Squad was wiped out. lol
The only issues with this game's campaign is the character plot twist early on, and the short part 2 (and the enemy AI inherently broken). And I gotta say, Jedi Fallen Order and Survivor look good in Unreal Engine, but Frostbite still has an upper edge sometimes in details. In particular with this sequence, it was amazing being able to go from a star destroyer to space and then landing onto the rebel vessel, all seamlessly in one map.
I mean lets be real here, that gigantic stack of engines is huge blindspot. Any halfway decent Tie Pilot could probably shoot those down just by hiding behind the engines.
Great intro but then one person takes on the crew of an entire cruiser alone? ridiculously op. Also the smoke trails in zero atmosphere bug me, smoke particles would continue at the same velocity they released at and disperse uniformly with nothing to slow it down or mix with.
@@tadowsky3488 but Star Wars is known for trying to have consistent and logical worldbuilding despite the more fantastical elements of the universe, like the force and lightspeed.
Audible explosions in space are impossible also. It's fiction, mate, just suspend your disbelief. Space wizards and laser swords aren't real either, remember?
Mon Calamari/New Republic cruisers can be intimidating ships too even if they're the good guys. First, their appearance is far more alien and exotic than Star Destroyers. Second, because they're pretty big themselves. A kilometer of alien war material.
Heh, yeah it would feel less silly if the player didn't seem to be on some kind of story mode difficulty. Make the damage lethal and reduce the number of troopers to make it possible. Maybe work in something like the defenses damaged it's engines so she just needs to take out one battery that can hit the SD, allowing it to escape.
This campaign would have been a lot more fun if Iden did not defect to the Rebel Alliance/New Republic. Her and her father could have been the ultimate father-daughter Duo that the Emperor entrusted to carry out Operation Cinder to destroy the Empire so the first order could be reborn from it from the ashes.
One thing I love about this section, is it perfectly shows the strengths of both factions. The rebels are absolutely devastating in sneak/surprise attacks, but when push comes to shove, the Empire absolutely dominates
Every time I remember playing the campaign of battlefront two I remember the promises we got concerning the Imperial side of the story. While we got some of it, it is really disappointing that past this point with Fondor we get nothing until the end and DLC. I know it is easier to market the Rebels and heroes of the GCW but come on, Haask as well had an insane story which could have been a DLC at the very least!
Thought this was Star Wars Squadrons at first. Having space battles and 3rd person on foot sections seems better then only one of those options per game.
I love Empire based things. Especially that segment where you board the ship and have the rebels panic and scatter, not sure what to do. Really gives you that “Hell yea Empire” feel. Sucks this went the old “Go Rebels! Down with the Empire” deal. Wasted potential in my opinion
"Hell Yeah Empire" what fuckin franchise have you been watching where you would ever feel this way? They aren't at all the good guys. They're intentionally cartoon villains.
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons It’s not bad to want to do some villain things once in awhile. They got cool armor, weapons, uniforms, and more. Plus it’s a nice change of pace to root for the Empire every so often when almost every single piece of media glorifies the rebels and has the clear cut bad guys and good guys dynamic, never that gray bit that makes one think. It gets tiring after a bit
@@fearthewolf1175 "its not bad to want to be evil" No, its UNDERSTANDABLE. But it is fucking bad. Even the parts of SW like Andor and Rogue One that do show the good guys doing fairly awful things, its always very obvious that the alternative is acquiescence and death. You need to do some soul searching my guy.
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons I think he meant that it's not bad to want to be evil specifically in a game. It's not really being evil, since it's only fictional.
i remember playing this campaign and for once i was happy to see another empire specific storyline like in 2005s bf2. but then it pulled a typical we are now fighting for the rebels and i was just sittin there thinking why would they ruin a good story line like that?
Really sad we didn’t get an entirely pro Empire game. This was a an easy set up. The Death Star would have had Millions of people on it. They aren’t all “bad”. Like do think the janitor was evil? If it’s a standard “military deployment” most of the people on that ship would have had their families with them. Very easy to make a sympathetic Empire story.
True but if the Empire was cruel then its only right that they experience the same type of cruelty they inflict back to them. Innocence proves nothing. The Rebellion was too soft and weak willed to do what needs to be done. Its a shame that Saw Gerrera's Partisans didn't succeed just because they were "bad guys" to the plot. They had the right idea of fighting fire with fire.
@cleeiii357 The problem with fighting fire with fire is when you become the fire to be fought against, Gerrera would've murdered a bunch of innocents at regular desk jobs if the empire employed them, even if it had nothing to do with propaganda or war. He likely would've turned into a dictator in his own right if he had succeeded in taking down the empire
@@mrp8008 Innocence proves nothing. They were a cog in the Empire's machinations. The Empire killed many many innocents, it's only just when millions of them also paid the price ten times over. Better Saw than the Empire, The New Repiblic was soft and weak and let remnant warlords exist instead of relentlessly hunting them down. If Saw was still alive, those remnants wouldn't have lasted. The New Republic gave then an inch, so they took a mile.
I am currently playing Tie Fighter Reimagined - And this Graphics Rail Shooter with unlimitted lives called SW Battlefront gives me the creeps as a SW Fan!
It's disappointing that the game didn't allow players to take on the role of the Empire's special forces for longer than 5 minutes, Keep in mind The Spec Ops groups are not often explored in the lore. It would have been interesting to see them work alongside other groups to counter the Rebels' efforts to overthrow the galactic empire. However, the game quickly has the Inferno Squad switch sides, which was a missed opportunity. It's a common theme with Disney that players cannot play as villains, even though the supposed hero faction has many flaws. The Rebellion is portrayed as a heroic underdog faction, but the majority of its members are known criminals, terrorists, and smugglers which most of the above have committed war crimes and broken Galactic law & horrific if not straight-up monstrous acts upon the galaxy at large. The Rebellion fought for the reconstitution of the Galactic Republic however before the Empire came into being for 1000 years after the Great Sith War, the Republic has allowed criminal groups and organizations to run free on the outer rim, leaving people to suffer without aid for centuries. The sequels showed that the Republic fell back into its old and corrupt ways, rendering the Rebellion's fight pointless. Although the Empire committed horrendous acts during its reign, They improved Galactic technology which was quite stagnant beforehand, and started to remove criminal elements from the outer rim. They also started to explore and map out unknown regions and planned to establish colonies. They also were slowly but surely ridding the outer rim of criminal groups & organizations and the only criminal organization to remain whole during that time was the Hutt cartel which keeps in mind they are quite cunning and intelligent species and would not go down easily and I could keep going on however this is already a lengthy discourse.
I mean working for a empire that blows up planets does make you evil and it can be rather hard to make it nuanced like yeah the rebels did x bad thing but its still not on the level of blowing up a planet so it would be hard to write a loyalist imperial who complains about the rebels doing bad things and then is perfectly fine with blowing up planets
@@wolves600 I see what you're saying. While it's true that the Empire destroyed one planet and tested their weapons on two others, it's important to note that Tarken destroyed Alderaan without the Emperor's permission. In fact, Palpatine was surprised and taken aback by Tarken's actions, especially considering Alderaan's long history and reputation as one of the most beautiful planets in the galaxy. The Death Star wasn't intended to be used to destroy planets, but rather as a symbol of the Empire's ability to protect its citizens and deter outside threats. It's like the real-world equivalent of nuclear weapons, which were built as a deterrent rather than for actual use. In fact, it's believed that the Emperor never planned to use the Death Star's full power and had it built as a precautionary measure against a potential invasion by the Yuuzhan Vong, a threat that Grand Admiral Thrawn had warned him about. While this is just a theory among the Star Wars community, there is evidence to support it, including Thrawn's own involvement with the Empire to protect the Chiss Ascendancy
*Summary* *Introduction and The Emperor's Death* - 0:04: Meeting initiated with the line "you wish to see me sir approach." - 0:13: News delivered that the emperor is dead. *Retaliation and Undermining the Rebels* - 0:19-0:21: Response to the emperor's death, "What happens now?" "We retaliate." - 0:23-0:30: Discussion about undermining the foundation of the rebels. *Discussion on the Source of Rebel's Belief* - 0:33-0:39: Source of the rebels' belief is identified as "hope." - 0:41-0:50: Messenger's presence is an honor, shared with commander's daughter. *Operation Cinder* - 1:04-1:14: Concepts of defiance must be eradicated. - 1:20-1:57: Introduction of operation Cinder; upcoming assignments termed "unusual." - 2:01-2:20: Specific tasks outlined to retrieve experimental satellites and oversee security. *Combat Actions* - 3:30-3:54: Task to intercept and destroy enemy Corvette and Blockade Runner. - 4:02-4:08: Disabling of rebel ships. - 5:00-5:24: All rebel ships destroyed, need to restore power to own systems. *Enemy Trap and Next Steps* - 6:11-6:48: Successfully traps enemy forces. - 7:08-8:09: Line, "I'm on my way to you now." *Sabotage and Combat* - 9:03-9:35: Orders given to destroy cooling cells. - 10:19-10:40: Additional rebels incoming. - 11:18-11:47: Two cooling cells down, preparing explosives for the last one. *Explosions and Aftermath* - 12:02-12:26: Cooling cell explosion goes as planned. *Further Objectives* - 13:13-13:45: Objectives include destroying control tower and docking arm. *Philosophy and Intentions* - 14:17-14:51: Rebels must not discover intentions behind operation Cinder. Discussion on power and control. *Final Actions and Closure* - 14:53-15:05: Enemy fighters inbound, ordered to destroy them. - 15:08-15:12: Satellites are one step closer to safety. - 15:34-15:44: The Star Destroyer Dauntless is freed. - 16:06-16:13: Closing remarks, "your father will be proud."
There is untapped potential in Star Wars Video Game media. Of all, only The Force Unleashed really played into it, but being a true evil villain in Star Wars is such an interesting role to play. Being a true cog in the imperial march, being a trooper executing order 66, beings Uber-powerful Sith are the exact power-fantasies gamers enjoy. Personally, I would love if they made an adult or serious toned game where you play as Vader in the first days of the empire as they transition from the republic and Vader takes the 501st to crush any Seperatist/Jedi sympathizers. Don’t make us have a good arc for the character, but instead make it a thoughtful experience where the gamer does things that makes them feel the temptation that power and evil can bring and showing them the awesome might of the empire to better appreciate the struggle the rebel alliance had to undertake against this force.
Will anyone make a full-length movie using this amazing animation technology? We will surely watch it, the zombie-action genre will do, a cross between Resident Evil and the Walking Dead series. Oh, that would be epic!
funny thing is according to disney the emperor isnt dead, unless he has a lower net worth than the same plot that was already repeated like twice at that point.
This game had so much potential, instead of “empire bad” “rebellion good” we should’ve just gotten a empire only perspective and it would’ve been 100% better
@@mr_yooooda8147 That isn't the problem. Fondor, according to the Lore, was a major shipyard in that region of space. Why was there only one ISD, which was docked, an no other defensive ships or even escorts for the ship? Yeah, it's a game and the plot couldn't happen if there were more defences, but still.
@@magosmarechferracioli1128 The shipyards seem to be spread out in those little 'island' space stations(said to be 19 of them), unlike in Kuat where it's a whole ring surrounding the planet. Fondor is smaller than Kuat, so that makes sense - it's probably just not possible to see most of the other stations due to the sheer distance between them. ISDs are intended to serve alone without escort(though they rarely do so successfully) so it's not typical for them to have a protective screen of ships.
It was a stupid plan when Hitler came up with it and it was still a stupid plan here. Nero for Hitler and Cinder for Palpatine but then Palpatine and the Empire did become comedy bad guys over time. Though it was cool to see Rebel troopers missing 90% of shots. :)
Don't you play as the empire completely in Squadrons? Well you go back and forth in 2 different perspectives. One in the rebellion and one in the empire.
@@dango6266 Yeah at least for the Empire story your character doesn’t defect and stays loyal until the end of the game. I enjoyed Squadrons so much and for that fact alone it’s underrated I think
Lol it doesn't matter how many ships the Empire destroyed after the Death Star was destroyed. Hope had started to spread across the galaxy. I like that the game gives a viewpoint of the Empire, but it was always destined to fall in canon. I think she should've at least been killed in the boarding scene tho. Nothing wrong with swapping to a new main character.
I wish they'd do games with better stories, something with alternate time lines, and allow the Jedi to have returned peace, and you could go undercover and have to use a blaster. Plus some vehicle fights, as you just need those.
Cant we get a game where we are just imperials? We know for sure the Rebellion lost a lot more than it won before the Emperor died. Give us that pov and yes we know we are meant to lose in the end. But make it so we are in a desperate last attempt to take down the New Republic and Luke comes and defeats us. He offers to take us prisoners. We can accept or die fighting. If we accept, we get an extra mission which is escaping. If we fail, we get locked up and if we succeed we live to fight another day. End of the game- bonus scene: We get a transmision from Thrawn. Boom 2nd game.
Fire rate is too fast, the tie fighter is moving too slow, the X-Wings don't dog-fight, her ship doesn't take much if any damage (Alliance had superior fighters) and then after boarding she is practically invulnerable.
Oh yeah, because the Battlefront series is totally known for being 100% lore accurate and plot armor is totally not a major plot thing in Star Wars, especially not when playing a game on easy difficulty
The Rebels were probably planning on capturing it. After all the Rebel Alliance has plans for the Star Destroyers, and thats assuming they don't just give it a new coat of paint and use it against the Empire.
For those pointing out some of the unbelievable elements of this mission...go read the Wraith Squadron books from the EU/Legends. Flying inside an enemy ship and gutting it from the inside is exactly the type of stuff Wraith Squadron did in those books and this might be the closest we ever get to actually ever seeing it on the big screen, which is a shame.
You mean like attacking Rebel corvette? Which in every other game is known as a Anti-Starfighter platform? Nobody takes out Corvettes (lamens term blockade runner) with a mesely few basic level tie-fighters
Also there's no world where a Star destroyer takes out a Mon Calmari Cruiser with only one volley of any tyoe of fire...this is why battle front has been and always will be one of the biggest jokes in SW gaming history😂😂😂
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just a rerun of return of the jedi
not to mention its literally the same thing luke did to the death star in ANH and what Lando did with the falcon in ROTJ
Lol the poor crew on that MC80b. I bet they were all thinking the same thing when they were gunned down: “wtf that stormtrooper is extremely accurate with his weapon!”
Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise.
It’s literally just plot armor. When rebels are good, imperials can’t aim. When imperials good, rebels can’t aim.
It wasn't a stormtrooper. It was a pilot.
The bad aim is what tarkin planned makes the rebels think they escaped
that moment of shock when she learns the emperor is dead was really well captured
No he’s not. Somehow Palpatine returned 🤪.
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Until this mission the game was going spectacularly and improving with each mission. Then came "The Bad Empire" and "The Good Rebellion" and fun and entertaining expected was over.
Yea. It gets boring, the same story. We never get the perspective of the Empire.
It's exactly how it happened.
I get it cuz it gets repetitive but we know the empire was always bad, so whatever
@Random Person "always bad" The Rebllion had blood on their hands too. And there some good in the Empire. Some actually had good intentions.
@@ericareaper8750 defending the fictional space nazis is CRAZY😭
3:59
My immersion is ruined
Wasn't even close to hit the Corvette tho... the hit box must've been broken.
@@v12ts.gaming Might’ve been the Corvette’s shielding 😂
Imagine that happened in the movie. Main character gets hit by a weird hitbox and dies, credits roll
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lol
7:18 Rebels: “Oh no, we’ve been boarded by a video game main character! She’s singlehandedly wiping us out without even breaking a sweat, she won’t die no matter how much we shoot at her, we can’t stop her, WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE! AAAAAAHHH!!!”
It plays like the CoD "No Russian" mission.
@@criminy_ If anything it’s even worse, at least in “No Russian” it was completely believable for the airport civilians to flee screaming in terror from Makarov and his men, but there’s no excuse for a ship full of armed rebels to do the same with a lone imperial commando no matter how well trained she is; Versio should’ve been turned to Swiss cheese the second she stepped out of that Tie Fighter.
@@criminy_ mostly in No Russian you are fighting unarmed civilians and a few airport security, you only fight some police later but you have military gear vs their riot shields so
@@Legoman775 That's the point. A couple of Imperials decide to board an enemy cruiser, and the troops and crew are barely fighting back. It's just a massacre.
@@criminy_ yeah but they are all armed, theres a difference
Weird Idea; The Rebels were going to capture this ISD and use it for their Starhawk Project but this failed so they went after another ISD that being the Victorum which leads into squadrons... or is it just me?
Well it makes sense that the Rebels uses the U-Wings to hijack the Dauntless, so it could be linked to Squadrons. Either that or the Rebels may somehow have got the intel about Operation Cinder, so they decided to raid Fondor because the intel leads to there.
It's worth to mention that the Rebels' objective in the SF Assault Fondor is to simply destroy the ISD.
You are litteraly right
Maybe that detail could have been written out for time, possibly.
@@v12ts.gamingand the Shipyards
"Blockade runner destroyed!" Faceplants into a rebel ship
“I’m told we destroyed hundreds of Rebel ships that day. Even if it had been thousands, it still wouldn’t have made up for the Death Star…”
-501st Veteran
Attacking a CR90 in the X-Wing games was suicide unless you approached them just right.
Bro what
@@gmkzilla7655x wing is a fleet based board game
@@UncannyFella I think he was referring to the X-Wing flight sim game for PC.
Yeah attacking an *anti-fighter* ship using a fighter isn't the brightest of ideas
Dude you have no idea how much time I used to spend playing it....Jesus was Boba Fett's Slave One strong....@@UncannyFella
To make this mission truly hard it should give you a limited number of fighters that your actions in the mission influence the number who survive. Which target you aim for first etc.
3:50 and the moment 10 seconds later is a wonderful break in pace. 😂
I like this mission as the empire actually won and we saw the full power of a pissed off Star Destroyer 15:57 (love the Imperial turbolaser noises) that wrecked an MC80 in like 10 seconds. And of course the boarding of the MC80 itself was pretty cool and quite an Imperial thing to do: wreck the ships before they can defend themselves.
Annoying that the bad guys cant win for more than 5 seconds nowadays 😢
Loved the Mass Effect feel of the imperial ship that the campaign operated under.
One pilot killing everyone on board a cruiser is hard to believe to the point of stupidity.
Unless you're Vader, it just immersion breaking. There should've been other Stormtroopers with you to make it seem more believable.
Tbf, she's not just a regular pilot, but a special forces marine. Plus she had another member of her squad as backup.
Star Wars: TIE Fighter (1994) was a good game because you were a loyal star fighter pilot in service of the Empire. You didn't betray the Emperor and the campaign where you captured the traitor Admiral Harkov to be brought before Lord Vader felt like Imperial justice
Yea i really dislike the black and white rebels vs empire stories theyre so bland i would rather play a loyal imperialist that would die for the emperor just like many including vader (pre original trilogy) would have fought and sacrificed for the empire 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾
Great game, one my favorites from childhood.
Also you'd better have your shit together before you attack a MCC in TIE Fighter, not like this game.
Capitol ship battles between ISDs and MCCs in TIE FIghter actually felt like a real space naval battle watching capitol ships slog it out with one another - something that I've noticed is missing from almost every other piece of SW media or games. You could and would lose an ISD to a MCC and associated Rebel craft.
Corvettes and especially modified corvettes were no joke either.
Ahh Tie Fighter, one of the best games of all time. A game that (besides graphics) would still stand the test of time even today
One of my all time childhood favorites!!! The cutscenes, while dated, still live in my mind to this day haha. The cloaking corvette that explodes after Thrawn tricks them! Awesome stuff.
Ah, tie fighter, i was the best damn pilot in the empire 😂
15:59 seeing those Imperial 2 turbolasers fire a volley was great. I prefer the 8 barrels than the dual barrels on the Imperial 1
THIS should've been an actual movie. IDEN is an amazing character, as are all the supporting characters
I remember Fondor is the planet where Fondorian civilians were rebel sympathizers as per Empire at War. Wonder if they are in canon.
Fondor has always been an imperial sympathizer ,I think you mean corellia correct me if I am wrong but this has always been this way in legends which empire at war is based on
empire at war had planet loyalities set more so for balance than anything else
@@Luthen_Rael Just found out Fondor citizens are indeed Imperial loyalist in canon. And no, I am still referring to Fondor due to the second mission of Empire campaign in EAW where you encounter and fight pro-rebels civilians for the first time in the planet, however even after the campaign and in galactic conquest, Fondorians are still pro rebels and still fight against you if you play as the Empire. I wonder if they were originally meant to be pro-Imperial sympathizers.
And by the way, in the same game, Corellia is filled pro rebel militants, likely due to the homeworld of Han Solo.
@@ernestw2474 In legends material Fondorians were pro-imperial so i guess it is only an empire at war thing,although I remember in mods like awakening of the rebellion and thrawn's revenge fondor is still imperial aligned
@@Luthen_Rael I didn't know about these mods, but that's the correct depiction of the Fondorians. Indeed, it is just Empire at War thing as it has a lot of inconsistencies and Fondor is one of them. Interesting that it is the only city planet to be pro-rebel while the other city planets' civilians are filled with Imperial sympathizers; Coruscant, Taris, Corulag, Anaxes, and Eriadu.
When I played Forces of Corruption on this planet, being invaded, I positioned TIE Maulers and dark troopers phase II or III to deal with those armed collaborators and their dwellings making this battle difficult for rebels.
That admiral trying to direct the defense of his destroyer only to have the leader of Inferno Squad crash into the Corvis mid sentence. In that timeline the Corvis lost engine power and was destroyed by a rebel blockade runner, the destroyer was ceptured, Operation Cinder was foiled and Inferno Squad was wiped out.
lol
This game has so much potential with empire gameplay and they fucked it up.
I'm only now starting the campaign. I'm impressed. It is a great single player campaign.
What game is this?
@@kevingonzales7499 battlefront 2
@@kevingonzales7499 check the title
The only issues with this game's campaign is the character plot twist early on, and the short part 2 (and the enemy AI inherently broken).
And I gotta say, Jedi Fallen Order and Survivor look good in Unreal Engine, but Frostbite still has an upper edge sometimes in details.
In particular with this sequence, it was amazing being able to go from a star destroyer to space and then landing onto the rebel vessel, all seamlessly in one map.
Imagine a corvettes that their purpose is anti fighter ship but destroyed by 1 eyeball lol
I mean lets be real here, that gigantic stack of engines is huge blindspot.
Any halfway decent Tie Pilot could probably shoot those down just by hiding behind the engines.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 Yes if the ship didn't just use tructers to bring the turret into firing position and one hit the tie
Great intro but then one person takes on the crew of an entire cruiser alone? ridiculously op. Also the smoke trails in zero atmosphere bug me, smoke particles would continue at the same velocity they released at and disperse uniformly with nothing to slow it down or mix with.
plot armor lol she literally wrecks everyone onboard
You understand this is fake right? Lol
@@tadowsky3488 but Star Wars is known for trying to have consistent and logical worldbuilding despite the more fantastical elements of the universe, like the force and lightspeed.
Audible explosions in space are impossible also. It's fiction, mate, just suspend your disbelief. Space wizards and laser swords aren't real either, remember?
Why just stop there? Lasers traveling slower than bullets, sounds in vacuum of space, Jedi magic, etc... Just enjoy the the game.
This is the first time that I see The Empire kicking the rebels' sorry arses, and it feels really good.
Mon Calamari/New Republic cruisers can be intimidating ships too even if they're the good guys. First, their appearance is far more alien and exotic than Star Destroyers. Second, because they're pretty big themselves. A kilometer of alien war material.
The technology they have is crazy too, such as redundant shields tech, and in the later stages of the war, they were heavily armed too
8:00 the ragdoll physics in this game is great 😂
7:42 I swear, hallways are the rebels weak spot.
This is a beyond laughable mission. Popping corvettes and shielded rebel fighters and then landing in an MC-80s hangar is hysterical 😂
Heh, yeah it would feel less silly if the player didn't seem to be on some kind of story mode difficulty. Make the damage lethal and reduce the number of troopers to make it possible. Maybe work in something like the defenses damaged it's engines so she just needs to take out one battery that can hit the SD, allowing it to escape.
Corellian Corvettes are super fast and excel at taking out fighters. It was a bit silly making it look like a few tie blasts would take one down.
Mate, it’s a video game
@@firingallcylinders2949 Yeah we've seen them take hits from Star Destroyers and not immediately collapse, this makes them look super weak
Lmao yeah. Feels totally like the Rebellion is a paper platypus, unable to mount an effective defense of any kind against one measly fighter/soldier.
4:37 That suddenly disappearing shadow when the ship explodes is a little strange.
This campaign would have been a lot more fun if Iden did not defect to the Rebel Alliance/New Republic. Her and her father could have been the ultimate father-daughter Duo that the Emperor entrusted to carry out Operation Cinder to destroy the Empire so the first order could be reborn from it from the ashes.
3:56 She looked away from the road to answer a text.
One thing I love about this section, is it perfectly shows the strengths of both factions. The rebels are absolutely devastating in sneak/surprise attacks, but when push comes to shove, the Empire absolutely dominates
Every time I remember playing the campaign of battlefront two I remember the promises we got concerning the Imperial side of the story. While we got some of it, it is really disappointing that past this point with Fondor we get nothing until the end and DLC. I know it is easier to market the Rebels and heroes of the GCW but come on, Haask as well had an insane story which could have been a DLC at the very least!
this campaign was actually pretty good, shed some light on post empire activities
Thought this was Star Wars Squadrons at first. Having space battles and 3rd person on foot sections seems better then only one of those options per game.
I love Empire based things. Especially that segment where you board the ship and have the rebels panic and scatter, not sure what to do. Really gives you that “Hell yea Empire” feel. Sucks this went the old “Go Rebels! Down with the Empire” deal. Wasted potential in my opinion
"Hell Yeah Empire" what fuckin franchise have you been watching where you would ever feel this way? They aren't at all the good guys. They're intentionally cartoon villains.
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons It’s not bad to want to do some villain things once in awhile. They got cool armor, weapons, uniforms, and more. Plus it’s a nice change of pace to root for the Empire every so often when almost every single piece of media glorifies the rebels and has the clear cut bad guys and good guys dynamic, never that gray bit that makes one think. It gets tiring after a bit
@@fearthewolf1175 "its not bad to want to be evil"
No, its UNDERSTANDABLE. But it is fucking bad. Even the parts of SW like Andor and Rogue One that do show the good guys doing fairly awful things, its always very obvious that the alternative is acquiescence and death.
You need to do some soul searching my guy.
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons Whatever mate. You do you and I’ll keep doin me
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons I think he meant that it's not bad to want to be evil specifically in a game. It's not really being evil, since it's only fictional.
@0:12. But the emperor is NOT dead…!
This was after the events of the return of the jedi
Your right I'm here
I've always loved the mon cal ships how there artistic but efficient and effective at the same time
yeah fr I especially love the MC75 and Home One class designs, such beautiful ships
i remember playing this campaign and for once i was happy to see another empire specific storyline like in 2005s bf2. but then it pulled a typical we are now fighting for the rebels and i was just sittin there thinking why would they ruin a good story line like that?
Really sad we didn’t get an entirely pro Empire game. This was a an easy set up. The Death Star would have had Millions of people on it. They aren’t all “bad”. Like do think the janitor was evil? If it’s a standard “military deployment” most of the people on that ship would have had their families with them. Very easy to make a sympathetic Empire story.
True but if the Empire was cruel then its only right that they experience the same type of cruelty they inflict back to them. Innocence proves nothing. The Rebellion was too soft and weak willed to do what needs to be done. Its a shame that Saw Gerrera's Partisans didn't succeed just because they were "bad guys" to the plot. They had the right idea of fighting fire with fire.
@cleeiii357 The problem with fighting fire with fire is when you become the fire to be fought against, Gerrera would've murdered a bunch of innocents at regular desk jobs if the empire employed them, even if it had nothing to do with propaganda or war. He likely would've turned into a dictator in his own right if he had succeeded in taking down the empire
@@mrp8008 Innocence proves nothing. They were a cog in the Empire's machinations. The Empire killed many many innocents, it's only just when millions of them also paid the price ten times over. Better Saw than the Empire, The New Repiblic was soft and weak and let remnant warlords exist instead of relentlessly hunting them down. If Saw was still alive, those remnants wouldn't have lasted. The New Republic gave then an inch, so they took a mile.
The Rebels: "The Empire is evil!"
Also Rebels: **proceeds to attack an unarmed Imperial navy without any justification.**
The Rebels have ample justification.
They are at war and a vulnerable ISD is a high value target.
The Rebels have done nothing wrong in this clip.
I am currently playing Tie Fighter Reimagined - And this Graphics Rail Shooter with unlimitted lives called SW Battlefront gives me the creeps as a SW Fan!
Is it stable? I used to love tie fighter but it rarely ran properly.
It's disappointing that the game didn't allow players to take on the role of the Empire's special forces for longer than 5 minutes, Keep in mind The Spec Ops groups are not often explored in the lore.
It would have been interesting to see them work alongside other groups to counter the Rebels' efforts to overthrow the galactic empire. However, the game quickly has the Inferno Squad switch sides, which was a missed opportunity.
It's a common theme with Disney that players cannot play as villains, even though the supposed hero faction has many flaws.
The Rebellion is portrayed as a heroic underdog faction, but the majority of its members are known criminals, terrorists, and smugglers which most of the above have committed war crimes and broken Galactic law & horrific if not straight-up monstrous acts upon the galaxy at large.
The Rebellion fought for the reconstitution of the Galactic Republic however before the Empire came into being for 1000 years after the Great Sith War, the Republic has allowed criminal groups and organizations to run free on the outer rim, leaving people to suffer without aid for centuries. The sequels showed that the Republic fell back into its old and corrupt ways, rendering the Rebellion's fight pointless. Although the Empire committed horrendous acts during its reign, They improved Galactic technology which was quite stagnant beforehand, and started to remove criminal elements from the outer rim. They also started to explore and map out unknown regions and planned to establish colonies. They also were slowly but surely ridding the outer rim of criminal groups & organizations and the only criminal organization to remain whole during that time was the Hutt cartel which keeps in mind they are quite cunning and intelligent species and would not go down easily and I could keep going on however this is already a lengthy discourse.
I mean working for a empire that blows up planets does make you evil and it can be rather hard to make it nuanced like yeah the rebels did x bad thing but its still not on the level of blowing up a planet so it would be hard to write a loyalist imperial who complains about the rebels doing bad things and then is perfectly fine with blowing up planets
@@wolves600 I see what you're saying. While it's true that the Empire destroyed one planet and tested their weapons on two others, it's important to note that Tarken destroyed Alderaan without the Emperor's permission. In fact, Palpatine was surprised and taken aback by Tarken's actions, especially considering Alderaan's long history and reputation as one of the most beautiful planets in the galaxy. The Death Star wasn't intended to be used to destroy planets, but rather as a symbol of the Empire's ability to protect its citizens and deter outside threats. It's like the real-world equivalent of nuclear weapons, which were built as a deterrent rather than for actual use. In fact, it's believed that the Emperor never planned to use the Death Star's full power and had it built as a precautionary measure against a potential invasion by the Yuuzhan Vong, a threat that Grand Admiral Thrawn had warned him about. While this is just a theory among the Star Wars community, there is evidence to support it, including Thrawn's own involvement with the Empire to protect the Chiss Ascendancy
This is well articulated :)
Thankyou@@ihavegymnastics
@@EternalDaybreak 1 year old comment, that was well articulated.
*Summary*
*Introduction and The Emperor's Death*
- 0:04: Meeting initiated with the line "you wish to see me sir approach."
- 0:13: News delivered that the emperor is dead.
*Retaliation and Undermining the Rebels*
- 0:19-0:21: Response to the emperor's death, "What happens now?" "We retaliate."
- 0:23-0:30: Discussion about undermining the foundation of the rebels.
*Discussion on the Source of Rebel's Belief*
- 0:33-0:39: Source of the rebels' belief is identified as "hope."
- 0:41-0:50: Messenger's presence is an honor, shared with commander's daughter.
*Operation Cinder*
- 1:04-1:14: Concepts of defiance must be eradicated.
- 1:20-1:57: Introduction of operation Cinder; upcoming assignments termed "unusual."
- 2:01-2:20: Specific tasks outlined to retrieve experimental satellites and oversee security.
*Combat Actions*
- 3:30-3:54: Task to intercept and destroy enemy Corvette and Blockade Runner.
- 4:02-4:08: Disabling of rebel ships.
- 5:00-5:24: All rebel ships destroyed, need to restore power to own systems.
*Enemy Trap and Next Steps*
- 6:11-6:48: Successfully traps enemy forces.
- 7:08-8:09: Line, "I'm on my way to you now."
*Sabotage and Combat*
- 9:03-9:35: Orders given to destroy cooling cells.
- 10:19-10:40: Additional rebels incoming.
- 11:18-11:47: Two cooling cells down, preparing explosives for the last one.
*Explosions and Aftermath*
- 12:02-12:26: Cooling cell explosion goes as planned.
*Further Objectives*
- 13:13-13:45: Objectives include destroying control tower and docking arm.
*Philosophy and Intentions*
- 14:17-14:51: Rebels must not discover intentions behind operation Cinder. Discussion on power and control.
*Final Actions and Closure*
- 14:53-15:05: Enemy fighters inbound, ordered to destroy them.
- 15:08-15:12: Satellites are one step closer to safety.
- 15:34-15:44: The Star Destroyer Dauntless is freed.
- 16:06-16:13: Closing remarks, "your father will be proud."
As I enter middle age, I find myself sympathizing more towards the Empire.
Wish you stayed Imperial this playthrough.
Perfect for Star Wars Day
Still better story and CGI than sequel trilogy :D
"Commander Versio, This is Moff Wraith, the rebel iron cannons have...."
*dies*
"......Never mind"
There is untapped potential in Star Wars Video Game media. Of all, only The Force Unleashed really played into it, but being a true evil villain in Star Wars is such an interesting role to play. Being a true cog in the imperial march, being a trooper executing order 66, beings Uber-powerful Sith are the exact power-fantasies gamers enjoy. Personally, I would love if they made an adult or serious toned game where you play as Vader in the first days of the empire as they transition from the republic and Vader takes the 501st to crush any Seperatist/Jedi sympathizers. Don’t make us have a good arc for the character, but instead make it a thoughtful experience where the gamer does things that makes them feel the temptation that power and evil can bring and showing them the awesome might of the empire to better appreciate the struggle the rebel alliance had to undertake against this force.
Will anyone make a full-length movie using this amazing animation technology?
We will surely watch it, the zombie-action genre will do, a cross between Resident Evil and the Walking Dead series.
Oh, that would be epic!
Success is determined by those whom prove the impossible, possible.
15:48 I can imagine the rebels in the Cruiser shitting their pants at this point
funny thing is according to disney the emperor isnt dead, unless he has a lower net worth than the same plot that was already repeated like twice at that point.
why couldnt the sequels use palps as the hologram instead of him as a clone
Cause it would make sense.
7:11 non-force assisted leap... and HOW DOES SHE GET BACK IN???? why not just extend a ladder or a rope? Why? WHY??? HOW???? 12:43
Game logic lol
Bill Burr's moment when his entire squad gets annihilated.
This game had so much potential, instead of “empire bad” “rebellion good” we should’ve just gotten a empire only perspective and it would’ve been 100% better
I'm going off toppic here. When I first played Empire At War, my first thought was why we don't see orbitaal defense space stations in the movies?
I like how the messenger droid emotes the message with its droid hands.
Why does that Ion cannon room look so much like the first mission of Halo 4???
Why is there just a lone Star Destroyer sitting in drydock by itself?
The ship was disabled so it couldn’t escape
@@mr_yooooda8147 That isn't the problem. Fondor, according to the Lore, was a major shipyard in that region of space. Why was there only one ISD, which was docked, an no other defensive ships or even escorts for the ship? Yeah, it's a game and the plot couldn't happen if there were more defences, but still.
@@magosmarechferracioli1128 The shipyards seem to be spread out in those little 'island' space stations(said to be 19 of them), unlike in Kuat where it's a whole ring surrounding the planet. Fondor is smaller than Kuat, so that makes sense - it's probably just not possible to see most of the other stations due to the sheer distance between them. ISDs are intended to serve alone without escort(though they rarely do so successfully) so it's not typical for them to have a protective screen of ships.
@@curtiswong7280 Fair.
Bunch of assholes officers were flushing baby wipes down the toilet and clogged decks 17 through 26 and needed to be snaked......
3:58 Well, that was a short game....
12:15 that slides hilarious LOL
It was a stupid plan when Hitler came up with it and it was still a stupid plan here. Nero for Hitler and Cinder for Palpatine but then Palpatine and the Empire did become comedy bad guys over time. Though it was cool to see Rebel troopers missing 90% of shots. :)
I just wish they'd make an actual game where you'd get to play as the empire instead of this
Tie Fighter was a great game back in the day
Don't you play as the empire completely in Squadrons? Well you go back and forth in 2 different perspectives. One in the rebellion and one in the empire.
@@dango6266 Yeah at least for the Empire story your character doesn’t defect and stays loyal until the end of the game. I enjoyed Squadrons so much and for that fact alone it’s underrated I think
You could try empire at war, it’s older but there’s mods that make it gorgeous. Play as the empire all you want, or another faction if that suits you
I will always have a soft spot for this game❤️such an amazing video game
Lol it doesn't matter how many ships the Empire destroyed after the Death Star was destroyed. Hope had started to spread across the galaxy. I like that the game gives a viewpoint of the Empire, but it was always destined to fall in canon. I think she should've at least been killed in the boarding scene tho. Nothing wrong with swapping to a new main character.
It's not like it hasn't been done or done well by others in the past at least....
A clone trooper even mentioned that
Animation is very well done in this scene/game.
Really creative job.
the one thing I hate about these games is that when flying a ship, its too slow. Look how fast everything goes in the films.
I see it's not just stormtroopers who can't shoot.
I wish they'd do games with better stories, something with alternate time lines, and allow the Jedi to have returned peace, and you could go undercover and have to use a blaster. Plus some vehicle fights, as you just need those.
I love that people playing those games so I don't have to and could watch the movies 😂😂😂
Sounds a bit like the UK Labour Government.
@0:45 So you're telling me that the Empire has Segway's?
Cant we get a game where we are just imperials? We know for sure the Rebellion lost a lot more than it won before the Emperor died. Give us that pov and yes we know we are meant to lose in the end. But make it so we are in a desperate last attempt to take down the New Republic and Luke comes and defeats us. He offers to take us prisoners. We can accept or die fighting. If we accept, we get an extra mission which is escaping. If we fail, we get locked up and if we succeed we live to fight another day. End of the game- bonus scene: We get a transmision from Thrawn. Boom 2nd game.
Love the way that hot Imperial chick is able to fly around blasting Alliance ships without being shot at.
Woman ☕️
That's a nice game. Good storyline ! Got it myself.
Looks like those rebel soldiers all went to the stormtrooper school of marksmanship.
I love that the Mandalorian made this game story more canon.
Admiral has seen the clone wars, the fall of the republic, the rise of the empire, but *these* are “unusual times”? Ight
"Operation Cinder. I had to make a lot of hard choices that day."
POV: when games from 2016 are better than games from today
Maybe it was just the options menu, but the action sequence this movie had a definite "video game" vibe.
Great gameplay wonderful
It looks better in first person. You should try it.
Awesomme game one player campaign was awesome and multiplayer is good too .
Fire rate is too fast, the tie fighter is moving too slow, the X-Wings don't dog-fight, her ship doesn't take much if any damage (Alliance had superior fighters) and then after boarding she is practically invulnerable.
All this makes it a joke. 🤷🏻♂️🤣
yeh the snub fighter speeds hurt my soul when i played this
Oh yeah, because the Battlefront series is totally known for being 100% lore accurate and plot armor is totally not a major plot thing in Star Wars, especially not when playing a game on easy difficulty
It’s a game
You would not attack a shipyard with a single Star Cruiser and a handful of corvettes unless you are trying to get everyone killed.
7:20 The "box," the "BOX!" 📦👀🤷♂ It moves! 😳😱😵🥴😵💫 I know, I know. It's a "GONK" droid.. 🤣🤣
i like the way the rebel cruiser disables the star destroyer and dosent then use turbolasers to destroy it
The Rebels were probably planning on capturing it.
After all the Rebel Alliance has plans for the Star Destroyers, and thats assuming they don't just give it a new coat of paint and use it against the Empire.
She’s gone full active shooter at 7:26. Kind of creepy.
Those corvettes would pop that tie in one shot.
Her mowing down an entire cruisers crew solo is also laughable.
Looks like something Cryptic Studios would do. You clearly missed the ship. But your ship blew up anyway.
Fondor? Where was Fondor when Alderaan fell? Where was Fondor when enemy crouded around us? Where was Fond-
How did they get graphics that good to run so smoothly. Even on my old PC with a GTX 1070, it looked and ran like a dream with everything maxed.
GTX 1070 is not that weak, actually
TL 80 and Helghast rifle from Killzone 1 top 5 video game weapons