2020 Kia Stinger GT vs Volkswagen Arteon R-Line // $50,000 Face Off

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  • Опубліковано 12 лис 2019
  • James and Thomas compare the 2020 Stinger GT 20th Anniversary with the Volkswagen Arteon. Both cars are brand flagships, are liftback sedans, automatics, and incredibly good looking. The boys explore how fun they are, and what they're like to live with.
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  • @Reidpants747
    @Reidpants747 4 роки тому +1633

    "This car poops in a bag and leaves it at the door of BMW 3-series owners." - That is unbridled Shakespearian poetry if I've ever heard it.

    • @gabbag777
      @gabbag777 4 роки тому +32

      Your intellectualism and word choice originality baffles me, sir.

    • @mainstay3282
      @mainstay3282 4 роки тому +23

      Love BMW but I kinda agree...

    • @caseybrannon4975
      @caseybrannon4975 4 роки тому +6

      He called the shit poop!

    • @drekt2698
      @drekt2698 4 роки тому +45

      Literally traded in my 335i for a Stinger GT1 haha

    • @dhirendrasinhrana202
      @dhirendrasinhrana202 4 роки тому

      Hahahah

  • @GY9944
    @GY9944 4 роки тому +2238

    Stinger: Grey with red interior
    Arteon: Red with grey interior
    This wasn't on purpose was it ?

    • @senoow4215
      @senoow4215 4 роки тому +50

      it's pretty standard on both cars but fun when u point it out

    • @turbo1997hsm
      @turbo1997hsm 4 роки тому +28

      Grey with red >>>

    • @KronborgGaming
      @KronborgGaming 4 роки тому

      Like nr. 666 LMAO

    • @Teme44
      @Teme44 4 роки тому +3

      Ahhahahah

    • @MisterLovaLova
      @MisterLovaLova 3 роки тому +3

      EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED

  • @Ace792
    @Ace792 3 роки тому +1127

    In true VW fashion, it even has a check engine light on! Part of the experience

    • @lukazupie7220
      @lukazupie7220 3 роки тому +98

      I own mine for 6 years and everything is perfect, not even a single bulb changed :)

    • @frazierl7898
      @frazierl7898 3 роки тому +147

      @@yourvault1612 either lucky 1%, or he/she is in the European market where they're more reliable because they're built with their reliable local parts as opposed to American parts.

    • @SeanWithaFada
      @SeanWithaFada 3 роки тому +104

      @@frazierl7898 oh i wondered what the deal was with Americans saying Volkswagens are unreliable, I’m from Ireland and there’s loads of Volkswagens on the roads here, and no one talks about them being unreliable.

    • @patrickmartin3322
      @patrickmartin3322 3 роки тому +47

      @@SeanWithaFada German cars are notoriously expensive to repair in the US.

    • @Daurentius322
      @Daurentius322 3 роки тому +58

      @@patrickmartin3322 Yeah and US cars are equally expensive to repair in Europe, lol.

  • @evannussbaum1863
    @evannussbaum1863 3 роки тому +1335

    Stinger: selling horribly
    Volkswagen: we NEED to develop a competitor for this!!

    • @Happytylermovieproducction
      @Happytylermovieproducction 3 роки тому +38

      ECN That’s my name Kia Stinger selling horribly = their used car will be cheap even the GT2

    • @CorBor69
      @CorBor69 3 роки тому +41

      That’s good for our broke fellas

    • @AlienCreatureThing
      @AlienCreatureThing 3 роки тому +46

      @@Happytylermovieproducction lowest I’ve seen a GT stinger that is worth buying is 29k

    • @bliglum
      @bliglum 3 роки тому +90

      Don't see it as a true competitor really. One is a purpose built, proper longitudinally mounted drivetrain sport sedan with a V6.. The other is a restyled Passat, with a run of the mill transverse FWD layout and a 4 banger....

    • @AlienCreatureThing
      @AlienCreatureThing 3 роки тому +6

      @@Happytylermovieproducction definitely not, I’m planning to get this as my first car in a couple months

  • @davyk8193
    @davyk8193 4 роки тому +737

    That KIA 'gotta tell everyone' bit at the beginning would be definitely relatable until they released Telluride. After the release of Stinger and Telluride, KIA is making a big splash in a very very saturated market. Also after seeing the K5 Optima renders, I'm speechless. I hope KIA fixes their dealerships and gives the post purchase experience to match the competition.

    • @Baker_88
      @Baker_88 4 роки тому +4

      Davy K The 21 Optima reminds me a lot of a Lincoln MKZ.

    • @Yondaily
      @Yondaily 4 роки тому +1

      SouthSide WhiteBhoy ewww very ugly you should get a Volvo

    • @lambodriver217
      @lambodriver217 4 роки тому +13

      yonda ila umm no

    • @TheeneF
      @TheeneF 4 роки тому +22

      Amen. Love my Stinger GT

    • @lukeiamurdad9055
      @lukeiamurdad9055 4 роки тому +12

      The dealers are so bad and the main thing holding KIA/Hyundai back.

  • @doubleclutchonline5811
    @doubleclutchonline5811 4 роки тому +125

    I'm shocked that there aren't more Stingers on the road. I do believe that $50k is a bit much for a Kia sedan. As nice as the car is, it's serious money with lots of competition. Kia really needs to overdeliver until the stigma of the badge goes away. And I just wouldn't want to have to deal with a Kia dealership. But there is no denying that this car is absolutely fantastic.

    • @mr.2cents.846
      @mr.2cents.846 9 місяців тому

      It is much. Should be under $40.000 would sell more too.

    • @Jayderzomb
      @Jayderzomb 6 місяців тому +10

      @@mr.2cents.846a bmw with the same equipment is like 80-90k

    • @i.d.6492
      @i.d.6492 5 місяців тому +2

      @@mr.2cents.846 I disagree. They would be losing money, they actually give you so much for a lot less than the competition. Arteon isn't is trash, overpriced and slow

    • @Big.W.
      @Big.W. 3 дні тому

      Hyundai should change its name to genesis. Kia should change its name to stinger. Toyota should change its name to Lexus. Plus the Camry Corolla and Prius civic accord etc need name changes. And not letters and numbers, actual names.

  • @Zam1Fear
    @Zam1Fear 3 роки тому +226

    Typical person commenting on car vs car videos: "This car is better, I don't own it, I don't own the other car either, but the fact that I like one more than the other makes it better"

    • @potatochobit
      @potatochobit 3 роки тому +32

      after you are old enough to have paid off your first car you will develop something called "common sense."
      so when you see a 50,000$ volkswagen that is slower than a camry, it's Ok to raise an eyebrow.

    • @titusrome2863
      @titusrome2863 3 роки тому +1

      @@potatochobit Yes well said !!! I would rather purchase a CPO LEXUS BMW MB etc....

    • @BoopSnoot
      @BoopSnoot 3 роки тому +2

      @@potatochobit Its a stupid comparison, as the Arteon is more competition for a base Stinger. A base Arteon is $37K are compares favorably to a Kia Stinger GT-line Sun+Sound model for $36K.

    • @yourvault1612
      @yourvault1612 3 роки тому

      @@potatochobit it will fall apart before you have time to pay it off. In here in the US it’s very hard to find a good German car mechanic Plus those parts $$$$$ a lot of the times it’s cheaper to buy a new car and then fix something really stupid especially with BMWs and German cars in general. I’m German I lived in Germany most of my life but when I moved to US and bought an Audi I learned a lot

    • @JohnSmith-yf5bk
      @JohnSmith-yf5bk 3 роки тому

      You must not play any sports

  • @vincedemarchis7238
    @vincedemarchis7238 2 роки тому +23

    Drove both.. bought the stinger.. instant classic.. love my decision and love driving it.. awesome car..

    • @teej5619
      @teej5619 Рік тому

      I did not drive the Kia stinger when I bought my Arteon but I have a friend who got a GT2 stinger and really likes it, I just got the VW because it was just a little bit more comfortable and the digital display both for the gauge cluster and infotainment are really intuitive and really nice and have aged well.

  • @93remix
    @93remix 4 роки тому +488

    If the ARTEON came with the VW/AUDI based 2.5L 5CYL(the upper TRIM) that's in the RS3 or TT/RS... WOOOOO!! THAT WOULD BE WORTH IT

    • @magnusshawn4698
      @magnusshawn4698 4 роки тому +27

      Yeah TTRS drivetrain would be awesome for this chassis

    • @instantkamera
      @instantkamera 4 роки тому +33

      Yes. I love the 2.0 TSI (edited from 'EA888' for clarity - though I do believe that is what's in here), but I feel like it doesn't belong in a car of this size and price. Sure, it's a comfort/touring car, but it's begging for more hp/tq (well, potential buyers would be for sure).
      Edit: Also, I don't really get why they'd go with a detuned or smaller turbo on this flagship. This is a boat, it should at least have the Golf R numbers.

    • @elikinzie23
      @elikinzie23 4 роки тому +19

      Any car with that legendary engine would be a good buy

    • @khailils446
      @khailils446 4 роки тому +5

      @@elikinzie23throw it in a kia soul

    • @supravsg35
      @supravsg35 4 роки тому +14

      I think a 3.0T from audi a6 tuned to around 350 hp would be abetter fit, but if that was the case, y buy pay more for an audi...i see y they kept the 2.0T. I have driven the arteon and for me personally, it did feel underpowered

  • @juraj_b
    @juraj_b 4 роки тому +149

    Had a Stinger GT in New Zealand for a week and I was very impressed with it. Great comfort, easy to drive, great adaptive cruise control, lane assist, android/apple thing and lot of space with high quality interior. One thing I didn't like was the economy (it just gulps petrol and requires 95) and noise above 115km/h which really surprised me. Otherwise a wonderful car to live with.

    • @jericlamb2676
      @jericlamb2676 4 роки тому +1

      You bite with the features of kia, the suspension and engine of kia was average

    • @user-ie8ud3qw9m
      @user-ie8ud3qw9m 3 роки тому +19

      @@jericlamb2676 You drive a Kia Rio. How is the 3.3t average? It beats Mustang 5.0's and Dodge SRT-8s...

    • @jericlamb2676
      @jericlamb2676 3 роки тому

      @@user-ie8ud3qw9m n middle east hyundai/kia carried hollow blocks, ur crap stinger
      can do it too, lexus still king when it comes to reliability, the road here in ph many potholes cant survived the stinger and no spare parts avail

    • @ericd.4460
      @ericd.4460 3 роки тому +20

      @@jericlamb2676 There is nothing average about the Stinger GT2, and I own a Lexus GS 350.

    • @matteup1502
      @matteup1502 2 роки тому +6

      @@jericlamb2676 An engine built by an ex BMW engineer, that things a beast!

  • @jeremydupuis3344
    @jeremydupuis3344 Рік тому +26

    Last year I had the same debate between Stinger and Arteon. I went for the Arteon, much smoother ride and the much larger backseat room. My kids appreciate the larger backseat room.

    • @ge-8135
      @ge-8135 Рік тому +1

      Looks like a great all rounder.

  • @tannerabell387
    @tannerabell387 3 роки тому +37

    Throttle House = New Top Gear.
    These guys need their own TV show. Netflix would do well to sign these guys

  • @AnindaCBR1k
    @AnindaCBR1k 4 роки тому +934

    This channel is way underrated, I coy see you guys having your own show lol

    • @chocolatewheelchair
      @chocolatewheelchair 4 роки тому +21

      Chrome ™ this is their show.

    • @ParissaKhoury
      @ParissaKhoury 4 роки тому +5

      Chrome - how is it "underrated" ?? They have over 340k subscribers

    • @chocolatewheelchair
      @chocolatewheelchair 4 роки тому +5

      YoungMan4Quickie they are a huge hater haha

    • @ParissaKhoury
      @ParissaKhoury 4 роки тому +5

      @@chocolatewheelchair lol

    • @georgecostanza2695
      @georgecostanza2695 4 роки тому +1

      Imho, James makes the show... Thomas can be replaced and I wouldn't miss him one bit.

  • @dan-5678
    @dan-5678 4 роки тому +79

    I've driven the Arteon when I had my car in the shop and oh my god that car is so nice, it quiets any bumps completely, you don't feel anything not even the vibration much less the bump itself, it's fun to drive much more than they say, and the safety features are really good, let's just say it stop me from slamming into someone's rear end

    • @youresomodest
      @youresomodest 2 роки тому +17

      I’m driving one right now while my Passat is in the shop. I told the service tech that was a clever little plan to get me to just buy the Arteon. He laughed.

  • @Audi_Fanboy96
    @Audi_Fanboy96 3 роки тому +61

    I work for Volks and when we first received the arteon and I popped the hood, I was let down.. with the amount of space the engine bay has, it could easily fit a 3.6l VR6. Now that would be true commitment to its predecessor

    • @leonsam84
      @leonsam84 3 роки тому +14

      but then ppl wouldnt buy the A5 or S5.. Right now its a hard sell why arteon when u could go A5.

    • @Audi_Fanboy96
      @Audi_Fanboy96 3 роки тому +2

      leonsam84 I agree with you 100%

    • @akiimo389
      @akiimo389 Рік тому

      @@leonsam84 Because the Arteon is bigger than the A5.

    • @BigMotorLover
      @BigMotorLover Рік тому +1

      ​@@leonsam84both the A5 and S5 are now turbo charged. A naturally aspirated R32 V6 would be fun to drive

  • @luc_de_hoogh
    @luc_de_hoogh 4 роки тому +277

    How does this channel only have 481k subs?! I like Doug DeMuro, but this content is sooo byond that. Hope you guy's get your own top-gear ;)

    • @Alexander5R
      @Alexander5R 3 роки тому +14

      They're almost double that now! Hurrah.

    • @alalal123421
      @alalal123421 3 роки тому +13

      their content is miles beyond dougs snarky reviews

    • @LetsDIYIt
      @LetsDIYIt 3 роки тому +11

      I cannot watch Doug anymore. He is just so annoying and provides very little actual car content and just stupid comments about cupholders and crap like that

    • @susiemartinez8983
      @susiemartinez8983 3 роки тому +4

      I feel like they are the Top Gear of UA-cam. And yeah, I agree they deserve a bit more subs than Demuro. I get tired if hearing about his quirks.

    • @Shane-zx4ps
      @Shane-zx4ps 3 роки тому +2

      @@LetsDIYIt he didn’t know what a graphic equaliser was in a 1980,s car, so he’s not really a car guy

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph8958 4 роки тому +412

    I would go for the Stinger GT
    It has a V6 and more fun to drive
    The Arteon is a good looking car tho

  • @Robert-lu3rz
    @Robert-lu3rz 3 роки тому +141

    “VW, has a great history!”
    How did VW start?
    Oh, Hitler started them loool

    • @GrumpyGamer11
      @GrumpyGamer11 2 роки тому +6

      ...so?

    • @FumeAbuse
      @FumeAbuse 2 роки тому +11

      That’s why he said a great history

    • @Fizzglg
      @Fizzglg 2 роки тому

      @@FumeAbuse mhm

    • @poppygranny6741
      @poppygranny6741 2 місяці тому

      A simple Google search will show he did not.

    • @kenhiett5266
      @kenhiett5266 15 днів тому

      He did not just help create the company, he actually sketched the Beetle himself working with Porsche…
      But then the war came and then it was over… the VW plant was in the British sector and in the basement of the bomb damaged factory were enough parts to do a production run of cars. The British army supervised the manufacture and German workers who needed jobs and food to eat built the cars and they sold them, using the money to buy the next round of parts and lineally financed the restart of the company this way… and step by step built VW into the powerhouse it is today…
      So yes the beginnings were totally ties to Hitler and the Nazi Party but the rebirth has in very real terms been a German Success story with the initial help from and by the British Army, very entrepreneurial and old fashioned hard work…
      Spoiler alert… I am a JEW… My family lost dozens to the theft and murder of the Holocaust. My Grandfather refused to buy a German car after the war and for the balance of his life.. but Germany today is not Germany of yesterday, Germany has basically donated a fleet of Dolphin Submarines to the State of Israel which are Israels secure second strike capability that effectively guarantees the survival of the Jewish State… My Mother - who was nine years old when the Nazis marched into her home town owns a Volkswagen… I own a Mercedes… Germany today is NOT Germany of yesterday… and neither is Volkswagen. Its beginnings are not its present or its future… If MY Mother can own and drive a VW… well then everyone can get past how the company was founded and by whom…
      -Dan Abraham Erlich

  • @c_s_q_0691
    @c_s_q_0691 3 роки тому +17

    This is most definitely the best car review channel on YT... Hands down... keep up the great work!!!

  • @MrAndrei4777
    @MrAndrei4777 3 роки тому +52

    - "Born from the ashes of the old CC": is so to the point!!! Nice one, like for that

  • @DadIsntMad
    @DadIsntMad 4 роки тому +258

    Lol “Let’s talk about my stinger”
    “Why does that sound dirty”

    • @Yondaily
      @Yondaily 4 роки тому

      Because it’s a Kia who like Kia no one they are just debaged Audi which is sad get a Volvo you thank me later

    • @usernonameee
      @usernonameee 4 роки тому +10

      yonda ila but the truth is, you are not affordable for that stinger

    • @lloyd_3656
      @lloyd_3656 4 роки тому +4

      @@Yondaily r/swoosh

    • @limelight777
      @limelight777 4 роки тому +3

      @@usernonameee lol that's the fact!

    • @supfoo9221
      @supfoo9221 4 роки тому

      Honestly Yes it's a Kia but man it's a beautiful car.

  • @clifftaylor3295
    @clifftaylor3295 4 роки тому +9

    Amazing. You guys are incredible. Loved how you were obviously proud of the fact that you managed to get both cars to be the same price.

  • @shaphan8767
    @shaphan8767 4 роки тому +10

    This was a really well made video. I watch a lot of car videos and this was one of my favorites in a while, really enjoyable with all the information you want. Well Done.

  • @darylaarons6625
    @darylaarons6625 4 роки тому +22

    I love the way you guys do car reviews and the production value is excellent. I even watch your reviews on cars I have no interest in because they are so good. I’m not sure how many people would actually cross-shop these two cars because, other than size and price, they have a different mission. I’m a fan of VAG products but lean towards their sportier offerings, but if I were forced to choose between these two, I’ll take the Stinger please.

  • @AlainHubert
    @AlainHubert 4 роки тому +28

    Sooo, that's what I'm suffering from, Kiarrhea... 🤣 But my Stinger still puts a smile on my face every single time I drive it. 😎
    EDIT: at the very end of the video, Thomas says that the hatchback in the Stinger didn't work (@12:55). It didn't, simply because Thomas pulled up on it instead of letting it go up by itself. And the safety feature stops the electric motors as soon as something hits, or forces the hatch up or down. Same thing in the Arteon (@13:33).

  • @culley65
    @culley65 4 роки тому +228

    "I'm tired of having a V10 screaming behind me.." ooookay :P

    • @eleonik76
      @eleonik76 4 роки тому +17

      Canadians. They are born metrosexual. The manly chromosome is removed before birth.

    • @JS-hw8ve
      @JS-hw8ve 4 роки тому +49

      He was being sarcastic and immediately laughed and admitted "V10s for life". Did you miss that part? How?

    • @JS-hw8ve
      @JS-hw8ve 4 роки тому +26

      @@eleonik76 He's English.... did that escape your notice? The sarcasm did.

    • @eleonik76
      @eleonik76 4 роки тому +1

      @@JS-hw8ve I am not good with sarcasm,my wife is.

    • @patricklee5571
      @patricklee5571 4 роки тому +8

      @@eleonik76 clearly not very good at critical thinking either

  • @James__Gregory
    @James__Gregory 4 роки тому +49

    "No...V10's for life, obviously..." LOL 🤣

  • @spreaddeezhazelnutz7511
    @spreaddeezhazelnutz7511 3 роки тому +192

    The Stinger looks great but that Arteon looks freaking fantastic.

    • @BoopSnoot
      @BoopSnoot 3 роки тому +2

      Plus the Arteon has a lot of history and heritage to it. Nobody can buy a Kia, who originally just made below average quality bicycle parts, and think, "Hitler personally created this manufacturer as his dream for a people's car".

    • @bujangterlajak6808
      @bujangterlajak6808 3 роки тому

      arteon got only 4 seaters?

    • @hiiiofficial8306
      @hiiiofficial8306 3 роки тому

      @@bujangterlajak6808 no 5 seater

    • @bliglum
      @bliglum 3 роки тому +7

      Arteon is a better looking car, but he Stinger is a better car overall.

    • @alphonsbretagne8468
      @alphonsbretagne8468 3 роки тому +2

      depends .. to me the Arteon looks like a squeezed Passat with parts from the box of bricks system VW uses. You find parts from all series of models from Seat, VW, ... all over the place. There's no unique part just used for the flagship only!

  • @hugdeath929
    @hugdeath929 4 роки тому +4

    Just the thumbnail made me smile. Haven’t watched it yet but they’re both on my list of possible replacements for next summer. Thanks guys.

  • @bernardosuss
    @bernardosuss 4 роки тому +13

    First video I've ever seen from you guys - great work!

  • @tobyg1240
    @tobyg1240 4 роки тому +2

    The intros are the best. You guys are awesome!

  • @inderjitsingh4230
    @inderjitsingh4230 Рік тому

    These 2 are my favourite cars since they ve been into the market ..
    Thanks for the video guys

  • @kevinbates5760
    @kevinbates5760 4 роки тому +52

    First impression James looks small in the VW those seats look huge.

  • @cameron4907
    @cameron4907 4 роки тому +30

    I give credits to both brands for making such (in my opinion) good looking lift backs 🔥

  • @Mdot401
    @Mdot401 3 роки тому +5

    You guys the best reviewers ever! So funny but yet soo good at informing us , keep up the good work guy! 😂 amazing content 👍🏽

  • @Rockinbiker1946
    @Rockinbiker1946 2 роки тому +2

    Bought a 2021 Arteon SEL R-Line FWD a month ago. Just got back from a 3K mile trip and didn't see another one on the road but saw plenty of the Kia. German exclusivity. I had many people give good comments about the car.

  • @ericrodrigues3749
    @ericrodrigues3749 4 роки тому +147

    Dayum that arteon looks good... REALLY good...

    • @haraldschon7794
      @haraldschon7794 4 роки тому

      The disadvantages of the platform can be clearly seen on the luxury class VW "Arteon":
      The Arteon is actually a car made from the Passat and Golf. VW-MQB platform, Modular-Querbau box of a compact car. This also means transverse instead of longitudinally installed engines and 4 cylinders is already over.

    • @Yondaily
      @Yondaily 4 роки тому +1

      Yes it does look amazing

    • @BuyTheBookLotto
      @BuyTheBookLotto 4 роки тому

      Eric Rodrigues it really does but the price tag hurts

    • @maximzaslavskiy5980
      @maximzaslavskiy5980 4 роки тому +2

      @@haraldschon7794 The RS3 rides on MQB. So what? Just a newer platform.

  • @danielsheykhsofla5631
    @danielsheykhsofla5631 4 роки тому +4

    one the most relevant comparisons that i watched in a looooooooooong time

  • @devambhagat3478
    @devambhagat3478 3 роки тому +13

    I’ve literally watched this videos like 10+ times and still keep watching it. Love the Kia stinger and can’t wait to buy the 2021 stinger when I’m out of school

    • @tice1185
      @tice1185 3 роки тому +4

      you mean you cant wait for your parents to buy it for you lmao

    • @devambhagat3478
      @devambhagat3478 3 роки тому +4

      tice hahaha NO! By school I meant college

    • @juneauclassic
      @juneauclassic 3 роки тому +3

      @@devambhagat3478 buy a used 2020 model. its so much cheaper plus you get all the improvements from the first two years, and they arent making any major changes from the 2020 one. I have a 2020 gt2 and couldn't be happier.

    • @devambhagat3478
      @devambhagat3478 3 роки тому +1

      TRITON honestly I was thinking about a 2020 or a 21 bc I’m graduating in ‘23 so that car will have time to depreciate lol. But that’s nice to hear that u love your car👍🏽

    • @ericd.4460
      @ericd.4460 3 роки тому

      @@juneauclassic I agree with both ideas, I like the 2021 better, but I would buy a 2020 also.

  • @Mr_Vishal...
    @Mr_Vishal... 2 роки тому +2

    The intro yaar... I have watched it 3 times before the review begins. ❣️😂😂 That was so lovely..

  • @chasehammarstrom5844
    @chasehammarstrom5844 4 роки тому +7

    I cannot express how much I love this channel! Keep up the good work guys!!!!

  • @ascott2168
    @ascott2168 4 роки тому +65

    They both look great....but...Stinger all the way 👍🏽👌🏽

    • @Yondaily
      @Yondaily 4 роки тому

      What why?

    • @usernonameee
      @usernonameee 4 роки тому +4

      yonda ila better performance, better looking

    • @alexvalle750
      @alexvalle750 4 роки тому +4

      @@Yondaily Why? lol really? have u seen the history on VW reliability?

  • @dewfall56
    @dewfall56 2 роки тому +8

    Trunk lid on the Stinger was likely set to only open about half way. It can go all the way up if you change the settings. The reason is in case you park in a low ceiling place, the lid won't hit.

  • @wearysky3532
    @wearysky3532 3 роки тому +3

    Such a great review - just came across you guys looking for Stinger videos, since I just bought a 2020 GT Limited myself. You guys are hilarious!
    The Arteon is a nice looking car, for the most part... But that flat semicircle around the wheel wells? DO NOT LIKE.

  • @thestexplorer8949
    @thestexplorer8949 4 роки тому +4

    Here in America, as a Kia Motors U.S. salesman, the Stinger GT2 is what James is driving. The color is called Ceramic Silver. The wheels are styled different than the ones we have here, and we don’t offer 19 inch wheels. Everything else is about the same actually, but it’s very cool to see the differences among the two countries and what they offer.

  • @serbzero
    @serbzero 4 роки тому +10

    Great review fellas as usual! lets go for 500K subscribers! Love the Stinger (minus all the fake vents), would love to see next Mazda 6 in this league. Sportback + inline SIX Skyactive X + AWD :)

  • @brooklynbensonhurst9701
    @brooklynbensonhurst9701 4 роки тому +11

    To avoid damaging your wheels and blowing out tires going over potholes, you must inflate the tires to 36 or 38 pounds. I find that these configurations handled the potholes much better and you almost never damage the tire or the wheels

    • @ericd.4460
      @ericd.4460 3 роки тому +8

      Or you can just make sure that you've installed common sense wheels and tires on your car, because I'm actually the one in charge, not the car manufacturer.

  • @narekhart9862
    @narekhart9862 3 роки тому +25

    Im a performance addict but that vw is so nice to look at idc what they say

  • @dasvintage2182
    @dasvintage2182 4 роки тому +4

    I drive VW. Seeing this video made me so happy. You guys are great and funny 😂

  • @snowboardr9393
    @snowboardr9393 4 роки тому +4

    The fact that you guys mentioned IWC Schaffhausen & A. Lange & Söhne when you were talking about the clock made me love this channel that much more!

  • @stephenjablonsky1941
    @stephenjablonsky1941 Рік тому +2

    I have a 2022 Stinger GT-Line AWD and look forward to driving it every day. For $42,000 you get a great car with all the bells and whistles. So far I have 12k trouble-free miles. My dealership in Stamford is professional and friendly. I had two Optima Turbos before this and they were both trouble free and all I ever did was change the oil. They never needed servicing.

  • @mcseforsale
    @mcseforsale 3 роки тому +1

    I still own my '10 VW CC 6MT and it's still a blast to drive.

  • @UnderWarranty
    @UnderWarranty 4 роки тому +46

    Thanks for putting the MPG on the screen :)

    • @papn123
      @papn123 4 роки тому +6

      Corn Pop I thank them for using the right system in the first place *shots fired*

    • @AbdulrahmanHadid
      @AbdulrahmanHadid 4 роки тому +2

      it is probably US mpg not UK

    • @UnderWarranty
      @UnderWarranty 4 роки тому +1

      @@papn123 Ohhh no come back, Shots taken.

  • @mattprior8442
    @mattprior8442 4 роки тому +5

    Stinger is good looking different futuristic car until Arteon arrives !
    That VW just look badass villain car from 70s but modern in its core !
    I will chose Arteon in a heartbeat but in Stone Grey or in Jet Black with Navy blue interiors !

  • @stephenadams8189
    @stephenadams8189 4 роки тому +21

    I love my stinger gt2 I have 14000 miles on it. It’s amazing. I did have a rotor problem. At 12thousand miles They covered it in full. It’s tight. Fast. And beautiful. I’d buy another one for sure. Don’t know what’s his problem but must be something.

    • @JadaEbong
      @JadaEbong 4 роки тому

      How is the sound system on it?

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 3 роки тому +1

      @@JadaEbong Sound system is fantastic, the DSP effects are just brilliant.

    • @Boogetsbizzy
      @Boogetsbizzy 3 роки тому

      I heard about this rotor problem multiple times

    • @chili_d
      @chili_d 2 роки тому

      You were all in on the stinger. What’s the experience been like over the last two years??

  • @stefanobuccaci9294
    @stefanobuccaci9294 4 роки тому +1

    You guys are producing great videos!

  • @joelbielecki3501
    @joelbielecki3501 4 роки тому +83

    I think the Buick regal (Opel insignia) Sportback would be a more legit competitor for the arteon. the Stinger is simply a class above, more a competitor for the A5/S5.

    • @Yondaily
      @Yondaily 4 роки тому +1

      Noooooo

    • @chuckd7423
      @chuckd7423 4 роки тому +2

      The Buick Regal's interior doesn't compare well with the Arteon, but it's much less expensive. The best comparison, feature for feature, would be the Arteon and the 4 cylinder Stinger, but that Stinger version would also be thousands of dollars less than the Arteon.

    • @juelzm149
      @juelzm149 4 роки тому

      I agree! I would take the Regal over the Arteon in that case. Never been a VW guy but I found this interesting

    • @theblitz6838
      @theblitz6838 4 роки тому

      Ehh, the A5 is quite something else tho.

    • @jaredshelton4718
      @jaredshelton4718 4 роки тому +1

      @@Yondaily Yeeassss.

  • @aamirqz
    @aamirqz 4 роки тому +20

    Up until now, I wasn't a fan of the Arteon's styling, but I gotta say... the Chili Red paint, 20-inch graphite turbine wheels, and integrated LED DRLs make the Arteon look quite striking. I like the two-tone leather with the light gray inserts as well. Nicely done, although the MSRP is too high. Luckily there are discounts to be had on these.

  • @daynevickers1079
    @daynevickers1079 3 роки тому +35

    "Kiarrhea".... you guys are genuinely hilarious! I seem to suffer with the same ailment, undiagnosed, but now I understand it.

  • @golden2534gmailcom
    @golden2534gmailcom 4 роки тому

    love the way you guys start your videos very clever

  • @joeljeffrey9139
    @joeljeffrey9139 4 роки тому +175

    God that intro is tooo true about current Kia owners. Being badge snobs about not being a badge snob????

    • @Mgoblagulkablong
      @Mgoblagulkablong 4 роки тому +44

      Still much better than VW owners "If you don't love my car, you must be a jealous loser!"

    • @instantkamera
      @instantkamera 4 роки тому +11

      Former Forte SX and current GLI driver. What once was a genuine sentiment of pride in the quality and certainly *value* of Korean-made autos has taken off exponentially since the relative success (especially with enthusiasts) of the Stinger, Veloster N, etc.

    • @lmp9726
      @lmp9726 4 роки тому +21

      I've got a 2018 Stinger 2.0L, and love it. But let's face it, the Kia badge screams "thrifty". And then I recently found Korean badges on eBay for under $70, for the hood, the rear, the four wheels, and the steering wheel. I get asked at least once a week, "What kind of car is that?" 😊
      I'd be lying if I said that I didn't dig that.

    • @aosggame
      @aosggame 4 роки тому +13

      I think the Kia snobbery is fueled or a consequent result of badge snobs shitting on Kia in general.

    • @instantkamera
      @instantkamera 4 роки тому +5

      @@lmp9726 The only thing worse than the Kia badge is replacement 'K' badges. IMO those are all tacky AF, and the designs don't age well.

  • @tirelomagane5467
    @tirelomagane5467 4 роки тому +80

    Showing love from South Africa

    • @mbulelogumede6903
      @mbulelogumede6903 4 роки тому +2

      I am too

    • @varsity2845
      @varsity2845 4 роки тому +2

      You guys have internet?

    • @mbulelogumede6903
      @mbulelogumede6903 4 роки тому +3

      @@varsity2845 oh wow, hehe. Not only internet. The network I'm using (RAIN) soom will be offering 5G.

    • @varsity2845
      @varsity2845 4 роки тому +2

      mbulelo gumede haha that’s awesome. I’m messing with you lo

    • @chrwl007
      @chrwl007 4 роки тому +3

      @@varsity2845 No, we still use carrier pigeons and smoke signals

  • @alanparsonsfan
    @alanparsonsfan 4 роки тому +9

    Great review, good interplay with good humor--fascinating for me because I drive a car that's really right between these two. My 2007 Hyundai Azera has punch (for it's day, 263hp), but also all of the room and comfort of the Arteon. Not a hatch, but a huge trunk with fold down seats. High reliability--still concerned about VW electricals. Both cars look better than the Azera, but that's the march of time. And the 13 speaker 600-watt Infiniti isn't bad either. I expect to look into the 2.4 Stinger at some point--after I've put yet another 100k on the Azera. Daughter has a 2012 Kia Soul with 170k on it now, it's been humming since new. Azera is a steal because they depreciated as if they were bad old Hyundais. Not surprised at all to hear about the Stinger and the G70...

    • @ericd.4460
      @ericd.4460 3 роки тому +4

      Azera is a very good car.

  • @nillbill6639
    @nillbill6639 Рік тому

    You guys rock! I love your honest reviews eh.

  • @kevinyoo0501
    @kevinyoo0501 4 роки тому +106

    I suggest Stinger versus Charger would be another interesting match.

    • @dmn2273
      @dmn2273 4 роки тому +11

      Would be! But price for price a Scat Pack would eat this thing in performance and price.

    • @__-xf3iw
      @__-xf3iw 4 роки тому +8

      Well this isn't a boat comparison. Just kidding but i think the Stinger is just better for sportive driving on a curvy landroad. The Charger is a cruiser. But both are fucking heavy.

    • @St1ngerGuy
      @St1ngerGuy 4 роки тому +34

      I own a Stinger GT2 but recently went to California and rented a Dodge Charger RT. Performance wise, the Stinger completely destroys the Charger. That said, the Charger exhaust sounds better and it handled pretty well. I am glad I rented it, had some fun with it on some winding roads. It did reaffirm my choice in the Stinger though. The interior of the Charger is crap compared to the Stinger.

    • @flclkun5479
      @flclkun5479 4 роки тому +11

      @@dmn2273 you constantly see the awd stingers destroying scat pack chargers from a dig. awd is no joke.

    • @darianward6841
      @darianward6841 4 роки тому

      We talking about a charger V6 or?

  • @_LEONKING_
    @_LEONKING_ 4 роки тому +35

    This channel is basically like if Doug Demuro was 2 cool guys from Canada, I like it!

    • @wristoww
      @wristoww 4 роки тому +16

      I love Doug, but these guys are definitely way less annoying than Doug lol. He’s just so freakin nitpicky

    • @TheIceMurder2
      @TheIceMurder2 4 роки тому +8

      And with way higher production quality. I'm pretty sure Doug films his videos on an iPhone and has minimal editing.

    • @bachhunghoang
      @bachhunghoang 4 роки тому

      @@TheIceMurder2 yep, he uses his iphone to make videos

    • @_LEONKING_
      @_LEONKING_ 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheIceMurder2 true, these guys are great.

    • @santiagocalderon3261
      @santiagocalderon3261 4 роки тому +9

      @@wristoww nah, Doug is great, its just a different approach to car reviews, I personally enjoy both

  • @shahakahmad2919
    @shahakahmad2919 3 роки тому +32

    "V10 for life lmao" love these guys!

  • @JEdmund81
    @JEdmund81 2 роки тому +6

    Both great looking cars! I'd go Stinger though for the extra sportiness.

  • @waynemagin2554
    @waynemagin2554 4 роки тому +5

    Do a APR stage one tune, will put you north of 300 hp, also replace the stock DCC dampeners with Bilstein replacements soon to be out. The car is great as is, but with the before mentioned items, it just up the game nicely. You guys are great, lots of tech perspectives, good banter with smart humor, keep it up. You won a subscriber !!

  • @mikewazowski7613
    @mikewazowski7613 4 роки тому +63

    Kia Ria.......Holy hell that had me cracking up. Great video as always fellas. congrats on the increasing subs, the hard work is paying off.

    • @xWheatThinz
      @xWheatThinz 4 роки тому +4

      Ria 🙄 I think you mean rrhea as in diarrhea...

    • @Yondaily
      @Yondaily 4 роки тому

      Kevin Hughes ewww

  • @splatbubble
    @splatbubble Рік тому

    I dig this channel very much.
    I finally drove an Arteon (actually, both the new one and the old one) on the same day (yesterday) after waiting 2 years. I've always been attracted to the leatherette seat availability and the potential for tuning (which is massive.) I drove the 300hp version and even keeping it under 4000 rpm (pre-breakin) it felt pretty nice. Then I drove the 268hp one a few hours later, and booted it... honestly I don't even think I'd need to tune the thing. Fun as hell... almost tempted to drop my 2020 WRX for one... (crazy, I know).
    Perspective, 2017 GTI 6spd is my daily, and I traded my E63 wagon for an Alltrack (and some coin)....so feel free to call me a nut. EDIT: I would have bought a Stinger GT years ago if they had leatherette.
    Keep making the awesome content fellas.

  • @JamieToddBand
    @JamieToddBand 3 роки тому +5

    I wanted to like the Stinger, but loved and bought a Civic Type R. Great comparo. Long live the Hatch (since we don't get wagons).

    • @leonsam84
      @leonsam84 3 роки тому +1

      if only the type R was designed for young adults I would of got one too

  • @superdestrier9160
    @superdestrier9160 4 роки тому +6

    In the intro, they should have timed the bell sound with Thomas's punch.

  • @danlittle447
    @danlittle447 4 роки тому +5

    As a dad, I finally put my pride to the side and made the best value purchase and bought a Stinger GT2, ghost grey with red interior

    • @paulnieder4236
      @paulnieder4236 4 роки тому +2

      My wife said my next car had to be a 5-seater.
      So I bought a Stinger. Atomic Blue.
      Three kids to transport in style!

    • @paulnieder4236
      @paulnieder4236 4 роки тому

      @Alastors_minion I'm very happy with it.

    • @danlittle447
      @danlittle447 4 роки тому

      Alastors_minion I love it, not many people know what it is which I think is awesome . Turns a lot of heads and feels very luxurious with the red interior

  • @shopwithaaron
    @shopwithaaron 3 роки тому +1

    I think I've got that Kia disease...We're on our third Optima...Now driving the 2017 SXL with every option...Love the Turbo and Nappa leather and all the rest...Fast, comfy and so much tech! I guess I'm in it for...my pleasure!

  • @entegar3
    @entegar3 Рік тому

    whatta fun review ! regards from N. Texas.

  • @samuelolee5989
    @samuelolee5989 4 роки тому +3

    Great job guys! Love both those cars -- that Arteon is one good-looking design. By the way, I don't have Kiarrhoea; I suffer and endure chronic Miatarrhoea from MX5 carriers descended from chimney sweepers and intrepid defenders of dollarama posh spice

    • @jjk10
      @jjk10 3 роки тому +1

      Wtf are u talking about

  • @Christyleadbitter
    @Christyleadbitter 4 роки тому +17

    I love the the look of the arteon. But it does need more! I really think Volkswagen should do an all performance version

    • @vladblak
      @vladblak Рік тому +1

      just go for a stage 1 and boom 370 HP with 480 NM of torque, that's it

    • @carlvoer232
      @carlvoer232 Рік тому

      @@vladblak and there goes your warranty

    • @kingvega666
      @kingvega666 8 місяців тому

      ​@@vladblaklol no

  • @karabomkhondo7418
    @karabomkhondo7418 2 роки тому

    Am I the only one who feels like these guys can take the batten from Jezza, Ham and May? They’re funny, one is performance and the other represents us normal simpletons. Much love from South Africa guys 🤜🏾🤛🏾

  • @connerthatdude9369
    @connerthatdude9369 Рік тому

    My dad just bought a Kia stinger and really loves it. I love it too

  • @DazdnCofuzd
    @DazdnCofuzd 4 роки тому +142

    The front end of the VW looks better, but overall the Stinger does look better. I'd take the Stinger for sure, nothing against the VW.

    • @DannyGodlewski
      @DannyGodlewski 4 роки тому +2

      DazdnConfuzd I was thinking of something similar. I really like elements of both, like the front of the VW, which also emphasizes how bad the front of the stinger looks (and those dumb side marker stripes on the taillights). I’d like to fit the front end/ interior front cabin of the vw, and combine it w the remaining parts of the stinger.

    • @alexmcdole4190
      @alexmcdole4190 4 роки тому +7

      I used to work at a Volkswagen and Kia dealership.Back in the day Kia was terrible but,but now they are pretty good and for Volkswagen I'll never buy.That's just my experience from being around both products.

    • @RIZFERD
      @RIZFERD 4 роки тому +7

      Arteon R-line 4Motion (all wheel drive) it is! Who needs to drive fast daily? Want to get fast, get a helicopter really.
      VW are best for daily.

    • @madclapper3237
      @madclapper3237 4 роки тому +4

      @@DannyGodlewski I read on a stinger forum that the side stripes are due to some sort of regulations and it was more of an after thought to comply with those regulations. I have the panthera metal and will black those out. Should blend well.

    • @MrFister84
      @MrFister84 3 роки тому

      @@RIZFERD Until they don't start.

  • @denale6887
    @denale6887 4 роки тому +13

    For the Stinger: try using the Cruise Control as much as possible in town .. even to increase speeds .. this should aid with MPG

    • @sunofshangoihate45thihated85
      @sunofshangoihate45thihated85 4 роки тому

      D. Ande Ward I agree

    • @darylaarons6625
      @darylaarons6625 4 роки тому +7

      D. Ande Ward, I think, generally, people who buy sporty cars aren’t as concerned with getting good fuel economy. Or maybe it’s just me.

  • @benjaminsmith2287
    @benjaminsmith2287 4 роки тому +9

    The opening sketch is so hilarious. I miss these guys but they're staying safe in Canada. About the Stinger, I think I prefer this interior design to the Telluride/2021 Optima. They both have wonderful interiors but I think if they deleted the faux stitching and faux wood, as well as both are implemented, those two would be even more premium looking. The Stinger doesn't have that and looks fine without it. I l really like the Stinger's interior and hope they don't add faux wood, or even real wood, when it is redesigned.

    • @ericd.4460
      @ericd.4460 3 роки тому +1

      There's no wood in the new one, and I like it.

  • @svtcarboy
    @svtcarboy Рік тому +19

    This needs an update. The additional 32hp and DSG make a world of difference. I also found the drive modes on the new Arteon make a big difference in how it drives. While less sporty than the Stinger, the 2022 revisions gave the Arteon a real dose of sportiness.

    • @alexlioce5942
      @alexlioce5942 8 місяців тому

      Backed 100%. As a big VW nerd I have driven a 2023 Arteon and it put my ass in the seat real quick, noticeably quicker than the outgoing automatic

    • @marlo8850
      @marlo8850 7 місяців тому

      The stinger had one last update too and its got a new infotainment system, bigger screen and its faster, which was the only issue with the stinger, they also got rid of the 4 cylinder and diesel versions, its also significantly cheaper now and you can get a used one for around 20k. In my opinion a superior car to the Passat reskin

  • @crimsonstang
    @crimsonstang 4 роки тому +10

    Engineering Explained had the same wheel issue with his Tesla Model 3! The large wheel and low profile tire couldn't handle the pothole.

  • @rsr789
    @rsr789 4 роки тому +18

    "I'll take a A. Lange & Söhne" Oooo fancy.

  • @argkatt9040
    @argkatt9040 4 роки тому +1

    I like the work you do but if I could make a request it would be to see more station wagons.

  • @darylanderson5810
    @darylanderson5810 8 місяців тому

    I love these guys!! They are so much fun!

  • @AK-fv7mp
    @AK-fv7mp 4 роки тому +18

    I love the GT2 trim of the Stinger

  • @stephenwells6945
    @stephenwells6945 3 роки тому +12

    i think you guys missed something important on the Arteon. If you go into settings, you can set a custom mode for the dynamic chassis control. There are several stops tighter then the custom mode. It does make a difference.

    • @growmafia4113
      @growmafia4113 Рік тому

      What?! That makes a world of a difference. I HIGHLY value my 13 Jetta bc of the control it has over the road. Handles even better, now that I built and installed some custom Bilstein struts 😊👌🏾

  • @mamoru480
    @mamoru480 4 роки тому

    Yall are talented. Lol definitely needed to subscribe.

  • @Vwjl1207
    @Vwjl1207 8 місяців тому

    So glad they added the extra 32 hp in the Arteon. It's beautiful, roomy and I love it.

  • @sachemrock
    @sachemrock 4 роки тому +6

    Another great review by the dynamic duo! I thought the Stinger would come out ahead but now I am very curious about the Arteon. I usually find my tastes more in alignment with James versus Thomas, so without driving them I guess I would choose the Arteon. Fantastic job guys, another great review!

    • @ericd.4460
      @ericd.4460 3 роки тому +4

      Okay......but you know that they both chose the KIA.....right?

  • @jaypalo
    @jaypalo 3 роки тому +3

    Awesome video! Subbed
    I’m looking forward to getting a Kia stinger in the future!

    • @davidperri8862
      @davidperri8862 3 роки тому

      Test drive a Stinger (a nice car) then go drive an Alfa Romeo Giulia (fall in love)

    • @jaypalo
      @jaypalo 3 роки тому

      David Perri my uncle actually did and got the stinger. Couldn’t turn down a 2020 GT1 for 38k out the door.

    • @blackdragon9077
      @blackdragon9077 3 роки тому

      @@davidperri8862 VW don’t have the Horse Power, hp is what counts not something under power

  • @stevemclain2691
    @stevemclain2691 3 роки тому

    You guys are AWESOME!

  • @robertadryan3996
    @robertadryan3996 4 роки тому

    The beginning is absolutely the best intro

  • @bartandaelus359
    @bartandaelus359 2 роки тому +24

    The stinger's red interior looks absolutely sublime.

  • @theduke5180
    @theduke5180 4 роки тому +18

    I'm getting some Old Top Gear U.K vibes. I love it. (Especially at the 1:12 area)

  • @LadybirdDrivingSchool
    @LadybirdDrivingSchool 4 роки тому

    Great review guys 👍

  • @biendiego57
    @biendiego57 3 роки тому +3

    This Kia with the new k5 front would be awesome. I think the stinger needs a more agresive front. vw repeats the same formula in theirs designs... Nothing new but .. it really works. Arteon looks amazing !