Don't waste your money on a GT350R buy a 2019-2020 GT350 instead
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- Today we have a 2019 Mustang Shelby GT350 in Kona Blue. For 2019 the GT350 received some cool upgrades sharing things from both the GT500 and GT350R which leads to the question......is the GT350R worth the extra money?
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Time Codes
0:00- Intro
0:10- Brief History of GT350
2:03- Stats
3:10- GT350R Stats
3:59- 2019-2020 GT350 UPGRADES
5:27- Exterior Walk Around/Features
7:44- Interior Features
10:05- Cold Start
10:13- Sync 3
11:20- Driving Reaction & More Stats
22:34- Final Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
I've always loved that story about the naming of the GT350/500. I heard it told with Carroll himself in attendance at a SAAC banquet in 2005. The following part of the story I quote constantly because it's relevant to so many things in life. He was asked at some point how he could build such amazing cars with such passion and attention to detail and then put in so little effort naming them when other cars of the day had cool exciting names like Thunderbird and so forth. He said "If it's a good car the name doesn't matter and if it's a bad car the name won't save it".
I love that story! And that is sooo damn true.
@@CarsiderationI always liked they GT 500 after Bobby Yowell spanked myGTX 😊
I have a non R GT350. It is a blast to drive and I love it to death. In my mind the standard model is a street car you can take to the track and the R is a track car you can take to the street. Can't go wrong either way.
That is a very good point! I like it.
One of the best "drivers cars" ever made!
I'd have to agree!
Great advice: just got my 2020 GT350R Heritage last month.
Congrats! I’m jealous. That is a thing of beauty!
Get extended warranty your gonna need it
@@circleh5173 I did! On the CF rims too. I doubt that I am going to need it though. This car will be driven 500 miles/year. She is 1 of 20 LOL
@@timmietz What makes it 1 of 20?
@@doingcarthings because he says so lol
You should hear my 350R cold start. I can't hear my neighbors crapping themselves each morning, but I know it's happening...
hahah yes!! I love it. The GT350 and the GT350R have one of the best cold starts ever in my opinion. Especially for a consumer level vehicle. I wish I could have gotten better audio to start this video for those who have never witnessed it in person.
@@Carsideration The resonator-delete on the 350R makes it CRAZY-loud. I sometimes feel sorry for my neighbors (cue sh!t-eating grin)
@@davidvinski643 haha "Ohh so sorry to wake you Chad and Karen. Its 7AM on a Saturday and it is cars and coffee time!" lmao
😂😂
Res delete w/2.75 304 non R and they sound the same.
It's a waste of money NOT to buy a gt350r. For 10-15k more you get something unbelievable, quite unique and possibly even collectable. I'm mean common carbon fiber wheels? Nothing else like it.
I bought my brand new 2019 R for 67k.
Dang!! You got a great deal on that. haha hey....gotta go with some click bait titles every now and then right?
got mine 2 years ago for msrp. Waited 5 years
Man I am so much happier that I got a 19 R over the base. It was my wife that suggested it too because she liked the red calipers lol
Haha you sir have a KEEPER! I still have not seen a R in my area of the country. Congrats on your R though!
I like how u respond to everyone. Shows more about your character than you think.god bless
Thank you very much! Honestly, it has become my favorite part about doing car reviews. I love talking to people and seeing their thoughts and opinions. Stay safe. :)
Great review. Watching this video one year later is great because it has aged like fine wine. Due to all the mark ups and everything, all cars are more expensive but a used GT350 with 4k miles or less don’t go for less than 70k. They’re special cars in my opinion and I believe they’re future classics.
Thanks dude I really appreciate it! I agree 100%. Can't wait to see these cars in 20+ years time still screaming. :)
Great review. I love my 2019 GT350. It's an event every time I take her out.
Thanks for watching! I love the GT350. It was hard not to be biased throughout the whole video but I think any car lover can appreciate them.
The best information about the car. Your presentation was well worth my time.
Thank you! I appreciate you watching. Deff on the longer side but there is a lot to talk about on this vehicle. Haha
Love it beautiful car. I want one so bad, just can't do it yet. But I'm definitely happy for you man. Congrats
Oh...this is not my car haha I wish it was! Just keep saving bro! You'll get there. Pay cash and enjoy it. :)
The best GT350 review…I was sad when the video ended. I’ll buy it if you ever sell…lol..thanks for the great review!
Thank you so much for watching! I really appreciate it. Glad you enjoyed it :)
Just found you and really enjoyed your review man. Subbed for sure. Cant wait to see more
Awesome! Thank you for the sub! I am doing a 2021 Bronco Sport and Chevy Colorado ZR2 this weekend so those reviews should be up in the next two weeks if everything goes according to plan.
Great review. Makes want to go drive mine right now lol. Ford gave the engineers carte blanche in the development of this car and they knocked it out of the park. I was never a huge mustang because I've always been a fan of cars that can handle the turns and not focused on cars that go fast in a straight line. Then this mustang came out ( i know i know, it's a cobra not a mustang lol) and i was in awe of it. The first video i ever seen was when it first came out and Prost (i think that's his name) drove it and reviewed it. It became my dream car, i had to have one. For the next 6yrs i watched and read every thing that was out there about the gt350. In July of 2022 i bought a 2020 with only 3100 miles on it. I was love right away. I drove it for a few months before deleting the resonators just so i could appreciate the difference. It really woke the exhaust up. These cars sound so fuckin good. I really think it's the best looking mustang/cobra ever made. People are always looking at it, giving me a thumbs up, people taking pics of it, asking about it etc. I walked out of petsmart one and a guy and his gf were taking selfies with it and posing with it lol. It looks special and people that know nothing about cars know it's special just by the way it looks. Low, wide, the spoiler and the angry looking front end. So well designed. Sorry so long lol i could talk about cars for hours
Get the JLT foam pieces for behind the front tire. Love em. Stops rocks from going through that opening and down your door. Good video man. Love my '19 also.
This is perfect. I will deff look into this! Thank you!
@Silly String every time I see one in the wild I casually walk by and take peek to see how many rocks are collected. It never fails. And also in the exhaust tips. They collect there too.
I agree, I bought my new 2020 in February of 2021 right before the market went crazy, I even got it below msrp... What a deal! I think what you're really saying by
"Track Focus" is overall balance. And yeah, it feels so great to drive such a finely tuned car. Easy fix on the tramlining: just set the steering to comfort mode when the pavement is rutted. Otherwise, it's actually designed that way to provide the ultimate steering feedback, part of the reason the magazines gave it the edge over the pricey Europeans and why it's so communicative on the track.
You nailed it! Prices are crazzzyy right now. This is my dads car. We put new tires on it, some PZ4s and and the tramlining has stopped. For whatever reason the Sport Cup 2s were just all over the place. Clearly they are a more aggressive tires and better in absolute dry traction but the PZ4s have been a good addition. A lot quieter with road noise and overall comfort. My dad is never going to track it so the PZ4 just fits his driving habits better.
Car is beautiful! Good review
Thank you very much! 👊
Sounds like a beast!
Very very unique sound. Love that Ford went with the flat-plane crank.
Awesome review
Thank you! I appreciate you watching.
I have a 2017 Shelby GT350 and I drove from Philadelphia to New York last year with it. It’s not a bad car for a road trip.
Yeah! Just driving it around town for the time that I had it I did not get the impression that it would be uncomfortable on a long road trip.
Those benchmark cars you mentioned are all faster around a road race track than a GT350R. Don’t take my word for it, every car review publication has posted that fact. The 350 is not designed to set lap times, but give a more enjoyable 4 seat coupe GT car experience.
Oh of course they are all faster in lap times but there is more to cars than just lap times as you stated above. I love the fact that it is even in the discussion with those cars, especially when you consider price points. Also....thanks for watching all the way through, I appreciate that!
We'll, the rear seats are basically for small children and the R doesn't even have them. I agree that the car isn't designed to set lap times, though are any of the "benchmark" cars designed with that in mind? It's a fun car to drive on the streets that is also at home on the track.
Look at the price difference. The fact it's even in the discussion and has the things it has at its price point for a lower production vehicle it's pretty good imo.
Nice video, love my 2017 R
That is awesome! The R is such a good car.
i Like this video bc you tell the history of the car with the review which is neat
Thank you! This was the first video I ever did. I tried my best to give a brief history. Thanks for watching.
One day will be financially able to get a 2019 gt350🙏🏻! Great video!
Heck yeah! Nothing wrong with setting goals like that! I do the same thing. :)
Great advice.... getting my 2020 delivered up here to Northern Ontario after it went to Shelby American and became a Signature Edition... well worth the $9995 seeing they are only doing 100 units per year for the 350 and the 350R... and the engine recalls... I am lucky.. mine was ordered in Nov 2019 and delivered February 2020. December 2019 is when the recall motors were built. Before you buy one, get the VIN and ask a Ford Dealer to look it up... And I can't wait to let her rip up here. Lots of open roads with not a soul around...
That is awesome! Congrats on the SE. That is pretty darn epic!
Hey.You should come down to Niagara Falls next year.Alot of good roads to cruise or to have a bit of fun on. Cars meet up every Sunday.Good turnouts but not too many Shelby's. Cheers. Congrats on your new ride.
What where the engine recalls for? I'm looking at a 2020 right now, only 3,400 miles
Good info man ! Good to know
Thanks dude!! I appreciate you watching.
@@Carsideration Anytime Man!
Very informative vid, I just picked up a 19 GT350R… what a car
Congrats!! Never sell it haha. The R is so cool. Thanks for watching dude I appreciate the feedback!
@@Carsideration does the 2019 Gt350r have auto rev match?
@@lro5159 It does not. I kinda wish they did but when you get the rev match on your own it makes it more satisfying.
Good video. Agree the tramlining is horrible in this car. Also, I installed splash guards on the front otherwise will get crazy rock chips on the back panel. Other than that love the car too. I have a 20 in Kona blue with the white stripes
I never noticed it when I first got in but by the end of the drive I noticed it all the time. But with a smooth road it seems to be no big deal.
Hey.Nice vid.Yeah, I catch myself turning down the radio ALOT lol. I got the Corsa resonator delete double helix, and the radio is turned down a lot more now, especially when down shifting.There's a tunnel that's a good length where I live,and you wanna hear the exhaust?Drive through with windows down. Fun car to drive. Period!
I WISH we had tunnels where I lived so I could have enjoyed that experience haha
Best Video Ive ever seen! Maybe being a bit biased bc I own a GT350. I own a 17 Z06..do a video on it!
THANKS DUDE! I apprecaite the comment. Thanks for watching! Hopefully will get back to some more reviews here soon.
i’m the kid u saw at martins lmao, didn’t even notice this was u, my dad watched this video before buying the gt350. crazy coincidence😂
Dude no way!? That is nuts! 😂 funny we ran into each other again. I’m sure I’ll see you around town. I’ll be looking for that clean red GTI 🤙
Have a 2020 in the same color/trim.. love it!
LOVE IT! I think it is one of the most underrated colors offered. It is low key but in the sun the metal flake pops like crazy.
Seeing a mustang in a video is nothing compare to seing them in real life. Whenever I see a GT350 or any other mustang in real life, I’m always impressed. IDK why. Something about them just catches my attention. Lol.
I love seeing the in person, especially the more limited edition models.
2:15 At least you corrected yourself there.
Also the carbon fiber looks very nice.
Funny how when you are talking you don't notice the mistakes until after you watch the video back after the fact.
Just got a '19 GT350 with the couch seats. I dont have a track anywhere close to me but I have mountain roads, and for me its perfect. The seats hold me actually very well.
Haha “couch seats” I love it. And hey, if you like it and are comfortable…..that’s all that matters!
If I wanted a car for investment purposes and an occasional driver, I'm getting the GT350R. If I want a daily driver, I'm getting a Boss 302 from 2011-2012. If I tracked a lot, I'd get a standard 350. That GT350R is reviewed by some as the last best mustang ever made.
Those are all great options.
hey great video, great editing, beautiful kona 350. everything you said was right on...except the title :-> enjoy man, it's a special car indeed.
Thank you! I really appreciate it. Gotta go with a little "click-bait" title now a days right? haha ;)
I have a 2017 350R and that title got me heated 🔥. lol, you have a beautiful car!
@@benjaminschena728 I felt the same way 😅 I have 19 350R
You can get lighter wheels like I did on my 2017 Gt 350. Dropped 9 pounds per corner and you can feel it in acceleration! I call it my poor mans Gt 350 r . I calculated the weight difference on my Gt 350 at 30 pounds more than the r version with the lighter wheels and seat delete. Good review.
haha that is a great idea. Poor mans GT350R is pretty darn funny.
What wheels did you get?
🐎🏁Hello fellow Michigander! Awesome content on your GT350. Being from the Great Lakes State it’s a pure joy driving a Mustang in its native land. Have you ever noticed it’s still a surprise seeing another S550 on your daily travels. Best selling pony car in a world of SUV’s is like finding a needle in a hay stack.
I LOVE seeing other GT350s in the wild and I feel like I always hear them before I see them.
@@Carsideration excellent observation 🤣. The Mustang has a distinctive sound, unmistakable.
You can buy a rock guard for the front. I also put clear 3m on the lower rear fender.
The owner told me he was going to get a clear bra done before this winter but due to a scheduling conflict, they had to wait until this spring.
The carbon fiber wheels make the R upgrade worth the price which out considering the other upgrades. It's a no brainer to me if you want the best for track. I get it that the standard is still awesome.
If you are getting it to track I agree. Especially if you ordered it with no radio, AC, rear seat delete etc.
Im sure you know by now but when you got into the back seat and said you needed two gands to put the driver seat back.....those leavers on the back of the two front seats allows the seat back rest go forward and put back retaining the set point. Lol so id say dont use the side seat recliner but for fine adjustments. Good video though and thank you
You are spot on. When I filmed this video it was pretty much my first time with it and I’ve since learned a few things. The one thing I still can’t figure out is the auto rev match. In the video I said it didn’t have it, online everywhere it says it does. I have yet to figure it out 😂 I Don’t think it does.
Thanks for watch 🤛🤛
To keep the car from darting check your air pressure if it is too low that makes it dart .I have a 2019 350 I put more air pressure and helped.
That is a valid point! What helped the most was changing tires. The Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s were mostly to blame in my opinion. Changed to a Pirelli PZ4 and have had no issues since. Two different category of tires but that did the trick for sure. In my opinion.
Have you driven a GT500? It's built to go around a track. I went to the GT500 Track Tour and drove one around a track. It was awesome!! Did miss having a stick but man that thing was amazing. Especially when I went for a few laps with a pro after I did my laps.
I have not driven one yet...... BUT I am trying to get my hands on one for this spring. I have seen a few in person and I LOVE that they were built for the track vs a drag strip. I was upset that they did't offer it in a stick at first but I think Ford did make the right choice in going with a DCT. I've been on a few tracks in a M3 and M4 with some pro drivers and it is insane. I can only imagine what the GT500 felt like!
@@Carsideration I think they should have a manual option though. Completely taking the option away is not cool. Alot of people like myself would rather have a manual. I like the control and driver experience much more and a replacement doesn't cost 20k. I imagine it would save you alot on the cost of the car too.
From a driving standpoint, yes it makes sense.
From a limited supply and exclusive standpoint, no.
So the limited supply and exclusivity turn you away from it? To each their own, I don't think you are wrong at all. I personally think it is cool when cars are more 'rare', even everyday cars. But that is just my opinion haha
@@Carsideration no man lol. I’m disagreeing with your title of not wasting money on an R and sticking with a GT350. The R is more exclusive and rare with even more limited supplies than a standard GT350.
@@ManchesterUtdFan Ohhhhh! 🤣🤣 I feel dumb now. Not gonna lie. I did not think this video would get as many views as it has. My thought was to go with a controversial title for my first ever video BUT I see where you are coming from and don't disagree. I just think from a money standpoint/drive standpoint like you said the GT350 is a better 'bang for the buck'. If someone has the money for R I would not disapprove of them going with the R.
@@Carsideration completely agree bro. I am currently doing heavy research on a GT350R in 2022 and baw gahhd the markups are INSANE. The GT350 is definitely my backup but it would have to be a 2019 or 2020. I believe the motors are R motors and can be confirmed via a code right underneath the drive side engine manifold. There’s a QR code and underneath it it will give you some data to confirm the Gen 2 motor and if it uses the same R components. So at least there’s that.
@@ManchesterUtdFan That was the big thing for me as to why I chose the title. The Gen2 motors have more in common with the R and GT500 than the Gen1. I have a Focus RS and I went through the same thing with dealer mark up. I got lucky and called their bluff. December came around and it sat on the floor for a full year, they finally let it go at MSRP but with the chip shortage and supply chain issues, I think it might be a little longer before dealers back away from it. I HATE when any dealer does this. It is my biggest pet peeve haha
There are some differences. I have the 2017 and when you open the trunk it says shelby Cobra on the floor. Doesn't that car have actuators now that pull the doors shut after the first click?
Umm that is a good question. I've never noticed any actuators though. I might have to double check that now.
@@Carsideration I thought that was supposed to be a feature. Click once and car does the rest.
I disagree with you. If you don't have the money or don't want to expend those $12K of difference, it's fine. But you can't tell the GT350R is a waste of money.
1- Sounds louder
2- Carbon Fiber wheels (total cost $24K / $6K each), less weight means less energy to move the wheels.
3- Recaro seats with red accents
4- Carbon Fiber Rear Spoiler (More aggressive)
5- Wider rear wheels, so wider rear tires.
6- Sports Cup 2 tires (Track focused)
7- Bigger front splitter, more downforce.
8- Less production (more value on the market for Rs and Heritage Rs)
9- Pinstripes red and GT350 Badges in red
10- Rear seat delete
The GT350R performs better on the track.
If you want to see how cool looks a GT350R, check this Instagram account: shelby_snakr. (instagram.com/shelby_snakr/) or youtube: ua-cam.com/video/968KEZJThtI/v-deo.html
I LOVE the R...I think it is a super cool car. My point is not everyone is going to have the luxury of having the option to spend an extra 13K so the 2019+ GT350 is a heck of a bargain for what you are getting since they upgraded them and they now share more things with the GT350R than previous years. It will be interesting to see what the Rs value will stay at in the coming years.
@@Carsideration Value? Nah, I’m not worried about it. I’m only looking for a lot of fun. And yes, the 2019+ GT350 regular is pretty good. But, the R is not a waste of money (you said in the title). Anyway, your video is good. Keep it up! 😉
@@SnakrGarage thanks dude! I appreciate it. Drive the hell out of it for all of us! Haha
Everything you said is correct except one problem. There have been GT 350's that have run almost identical times as the GT 350R on the track. You can make the GT 350 sound and look identical to the R for far less than 15K... Not worth it at all . It's not a collector's car anymore because they made enough of them from 2016- 2020..
@@thegeneral8133 Well, I'm assuming you have a GT350 non-R, but I can tell you I drove both, and you can see what I chose. You are talking about modifications, I'm not talking about aftermarket parts. I don't like to modify my cars, my R is fully stock. About those track times, I'm not sure about it. You need both cars in stock, no modifications, and to use the same pilot for testing. Some people have more skills than others. Anyway, in my opinion as a Shelby GT350R owner, I can tell you (if you are reading this and you are thinking about buying one of them) that it worth each cent that it costs. If you have the money, or you can finance it, go for it. You won't regret it.
What mustang do you think is the best for fun and fast mustang gt vs gt350 vs gt350r vs gt500
Ohh that is a hard one. I would probably have to say the GT500. I've driven a GT and obviously a GT350 and the GT350 is way more fun to drive. I think GT350 v GT350R you wouldn't really notice unless you were on a track to feel the advantage of the carbon fiber wheels and the unsprung weight advantage. I haven't driven the new GT500 yet but I would guess it has to be the most fun to drive and of course it is going to be the fastest.
One of the nicest colors on a mustang
I’d have to agree! Especially when it is sunny out.
@@ShadyGrady3 says you I get all kinds of compliments gotta keep it clean chrome rims would look nice on it not saying they will not
Does he not know you can do the cabin temp controls from actual buttons?
Shifter knob feel is horrible, I changed myn and i couldn’t be happier getting rid of the stock one.
What the!! My 2017 doesn't have cool cobras that shoot onto the ground when I unlock it at night! BTW, if you pull the latch on the back of the seat then it flips the seats forward and back without losing your back positioning (bottom side latch). At least it does on my convenience pack seats.
That was an optional add on.....and well worth it in my opinion. The owner loves it he said.
@@Carsideration For sure!
If you’re completely dismissing the 15 to 18’s you’re missing out.
Not dismissing. Just saying the 19s 350 have more in common with the 15-18Rs then the the 15-18 GT350s did.
Yeah missing out on exploding engines
The wheels alone are worth the bump in price from the base to the R!
Hahaha I would agree! The carbon wheels look amazing!
I love this car so much, But i feel like it’s just so similar in terms of performance to the Regular GT in terms of raw speed and power. But i guess it is much more track focused
I agree with you 100%. Depending on someone's situation the GT might be a better choice. I think what makes it special is the engine. It makes such a unique sound and to me, that is worth the price of admission.
@350SHLB they perform pretty similarly interns of speed and acceleration considering the price difference. In terms of track times, Handling, and nuance the 350 kills the gt. But I was refering to the horsepower and acceleration difference.
The 350 has the crazy track performance
The 500 has the crazy track performance and the insane powerr and acceleration aswell so I guess it’s just levels of performance.
@350SHLB also. I really love the car because of its dynamics. I would take it over the 500 or the gr any day
R will hold value wayyyyy better just another thing to consider as past regular 350s are cheaper than a new gt pp2
Ohhh for sure. The R will hold their value really well moving forward. Should be cool to watch.
@@Carsideration I'm banking on it but problem is not sure I'll ever be able to part with the car... unless the engine blows. Already had that happen once to the regular 350, lemoned that car and found an R.
@@mmmtime I'd say you came out on top then! haha yeah this is my dads car and I know for a fact he will never get rid of it. It is just too good of a car to part ways with.
Curious about the argument of the engine differences between the pre ‘19 GT350’s and 350R’s. Ford said there were no differences between them but then with the Gen 2 motor, it said the regular 350’s got the R’s motor and made a big deal about it. Argues the point that prior to ‘19 they WERE different!
I thought the same thing but digging deeper the 19+ 350s shared more 350R and GT500 parts than I thought!
Yup luv my gt350
Heck yeah!! They are awesome cars. So glad Ford decided to go with a unique engine this time around.
Lately I've been perusing YT bcuz I recently learned that 2020 will be the last year for the GT350(R). I really appreciate your feedback buddy (discounting your obvious Shelby fanboy syndrome). I have it too but for BMW's (I currently own an M2 Comp but like a freak'n moron, I got the DCT & really wish I just bought a manual). BMW totally messed up the design for the 2021 M3 & M4 w/ those hideous beaver teeth grills. Thus I'm shopping for a manual canyon carver. I don't really do track days so your GT 350 is intriguing (as long as Ford isn't charging over Msrp). My M2C only has 2800miles & has never spent a night outside of the garage. I broke my back after they closed the gyms & had a major mishap on Mtn bike. So I've been staring at my car in the garage for nearly a year. (if anyone's interested in a DCT M2Comp lmk) I live near Charlotte NC. Anyway, thank you for your thoughts & input on the GT350. My M2C might take u on a track. The M4's look OK but don't handle as well as expected. Peace & bliss to all y'alls!
The M2C is such a good package. Driving that on the track is by far the most fun out of any of the M cars. I was lucky enough to drive all the M vehicles on a track in the same day and was 100% sold on the M2. My buddy in AZ has the M2C in a manual and loves it. The DCT is still fun to drive. I know a lot of people hate on DCT but I like them, especially on a track.
@@Carsideration,yeah I don't mind the DCT but it seems more & more car companies are moving away from manual gearbox. I watch a ton of car vlogs on YT. Cars that I'd NEVER be able to afford but still like to appreciate the insane power & tech in Ferrari, Aston Martin, Koenigsegg, Hennessey's new Venom F5 etc. Chris Harris is one of favorite car guys & he's baffled why Ferrari or Lamborghini doesn't make a lightweight 500-650HP w/ 3 pedals. Porsche is pretty much the only "elite" car company that still offers a manual. The new 992 GT3 looks pretty sick. Way out of my price range but hopefully someday before I die, I'll own a Porsche. That 9k redline is nuts. Did u see the SpeedKore all carbon GT350R? I think it was on Jay Leno's garage. Cool car!
@@scottiecopasetic8315 I think I saw it on instagram but I'm going to look it up right now! I used to think Porsche was blah..but after seeing the RSR in person a few times I fell in love and respect the hell out of Porsche now. Might be my favorite brand if not my favorite deff in my top 3.
Extremely interesting fun fact!!??
Did I say that? Lol or do you have one? 😂
So, question about the 350 seats. My hips and thighs are deceptively wide (I'm tall for a girl). Recaro or not to Recaro is the question?
Also, for reference, I've sat in a gt350 with standard seats, and my thighs were on/next to the bolstering
I’ve yet to sit in the standard seats. The only thing I can compare these Recaro seats to are the Recaro’s in my Focus RS. These are 10x more comfortable. I personally love the Recaro seats (or sport seats in general) too each their own but I think sport seats in sports cars are a must. Not only for esthetics but for when you do spirited drives.
@Carsideration I've owned a variety of sports cars [mustang GT, C7, ZL1, C8 (currently), soon to be GT350]. Only the ZL1 had Recaro seats, so I'm just concerned about not being comfortable in the Recaros. The ZL1's were comfortable and grippy. Though ultimately, it's what the dealer finds 1st 😅😂
Nothing Like it, FORD Mustang
Is it bad if I read this in the "Ford Ranger" voice. If you haven't seen that video look it up. It is so funny.
Traded my 17 350 for a 19 I love the upgraded suspension feels better n the oil consumption is no longer present on my 19 something else I noticed idk if it was just me muy my 17 was a little louder who knows.
That is cool that you can notice the difference in the supsension. How about the Sync 3? Did your 17 have it?
@@Carsideration yes the 17 had it to or was pretty similar
@@Carsideration Ford started sync 3 in 2016.
No. GT350R if you can. Used price for both are within $10-20k. If you try to buy the wheels and the spoiler and the front splitter, you would spend $20k or so new.
With the thicker anti-roll bars and springs, you don’t really need to lower the car. It can put down 1.11g on stock setup.
The GT350R stock does 0-60 in 3.9s vs 4.2s. Mostly because of the tires and the 15 pounds per wheel weight savings.
That and you’ll have a GT350 that will keep value better in the long run.
I've yet to see a R come up for sale that is within 20K of a 350. I'm sure they are out there now but at the time of doing this video they weren't haha
Keep it
If I ever have enough money to buy one I will never sell it haha
at the moment ill just hav to survive with my gt mustang :)
Nothing wrong with that! :) I don't even own a Mustang so I can't even be in the club haha
I’d keep it. I traded my GT pp1 for a Shelby GT350 back in 2018. Unless you really want the motor for the high revs and sound. The car is way more expensive to own. Long story short I ended up letting it go and have two new cars, one daily one weekend car.
i got the R you get almost 30K in carbon fiber......one rim is 6700 with tax wing is 7 k ....its a deal when buying the car
100% when you look a the big picture but not everyone can jump up to the R. It is crazy how light the wheels are in person.
@@Carsideration true...the wheels are amazing...i got a 2017 black with 700 miles on it for 60K..only has 940 on it now.....the car is amazing and i owe few high end cars
@@monde1208 that is awesome to hear! I enjoy reading comments and articles about guys that swore they would never buy a Mustang and couldn't believe they bought a GT350/GT350R and fell in love with it.
@@Carsideration this is my case. I always love the Challenger Hellcat, since 2015 when they came up. I spent a lot of time watching reviews, UA-cam videos, going to dealerships, etc. But few months ago, I watched a video about a GT350R in Kona Blue with White stripes, and man, two months later, it’s in my garage. I felt in love... And I don’t regret anything. Every time I drive it, I felt in more love.
I believe all the Dodge Challengers also have a Tremec manual transmission . Check it out.
I’ll definitely do some reading into it. Thanks!
It is but not as good and compact as the 3160 on the Shelby. The Viper also uses the challenger trans.
I checked the dictionary and "nickeleeish" is indeed NOT a word ;)
hahha so what you are saying is I need to TradeMark it??
I sure hope I can afford one someday
Just keep saving and working hard! I wish I could afford one as well. They are a blast.
The low quality looking interior really takes away from this car in my opinion. This car is all about the driving experience which is great!
When I ordered mine, I picked the B&O audio system, to have great audio quality and believe me, I never use it. The only thing that matters in this car is that exhaust, engine, transmission, track experience, smiles per gallons. Interior quality? Nah! Nobody cares about it. Muscle cars are built to drive, to track, to smile... not to presume how many leather or lights has the interior..
Actually as an owner of a 2017 and now a 2019 I am highly satisfied with the new interior in my car. The panels that you touch and were hard plastic in the '17 are now leather w nice stitching. The B&O sound system is a ton better and is actually pretty good. The carbon dash is badass. All for under $60k. Not a bad proposition if you ask me. The amount of fun to drive this thing is.... I've now done three mtn trips in it where I drive 8hrs each way on the interstate and this thing is great. Totally comfortable inside it.
I would agree. I think the updated interior/options on 2019+ are spot on for their price range.
Interior Takes away from the car lol? Buy a Hyundai.
What kind of interior do you expect a 60-70k dollar car to have that has the performance this car has? The interior is fine people act so ridiculous over interiors these days. They expect 200k dollar car interiors on a 70k performance car.
Agreed about the interior it is the same as an ordinary low coat Ecoboost or any other Mustang with the exception of the Recaros and the steering wheel. “Track focus” is great... but fir the price point I feel Ford should have done better with more trim unique better quality looking interior. But you’re right about the overall look and styling plus the aggressive sound on acceleration! Too bad there’s no auto rev matching for amateur shifters. The much wider and bigger tires have this annoying tramlining. All tires in that size will do that. Great review I’ve subscribed..
I agree 100% the interior could be a lot nicer. I guess it would have been a nice option to have a more luxurious interior.
Thank you! I appreciate it 👊
its 70k for a collectible. The ultimate bargain. Not sure WHAT THE HELL you are talking about at this price point
They have unique gauges and a special shift knob plus the plaque among other unique features.
I grew up in the South. Pleather, leather, vinyl...nope. Not in the summer and cold as hell in the winter.
haha I agree! I lived in the Arizona for college. I'll never forget my first summer touching steering wheels, and the seat belt burning me all the time lol
Hazard lights
haha my first review I ever did and I had a complete brain fart with the hazard lights.
Could this car be daily driver
100% it could be daily driven. I wouldn’t take it in snow though 😂😅
U have to see cars in person everone has different taste and i never drove one it takes more to really get my attention i had so many lost so much i dont trust anyone or anything 😊😢
Haha I don’t disagree. It like G80 M3. Saw the photos online and hated it. Finally saw one in person and I loved it.
Vape Nation
hahaha! Gotta keep the car smelling good at all times right?
Watching an interview with some GT350 Ford designers and they said the 2019/2020 GT350 got some interesting upgrades. They changed the rear wing spoiler with the Gurney Flap for more downforce, tires (cup2), re-tuned the MagneRide system, they closed a little bit the front grille (like in the R models) to avoid front lift, bigger stabilizer bar in the rear, re-tuned the brakes, re-tuned the ABS software to avoid sliding in corners, they used the GT500 block engine (2020 models, not sure in 2019s). So, it's a good idea to buy a 2019/2020 model if you want to save money and get better upgrades? YES... It's a waste of money the R? NO at all.
The R will always be top dog. But yeah the 2019+ got some good upgrades from the R and GT500 in some areas which is pretty cool.
I thought they have auto rev match?
I did too. The 2019+ models are supposed to have it, the previous years did not. BUT, I have driven this specific car many times and I have never encountered it. Maybe it was an option the owner did not order it with? Trying to look online and it says it comes standard but in my few hundred miles of driving this car in the city it seems to not be there? I'm gonna have to go drive it again now haha
The R is way more collectable....regular 350 is very common....My R is worth more now than what I paid in 2018
Never said it wasn’t haha I was talking about bang for the buck.
2017 and 2018 magnaride was not an option but standard.
Yup! I caught that mistake after I uploaded it....dang it! lol
@@Carsideration all good haha all 2017 plus we’re all track pack cars with magnaride and coolers. Some seem to think 2018 was when it started but was 17. Only difference between those years was a few color choices
@@drewsky1967 I like when car mfg update vehicles as the years go along but it makes research that much harder to get 100% right for my videos. The GT350 was the most complicated one so far. haha
If you can find a 65 GT350 for over 100K, call me please, try 500K.
hahah oh I know! I did some really brief research before this video since I figured some history would help. I thought I saw a few for closer to that price but I didn't want to over exaggerate so I aired on the side of caution. But you are 100% correct. Could you image if you bought one back in the day and still had one. Goldmine!
Yes mee too haha I’ll go in with you ! A 66 Shelby maybe ... even still would be a good deal. 65 gt350 most desirable Shelby there is and most valuable
Why is it called a voodoo engine?
That is a great question that I cannot find the answer to. I would guess it is more of a marketing tactic than anything. I mean who wouldn't want a car that has an engine in it called the "Voodoo" haha
@@Carsideration I wouldn't😅. But thanks bro
Name of the Color?
This color is called Kona Blue. One of my favorite colors Ford offered.
I’m looking at a 2020 GT350 but they won’t come off of $70k.
For real!? 70K and they won't budge...I hate dealers like that.
Beautiful car and great review. My only concern is the gt is pretty close in performance but is $20 k cheaper.
Thank you for the feedback! I would love to own one in the future. Yeah, the GT PP2 is a heck of deal! As of right now the Mustang models/trims having something for every budget which is really cool to see.
They dont even feel like the same car. The GT numbers look good on paper, but a 19-20 GT350 would spank it while feeling a hell of a lot better. Everything...the steering, the trans/shifting, the turn-in...the LEGS on the voodoo...the chassis stiffness. A PP2 GT is going to feel like a mustang. The GT350 drives like a vette.
@@thenumber1bobo Valid point! I haven't driven a PP2 yet. The last GT I drove was 2006 haha
I am 100% sure the GT 350 feels much different in that it is unique. In my humble opinion however a gt especially with a PP2 package is very close and Performance and significantly cheaper.
@@gtrance3567 I guess the only thing to do is to review one and find out. I'll add it to my list for this spring!
The R model isn’t worth the extra price
I agree. I think they are amazing and the carbon wheels are great. I just think the 350 is more bang for the buck.
@@Carsideration yeah dude I’m not trying to mess up 20k wheels lol , take the back seats out & do a resonator delete , you basically have a R. I love my gt350 !
@@Unclean_Official They are great cars. I wish I had one! I'm jealous of ya haha
@@Carsideration I’m actually selling mine soon haha
In all honesty from a former 17 owner. These cars should cost 50k new. Build quality and reliability is not up to par with their high price.
I hate that so many purist talk shit about Rev match. For those that haven’t tried Rev match its the absolute shit. After being spoiled and having Rev Match in my car for so long I get bumped out when I jump into a manual car that doesn’t have it.
I agree with you. I think having auto rev match would have been a good feature for the 350 for us normal drivers. I will say though, when you get it, it is very satisfying haha
Is it worth the extra money for an R? Yes. /end
haha while I think the R is a really cool car with some better features..... I think the GT350 is the better buy for "most people". If you can afford a R do it up! Those carbon fiber wheels are awesome.
@@Carsideration Keep in mind that while the latest 350s did receive some improvements, the Rs also received additional tweaks. They both became better cars in 19 and especially 20. Good times!
@@doingcarthings This is very true! Valid point.
It’s called a downshift 😂
Rev-match downshift** lmao jk
Fun fact, most of the gt350 drivers are regular joes who will never see the track. So all this -15lbs, less drag, bla bla bla is meaningless. Most of the "performance" comes from the DRIVER not the car.
hahah I agree 100%. I always give props to people who buy track-focused cars and actually track them because it is so rare I feel like.
2020 cost more cause they put R motor in them
What a 2020 GT350?
I was just saying, the 2019+ GT350s have a lot of parts from the GT350R that the previous years did not which brings up the question of "is the GT350R worth the extra money?"
350 is a gem. 500 is nice not a car though.
I want to get one on the channel to see if it really is a handful to drive.
@@Carsideration Yeah, that would be great! Compare those two. I picked my gt350 last week. One of the very last ones. :D
@@iv3999 Congrats dude! That is awesome.
@@Carsideration Thanks bro. Planning on keeping it stock. Will upgrade air filter when its due for replacement. 3-4 more weeks until the roads clear up. The wait is brutal!! Lol
@@iv3999 hahaha I feel you. I just got my Focus RS out of storage and she is just sitting in the garage waiting for better weather. Maybe this week I'll be able to drive it again haha
Yea settle for a Gen 2 if u don’t want to replace ur motor 🤣
No issues so far 😎👏
@@Carsideration been waiting for a month now for my gen 2 feels so boring without a car
Why "Rev-match"? .... since mid 1960's, most standard/manual shift cars, made in America ... come factory equipped with syncro mesh transmission. Rev-matching is redundant.
Matter of fact, from as early 1956 -1957, only three-on the trucks were still using non-syncro, straight cut gears. Nostalgia is OK, but imitation is useless!
Because it sounds too good not to rev match........haha
@@Carsideration ... I thought the answer would be more along the lines the line of... " 'cause It pisses off the automatic guys?"...
@@JustinAEgan haha I like that answer more. Let's go with that one!
you lost me at 426hp
haha the 526hp graphic correction didn't keep you around until the end?? DANG IT!
@@Carsideration and when I put my carbon fiber ridge wallet in the cup holder it brings the horsepower up to 530 😂🇺🇸
@@chriskociolek1830 Hahaha I was thinking more of 600hp. I was told carbon fiber bits add lots of HP according to the internet.
It still wouldn’t be able to beat my M3 tho. I know it handles better then the 5.0 mustang GT but it’s still long and heavy. If you try to run after me in that 350 I would be able to outrun you because the M3 is lighter, smaller, it has more stopping power and it handles like a dream. If I slam on my brakes and make a quick U turn or weave in and out of traffic, I’d lose that 350 hands down. I would completely vanish.
Which year M3 do you have? I did the BMW driving school in an F80 M3/4 and they both felt great but I enjoyed the M3 more....just something about the four doors I love vs two. Without looking up laps times for tracks. I would guess the M3 would beat the 350 in a dig/street race but on the track, I think the 350 would turn faster laps times....maybe? haha
Carsideration I have a 2018 M3 CS sedan. It’s a 6 speed manual. I love that car. Perfect visibility with the big mirrors. You can see everything. Another thing I don’t like about mustang are those small mirrors. It looks like you can barely see anything in those. And the M3 car feels very light and it’s easy to park.
Carsideration you are right. In a drag race the 350 would win. Mustangs are designed for drag races In the first place anyways. In my opinion, this is where they belong. The mustang reminds me of that one race car that is slow as hell in my Nintendo 64 racing video game. Every time I used that one car, I would lose the race miserably. Lol.
@@vintagetriplex3728 The weird thing about the 350 vs the other mustangs is where the power comes on. I feel like at around 5,200 rpm is where the torque sets in and you can really feel it put you in your seat. Anything before 5,200rpm almost feels like just a normal everyday low horsepower car or like it has turbo lag even though it is naturally aspirated.
no question 5 years from now your BMW will be worth wayyyyyyyyy less then GT350R. Not even close
Hear me out: Be financially irresponsible and buy a 2020 GT350R instead
Hahaha best comment I’ve seen awhile. 😂 I support this 100% now.