Not always. In Australia for example the R line is the performance version and there is no R. You bump up the horsepower by 40ish by going with the R line and get launch control. Car names are confusing and inconsistent haha
I like how they call 268 HP "good everyday power"...while my new car has 72 HP and it is perfectly capable for my everyday driving in the german autobahn :x
Omar it competes with the A7 100% every other car review that has mentioned the A5 is off. Price point on both A5 Sport back and an A7 is still ways away from the max PP of the Arteon, But the size is where its more comparable, its literally a few inches shorter in total length than an A7, But more than 10 inches longer than an A5.
The CC atleast gave you a feeling of luxury. The door covers weren't just plastic, the insulation was really well done.. The Arteon is literally just a Golf in a different chassis
@@leeeinfield True, but then again you can look at the Golf R vs the S3. If there's enough unique characteristics with regards to the chassis, suspension, etc., I think it could be enough to warrant its own performance model.
Just got an Arteon, absolutely love it because no one else has them and they look beautiful. Some turbo lag off the line but I do play with the settings a lot. Find it to be pretty brisk on the highway but it's nothing crazy. What I love the most is that it is classic VW, understated German design that ages well and has rock solid build quality.
My grandfather has an Arteon, and I love it. Plenty of power and plenty of quality. I'm also pretty sure that his car is the only civilian-owned Arteon in my state.
@@gs98999 Actually a car WITHOUT front plates look out of place, when ever I see a Quebecios car or a Pennsylvanian car, the front end looks bare. Also, what if a truck or car is towing and is obscuring the rear licence plate? How will you be able to run the plates through?
The Arteon is based on the European Passat B8, so I guess you now finally get the kind of "Passat" that Europe already has since 2014. The interior is pretty much the same when you compare the Arteon to a Passat B8 HighLine or R-Line.
Raven16691 although I like what they're doing with the styling of the Arteon, I'd probably prefer the Passat looks with all these premium features. At least awd.
I test drove 5 cars last weekend. I boiled down my choices to either a BMW 330xi and the Arteon (2020). Even though the 330xi had a better interior experience, I picked the Arteon. For the same money, the driving experience is about the same, and the Arteon comes with more features for the same price.
I own a 2019 Arteon SEL Premium R-Line that I purchased new for $39,500 USD. An absolute stunning car for the money and loaded to boot! Gas mileage on a trip: 34 mpg. Put an APR+ tune in it for $1,200 USD which brought up the horsepower to 368 and the torque to 358 lb/ft. 0-60 mph in the very low 5's.
This by far the best VW I've ever owned. Once the lease is over, my Arteon will get a stage 1 APR tune. I'm pretty happy with the performance as it sits. Plus, no one owns one. Less than 500 sold per year in Canada. Lots and lots of looks!
So I'm planning on tuning mine as well, I just crossed the 40,000 mile marker but you have to watch the transmission because it's an 8-speed aisin not the dsg thats ok with more power. so it can't take any more than 330 ft lb of torque (at least that's what the manual for it said when I read it) and I know the APR stage one tune (and a ton of others) goes well above that... Just something to look out for....I found ABT will tune it right before the limit of the transmission so thats what Im gunna get.... Figured I'd tell someone about this before they wind up paying five grand for a new transmission since it lives rent free in my head
I own both a KIA (Sorento) and a VW (GTI). I love them both so there's no brand bias here in a choice between the Arteon and the Stinger. I've driven both vehicles and if I were choosing between the turbo4 engines in each, I'd opt for the Arteon without question. Comparing the Arteon to the higher spec 3.3L V6 in the Stinger and the choice is more difficult. I think Mr. Biermann and his colleagues at Hyundai/KIA have done a remarkable job of building an American-ized version of a European GT sedan at a reasonable price. But I think the differences between the Stinger and the Arteon highlight the different perspectives of Americans (both north and south of the Canadian border) and Europeans in terms of what "performance" means. There's a reason that Americans invented drag racing while Europeans invented rallies. Road racing in America often means circling high banked ovals in stadiums while Europeans think of road racing on public roads or tracks designed to emulate them. For Americans "performance" often begins and ends with straight line acceleration to 60 mph and quarter mile times. For Europeans "performance" in a GT sedan often means traveling in comfort at 100 mph+ on superbly maintained highways or threading roads often laid down originally by the Romans two millennia ago. VW has a history of trying to interest Americans in the Euro-spec vehicles with almost no success. Americans want larger, cheaper VW's than Europeans. The Arteon represents still another effort along that line. (One exception for the Arteon. The North American version uses a conventional 8 speed transmission while the Euro version has a DCT.) I have no doubt that more Americans will choose the Stinger over the VW. But for those who value a true European GT driving experience with accommodations for four the Arteon outpoints the Stinger.
I agree with most of what you said but this car miserably fails the sales even in Europe. This is unlike Golf R a big car for 4motion to handle. If they threw the same awd in Toureg could be amazing but yeah thats basically stepping on Audi’s toes. And the haldex based 4wds suck so bad. Its no brainer why people go for stinger in USA. Its a real GT unlike this piece of crap. In my opinion this is just another niche model, which will be discontinued just like scirocco.
Saxybeast 89 LMFAO I don’t blame you, Us Ontario Drivers fucking suck 😂😂 I live in Brampton Ontario. The highest car insurance rates in NA for accidents and insurance fraud
This car is much prettier than a Stinger, in my humble opinion. And I would argue that it is perfectly appropriate for 99% of the real-world driving that people do. If you want to be a menace to other drivers, get a GTI or a Golf R. Huge kudos go to Volkswagen for not just making another SUV. The only thing that would make these genuinely better would be to actually have them at the VW dealerships. It's 2023 now, and you still can't find them.
I have virtually the same car in the UK but the big differences I notice are, I have launch control, a heads up display, a larger infotainment, dynaudio speaker system and of course a dual clutch gearbox. Seems we get a better version.
The Straight Pipes, making Ontario plates cool one show at a time, hope ya have a great holiday and take some time to relax, your pace is very very fast right now and the proof is in the puding, well done.
I have stage 2 they used my car for the research and development got all the good stuff 387 hp and 409 lb torque. The car is awesome very pleased and still get good gas mileage.
Kenneth Sackrider what kinda gas mileage would that be? Because I know the Passat with the big 280hp petrol engine gets really bad mileage so I can’t image a stage 2 tuned version being better.
It has a launch control. Go to sport mode, then car -> settings -> turn off traction control -> hold the brake pedal and press accelerator. The you will see "Launch control program activated" -> release the break. There you have it.
Reg customized settings: Skoda Superb L&K. 280 HP, Haledex-5 all wheel hang on system. HAS launch control: 0-100 km/h: 5,8 seconds. Love the all wheel-drive with that motor and the 6 (!)-Drive dual clutch. Always switch between ‚comfort‘ and custom: everything on ‚sport‘ except the transmission.
Got one my self at a great price the 2021 SE Trim. I came from a jetta 2019. I’m loving the Arteon the ride, the elegant interior, everything. I’m very happy with it.
Sorry guys, I do not get your continued hatred of a volume button that turns the little on/off symbol in the middle. ??? In a million years, I would never notice, or be bothered by that. I have that feature in my 2018 Golf, and I’m so obsessed by this issue, that every time someone new is in my car, I show them my volume knob, and ask if it bothers them. Their blank stares tell the story. Just had to let you know, love your channel, and your chemistry with each other.
@Богдан Кондратов Having put about 40K miles on a Stage 1 APR tuned MK6 GTI putting it altogether at over 100K miles before trading it for a MK7.5, I'd have to dispute that characterization. So would the other members of the Golf R/GTI owners group here in the Pacific NW.
@@chaseedgren3097 yep, the transmission is only rated to handle a certain amount of torque. Tune at your own risk, or only use that power very intermittently, to reduce trans wear
always on individual in my gti: engine (soundaktor and throttle response) - normal steering - sport (more effort) adaptive lighting - sport (doesn't lag when following curves, not sure why you'd want it any other way) front diff - sport (locks up earlier)
I bought an arteon after watching this review. Theres SICK deals on them right now bc they arent moving off lots. Kia dealerships in my area havent had any issues moving them, so they didnt want to come down on price really.
I have one with a stage 1 APR tune so it’s basically a bigger golf R with lane centering and a bunch of other European options activated thru VCDS. Also front plate stays in the trunk.
How do you not have a million subscribers yet? I'm not satisfied with a review until I watch @TheStraightPipes. THE BEST AUTO REVIEWERS ON UA-cam!! Merry Christmas, guys!
Not sure why everyone is so hyped about the Arteon. Sure, it looks great and is the nicest car from VW (perhaps excluding Touareg) but it costs the same as an Audi A5, which is better in every way (design arguable), especially interior quality.
I personally like the A5 sportback in comparison, but they seem to be going for $10-15k more for only slightly nicer trim levels. Also much less back seat room if that matters.
I have it for almost two years and still people are stopping to say how beautiful it is, and it really is something special. Btw, you can set the Lane keep assist to adaptive mode which is lane centering.
Arteon all the way. Probably stage 1 tune it right away with all the savings from the difference between the A7, to bring it to or above Kia stinger butt specs. I'm a car shaped cat lover, wagons for life. I'm with you. If sportbacks keep the sedans alive, I'm okay with that world.
@@chocolatewheelchair The "void the warranty" comment is made often but it represents a misunderstanding of reality. In fact, the warranty is voided only if a modification can be shown to directly result in a component failure. That won't necessarily result in a fix under warranty but numerous court cases support that interpretation. Furthermore, many VW dealers (including mine) actually offer tuning services and honor warranty claims without question. Finally, tuning companies such as APR offer low cost warranties that mimic the full factory warranty protection.
Just this week, VW offered me to swap my GT (Passat) for an Arteon. Unfortunately, even with all the promos and discount, I’m too early in my lease for it to be worth it (penalty too high and nullifies part of promos). I can tell though, they’re having trouble selling this car, probably for the reasons you mentioned (price, engine power)... Might swap, but at the right price only...
Богдан Кондратов true, only the AWD would be a nice upgrade.... my GT has 0 grip on snow due to its large tires... my fault, should have downsized. Live and learn right.
Just wanna say your channel is the best lol I been watching your vids for a couple of months now and every video is informative, comedic and entertaining without trying to hard, and you never leave an absence in dialogue. You guys always know what to say, at all times. You speak on every single detail and i don't recall any other review channel doing that. Everything you guys do is spot on and i used to watch throttle house, which are awesome guys, and i love their channel too, but i found myself watching your channel more now. And less theirs. But i still love their channel too. I just like yours more now lol. With that said, please do a dodge charger scat pack!! Only because i'm getting on in spring so i kinda wanna see your review on it.
Please review the 2022 model! It has 300hp and DCT! Would love to know your take on it. More importantly, you'd be one of the first to review. Not many are reviewing it because most think it's the same as previous years, which it isn't.
What other lift back cars exist? -Audi A/S/RS5 & 7 -Kia Stinger -BMW 4 & 6 series Gran Coupe -VW Arteon -Mercedes GT63 Anything else? I really feel this could be the future of sedans, and deservedly so.
I customize the drive modes of my new Mercedes A 220. The throttle response feels great in comfort mode. The steering feels a little bit heavier in sport. It doesn't make that big of a difference after all because it's not a sports car. But I still like to customize it just to make it feel a bit more personal.
The Arteon replaced the Passat CC. Driven a few of them and thing they look absolutely fantastic, especially in black. There is a air slammed one with giant chrome wheels driving around where I live. Looks so cool.
This car needs the engine from the S4/S5, call it the Arteon R (not R line). Sure it would bump up the price (a little), and I might be the only purchaser, but yeah they should do it.
Also, I have customized my VW CC. I made several changes in the settings and also made changes to the LED lights, climate control, ECU, and other features using the OBD eleven plug in and app.....to answer the question in the video 😉
Ontario plates are ugly to me, I'm from here though so that might change my opinion. We have the ugliest plates in Canada, We should start a petition for better plates. Doug Ford might just go for it
I once owned a 2006 B6 Passat 2.0T (automatic). Bought it new at the dealer and took it for all scheduled maintenance services. Within the first 6 months, it had transmission issues and air con issues. The issues never stopped. After my 4 yr warranty expired, I was spending $3K/yr avg on repairs. I got rid of it and I will never look back to VW specific line of cars. Their dealerships/service centers in Long Island, New York are horrible and zero commitment to making their customers happy. Nor does VW in the United States. This could be totally different in Europe. I am happy to share details if anyone is interested.
I have two sport sedans, and both I customize all the time. I turn the vents, set the temperature...I even shift all by myself in both of them (manuals).
I'm leaving in Germany currently and actually I crossed shop those with my current Kia Stinger. I do not regret, feel, design, power, extras and price were the deciding factors. Let me know when you visit Munich, my exhaust is loud 😎
Unfortunately, Ontario front plates are still not cool. It's one thing I like about living in Saskatchewan: no front plates! Also, are you guys going to be doing an Outback review?
@Careful_Eugene My neighbour has a Challenger and it looks better with one, also, the Challenger is built in Brampton, Ontario, Canada where we have front licence plates
The Predecessor of the Arteon is the discontinued Passat CC,i would get a 2013 Passat CC,becuse in that year it got facelifted and looked awesome,and you could get it with a 3.6L V6 with 300hp that sounds AWESOME even when stock.And you could get Lane Keep Assist and Adaptive Cruise in that year too,so its not much behind on tech either.
I have a non-sports car that I had to customize via OBDII. I have the 2017 Ford Fusion Sport (that you reviewed in a half-assed kinda way... it deserved better guys). Using Forscan with an ODBII connection, you can enable the Lincoln features that allow you to customize the steering and suspension modes independently of the main "sport mode". Now in the summer I keep the suspension and steering in sport mode and it makes the car 1000% better (you should re-do your review with that enabled). In the winter I drop them down to "normal", which is still higher than Ford's default (comfort).
I was about to buy a Jetta GLI when I discovered this car. AWD is a huge selling point for me as is the sport back functionality and killer good looks. I’m buying mine tomorrow having test drove it yesterday. The fact that you guys posted this video on Christmas Eve must be the Car Gods telling me to do it.
@@tzsenpai5950 I have 10,600 miles on it now and the car has been perfect, not a single issue. It's good in the snow with the stock all season tires, it's comfortable for four full sized adults, it's smooth and quiet, it's quick, and it's a great road trip car. Recently took it on a 7 hour trip from NNY to Maine and got 540 miles of range per tank on the highway. I like it so much I'm considering getting a 2020 SEL R line if I can get the same deal I got last year.
yeah, only Lexus has uglier front grills than that Sonata...as others noted, looks like a catfish. TOO MUCH GRILL. That Arteon grill is freaking nice, not best right now, but on that side of the fence for sure.
Have a 2018 Tiguan in the family. Can only customise a few things, but I keep sports steering regardless of whatever settings I want because it’s more precise.
VW and Audi of America almost always water down what gets sent to the US; they seem to think North Americans are dumb, lazy idiots who just want cupholders and automatics mostly. VW and Audi of America management should be cleaned out and started over again, it's been a problem for decades.
TheStraightPipes no cause the dsg is so unreliable! North America is not their strongest market so, they are trying to increase their marketshare by giving you guys more reliable tech. Friend of mine owns dsg golf, after the warranty ends he is thinking about selling it.
those aren't blank buttons, its a design thing, I asked my dealer when I bought my GTI. Different cars have different buttons. They use that same housing for all of them, I agree though it looks tacky.
It already has almost 270hp lol it’s not meant to be a sports car. The car clearly isn’t for you if you want 300+ hp. The average daily driver is around 140hp.
I don't know why all the hate for the NA Passat, the SE with the VR6 is a world of difference from the TSI. And I have customized the settings in it as well.
@@sic22l But they're similarly priced. The arteon doesn't give enough to ask for such a high price tag. Maybe if they put a bigger engine...literally any v6... Maybe it'd be worth it but currently fuck no
One advantage this has over my golf R, is that in the custom drive mode, you can now dial in the DCC. previously you could only choose comfort, normal, and sport/race
A7 is a different snack bracket and my overall fave. But a Stinger GT will beat up this Arteon and take its lunch money every single day. I prefer the Kia's exterior styling, but give the nod to the VW on the interior - which does a pretty good Audi impersonation. But the performance gap is so huge, it's not even a close call. Kia kills this thing.
Hey the new one gets the Golf R motor! Still a big ol girl but a huge chunk of change savings vs the S5 sportback and way more power than the A4 sportback.
Custom settings? I like to put everything into sport except the "bounce" level of the suspension if you can or leave the suspension at comfort or normal. Makes the steering a bit heavier, performance better, body roll, etc, while still not feeling like your kidneys will fall out on the ice heaves and potholes.
Is the Arteon cool? Would you get it over the Kia Stinger GT or Audi A7?
No
hmm i would go with the stinger gt
no
Audi because i can go to the racetrack cause it's more powerful
GT
R-line means it has the R trim pieces and more kit, not R performance. The actual performance versions are just called R. Like the Golf R.
simplicated99 exactly
Bruno Freitas except they’re Canadian
It’s like how Lexus has just f and f sport
Like Kia’s GT-line but I actually don’t think those are in Canada
Not always. In Australia for example the R line is the performance version and there is no R. You bump up the horsepower by 40ish by going with the R line and get launch control. Car names are confusing and inconsistent haha
I like how they call 268 HP "good everyday power"...while my new car has 72 HP and it is perfectly capable for my everyday driving in the german autobahn :x
Merica 😎
Charlee Harvey but we drive way faster on the German Autobahn
people in California hog the left lane, and gets mad when you pass them to the right fast. It's absurd.
Same on my SEAT But 10+ "82 hp"
well my car has only 67hp 😭
It competes with the A5 sportback not the A7.
@@christopher-gardner Savage
It's way larger than a A5
Troy Burtwell there’s always room for mom jokes.
@@Armadurapersonal
Arteon wheelbase: 2,842mm
A5 wheelbase: 2,811mm
A7 wheelbase: 2,914mm
Omar it competes with the A7 100% every other car review that has mentioned the A5 is off. Price point on both A5 Sport back and an A7 is still ways away from the max PP of the Arteon, But the size is where its more comparable, its literally a few inches shorter in total length than an A7, But more than 10 inches longer than an A5.
The Arteon just replaces the discontinued CC.
The CC atleast gave you a feeling of luxury. The door covers weren't just plastic, the insulation was really well done.. The Arteon is literally just a Golf in a different chassis
@@TheMuchti i owned a 2015 CC and the lower door panels were literally just scratchy hard-touch plastic, drove me crazy.
@Franco Cavalli I don't know what's wrong with VW in North America, because here in Europe VWs are some of the best.
@Franco Cavalli Definitely. I'm a VW lover above everything, but their quality gets worse and worse but the prices are climbing high.
@Franco Cavalli take care of it and it would have been fine. Also the 2.0 sucks should have gotten a 3.6
They *need* to make a straight up Arteon R
OMG YESSSSS
Kieran Townsend I figured that’s why they purposely made it so lackluster, they’re planning a faster model when a new power plant comes around
@@danielsaucedo5863 That'd definitely make sense! It's got a lot of potential.
I doubt it. Otherwise they’d be stepping on Audi’s territory. Same as to why there is no GLI with AWD as that’s pretty much an A3 Quattro
@@leeeinfield True, but then again you can look at the Golf R vs the S3. If there's enough unique characteristics with regards to the chassis, suspension, etc., I think it could be enough to warrant its own performance model.
Just got an Arteon, absolutely love it because no one else has them and they look beautiful. Some turbo lag off the line but I do play with the settings a lot. Find it to be pretty brisk on the highway but it's nothing crazy. What I love the most is that it is classic VW, understated German design that ages well and has rock solid build quality.
Michael Schafer Got mine about a month ago and love it. Performs well and has enough zip for me. And the look is a great blend of sporty and elegance.
Rock solid build quality? As in it turns into a rock when it breaks.
I have the 2.0 R-Line. With JB4 fitted. One thing that bothers me is how long it takes the clutch to engage from standstill when you’re in a rush.
Try manual mode. Basically no lag.
@@eitanrapp That's why they put an 8 speed in the US.
My grandfather has an Arteon, and I love it. Plenty of power and plenty of quality. I'm also pretty sure that his car is the only civilian-owned Arteon in my state.
Front plates are not cool, period.
They are good for safety though and being able to catch dangerous drivers
@@repCanada How are they good for safety? Catching drivers maybe.... but they dont make anything safer
Glad we don’t have front plates in AB. Looks so out of place imo
Live in Ohio, front plates will no longer be required here in 2020 - although my 2012 Genesis has never had a front plate on it. 😁
@@gs98999 Actually a car WITHOUT front plates look out of place, when ever I see a Quebecios car or a Pennsylvanian car, the front end looks bare. Also, what if a truck or car is towing and is obscuring the rear licence plate? How will you be able to run the plates through?
The Arteon is based on the European Passat B8, so I guess you now finally get the kind of "Passat" that Europe already has since 2014. The interior is pretty much the same when you compare the Arteon to a Passat B8 HighLine or R-Line.
Raven16691 although I like what they're doing with the styling of the Arteon, I'd probably prefer the Passat looks with all these premium features. At least awd.
The Arteon is actually LARGER than the Passat around the world. I can’t believe I get to see well, dumb people on the Internet on cars. Gotcha!
I test drove 5 cars last weekend. I boiled down my choices to either a BMW 330xi and the Arteon (2020). Even though the 330xi had a better interior experience, I picked the Arteon. For the same money, the driving experience is about the same, and the Arteon comes with more features for the same price.
Which features
Happy holidays, guys! Looking forward to another year of great videos in 2020! 🥂
Thanks, same to you!
But not 2020😂
this did not age well, did it?
I own a 2019 Arteon SEL Premium R-Line that I purchased new for $39,500 USD. An absolute stunning car for the money and loaded to boot! Gas mileage on a trip: 34 mpg. Put an APR+ tune in it for $1,200 USD which brought up the horsepower to 368 and the torque to 358 lb/ft. 0-60 mph in the very low 5's.
Thanks for posting. I'm being offered a new 2019 SE for 26K (vehicle price). What do you think?
Woww 100 hp for stage 1?
This by far the best VW I've ever owned. Once the lease is over, my Arteon will get a stage 1 APR tune. I'm pretty happy with the performance as it sits. Plus, no one owns one. Less than 500 sold per year in Canada. Lots and lots of looks!
So I'm planning on tuning mine as well, I just crossed the 40,000 mile marker but you have to watch the transmission because it's an 8-speed aisin not the dsg thats ok with more power. so it can't take any more than 330 ft lb of torque (at least that's what the manual for it said when I read it) and I know the APR stage one tune (and a ton of others) goes well above that... Just something to look out for....I found ABT will tune it right before the limit of the transmission so thats what Im gunna get....
Figured I'd tell someone about this before they wind up paying five grand for a new transmission since it lives rent free in my head
I own both a KIA (Sorento) and a VW (GTI). I love them both so there's no brand bias here in a choice between the Arteon and the Stinger. I've driven both vehicles and if I were choosing between the turbo4 engines in each, I'd opt for the Arteon without question. Comparing the Arteon to the higher spec 3.3L V6 in the Stinger and the choice is more difficult. I think Mr. Biermann and his colleagues at Hyundai/KIA have done a remarkable job of building an American-ized version of a European GT sedan at a reasonable price. But I think the differences between the Stinger and the Arteon highlight the different perspectives of Americans (both north and south of the Canadian border) and Europeans in terms of what "performance" means.
There's a reason that Americans invented drag racing while Europeans invented rallies. Road racing in America often means circling high banked ovals in stadiums while Europeans think of road racing on public roads or tracks designed to emulate them. For Americans "performance" often begins and ends with straight line acceleration to 60 mph and quarter mile times. For Europeans "performance" in a GT sedan often means traveling in comfort at 100 mph+ on superbly maintained highways or threading roads often laid down originally by the Romans two millennia ago.
VW has a history of trying to interest Americans in the Euro-spec vehicles with almost no success. Americans want larger, cheaper VW's than Europeans. The Arteon represents still another effort along that line. (One exception for the Arteon. The North American version uses a conventional 8 speed transmission while the Euro version has a DCT.) I have no doubt that more Americans will choose the Stinger over the VW. But for those who value a true European GT driving experience with accommodations for four the Arteon outpoints the Stinger.
I agree with most of what you said but this car miserably fails the sales even in Europe. This is unlike Golf R a big car for 4motion to handle. If they threw the same awd in Toureg could be amazing but yeah thats basically stepping on Audi’s toes. And the haldex based 4wds suck so bad. Its no brainer why people go for stinger in USA. Its a real GT unlike this piece of crap. In my opinion this is just another niche model, which will be discontinued just like scirocco.
Beautifully said! Chose the Arteon. APR st1 tune on the way.
@@SavasMD 4MOTION does beautifully. People who call it a piece of crap are clueless about cars. It's a wonderful and high quality car!
@@maximzaslavskiy5980 exactly and that gets you to 360 hp AND you're in a german car made in germany that handles really well.
@@SavasMD You are correct. Another reason this car may fail: VW really doesn't market this car.
As a Florida driver: Ontario plates equal ultra old snowbird who probably shouldn't still be on the road. No one can make it cool.
lmaooo true!
Saxybeast 89 i’m also in tampa
Saxybeast 89 LMFAO I don’t blame you, Us Ontario Drivers fucking suck 😂😂 I live in Brampton Ontario. The highest car insurance rates in NA for accidents and insurance fraud
Completely agree. Seeing Ontario plates in front of me means I'm in for a bad time.
Hashbrowniepie I live in Ontario and I approve of this statement. Everyone’s grandparents love to live in Florida 😂
This car is much prettier than a Stinger, in my humble opinion. And I would argue that it is perfectly appropriate for 99% of the real-world driving that people do. If you want to be a menace to other drivers, get a GTI or a Golf R. Huge kudos go to Volkswagen for not just making another SUV. The only thing that would make these genuinely better would be to actually have them at the VW dealerships. It's 2023 now, and you still can't find them.
Basicly a nex gen Pasat CC
Put an APR tune on it and done! VWs 2.0T REALLY wakes up with a simple tune. Beautiful car!
8:18 Yuri shakes the whole car by hitting his elbow on the armrest, leaving Jakub shook
I have virtually the same car in the UK but the big differences I notice are, I have launch control, a heads up display, a larger infotainment, dynaudio speaker system and of course a dual clutch gearbox. Seems we get a better version.
Saw a black one in person the other day, must admit it looked pretty sleek...
The Straight Pipes, making Ontario plates cool one show at a time, hope ya have a great holiday and take some time to relax, your pace is very very fast right now and the proof is in the puding, well done.
Slow yes, but APR exists
~330tq ~325hp to the wheels while still keeping a powetrain warranty through apr+. Perfect amount of power for the arteon if you ask me.
luckygodzilla95 what about a stage 2?
I have stage 2 they used my car for the research and development got all the good stuff 387 hp and 409 lb torque. The car is awesome very pleased and still get good gas mileage.
Kenneth Sackrider what kinda gas mileage would that be? Because I know the Passat with the big 280hp petrol engine gets really bad mileage so I can’t image a stage 2 tuned version being better.
Erik S. I mostly travel the highway I’ve been averaging 28 highway and 24 city.
It has a launch control. Go to sport mode, then car -> settings -> turn off traction control -> hold the brake pedal and press accelerator. The you will see "Launch control program activated" -> release the break. There you have it.
This car got discontinued
@@TheStraightPipes this does not change the fact that it has launch control. 😉
Ontario plates: cool 👍
Front plates: not cool 👎
When I lived out in BC it was one of the things I missed the most about Ontario 😂
Dude BC plates are the coolest in Canada. "Beautiful British Columbia"
Reg customized settings: Skoda Superb L&K. 280 HP, Haledex-5 all wheel hang on system. HAS launch control: 0-100 km/h: 5,8 seconds. Love the all wheel-drive with that motor and the 6 (!)-Drive dual clutch. Always switch between ‚comfort‘ and custom: everything on ‚sport‘ except the transmission.
Never underestimate Yuri’s elbow. Never
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Got one my self at a great price the 2021 SE Trim. I came from a jetta 2019. I’m loving the Arteon the ride, the elegant interior, everything. I’m very happy with it.
R-Line won't give any power, it's just for the "R" look ;/
Sorry guys, I do not get your continued hatred of a volume button that turns the little on/off symbol in the middle. ??? In a million years, I would never notice, or be bothered by that. I have that feature in my 2018 Golf, and I’m so obsessed by this issue, that every time someone new is in my car, I show them my volume knob, and ask if it bothers them. Their blank stares tell the story. Just had to let you know, love your channel, and your chemistry with each other.
Sorry guys Ontario plate not cool... Have you seen Northwest Territories plates?!?.... Freakin Polar Bear shaped! .... Now Those are cool!
This thing is really really sharp in person. Saw one coming the other way yesterday, it turned my head.
I've heard the Arteon has the IS38 Turbo from the golf R... meaning it should react to tuning quite well
Tech from VW here... This is true. But the auto trans will be it's downfall );
Yeah I’ve heard it gains over 100hp at the crank with an ecu tune, downpipe and intercooler
@Богдан Кондратов Having put about 40K miles on a Stage 1 APR tuned MK6 GTI putting it altogether at over 100K miles before trading it for a MK7.5, I'd have to dispute that characterization. So would the other members of the Golf R/GTI owners group here in the Pacific NW.
@@chaseedgren3097 yep, the transmission is only rated to handle a certain amount of torque. Tune at your own risk, or only use that power very intermittently, to reduce trans wear
@@chaseedgren3097 How? Audi A6 with 8 speed is quicker than its DCT brother in Europe.
always on individual in my gti:
engine (soundaktor and throttle response) - normal
steering - sport (more effort)
adaptive lighting - sport (doesn't lag when following curves, not sure why you'd want it any other way)
front diff - sport (locks up earlier)
I bought an arteon after watching this review. Theres SICK deals on them right now bc they arent moving off lots. Kia dealerships in my area havent had any issues moving them, so they didnt want to come down on price really.
I have one with a stage 1 APR tune so it’s basically a bigger golf R with lane centering and a bunch of other European options activated thru VCDS. Also front plate stays in the trunk.
Yeah you made Ontario plates cooler and more popular
Yay
How do you not have a million subscribers yet? I'm not satisfied with a review until I watch @TheStraightPipes. THE BEST AUTO REVIEWERS ON UA-cam!!
Merry Christmas, guys!
Merry Christmas!
Not sure why everyone is so hyped about the Arteon. Sure, it looks great and is the nicest car from VW (perhaps excluding Touareg) but it costs the same as an Audi A5, which is better in every way (design arguable), especially interior quality.
@@chadhanson4369 you know volkswagen owns audi lol
With similar kit it's actually quite a bit cheaper than Audi. It has better warranty and VW dealers, altough not cheap, are cheaper as well.
Sit in the back of A5 and you'll understand the appeal of the Arteon. By the A5 and your kids will hate you for life :)
@@Dirk_Diggler If you need the space, get a Passat.
I personally like the A5 sportback in comparison, but they seem to be going for $10-15k more for only slightly nicer trim levels. Also much less back seat room if that matters.
I have it for almost two years and still people are stopping to say how beautiful it is, and it really is something special. Btw, you can set the Lane keep assist to adaptive mode which is lane centering.
Arteon all the way. Probably stage 1 tune it right away with all the savings from the difference between the A7, to bring it to or above Kia stinger butt specs. I'm a car shaped cat lover, wagons for life. I'm with you. If sportbacks keep the sedans alive, I'm okay with that world.
Frank Stallone if you mod engine you void the warranty
@@chocolatewheelchair lots of tuners will match the factory warranty
Pyrofan97 what do you mean bro?
chocolatewheelchair not if you go with APR. Dealer installed and they honor the warranty.
@@chocolatewheelchair The "void the warranty" comment is made often but it represents a misunderstanding of reality. In fact, the warranty is voided only if a modification can be shown to directly result in a component failure. That won't necessarily result in a fix under warranty but numerous court cases support that interpretation. Furthermore, many VW dealers (including mine) actually offer tuning services and honor warranty claims without question. Finally, tuning companies such as APR offer low cost warranties that mimic the full factory warranty protection.
I like this car and anything from Canada is cool with me. So you all made that plate cool. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this car.
Didn’t take long to edit and post. Hope I can be seen in the background.
Yes I have an XC60 and I put the air suspension in polestar mode with the steering but leave the engine in eco for normal driving.
Just this week, VW offered me to swap my GT (Passat) for an Arteon. Unfortunately, even with all the promos and discount, I’m too early in my lease for it to be worth it (penalty too high and nullifies part of promos).
I can tell though, they’re having trouble selling this car, probably for the reasons you mentioned (price, engine power)...
Might swap, but at the right price only...
RichardG22 lol don’t get another vw
Богдан Кондратов true, only the AWD would be a nice upgrade.... my GT has 0 grip on snow due to its large tires... my fault, should have downsized. Live and learn right.
ΛCE - need more 💰 💵 💰 😂
ΛCE - the R is my dream car... did consider it but trunk space limited. Having kids complicate things 😆
Just wanna say your channel is the best lol I been watching your vids for a couple of months now and every video is informative, comedic and entertaining without trying to hard, and you never leave an absence in dialogue. You guys always know what to say, at all times. You speak on every single detail and i don't recall any other review channel doing that. Everything you guys do is spot on and i used to watch throttle house, which are awesome guys, and i love their channel too, but i found myself watching your channel more now. And less theirs. But i still love their channel too. I just like yours more now lol.
With that said, please do a dodge charger scat pack!! Only because i'm getting on in spring so i kinda wanna see your review on it.
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GT Stinger for sure, happy it’s my daily
I agree
How’s the gas mileage
@@MrBrightSide784 Atrocious, but worth it. The G70 I had as a tester averaged about 15mpg...
Mine too, I love it.
@hitek9wittafulclip LOL good one
It has Launch Control - set ESP to Sport or Off, gearbox in Sport.
It does not
TheStraightPipes So it’s probably region related. Arteon’s in Europe have Launch Control.
That would be a correct statement
Same hp as a 2012 avalon, nice
And much more torque and much quicker acceleration.
@BrianIt doesn't, what it does have in Europe is DSG which is much quicker, if not brutal.
Brian affordability, speed, and luxuriousness. Pick two
@@Brian-jv8iy its an NA V6 common sense dictates NA V6 over turbo 4
Please review the 2022 model! It has 300hp and DCT! Would love to know your take on it. More importantly, you'd be one of the first to review. Not many are reviewing it because most think it's the same as previous years, which it isn't.
I reeeeeeeally love the looks of it 🔥
What other lift back cars exist?
-Audi A/S/RS5 & 7
-Kia Stinger
-BMW 4 & 6 series Gran Coupe
-VW Arteon
-Mercedes GT63
Anything else? I really feel this could be the future of sedans, and deservedly so.
I would love to see a arteon r with the 5 cylinder from the RS3
I customize the drive modes of my new Mercedes A 220. The throttle response feels great in comfort mode. The steering feels a little bit heavier in sport. It doesn't make that big of a difference after all because it's not a sports car. But I still like to customize it just to make it feel a bit more personal.
This is a beautiful machine👌🏽Well done VW.👍🏽
The Arteon replaced the Passat CC. Driven a few of them and thing they look absolutely fantastic, especially in black. There is a air slammed one with giant chrome wheels driving around where I live. Looks so cool.
This car needs the engine from the S4/S5, call it the Arteon R (not R line). Sure it would bump up the price (a little), and I might be the only purchaser, but yeah they should do it.
Finally! I've been waiting for this video. I've owned two Volkswagen CC models and test drove a new Arteon. I really like these.
Also, I have customized my VW CC. I made several changes in the settings and also made changes to the LED lights, climate control, ECU, and other features using the OBD eleven plug in and app.....to answer the question in the video 😉
Love my Chili🌶 Red Arteon! Traded in my 2013 BMW X5 and guess what? It serves me just as well. 👌🏾
I always customize a non sport car for how I drive cause it makes the experience so much better for me at least
Ontario plates are ugly to me, I'm from here though so that might change my opinion.
We have the ugliest plates in Canada, We should start a petition for better plates. Doug Ford might just go for it
Otis Tyson Boris They are ugly. Kind regards from Europe.
The Swiss ones are one of the best in Europe. They look fresh. Have a look.
Look it up he already announced he's getting rid of the front plate and changing the design, making them flat and standard 6x12 too.
@@crystalhater2023 I meant the province of Ontario should redesign the plates completely
I once owned a 2006 B6 Passat 2.0T (automatic). Bought it new at the dealer and took it for all scheduled maintenance services. Within the first 6 months, it had transmission issues and air con issues. The issues never stopped. After my 4 yr warranty expired, I was spending $3K/yr avg on repairs. I got rid of it and I will never look back to VW specific line of cars. Their dealerships/service centers in Long Island, New York are horrible and zero commitment to making their customers happy. Nor does VW in the United States. This could be totally different in Europe. I am happy to share details if anyone is interested.
I have two sport sedans, and both I customize all the time. I turn the vents, set the temperature...I even shift all by myself in both of them (manuals).
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I'm leaving in Germany currently and actually I crossed shop those with my current Kia Stinger. I do not regret, feel, design, power, extras and price were the deciding factors. Let me know when you visit Munich, my exhaust is loud 😎
Unfortunately, Ontario front plates are still not cool. It's one thing I like about living in Saskatchewan: no front plates!
Also, are you guys going to be doing an Outback review?
You are nuts I went there for work and its freezing. Nothing good about living there.
@@Mike-wc3jo u get used to it
The custom mode allows you to put the steering in sport mode and ride in the comfort mode.
why don't you compare it to a A5 Sportback?
Alexander Bellingroth and what about bmw 440i or 435i gran coupe?
From a size standpoint, the Arteon is much closer to the class of vehicle the A7 occupies than the A5 or 440 gc.
The best-looking Volkswagen ever made - period. I hope there's more great design like this from Volkswagen for future vehicles
Front plates ruin every single car ever. I hate how they look.
To me, a car without front plates look incomplete, they need a white piece of metal with blue letters to look good, IMO
@@coastaku1954 facts
@Careful_Eugene But when a car is designed with Front Plates in mind, it looks naked
@Careful_Eugene My neighbour has a Challenger and it looks better with one, also, the Challenger is built in Brampton, Ontario, Canada where we have front licence plates
it depends on the location. i think south korea plates blends with it
The Predecessor of the Arteon is the discontinued Passat CC,i would get a 2013 Passat CC,becuse in that year it got facelifted and looked awesome,and you could get it with a 3.6L V6 with 300hp that sounds AWESOME even when stock.And you could get Lane Keep Assist and Adaptive Cruise in that year too,so its not much behind on tech either.
Front plates are never cool😩
I have a non-sports car that I had to customize via OBDII. I have the 2017 Ford Fusion Sport (that you reviewed in a half-assed kinda way... it deserved better guys). Using Forscan with an ODBII connection, you can enable the Lincoln features that allow you to customize the steering and suspension modes independently of the main "sport mode". Now in the summer I keep the suspension and steering in sport mode and it makes the car 1000% better (you should re-do your review with that enabled). In the winter I drop them down to "normal", which is still higher than Ford's default (comfort).
Season’s Greetings Yuri + Jakub...enjoy the holidays w/ur friends + family. 🎄🇨🇦🇺🇸
Merry Christmas
I was about to buy a Jetta GLI when I discovered this car. AWD is a huge selling point for me as is the sport back functionality and killer good looks. I’m buying mine tomorrow having test drove it yesterday. The fact that you guys posted this video on Christmas Eve must be the Car Gods telling me to do it.
How has the car been then?
@@tzsenpai5950 I have 10,600 miles on it now and the car has been perfect, not a single issue. It's good in the snow with the stock all season tires, it's comfortable for four full sized adults, it's smooth and quiet, it's quick, and it's a great road trip car. Recently took it on a 7 hour trip from NNY to Maine and got 540 miles of range per tank on the highway. I like it so much I'm considering getting a 2020 SEL R line if I can get the same deal I got last year.
@@JohnSandovalesq Damnn that's good to hear bro!
Oh, my eyes! The new Sonata looks worse every time I see it. How could he even ask if that looks better than this VW. Not even close.
yeah, only Lexus has uglier front grills than that Sonata...as others noted, looks like a catfish. TOO MUCH GRILL. That Arteon grill is freaking nice, not best right now, but on that side of the fence for sure.
Have a 2018 Tiguan in the family. Can only customise a few things, but I keep sports steering regardless of whatever settings I want because it’s more precise.
the auto in european arteon is a DSG. wondering why they screwed it up again for north america market
Yep
cost and reliability?
VW and Audi of America almost always water down what gets sent to the US; they seem to think North Americans are dumb, lazy idiots who just want cupholders and automatics mostly. VW and Audi of America management should be cleaned out and started over again, it's been a problem for decades.
TheStraightPipes no cause the dsg is so unreliable! North America is not their strongest market so, they are trying to increase their marketshare by giving you guys more reliable tech. Friend of mine owns dsg golf, after the warranty ends he is thinking about selling it.
maybe because u drive so ****in' slowly there…..
those aren't blank buttons, its a design thing, I asked my dealer when I bought my GTI. Different cars have different buttons. They use that same housing for all of them, I agree though it looks tacky.
The price “ain’t” bad at all but c’mon VW, where’s the 6-cylinder or are least breaking 300 horses?! 🤦🏾♂️ Great review as always, guys!
Stage 2 exists. 387 horses for your Ass.
I bought a manual Alltrack due to budget. But I LOVE the Arteon. Owned a manual CC for 6 years.
I drive my 2014 Audi S4 in Individual all the time!!!
What’s your settings
TheStraightPipes
Comfort suspension
Comfort steering
Sport diff
Sport engine/trans
Perfect
The Arteon... hands down my choice. I really like the VW styling language of the present day VW Sedan line up.
They're subtle (though some might call it boring) but timeless.
Yuri's looking like Johnny Depp in winter mode
South Africa gets the Arteon with the Golf R engine spec (306hp). Solid ride for sure. I still chose the RWD Stinger GT.
Isn't it more like a Audi A5 than a A7 ?
APR has a tune that boosts power to 359 hp and 349 lb-ft. With that improvement, I am seriously considering this car.
Jazmine Thomas time voids warranty. What a waste lol
The power figures are a turn off. Maybe if it was right around 310-335, I’d consider but for the price nope.
Find a dealer that also sells APR software. You can get it tuned and still under warranty. 50+HP.
Majority of people dont need more than that tho.
Exactly
It already has almost 270hp lol it’s not meant to be a sports car. The car clearly isn’t for you if you want 300+ hp. The average daily driver is around 140hp.
@@neyland94 I need it or shall I say, want it! LOL
In Singapore our Arteon is 280PS power 350Nm torque and has 7 speed dual clutch
Our front plates will never be cool. The one time I was rooting for Doug lol
I don't know why all the hate for the NA Passat, the SE with the VR6 is a world of difference from the TSI. And I have customized the settings in it as well.
Stinger gt not even a question!
It's pretty hilarious how some even tried to compare it to the stinger gt
They're completely different cars, Stinger is harsh and loud car for twisty roads while Arteon is a quiet luxury highway cruiser.
@@sic22l But they're similarly priced. The arteon doesn't give enough to ask for such a high price tag. Maybe if they put a bigger engine...literally any v6... Maybe it'd be worth it but currently fuck no
One advantage this has over my golf R, is that in the custom drive mode, you can now dial in the DCC. previously you could only choose comfort, normal, and sport/race
A7 is a different snack bracket and my overall fave. But a Stinger GT will beat up this Arteon and take its lunch money every single day. I prefer the Kia's exterior styling, but give the nod to the VW on the interior - which does a pretty good Audi impersonation. But the performance gap is so huge, it's not even a close call. Kia kills this thing.
Roger Pinnock you said it best
I have to say while the stinger is definetly faster, I think this looks just so much better on the out and inside.
Hey the new one gets the Golf R motor! Still a big ol girl but a huge chunk of change savings vs the S5 sportback and way more power than the A4 sportback.
I'll take the AWD Kia Stinger GT2 with 365 HP
Me too, an actual good car and not a mediocre german that's overrated
Or a G80 Sport...
Charlie Brown you mean g70
Charles-David Bérubé G80, is their “mid sized luxury sedan with twin turbo.” Genesis G80
LOL
Custom settings? I like to put everything into sport except the "bounce" level of the suspension if you can or leave the suspension at comfort or normal. Makes the steering a bit heavier, performance better, body roll, etc, while still not feeling like your kidneys will fall out on the ice heaves and potholes.
Yurt looks like he doesn’t give a shit about this car! He looks like “Man, let me go buy an Audi A7 immediately-no haggling!”
Saw a black one at my local vw dealership and was awe struck truly gorgeous design
I could imagine tons of dust building up inside the interior where it looks like the front grille.