Always with Honor - Pyotr Wrangel and the Last Chance to Save Russia from Communism | Polandball
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*💬Bonus Reading: Wrangel and the Muslims Being Bros -* If I had a nickel for every time the Muslims went out of their way to help Wrangel, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.
The first instance was during Wrangel’s flight from the Crimea. Muslim Tatars in the area went out of their way to hide Wrangel from the communists and helped him make his escape. The second instance happened while Wrangel was fighting under Denikin in the Caucasus. A detachment of Circassian Muslim “ancients” met him after praying in a local church and made a big ceremony of offering their sons to fight for Wrangel personally. In return, Wrangel handed over a couple dozen communist prisoners. The ancients slaughtered them pretty much immediately.
The Muslims were so sympathetic to Wrangel and the Whites because they hated the atheist communists who had been committing atrocities in their villages. The Muslim ancients’ village was among these victims.ua-cam.com/users/sgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f970.png
Can we get a video on Grigory Mikhaylovich Semyonov?
@@thomaswatson1739 And Ungern Sternberg, aka The Mad Baron too.
Lenin said; "Muslims of Russia…all you whose mosques and prayer houses have been destroyed, whose beliefs and customs have been trampled upon by the tsars and oppressors of Russia: your beliefs and practices, your national and cultural institutions are forever free and inviolate."
To be saying the Bolsheviks were completely opposed to the muslims is untrue (though you might not be claiming that), there were radical anti religious organizations which were a small part of the revolution, and even disbanded under Stalin.
There were also muslim organizations in comparison.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muskom
My guess is that these people were of the upper class of muslims in the Russian Empire who hated the Bolsheviks for numbers of reason and not only their so called traditionalism going to die for a foreign german dynasty.
Make a video on jozef pilsudski
Hey i got new content for ur next video
From our nation 24th July 1932 Siamese Revolution first attempt to became Democracy their story is interest try it out
Having lived in Russia for 5 years, I can say that Wrangel's statement "Russians are inclined to pass in one moment from complete depression to the most radiant optimism" is still surprisingly accurate.
That's russia in a nutshell
That's people in general.
@@longhairdontcare122 Yep, that's literally almost every person in the world.
Especially people who experienced great strife and repression from their own government.
Stories of russian civil war are so tragic and yet spectacular.
Yea like chinese
@@Ye-lx3rz chinese warlords are batshit insane I love reading about them check out the dog meat general
At least this civil war is not farcical. History repeats, first as tragedy, second as farce.
This story is very personal for me. My great grandpa fought under Wrangel, he reported directly under him and was a part of the evacuation. That's why my family is in Bulgaria today.
Wow. That’s really cool and interesting actually. Thanks for sharing. Peace ✌🏻
Your Great -Grandfather was a hero.
Do you live in a Russian or Bulgarian community? Do you speak Bulgarian or Russian? Both?
Omg broooo
W grandpa
When the Serbian army was asked to help the White movement the vast majority of soldiers mutinied because "Red or white a Russian is still a Russian and a Serb will not kill either."
Small numbers joined both sides.
Regular soldiers mostly joined the Reds because people were getting tired of corruption from the upper classes.
Officers joined the White army because of the memory of the Romanov dynasty.
Aaandddd at the end, in WW2, those same Russians, the commies, ruined Serbia forever
Here in Saint Petersburg we have a street named after a Serbian man who served in the Red Army and became known as a war hero, Oleko (Aleksa) Dundić.
Can you do the sequel of the epilogue about the stories of Russian whites in exile? They have interesting stories on their own worthy of a video in my opinion
and after that we will need the afterword of the epilogue serie
@@tritojean7549 for that do what they think of the post-Soviet Russia ig
Any good books about the exiles you can recommend?
I'm from a family that was exiled by the bolsheviks
Yeah that sounds intresting
The Black Baron rests in Belgrade now, I remember Serb royalist making a small event in his honor
I think he has a memorial in Sremski Karlovci too.
Now to imagine if Wrangel had had his way sooner, and had land reform and discipline implemented sooner.
We can only dream. 😓
He would never do land reform because the aristocrats he fought for would've couped him.
@@lysenkotheory3400 Or Wrangel could have done a p*rge of the Aristocrats maybe? Also, there’s nothing wrong with What If scenarios and speculating on what Wrangel would’ve if somehow he held on to power is interesting.
Also, Wrangel wasn’t a fan of the old Aristocrats.
@@lysenkotheory3400 "Hmmm, lose all my land and my life to the bolsheviks, or go through with a land reform and keep some of it."
@@crusader2112 That could've been possible but why even fight among the whites at that point? He'd have to start a whole new (civil) war.
The minute I heard that the poles made peace with the Soviets i was like "well shit,its all over now"
The white army and the black baron is one of the best songs to come out of the Russian civil war
That song is actually a bolshevik one, it goes on about "From the Taiga to the British seas the red army is above all"
@@stoj_ yeah, i know but it still slaps
@@hrsmp correction on both yours and mine, its strongest of all as Vseh Vsili means stronger than all
It truly is. Just goes to show how much of a beast Wrangel was that he got an entire stanza of the song dedicated to him.
Given what you said the next topic will be, I wonder, do you know that a new biography of Piłsudski (arguably the first propper one written in English) was just published? It's _Jozef Pilsudski: Founding Father of Modern Poland_ by Joshua D. Zimmerman.
He was pissed off to hear Poland made peace with Russia and backstabbed Ukraine
@@scezich6126 Yeah. Comrade Pilsudski should have continued the war so Poland’s workers could be liberated, instead,
@@BifronsCandle we found the 12 year old communist, give it a week and he's fascist
@@BifronsCandle white movement only regonized polish teretories of congressional kingdom so they peace out
Love the song from the end. It translates to:
Black Baron (Wrangel), White Army,
Again prepare for the Tzar's throne.
But from the taiga to the British sea,
the Red Army is the strongest of all.
Yeah I know that song
As a pole I didn't learn in school about Wrangel when we studied the polish bolshevik war. Now I'm kind of dissapointed (if you could call it that) by my ancestors that we wouldn't put an end to the communist menace once and for all, but I guess the polish nation surviving was more important. Also kind of depressing how a man so capable got the job so late
Well, the Poles were tired, war does that. Just one of those things. The leadership of the day would have been derelict in their duty in doing otherwise and losing the country in the process. After so long of being partitioned. Poland in 2022 is forming a new and very close relationship with Ukraine. Maybe it's to make up for 1920 or self-interest or what I like to think helping a neighbor and kin because it's the right thing to do.
Bit them spectacularly in the ass later, though, eh?
Piłsudzki wanted to figth , people and west wanted that dumpster fire to end
@minio minio Yeah, the White Russians were advocating for the destruction of a Polish state entirely reincorporating it into a new Russia. The Soviets, on the other hand, had no real interest in fighting Poland, and if they did, they wouldn't have been subjugated like the White Russians.
@minio minio That was rather naive of him. Always go with the devil you know instead of the devil you don't.
I would love to see about video about the civil war from the Red Army perspective, it seems like the whites do everything right, but still loose. So to see what the Reds did to win the war in the end.
true, the soviets won against all ods, the Song the red army is the strongest seems to be right
Having control of the cities. That's all there was to it.
The Red Army had control of most urban area with most of the Industry.
Meanwhile they also promote a new way of life which is in theory great for the people.
Also Whites were very divided between libertarians and autoritharians, monarchist and republicans.
Let's not even talk about the separatist.
Having the support of workers and peasants, who constituted most of the population, probably helps.
@@desolatortrooper7196 and the Reds(exclusively Bolshevik soviets) in contrast destroyed all internal division with their movement, the Kronstadt Rebellion initially started as a protest against the authoritarian communist government who were beginning to centralize the totalitarian state and suppress free speech(also unpopular requisition measures during the civil war) by the leftist anarchist and libertarian socialist sailors who viewed the dictatorship as undemocratic and just as bad as the Tsar's old reactionary tyranny ended in a violent clash. The unsuspecting sailors believed they could come to a peaceful resolution and were fairly exercising their democratic rights but the Bolsheviks ever ideological purists attacked and declared all of them rebels and enemies of the revolution. Understandably many became disheartened and surrendered but over 1000 fought to the death. In the end a total of 2000 'rebel' lives were unnecessarily wasted from the battle and executions. These ideologically similar men could have had their rage and aggression tactically directed effectively against the common enemy by appeasing lips but would allow for more problems down the line. Perhaps in a strategic sense it was more useful as Lenin and the Communists were able to secure their grip on power unquestionably now. 8000 were confirmed to escape to Finland as political refugees. All those who surrendered that weren't executed were imprisoned, there were so many of them initially that the prisons overflowed. Over time many of their sentences were changed to forced labor in the gulags.
This man is the definition of a giga chad
Also amazing video as always, love your videos
No, tsarist Russia was an abomination.
Mikhail Fruzne btfo him and the cheka shot all his men who kept resisting get fucked
Do you think Poland ever regretted signing a peace deal?
Yes,
Yes it did.
Just 19 years later.
Piłsudski himself, was not a fan of the deal if I recall correctly.
Nah. Both the Reds in the West and Poland were at their breaking point.
@@BifronsCandle But If Poland Helped The Whites They Could Have Won With The New Reforms
@@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 Poland was in no shape to continue the conflict, much less help the whites who were most definitely going to lose. And frankly, a revolution was needed, not reforms for a decrepit, rotten empire.
Wrangal is a man we should all imitate. Integrity, honor and anti-communism.
I agree
Should have been Russias 🇷🇺 savior
Amen!!
No
@@caiolima5016Yes
I am genuinely disappointed nobody has made a movie on the Based Baron
Oh yeah, Based Pyotr Wrangel. 😎👍
God I wish Russia gets a rework in KR
@@dvnk6971 They have some fun paths to play in Kaiserredux, but yeah, Kaiserr*ich Russia is extremely lackluster.
Thank you for sharing this story. Your teams art and structuring of our videos is always commendable! As is your own narration.
Epic! Worthy successor of brains4breakfast
These are words of praise.
Never before have i been offended by something i absolutely agree with
Everyone says that. But I do missed the creator.
This guy is way too biased and political.
@@lysenkotheory3400 🤓
Anyone interested in another book on the Russian Civil War - definitely check out Mikhail Bulgakov's 'White Guard' - as it is centred around the siege of Kiev, and was shunned by Soviets due to the complex, human depiction of White soldiers
It wasn’t shunned by anyone what the hell are you talking about?
@@yumallah Some of his works (Flight, all his works between the years 1922 and 1926, and others) were banned by the Soviet government, and personally by Joseph Stalin, after it was decided by them that they "glorified emigration and White generals"
just look at the wiki page 😅
@@newytrecomends4318 The wiki page is exactly what you SHOULDN'T look at.
i'd love to see you do an in-depth explanation of the prince and Machiavellianism as you did with objectivism.
I think the Russian Civil War and its outcome is one of the greatest tragedies of history.
Not one of the great. The greatest.
Nah it was epic
Forget the "Great Patriotic War" (WW2) were communist rapist and thugs ravaged half of Europe. Modern Russia is a disgrace of the world and for the white russians in general.
To oppressors, yes. To the oppressed, nope. It was one of the greatest things to have had happened. Had the Whites won, you'd see a White terror and purge which would have made the likes of Beria and Yezhov blush. That, on top of the existing famines like the Holodomor still happening past the 40s, since I doubt the Whites could have industrialized as well.
@@BifronsCandle I doubt that would slaughter productive peasants.
My family was made up of Germans living in the Crimea and northern Taurida. Though his regime was short-lived, my family always held the White Army in high regard because of the Black Baron. Had it not been for him, they would not have survived the civil war, as they'd have most likely been the target of the anarchist Black Army.
I think you're the first UA-cam history channel who hasn't potrayed the White movement as a doomed, futile resistance atemp against the mighty red army. I love your series. Keep it up!
@@fishsteakyelk341 yeah. You're probably loving too much communism. Putin was a KGB spy and the USSR shouldn't have been created in the first place. Even if there are other forms of communjsm, but a state owned command economy is doomed to fail. No human being can be equal. You're trying to justify communism and socialism.
@@fishsteakyelk341 do you agree on Balkan Odyssey's anti-capitalist and anti-market sociaist yugonostalgia?
This one is a real banger.
The man himself.
The Baron has arrived. Welcome.
Last real chance to save Russia is the reforms of Peter Stolypin, who I think you would make a good video on. He was a tsarist reformer who looked to make statewide land reforms that actually could ease the factors that fostered Bolshevist sentiment in the country. Sadly, he was assissanated, so we’ll never know :(
kerensky had a chance but the dumbazz chose to continue the war. stolypin was doing good with land reforms but was brutal towards all opposition. they called the noose "stolypin's knots..or stolypin's tie".. also, that idiot czar would've messed things up one way or the other, he always did
The Whites Could Have Won The Civil War If They Made A Land Reform.
@@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025it’s really funny how that’s true.
Stolipin's necktie
the Jews killed him
Yes, i approve this channel, you are a legend
I can't believe a single water maintenance worker's twitter account made this possible
Its amazing to see such quality videos get produced in such a short time
I loved the fact that the Red Army theme is in the Background.
Im hoping that one day a detailed game on the Russian civil war will release
AGEod's Revolution Under Siege is great, captures the political complexity of the civil war very well.
Excellent vid as always, and excited to hear about the Poles in the next. But do ya suppose you might ever talk about the Mercenary Madlad Mitchell Werbell III? He was surprisingly influential on the modern US military, from tactics to hardware.
Finally looking forward for a great video thank you truly thanks
Need me a woman like that damb
I have thought long why I like your videos so much! What is it that sets them apart from other history and or countryball UA-camrs...
It's not the animations (while good they aren't way better then others)
Not the jokes you make/have your countryballs say
I think it is the way you present these very cool stories. They are often niche topics that aren't covered widely but the real important thing to me is your ability to tell these tales both on a personal level, evoking emotions, while also giving a good overview of the situation as a whole and staying objective. They way you use music adds to that as you implement it perfectly to create or support the emotional investment in these stories. And I guess that is the key! You make me actually care about the people in your story, their cause and fight, instead of just hearing about something interesting that happened once, I m invested in the outcome of the story.
Seriously I have my opinions on the Russian civil war. But when I watch a video you do on the communist perspective I m a communist. If you do one like this from the white armies point of view I m a nationalist. And when you tell the tale of the Ukrainian black army both of those can get screwed, independent Ukrainian fighters for the win 😂
It's a great comment. You are absolutely correct, my friend. I can have feelings to many different movements, and members - to any people, especially who was strong and morally good person. Who go in the fight to save people's lives especially
Because people are absolutely much more important, that any abstract ideas or ideals.
I am closer to Bolsheviks and left/communist ideas, but I care about any people, who lived in that time and survived these horrific events.
Sorry for my english, i'm native russian speaker and not so often talks about philosophy on english. Have a good day. I love peoples like you, who have so much feelings to author work and hope people will think about your words more.
1:45 Libertarians and simply rightists tend to throw Ukraine under the bus. To me (you can guess the location) it feels like being an Australian member of the flat earth society: being pretty much dismissed whilst being invested into the cause
In the US it's basically down to the men flooding our land with murderers and our kids with drugs while taking away our means to fight back or even protest siding with you. Oh and just general support for separatism as a concept.
Zel's potential defeat is seen as a kick in the balls to S&S. Your government may not be our enemy, but it's certainly made itself the friend of our enemy.
@@DIEGhostfish And that's why your peers tend to believe the uniquely (by its consistency) treacherous russians than those who battle for freedom at least in form of a national society...
S&S?
This man is amazing
Thank you for recommending this book it is absolutely amazing I am only halfway done with the book but so far it has been so fun that’s really surprising because I don’t really read much but this book is too good not to read ps: Amazing video too
I personally think a video on Grigory semyonov in transbaikal would be nice
RIP Mystery Grove Publishing
great video! really made me think about russian history
Hell Yeah! Been waiting for this episode. Favorite Kasierreich character
very good video
I have to wonder if the interrogator was later "purged" for his Good Deed.
I love the bangers playing in the background. I workout to many of the songs
Could ya cover the story of the other black baron (and the avatar of the mongolian God of War), Baron von Ungern-Sternberg and his Mongolian campaign?
The man who defeated 10 times superior numbers and liberated Mongolia in under 6 months, whose dream it was to unite Asia under a single eurasian empire to liberate the world from the forces of the revolution. I think it would fit perfectly as a conclusion to the Russian civil war, happening right at the end of it in 1921. My personal favorite book on him is probably Beasts, Men, and Gods by Ossendowski, includes quite a lot of philosophical and esoteric stuff which could be interesting, it's basically an autobiography of Ossendowski, a polish doctor who tried to escape the red army by trying to pass through Mongolia, later in the novel encountering Ungern and revealing quite a lot about his story and thoughts. Reads really well too, reminded me a bit of LotR with how it's structured at times. Another book I've seen about him is the Bloody White Baron, but I have yet to finish it.
Great video i love it keep uploading more.
Love your videos man.
Another good video.
Apart from how amazing is this video, I adore the fact that you use the CK2 AGOT mod soundtrack ^^
This is great, i need one about Baron von Ungern-Sternberg
i love these types of videos holy shti
You should do a video on Makhnovia!
Please do Chinese history “1911-1929” 😊
Get you a wife like Wrangel's
God I love these videos with a passion
The Russian Civil War is such an amazing story.
an amazing story of a nation getting killed
@@kirilll7806 tragedies are still stories ya know.
@@kirilll7806 Yes. Tsarist Russia was def a utopia free from literacy, food security and widespread industry.
Im voting for this Ezekiel guy in 2024
Great video
I love this guy
Will you do a video on the betrayal of the whites to Stalin post-war.
This man and these events need a film better yet a full hbo miniseries dedicated to them.
One of my favorite books , always with Honor is :)
I think, Wrangel story have best ending (if u compare with Kolchaks or some others)
We need a hoi4 mod for this
5:14 the issue is that this was never going to happen with anyone except him (or perhaps the moderate socialist whites that kolchak coup'd) in power. it was a fundamental failure of the whites in russia, the incapacity to see the need of these things, the myopic view about "saving russia" but at the same time being unable to see anything of what needed to be done for it. (EDIT: Except fighting of course.) "If only Denikin had implemented this" is on par with "if only the tzar had implemented this". It was just not going to happen.
10:05 the part reminds me sort of about the battle of new carthage during the 2nd punic war. I've heard that something similar happened there. I might be wrong. Correct me if i am.
the feels...
Great russian hero
rest in peace black baron😔
The thumbnail is perfect
Is it worth reading Always with Honor in it's translated versions? How much meaning is lost in the translation from Russian to English?
God speed your excellently
This mans amazing
Its often fascinating to learn about Russia Civil War. Despite the current political situation, I always have deep interesta on Russian history.
Russian Giga Chad, ladies and gentlemen 😁
God bless Wrangel
In your Russian civil war series there was also the Japanese empire involved
As a Russian love both sides rip to all of them
This is a truly incredible content
Can you make a video o out yakut uprising?
Please do more russian civil war videos
can you made a video where you can say if russia was better with or without communism? That will be cool
It really depends on who is in charge after the communists or their opponents win. In both scenarios there is a chance of a madman with no care for civilians and opposing politicians to take power and cause some disaster (a famine perhaps.). Then there is the possibility of a smart reformist like Wrangler to take power and set Russia on a path of prosperity
Russia, hard to say exactly because of the alternatives. But the USSR as a whole definitely would have been better off independent.
The real question is would Russia have been better off without an Authoritarian leader or not.
Without an Authoritarian Leader, I would suspect Russia wouldn't have been able to industrialize and centralize as quickly as it did in our timeline.
However, without one many more people would have lived from 1920-1953.
The problem however is Germany, Russia in both timelines was not ready at all for WW2, however our Industrialized USSR was able to use it's industry to outproduce the Nazis.
If Russia didn't have an Authoritarian Leader, it's industry mightve not have been up to standard or even might be non-existent. The eastern front might have been the same as WW1 with Germany simply taking more and more land while the Russians, albeit with some pushback would eventually fall.
The Soviets were god awful, but WW2 probably might have lasted much longer or even have come to a white peace without the Soviets on the other side taking away valuable troops from Nazi Germany.
@@brutusthebear9050 What do you mean Independent? From who?
i don't think there's even a question there. if the whites won, Russia would rival the US economically as a true superpower. its the same with china.
Can someone send me a link to the beginning song, I can’t seem to find it
just finished Always whit Honor it realy if great book
Now thats a wife
Anyone know what the music at the end of the video is called,
Man I wish this era of Eastern Europe was more documented on
Wrangel was a hero
Didn't need saving. It built this country. Saved my bloodline. And most importantly made us greater than ever before. Respected by wise, and feared by worthless. It made us strong and educated. It got a man to space, and would even to moon. It is the regime for which I am nothing but thankful. Romanovs couldn't beat Kaiser. WW2 Would be a lost cause under those idiots.
Interesting to see a comparison between white ideologies
He should've just tried taking constantinople
THE WHITE ARMY AND THE BLACK BARON
I NEED MOREEEE
Crimea has been taken this way before...
God willing, it will be so again.
Where Mikhail Drozdovsky?
im already reading it :D
He could've single handedly saved the entire nation from... This and that. Shame he didn't manage to do it
Why no mention for Nestor Makhno?
Well, the Makhnovist army captured Perekop and routed Wrangel's army.
He is the based anti anti-semite anachrist who fought for the glory of ukraine? Roght?
I hope one day someone makes a hoi4 mod focused on a peter wrangle white army victory.