Korean College Student Forces 100 Girls To Mutilate Themselves On Camera LIVE For His Chatrooms
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The fact that being sexually assaulted in Korea can ruin your chances at a career or good life is insane.
Right? It just show how they view women in their society, they treat mothers and divorced women like trash in there, imagine a SA victim!
This!!! They are victims, that infuriate me
korea is korea, both south and north korea suck. i feel terrible for their people but there’s nothing we can do, and it’s so frustrating. basically every messed up thing she discusses is in south korea. and it’s usually SA related and nobody ever helps them. remember the one from the guys in the burning sun? this case reminds me of that…
It's the same mentality that women get stoned to death for being sexually assaulted... it's insane the mental gymnastics ppl are willing to do to so they can preserve their world view...
Meanwhile being the perpetrator of these acts will get you a lighter sentence and a protected identity
The fact that there were 250k+ men who were willing to take intimate pictures of their daughters, sisters, mothers, nieces, in order to join those chatrooms it's utterly disgusting
Same thing recently happened on FB in a dad group
@@CarmellaCake11wow, the internet needs to be shut down once or twice a week, it’s only going to get worse.
People are bad
@@CarmellaCake11 😔
This kind of shit makes me feel such deep hopeless despair. I cannot trust anyone, it feels like. ANY person around me could be this kind of sick person that would readily torture and violate me.
If a victim was to retaliate and actually cause harm to her abusers, I guarantee her jail sentence would be longer
Well there have been cases like that where women and girls murder their abusers and get sent to jail even if they had no other choice than to kill them, it’s so backwards and disgusting
in korea, definitely. their government is so fucked up.
@@Claire._Hwang people romanticize Korea so much, I’m waiting for them to realize their system is beyond fucked.
Yup, that's consistently true of carceral systems in every patriarchal society.
A feminist movement begins, due to terrible, mind breaking abuse. Men begin to complain. Women in these movements, are usually the victims. They're accused of being man hating, slutty lesbians. The movement is hijacked by the same autogenophiles who usually cause the abuse, in the first place! Now they're women, and of course they should as women, have access to our most vulnerable's spaces! The freaks follow their victims, no matter where they go! We can see the evidence of evil all around us. The predators usually follow their victims, while crying of oppression, so they can rape, rob, and completely dehumanize their chosen victims. Somehow it's always the victims fault! We can see this behavior at work, with almost all victims, and the predators that feed off of them, while crying (ABUSE)!
Who abuses children at 6 months old? Not only is that disgusting, it’s straight-up inhumane.
It’s so unimaginably horrid that it makes you question if there even is a god if he allows these things to happen…
@@jesuuschgod gave us free will so we arent brainless zombies
@@jesuuschI understand what you mean but as a religious person believing that there is hell and that those people, all of them, will get punished there does help me whenever I find out about stuff like this, especially when the punishment they receive in this world is nothing compared to the pain they caused ...
this makes no sense, abuse of any aged child, minor, teenager, even abuse of adult women are inhumane
who abuses children in general
By the books, South Korea is listed as an extremely safe country for women. Why do I have the feeling there are so many assaults that are not reported or looked into???
when the victims are always shamed MORE than the perpetrator???????????? no wonder women and KIDS dont speak up.
I don't believe that SK is that safe anymore since the spycam thing broke out many years ago.
Nah it's not safe. Just coz the reports r less doesn't mean the crime rate against women is low too. Most women choose not to speak up due to fear of shaming ...
what books?
Tends to be what is going on. Any country that says it's low in a certain amount of crime probably just doesn't consider all the variations of that crime a crime. Like how marital r- isn't considered a crime in many countries, and wasn't even one in America until very recently.
I remember reading about how one of the nordic countries has a particularly high amount of sex crimes. But it turns out it's caused because they actually try more cases and consider more types illegal - such as coercion or lying about using protection being a crime. It's the kind of place you should want. No place has few or no r- happening. You want to be the place where they actually consider it illegal and take it to court.
At this point, I no longer want to hear anything about the decline of birth rate in Korea cos why are the government complaining that there are no more babies meanwhile they can't prove themselves able to protect the ones they have and instead almost always side with the perpetrators while hiding under the banner of "the law". This case is so infuriating, my heart goes out to all the victims.
the 4B movement needs to get bigger and the rest of the world should take notes too
They were caught.
frr
@@lloydgush So? Two of them down, and all the men that willingly SA'd a woman just to enter the chatroom are still out there
@samirdamiangomezpertuz6038 more than two. A few hundred, If I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, not all, just the worst.
I love how they said "But they just watched and did nothing wrong" but like wasnt one of the rules to submit a video themselves?? So to watch they themselves had to commit a crime
They hopefully used AI
@@bashleyrespectfully4562 this happened 2018-2019. theres no way
@@bashleyrespectfully4562ai fucks up hands and stuff it would be too obvious
even after getting in the chatrooms
They were able to get in other ways as well- you can get in literally just by being invited by others that are in there. If you find it on your own then that’s when you have to provide material I believe. It can also be found just through Google. Many different options but some people are depraved and disgusting
They were not sorry, they were only sorry for being caught.
Exactly
5 million people petitioning for his identity to be revealed... You know you fucked up BIG TIME if 5 million people demanded for your identity to be revealed.
Doxxing is a crime
@@yasminaunicorn3735and so is organizing a CP ring and allowing people to SA children. If you do this shit you hardly deserve human rights.
@@yasminaunicorn3735 i would argue that CP, ass-ult, r@pe, etc are WAY worse
@@yasminaunicorn3735and child r*pe isn’t?
@@yasminaunicorn3735 there are acceptable targets for some crimes, doxxing is one of those
And ppl still blame korean women as "radical feminists" for the low rates of marriage and birth when these are the kind of men in their society😢
Just so sick. My country you will be sentenced to life. Last moth month 36 year old raped 14 year old he was sentenced to life . Don't mess with children, women and orphans. Infact a ministry is created for gender, children and women. Abusing children,women and you will get your ass kicked.
trust me korean men are like indian men. they have the same mindsets towards women
🤮🤯😭😡
@@coxqxz from what I see in social media comment sections, I think what you said was valid. There are always tons of indian men attacking female content creators when they're discussing gender inequality issues like it was women who started the bloodiest bloodshed wars in this world. Damn..... ppl who said this world is beautiful are insane.....
@@coxqxzThey see them as object and that's so sad and messed up
this is by far the most disturbing and disgusting case ive ever heard 😭
IKRR
Ik eh and I feel like no one’s talking about it cuz this video is the first time I’ve heard of this. But she gained a new subscriber cuz holy shit this girl is amazing at storytelling
It's the same with Eppsteins case!
@@eafesaf6934if anything this could be worse than that.
Exactly and i feel like i cant watch it anymore cuz its so disgusting and its horrible!
Someone explain how this is not considered domestic terrorism legally.
I mean sending men to chase after victims, stalk them, SA them, threaten to dox them, all of this sounds straight out of a mob movie
Because it's against women, not a government 😡😡😡😡😡
Or should I say just targeting women...not the government
@@qjames5808 to be a domestic terrorist you have to be a politically motivated person creating terror/mass unrest amongst a populace
Domestic terrorism is politically motivated, this wasn't.
Don't you just love it when buffoons with absolutely no clue comment on something and "lecture" you.
"domestic terrorism: the committing of terrorist acts in the perpetrator's own country against their fellow citizens."
Imagine doxxing all these young girls and women to be assaulted and then saying it’s “petty and manipulative” to have your identity given to the public. 🤦🏻♀️
The f***cking audacity… it’s like…. Does this dude really believe he doesn’t deserve this?
@Anna-vl2niYeah. He probably does. These types of people never believe abutting is ever their own fault. They're blameless thwarted victims that others are rudely interrupting them.
@raven3moon Yeah, definitely a psychopath narc through and through. Of course, they will adamantly deny this, as they typically do. Whether he was born like this or shaped into this I don't actually care. Because his actions are absolute lunacy. It's just cruelty for cruelty's sake.
@@Anna-vl2niit’s spelled
C O W A R D. He’s too scared.
@@yoyohayli I'd say more of a sociopath or malignant narcissist, given the vindictiveness and need to force pain onto others. Most actual psychopaths wouldn't care enough to do all of this. He would've seen them more as curious lab rats than "slaves." More along the lines of "I wonder what they'd do if...?" Pleasure wouldn't really be a part of it. So I think either sociopath or malignant narcissist. There are some absolutely disturbing people in this world.
As a person from a third world country, I can say that South Korea's justice system is a joke. This is disgusting.
*After listening-watching so many horrible cases, my conclusion is that South Korea is the most corrupt country that I know. Justice System, population and politicians with their strong sense of "Save Face - keep up appearances" is sickening.*
It’s almost surreal sometimes.
It seems like a lot is all about saving face and while being openly misogynistic.
I was learning about the fake cloning scandal from the 90s, and it was the same way then, too. Saving face and pressuring women to donate eggs for the sake of the country (which is quite painful, btw).
@@VeronicaMoreno-qd8yh Definitely not the worst if you look into authoritarian governments like Russia and China, but it's up there. What shocked me personally is that unlike Russia or China, South Korea seems to be a prosperous nation heading towards modernity. It's like a shiny, crisp apple, but once you bite into it, it's rotten on the inside.
@@ammonitedream China is so much better than Korea (both Koreas) first of all, it's not the 'authoritarian' people think it is, there's way too many lies about China that have brainwashed people into thinking it's worse than North Korea, so far from the truth, people in China live happily, they can express themselves, their cities are squeaky clean, it's super safe for everyone, you can go out alone at night, nothing will happen, practically no robberies and no harassment for women like in South Korea or Japan, actually Chinese girls have a lot of power and they are very respected in society, they have come a long way from being a backwards patriarch country to giving women their rights and respect. and the best of all, they have good laws that work so people feel protected!
To all the young or old men and women seeing this; if you are in a situation where someone is blackmailing you like this, please tell a trusted adult. It doesn't matter what the blackmailer has on you, you deserve to be protected and I promise it will be worth it. Tell someone, please.
making the girl record herself at the police station bc they knew the police were watching in the chat rooms and could do nothing is so so sick
A citizen gambling: LIFE in prison
A citizen smoking w**d: LIFE in prison
Some random dude on the net distributing illegal videos: a slap on the wrist.
The math ain’t mathing…
Because women are seen as a group to whom anything can be done with impunity
when the victim is a woman, no one cares...
And they call that society virtuos & highly educated. About that…
Before I say anything else, I have to warn you that, unless you can handle listening to the description of unspeakable acts against children, your research into the Franklin Scandal should be limited to its Wikipedia page.
However, if you possess an ironclad constitution, Leader One Studio's coverage of the Franklin Scandal (presented in their Human Monsters series of videos) is second to none.
Doing so would go a long way towards helping you understand why a blind eye is turned towards a lot of these brutally destructive crimes against humanity.
the first two doesn't come with a life imprisonment. i don't see any math. just ignorance.
Not a single person who paid for those horrific videos went to prison.
Korean law does not protect women, it only protects men.
Korean men must've been handed 'get out jail' free passes from birth.
@@Bubblevicious True
@@Bubblevicioushi bubbles u shouldn't be learning about Korea women
meanwhile in the west law only protects women
@@BubbleviciousMany of the people that paid were foreign not just Korean men
They should ALWAYS release the names of these monsters (the room creators and the watcher’s) because these people think they can get away with being child predators!
It's heartbreaking that they're right, they can!
Exactly, let natural justice deal with them
This story made me cry. I physically feel sick.
Same:
Same:/
The fact that being seen as a 'feminist' is sometimes seen as a larger threat in South Korea than the men and incels that participated in the Nth room. How are these men and even politicians arguing "is it technically wrong to watch videos for pleasure?" THEY WERE WATCHING CP. CHILDREN!! THAT SHOULD BE A CRIMINAL OFFENSE!
it is a crime.........
@@xiahe6708 Oh, yes. It is and yet these people are acting like it isn't and they aren't being punished as criminals either 🤢
feminism has done more than men. for example banning child marriage but ofcourse men are angry about that
Thats why im on stephanies side, like they HAVE to be looking at this stuff themselves to just treat this like its any other porn on the internet
Those politicians where probably watching it and getting their rocks off as well this is the F****d up world were living in.
The fact that south koreans have better laws for people caught using weeds than for such situations is exactly why such people never stop
They hate women
That country never seem to surprise me
@@Playsinthedirtnaw..in most states 🍃 is legal and in the others it’s basically decriminalized. And CP is almost guaranteed to be a life sentence at this point.
THIS. it sickens me and makes me fume. til when??? what is it gonna take for them to wake up? I'm so confused
Weed is like the worst thing ever but men can get less punishment for a sex crime if he claims he was drunk. The most irrational thing I ever heard. With that logic alcohol should be illegal! If it can cause men to commit such crimes. Now let's see how many will come from being stoned?? Very little bc it makes you feel empathy
This makes me as a teenage girl terrified, people like this are still out everywhere and I mean it’s scary, the internet is scary as these men proved it not that hard to get someone’s address or to get blackmail or explicit content and it’s super worrying
cod players:
Remember anything you put out there stays out there and that anyone you meet online is a potential threat. Don't trust anyone online whose identity you can't verify and don't let anyone talk you into doing shit you're uncomfortable with; if you have an interaction that leaves you with a gut feeling that something's off, TRUST YOUR GUT & GTFO. Good luck.
Take care, stay away from men.
Imagine living in a society where you’d rather mutilate yourself than have everyone see your naked photos. I think we are also to blame for how we treat victims of sexual abuse. If those victims lived in a more supportive and understanding society, they would’ve never had to go through literal hell!
You cant blame society for not wanting their imperfect bodies shown lol wtf
@@AnoBananoSROwhat’s a watcher doing under this video 🤢
@@user-hq3fd2th7b imagin thinking its societies fault for young women not wanting their body be shown. What a pathetic excuse of oxygen waste
@@AnoBananoSRO a watcher has been spotted. it's always the men that look like jabba from the troll that say nonsense like this.
Send all 250K+ men to jail. Nah they won't because I bet you some higher ups are in that list. Like the Epstein's list.
It's so corrupt
Don't even need to bet since Steph brought up some politicians statements...
Exactly!!! It makes no sense the world over these crimes have little to no penalty. It only makes sense because the ppl doing it make those laws.
I’m sure there are people in the police/judicial system too…
How do you arrest 250,000 people?
This whole case is so disgusting. I could feel the acid in my stomach just imagining the horror and sheer anxiety those poor girls had to endure.
@@JuicyUTTP bro what
@@JuicyUTTPreported
@@Ren-by3pl i hate you :)
@@JuicyUTTP do you think this will make people talk to you more ? are you really that lonely lmaoo
I threw up in my mouth a few times, listening to this... I am horrified
This depresses and scares me so much, the fact that so much CP exists out there makes me realise that p*dos are way more common than i thought, and so is child abuse 😢 the US has many flaws but i applaud its laws that punish these types of criminals.
As always, brilliant storytelling and research!
Reason why my niece has very little access to social media.
@@Fallenfromgrace1990But how much access do the teachers, students, neighbors, your family members and their parents have access to her?
Do consider that Alot of these things are happening around and close to you.
I genuinely not saying this as edgy paranoid dipsheet on the internet.
I am genuinely warning you of the consequences of close people here in her and your life.
at this rate
every single women will leave the country and leave all the men to SA each other
Fr
The fact that no one is acknowledging that the victims were CHILDREN is mind boggling. The way the users are defending themselves is disgusting. They knew exactly what they were viewing and trying to defend it by saying "they looked like they enjoyed it" is stupid, because regardless THEY ARE CHILDREN! Release their names!
To be frank I don't think South Korea knows what its own age of consent is right now. Google reports anything from 13 to 16 and even 20 for consent. Also if you ask it 'at what age do you come of age in South Korea?' it reports 18 years old.
So the age of consent could be as low as 13 or as high as 20, but you're an adult under the law at 18. The phrase "age is just a number" never felt more accurate. What a mess. For real with this in mind how would you define a "child" under South Korean law?
How are people in countries with this issue meant to date or marry at all? How do they know when they ask for ye old ASL (age sex location) that the person they're trying to get with is actually acceptable for them to pursue a relationship with?
Japan has the same problem. They spent 300 years with the population coming of age at 20 years old, and changed it to 18 circa Late 2022 and Mid 2023. And their age of consent was 13 between 1907 and 2023 at which point it was changed to 16. Somehow they expect the population to change their mentality on the normal they conditioned them into over the course of centuries overnight right now, completely ignoring that humans don't work like that.
@@sylviadelaney245what? Age of consent if for sex but im pretty sure between plp the same age. Not a 30 yo man
@@user-sg4ov7ng4h No. Age of consent can be for anything from having s3x to marrying. For the later some countries require the parents of the younger person in the pair that will wed to give their permission/blessing, but some have no requirement at all allowing grown men (or grown women) to p-r-e-y on young girls or boys.
PS: Part of why age of consent can be as low as 13 on average (it can and has been even lower in especially underdeveloped countries) has to do with 10 years of age being when many cultures consider someone capable of knowing both right from wrong and being able to decide for themself what they want.
This is rooted in partial truths from a historical standpoint, but it clashes with present day thought process on how humans mentally and emotionally mature vs how they mature physically and biologically.
The former is the same kind of status quo of ages past that resulted in the youngest female pregnancy (age 4, gave birth at 5; the father was speculated to be way older than 30 though his identity remains unknown, and I'm sorry if that hurts your sanity). I'm not joking you can Wikipedia it. The mother in question is still alive (aged 90 today).
Also for context as horrifying as the fact is that she became pregnant and gave birth while that young is not considered to be normal thing. It's one of only around 12 documented cases throughout history of pregnancy and childbirth happening due to a girl having gone through precocious puberty (incredibly early puberty). The woman in question is from Peru.
Meanwhile countries who have much higher age of consent (16+) have such an age of consent due to present day thought process, influenced heavily by studies done between the 1960s and 1990s.
Age of majority/age of adulthood is by contrast more about things like when you can drive with a license (which means 24/7) instead of with a permit (which comes with curfew limitations), as well as when you can legally smoke and drink, and when you can be held fully (as opposed to partially) accountable for possession or use of drugs that are either illegal or require a prior authorization with details for why the drug(s) is/are necessary for the patient from a physician.
Also before cars were invented age of majority was also when women interested in serving their country via their military that allowed women to fight would first be considered for enrollment if there was no war going on that was going so poorly that they had no choice but to send women to the front lines to support the men.
And it was also historically the age at which women who were educated could have governance related influence (not voting necessarily, but voicing opinions and being taken seriously on some level rather than immediately having their opinions dismissed as coming from the dumber of the two s3xes).
@@user-sg4ov7ng4h na I think the age of consent in a couple Asian countries like Japan and SK had recently risen to a more global standard. It use to be 13. There’s were even adult film stars who were 13 in Japan.
@@Pissbaby991It wasn't 13 though, that's misinformation
I'm so tired of the systematic violence against women and girls. It's like no girl or woman is safe, not safe at work, home, school, in public, not safe from your own family, friends.....it's sick and stressful to constantly be on guard.
Girl and it’s against BABIES!! That one dude who had 51 years worth of footage?! Like I always say CSA isn’t sexual at all, r@pe is VIOLENCE, period. I don’t see chat rooms of thousands of women doing this sick shit
*Well that use to be the male role, (protect their woman, protect their children, protect their homes etc)...and then came the all knowing Feminist showing us how NOT to be a good wife, how not o be a good mother, a good Lover or a good partner etc because now it is ALL ABOUT ME.. Destroying their masculinity was a big mistake.*
@@VeronicaMoreno-qd8yhhoney I hate to tell you this, but violence against women was an issue even during the period you’re referring to. Women just had even less power to leave. Glorifying the past only serves to gloss over the huge systematic issues that existed back then.
@@VeronicaMoreno-qd8yh you have actually lost your mind, but if saying these things makes your miserable life better, I guess that's cool.
@@VeronicaMoreno-qd8yh 🤨 u weird asf get help
The judges were probably watchers themselves, 18 months sentence is an insult to the victims
It seems like the victims would have a worse reputation than the evil people do. This is so disturbing
At this point, the women will just have to create a vigilante group and deliver their own form of justice. Because that 42 years means absolutely nothing.
At this point women need a different planet altogether 😭
@@asp11177Please take us non-binarys with you 😂😂😂 im NOT staying on earth with ONLY MEN - world would fall in 2 months 🤣🤣
@@asp11177 I've been thinking that.
@@dnbd_3026like yeah I am gay/non binary and no I would rather live under women rule then men! Like men are weird this case changed everything for me I don’t know how extreme feminism might be it’s never wrong to me from now on if men are this extreme than they have no right to play the victim (I am not talking about all men I am talking about those sadist and filth vermin men and you know yourself if you reading this and u are a man )
I'm in! I'll handle the manpower you need for that, just need a solid technical team for invisibility.
Calling women "dirty dishes" and some men are surprised that the 4B movement is so popular.
I was thinking about that in terms of more Korean women wanting to marry foreigners. That has led to more Korean men marrying women from SE Asian countries.
That whole segment was some of the most 4chan incel nonsense I've ever heard. Its like they have never met a woman before lol.
@@srose1088 I think you hit the nail on the head with your last sentence. I don't think that's just a problem in Korea, but in some western countries as well.
@@dr.davidenglish778then I hope these Korean women come to learn that many foreign men have equally disgusting attitudes towards Asian women.
What is the 4B movement?
The whole video my jaw was DROPPED. Truly disgusting.
Now I'm convinced that south korea is a different breed of dystopia.
The north is starting to look pretty good right now.
This is not a korean thing. Its pretty common everywhere. There are a lot of american foruns where man think and/or do the same.
The most disturbing thing about this is how EASY it was to lure these innocent little girls into utter hell
For real 😢 those poor 100 girls
I feel so bad for them they didn't know better 💔
@@cupcake-cx5ov for real. Getting hurt physically and mentally. 😔
What's sad is that they didn't feel like they could go to their parents, or even ONE trusted adult.
@@chaoswitch1974 for real. So sad for those 100 girls who can't talk to their Mom or Dad or one trusted adult.
I actually shed some tears watching this. Those men are fathers, friends, brothers. Women ain’t safe in this world.
Because men are the real monsters
Few men commenting:I’m father or brother not all men …. Lol too much to be counted as the minority rather than majority
@@gc4161yeah these great men apparently, and all they can say is "it wasn't me".
@@SirPunkiebecause it was like 2500
Yeah. It's pretty insane. It makes really depressed.
Honestly, I feel like if my partner, friend or even someone in my family did this, I would unalive them and then myself out of shame by having ever cared of or loved these men.
It's scary how innocent they looked on the outside.. just like a chubby-introvert-victim-of-a-bully-in-high-school kind of appearance
Stop I can see the evil in their eyes
@@Yellowrosebeauty879 no you can't you just want to believe you can because it's a hard to swallow pill that people like this are impossible to distinguish by appearance from regular people
The fact that some of these people are blaming the victims…This society is dying.
its a common thing in Korea and Japan
Korean society is dying quite literally. Makes sense.
Ah yes, blame the child instead of the fucker abusing them. Perfect logic.
Exactly, humanity is decreasing, we need to stop victim blaming(its in most of the societies around the world)
That’s why their birth rates are plummeting.
I'm tired of this country's extreme misogny
It happens everywhere
It does, but Korea is a weird situation with how technologically advanced and infrastructurally modernized and socially streamlined it is, yet still seemingly ignorant of how to treat women with dignity while trumpeting honor to the world.
@@tdmccoy1211yes but korean men's misogny another level ı think ,no one south kora has least birth rate now
I know it's so annoying that women get blamed for things like divorce rates and birth rates.. meanwhile this is what thousands upon thousands of men are like. it takes two to tango
what the hell? @@Ren-by3pl
Why am I not surprised at what those 2 guys face reveals looked like?
Thats like exactly what I thought they'd look like.
my exact thought
How isn’t there a documentary about telegram and kik chat rooms yet? I swear rotten mango is the only person who is bringing light to this horrific app
Their is a movie named nth room by s.k I didn't watched the full movie but I got to know about this case from that movie if you search about it you'll find it
VERY true! The 1st I've heard of it. Powerful entities are keeping this covered..😢
It’s not a horrific app, it’s very convenient messenger that millions of people use on a daily basis. These monsters could use any other app to create a network of rooms. It’s not the apps fault, the creators and watchers of these rooms should be caught and isolated from society
@@user-8765-vnit's not less convinient than WhatsApp. You wanna chat your fam? You don't need Telegram
The fact that it's too open is what's weird. I know it's widely used for 🌽 as well
@@user-8765-vn it is technically app's fault because of how their encryption works and how they usually refuse to out someone's info even if it's a suspected criminal, because they want to be the safest/most private messenger out there or smth
Of course the Watchers should be heavily punished the fact that they all got in the chatroom by taking explicit video of their own daughter,wife or sister makes me sick to my stomach
260k people that are fr not needed in this world
The watchers should bc they contributed to the victims trauma and most actually committed these acts on the victims. They weren’t all just spectators..
FRR
i was about to question how the cops/journalist got in but realised they got the link without sending a registration...
everything abt the chatroom makes me sick...them watching is contribution...their degrading comment is a fact theyre not right in the head...their dumb excuses just proves it more
Recently, a woman who spoke out against "molka" in Korea was branded a man-hater and harassed online by many men across the country. And she was fired. This incident is famous in Korea, and I'm not exaggerating.
What's her name? Or any keywords I can use to look up the case?
Please share the details
That because Asian men are taught from birth that women are worthless. Change the culture, change the way of thinking.
@@user-mw8ei4wm4s I used a translator because I am not good at English.
The incident began in 2016. Kim Ja-yeon, a voice actor who participated in the NEXON game "CLOSERS," posted a feminist-sponsored T-shirt on her personal SNS. Men have previously enjoyed playing the game of finding and attacking feminists. The targeted voice actor lost his job after his work was removed. (To keep his job open, he must either not support feminism or remain thoroughly anonymous.)
After that, feminism ideological verification occurred several times and was repeated. When female creators' SNS were found, they cyberbulled them, constantly called or threatened the victim's company, and received unfair treatment from the company. The company very easily accepts the demand to fire female creators and delete their works. If only women make it quiet, they can be praised as "God's company."
The latest incident occurred in 2023. In a game called "LIMBUS Company" by Project Moon, male users who thought the creators would be women searched for creators' SNS and attacked the game, saying that illustrations of female characters' summer swimsuits were less exposed.
Without contact, they visited the game company and protested, creating a threatening atmosphere. (Fortunately, the victim was not in the office.) When the creator of the painting was found to be male, they made excuses, saying they were not protesting because of its low exposure, but because the creator was a male-hating feminist. (The victim posted content supporting the abolition of abortion charges, the protest against molka.) Less than a day after this happened, the victim was notified by phone of his dismissal.
Witch hunts in Korea are more diverse and older than this, referring only to recent events that are highly related to them.
Do not come to Korea. A woman's place in Korea is a tool for solving men's sexual needs or giving birth and raising children. If you are a white woman, men may call you "white horse." Japanese women are "sushi" and Korean women are "kimchi." These mans only see women as sexual objects.
In Korea, women with short hair can be subject to murder or violence.(Because of the Corset-free movement) They actually suffered several victims, saying, 'Women with short hair are feminists, so you can hit them or kill them.'
It's a country where the government created and distributed what it called 'Women of childbearing age map' and reports suggesting that women should be disadvantaged because of the higher rates of women studying and going to college. lol I'm absolutely sick of this country. Hope all women are safe from disgusting and disgusting things.
I don't remember the case name but I think she did mention it in a past podcast I think the one where this kicked a woman in the face
The fact that she says if you can not listen or will be easily triggered and to take care of yourself is so sweet like she genuinely cares of about her viewers
It pisses me off that the Korean government doesn’t expose the celebrities that were involved in the group chat
He has THE NERVE to say its "petty and manipulative" to show his face? I lost it at that...
The amount of audacity is astounding
unfortunately I personally knew someone who was charged with CP (before they were charged) and when he talked about cases like this one, he saw the perpetrators as "a marginalized group shamed for their preferences" like LGBT groups, and how they men are the true victims. Their views are very warped.
It's just like the mom of the guy who stabbed his girlfriend 119 times. She said her son was "very nice" and didn't deserve 20 years in prison.
An artistic outlet are you fucking kidding me
Why you are so surprised by a sociopath?
I encourage vigilante justice when the law fails.
I never heard about this. Had no idea that people would do this. I didn’t start crying until you talked about how the news networks weren’t even covering this. I stumbled on your channel, probably because I’ve been to SK several times over the years. Thank you for bringing this to light. Praying for the victims.
I can't even process how people can enjoy someone else's suffering. These men are not human.
For real.
No emotions or human compassion or empathy. 😢
Fr it's so disturbing to hear the different ways they found to humiliate the victims.
@@cupcake-cx5ov for real. Like they're not human beings like themselves or de-humanizing them.
Demons
Oh ils sont 100% humains.
Their names need to be known. Safety of children should matter more than the comfort of men.
Comfort of sexually predatory men!
misogynistic and male dominated society, what can you do?
@@Iris_toomove and get out
@@Iris_too bro is projecting 💀
@@permanary5611 I'm sorry 😭😭 I thought you were telling me to get out of here.
the way her cases just get worse and worse each time says a lot about this world
This is honestly one of the hardest video to watch, it took me days to finish both, but man the excitement I got when the authorities finally had a solid lead…my heart goes out to each and every single one of the victims. This was so disturbing and heartbreaking
One of the victim was my friend. She's still traumatized up to this day. I tried to cheer her up but she told me to just leave her alone, even then I can't help but check up on her every now and then. I haven't seen her since middle school, and I'm worried that she's depressed and mentally not well. I can't imagine how inhuman you have to be to do this to a growing up kind child. I'm happy that the perpetrator is serving his time in prison but part of me feels like he deserves a heavier punishment. He ruined many lives, and from the way he's thinking, I don't think he's reflecting his actions in prison. Thank you for covering this case Mrs. Stephanie, I'm glad many people around the world can realize how horrible this case was.
What a lie what a lie
please dont leave her alone even if she told that's what she want because at least from my knowledge trauma makes you push people away when all you need is love and care. so take care and her as much as you can and yourself , stay safe
❤
Sending so much love your friend i hope she is doing better!! 🩷🩷🩷
Keep showing her you love her and are there for her no matter what. After ab*se a lot of friends abandoned me because I was so depressed and anxious I was not behaving like my usual self. Healing is a long, scary, painful, isolating process. She needs to know there are people who love her unconditionally and won’t abandon her.
As someone who spent time in Korea, i have a lot of thoughts.
The sheer disdain towards women, especially korean women, is insane. Theyre shamed for reading literature about feminism, even. The shame culture is so brutal, your life is over even if someone leaks a pic of your chest. So much of this could have been prevented if society was more caring about victims and lived less in outdated shaming culture. Could you imagine living in a society that is so brutal to victims you'd rather mutilate your body than go to the police because your life would literally be over? That your family would even potentially disown you?
I was aware of checking for cameras in my room, but even when i went to a public bathroom there were SO many holes in the walls that had been stuffed with toilet paper.
One stall i went to i will never forget, i was commuting and needed the bathroom so i went to one at a station. There were around 10 holes, stuffed with paper, circled with black marker. Arrows drawn to point to some of them. Messages were written in korean, english, Japanese, and various other languages.
On the door, when you looked up from sitting on the toilet, a huge message read in English (along the lines of my memory, this was in 2018):
'Girls, we only have each other. We need to protect each other, no matter where we are from.' And beneath it 'Girls, let's stick together.' Around this, were messages of love and support.
Korean women primarily, from what i could understand of all the writing around the stall, were writing in as many languages as possible to protect women. Even though korean women suffer the most there, they wanted to protect women no matter where they were from.
It still makes me emotional to this day.
I hope one day things will be safer and fairer for them. In korea, korean women are less safe and have less rights than any other nationality visiting.
Laws need to be changed, and so does society.
You know what, men always say that they deserve all these privileges because they protect women from harm. But this goes to show, and we all actually know, that the only protectors of women are other women. Viva la 4B movement ✊🏾
(Even though some women can be traitors too 😭)
@@neodlehoko404 honestly can say I've never been protected by a man when I needed it, even from guy friends. But I've had girl friends who I've thrown down alongside, or got our asses beat together! I've even had fights with guys to protect OTHER guys who didn't jump in to save me! 😭 despite the pick mes, I'll always feel a lot safer to ask a woman for help.
And a woman will be first to help you. NEVA?! neva a dude.
I want to apologize to all of the commentors on this comment for all the non-manly males you have known that either did not step up and do the right thing or did the evil themselves. I want you to know there are REAL men out there who honestly want to protect women. I would fight to the death to defend any woman of any age, race, or religion that I knew was being harmed. Most of the men I know are of the same mindset.
@@nickchalmers9000I know you’re not coming as dismissive, but this narrative saying perpetuators aren’t “real” men, or manly, has to stop. Yes they’re definitely real men, bad men but still real men. I appreciate that you show support to victims though.
All of my korean friends told me to always check on hotel rooms for hidden cams in korea and they were totally right...
I’m so tired of systematic violence against women or girls, it’s like no girl or woman is safe at home, school, hell even at they’re own fucking home, not safe from friends family! It’s so stressful to be constantly on guard
The youngest victim was not 12. I believe the youngest victim was 10. It was the sister of the 12 year old. These men called the 12 year old downstairs, made her bring her sister and they were both raped in a car. The news when this came out was very explicit and quite triggering.
were the men arrested?
@@corneliali7747 I sure hope so, poor girls....
wtf..these poor girls..
That's so beyond sick! Atleast there's a silver lining. They're ALIVE still thank you lord. I pray for all these children and their families. I pray with my whole heart that they will go on to heal as much as humanly possible and grow up to find trust enough to fall in love with a kind and gentile person and have a hat they can get quality therapy they deserve, I mean top notch and especially with them being young girls as a preschool teacher for 20 years I HIGHLY RECOMMEND equine therapy
That makes it worse omg
As someone who was groomed as a child and used to create + distribute CP - Thank you for bringing light to these situations. I'm 26 now and I still feel broken.
😢im sorry you had to go through that may you find healing
Omg I am so sorry that you had to go through that! I hope your predator paid the price 🥺❤️
It wasn't your fault 😢 hope you're surrounded by good people now ❤
😞
I'm so sorry. I hope you have good support including mental health services. Nobody should have to cope with such traumas alone.
You know what's really sick as well? There were probably enough police officers in those groups as well, who were able to prolong and manipulate the investigation.
This is why feminism is so important, if the girls weren’t afraid to speak out & knew they would still be loved & supported, maybe it wouldn’t have gone so far…. Tell ur kid it doesn’t matter, u will always love them & u can figure anything out together 🙏💔*real tears*….. that they will NEVER be dirty dishes & u will keep them safe no matter what
Yes you’re exactly right 🙌 and this also why 4B needs to happen esp in South Korea and other countries that face extreme misogyny and sexism. Like it’s really scary for women to be going through all the bs that men put them through.
35 years and 45 years is nothing compared for all the victims pain and mental health they endured.
For sure! Imagine in some countries they would get just a few years naybe, weirdly when its about babies. This is weird af
@@G73Serverif it were another country they would’ve been placed on public trial and immediately lawfully & publicly unalived.
@@MrThefatheroftheyear in a few countries maybe.
You just want revenge! Stronger punishment doesn’t work, history told!
thats so stupid calling it “nothing” i dont think u understand how long 35-45 YEARS you would get half for murder they will be on their deathbed or already dead by the time their out stop complaining
Apparently, smoking weed is worse than CP in South Korea ... just wow ... I just looked this up, Indian cannabis was banned in 1957 and indigenous Korean cannabis was only banned in 1976 ... this is such a young law why are they so concerned about it while ignoring violent crimes against young girls?
Damn.
What is CP?
@@sofiasininen8268 child p*rnography.
@@sofiasininen8268child p*rn
@@sofiasininen8268child videos of them doing inappropriate (I think you can infer what I mean by that) acts
A man claiming to be a Korean men's rights activist assaulted a woman with a short hairstyle. The man subjected her to her assault by claiming that a woman with short hair is more likely to be a feminist. As a result, the victim suffered hearing loss. However, what bothered her more than the assault was the secondary abuse by her society.
Prosecutor in charge of this case: Are feminism still being taught in girls' middle and high schools these days?
Some incels in their 20s: It is true that there are many feminists with short hair styles, so it is the feminists' fault.
The fact that some people blamed the victims… truly disgusting
“how do you feel about your face and name being released”
“it’s petty and manipulative.”
really? kinda like threatening to release material of girls doing stuff that you coerced them to do?
oh no. see it's different when HE does it bc HE'S god. god makes n breaks whatever rules HE wants. HE can be merciful. HE alone can destroy. n we, as HIS slaves must smile n be ever grateful to HIM. HE will always be in the right in whatever HE does.
quite simple actually.
@@NellieMaySanford bro what tf are u even going on about 😐
@@NellieMaySanford tf are u on about 😐
what is wrong with you?
@@SkubbaTayi think hes being sarcastic
I was so convinced that Rabbit was the world's worst, most obvious undercover cop. Absolutely gobsmacked to learn he was really just THAT stupid.
Ikr lmao
1:33
Me too
iq like idiocy, it's a spectrum and we're all on it you know... 😏
love how stupid he is...dont love him...just like that he is so stupid thank goodness
And this is why the 4B movement is gaining traction. Look how they are treated
When I was 14 I was groomed by a man who tried to coerce me into send photos of myself and do actions for him similarly to these girls. He harassed me for months and caused me horrible anxiety I could barely eat or sleep. My heart goes out to the victims of this case..
I’m sorry you had to go through that … glad you’re out and safe … stay strong … you’re beautiful and precious and please don’t let that experience make you feel any different 🥰
heres a hug for you, my love 🤗
I'm so sorry you had to go through this.
I'm glad it's over now
Take care ❤️
I know it’s hard but thank you for living ❤
@lalapoo7110 that is so sweet 😢🙌
No wonder women in SK are refusing to date and marry. God forbid if anything SA related were to happen to them, the judiciary will never give them justice as the laws against such crimes is such a joke ! Glad they are protecting themselves
I've seen many Western women wanting to follow their example. Don't think the gulf is that huge between East and West.
I would not have a child if I lived in Korea, with its protection of the rich and of criminals, and the systemic abuse of children and SA victims. Who wants to live in a society that victimizes the victims and that coddles criminals? Korea is a dystopian nightmare that seems to love child abusers for “reasons.”
And the US could have helped. But Korea only protects and supports criminals, apparently.
Unfortunately they just get themselves girls from other countries! Like India, Indonesia, Philippines and African countries where they started trafficking young girls into the country officially and “legally” promising them and their families that they will marry a rich guy and have a better future. Which is so sickening! Instead if overthinking and changing the reason that the remaining women ( the one’s that they didn’t abort as fetus because male babies are prefered) in their own country don’t wanna get into relationships and marry them if they are able to decide, they rather start human trafficking girls from other countries and going over their stigma of not wanting to “impurify” their blood..
I hope that you and your researchers are taking care of your mental health. I can't imagine the things you see and read to produce theses videos. I'm grateful for you shedding light on these things, but please, please take care of yourselves.
HE IS OUT OF JAIL? I hope people serve justice on their own hands cuz their government really failed them. Shame on them, their family and their friends. Shame on men..
ADULT CONTENT? THE GIRLS SHOULD BE PUNISHED???? This is so ridiculous. If these guys feel like they're experiencing psychological stress, IMAGINE the victims?!! The watchers/users should also be help accountable as well. Unfricken believable. These are pedo stalkers. 😡😡😡
Don’t be afraid to take breaks, Stephanie. We all love your videos, but make sure you take care of yourself too. (And that goes for all your team as well! 😌)
Stuff like this can take a toll on your mental health, so send our love to all the team and take a break whenever you need.
Yeah ill take that advice
parasocial much
@@jayyceanthony I was just looking out for my fellow humans 💀
You’re a newlywed! In the Old Testament, it’s recommended the bride and groom don’t spend time apart for a YEAR! Take it easy and be you for a while.
I've just found this channel and I feel like I need a strong drink to handle these stories. Those poor girls
As a girl in this world im terriblly scared being a girl living here , i pray for every girl in this world and i thank Stephanie for this bad and disguting video 🥺😯🤮🙏🏼😭
Fr
Its so disgusting how these men are complaining about women being in relationships at the same time as being in non consensual relationships with children
Wait, WHAT? The age of consent was 13? That's the same age of consent in Egypt, for forced marriage. 3 years in jail for CP is ridiculous, when the victims are sentenced to a life of trauma and shame (if they even survive at all.)
In the USA thete are a few states 13 yo can marry dirty old men....as old as 70!
In Egypt, the age of consent is 18. Dunno where did you get that 13 from???
@@mrmreo it's just some casual islamophobic propaganda
@@mrmreoI was just about to comment that
In Iran it's 9 years old!
i enjoyed this kind of format, no distracting visuals no insensitive stuff like doing ur makeup or mukbangs
I have to say, you're one of the best storytellers I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. The content in these Nth room episodes is obviously really difficult to talk about but the story is gripping because of the way you've constructed it here.
He said releasing his identity is "petty and manipulative"? The hypocrisy is upsetting. He can proceed to go to hell.
Very poor translation.
He said he regrets his actions and is apologetic.
@@JHeezy0109too little too late. What a punk.
@@JHeezy0109 which mean’s absolutely nothing either way
Im glad she clarified that it was all over the world and not just Korea. Also WE NEED A VIGILANTE
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THESE MEN TO ENJOY THIS? Feels like you have been molested if you like this?? And also their fathers definitely taught their sons to hate women
It is a world problem, but these particular cases are also heavily reflect a South Korean problem. Because SK is a globally connected, highly technologically advanced, country with a lot of old fashioned rules and thinking. There are so many ‘If’s in this case that are unique to South Korea that allowed it to continue and not involve higher crimes like kidnapping or holding someone against their will, which could prevent these monsters and watchers from doing these things. Plus the ‘alpha male’ mentality has been going strong for them for a while because women want to have the same rights and societal freedom they see from women in other countries, but their laws and pressures don’t keep up with that. There is so much SK can do in reflection here, especially when election season comes around, for the sake of their most vulnerable population.
@@guadalupemontoya5164I think we also need to talk about its cultural problems. People are willing to turn away from damaging thinking like this because they think they aren’t able to say anything because its not their culture. It’s not something they will get. So therefore not something they have the ability to judge. But we really have to learn that sometimes culture can be toxic. I mean treating women like object, not giving them certain rights? That just screams toxic culture.
> WE NEED A VIGILANTE
you need a proper education, vigilantism was prohibited for a reason (killing innocent ppl on circumstantial evidences is fun but wrong)
@@magisteryura ( don’t know what happened to my other comment) in this case and a lot of other ones, a lot of people (me included) would not be mad if a vigilante took “care” of these people, the only reason why they let these sort of cases go in Korea and other countries, is because their courts and governments are filled with people like him and who watch those videos
After watching this case, I am shook to my core..... I have watched many of Stephanie's crime podcasts, but not sure if anything even come close to this. Feels like it's time to re-evaluate my whole life....
I used to South Korea was a place out of fairytales , my dream place because of the way it's potrayed in k-dramas, k-pop etc but cases like these really opened my eyes wide to the reality...
my mind was blown when she said “age of consent raised from 13 to 16” wtf ! it was 13 before? bro it need to be atleast 18 in everywhere in the world ..
LOL. I wish I could tell you it was a Korea (or even just Asia thing). The disparity between age of consent and age of majority is nuts around the world.
Staying in Asia though, Japan had an age of consent of 13 between 1907 and 2023 at which point it was changed to 16, meanwhile their age of majority/age of adulthood was 20 for 300 years and reduced to 18 at some point between the last quarter of 2022 and the second quarter of 2023.
They conditioned their entire population into it being fine for people well over 20 to get married to teens (in some cases parental permission/blessing from the parents of the younger of the people set to be wed was required, but in some there was no requirement at all) for 300 years.
Now they expect those same people to change their minds overnight. And then there is the matter of how many marriages in their country would now be null and void. Anyone who wed in the last fifty-sixty years has to get updated files or "exception" stamped onto their marriage certificates.
Also the worst part about Japan changing these numbers is that it wasn't done to protect people at all. It was done because of Japan's aging population crisis and the need to get more young people into the workforce as quickly as possible.
So you're an adult two years younger and you can consent to pretty much anything three years older than before. Because that's not going to backfire at all. Totally. It can't right? Right?! 🤦♀
Ok, neo-puritan
@@matthewmuente1363most men over 21 getting with a woman under 18 is looked down upon. It’s pretty gross and predatory.
@@Dollapfinneo puritan is a pedo dog whistle ignore that guy
Not really it's either 25 or more not 18 it's still too young.
Your videos are great! I first seen it suggested to me on Spotify but they are not working properly.❤
I like how you narrate all the true stories you are sharing. It gives me shivers as if I was there in the scene.
"She should've given us her body" She never gave you anything YOU took it! 😢RIP i hope she finds peace love and happiness
have you seen the old sci-fi film Saturn 3?
@@CoruscationsOfIneptitude I don't believe so. Why? Should I watch it?
@@heathergabbysalomon3614 There are some interesting ideas within it.
Natalie Wood named her bad boy. Who did she say it was?
@@CoruscationsOfIneptitude that's intriguing. I'll see where I can watch it.
Can't even imagine how does it feel to find out your husband or dad was in this chats. Those men are disgusting and have to be punished. And the have the audacity to say that feminists are bad people. Poor girls.
Or worse…never finding out.
This was the most horrendous story I have heard in a long time. Great to see someone raising awareness that this is realing happening. So Sad!
The insane thing is that even though these two might’ve been caught, there are probably still tons of people continuing to do the same thing.
Never soften language because it offends someone. It should offend and to soften the language means it softens the magnitude of what happened to the victims! My heart goes out to the victims.
Depends on the context.
Softening the language to not hurt or offend someone unnecessarily? Why not, since there's no reason to hurt peoples feelings just out of spite.
Softening the language to downplay real issues, like violence, rape, corruption, ...? In that context you're absolutely right.
I think she is softening the language for youtube
@@avengedprophet1559 I’m thinking more the second one,
but there’s also an issue of softening language can also make the victims dwell on and get stuck on what happened to them as it’s being downplayed by language softening. It’s almost like telling the victim to get over it because it’s not that bad look at this soft fluffy way we describe what happened to you.
I personally have been a victim of sexual and physical violence and on going abuse which lasted 16 years and I’ve had people downplay what happened to me and it makes you feel worthless and forgotten, like it’s not a big deal.
So my ask is don’t downplay what has happened, it makes it sound like the victims should be able to just get over it and the perpetrators sound innocent.
@@sistagold9241
Agreed. In such cases, softening a language causes additional suffering.
If something was horrible, then softening the choice of words is cruel.
I meant normal, casual conversations, where softening is not always a bad choice. Serious matters are a different case.
its annoying to me that she uses words like ‘rword’ instead of rape or ‘unalive’ instead of suicide though, its really odd. sure i get it can help for monetization, but it sure leaves a bad taste in my mouth
My whole perspective of South Korea just shifted 180°
Thank god bc honestly lot of things in this country is trash
Lol you should research more about them … one of the most gifted thing between women is red cards …it helps to detect hiding cameras also if you are bipoc they will discriminate you so badly you will think USA is heaven
Wait till you get your bubble burst about Japan. All these anime loving Americans who just worship all things Japanese have no idea how awful the Japanese are, and have been forever.
@@jessicahannah2522 OOOOOOOH THATS WHY YOU LEFT THE COMMENT It’s cuz you’re racist
The men with the dishwasher and black hole theories have too much free time on their hands.
He feels like HIS face being shown is PETTY AND MANIPULATIVE?!?! What a class act!!
Every country has their own justice system flaws but man....South Korea's justice system is so backwards. Sexual assault, rape, cp, etc is taken less serious than drugs and gambling. That's disgusting.
what's cp btw?
@@lmao164 adult content that doesn't involve adults
@@lmao164 How did you watch this video and not know? I think you’re too young to be watching this. This really should be age restricted.
@@jessj2530 that's a good concern but I'm actually 20 and I'm new at her channel so i don't get most of the abbreviations she uses. Also her accent confuses me sometimes coz i have a different one so i just wanted to confirm.
@@lmao164 its an abbreviation for child corn
The Burning Sun crimes AND Nth room crimes all within 2018-2020? That's two major crime rings focused on exploiting women using technology. I hope a lot more is being done to protect women in Korea after the awareness from these incidents.
And the Welcome to Video, plus the deaths of infants like Baby Jung-In and the other babies who were SA’d and killed or abandoned and only got a slap in the wrist! This is why I donate to KUMFA to help support these women cause SK makes it damn hard for single mothers.
@@lavenderlatte13 that’s so demoralizing :( thank you for mentioning KUMFA, hadn’t heard of them before. I would love to contribute too
I just know that they elected a president who is anti-women and actively campaigned with the intent to dismantle division put forth for the development of women, if that give you any indication as to where they are on that.
@@lavenderlatte13 what is KUMFA?
Imagine. Both cases were happening at the same time for YEARS. I’m Korean but I’m sooo fkn glad I never lived there, great as tourist never live
i've only watched the "the glory" episode, the "burning sun" episode and this 2-part episode from all the episodes that mainly happened in korea. and now i don't think i can ever set foot in that country. i listen to kpop, i watch korean movies/dramas, i read manhwa. but the country itself is nothing but a breeding ground of evil people/men who exploits the most vulnerable population, i know i shouldn't but i'm afraid it's inevitable for me to think of it like that. as a woman i would never wish to be somewhere where my existence is defined only to be a product or a slave. it's just horrifying for me, all of it.