The MacBook Pro 16-inch is the one you’ve been waiting for

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  • Опубліковано 20 лис 2019
  • Apple fixed the things we wanted it to on the 16-inch MacBook Pro: the keyboard is back to the scissor switches, there are better thermals on the processor, and heck - the Esc key is back! We break everything down in this review.
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  • @TheVerge
    @TheVerge  4 роки тому +423

    Have you been waiting to buy a MacBook Pro?

  • @Borisvua28
    @Borisvua28 3 роки тому +122

    9:08
    "If 2020 is anything like 2019"
    Oh, boy

  • @electrikoptik
    @electrikoptik 4 роки тому +1050

    Damn, I would be salty AF had I bought a MBP in summer 2019.

    • @jsloat5832
      @jsloat5832 4 роки тому +7

      😞

    • @ahsanminhasofficial
      @ahsanminhasofficial 4 роки тому +105

      Ordered a 15 inch 2019 2 days before the announcement, when the 16 inch got announced I drove like I was in a Fast & Furious movie to the apple store and luckily got the order changed without hassle

    • @trumajore7989
      @trumajore7989 4 роки тому +6

      Yeaaaa, but 4 months from now the prices will be down... I’ll get one around then

    • @MMMM-vh5wl
      @MMMM-vh5wl 4 роки тому

      Hey

    • @ClaxtonBay123
      @ClaxtonBay123 4 роки тому +14

      @@Pingwinho Meh you should have waited. This has been rumored for a while

  • @shercrox8650
    @shercrox8650 4 роки тому +1041

    Dieter Bohn - By far the best guy on The Verge.

    • @firebomb38
      @firebomb38 4 роки тому +19

      SherCrox I couldn’t agree more! 👌

    • @BleakVision
      @BleakVision 4 роки тому +21

      He's the last normal white dude. Tick tick tick...

    • @nettack
      @nettack 4 роки тому +7

      There was never a discussion. His pedigree is PreCentral.

    • @aminbajrektarevicab
      @aminbajrektarevicab 4 роки тому +38

      If he left the verge, I would happily forget about the verge.

    • @KaisuiSTFC
      @KaisuiSTFC 4 роки тому +13

      Dieter and Becca, my favorite people on The Verge by far.

  • @PashaBean
    @PashaBean 4 роки тому +197

    We bought a 15" a couple weeks before the 16" was announced and thankfully Apple let us return it and buy the 16" model. HUGE improvements!

  • @waynewalkerorg
    @waynewalkerorg 4 роки тому +745

    Damn 2019 was big for Apple

    • @amanagarwal1939
      @amanagarwal1939 4 роки тому +22

      Wonder what you would be saying next year.

    • @LionsinofStraight
      @LionsinofStraight 4 роки тому +50

      I appreciate that Apple finally listens to customers’ complain and admits that they were wrong

    • @taraemsavana6729
      @taraemsavana6729 4 роки тому +2

      @@LionsinofStraight IKR?!! I really love what they done for Airpod pro.

    • @bosenngantor9160
      @bosenngantor9160 4 роки тому +18

      definitely...still not the most innovating, but seriously Apple done a lots of things right this year, for (almost) every products they have

    • @BrawndoQC
      @BrawndoQC 4 роки тому +13

      @A random Human being Innovation is pretty dead nowadays for mobile phones and laptops, it's just improvements at this point and nice to see that's what Apple is now focused on.

  • @TLD
    @TLD 4 роки тому +31

    Thx for the shout dude 💪🏼

  • @mguanipa2
    @mguanipa2 4 роки тому +316

    I'd love to see a 14 inch pro with a GPU, new keyboard, & the same speakers & microphones

    • @cereal1862
      @cereal1862 4 роки тому +28

      The keyboard is coming to the 13/14". But I really want to see a reduce in bezels...like really Apple. A dgpu is certainly interesting, though I'm not expecting it.

    • @allanojeda4629
      @allanojeda4629 4 роки тому +6

      With a better HD camera too no?

    • @BrawndoQC
      @BrawndoQC 4 роки тому +5

      Waiting for this one to replace my 2017 15" Macbook Pro.

    • @alxkub
      @alxkub 4 роки тому +11

      I don't need a GPU and other stuff. Just give me a reliable keyboard with the f**ng esc key!

    • @Agent77X
      @Agent77X 4 роки тому

      Rumor is Apple will not just upgrade the keyboard for 13”-14” MBP in 2020. Will probably upgrade lo MBP in 2021-2022 with 2018 Ice Lake Intel mobile CPU!

  • @Sam-xn2ie
    @Sam-xn2ie 4 роки тому +218

    2019 is the year we see why Jony Ive left Apple. He was prioritising form over functionality. But now, glad to see Apple fixing their issues.

    • @TheHumble0ne
      @TheHumble0ne 4 роки тому +3

      how do you explain the $1k monitor stand though

    • @meow.j
      @meow.j 4 роки тому +9

      @@TheHumble0ne that is also in jony ive era

    • @EscapeVelocity11186
      @EscapeVelocity11186 4 роки тому +20

      There's no way Jony Ive didn't have a hand in the 16" MBP considering he's only left relatively recently. This may have been the cause of a disagreement that pushed him to leave though.

    • @gyanprakash7445
      @gyanprakash7445 4 роки тому +2

      Bruce Welling Compare that to 1080p Sony referrence monitors and you’ll know why it worth the money

    • @bryjam
      @bryjam 4 роки тому +1

      @@EscapeVelocity11186 Apparently he unofficially left a while back, but it wasn't announced until recently.

  • @toothsayer
    @toothsayer 4 роки тому +175

    "It has a satisfying and fairly quiet... thunk."
    *Slams finger into keyboard*

  • @jameshim526
    @jameshim526 4 роки тому +69

    The whole intro boils down to just saying “Apple FINALLY listened! Wow!” lmao

    • @anthonycbrown1952
      @anthonycbrown1952 4 роки тому +2

      Microsoft has been listening and there Surface keyboards have always been reliable.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 4 роки тому

      Not it all about production line for them...

  • @spetz911
    @spetz911 4 роки тому +2

    Oh my goodness! This video is so good :) You are doing a great job of reviewing. I love the fact that you called this keyboard “the new scissors mechanism”, because it has nothing to do with the old mushy keys.
    Thank you!

  • @LaurenMichelleMD
    @LaurenMichelleMD 4 роки тому +25

    I have been waiting for this one to finally upgrade my trusty mid-2012 MBP. So stoked!

    • @ek071391
      @ek071391 4 роки тому

      Haha, I have a mid-2012 also, heavily upgraded (when you could) it's a freakin beast!

  • @DarkandTwisted
    @DarkandTwisted 4 роки тому +9

    LOVE IT! I'm getting one ASAP!👍

  • @edharkins7697
    @edharkins7697 4 роки тому +2

    Great review, thank you! I intend to upgrade from my 2015 MBP 13 inch. Looking forward to the larger screen, faster processor and those new speakers you like so much.

  • @dnb888
    @dnb888 4 роки тому +2

    I've been waiting for the scissor style keyboard. I am super happy with how this unit turned out cant wait to get one

  • @dongemus
    @dongemus 4 роки тому +682

    Jony Ive leaves and products finally get better 🤔🤔🤔

    • @cunnyman
      @cunnyman 4 роки тому +115

      He prioritizes design, which costed them good and working devices.

    • @raveenbikha
      @raveenbikha 4 роки тому +27

      Don Gemus but still the new MacBook Pro have the same design only thicker

    • @raveenbikha
      @raveenbikha 4 роки тому +4

      Victor Hage btw it’s not bad the design it’s looks very clean

    • @Davidsworldtravels
      @Davidsworldtravels 4 роки тому +48

      These products were being designed for the last couple of years. It's not like they came up with them right as he's leaving the building.

    • @samicenkci5419
      @samicenkci5419 4 роки тому +5

      Soo What MacBooks will bever have oled. It ll have mini led in 2020

  • @sohailmuhammadrafiq1053
    @sohailmuhammadrafiq1053 4 роки тому +41

    A huge F for those who bought their MacBook Pro this Summer 😂

  • @uptown3636
    @uptown3636 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks to the Verge team for such a good review video. I especially appreciate the binaural sound comparisons. Despite their limited utility, it's simply the best a video can do to simulate the experience of hearing it in person.

  • @Tahoza
    @Tahoza 4 роки тому +3

    A 13/14-inch variant of this would be what I was looking for. I'm still running my old 2011 MBP (I did throw in some extra RAM in there which has helped it somewhat) and, besides the touchbar, this seems to be the closest successor to that age of MBP I've seen in a while.

  • @nightryder21
    @nightryder21 4 роки тому +169

    The MacBook Pro 16"... The. MacBook we should have released 3 years ago. Lol

    • @vishalbharadwaj570
      @vishalbharadwaj570 4 роки тому

      My thoughts exactly ..

    • @TheVirtualObserver
      @TheVirtualObserver 4 роки тому

      @@vishalbharadwaj570 True, but people would've been in a rage over them switching over to USB-C even if this was the MBP that was released a few years ago. Now tho everyone's used to the current layout so a lot of the bad mojo they had from before has dissipated.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 4 роки тому

      that why they made it....

    • @weareallbeingwatched4602
      @weareallbeingwatched4602 4 роки тому

      8 to 10

  • @princetech5701
    @princetech5701 2 роки тому +2

    The Touch Bar is a great feature for the MacBook Pro!

  • @gurkigurkenglas
    @gurkigurkenglas 4 роки тому +10

    With this MBP I will finally upgrade from my mid 2012. And I can do it with a very peaceful mind.

  • @imrankinariwala1760
    @imrankinariwala1760 4 роки тому +2

    Straight on point. Love ur review. No nonsense or overakting lije others. Keep it up man

  • @AsadMaqbool1
    @AsadMaqbool1 4 роки тому +3

    Love your reviews, they keep getting better. You’ve quickly become one of the best reviewers on UA-cam, keep it up!

  • @847mario
    @847mario 4 роки тому +1

    I still got my Mac book 15 with Retina display mid 2012 got me through two degrees. And still running strong. Just need a new battery now.

  • @KOSTNOT
    @KOSTNOT 4 роки тому +2

    I would like to say that I love the Touch Bar, the contextual shortcuts are awesome!

  • @davidlewis1787
    @davidlewis1787 4 роки тому +10

    The guitarist, I was expecting that he would start singing ‘macadaynoo’

  • @takethefirststepsem
    @takethefirststepsem 3 роки тому

    This is an excellent review. I've been debating on getting this one. These are the types of reviews I look for. Thank you.

  • @mattido123
    @mattido123 4 роки тому

    Mine just arrived today. So far I am very pleased. The keyboard is worlds better, and what's not to like about additional screen real estate?

  • @kennycummings7279
    @kennycummings7279 4 роки тому

    To think I just bought a 15" in July...at least I have gotten used to and now like the butterfly keyboard

  • @nicolocapovillatesta
    @nicolocapovillatesta 4 роки тому +1

    Some people are reporting an issue with the 16”MacBook Pro.
    The speakers make a “popping” sound when they stop playing audio (watching a UA-cam video or editing in Final Cut Pro).
    Any thoughts on this? Have you experienced the same problem?
    By the way, great video. Thank you

  • @txprodigy95
    @txprodigy95 4 роки тому

    Still rocking my 2008 aluminum unibody MacBook because it still works well for what I need it to do. I’ve maxed out the ram and changed the battery a few times though.

  • @yankeesfan2726
    @yankeesfan2726 4 роки тому

    fantastic review. thank you!

  • @mortizasthetripleg
    @mortizasthetripleg 4 роки тому +18

    listening to this on my new 16" definitely dont need a headphone to know the difference.

    • @tonyblue5057
      @tonyblue5057 3 роки тому

      Quick question would u say it’s to big for travel. I’m a student I feel like the 13” is to small but I’m sacred the 16” might be to big.

  • @pablomartinez4265
    @pablomartinez4265 4 роки тому

    This review was the most complete so far. Thank you!

  • @ericzhang7820
    @ericzhang7820 4 роки тому

    i love that you felt strongly enough about the speaker quality that you brought out the binaural mics, great review! convinced me to buy one

  • @OzzieDrum
    @OzzieDrum 4 роки тому

    Great review. Really enjoyed it. Thank you!

  • @AngeloPangan
    @AngeloPangan 4 роки тому

    The best 16 inch Macbook Pro review ever and I watched a lot of it. It's not too short or long. It's simple but it covers everything. Excellent job guys!

  • @radicalxedward8047
    @radicalxedward8047 4 роки тому +1

    I’ve been waiting to upgrade my late 2011 MacBook Pro but I’m hesitating now because of the lack of faceID / better webcam which I’m betting will come next.
    I also think a 14” version might be better if they can still put dedicated graphics in it.

  • @thaibinh1909
    @thaibinh1909 4 роки тому

    Listening to the microphone test on the 16" MBP and I am amazed

  • @twiggygarcia5096
    @twiggygarcia5096 4 роки тому +7

    this is going to be my christmas present to myself 😂

  • @leondroidgeeks
    @leondroidgeeks 4 роки тому +1

    I really like the 16" model!!! I am just a bit sad that they didn't manage to keep the old form factor. I mean, the display is just 0.6" bigger and they still had to increase the size of the laptop. So did the bezels even shrink?

  • @KontauriC07
    @KontauriC07 4 роки тому +20

    I've been waiting for this! Now, I'm only waiting for the money to come 😭

  • @bennsalinas
    @bennsalinas 4 роки тому

    I've just upgraded from a 2015 13inch Macbook pro to this. I could have easily done with the new 2020 13 inch MBP but I just wanted a bigger computer. I love Macbooks!

  • @jungminkim7142
    @jungminkim7142 4 роки тому

    STILL HAVE MY MACBOOK PRO 2017 and still kicking. 😁
    Hope you'll have wallpaper for MacBooks too.

  • @johnsr1975
    @johnsr1975 4 роки тому

    Really enjoy your reviews, Dieter. Great stuff

  • @zak-of-all-trades9638
    @zak-of-all-trades9638 4 роки тому

    Since using it with an external display also charges this MacBook, won't it gradually destroy the battery if you leave it constantly connected to a monitor/setup?

  • @amirshayanmoghtaderi5840
    @amirshayanmoghtaderi5840 4 роки тому

    and now after wwdc I'm still waiting for the ARM models..is anyone knows when apple introducing the first 16 inch MacBook pro with ARM chipset ??

  • @gatsbysdead
    @gatsbysdead 4 роки тому +55

    Me in 2018: okay, my 2012 mbp is on deaths door. I’m just gonna assume they’re not gonna fix this and deal with a 2018.
    Me in 2019: definitely not crying.

    • @haysoos123
      @haysoos123 4 роки тому +2

      Lol sorry to hear that. I also have my mid-2012, still in perfect condition. Replaced the battery last year and gambled on waiting another year. Not sure if that makes you feel better ;)

    • @tanmayjeevan
      @tanmayjeevan 4 роки тому +1

      haysoos123 Hey! I’ve been meaning to replace the battery of my 15” mbp 2013, is it worth the replacement? Do you get better battery life?
      I probably will wait for the 14” mbp hopefully sometime next year to upgrade.

    • @ctrlaltdestroy91
      @ctrlaltdestroy91 4 роки тому +2

      @@tanmayjeevan I replaced the battery on my mid-2014 mbp 15" and it's been running smooth ever since. It's definitely something I'd recommend to do if you plan on keeping your mbp for a while.

    • @FelipeVentura
      @FelipeVentura 4 роки тому

      pressing F to pay respects

    • @gatsbysdead
      @gatsbysdead 4 роки тому +3

      Felipe Ventura I tried that but the f key is stuck

  • @AbhinavRaman21
    @AbhinavRaman21 4 роки тому +14

    now imagine Apple releasing Airpower next month. everyone would lose their mind lol

  • @leonheart5328
    @leonheart5328 4 роки тому

    I Just bought it last night. My first MacBook. I was never a MacBook person until this one came out. Love it so far.

  • @DarkandTwisted
    @DarkandTwisted 4 роки тому +28

    I happen to love the touchbar. 🖤

  • @ovidius74
    @ovidius74 4 роки тому

    I loooove the touch bar. I use it a lot during presentations to quickly skip through slides.

  • @masoncusack
    @masoncusack 4 роки тому +11

    Love the commitment to properly demoing the audio. But, the intro to the binaural section creeped me out.

  • @bbvs2476
    @bbvs2476 4 роки тому

    Can anyone tell me if it’s more worth to get a 15’ 2018 entry level MacBook Pro or the new 2020 entry level 13’ MacBook Pro when it comes out?

  • @azamsharp
    @azamsharp 4 роки тому

    I bought it and returned within 14 days. MacBook Pro 16 has some serious heating issues. The FAN turns itself on even if you are browsing the web and doing nothing. The microphone static sound is too loud.

  • @jdenino6022
    @jdenino6022 4 роки тому

    I have a late 2013 13" Macbook pro with the scissor keys and refused to buy one with butterfly keys so yeah I'm considering getting a new one. I do like the magnetized charger though.

  • @therinwhitten
    @therinwhitten 4 роки тому

    I actually like the Touch Bar. Got used to it and missed it when I use another keyboard.

  • @vinamraagarwal5095
    @vinamraagarwal5095 3 роки тому

    Hey, everyone is talking about all the issues the MacBook has managed to solved. I would really like to know your views using this MacBook with the external monitors because there have been threads going on since a long time about how just connecting an external display leads to heating and FAN noise for the MacBook Pro and the graphics card pulls in very high watt even without performing any intensive tasks.

  • @speecher1959
    @speecher1959 4 роки тому +1

    Well, darn! I purchased the 15" at the end of last year because my my 13" 2010 MacBook Pro could not keep up with my photo processing. Fortunately, I've had no complaints about the 15", and here's hoping!

  • @geolaizola
    @geolaizola 4 роки тому

    Hey man! thanks for your video. Btw where did you got that wallpaper?

  • @BernieMittens
    @BernieMittens 3 роки тому

    How is it as far as the large track pad? Does it interfere with typing? Also how is heat sync?

  • @spunicunifait2697
    @spunicunifait2697 4 роки тому

    I always preferred matte screens over glossy. How is the antiglare coating on this new one?

  • @Lucalaurin
    @Lucalaurin 4 роки тому

    guys I'm not sure if the woofers are doing anything about each others vibration,
    any info on that?

  • @linny286
    @linny286 3 роки тому

    Are you talking about the MBP 2018 model having issues, and if so which one?

  • @DarioPensabene
    @DarioPensabene 4 роки тому

    Would you get this or the new 2020 MBP?

  • @GarrettWease
    @GarrettWease 4 роки тому +1

    I’d love to ditch my 2017 15” for this lol. Great review by Dieter as always.

  • @LionsinofStraight
    @LionsinofStraight 4 роки тому +37

    MacBook Pro: The product that should be announced in The September event😔

  • @shareen918
    @shareen918 4 роки тому +1

    7:35 no matter how i turn my iphone its stereo Speakers just dont sync according to the video.

  • @AriIsenberg
    @AriIsenberg 4 роки тому

    Great review! So... do I get this 16" or wait until next March(?) for the 14"? :)

  • @arttuvanninen2372
    @arttuvanninen2372 4 роки тому

    Theses Verge reviews are nowdays my favorite ones!

  • @greliusz
    @greliusz 4 роки тому

    i have question: is it possible to expand for the future? Ram? Battery? Are soldered?

  • @theoriginalonion7545
    @theoriginalonion7545 4 роки тому

    Very cool thank you

  • @littleacorn6385
    @littleacorn6385 4 роки тому

    I am new to Apple , but I love the Tool bar” I use it all the time!

  • @nithinravi4401
    @nithinravi4401 4 роки тому

    Good review !!

  • @halo12345678ful
    @halo12345678ful 2 роки тому +4

    “ it’s not going anywhere “ aged like milk

  • @nikicampos
    @nikicampos 4 роки тому

    Hi, what's the brand and model of the Apple Watch band you are using, thanks!

  • @unreliablenarrator6649
    @unreliablenarrator6649 4 роки тому +2

    I love the Touch Bar and it's very useful if you take the time to retrain yourself. Most people don't use most features so I'm not surprised a majority of people aren't motivated to break old habits to learn the usefulness of Touch Bar verses control keys.

  • @MysteriousBreeze
    @MysteriousBreeze 2 роки тому

    Does the A2141 model support external 5k monitor using 2 DP cables ? Thanks guys

  • @jasonbaskerville6542
    @jasonbaskerville6542 4 роки тому

    How's the touch screen?

  • @shadda
    @shadda 4 роки тому

    I just wish they could toss in some USB type A ports and an SD card slot. It's so frustrating having to cart around dongles, and dongles for my dongles, every where I go. My mid 2015 15" retina, which I still use for most things, is so much easier to just sit down with because it has all those things. I can go from my camera to SD card to Capture One Pro in about 5 seconds and be editing in no time. No hunting down my bag, looking for the dongle, figuring out if its upside down or not...grrr.

  • @alvzcizzler
    @alvzcizzler 4 роки тому +1

    Hopefully they will improve the webcam since they improved the mics and they add FaceID.

  • @rupeshmalla3756
    @rupeshmalla3756 4 роки тому

    What about .. heating ..is it heating as before model ?

  • @masbass1011
    @masbass1011 4 роки тому

    Sounds nice. Why is it that no one mentions the camera on Macbook Pros?

  • @RashmiRanjanJena94
    @RashmiRanjanJena94 4 роки тому +22

    The intro sums up apple for 2019

  • @albertl2452
    @albertl2452 4 роки тому

    Hey could you tell me where you get your glass frame? Thanks.

  • @gerryslater2339
    @gerryslater2339 2 роки тому

    After having a 2012 MacBook Air 13" & a 27" IMac Desktop that's been a real pain to use, so slow and the screen brightness had gone in the bottom right hand corner, which can be fixed but isn't easy. So for a great price of 1535 Euros I decided to ditch the IMac and 13" MacBook Air and go for the 16" MacBook Pro now that I'm retired and more static in my movements after Euro travel for 35 years, I was a little sceptical having seen the newer Pro's with the latest M1 processors, however watching this great review (many thanks) I am very pleased with my decision with what my needs now are, big enough as a Desktop and good enough to travel with even if a little heavy!

  • @marksahlgreen9584
    @marksahlgreen9584 4 роки тому

    Getting mine monday after my Surface Book 2 crapped out on me. Looking forward to it

  • @Log1cTech
    @Log1cTech 4 роки тому

    great review dieter

  • @timergent
    @timergent 4 роки тому

    anyone can tell startup boot time for 16" model? is it better or worse than 13" or 15" ?

  • @nicolas.pascal
    @nicolas.pascal 4 роки тому

    The inverted T arrow keys, is a step back. The previous layout was more uniformed and just made sense.

  • @mtiphotography
    @mtiphotography 3 роки тому

    I love my fully spec'd MacBook Pro 16". Yes it does get hot, but honestly, I don't use it on my lap. It's on a stand. Speakers are outstanding and I came from a 15" 2015 MacBook Pro and it's identical in size and thickness.

  • @honey4xi
    @honey4xi 4 роки тому +2

    Has "MacOS Catalina Has Major Problems On MacBook Pro" fixed yet due to new Music app instead of iTunes for many dj apps and dj controllers?

  • @GordonChaffin
    @GordonChaffin 4 роки тому

    That internal mic is actually pretty good! It's still hollow, but better than the other internal mics with which you compare. I'd say it's on par with or better than the in-wire mic from the standard Apple wired headphones. Most people in that use case of public space or VoIP call/video conference use that earbud/mic combo thingie. If you had a small room to yourself, the internal mic would be fine.

  • @beardfootofficial
    @beardfootofficial 4 роки тому

    had mine for a week and pretty stoked...Faster than my 5k iMac that we use to edit 8k RED footage...Slightly faster. but still. Plus whoever the dude is that came up with the bettertouch bar app is my hero.

  • @StianBerntsen
    @StianBerntsen 4 роки тому

    But the speakers do have a big issue with a popping sound when skipping and pausing in various programs

  • @jisaza2198
    @jisaza2198 4 роки тому

    0:09 Just impressed that they still have their essential phone USB-C Cable

  • @mikeclose6431
    @mikeclose6431 4 роки тому

    What's it like for gaming?

  • @brianjones8152
    @brianjones8152 4 роки тому +2

    Yes I Know this Mac Book Pro 16in is for me,. about to trade in a late 2013 Mac Book pro which has been great.