Hi mate! You're review is much apreciated. Regarding sounds and so on... a little group of modders were trying to implement sounds from other rally games but was difficult to implement. Now is long I don't hear from them. We need more intrepid modders!! Anyway, I will keep developing it until having all cars done. 🫡 Thanks again.
@RikySim yes, I've tried myself. I'm not positive I'm remembering correctly but I think i was able to change certain pre-existing sounds or switch things around. But I wasn't able to import sounds from other fmod sound sources. Keep up the good work!
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing That sucks, since I felt like that game had the best sounds of the more recent releases. I also thought that it had the best lighting, especially at night and that it got worse from that point on. I had to use reshade at night on WRC 10 just so I could see properly.
I've been playing this game for almost 2 years, and it's without a doubt the best thing I've played in the world of rallying. Result? That he is still playing it even though the EA WRC has come out. I find the handling fascinating, graphically it is correct and the variety of cars and stages is quite big. The most important thing of all for me is that it also has an integrated competitive online mode, which in my opinion works very well (I'm not saying this because I have been champion of Leagues mode 4 times 😅). If you don't have a rally game, I would definitely recommend buying it, since it still has an active community.
@jesusfuentescobo.2002 I've never been able to find a match except when it just came out, I'm happy to hear it's still active maybe I've just been on at the wrong times.
Generations has been my favorite rally sim out of all of them with RBR as a very close second. In terms of performance the game has been perfect for me since launch. Gens will always have a place in my heart.
@@robertrossi9364 I've had a lot of trouble with kyloton games, mostly with graphical performance and setting up the controls for my gear. But I have always wanted to like them. This is bringing me closer to that goal! :)
Finally somebody said it! WRC Geberations is my Fav rally and Driving game by far ever. Is such addictive and immersive. The gameplay is just coming from a driver dreamplace ❤
@Alexneroverona One of the main reasons I stopped playing this game was because I couldn't get my gear to work with the game, but it works again now...lol not sure what I changed. I can't seem to adjust any ffb parameters but I'll take it.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Out then Sterling settings.. weight transfer and general car behaviors are very realistic and most of all.. enjoable and immersive . You should make a direct comparison WRC GENERATIONS Vs Ea Wrc
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Youre righe but... if youre thinking the Experience and years KT racing develop that same "model and game" that is become WrcGenerations EA WRC or Codemaster with such long (first time for them) stages.. still a long way where they can really reach the same stage quality details and realism of Wrc Series from Kt
The fact that it is harder to change direction and the car drives like a coal cart doesn't mean the game is better, on the contrary - it's worse. Have you seen any onboard from wrc? The car reacts immediately and the handling is sharp, especially in rally1. Driving in wrc generations is like sailing a boat, and you jump on bumps in slow motion as if there was no gravity and the car doesn't stick to the ground. I don't know if it's a matter of physics or some input lag, but everything happens too slowly.
Looking at onboards is a one-dimensional reflection of the car's intertia or handling. Nothing of what goes on in the actual modern or older rally cars is violating the basic laws of physics. Games like EA WRC are a mess because they use incorrect and heavily manipulated, coloured/doctored physics to perhaps give you that "appearance" of a realy rally car but what they sacrifice in the process is actual realism. In just about every motorsport, steering is EXTREMELY sensitive and the current state of the gaming industry is just not at the point where it can reliably exploit that aspect without alienating a huge section of the userbase. People are going to be playing on their motion rigs, basic steering+pedal setups, gamepad, keyboard and what have you-- they need to deliver an experience that at least partially caters and works for all. What KT racing have achieved, despite these aforementioned challenges, is an accessible and FUN game that is still very authentic when it comes to delivering a sense of the forces that are acting on a vehicle as zips through those extreme terrains and winding passages. No amount of bells and whistles will compensate for a lack of these basics and I think that's the problem with a lot of the other rally games-- anything after the original Dirt Rally is guilty imo
@ClosedEyeVisual I don't agree fully, you can still change direction pretty quickly in wrc generations and rbr, but all wheel drive cars typically have more understeer in general and I feel like ea wrc is a bit too exaggerated. Again, I don't want to give you the impression I think wrc generations has perfect physics, I don't think it's anywhere near perfect but I feel it's a bit more convincing that ea wrc in some ways. Ea wrc has a lot of strong suits as well and it's a good game too. I just feel both games prioritize playing with a controller too much and affects both negatively for sim racers.
@diesel_dogg I even think the original dirt rally was not as spot on as maybe even Sebastian loeb evo physics-wise. I do agree dirt rally felt more like a passion project and was more impressive back then, than what ea wrc is right now, technologically speaking.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Oh man didn't know you were an SLRE fan-- do you have any content for that because I'd love to check it out too! Played that game soooo much a couple of years back until I moved to WRCG. I'm not the most experienced and due to lack of time now mainly just play casually with a controller so moving between sims is quite hard for me as it takes longer to regain that "feel" for the game but I used to love SLRE. You know what... f-it. Imma download it on my ROG Ally right now cause why not xD
Great take. I have DR2, EAWRC24 and Generations. Very much enjoying Generations at the moment as well as the EA title. For me, without a handbrake, the lack of need for it is a plus :) Also respect from a brit for saying "Puma" and not "Pooma" ;)
@BrianRussell lol I say it like that cause it's more fun like that! ;) And not having to have a handbrake is a plus for most users because many simracers don't have one. I think kyloton was aware of that.
Hey! I watched this like i Told you, the first time i saw you upload this video. More details would be good, and a bit longer video, But i understand your frustration with the uploading of the video. Still fun to watch though, and your way of ending the video is still the best way of ending videos "Ever".
@Spartancat02 That one you originally commented on i had to redo, I was definitely tired of making the same video 4 times lol. Not to mention I had to edit this video 4 separate times. I was definitely less detailed but I think it's important to at least get the info out there into the wild. I'm planning on doing some more wrc generations videos in the near future. Maybe a little series.
@Tulizukka i haven't tried the new rbr update but it looked good! I'm a bit frustrated with myself simracing wise, i took so much time off to try to heal my shoulder issues that I am very rusty and I'm so out of touch with how any games feel. I didn't try assetto corsa surface fx and either I had something set up wrong or it just wasn't doing it for me. I'm happy there is still work being done with assetto corsa and won't write it off completely.
I've tried today. Definitely it is much better than ea wrc and even gravel stages it gets felt quite close to realistic driving which I have 1 hour of expérience in gravel with Fiesta. Rbr could be sometimes so slippery and unexpected behavior on handling in gravel. But in tarmac there is still more grip than it should be. I don't have an experience a tarmac stage however if there is little dust on the road, it might be so slippery with tarmac tires according to real onboard videos.
@iceone8879 good to hear! I have some basic experience as well in my gravel car i built for local racing and wrc generations felt more convincing than EA.
WRC Generations is pretty niche; it gets by-passed by the “sim” community because it’s not a sim, but the stages can be unforgiving, so it’s difficult for a real casual player to pick-up straight away… but what I can say is that this is the only game/sim which genuinely gives me the same level of enjoyment as driving a real rally car on a real stage, and honestly that’s the reason why I do motorsport IRL and play motorsport games/sims; the thrill and enjoyment. When Codemasters got the WRC licence I was so hyped; Dirt Rally 2.0 levels of fun, but with WRC cars… or that’s what I hoped… what we got was nothing like that; toned down “inert” handling and boring stages… and now we don’t even have new rally games from KT racing either… 😢
@richmachin6741 yes...i gave KT so much shit over the years (rightfully so in some cases) but they did some great work in retrospect. After wrc 9 it seemed like they were starting to figure some things out, wrc 10 was going in a decent direction feeling-wise and then generations even closer. This game with mods is getting better than the original. I'm so happy Averymods opened this game up to mod the game engine and physics etc.
One thing I found with Generations, and the Kylotonn WRC series in general, is that there seems to be quite a bit of input lag going on. On dirt and snow you might end up putting this down to the "rally physics", but the input lag is still there on tarmac stages as well, which I find a bit off. Nevertheless I enjoyed my time with it, but DR2.0 is still my preferred rally game.
@slaphead90 i kinda know what you are feeling but I do feel it's appropriate for this game. I am not able to achieve super high fps with this game (around 100-110) and i typically like to have a minimum of 120 so I attribute some of that laggy feeling to that cause when I'm running OBS in the background I can dip to 80fps and that's dangerously close to console framerates. Lol what fps are you getting?
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing I always limit the framerate to 60fps - it's the limit of the monitors that I'm using so there's no point in making my GPU's fans howl doing frames that I can't see. That maybe the reason why I see the lag, but every other driving sim I run at 60fps and don't really experience the same slightly laggy feeling.
@slaphead90 it could be because this game is built for controllers first and sim gear second. Maybe there is some weird double controller situation taking place...or maybe simply poor optimization lol I always said the best thing kyloton could do for the community is "accidentally" leak the game code or something so the community could fix everything.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing I think that's a good theory - controller smoothing being applied to all input devices would cause the kind of lag I feel from the WRC series. As for the code being leaked, well that would be good, but I don't think the interest is there for any major mods to take place - sim rally guys are mostly in one of two camps - the Warthog one (RBR) and the Codemasters one (DR and WRC). The Kylotonn series was always playing a very distant third to these.
@slaphead90 i guarantee if modding stages was possible in this game, it would take over the scene quickly. Just for the simple fact, it's starting out on a more graphically pleasing foot. People have squeezed a ton out of the rbr engine, but think what those same modders could do with a modern game engine. And since it's already a structured rally game it wouldn't need any major work on that front. Games like assetto and beam ng still don't have that rally theme to them so they never really feel like a rally title even if there is enough content there to outshine any true rally game.
Can someone let me know how to run this game smoothly, (Specs i913900k cpu, Rtx 4090) using resolution 4k so much game lag and input lag it’s just so unplayable would love to give it another go.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Well I have 140 hours in WRC G let me tell you something: The last patch to WRC G was Dec. 2022 Game Version: 1.4.25.1. No Idea why you think this game is better then at any point of the last 2 years, WRC G was dropped by its developer KT shortly after release.. All the Bugs from release are still there I wonder how you did not encounter any of them? Stuff thats bugged: Hybrid (sometimes looses load, sometimes goes endlessly), Grip (Termac Wet/Snow mostly), Impact Damage, Collisions (Haybells, Fences just endlessly stick to your car when you break them, every surface is sticky, snow = concrete, no bouncing), Windscreen Reflections, A.I. has random Pace, Weight (everythings too top heavy you can do easy frontflips if you break before jumps!, car just rolls if you push it); aaaaaaaaaaaaand THROTTLE BUG (autoclutch doesnt engage when under 50% Throttle Input) So, yeah. All of this information is publicy available and well known by the playerbase, that plays RBR and WRCG now ;)
best thing about naon wrcs was the surface changes that actually affected the game. unlike in wrc24, theres also like cobblestone in poland and it just isnt any different than the rest of the stage. very disappointing.
Luv to see you do a "how to setup your sim rig controls" with this one, Tried to configure my wheel, pedals, and HB but could not get them setup. Worst console UI ever in a PC game. lol
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing SC2P base, VRS pedals, Oktane seq, Moza HB, and fanatec bmw gt2 V1 rim. I just do not get their button pushing to map these properly.
Problem is the game does not recognize my wheel rim buttons. As soon as I map a key to it, the game freaks out and acts like something is controlling the mouse and I have to reboot the game. I tried mapping within the wheel base selection area. I think it did the same if I selected Controller and tried to map there as well.
Lol...well I do think ea has some great qualities about it. I'd definitely play it more if there were some tweaks to the physics and if it had a more serious damage model. Who knows maybe in the future someone will figure out how to accomplish those things without making it to where you can't play online.
I have both from day one , actually pretty much all the racing games of the past 20 years plus So only good thing about the wrc generations is the graphics (way more sharper than ea wrc) and the physics on the tarmac , much better than ea wrc On gravel /snow the cars are sliding drifting too much , is like driving on wet ice all the time , very unrealistic , the wrc cars are pretty much like f1 cars , they actualy have more grip on snow than a normal car on tarmac , insane , so ea wrc is much more close to reality in grip and tire model on gravel /snow On tarmac the generations is a superior game Sound no competition , generations is a joke So short story long , generation way better textures /graphics /track detail /inside cars details Way better feels on tarmac
@bratosin1 on snow, they are much of the time using studded tires, which would make it around the same grip as dirt from my understanding. I agree with how the game feels on the paved surfaces it feels very close to how my cars feel with decent tires in real life. The graphics definitely are also mostly better, I think the cars look a lot worse graphically in generations, though. Environments are better in generations by far imo!
Ok, because RBR stans are absolutely brick brained... wanna know something that exists in RBR and are absolutely unrealistic and ridiculous... The damage... yes, at high speeds it's realistic but when you go 20kph and towards a rock and the game tells you that your engine is damaged all I can do is laugh cause my real life Opel Corsa can take a harder hit than that and it's a freakin ROAD CAR!!! Not a rally car... in RBR rocks are somehow landmines or nuclear warheads cause you can't have your car touch them even at super low speeds... sorry but compared to that the horrible damage model of EA WRC which is enforced by manufacturers is more enjoyable... cause being overly punishing is way worse than being overly forgiving... why do you punish me for touching a rock at a very very low speed (literally 20kph)? If you make your damage model more punishing and really WAAAAY more punishing than real life then you're a sadist who just wants me to put down the game cause I've had enough of your bullshit... Also, the menus are impossible to navigate... my wheel doesn't work in the menus and my mouse can't click on them so I have to use my keyboard but can't even access some of the things I wanna change like the break bias cause the arrow keys won't let me get to them so I end up needing to find setups online cause of how clunky it is... I also suffered like a moron with the steering not working and being ridiculously understeery only to find out that I need to fix that from the settings as well... RBR is such a pain in the ass that it's not worth it... plus the force feedback is super basic... I cannot feel the tyres at all... the only thing you can feel is the weight of the car shifting, which sure is great but you can't feel the edge of grip of your tyres... it's a floaty mess... I don't know if my direct drive wheel just doesn't mesh up with the game or if it's the game's super old engine that can't give me more but even if it's my wheel's problem, I have a life and a job... I don't need to have a full time job trying to fix this game just to maaaaybe someday actually enjoy it... I worked on it for hours until I said "fuck it... I'm done" cause it was almost midnight by that point and I had to work the next day.... And the most annoying part is that you can't tell which things are issues of the game and which can be fixed... it's absolutely ridiculous... So yeah, it's very legal to compare all rally games to RBR cause they actually don't waste half your lifetime and after that ridiculous amount of time you're not even sure if it's now working properly...
@sportschool3537 i feel your frustration, i have experienced a lot of the same, although I think it's best to be more unforgiving damage-wise. Imo it makes more sense to be strict with damage to encourage better driving. I do agree with rbr being a giant mess mostly, keyboard (almost dos) menu navigation is pretty brutal in 2024, although you can map the keyboard directional keys to be buttons on your wheel using a key remapping tool. There have been LOOOONG sections in my life where rbr will seem to stop working out of nowhere. Most recently I couldn't shift out of first gear. That was weird...and then one time the physics completely shut off for months and I couldn't figure out what happened, every course felt like glass and the tires would just spin freely...lol I don't blame anyone for not wanting to put up with headaches like that. I do still feel like rbr has the best, most realistic handling for mixed surface racing but sometimes (a lot of times) i wish serious development would start on more modern games. That's why I have been shifting my focus toward BeamNG and WRC Generations. EA WRC is still too new to begin trying to pick it apart, who knows, if someone does figure out how to mod stuff significant stuff into the game EA might force updates to block it... That wouldn't happen with WRC Generations or BeamNG. Btw beamng and Generations has proved to be a mess in a lot of ways, too but because they are more modern, I am willing to be a bit more optimistic about them. I played rbr for years, and have supported that specific community for years so I hope the people that truly know me and my goals will understand why I want something newer.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing no, but there is no stage degradation, car sounds awful, no championship mode, I can't start a championship in the WRC. Tarmac is cool but gravel is also bad. WRC 9 and 10 were alright but that's it.
La física de este videojuego no es para nada realista, basta con ver onboards de wrc real y notar que en los coches reales puedes cambiar la dirección del vehiculo de izquierda a derecha de una manera muy rapida incluso en espacios sumamente reducidos, poner el coche de trompa en una curva y luego volver a du posición natural en un santiamen. En wrc generations es todo muy pesado, los coches parecen barcos a la hora de girar hacia uno u otro lado, ni hablar al momento de tomar una curva, parece un fuc## bote sobre el mar. En fin, no es nada realista, que el juego tenga un sistema de físicas que exige y provoca que reduzcas velocidad no significa que sea una experiencia realista, al contrario, es una mierd4
I don't agree, you can throw the cars around in generations, especially in the rally 1 cars. I think you are referring to when you are braking and digging the nose in to gain more traction on the turning wheels. You can do that in this game.
Hi mate!
You're review is much apreciated.
Regarding sounds and so on... a little group of modders were trying to implement sounds from other rally games but was difficult to implement. Now is long I don't hear from them. We need more intrepid modders!!
Anyway, I will keep developing it until having all cars done. 🫡
Thanks again.
@RikySim yes, I've tried myself. I'm not positive I'm remembering correctly but I think i was able to change certain pre-existing sounds or switch things around. But I wasn't able to import sounds from other fmod sound sources. Keep up the good work!
Hey riky 😂 we tried but generations had some stupid way of doing things. No matter what we tried, the game just rejected our efforts.
Would it be possible to use sounds from WRC 8, since that game had better sounds than this one? Or is that not possible and I'm just being dumb?
@usefulidiot21 no, i have tried. Even fmod people haven't been able to for whatever reasons... :(
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing That sucks, since I felt like that game had the best sounds of the more recent releases. I also thought that it had the best lighting, especially at night and that it got worse from that point on. I had to use reshade at night on WRC 10 just so I could see properly.
I feel your frustrations, fellow. I've been dealing with the same issues!
Me too!!!
I've been playing this game for almost 2 years, and it's without a doubt the best thing I've played in the world of rallying. Result? That he is still playing it even though the EA WRC has come out.
I find the handling fascinating, graphically it is correct and the variety of cars and stages is quite big. The most important thing of all for me is that it also has an integrated competitive online mode, which in my opinion works very well (I'm not saying this because I have been champion of Leagues mode 4 times 😅).
If you don't have a rally game, I would definitely recommend buying it, since it still has an active community.
@jesusfuentescobo.2002 I've never been able to find a match except when it just came out, I'm happy to hear it's still active maybe I've just been on at the wrong times.
Generations has been my favorite rally sim out of all of them with RBR as a very close second.
In terms of performance the game has been perfect for me since launch. Gens will always have a place in my heart.
@@robertrossi9364 I've had a lot of trouble with kyloton games, mostly with graphical performance and setting up the controls for my gear. But I have always wanted to like them. This is bringing me closer to that goal! :)
Agreed. I recommend for any rallyheads out there, look up "theflyby"
Finally somebody said it!
WRC Geberations is my Fav rally and Driving game by far ever.
Is such addictive and immersive.
The gameplay is just coming from a driver dreamplace ❤
@Alexneroverona One of the main reasons I stopped playing this game was because I couldn't get my gear to work with the game, but it works again now...lol not sure what I changed. I can't seem to adjust any ffb parameters but I'll take it.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Out then Sterling settings.. weight transfer and general car behaviors are very realistic and most of all.. enjoable and immersive . You should make a direct comparison WRC GENERATIONS Vs Ea Wrc
@Alexneroverona I might in the future, i feel like it has been enough time for EA to make adjustments to where it would be a fair comparison.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Youre righe but... if youre thinking the Experience and years KT racing develop that same "model and game" that is become WrcGenerations EA WRC or Codemaster with such long (first time for them) stages.. still a long way where they can really reach the same stage quality details and realism of Wrc Series from Kt
I was going to sleep, but i got notification about new video 😅
Much appreciated! It was a huge ordeal trying to get this video up lol
The fact that it is harder to change direction and the car drives like a coal cart doesn't mean the game is better, on the contrary - it's worse. Have you seen any onboard from wrc? The car reacts immediately and the handling is sharp, especially in rally1. Driving in wrc generations is like sailing a boat, and you jump on bumps in slow motion as if there was no gravity and the car doesn't stick to the ground. I don't know if it's a matter of physics or some input lag, but everything happens too slowly.
Looking at onboards is a one-dimensional reflection of the car's intertia or handling. Nothing of what goes on in the actual modern or older rally cars is violating the basic laws of physics. Games like EA WRC are a mess because they use incorrect and heavily manipulated, coloured/doctored physics to perhaps give you that "appearance" of a realy rally car but what they sacrifice in the process is actual realism.
In just about every motorsport, steering is EXTREMELY sensitive and the current state of the gaming industry is just not at the point where it can reliably exploit that aspect without alienating a huge section of the userbase. People are going to be playing on their motion rigs, basic steering+pedal setups, gamepad, keyboard and what have you-- they need to deliver an experience that at least partially caters and works for all.
What KT racing have achieved, despite these aforementioned challenges, is an accessible and FUN game that is still very authentic when it comes to delivering a sense of the forces that are acting on a vehicle as zips through those extreme terrains and winding passages. No amount of bells and whistles will compensate for a lack of these basics and I think that's the problem with a lot of the other rally games-- anything after the original Dirt Rally is guilty imo
@ClosedEyeVisual I don't agree fully, you can still change direction pretty quickly in wrc generations and rbr, but all wheel drive cars typically have more understeer in general and I feel like ea wrc is a bit too exaggerated. Again, I don't want to give you the impression I think wrc generations has perfect physics, I don't think it's anywhere near perfect but I feel it's a bit more convincing that ea wrc in some ways. Ea wrc has a lot of strong suits as well and it's a good game too. I just feel both games prioritize playing with a controller too much and affects both negatively for sim racers.
@diesel_dogg I even think the original dirt rally was not as spot on as maybe even Sebastian loeb evo physics-wise. I do agree dirt rally felt more like a passion project and was more impressive back then, than what ea wrc is right now, technologically speaking.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Oh man didn't know you were an SLRE fan-- do you have any content for that because I'd love to check it out too! Played that game soooo much a couple of years back until I moved to WRCG. I'm not the most experienced and due to lack of time now mainly just play casually with a controller so moving between sims is quite hard for me as it takes longer to regain that "feel" for the game but I used to love SLRE. You know what... f-it. Imma download it on my ROG Ally right now cause why not xD
@diesel_dogg lol I don't think on this channel but my main channel "Douglas Thompson" i did some video content on it.
I'll post the link.
Great take. I have DR2, EAWRC24 and Generations. Very much enjoying Generations at the moment as well as the EA title. For me, without a handbrake, the lack of need for it is a plus :) Also respect from a brit for saying "Puma" and not "Pooma" ;)
@BrianRussell lol I say it like that cause it's more fun like that! ;) And not having to have a handbrake is a plus for most users because many simracers don't have one. I think kyloton was aware of that.
"Who let the dogs out"... Pew-ma!
Lol
I would be very pleased as well if somebody could fix the engine sounds of almost all cars in this game 🙏
I could deal with the engine sounds if it weren't for the super aggressive audio ducking every time the co driver speaks.
Hey!
I watched this like i Told you, the first time i saw you upload this video.
More details would be good, and a bit longer video, But i understand your frustration with the uploading of the video.
Still fun to watch though, and your way of ending the video is still the best way of ending videos "Ever".
@Spartancat02 That one you originally commented on i had to redo, I was definitely tired of making the same video 4 times lol. Not to mention I had to edit this video 4 separate times. I was definitely less detailed but I think it's important to at least get the info out there into the wild. I'm planning on doing some more wrc generations videos in the near future. Maybe a little series.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing A little series would be great.
And from now on your PC will Work perfectly.
@Spartancat02 lol thank you for the blessings!
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Btw, should i buy the game for 12usd on G2A?
@Spartancat02 oh, definitely worth it for that price. There is a lot of enjoyment to be had.
You got it uploaded
Well 300 dollars later and 2 days wasted trying to fix this editing/rendering issue...lol
@@SleepyPantsSimRacingdang that sucks. Sorry to hear.
@SIMRIG412 ya it was mentally taxing. Lol I was cussing up a storm.
Did you already test the new Rally update for Assettp Corsa? Or the RSF RBR update?
@Tulizukka i haven't tried the new rbr update but it looked good! I'm a bit frustrated with myself simracing wise, i took so much time off to try to heal my shoulder issues that I am very rusty and I'm so out of touch with how any games feel. I didn't try assetto corsa surface fx and either I had something set up wrong or it just wasn't doing it for me. I'm happy there is still work being done with assetto corsa and won't write it off completely.
I might have to stop building guitars and try this out...
I've tried today. Definitely it is much better than ea wrc and even gravel stages it gets felt quite close to realistic driving which I have 1 hour of expérience in gravel with Fiesta. Rbr could be sometimes so slippery and unexpected behavior on handling in gravel. But in tarmac there is still more grip than it should be. I don't have an experience a tarmac stage however if there is little dust on the road, it might be so slippery with tarmac tires according to real onboard videos.
@iceone8879 good to hear! I have some basic experience as well in my gravel car i built for local racing and wrc generations felt more convincing than EA.
WRC Generations is pretty niche; it gets by-passed by the “sim” community because it’s not a sim, but the stages can be unforgiving, so it’s difficult for a real casual player to pick-up straight away… but what I can say is that this is the only game/sim which genuinely gives me the same level of enjoyment as driving a real rally car on a real stage, and honestly that’s the reason why I do motorsport IRL and play motorsport games/sims; the thrill and enjoyment.
When Codemasters got the WRC licence I was so hyped; Dirt Rally 2.0 levels of fun, but with WRC cars… or that’s what I hoped… what we got was nothing like that; toned down “inert” handling and boring stages… and now we don’t even have new rally games from KT racing either… 😢
@richmachin6741 yes...i gave KT so much shit over the years (rightfully so in some cases) but they did some great work in retrospect. After wrc 9 it seemed like they were starting to figure some things out, wrc 10 was going in a decent direction feeling-wise and then generations even closer. This game with mods is getting better than the original. I'm so happy Averymods opened this game up to mod the game engine and physics etc.
Kt said that in the future they will develop more rally games ❤ Hopefully
@Alexneroverona maybe they could fix generations as a little gift to the community! But really happy to hear that!
One thing I found with Generations, and the Kylotonn WRC series in general, is that there seems to be quite a bit of input lag going on. On dirt and snow you might end up putting this down to the "rally physics", but the input lag is still there on tarmac stages as well, which I find a bit off.
Nevertheless I enjoyed my time with it, but DR2.0 is still my preferred rally game.
@slaphead90 i kinda know what you are feeling but I do feel it's appropriate for this game. I am not able to achieve super high fps with this game (around 100-110) and i typically like to have a minimum of 120 so I attribute some of that laggy feeling to that cause when I'm running OBS in the background I can dip to 80fps and that's dangerously close to console framerates. Lol what fps are you getting?
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing I always limit the framerate to 60fps - it's the limit of the monitors that I'm using so there's no point in making my GPU's fans howl doing frames that I can't see.
That maybe the reason why I see the lag, but every other driving sim I run at 60fps and don't really experience the same slightly laggy feeling.
@slaphead90 it could be because this game is built for controllers first and sim gear second. Maybe there is some weird double controller situation taking place...or maybe simply poor optimization lol
I always said the best thing kyloton could do for the community is "accidentally" leak the game code or something so the community could fix everything.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing I think that's a good theory - controller smoothing being applied to all input devices would cause the kind of lag I feel from the WRC series.
As for the code being leaked, well that would be good, but I don't think the interest is there for any major mods to take place - sim rally guys are mostly in one of two camps - the Warthog one (RBR) and the Codemasters one (DR and WRC). The Kylotonn series was always playing a very distant third to these.
@slaphead90 i guarantee if modding stages was possible in this game, it would take over the scene quickly. Just for the simple fact, it's starting out on a more graphically pleasing foot. People have squeezed a ton out of the rbr engine, but think what those same modders could do with a modern game engine. And since it's already a structured rally game it wouldn't need any major work on that front. Games like assetto and beam ng still don't have that rally theme to them so they never really feel like a rally title even if there is enough content there to outshine any true rally game.
Try to turn up the sensitivity in the accelerator menu, to about 2.5, it basically gets rid of the throttle issue
@FASTPACE.RACING I think i have tried all combinations but it always feels a little strange.
On controller is like i'm driving a tank on ice. the car feels very heavy
@cs84dj57 i would imagine the cars would feel very difficult to drive with a controller. Definitely intended to play this mod with a wheel setup.
i think if the default setups were better, more people would like it. still like this game for the good stage design.
@meljer4838 I agree and yes the stages are easily the best thing about the game.
Can someone let me know how to run this game smoothly, (Specs i913900k cpu, Rtx 4090) using resolution 4k so much game lag and input lag it’s just so unplayable would love to give it another go.
@@chrisbaggieboy5656 it's impossible lol
"You can hold a drift better than..." Fails to hold drift xD
@@wendelinspegel2842 lol I just meant it felt more possible.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Well I have 140 hours in WRC G let me tell you something: The last patch to WRC G was Dec. 2022 Game Version: 1.4.25.1. No Idea why you think this game is better then at any point of the last 2 years, WRC G was dropped by its developer KT shortly after release.. All the Bugs from release are still there I wonder how you did not encounter any of them?
Stuff thats bugged:
Hybrid (sometimes looses load, sometimes goes endlessly), Grip (Termac Wet/Snow mostly), Impact Damage, Collisions (Haybells, Fences just endlessly stick to your car when you break them, every surface is sticky, snow = concrete, no bouncing), Windscreen Reflections, A.I. has random Pace, Weight (everythings too top heavy you can do easy frontflips if you break before jumps!, car just rolls if you push it); aaaaaaaaaaaaand THROTTLE BUG (autoclutch doesnt engage when under 50% Throttle Input)
So, yeah. All of this information is publicy available and well known by the playerbase, that plays RBR and WRCG now ;)
hahahaha
This is about the physics tweaks by @RikySim lol it's not about the base game.
Wish someone could mod it to work in VR. Cant go back to flat screen.
@simonoregan4744 i mean you can kinda get it to work but it's janky.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Really. How can I go about doing that ?
@simonoregan4744 I think its a paid app but I know it's possible. Check this website out and see if it's what you're looking for. www.vorpx.com/
best thing about naon wrcs was the surface changes that actually affected the game. unlike in wrc24, theres also like cobblestone in poland and it just isnt any different than the rest of the stage. very disappointing.
@@alles_Freaks you mean in the ffb? I recall feeling a difference in traction on the cobbles.
Luv to see you do a "how to setup your sim rig controls" with this one, Tried to configure my wheel, pedals, and HB but could not get them setup. Worst console UI ever in a PC game. lol
@labpong7562 100 percent! What gear for you run?
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing SC2P base, VRS pedals, Oktane seq, Moza HB, and fanatec bmw gt2 V1 rim. I just do not get their button pushing to map these properly.
@labpong7562 i remember I had to delete everything except for the "keyboard" and then only map everything for that including your sim gear.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing I will try that and see if I can get through it with no issues. Thanks for the tip.
Problem is the game does not recognize my wheel rim buttons. As soon as I map a key to it, the game freaks out and acts like something is controlling the mouse and I have to reboot the game. I tried mapping within the wheel base selection area. I think it did the same if I selected Controller and tried to map there as well.
Nah m8, nothing beats RBR, it's like the BeamNG of rally sims
@@Sithhy I think beamng is becoming the beamng of rally sims! Lol
"It feels better than EA WRC" what rally game doesn't feel better than that game? 😂. Thanks for the updates btw, they are appreciated.
Lol...well I do think ea has some great qualities about it. I'd definitely play it more if there were some tweaks to the physics and if it had a more serious damage model. Who knows maybe in the future someone will figure out how to accomplish those things without making it to where you can't play online.
I have both from day one , actually pretty much all the racing games of the past 20 years plus
So only good thing about the wrc generations is the graphics (way more sharper than ea wrc) and the physics on the tarmac , much better than ea wrc
On gravel /snow the cars are sliding drifting too much , is like driving on wet ice all the time , very unrealistic , the wrc cars are pretty much like f1 cars , they actualy have more grip on snow than a normal car on tarmac , insane , so ea wrc is much more close to reality in grip and tire model on gravel /snow
On tarmac the generations is a superior game
Sound no competition , generations is a joke
So short story long , generation way better textures /graphics /track detail /inside cars details
Way better feels on tarmac
@bratosin1 on snow, they are much of the time using studded tires, which would make it around the same grip as dirt from my understanding.
I agree with how the game feels on the paved surfaces it feels very close to how my cars feel with decent tires in real life.
The graphics definitely are also mostly better, I think the cars look a lot worse graphically in generations, though. Environments are better in generations by far imo!
The graphics are best than any other game, gotta fix the sounds and it would be fine.
Yes some of the sounds are fine but there has got to be a way to rebuild the sound system in this game.
I don't see any graphics in this game as I don't even have a monitor on my rig... So 0/10 for graphics without VR. 🤗
Not even close! EA WRC allows to many error!🤷♂️
@Pepepepino8989 yes, very forgiving!
I think it should be illegal to compare any rally game to rbr.
@@cognitonito2695 lol straight to the slammer I go...
Ok, because RBR stans are absolutely brick brained... wanna know something that exists in RBR and are absolutely unrealistic and ridiculous...
The damage... yes, at high speeds it's realistic but when you go 20kph and towards a rock and the game tells you that your engine is damaged all I can do is laugh cause my real life Opel Corsa can take a harder hit than that and it's a freakin ROAD CAR!!! Not a rally car... in RBR rocks are somehow landmines or nuclear warheads cause you can't have your car touch them even at super low speeds... sorry but compared to that the horrible damage model of EA WRC which is enforced by manufacturers is more enjoyable... cause being overly punishing is way worse than being overly forgiving... why do you punish me for touching a rock at a very very low speed (literally 20kph)? If you make your damage model more punishing and really WAAAAY more punishing than real life then you're a sadist who just wants me to put down the game cause I've had enough of your bullshit...
Also, the menus are impossible to navigate... my wheel doesn't work in the menus and my mouse can't click on them so I have to use my keyboard but can't even access some of the things I wanna change like the break bias cause the arrow keys won't let me get to them so I end up needing to find setups online cause of how clunky it is... I also suffered like a moron with the steering not working and being ridiculously understeery only to find out that I need to fix that from the settings as well...
RBR is such a pain in the ass that it's not worth it... plus the force feedback is super basic... I cannot feel the tyres at all... the only thing you can feel is the weight of the car shifting, which sure is great but you can't feel the edge of grip of your tyres... it's a floaty mess... I don't know if my direct drive wheel just doesn't mesh up with the game or if it's the game's super old engine that can't give me more but even if it's my wheel's problem, I have a life and a job... I don't need to have a full time job trying to fix this game just to maaaaybe someday actually enjoy it... I worked on it for hours until I said "fuck it... I'm done" cause it was almost midnight by that point and I had to work the next day....
And the most annoying part is that you can't tell which things are issues of the game and which can be fixed... it's absolutely ridiculous...
So yeah, it's very legal to compare all rally games to RBR cause they actually don't waste half your lifetime and after that ridiculous amount of time you're not even sure if it's now working properly...
Cause youve never tried WrcGenerations obviously...
@@Alexneroveronahave you tried rbr ngp 7.x ?
@sportschool3537 i feel your frustration, i have experienced a lot of the same, although I think it's best to be more unforgiving damage-wise. Imo it makes more sense to be strict with damage to encourage better driving. I do agree with rbr being a giant mess mostly, keyboard (almost dos) menu navigation is pretty brutal in 2024, although you can map the keyboard directional keys to be buttons on your wheel using a key remapping tool. There have been LOOOONG sections in my life where rbr will seem to stop working out of nowhere. Most recently I couldn't shift out of first gear. That was weird...and then one time the physics completely shut off for months and I couldn't figure out what happened, every course felt like glass and the tires would just spin freely...lol
I don't blame anyone for not wanting to put up with headaches like that. I do still feel like rbr has the best, most realistic handling for mixed surface racing but sometimes (a lot of times) i wish serious development would start on more modern games. That's why I have been shifting my focus toward BeamNG and WRC Generations. EA WRC is still too new to begin trying to pick it apart, who knows, if someone does figure out how to mod stuff significant stuff into the game EA might force updates to block it...
That wouldn't happen with WRC Generations or BeamNG.
Btw beamng and Generations has proved to be a mess in a lot of ways, too but because they are more modern, I am willing to be a bit more optimistic about them.
I played rbr for years, and have supported that specific community for years so I hope the people that truly know me and my goals will understand why I want something newer.
Good joke
@@стриж51 would you like to hear another?
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@@jamesben-mj9sh :)
I can't play this game anymore, the handling is horrible.
@Werferharfer i think it has gotten better but it definitely can still use improvements.
Did you try the physics mods by riky?
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing no, but there is no stage degradation, car sounds awful, no championship mode, I can't start a championship in the WRC. Tarmac is cool but gravel is also bad. WRC 9 and 10 were alright but that's it.
@Werferharfer what do you mean? You mean like for clubs?
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing no, like, offline championship mode, there is none. Only career and you have to start in the lower categories .
La física de este videojuego no es para nada realista, basta con ver onboards de wrc real y notar que en los coches reales puedes cambiar la dirección del vehiculo de izquierda a derecha de una manera muy rapida incluso en espacios sumamente reducidos, poner el coche de trompa en una curva y luego volver a du posición natural en un santiamen.
En wrc generations es todo muy pesado, los coches parecen barcos a la hora de girar hacia uno u otro lado, ni hablar al momento de tomar una curva, parece un fuc## bote sobre el mar.
En fin, no es nada realista, que el juego tenga un sistema de físicas que exige y provoca que reduzcas velocidad no significa que sea una experiencia realista, al contrario, es una mierd4
I don't agree, you can throw the cars around in generations, especially in the rally 1 cars. I think you are referring to when you are braking and digging the nose in to gain more traction on the turning wheels. You can do that in this game.