"If they were left handed, I would've enjoyed hitting them too". Matt, we've seen that buttery smooth right handed swing of yours. You should've given them a go anyways. Great video!
Great info Ian and Matty. Comparing them to a Miura was really insightful to me. I saw the copper MiM Tours and the look amazing to the eye against the ball.
Look fantastic, great review ! Pity there are not being released in one length . Also guys don't ever be worried if ye are last to review a product because txg are always the best review hands down !
Just got fitted for a set of these in s-taper stiff 120, hit them soo well. It was between these and p770s in the same shaft but these were just perfect for me. Cobra never even entered my mind before the fitting, but so happy with them now !
Just ordered these along with p770, p790, t100, t200, zx7 and these had the edge on all of them for me. Feel, sound and dispersion was way better than i expected they absolutely blew me away. Got them with the kbs tour 90 shafts and 1* stronger lofts as the kbs 125 shafts were just too heavy for me. Cobra take a bow these are phenomenal clubs
As the snow will be on its way soon, could you compare/review launch monitors and simulators for home use? I’m looking at skytrak, mevo, Ernest, Optishot and no idea what to get
It would be an interesting test to try a bunch of irons with headphones on to block out your sense of sound to get a different perspective on only using your hands for feel
The 2008 Cobra CB Pro are on my mount rushmore of irons. I haven’t had the same feeling with Cobra since. Looking forward to trying these to see if they can rekindle the flame.
Interesting to hear your thoughts on the different sole designs and how they affect sound/feel/forgiveness. Would be great to see an in-depth video on the differences between a variety of iron soles and which ones suit particular types of swings. Keep up the great work!
@@kvgolfa Ah I see, thanks. So the MiM Tour is more of a scratch/low handicap type iron, and the Forged Tec more suited to low/mid? Then the Speedzone for mid/high to complete the range I guess
@@william_hartman Bryson plays at least some SpeedZone in his bag. I think it’s a split set, but just thought I’d mention it. You don’t necessarily need to define them by handicaps although I do see where you’re coming from and why that’s useful
I just finished a fitting and it came down to these and the P770 and I went with the Cobra mainly because of the softer feel and more of players sized head. The numbers were very close with the P770 having a little more distance but it just doesn't have that soft feel. Have them on order now just waiting on them to ship out. Keep up the good work guys...really enjoy your reviews!
@@stevefroggett6924 Looking down at them both the Cobra to me has a thinner top line compared to the P770 looking like a shorter fatter head if that makes any sense. However the difference in feel was the deal maker with the Cobra being a much softer feel.
@@jwalton2297 You’re the 2nd or 3rd person to have narrowed down between p770 and the Mim’s! I too did the same! I agree completely with your analysis, Mims felt softer for sure and I’m strongly considering them. If they looked (back) like the 770’s I would have got them weeks ago lol
@@1025theo they felt better than the other irons I tried (Srixons ZX7 and callaway). It had a lot to do with the shaft too. The KBS $ Taper was fit to me so the timing was better for my swing. I am about a 8 handicap but was down to about a 4 when I was playing more. I would think they would be great for mid handicap players. Try them out for sure.
You mentioned that the Miura irons are more forgiving on Ian's 'up and down' miss. It would be great if you could elaborate on that. What are the characteristics that provide forgiveness on thin shots? Some modern irons I have tried are brutally unforgiving on thin shots - my 30 year old Peerless PHDs are better!
It's a blown-up version of the Titleist 710 AP2s with the tungsten removed from the PW-8 which lowers the flight - all good things. The styling is a 'little' loud with the KING logo but I like their choice of lofts with a 33 degree 7-iron I think is spot on for the desired buyer
ANother one to add to my list of comparisons : Ping i210, Titleist T-100 and now this one . Awesome test. I think the T-100 with its Tungsten in the heel & Toe will be the best forgiving iron out of the 3
Just ordered these today after watching the videos again. They were hands down the best feeling iron I’ve hit all week trying nearly every club out there. Can’t wait to get them on the course. Feel sorry for the lefties not getting the opportunity to try them.
@@LifeLover2020 love them mate. Absolutely love them. Sound and feel of the face (when centre lol). I was going for Mizuno originally and these topped it for me not only fell but looked so much better.
@@johnpalmer5713 That’s awesome to hear! I’m so close to ordering them! Ha They topped everything I hit as well! They really are in a different league of feel.. a lot prefer and some aren’t sure ha I bet if they were put out by Mizzuno or another big brand they’d get more looks. I accidentally hit them when I was trying clubs! I was all about the Apex pro or 770, or HMB... nope, the others didn’t come close even the second time I was trying them all and my swing wasn’t in the best form. Ha Happy to hear Mate! What are ya swinging for driver? Wedges? Ever since the Bettinardi wedge video I’m super keen on them.
@@LifeLover2020 I watch tonnes of club reviews on them aswell prior to odering and as 16/17 hcp thought they would be too pure for me but not at all. Feel very confident t striking that 4iron aswell. They are slightly stronger lofted than most and give any stronger stupid distance. I’m running Vokey SM7/8 wedges and previous Epic flash driver with rogue 3wood lol.
I’m really liking the look of these irons. Typically not a fan of the look of Cobra’s irons. Is there any chance you will be getting a full set of the Wilson Staff Model CB irons to test?
Lover your reviews.. Could you all do a comparison between these Cobras, Mizuno HMB and the Hogan PTX irons with all the same shafts????? Oh what shafts did you have in theses Cobra King Tours??? Thanks....
I wouldn't say muira has ever felt soft. They actually have a firm feel that's incredibly solid. It just feels compact and almost like a high end maple wood bat vs a basic ash. If you've ever played wood bat baseball it's the best comparison I can think of. There's a density of muira that is firm but exceptionally pleasing. They make the absolute best wedges period for feel.
I’ve gone through so many iron sets this year that I went and bought a set of Callaway X14 irons to finish the season. Was my first set of irons that I broke 70 with. But I can’t stand looking at all the offset now! I like a bigger looking head than the T100. These will be on the short list demo, along with the 921 Forged. Thanks. ⛳️🏌🏽♂️
My Maxfli revolution irons, black dot and red dot (cast) were softer than my Mizuno (forged) mp5, mp25, JPX900 tours, tp 9's, Mx25, Titleist 712mb (forged), and Callaway X Tours (forged). The guy that would do my loft and lies, loved doing the Maxfli's. So soft and easy to bend!
Thanks for the review. Have watched all the usual suspects but wanted to see your view. Really impressed with the irons. They look great and think they will be going in the bag in the Spring.
How has that been!? I havn’t hit anything as nice as the Mim Tours! I play a 2011 Tour preferred MB/MC combo and when I’m on, they’re everything I could want. Distance on off center hits has been a struggle when I don’t play as much. I’m kinda wanting to combo the forged tec and Mims, and would love to know your thoughts on owning both??? 🙏🏻
@@LifeLover2020 they feel so different , they look so different too , how can you create a combo with an offset looking iron like the Forgedtech and a pure looking one like the Mims . I see a Mims- blade combo . Forged tech are delofted too , hard work to find the right gap in between irons . Do you think 5/6/7 forged ? Then what ? You think an 8 Mims will follow ? Nope , you have to bend it or your gap will be 25 meters or more .
@@user-fn3zh8nw4f Thanks for your feedback.. that was my thought process as well.. a fitter was saying it might be possible so I was thinking about doing it but I agree.. lofts are so jacked on the forged tec, I was really skeptical. Still love them? Any regrets selling the forged tec?
@@LifeLover2020 no regrets at all , I think my Mims are the best irons I have hit in years , they suit my swing perfectly . I’d like to buy the copper ones when will arrive in Europe .
@@user-fn3zh8nw4f Thats great to hear! I got my set of Mims and WOW...! Best set I’ve used. My 4/5 iron are now my favorite to hit.. never thought I’d say that. Even decided to drop the 3 since I rarely used to hit it but with how amazing I hit the 4, I think I will get a 3 if I can manage to get the same shaft as my set (nippon 120). Only thing that has taken adjusting is the size of the grips! I use to play standard tour velvet. The Mims I went with the standard Lamkin, which must be a +1/+2 in the tour velvet. The difference in grip sizes means I’m now so much more easily able to make the ball go left.. where I never saw a left ball with my last set. It makes my confidence so much lower and not sure if I should resift the set to the tour velvet standard to get more feel. I don’t seem to have an issue with the long irons .. it’s mainly P-8 that I struggle to lose right sometimes.
Just curious if you gents have talked to cobra about these irons and if there’s a reason they didn’t offer the one length in this iron? Seems like this is the iron they’d be hoping to get Bryson to play. I believe he’s still playing the Forged One irons from a few years back, and they don’t even sell those irons anymore.
Hey TXG Team - Excellent info on these tremendous clubs. Have you had any experience with adjusting lie/loft on these? Wondering if "new" manufacturing process makes that easier/harder?
Good morning, thx for the review guys. I was surprised how upright Ian is hitting those shots. Could you tell me, what are his lie angles set to? What allows him to stay that upright.
I was hoping something like this would be released from cobra. These provide a good option for a combo set with the Forged Tec. Could have Forged Tec in 4,5,6; King Mem tour in 7-pw ... for example. Maybe have Forged Tec in 7 iron as well. I like the Forged Tec ... but maybe prefer the smaller, more players look in the shorter irons. The Forged Tec might be a bit chunky for me in the 8-pw.
These irons are a long overdue replacement or evolution of the Cobra Forged Tour irons that Bryson dechambeau has been playing. Those irons hadn't changed much from the 2015 Fly-Z + irons or the 2012 Amp Forged irons that I play.
Hi Matt and Ian. Good video again. Can you please compare the Cobra MIM with the Cobra Forge Tec. It might help me to make a decision one way or the other. Cheers guys.
My questions would be if I play an old set of taylor made RAC LT irons for around 2003 or so and i am 12-15 handicap with and enjoy those irons would these Cobras be a good look see.
Nice looking Irons, though the backs are a little fussy for my taste. It will be interesting to see if other OEM's adopt Metal injection as a process to form their Irons, rather than using forging or casting. If I may climb on my high horse for just a moment, it does annoy me when the Golf industry claims that Forging makes a club feel soft. Forging is just a process that forms the shape of the club, the forging process has ZERO affect on the soft feel of an Iron, it's the grade of Carbon Steel that determines a clubs "soft feel". I just wish that the industry would stop peddling a myth and stop trying to con their Customers.
While I get not trying to have mishits skew the performance data, I wouldn’t mind a little add on section maybe called Forgiveness Considerations that show how the clubs reacted on mishits. I find it helpful to know the type of distance penalty or when you guys would talk about not perfect strikes and see how they performed. Hearing whoever is testing saying a strike was a bit toey or heely thin or fat and us seeing if it still got to the green and what portion was of benefit in my opinion. I know you all are much better golfers than I am, but I could video my swing for you to emulate for mishits. Let me know. I will be standing by. 😅
So i've got some experience in MIM products industrially (gears, etc.) - and im trying to figure out what parts of the head are actually metal injection molded - is it just the face? Because the whole head being metal injection molded isn't very practical. For example - i dont think i would WANT an injection molded hosel. Keep in mind metal formed by MIM cannot bend or flex at all - it is brittle - it cracks under strain. SO i really wonder here - is the whole iron head supposedly a MIM form? or just certain parts of it like the face or something?
On the Cobra website they make a big thing about the wedges being 100% injection moulded, but they don't mention it at all on the irons page so I think you might be correct.
Maybe a little - but not much. It comes down to plastic and elastic deformation. Powdered metal parts(MIM) at the microscopic level, are kind of like a sugar cube where as soft solid metals are more like bubble gum. You can stretch and bend the gum and solid metal, but the sugar cube just and powdered metal parts fracture and break apart if you apply too much stress. Will MIM parts of the club see forces that can break them apart, probably not - but the fact that they cant really inherently flex - and whether that even matters - is where the question of "feel" gets interesting! I can't wait to try them out!
@@erikjoven2388 I’m vaguely familiar with the manufacturing process & metallurgy. If I remember correctly, MIM just uses heat to bond the grains together, correct? I would think if some pressure was introduced it could create a stronger & more “flexible” bond. Though idk how one would go about that process.
Gents, i've been trying to apply larry cheung methodes on my golf swing. I noticed (youtube vid's)both of you have had lessons from larry. Any chance of doing a live lesson/ chat with larry on your channel. More insight on how you partnership (teacher (larry), students (TXG) has materialized to point that you guys are applying his swing methodes/ idea's.
It's pronounced "Mim" It stands for Metal Injection Molding, which is like plastic injection but uses a powdered metal and wax combination that is injected into a mold. The molded part is then baked to make it hard.
I had a chance to hit these directly against the Mizuno JPX Forged. I really think I like the Cobra iron better. I'll do a full fitting to be for certain but I loved the feel and look.
@@LifeLover2020 Strangely, I won a huge contest on THP golf forum. I had a chance to choose an even with clubs from Mizuno and Cobra. I went with Cobra because of these irons so I get 14 Cobra clubs... yes 14... stay tuned =)
@@vegas005 Mizuno, Titleist, Ping, Taylormade, Callaway, and Srixon all are 37inch 7-iron; in their player models at least. That's why I was curious if it was shaft or sensor related length in these.
@@BuffaloBarber24 I ended up getting both but at different times. I got the MIM Tour first and liked them (didn't love them) but they weren't really that forgiving. Played the 921 Forged after that and they were plenty good and forgiving but not as nice of a feel as the MIMs.
@@BuffaloBarber24 I'm a club slut. I went from the 921s to Cally X-forged CB and now I play Mizuno Pro 223. The X-forged I actually got fit for and played well with them. The 223s were just an experiment but I ended up loving the level of forgiveness and added distance.
i would have been shocked if these MIM irons felt as soft as $3,000 Miura irons lol. Curious to see how they'd feel compared to other "normal" forged irons, though
After playing with these for just over a year at least once a week. Ball movement is easy. Straight shots are nice. Extremely responsive with either a high flight or nock down shot. Your distance will greatly decrease if you miss hit. you can spin any iron do to the stock loft which is excellent. I got the bronze finish and there are little to no wear on the heads which I find amazing. The accro sensor in the grip is bull shit though lol and probably the shittest thing about these irons. 4 iron is a bit blady. Don't get these if your an average golfer im a 4 handicap and found the ball striking hard until I got use to it. In saying that I dropped a couple of digits once I figured them out.
Question: Do you have any experience with the copper version? I ask because I just got mine after waiting 2 months. I'm seeing tons of strike marks on the face, removing copper and showing silver underneath. I've only hit about 300 balls with the entire iron set at a grass range. I'm trying to find anyone else who has experienced anything like this. I've reached out to Cobra today asking if this is standard wear. I would love to hear your feedback. Thanks!
Mark Crossfield said they're one of the softest irons he's hit. Feel is mostly sound, so Cobra clearly muted the sound in some way to make these feel super soft.
These are interesting irons very cool process how they are made. I just wish Cobra would tone down their graphics. I know there are no bright colors but the giant black KING on the irons ruined the look for me. They just don’t need to shout.
Absolutely love what cobra has been doing over the past 5 years. So underrated.
"If they were left handed, I would've enjoyed hitting them too". Matt, we've seen that buttery smooth right handed swing of yours. You should've given them a go anyways. Great video!
Matt with the "Welcome back to the channel"😯 Had to do a double take
I think these are the best looking irons to be released in the latest new releases. Love the channel guys.
Solid work from theglasgowranger as per usual, cobra are really taking their brand to the next step!!
Great info Ian and Matty. Comparing them to a Miura was really insightful to me. I saw the copper MiM Tours and the look amazing to the eye against the ball.
Amazing as always boys. Love “the Glasgow ranger” tag 😂 🏴
Look fantastic, great review ! Pity there are not being released in one length . Also guys don't ever be worried if ye are last to review a product because txg are always the best review hands down !
Got fitted in them today with KBS C-taper 120S, very nice set.
Just got fitted for a set of these in s-taper stiff 120, hit them soo well. It was between these and p770s in the same shaft but these were just perfect for me.
Cobra never even entered my mind before the fitting, but so happy with them now !
Is the stuff shaft in these really heavy? I see they are 120g and curious how heavy they were. Thanks!
I absolutely love the looks of these irons! I’m a mid handicap, I wonder if I could game these?
Just ordered these along with p770, p790, t100, t200, zx7 and these had the edge on all of them for me. Feel, sound and dispersion was way better than i expected they absolutely blew me away. Got them with the kbs tour 90 shafts and 1* stronger lofts as the kbs 125 shafts were just too heavy for me. Cobra take a bow these are phenomenal clubs
Hey. Were these forgiving ? I’m looking at these and the P790s and trying to decide if these are as forgiving and as good?
the 1* stronger is a very good call. How fast is your swing?
As the snow will be on its way soon, could you compare/review launch monitors and simulators for home use? I’m looking at skytrak, mevo, Ernest, Optishot and no idea what to get
Practical-Golf.com has done some reviews of the personal launch monitors. I can’t recall which he’s done though.
Enjoy seeing Matt’s confidence behind the desk build with every episode. Would happily do a fitting with him. Keep up the good work lads!
These are more than likely going to be my next set of Irons.
It would be an interesting test to try a bunch of irons with headphones on to block out your sense of sound to get a different perspective on only using your hands for feel
The 2008 Cobra CB Pro are on my mount rushmore of irons. I haven’t had the same feeling with Cobra since. Looking forward to trying these to see if they can rekindle the flame.
Interesting to hear your thoughts on the different sole designs and how they affect sound/feel/forgiveness. Would be great to see an in-depth video on the differences between a variety of iron soles and which ones suit particular types of swings. Keep up the great work!
You guys really do meaningful and complete reviews of everything. Another good one......
Tour MIM vs Forged Tec, how to they compare in feel, forgiveness, etc. And what kind of player is each for? Thanks!
@@kvgolfa Ah I see, thanks. So the MiM Tour is more of a scratch/low handicap type iron, and the Forged Tec more suited to low/mid? Then the Speedzone for mid/high to complete the range I guess
@@william_hartman Bryson plays at least some SpeedZone in his bag. I think it’s a split set, but just thought I’d mention it. You don’t necessarily need to define them by handicaps although I do see where you’re coming from and why that’s useful
I don’t see MIM beAT big hitters like p770, p7mc, t100s or x-forged, 921
Can you guys review Wilson staff model CB ?
These irons are really sleek. Good looking irons
I just finished a fitting and it came down to these and the P770 and I went with the Cobra mainly because of the softer feel and more of players sized head. The numbers were very close with the P770 having a little more distance but it just doesn't have that soft feel. Have them on order now just waiting on them to ship out. Keep up the good work guys...really enjoy your reviews!
Aren’t they similar in size? With you saying that the cobra had a more players sized head - is the Cobra noticeably smaller?
@@stevefroggett6924 Looking down at them both the Cobra to me has a thinner top line compared to the P770 looking like a shorter fatter head if that makes any sense. However the difference in feel was the deal maker with the Cobra being a much softer feel.
@@jwalton2297 Gotcha, thanks for that. Not been able to test yet, but this helps. Thanks
@@jwalton2297 You’re the 2nd or 3rd person to have narrowed down between p770 and the Mim’s! I too did the same! I agree completely with your analysis, Mims felt softer for sure and I’m strongly considering them. If they looked (back) like the 770’s I would have got them weeks ago lol
Is the stuff shaft in these really heavy? I see they are 120g and curious how heavy they were. Thanks!
Just got fit into these at club champion. Really excited to get them. They really are nice irons
How did they feel? Would a mid handicapper be able to plate these?
@@1025theo they felt better than the other irons I tried (Srixons ZX7 and callaway). It had a lot to do with the shaft too. The KBS $ Taper was fit to me so the timing was better for my swing. I am about a 8 handicap but was down to about a 4 when I was playing more. I would think they would be great for mid handicap players. Try them out for sure.
You mentioned that the Miura irons are more forgiving on Ian's 'up and down' miss. It would be great if you could elaborate on that. What are the characteristics that provide forgiveness on thin shots? Some modern irons I have tried are brutally unforgiving on thin shots - my 30 year old Peerless PHDs are better!
Best Golf content on youtube. Will you guys please upload a video of that instrumental track that plays at the end of all the videos ?!
It's a blown-up version of the Titleist 710 AP2s with the tungsten removed from the PW-8 which lowers the flight - all good things. The styling is a 'little' loud with the KING logo but I like their choice of lofts with a 33 degree 7-iron I think is spot on for the desired buyer
ANother one to add to my list of comparisons : Ping i210, Titleist T-100 and now this one . Awesome test. I think the T-100 with its Tungsten in the heel & Toe will be the best forgiving iron out of the 3
Just ordered these today after watching the videos again. They were hands down the best feeling iron I’ve hit all week trying nearly every club out there. Can’t wait to get them on the course. Feel sorry for the lefties not getting the opportunity to try them.
How are they!?
@@LifeLover2020 love them mate. Absolutely love them. Sound and feel of the face (when centre lol). I was going for Mizuno originally and these topped it for me not only fell but looked so much better.
@@johnpalmer5713 That’s awesome to hear! I’m so close to ordering them! Ha They topped everything I hit as well! They really are in a different league of feel.. a lot prefer and some aren’t sure ha I bet if they were put out by Mizzuno or another big brand they’d get more looks. I accidentally hit them when I was trying clubs! I was all about the Apex pro or 770, or HMB... nope, the others didn’t come close even the second time I was trying them all and my swing wasn’t in the best form. Ha
Happy to hear Mate! What are ya swinging for driver? Wedges? Ever since the Bettinardi wedge video I’m super keen on them.
@@LifeLover2020 I watch tonnes of club reviews on them aswell prior to odering and as 16/17 hcp thought they would be too pure for me but not at all. Feel very confident t striking that 4iron aswell. They are slightly stronger lofted than most and give any stronger stupid distance.
I’m running Vokey SM7/8 wedges and previous Epic flash driver with rogue 3wood lol.
@@johnpalmer5713 are these forgiving ? How would you compare them to the p790?
I’m really liking the look of these irons. Typically not a fan of the look of Cobra’s irons. Is there any chance you will be getting a full set of the Wilson Staff Model CB irons to test?
Lover your reviews.. Could you all do a comparison between these Cobras, Mizuno HMB and the Hogan PTX irons with all the same shafts????? Oh what shafts did you have in theses Cobra King Tours??? Thanks....
I wouldn't say muira has ever felt soft. They actually have a firm feel that's incredibly solid. It just feels compact and almost like a high end maple wood bat vs a basic ash. If you've ever played wood bat baseball it's the best comparison I can think of. There's a density of muira that is firm but exceptionally pleasing. They make the absolute best wedges period for feel.
I’ve gone through so many iron sets this year that I went and bought a set of Callaway X14 irons to finish the season. Was my first set of irons that I broke 70 with. But I can’t stand looking at all the offset now! I like a bigger looking head than the T100. These will be on the short list demo, along with the 921 Forged. Thanks. ⛳️🏌🏽♂️
My Maxfli revolution irons, black dot and red dot (cast) were softer than my Mizuno (forged) mp5, mp25, JPX900 tours, tp 9's, Mx25, Titleist 712mb (forged), and Callaway X Tours (forged). The guy that would do my loft and lies, loved doing the Maxfli's. So soft and easy to bend!
Thanks for the review. Have watched all the usual suspects but wanted to see your view. Really impressed with the irons. They look great and think they will be going in the bag in the Spring.
The Cobra Forged Tour/AMP Forged/Fly-Z+ Forged has been the players cavity iron in Cobras lineup, don't think you mentioned them..
I love them
Wondering how they compare to the Cobra King Pro MB's? They look great though!
Always good to see Matty behind the desk, these would be a great candidate for a higher handicap player wanting to make the step up test?
These are really underrated irons. Get fit for the right shaft they really are perfect.
Good review, don't like the big KING logo on the back. It's just to big for a logo but other than that remind me of my 712 ap2's.
After using mine for a year now, there is minimal bag clatter with these irons. Pretty amazing for how soft it feels.
Great review. Just curious was Ian hitting x100 or s300 shafts in the Mims?
Interesting set. The choices these days are outstanding.
bought these love em the feel of them is smooth and buttery
Same! Best irons I’ve had.
Are they forgiving ?
@@BuffaloBarber24 No Lol definitely need to be a single digit handicap to play with these.
Great review guys 😉🏌️♂️⛳️🍻
I have sold my forged tec 2020 for Mims after a driving range session , pure contact and sound , old school loft
How has that been!? I havn’t hit anything as nice as the Mim Tours!
I play a 2011 Tour preferred MB/MC combo and when I’m on, they’re everything I could want. Distance on off center hits has been a struggle when I don’t play as much. I’m kinda wanting to combo the forged tec and Mims, and would love to know your thoughts on owning both??? 🙏🏻
@@LifeLover2020 they feel so different , they look so different too , how can you create a combo with an offset looking iron like the Forgedtech and a pure looking one like the Mims . I see a Mims- blade combo . Forged tech are delofted too , hard work to find the right gap in between irons . Do you think 5/6/7 forged ? Then what ? You think an 8 Mims will follow ? Nope , you have to bend it or your gap will be 25 meters or more .
@@user-fn3zh8nw4f Thanks for your feedback.. that was my thought process as well.. a fitter was saying it might be possible so I was thinking about doing it but I agree.. lofts are so jacked on the forged tec, I was really skeptical. Still love them? Any regrets selling the forged tec?
@@LifeLover2020 no regrets at all , I think my Mims are the best irons I have hit in years , they suit my swing perfectly . I’d like to buy the copper ones when will arrive in Europe .
@@user-fn3zh8nw4f Thats great to hear! I got my set of Mims and WOW...! Best set I’ve used. My 4/5 iron are now my favorite to hit.. never thought I’d say that. Even decided to drop the 3 since I rarely used to hit it but with how amazing I hit the 4, I think I will get a 3 if I can manage to get the same shaft as my set (nippon 120). Only thing that has taken adjusting is the size of the grips! I use to play standard tour velvet. The Mims I went with the standard Lamkin, which must be a +1/+2 in the tour velvet. The difference in grip sizes means I’m now so much more easily able to make the ball go left.. where I never saw a left ball with my last set. It makes my confidence so much lower and not sure if I should resift the set to the tour velvet standard to get more feel. I don’t seem to have an issue with the long irons .. it’s mainly P-8 that I struggle to lose right sometimes.
great review, nice looking set of irons.. no lefty love...
Just curious if you gents have talked to cobra about these irons and if there’s a reason they didn’t offer the one length in this iron? Seems like this is the iron they’d be hoping to get Bryson to play. I believe he’s still playing the Forged One irons from a few years back, and they don’t even sell those irons anymore.
I have these but really want the Takomo 201 or Haywood CB. You guys have tested them all. Pick one for me please!
You guys need to do a ZX5 and ZX7 review.
they will when Srixon send them those irons
the new zx stuff is not available in canada yet thats whys it hasnt been reviewed
Hey TXG Team - Excellent info on these tremendous clubs. Have you had any experience with adjusting lie/loft on these? Wondering if "new" manufacturing process makes that easier/harder?
Hi guys! how would you compare these Cobra MIM to the Wilson Staff CB? Thanks and great content!!!
Good morning, thx for the review guys. I was surprised how upright Ian is hitting those shots. Could you tell me, what are his lie angles set to? What allows him to stay that upright.
Been waiting for this review!
I was hoping something like this would be released from cobra. These provide a good option for a combo set with the Forged Tec. Could have Forged Tec in 4,5,6; King Mem tour in 7-pw ... for example. Maybe have Forged Tec in 7 iron as well. I like the Forged Tec ... but maybe prefer the smaller, more players look in the shorter irons. The Forged Tec might be a bit chunky for me in the 8-pw.
Could you test the new new level irons please!? Always a pleasure watching your videos and you two in your element, cheers lads!
These irons are a long overdue replacement or evolution of the Cobra Forged Tour irons that Bryson dechambeau has been playing. Those irons hadn't changed much from the 2015 Fly-Z + irons or the 2012 Amp Forged irons that I play.
This fits the market for the old versions of Forged TEC, after they moved that to the P790 market.
I think u guys set the bar with arccos in your fits good to see the OEMs get on the bus. 👍👍👍
Let's test them against your Miuras for feel 🤣 that's one of the funniest things I've heard. Mr Miura won't be losing any sleep, I guess.
Hi Matt and Ian. Good video again. Can you please compare the Cobra MIM with the Cobra Forge Tec. It might help me to make a decision one way or the other. Cheers guys.
When can we get an arcoss full review video? You gents always reference it and I’d love to see a video before I invest in it as well
My questions would be if I play an old set of taylor made RAC LT irons for around 2003 or so and i am 12-15 handicap with and enjoy those irons would these Cobras be a good look see.
Matty boy is seriously turning into a great fitter. Presence.
Nice looking Irons, though the backs are a little fussy for my taste.
It will be interesting to see if other OEM's adopt Metal injection as a process to form their Irons, rather than using forging or casting.
If I may climb on my high horse for just a moment, it does annoy me when the Golf industry claims that Forging makes a club feel soft. Forging is just a process that forms the shape of the club, the forging process has ZERO affect on the soft feel of an Iron, it's the grade of Carbon Steel that determines a clubs "soft feel". I just wish that the industry would stop peddling a myth and stop trying to con their Customers.
For a player gaming the older P770 head, more of the cb shape, will this set seem too large in head size? How do you think these would compare?
Was the pw a bit low on spin? Or does launch/ landing angle make up for it?
Any word of a one length version of these? I assume as a successor to the king forged one length that Bryson is still playing?
While I get not trying to have mishits skew the performance data, I wouldn’t mind a little add on section maybe called Forgiveness Considerations that show how the clubs reacted on mishits. I find it helpful to know the type of distance penalty or when you guys would talk about not perfect strikes and see how they performed. Hearing whoever is testing saying a strike was a bit toey or heely thin or fat and us seeing if it still got to the green and what portion was of benefit in my opinion.
I know you all are much better golfers than I am, but I could video my swing for you to emulate for mishits. Let me know. I will be standing by. 😅
Great video. Looks more like the PSi to me from the back
Beautiful irons.
So i've got some experience in MIM products industrially (gears, etc.) - and im trying to figure out what parts of the head are actually metal injection molded - is it just the face? Because the whole head being metal injection molded isn't very practical. For example - i dont think i would WANT an injection molded hosel. Keep in mind metal formed by MIM cannot bend or flex at all - it is brittle - it cracks under strain. SO i really wonder here - is the whole iron head supposedly a MIM form? or just certain parts of it like the face or something?
On the Cobra website they make a big thing about the wedges being 100% injection moulded, but they don't mention it at all on the irons page so I think you might be correct.
I have no experience in MIM, but I wonder if the type of raw materials used could change the brittle/flexibility issue.
Maybe a little - but not much. It comes down to plastic and elastic deformation. Powdered metal parts(MIM) at the microscopic level, are kind of like a sugar cube where as soft solid metals are more like bubble gum. You can stretch and bend the gum and solid metal, but the sugar cube just and powdered metal parts fracture and break apart if you apply too much stress. Will MIM parts of the club see forces that can break them apart, probably not - but the fact that they cant really inherently flex - and whether that even matters - is where the question of "feel" gets interesting! I can't wait to try them out!
@@erikjoven2388 I’m vaguely familiar with the manufacturing process & metallurgy. If I remember correctly, MIM just uses heat to bond the grains together, correct? I would think if some pressure was introduced it could create a stronger & more “flexible” bond. Though idk how one would go about that process.
Can we get a Titleist Pro V1x white vs yellow? Read some interesting claims that they perform differently.
The GLASKOWRANGER swinging well today! 😁
Gents, i've been trying to apply larry cheung methodes on my golf swing. I noticed (youtube vid's)both of you have had lessons from larry. Any chance of doing a live lesson/ chat with larry on your channel. More insight on how you partnership (teacher (larry), students (TXG) has materialized to point that you guys are applying his swing methodes/ idea's.
They look very similar to the older Ap2's, 710/712 no?
It's pronounced "Mim" It stands for Metal Injection Molding, which is like plastic injection but uses a powdered metal and wax combination that is injected into a mold. The molded part is then baked to make it hard.
The MIM is the next generation of the Cobra Fly Z+/ King Forged Tour irons. Y’all should check them out.
Agreed, I play the King Forged Tours now and love them (Bryson seems to as well :))
Great video guys 👍
Love your reviews!
Sounds a good iron i love my forged tech black.
I had a chance to hit these directly against the Mizuno JPX Forged. I really think I like the Cobra iron better. I'll do a full fitting to be for certain but I loved the feel and look.
I agree!!!
Did you end up trying them again???
@@LifeLover2020 went with Cobra. Waiting on them to arrive
@@ermangus oh nice! When did you order them???
@@LifeLover2020 Strangely, I won a huge contest on THP golf forum. I had a chance to choose an even with clubs from Mizuno and Cobra. I went with Cobra because of these irons so I get 14 Cobra clubs... yes 14... stay tuned =)
These clubs are listed as half an inch longer than "standard" (i.e. the 7 iron is 33* and 37.5in); is that because of the arccos sensors?
Cobra irons have always been longer shaft wise, every model I believe
37.5 is standard
@@vegas005 Mizuno, Titleist, Ping, Taylormade, Callaway, and Srixon all are 37inch 7-iron; in their player models at least. That's why I was curious if it was shaft or sensor related length in these.
@@BurghBeezer94 it has to be shaft, I owned the forged mbs with standard grips and the length was 37.5.
@@Coriiiiiiiiii Thank you.
when are you guys reviewing the new Srixon irons and drivers
Interesting price point, $185 per club is steep! Seems high for Cobra considering you can get Mizuno 921 tour and T100 for $20 less per club!
Never been a fan of cobras but they look pretty good 👍🏻
I noticed you referenced the JPX 921 Forged. Do you think the Cobra irons are as forgiving as the 921 Forged? I'm trying to decide between them.
What did you decide on?
@@BuffaloBarber24 I ended up getting both but at different times. I got the MIM Tour first and liked them (didn't love them) but they weren't really that forgiving. Played the 921 Forged after that and they were plenty good and forgiving but not as nice of a feel as the MIMs.
@@xxthadeucexx what do you play now
@@BuffaloBarber24 I'm a club slut. I went from the 921s to Cally X-forged CB and now I play Mizuno Pro 223. The X-forged I actually got fit for and played well with them. The 223s were just an experiment but I ended up loving the level of forgiveness and added distance.
i would have been shocked if these MIM irons felt as soft as $3,000 Miura irons lol. Curious to see how they'd feel compared to other "normal" forged irons, though
How do these compare to the Srixon zx7 ?
Any chance of looking at the zx5 and zx7
After playing with these for just over a year at least once a week. Ball movement is easy. Straight shots are nice. Extremely responsive with either a high flight or nock down shot. Your distance will greatly decrease if you miss hit. you can spin any iron do to the stock loft which is excellent. I got the bronze finish and there are little to no wear on the heads which I find amazing. The accro sensor in the grip is bull shit though lol and probably the shittest thing about these irons. 4 iron is a bit blady. Don't get these if your an average golfer im a 4 handicap and found the ball striking hard until I got use to it. In saying that I dropped a couple of digits once I figured them out.
One of the reasons I play right handed despite being a lefty. Not as many options for lefties out there unfortunately
They look sleek🔥
Question: Do you have any experience with the copper version? I ask because I just got mine after waiting 2 months. I'm seeing tons of strike marks on the face, removing copper and showing silver underneath. I've only hit about 300 balls with the entire iron set at a grass range. I'm trying to find anyone else who has experienced anything like this. I've reached out to Cobra today asking if this is standard wear. I would love to hear your feedback. Thanks!
I haven’t heard of this so far but I’m not too surprised. This is pretty coming from a coating or finish on irons.
The copper is a coating, so yes, very normal.
Im having these same problems. Kind of frustrating. Did you hear back from Cobra?
They sound so soft. Don't know what Rick Shiels is going on about
He gives his honest opinion Mr Shiels, cant blame him for that.
Mark Crossfield said they're one of the softest irons he's hit. Feel is mostly sound, so Cobra clearly muted the sound in some way to make these feel super soft.
Tour mim or 718 tmb???
Does anyone know if you can adjust lie angle with these?
Yes you can, 2 degrees comfortably
Love these
These are interesting irons very cool process how they are made. I just wish Cobra would tone down their graphics. I know there are no bright colors but the giant black KING on the irons ruined the look for me. They just don’t need to shout.
The Secret of MIM.
These look nice!
"Swing delivery issue" lmao